Debunking The Top 40 Anti-LGBTQ Arguments
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
1:17 Too Young To Know Yet
2:08 It’s A Choice
2:59 It’s A Sin
4:21 Falling In Love is a Necessity
4:45 Being Trans Is Disrespecting God
5:19 Bisexual For Attention
5:52 Only Attracted to One Person
6:30 Being Lesbian Isn’t Real
6:54 Lesbian Is A Political Movement
7:50 Lesbians Are Just Angry At Men
8:33 You Are Born The Gender You Are
8:56 It’s Just A Phase
9:39 Being Non-Binary Isn’t Real
10:13 You Just Haven’t Found The Right Person
11:00 Pansexual Makes Us Look Bad
11:43 You’re A Monster if You’re Trans
12:27 You Were Just Abused As A Child
13:19 You Just Need A Therapist
13:51 Why Do You Want To Show It Off?
14:24 God Hates You
15:07 We Just Want Attention
15:48 I’ll Just Keep Deadnaming You
16:48 We Don’t Count
17:43 How Can You Change?
18:34 There Are Too Many Genders Now
19:05 You’ll Figure It Out In A Few Years
19:29 Demi Isn’t Real Because You’re Not Murdered
20:04 You’re A Coward For Being Ace
20:39 Bisexuals Should Pick A Side
21:15 I Just Don’t Agree With It
21:45 Trans Is A Mental Illness
22:28 Poly Is Just An Excuse to Cheat
23:23 We Just Want To Corrupt Children
24:00 Just Don’t Be LGBTQ In Public
25:08 Being Bisexual Is Just Desperate
25:35 It Wasn’t Like This When I Grew Up
26:08 Being LGBTQ Is Unnatural
26:26 Two Men Can’t Have Children
27:09 Why Should We Accept You?
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My response to LEVITICUS is always, So I guess women are exempt then...LOL....and there always clueless on how to move forward with their arguement.
I overheard this convo between two girls at my school:
girl 1: You're too young to know if you're a lesbian! You cant be, you're only 14.
girl 2: you're 14 too!
girl 1: so?
girl 2: then you're too young to know you're straight.
Perfect comeback
thats just awesome
HOLY GET WRECK LMAO
LETTTS GOOO you give that kid a high five they deserve it not JUST because its good comeback but because standing up for your self is hard Even more so in school where you can be trapped in the same place with the same people for 8 hours all week
HAHA GET REKT
I’m a white hispanic lesbian, and my friend at work is a black bisexual woman. I never got told “you should pick a side” when I formerly identified as bisexual. But she told me about the times her father would tell her that. I felt quite bad for her. Just because it doesn’t happen to you, doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen to other people.
"pick a side"
both are hot shut up
@@teresedaigle7336 imagine telling someone to choose just one flavor of ice cream I can’t understand
ngl i thought this was a "ThIs NeVeR hApPeNeD tO mE sO iT dOeSnT eXiSt" comment in the ifrst half
Hey, I’m from South America, and I never saw someone from here using “Hispanic” unironically. Are you from the US? If you are wtf it means to be “Hispanic”?
@@zeroeu5510 Maybe she is from Spain?
"The more homophobic or hateful a person is, the lower the person's overall intelligence."
This...does put a smile on my face.
There are some arguments that malice is simply stupidity in a different form. Not that they are true, but it's funny to think about it that way.
@@Ali-cya So true.
I read this as it was said
This was one of the wheeze “OoOoOoooooh” moments, pure gold
@@dannyneufeld3364 Yeah sorry thought you were a no life who stays up all night.
Alternate title: Professor Pride tears apart heteronormativity for 28 minutes.
Shreds heteronormativity with a minigun.
@@AmyraCarter the gay gun
@@social_avocado the Gay-tling gun
@@BestBetterBestest yooooooooooo gay fist bump*
Thats just an alternate title for the whole channel, lol
I don't understand the "it's just a phase", even if it was why wouldn't you support that person no matter what? You loved them for them. They didn't change, other than a bit more free and happy, your idea of them changed. Love unconditionally means just that
Yea. It's so stupid how so many people, especially parents, think this. My parents always tell my trans friend that being LGBTQ+ is just the goth phase of today, and it's such an ignorant thing to say.
Yeah, I don't how many times I heard that from my biphobic, homophobic, probably transphobic, father. I discovered I was bi and polyamorous when I was in junior college, and I still identify as such, though I might also be demi and pan, though I prefer the bi colors, and I am in my mid 30s now. So, no dad it is not a phase, and misquote about gay people is incorrect and says nothing about women, so god does exist, then they love me, and I am who I am meant to be. So there. I don't know how many times I have argued about that, but it always falls on deaf ears, because "Lesbians are immature and don't know the difference between friendship and romantic or sexual attraction, and gay men are just lazy, because they are more familiar with their own organs". This is of course flat out wrong, and even though I am out to him as bisexual, he just doesn't accept it. And it hurts. Though to be fair, he is in his mid 70s and was raised Catholic and is still Catholic, though he claims to be as staunch as other Catholics. So, yeah. I don't know if I'll ever get through to him. At my partner accepts me as bi and poly, although he is monogamous, so I am in an monogamous relationship with him. Which, I amok with, pretty much. And my friends accept me for who I am too. Also, some older adults who I trust. And my therapist. So I at least have that support system.
Supposedly humans have been given this phenomenon FREE WILL which potentially can lean towards making decisions to not care about someone SAD.
I'm non binary
The most used argument against my gender identity is "don’t worry honey, it’s just a phase you’ll grow out of!"
if it is just a phase, why has it been going on since I was seven?
@@moonieistired7263 not a phase, it's who you are. I'm so sorry but be proud that you know yourself. Many people go through their whole lives not knowing who they truly are.
When someone tells you that being into someone of the same gender is a choice, tell them to start being with someone of the same gender then. If it's supposedly that easy of a choice then they shouldn't have any problems, right?
Remember, you're all valid. Don't let others take away who you are!
My question would be when was it they decided to be straight? It's a choice so they should be able to remember when they made it.
@@juniorqindes8335 how?
@@barrylangille3523 Yea if being gay is a choice, being straight is a choice too in their logic. All are sexualities nonetheless, and obviously, most conservatives believe that being straight is normal.
@@coughcouf it's ony a choice if it's not what they want it to be.
I could make that choice, but I choose not to lol
I stopped celebrating Christmas with my family because of all the drama. Once you're an adult you can make your own choices. You shouldn't have to do something you hate if it's not necessary just because it's 'Tradition'
Glad you broke free of a tradition that was more harm than good for you. I know it's not always easy.
When my family and I left the church Christmas felt like it had lost something. But then we substituted going to church with packing the car with family or friends and driving around looking at Christmas lights. After a few Christmases this became a tradition.
Get rid of old traditions that aren't healthy and have fun creating new ones.
@Sportacus ah yes because people love being told They are worthless and that they are going to go to hell and that god hates them and that they aren't valid, yes definitely enjoyable that yes people chose to be treated poorly :)
@Sportacus in that case so is being straight but don't you worry I don't judge you for your choice and I'm pretty sure God doesn't either. She's loving and will accept your straightness.
Same here, buddy! My mother is the only member of my family that I still talk to for this exact reason!
@Sportacus
Oh no no buddy, I did not choose to be gay. The gay choose to be me.
people really be like "ok bro but gays can't have children together"
dude, that's like a good thing for all the currently unadopted kids lmao
lmao fr
"Sperm Banks" Have entered the chat.
"Man shall not sleep with boy" I heard that quote once and it was debunked as referring to p--ophilia not homosexuality
@Rhys Higgon Actually, that's specific to the highly edited version of the Bible. The original text used a term that is no longer in use, so can't be directly translated, but pretty consistently refered to rape.
As for the "Man shall not lie with man line" it is in the Bible, but it's noted by people who are familiar with Hebrew to be a very literal translation, like translating someone described as cool(as in awesome) in English, as being someone cool(as in temperature) in another. Technically, it can be translated like that, but it really misses the point.
In this case, it uses feminine prounouns for the second person in the statement, as well as using a term which roughly means that it is not ritually allowed. The first part implies that this may not be referring to a man, but something else. The most common interpretation of this is "boy" or "child" (the language is notoriously gendered) but other interpretations have it being a place(long story short, women's beds were considered "their space" during those times and defiling it was considered incredibly disrespectful).
Even if it were an adult man referred in that line, the "Ritually not allowed" part implies that it is specifically not allowed *during rituals*. This is notable because the Bible was written around the time of the Ancient Greeks, who were well known for having dubiously consensual sex rituals between priests and worshippers to do things like bless crops or earn the Greek gods favour.
Making it clear that He does not wish for such rituals given the circumstances makes perfect sense given that context, especially if an Ancient Greek person was to convert to Christianity.
Exactly! And the thing that irks me, is people rely on heavily-translated versions of the Bible, when they SHOULD be looking towards the original Hebrew and Greek languages instead of constantly-revised versions that miss the mark. Some words in the original languages either have a perfect translation, lack a cohesive translation, or have no translation at all; this then confuses and/or brainwashes believers into thinking that the Bible actually DOES say this verse or that verse.
I heard it on a pm seymour video from the "God creates stuff" video
Idk, I heard that it being about children and not grown men is a rather modern interpretation, while in the past people claimed that it referred to homosexuality. The same idea can be seen in other bible translations. Which means, a lot of people would have to make the same mistake.
Either way, it shouldn't matter. Bible was written a long time ago by people with outdated (and very bigoted) views on sexuality and gender. That's why pointing at it as a proof of any point (like, homosexuality being immoral) is ridiculous. Our society is way more advanced now then it was back then, and basing your worldview on an ancient book is beyond stupid.
@@ghurcbghurcb The thing is, the Jewish community, who do in fact base their lives on the Old Testament,. actively support LGBT+ rights. Again, while the exact interpretation of that line is uncertain, it is very certain it wasn't talking about gay relationships.
'you're too young to know' 'falling in love is a necessity' 'being non binary isn't real' 'you're just a coward if you're ace'
as a 13 year old aroace enby, i needed that
edit: hey, anyone know about that mushroom with over twenty thousand genders? that's the being i aspire to become
Same
Um, maybe don't mention your age online? Creeps will try to track you down, and the internet isn't private.
I'm glad your happy, and that this video validated you, but I'm worried for your safety.
You're a what?
@@DezuFuck Aromantic (no romantic attraction), asexual (no sexual attraction), non-binary (doesn't match the gender binary, can be umbrella term itself)
oh my god that edit is such a moooooood
My mother refuses to believe I'm nonbinary because, according to her "it's just a trend". No matter how much I try to show her proofs of the existence of nonbinary people all over the world for thousands of years, she always shuts down the conversation and refuses to listen. I'm tired of fighting with her for years, so I gave up. At least I have very supportive friends and a wonderful accepting partner, so not all hope is lost!
I wouldn’t listen rituerv
This happens because a lot of times parents have expectations for who we will grow up to be. Of course, we’re not going to completely be what our parents expect from us. But when that happens, sometimes it can be scary for them to see you going on a different path. They have been doing things their way all their whole life, and because of that, they don’t know if you can still have a great life if you do things differently. (This applies to everything such as religion, occupation, even having different personalities. Not just LGBTQ+)
I think for now it is important for you to know that you are allowed to be yourself and you don’t need your parents for that. When you’re stronger, you can learn to accept what they believe and still love them for who they are. Perhaps if you’re willing to meet them halfway, someday they will understand. But don’t give up on them now! Because then you will never know. Good luck either way.
I'm happy you have some supportive people in your life!
Yeah it ain't a trend, I have one non-binary friend and they are still non-binary after years of knowing and one thing that has grinded my gears and still does is when another one of my friends siblings thought it was a trend and decided to be "gay, straight,bisexual,trans and non-binary". Yeah I'm still quite annoyed about the fact they basically offended our community by thinking it was a trend
If I remember correctly, the POPE said that "God made you gay for a reason. And God loves you no matter what."
Yeah that's why I like Pope Francis
Wait, Pope Francis has said that before? Oh my gosh that puts a huge smile on my face.
@@eggstertries If I remember correctly. Or he said something super similar to that
Pope Francis is awesome
Bro I didn't know about this but I love that
Can i just thank this guy for being inclusive to all the LGBT+ community? So often when people talk about the community, they only talk about being gay or lesbian, and sometimes bisexual, and they completely forget about everyone else. Once, when I went to a pride meetup at my school, everyone there was so shocked to find out I was transgender, because they just assumed that it would be all gay people.
I went to a LGBTQ+ meeting at school. My cishet cousin showed up to support me. I didn’t know how much he cared about me until that day
🏳️🌈✊ Support for bisexuals and trans people. No erasure!
Honestly, the amount of people that have a hard time understanding how your sexual preference does not correlate directly with your sexual identity is also quite big from my personal experience.
How many times I haven't heard: "Huh, but, you want to become a woman right?" upon telling people that I think I like women and having to explain that being transgender doesn't automatically mean that sexual preferences being non-straight stops being a thing.
I'm not religious, but I like imagining that god makes people in batches like cookies and when they make trans people it's just like:
"Alright, just a PINCH of testosterone for a working girl bo-"
*"uh oh"*
**God trying to take off the testosterone crumbs with his fingers and accidentally pushes more estrogen off the cookie**
*"UH OH UH OH!!!!!!"*
“It’s fine they’ll get it out themself 😀”
I've heard people argue that they do it on purpose, for the same reason that they made wheat instead of bread and grapes instead of wine, which they argue was done to allow for humanity to join in the fun of creating or something like that. Basically, they made some things, including some people, incomplete, so that humans could complete it, like a parent who does 99% of a puzzle so that their kid can put the last few pieces in.
I butchered the metaphor, but hopefully I got the idea across.
LMBOO
as a trans (non-binary) Catholic, I feel tht
Btw, it's God
And irl, God would be like:
OOP- eh it's fine, I have a plan for tht
@@Missingno_Miner I like this one
“Just a phase” Okay? Even if it is, which it most likely isn’t, what does it matter? If someone wanted to identify as a flying chicken in a tutu, who is anyone to stop them?
That’s an amazing idea. I should be a flying chicken in a tutu. Thank you fellow ace
@@murderoftrees Of course, fellow flying chicken in a tutu
well obviously we are also dragons
@@prismpawsstudios5154 if you want to be, then you go dragon
@@AlexandraTheBlonde13 get it ig
hold on
I think you definitely can cheat in a poly relationship
if your partners aren't aware of this person you're getting with behind all of their backs, I think I'd call that cheating
But the point still stands that being in a poly relationship does not excuse cheating inherently
It's only a polyrelationship if everybody in the relationship knows and consents with it. If there is one person they did not know about, that's cheating.
@@superieur11407 thats what I thought. Thank you for confirming
Yes as a poly person, I haven’t actually dated anyone :’) but I do think that it’s cheating if both people,e aren’t aware and consenting, even if they know you are poly
Yes this is true. I was in a relationship and the both of us were fine with being in a poly relationship but out of nowhere my partner told me they were dating another person at the same time when I didn’t previously know. Apparently they thought since we were both fine with it, it would be okay but.. it was basically cheating. I talked to them about it and we ended up breaking up.
That honestly really depends on if you're in an open or closed poly relationship - as someone who's poly and currently in a closed relationship with quite a few people. You just need to establish whether it's okay to do that at the start of your relationship for mental health reasons.
It could definitely be considered cheating if the person in question is actively hiding their new relationship from the others, but it is how it is.
don't get depressed if you can't convince these people they're wrong. It's hard to win a argument with a genius, but it's impossible to win one with an idiot.
That's true. If someone disagrees with you, they are an idiot.
That quote totally isn't used by every group known to man
@@snkybrki Oh for the love of god. I'm calling homophopes idiots! How do you have a problem with that?
@@ianschmutzler8177 It's hilarious because homophobes use that exact same quote against the LGBT community. It's meaningless, just pure ego stoking.
@@snkybrki okay, well I'm sorry if it came of like that.
@@ianschmutzler8177 It's alright, you didn't know any better.
“Two men can’t have children”
Yep, and neither can a straight couple when one or both of them is infertile.
“But they can adopt!”
EXACTLY SO CAN TWO MEN 😭
Thank you for this. When I was about five years old (in the very early 70s), my doctor, back then, got right in my face and told me that "he would personally see to to it, that I went into the lunatic asylum, if I persisted on wanting things of and to be the opposite gender", he also told my mum and dad to "sp**k, my rear-end, until I couldn't sit down for a week", if I showed any signs of doing it again.
Thankfully, mum and dad didn't listen, but his threat of the lunatic asylum stayed with me and depression thoughts of ending it all took over.
I am now so grateful, that my doctors and nurses are so understanding and helping me through my transition and the years of torment I have been through.
Weeb
@@DezuFuck Your the one who has a anime pfp
Holy shit…that’s horrible…that doc is an asshole for sure
Glad ya are getting better now :)
That’s one asshole of a doctor. Is he still alive now?
@@staydetermined6717 Thank you.
Whenever you're about to say something, try reversing the roles to see if it sounds ridiculous or offensive first.
If it does, then the initial thought is the same way.
Yeah, this method really works. I really recommend it for statements from Radfems and misogynists to expose their sexism.
"you're straight? That's disgusting. God doesn't like straight people. Being straight is a choice"
Not like it works 100% of the times in general, but its still valid most of the times
Idk how
Shut up James Charles alt
"You just haven't found the right person." As someone who is Asexual, this one has always pissed me off. But then I remember an amazing rebuttal I once heard that always makes me laugh. "Ever screw a cactus? No? Well, maybe you just haven't found the right one."
🤨 📸
that is funny
That’s amazing
I’m Aromantic and almost everyone is convinced I’m just a super late bloomer but I know it’s not gonna happen ;-;
That's going on my bucket list.
This video insulted the homophobic community and the government in one go
Yeah, we have a habit of showing the government how to do their jobs while showing how little homophobes are educated. lol
@@PoweredByRainbows ohhhh got them
@@PoweredByRainbows I mean with the ridiculusness of some of those arguments, a well educated kid could probably be smarter than those homophobes (who are usually older people claiming to be smarter becuase of their age) who make the arguments
How would it insult itself?
You know what’s really sad? I get a lot of the same “arguments” about me being autistic…
So not only do I have to endure these questions at the dinner table for being LGBTQ+, but also for being neurodivergent. We just can’t get a break can we?
"Oh, you're autistic? It's just a phase"
@@ProvidenceMTF got "you'll grow out of it" when I described a learning disability some years ago.... I still got it
It’s kinda sad how so many people pretend to have autism so actually autistic people are not treated properly. Damn you tiktok and Twitter
@@stinkybing23423r It’s a matter of time before someone comments on this thread saying I’m not actually autistic. It happens every time
@@stinkybing23423r I... don't think that is the major case of this... though
12:18 for every trans person Reading this, answer them with "then fear me if i am a Monster"
Just gonna leave this here
They do fear you (or maybe they're just scared of themselves?), that's why they are so hateful. Keep your heads up kings, queens and non-binary rulers ❤️
"everyone liked that"
@Daniel Chrząszcz ima start calling my friend “non-binary ruler” now lol
FEAR ME
Fear me b*tch
I want to add something to the whole religion thing. My mom uses this a lot when defending lgbtq people from religious people hating them which is really cool.
But basically there’s a story in the Bible where this woman was gonna get stoned from adultery. God stepped in and said whoever in the group that had never sinned may throw the first stone. None of them could because they all had sinned in one way or another.
My mom always says that’s why god gets to judge people, because he is only one free of sin. So religious people have no right to say lgbtq are sinners because they don’t have the right to pass judgement on others
I’m not religious by any means, but I do appreciate the fact that my mother uses religion as a defense for lgbtq people, instead of using it to tear them down
Your mother is awesome
That bible story can not be used in this way as the woman in question did actually realize that she had sinned. She did not push for things that would lead people to sin, as in, she did not see sin as a good. You can use this when it is a sinner in question, yet you can't use this against a person which defines himself as an enemy to Christ.
@@shamusson can you not ruin a good story please? :|
best mom
@@shamusson The thing is, when people like to use this argument, they typically also like to forget that the people trying to use Biblical logic (or all other religious books that in more or less similar circumstances tell a similar story) for reasoning against LGBTQI+ people say that "they are very strict Christians", and fail to know that at least in the Old Testament, it was mentioned that wearing clothes of mixed fabric is a sin, and lots, and lots of smaller things that are sinful.
People typically don't realise that if they want to argue that someone is sinful for being gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender, queer or intersex (the last one maybe even being the absolute most stupid of them all given that it's literally how someone was born and at times is actually physically visible), they themselves have committed sins so much without realising it.
So realising that you've sinned doesn't immediately make it ok to judge someone, because from what I recall about that passage it's still "He who is without sin shall throw the first stone", and since when following the Bible strictly there's so much things that would make you act sinful, the idea that someone can not be stoned just for realizing he or she has sinned still holds up.
It's almost coming down to the "Treat others like you yourself would like to get treated".
I'm asexual. And my parents say "I'm too young." I find it stupid.
Also I had a asexual pride flag as my what'sapp profile picture and my parents forced me to change it, and said I'm only "being asexual to fit in.
But seriously, I don't fit in anywhere. And why would you want to when everyone treats you like you don't exist?
It’s true you don’t exist
@⸙ ¦ Moth ❞ I agree
Speaking as a fellow ace, we exist. Would you like some garlic bread?
Considering how poorly the LGBTQ+ community often treats asexual people, yeah it has nothing to do with fitting in.
I've always hated the idea that you can be "too young" to know your orientation unless it's straight. It's ridiculous.
@@theultimatenerd9825 as an acespec, I'll make them cake to go with it :)
OMG! I didn’t know you were Demi! So happy to see such a great RUclipsr is a fellow ace spec person : )
Edit: I’m not Demi, just ace but I’m glad that so many ace spec people have turned this comment thread into the most wholesome meme section ever.
I’m Demi too
@@rubysmolen5155 Demi is on the ace spectrum.
ACESPECS UNITE! WE SHALL CONQUER DENMARK, THEN THE EARTH!
@@rubysmolen5155 Awesome! We’re a big family : )
@@YouveBeenMegged WE HAVE DRAGONS
@@rawr1131 AND ENDLESS RATIONS OF CAKE AND GARLIC BREAD
WE SHALL BE VICTORIOUS
"Being non-binary isn't real"
damn *vaporizes*
Unperson'd
"Ugggh... Mr. Stark, I don't feel so good." *body turns into a bunch of bees, and then disintegrates*
Me, demi-boy: (disintegrates partially)
Maybe they confused you with computer
@@kami761 what
y'know i'm strait and cisgendered but i don't understand why people can't just accept lgbtq people? Its just unnecessary hatred. You can't choose to be lgbtq but you can choose to accept things you don't understand.
Edit: I'm not against anyone but generally mean people.
Agreed 👍
Also love the ralsei pfp^^
@@VICKYVALENTINE811 thx
@@VICKYVALENTINE811 ralsei supremacy
"You just haven't met the right person yet" already has an easy counter: "you just haven't met the right man/woman (whichever opposes their heterosexuality) yet"
I'm ten, and I recently came out as lesbian to my family. I truly feel like I've always known it, but I've lived for years in denial.
I'm happy for you, but kid, don't just reveal your age online.
You are certainly an intelligent person, but groomers are always looking out for easy targets.
Your age, your name, your address, people can track you by those things. Keep it secret, never share it or those guys will use it against you.
Please, stay safe.
Okay the other guy is right, don't reveal your age online. If anyone asks, don't respond. Thats a major red flag. Please be careful.
Congrats on coming out! Wish you the best!!
Oh but yeah congrats on coming out to your family!!!!
please dont say your 10 on the internet
there are tons of shitty people out here that will try to groom you
stay safe
If Lesbians are that way because we hate men then i'd really love for someone to explain why so many of my friends are men, why i'm so close with my brother, and why i tried being in relationships with men i genuinely loved as friends only to realise it just felt like a façade and broke it off with no fault on their part.
My dad is CONVINCED trans people only started existing 20 years ago. I don’t know if I want to laugh or cry
I don’t think your dad ever did much research. There was a Roman emperor named Elagabalus who was transgender, there was trans people in the civil war that were widely accepted by other soldiers, and trans people in many other time periods. I think your dad needs to learn what a history book is and start using it before saying something only existed for 20 years.
@@PoweredByRainbows Oh trust me, I told him all that and showed him historical testimonies and portraits of trans people. His reply? "But they didn't get any surgery"
Seriously, he's a teacher too.
@@froufroudeluxe people got surgeries before 20 years ago. there's that danish painter I don't remember the name of... and many trans men had double mastectomies
@@gardencarcassYup I told him about Lili Elbe
one I always hear is that
"You're just trying to stand out from your siblings".
I'm the only boy of 4 kids and the only to my knowledge LGBT member.
While both my two oldest sisters are maybe bi-curious as one of them has had girlfriends in the past and the other has both a imaginary celebrity husband and wife.
My parents don't know I'm bisexual but my dad didn't really approve of my sister's girlfriends.
Even though one of them lived with us for 2 months.
I also always hear that one in 4 kids are LGBT.
I'm the fourth kid and the only male I happen to be bisexual.
My brother is second born and is bisexual ... I'm youngest and am Bi/Pan .... but my brother is the most anti-LGBTQ+ I ever met while claiming to be part of the community. smh
It's the opposite in my home our brother is the only one who shares our mother's homophobic and transphobic views while
we're all questioning.
My grandmother has 4 biological grandchildren and all of us are LGBT 😳
1 in 4 kids is LGBTQ?
I have 4 lil cousins and my third youngest one may be trans but idk we'll see
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It's just a common thing I hear.
I have 4 uncles on my dad's side.
All 4 of them including my aunt and my dad are straight so idk there isn't a lot of truth to this.
But one of my uncle's daughter is a lesbian and that's his only kid.
My aunt's 3 kids are Straight I don't know about my other cousins.
I guess the bigger the family the higher chances of someone being LGBT.
If have Idk 10 kids.
There's a very high chance at least one of them will end up LGBT.
There's also a chance all of them will but the more children in the family the more it is mathematically possible to be LGBT.
If someone had like 30+ kids
I don't think everyone of them would end up straight cis.
"mom im bi"
"its just a phase"
_4 years later_
"mom im lesbian"
no. this isnt how youre supposed to play the game.
get unheteronormative'd
“I’m asexual”
“No you’re not, you just haven’t found the right person yet!”
“Are you a straight man?”
“Yes.”
“You just haven’t found the right man yet.”
I’m an aro/ace and all my family members say “I said I never wanted to get married, but here I am. You’ll grow out of this.” My family isn’t anti-LGBTQ+, they just simply don’t understand my my sexuality correctly. I haven’t came out yet, but I’ve been giving a lot of hints to them. Also some family members think I’m a lesbian or pansexual TvT.
Just know a random person online supports you :)
And judging by the likes at least 14 more people do too
Omg my parents say that alll the time. I’m not ace, but knowing that some parents actually believe that irks the hell out of me :/
Luckily your parents decided to get married and have you cuz otherwise you wouldn’t exist. Praise that most of you won’t have children
@@zeon_trl1326 most children will curse their parents being born in the future for the evils the U.S. corporate state has enforced around the world using neoliberal capitalism. So not having many children is a net good.
Pollution, extreme weather, scarcity of resources, wars, etc... will all render humanity almost unrecoverable within the next century as a result of our current capitalist and hierarchical power structure.
Fallacy #17
If you LGBTQ+ you were abused
Me, a Pansexual He/Him, They/Them who had the best parents EVER: ………
OMG SAME. I was raised literally the opposite of whatever the homophobes could come up with for gay children. I (AMAB) was very close with my father and I was very boyish as a child, liked doing “boy things” and disliked being “girly” as all boys did as toddlers. Then I came out as bi. Fun…
i literally have super ally parents and im lgbt+ :-D
Anyone reading this: You’re awesome! And I’m so proud of you for being who you are! You’re amazing! 🏳️🌈
Edit: All of the homophobic people here, not talking about you.
Aw thank you. You are amazing. Thanks so much for that. That cheered me up so much! 👍
thx dude
@@taleseylad1249 No problem! Also, nice profile pic! It’s nice to see another Shadows of Valentia fan!
Me, a CIS white straight male who just wants to be a good ally: awe shucks thanks. you're more amazing!
Ok
For the third argument: "Being gay is a sin."
Telling them it's a mishap in translation might not work (see intro), so using their own argument against them might be better; play their game, let them dig their hole.
Ask them to cite the (faulty) scripture. Very few actually can, and if they won't: cite it for them. Show them you know what you're talking about. The key here is to understand Leviticus.
It has many commandments. To state a few:
- The stranger who dwells among you shall be to you as one born among you, and you shall love him as yourself. (Referring to foreigners- including refugees.)
- Every animal that has a split hoof not completely divided or that does not chew cud is unclean for you; whoever touches [the carcass of] any of them will be unclean. (This includes most pets and certain types of leather.)
Others things you can't do include:
- Eating fat and blood
- Eating - or touching the carcass of - any seafood without fins or scales
- Eating - or touching the carcass of - flying insects with four legs, unless those legs are jointed
- Going to church within 33 days after giving birth to a boy
- Going to church within 66 days after giving birth to a girl
- Mixing fabrics in clothing
- Shaving around the edges of your head
- Cut the edges of your beard
- Not standing in the presence of the elderly
I definitely think the eating and touching rules are great to work with. No pig, no rabbit- sure the Bible is fine with it, but Leviticus is not. I could go on and on about all these amendments because they're great to work with.
@Andrei Salvaleon Not the homophobes, it seems.
I never got the argument “it’s a choice”. It’s sad but people get bullied, abused and sometimes even killed just for the fact that they’re part of the LGBT community so why would people choose to be LGBT
Ohh that’s a good point. We need more people like you in the world
Honestly, even if being lgbt was sometimes a “phase,” it shouldn’t matter at all. I think everyone should at least explore their gender and sexuality because they can find out a lot more about themselves. I have a friend who thought she was bi for years, but she eventually realized that she was straight. She wasn’t faking it when she said she was bi, she just thought she was bi. And now she *knows* she’s straight. Isn’t that better than being unsure? She knows more about herself now, and she’s a lot more confident in her sexuality and relationships with men as a result.
Agreed, I thought I was trans for years before finally figuring out that I’m nonbinary and just lean far away from my assigned sex. Gender and sexuality are often described as a spectrum for good reason, just like all other aspects of human life it’s complex and varied - one queer person’s experiences will be vastly different from another. The whole idea of someone identifying as something for years and then figuring out that, say, “huh maybe I’m not gay, maybe I’m bi” is fine. You shouldn’t be invalidated for discovering yourself, no one should just be expected to know immediately.
My parents took my putting off hormone therapy as a sign I was wrong about who I was and they were right that I, in fact, was a girl all along. When, no, I just realised I don’t like to fit into any boxes and going straight to the other side may not make me happy either. I wanted to take more time to think and find who I was, but I still always knew deep down I’d never live comfortably as a woman or even being seen as one. It’s very complicated for me to deal with, wanting to stay somewhere in the middle while not bein effeminate at all, but it’s something I’m working on and thankfully found family in the form of friends are being far more supportive then direct family ever have been.
I’m glad your friend found herself, her journey is valid, no matter what!
Same thing with me thinking I was non-binary. I hope people don't make these mistakes.
Agreed, especially because swxual.fluidity is a real thing and some people's sexuality changes later in life.
One time I blurted out to someone who tried going down that route of reasoning with "Mullets where a phase....tribal-tattoo's were a phase...I don't see how those things disappearing from society are so different from someone struggling with their sexual identity or preference as an actual phase and either finding out they are straight or cis, or something else and/or trans."
The religion argument blows my mind tbh. Even if it was a sin how is that relevant? Do they think everyone automatically conforms to their religious beliefs? The fact they think that “I don’t believe god likes that” is a genuinely valid argument proves how foolish and hypocritical these people really are.
They whine and cry that WE chose feelings over facts and yet one of their most prominent arguments is “I don’t think god wants this”
Bruh
I mean، its written Pretty clearly that taking part in gay acts is wrong۔ at least in my religion۔ maybe you can look up the story of prophet Lut(pbuh)، its really interesting۔
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Like I said in my comment, I don’t care AT ALL what your religion tells you is okay and what isn’t, because I do not follow your religion.
Using religion as general argument is completely daft and arrogant as hell, the rest of the world does not conform to your own specific spiritual beliefs. Get over it.
honestly most christians say that God doesnt like homosexuals like that doesnt add up please 😭😭 if youre God's creation he created you gay, and if he loves everyone then gays too
+ there is nothing written about homosexuality in the original bible script so these people just be using religion as an excuse to be homophobic
"My god says you are a bad person!"
Well, I don't like your god.
Biphobes: Being bisexual is just desperate!
Bi people: See, being bisexual is liking men and women, being desperate is liking you.
LMAO 😂😂
Title: "Debunking The Top 40 Anti-LGBTQ Arguments"
Today I learned that there are 40 justifications for bigotry/ignorance against certain sexualities.
I found out I was trans when I was 11 and it makes me feel bad knowing that other people realized it at an early age
There's a yes-and-no. Ok, I'm non-binary (largely androgynous/femme-leaning gender-fluid, with some xeno tint) so my case may be different from yours.
But, like, I've been the same person since I was 5 years old. My Myspace tag-line (back when Myspace was a thing) was "I am me, as I will always be"...a mantra that is littered across journals and diaries I've had since elementary school.
The only thing that has really changed has been my ability to express who/what that "Me" is as my experiences and language expands.
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In a non-gender topic, for example, there's a "Letter to your Future Self" from my 3rd-grade self to myself after High-School Graduation. In it is a sheet/list of my favorite things, like an evaluation to determine how much you have changed. On that sheet are such categories as "Favorite Ice Cream". 3rd-grade Tony declared 'Vinila'...and I can say with absolute certainty that this answer is vanilla ONLY because 3rd-grade Tony didn't know that 'cookie dough' ice cream even existed.
On the topic of gender, I didn't know that "non-binary" (let alone specific types of non-binary identities) was even a thing until a handful of years ago when I was talking with a friend while I was (personally unaware) in "femme" mode. Before that day, I didn't even recognize that I had a "femme mode", just that these clothes/mannerisms in this aesthetic/mindset 'feel right today' or 'don't feel right today'. I was just me, as I am currently and will always be.
So that you didn't know or couldn't express that you were trans before you were 11 years old isn't something to be ashamed about since you found it out eventually and were able to share your truth.
I kind of knew at five I remember looking in the mirror and thinking I don't like being a girl but I don't want to be a boy either it took me until I was 11 to fully realise that
I was about 20 when my mom and I were painting the kitchen walls and I made an off hand comment like "sometimes I'd rather be a guy... but dating a guy tho."
I had completely forgotten about that moment until she mentioned it when I officially came out to her when I was 25. Now I identify as transmasc/nb/demiboy and like men.
I started finding out my trans identity when I was 12 - 13, mostly because of puberty. I remember thinking to myself that I just would 'skip it' 😂 It took me until I was 17 to fully accept myself. After years of trying things out and figuring myself out. I wish I figured out when I was 5, I was a mindless child. Although I do have a picture from that age in school of me wearing a dress that I chose for fancy dress (not like that means anything) but there were still signs before hitting puberty.
That "I knew when I was 5" really messed me up made me think I wasn't trans and denied it for years. It took me until meeting other trans people online to realise it.
I'm 13 and I'm only now experimenting and questioning my gender, don't worry.
I lived my whole life in the closet until the last few years. My morals and mindset were based on the straight conventions that I'd grown up with. Now I'm finding I can love more than one man at a time. My perceptions have changed a lot. I think I'm happier too.
i heard someone once say that bisexuals are confused, just not about their sexuality, they’re confused about taxes and stuff, and i loved that
The fact that I got a homophobic ad before the video makes me mad
What channel was the ad from? We can block certain advertisers on our channel for the future so no one else sees a homophobic ad.
@@PoweredByRainbows I forget but it was like cartoon characters on a business call and it was full of bs
i genuinely do not understand when people say "you're too young to know" like i literally have a 5 year old sister thats bi and has an imaginary girlfriend. if you're asking how did she found out about dating, girlfriends, boyfriends.. its from my parents, my straight parents just really likes talking about dating and relationships around their kids including me, i already had a crush at 4 years old because of that
and the bi part, i just said to her that a women dating another woman is okay, same goes with a man and another man. i haven't said terms like gay, homosexual, lesbian, bisexual, etc etc since it would be too much for her to handle and if she accidentally said it infront of our parents we would be in big trouble.
and finally, the imaginary girlfriend. like i genuinely don't know how she made this character up but like out of nowhere she just said "i has a girlfriend!" and back then i was just so confused like??? but she did say shes fake. but she's still going on and on about her girlfriend and how they would have kids and have a pet hedgehog, to this day. its just so adorable.
if you're wondering how i described lgbt terms to her heres some i have said to her:
lesbian: a girl that ONLY likes girls, no guys
gay/mlm: a guy that ONLY likes guys, no girls
bisexual: someone that likes guys and girls
pansexual: someone that likes everybody
non-binary: she would usually ask a me if a character is a girl or a boy, i would just say "no", its funny but atleast its true.
transgender: someone thats a boy but later turns into a girl, and vice versa.
i know some of these aren't really THAT accurate like non-binary people can still be lesbians or gay/mlm, and that bisexual people can like more than just a guy and a girl but it'll overwhelmed her and i don't want that. i just wanna teach her the more basic and simpler definitions.
aww thats so adorable!! :D
"Demi isn't real because you aren't being murdered" What the *Actual FUCK!*
The one that I hear a lot is "pansexuals are just bisexual." I feel like that's more common than some of these arguments, and I would have liked to see it covered, but it's fine that it wasn't.
Pans are ppl that like all genders with no preference, which is the unique trait of the pan ppl. While bi ppl can also like all genders, most of them have preferences to a certain gender, which is mostly either girls or guys.
@@coughcouf Finally, thanks for explaining simply. All my friend's explanations have just been confusing...
I keep seeing some people saying how pansexual is biphobic and transphobic and it's just really upsetting me because Im pansexual and felt invalid
@@kyghosty9545 Honestly, those people are just making bullcrap claims. If anything, I'd think it would be the opposite of transphobia. Your sexual/romantic orientation does not affect anybody else.
@@keenankersh7944 pansxeuality always tried to self as ,, more inclusive „ version of bisexuality. It mostly exists because people would see being bi as ,, tranphobic and too binary „
I get so much flack about being omnisexual on the internet, "WhY dONt You JusT bE BiSEXuAl"
bro I'm using a ✨synonym✨ that I like more
What exactly does omnisexual mean? Not trying to be rude, just genuine let wondering. It’s good to understand all the terminology.
@@bigpapamagoo8696 it means liking all gender but having a preference, i believe
@@farrahgomez1104 not exactly. omnisexuality means an attraction to all genders while also noticing the gender identities of the people who are attractive. it’s confused with pansexuality, which means an attraction that doesn’t notice gender identity at all.
@@kutubeg ohh okay, thank you!
I remember I had this sex ed teacher who was explaining how most relationships worked. Being asexual and not really knowing what that was yet at the time, I asked what it meant if you’d never had a crush on anyone before. I got some weird stares in class and my teacher basically said that I was just a late bloomer and that everyone who’s human will feel attraction at some point in their lives because it’s in our nature. This lead to a whole conversation about certain diseases and conditions that could lead to a lack of sexual attraction. That stuck with me for a pretty long time, and I was pretty convinced something was wrong with me up until a couple years ago. I’ve also been asked multiple times if I’m just afraid of being in a relationship, and how sad it was that I’d never have my own family (even though many ace people DO have families themselves, but many people will assume otherwise)
Asexual seems cool
Tbh I like the "You shall not lie with a man like you do with a woman" since I'm lesbian lol
its just against pan and bi people lol
Debating sending this to my dad so that he'll stop thinking of me as his straight daughter, and start accepting me as his gay son. I'm an atheist, and he keeps using his religion against me.
I would also like to note that when he was trying to convince me I wasn't trans, he said that there's no way I'm a boy cause I was too much a girly girl when I was younger, but I didn't like make up and dresses cause I wasn't a girly girl, but a tom boy.
Not sure if I'm FTM or genderfluid yet, but I know I'm not a cis girl. And I totally know I'm only attracted to the male gender (and all masculine aligning genders)
I’m in a similar situation as well wish you the best of life
Once at school, some guy was dressed as Jesus and saying that he would kill all the gays. I wanted to tell him that I’m lesbian and atheist, so he has no power over me
As a person who has overcome much learned homophobia and transphobia, I really appreciate this video, and I hope to use it irl to help the people around me change as well.
Thanks for making another great, educational and helpful video. As an Ally it will help me defend lgbtqia+ rights.
To anyone that needs to know this, you are very valid, you have the right to be happy, you are important, and very much loved. Chase your happiness without apology.
@@juniorqindes8335 I believe anyone has the right to mind their own business and not be bothered by others.
@Gravestone999 Thank you. I don't believe in spreading hate from hate. Everyone does deserve to be treated the same no matter who they love. And tbh it's Noone business
Thanks, mate
@@KMILLER1181 agreed!
Idk why but everytime i see a lgbtq ally i think about ww2...
Here's a tip for anyone who is having trouble knowing who you like or how you identify with gender. If you found a few labels, ex. I don't know if I'm gay or pan (or bi), so what I found that kinda helped is 1. Just waiting to see who you feel attraction too, then basing it off that and/or 2. Being both. There is no rule that says you can't be gay and bi, or nonbinary and trans. Just say you are whatever makes you happy! I understand some people may argue against being gay AND bi, but seriously, some people can't decide.
honestly i felt very confused on whether im trans or not because i felt like i have to be a certain way, but then weeks later i realized that trans is an umbrella term
so yeah that helped me find out im boyflux! (or honestly just a dude, i dont care XD)
@@rydotion omg same, when i was like 3 i wanted to be a boy BADLY, but like now i feel happy just being a she/they and being my biological gender (girl)
You can't be gay and bi as far as I know. As I understand, gay means you're only attracted to the same gender, while bi means you're attracted to both genders. You can't be both.
I mean you can't really be gay and bi both, since they mean 2 different things, but there's nothing wrong with not knowing yet, if you can't figure it out right away then that's fine
and there's nothing wrong with finding out you were wrong, so if you came out as bi but then realized you were actually gay then that's fine
(also kind of a nitpicky thing just thought i'd mention it, but the phrase "some people can't decide" sounds a bit like it's a choice /nm)
I understand what you're going for in the last bit but there's some context attached to it. Saying you're gay OR bi because you aren't sure which one you are is one thing. No shame in trying out multiple labels at once, it helps. Saying you're both gay AND bi (in terms of your actual sexuality not like a passing comment saying something like "Man I'm gay" yk) is another. That's contradictory
You probably just didn't know or maybe it was just something that slipped past the script (I give a lot of deference to this because I find a lot of people are just really unaware of this) but transgender"ism" is not a real word and is often used to dehumanize and otherize trans people and lump it in with ideologies rather than an identity. Trans people aren't an ism so I hope you'll avoid using that word in the future :)
@Rhys Higgon im happy that you support us, makes me have faith in humanity!
however as a trans person, most of the times ive seen the word "transgenderism" being used, it was in a harmful context so maybe don't use it at all
and just say trans! (much shorter and nicer word)
(it's just a friendly suggestion tho)
@Rhys Higgon You're a straight cis white guy aren't you? I am getting major vibes from the "I'm an ally but YOU'RE in the wrong despite you, a trans person telling me that the word is harmful to you and the community, but I know better than you and will talk over you and gaslight you into thinking I know better because I'm not actually an ally and have no plans to learn and do better "
I know I'm wasting my time, because neurotypical, ablebodied, cishet, allo white dudes think they know it all, but if you're not willing to learn from a community when they correct harmful terms and behaviors, you do NOT support us and you're NOT an ally.
I haven't got the dámn spoons to explain this to you nicely, I'm sick shít of being patient with people like you. If you aren't trans, either learn from your mistakes when a trans person corrects you or shut your fúckíng mouth but don't pretend to be something you're not.
@Rhys Higgon if you ignore trans people saying they arent comfortable with something you dont fully support them lmao
I might just live in The South, but I'm a transman and I've used the term "transgenderism" in discussion about the transgender experience, even around other trans/lgbt people, and no one's ever told me it offended them? I just use "transgenderism" as shorthand for "the experience of being transgender", and that's what a lot of my friends do too, mainly because it's too much work to *repeatedly* explain the nuances of gender to stubborn or ignorant family who either "forget" everything you told them or genuinely forget and slip up bc they're ignorant, not necessarily malicious. But yeah, I've never had any trans person get offended by me using the term "transgenderism"...
@@silverwolf6669 hey hey no need to attack them like that!
altough i fully agree with your point that they should listen to what trans people themselves have to say about it, there is no need to say it so aggressively.. and also call them a cis white guy like it's a bad thing? (cis white guys, and anyone can be our allies! and id rather encourage them to learn about us rather than bring them down)
"Putting 'Woke' stuff in media is bad!"
No, it isn't.
Portraying them in a shallow, stereotypical manner from a corporate profitability standpoint and only to generate social media drama is bad. That's what most media companies do, it benefits their marketing and rakes in viewers. Please use some critical thinking and self-awareness, this is embarrassing.
I'm a non-binary, feminine individual, whose attractions are to the feminine. I'm polygamous to boot.
I've heard 'gynesexual' before, but my attractions are to the feminine energy that surrounds people, it's very complicated and difficult to explain in words, but, to be fair, lesbianism, is more specific. My mother is pansexual, my auntie, lesbian. My sibling, I actually don't know.
The whole 'phase' thing, it might apply to music tastes, or some other things, and it may change how one dresses, even. Internally, no, there are no 'gender/sexuality' phases, but there is such a thing as 'applied fear tactics', and I hate that shit with a passion. Luci, hand me the lash, Karen's screaming again.
No wonder you are that way. Your family is a bunch of rainbows
"Too young to know"
But they're old enough to know they're a "heartbreaker" or a "lady-killer" i see a little funny thing called "double-standards."
Or a ghost hunter or a firefighter or a mountain climber or a US army soldier, etc., etc.
I recently got told that I just needed therapy.
I was watching a theory video on hellava boss.
And I replied to someone about there supposedly vivzipop is homophobic when all of the LGBT characters in both her shows are in a positive light.
And I replied saying that I hope we see not only more of those characters but even more.
Someone who I blocked and reported replied to me and said that I don't need representation or Ally ship instead I need therapy.
I flat out told him that I didn't care what they thought and Haven't gotten a reply yet.
During the dark time period where I had both homophobic and transphobic thoughts I never liked the idea of conversion therapy.
Because I've heard stories from friends and family who knew people who went and came out not only not "fixed" but given up on life.
I may have had a disliking for this community but I never wanted anyone to kill themselves.
I wouldn't wish suicide on my worst enemy and trust me this kid was a giant douche.
And is probably smelling like hobo pee sleeping in a box somewhere.
Oh I had my phone in my pocket while I was talking to someone. Sorry
@@jacobgarner6142 lol I do that way too much. accidentally leaving the phone screen on and slipping it in my pocket. My friends are always confused af XD
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Correction: Cheating can happen in a poly relationship if a partner behaves in a way outside of the set parameters of the relationship. Ie: sneaking around due to a latent feeling of guilt or shame, not using protection with a paramour and not giving full disclosure, or lying about the existence of a pre-existing current partner. For the most part, cheating happens when communication doesn’t or when consent is assumed or bypassed.
that still happens in hetero sexual relationships
There's actually lines in the Bible that actively *support* asexuality and aromanticism (and I don't mean any "purity" or celibacy stuff, not exactly). I don't recall what part or *exactly* who says it (and I've seen debate about if it was a different person than the one usually associated with the name); I *think* it was one of the apostles, but at the very least it was one of the people trusted to be preaching truth about God and God's will. Anyway, guy basically expresses the opinion that it's great to just chill on your own, but that if you really feel like you just have to have a partner, that such-and-such is what marriage should look like. The way it's presented though doesn't make it seem like he's encouraging celibacy as being a more "moral" option or anything, so much as that despite recognizing romantic/sexual relationships are commonly desired, that he doesn't... quite... know why. Like, "nah, there's nothing wrong with getting married and stuff, I just don't get why you'd want to." Guy gives heavy aroace vibes.
I imagine your point on how being trans is *not* disrespectful to God is meant to address how so much of the argument revolves around medical transition and you're just trying to list *a lot* of points very quickly, but it came off a little transmedicalist/truscummy, like medical transition is a requirement for trans folks. I think this is the first I've stumbled across you, so I don't know if you're more clear about that in other videos.
On the "it's a phase" thing, I 100% agree that trying to use that as an argument is BS. There *are* people who experience sexuality and gender in phases, though, including those who ultimately concluded that they were straight and/or cis after all - they're just super, super rare, especially when you take out the ones who have gone on to share that they had actually just returned to the closet/egg. Slightly higher numbers if you include those who settled on an identity adjacent to cis/het upon learning that there was, in fact, a spectrum in both identities. Still, in most of that, it's not the person's experience that changes; their understanding of the experience and how to best describe it simply improves. And even in the cases where people do have phased experiences, that it is experienced in phases does *not* make it any less real. Being a kid was a phase, but the fact that I'm an adult now doesn't change the fact that back then, *I was a kid* and it would have been wrong to treat me otherwise.
In *some* cases of "too many genders" and similar claims, when the person is honestly just confused and frustrated rather than just a jerk, I've actually had *some* success getting through via conditional agreement. I can agree that there are too many gender labels to memorize or include a full list in most circumstances, and I can agree that gender labels are a complete mess and that trying to understand *all* of it is a waste of time. (I'm saying this as a nonbinary person with a *stack* of applicable microlabels, btw.) The main two keys in it are that 1. language for gender is still developing, and the way that language develops is always messy, and 2. gender is a personal experience, is therefor inherently subjective, and everyone is just trying to figure out which terms make the most sense to them. Redundant terms will happen. Shifting definitions will happen, and usually those shifts will happen in some populations and not others. Different interpretations of a term will happen. All that needs to be understood is that it warrants respect, and respect includes making an honest effort to use the right words.
Cheating *does* exist in a poly context, it's just not inherent. Failing to get someone's consent would still count as cheating. Your elaboration is fine for a key points thing, but the statement that cheating just doesn't exist in poly relationships is false in such phrasing.
I've always thought asexuality overall was a blessing for anyone with celibacy.
@@juanmanuelmoramontes3883 Dunno. I get the sense that allosexual people likely typically do struggle more if they are trying to be celibate, but most asexual folks still have at least some degree of a libido and I've seen discussion of how frustrating (or downright disturbing for some) just that can be, especially considering that someone pursuing celibacy is more likely to additionally have a more negative view of taking care of it themselves.
Oh I don't think by transition he meant just medically, since they mentioned social transition too. Transition as a word is usually presumed to be medical but at least for me even just changing your name/pronouns/hair/wardrobe to match your identity better is transitioning if you consider it that for yourself, it's still a transition to living as your real gender. Though of course it's still not needed to be trans
I believe the apostle you are thinking of is Paul and to double up on the a first point, Jesus wasn’t mentioned to be married in the Bible, and since He is perfect and sinless, that means that it is not a sin to not get married. That is something I as an aro/ace and Christian have found works every time.
If being lgbtqia+ was a choice, i feel like most of us would rather not risk getting hatecrimed
9:41 As a non-binary person. I can say that just because a word is made up (even though every word is), That doen't mean that word brought a new feeling. That feeling was always there we just now have a word for it.
When I was little (for context I was assigned female at birth), I was always telling peoople that I wasn't a real girl because I was a tomboy. I didn't quite understand what it ment. But as a kid, I always saw it as someone who still identified as female, but was more inbetween male and female. So said I was a tomboy. Which I now realize was my version of non-binary at the time. Since I never heard of non-binary before. so yeah definetly real. Other wise why would I feel that when I had never heard of the consept of non-binary.
It is a fact non-binary is just made up fam.
In a way, we can now say that your gender is made up
Always important to remember that just because someone is in the LGBTQ community doesn't mean they're a good person. There are gay people who are biphobic, bisexual people who are aphobic, asexual people who are transphobic, and trans people who are transphobic towards non binary people.
I have had so many people tell me it's a choice to be LGBT+ and my best response is "the only choice I made was to be myself" also I will never understand why people get so mad at me for being asexual like hun it literally doesn't affect you
those douchebags just don't have anything good to do in their life so. . . they do dumb stuff like hating others for no reason at least that's what I think
A great response to "Bisexuality is just being desperate" is "no, Bisexuality is being attracted to genders like and unlike your own, being desperate is being attracted to you"
I’m 11 and I’m a proud lesbian gender fluid person 🏳️🌈✌️
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17M bi 🏳️🌈✌️
I’m 12 and asexual lesbian 🏳️🌈✌🏻
10:14 my favorite comeback to this is "You ever wanted to fuck a cactus? No? Well then maybe you just haven't fount the right cactus!"
"God hates you" well if God hates me for being my authentic self, then I don't want God to love me
This one kid told me that "being gay is a choice" one time... I told him "Well, so is being straight and non-supportive, now look at you. Getting upset over something that doesn't affect you. Are you happy with that?" And he just went silent- It was funny- Keep in mind, this is also the kid who thought I colored my eyes with a colored pencil or smth when I had red contacts in.. We're in tenth grade.. Tbh, you'd think he'd know better.
fun fact of the day! angels are technically non-binary.
but enbies are already gods
well maybe angels are more agender but its up for debate tbh
I have one power i accept being called any pronoun so you cant misspronoun me :3
same lol
if you don't have specific preferred pronouns then it's not really possible to misgender you
I was once told "Your name is a gift so you should not change it"
Have YOU kept EVERY gift given to you?? Sir that's stupid
@⸙ ¦ Moth ❞ lmao exactly!
@@anjafrohlich1170so true
4:46 People also say the whole reason god made wheat and not bread, and grapes and not wine, is so that humans can take part in the joy of creation, so why can't transness be seen the same way? He just gave me a little diy project lmao
This comment is so sweet.
Ben Shapiro is crying rn.
@⸙ ¦ Moth ❞ true
When im faced with "Its a choice," i typically either laugh awkwardly, or tell them to just choose to be gay. It doesn't work, but its still funny to me.
Me a possible bisexual: *constantly worrying if im just faking it or not*
U know that feeling when u think ur lesbian when u see a pretty girl, but then see a just as pretty guy and now u just wanna end it all
im so close to figuring this out and finally living on with my life, god pls give this to me
Its only small, but thank you so much for including aro ace people ❤ I've been told so many times that I am basically straight and to just "accept ill fall in love and want kids" so someone just casually mentioning it and saying its valid is so comforting. Thank you for that
I will say that you missed an argument that I get very often: "If you are in an exclusive relationship/married to a man, as a woman, (or vice versa) you cant be BI/Pan. You're straight." My current partner does not negate my sexuality. Period.
Animals like giraffes can be gay too that’s why I hate the saying “you weren’t meant to like the same gender”
7:54 I once remember watching a RUclips/TikToker who is lesbian and also fights for men’s rights (and women’s rights too of course). So yeah, that one is false.
I'm asexual and told my parents from a very young age that I never wanted kids of my own (adoption or step children is fine) They said it was a phase that I would grow out of, because I would grow up to want kids. I am almost 30. They are still holding out hope for blood related grandchildren.
The worst part is I have three siblings, and they all have too said they don't want children (they aren't ace they just don't want them, even adopt or step). So honestly, the only way my parents will ever have grandchildren, is if I adopt and the child isn't blood related. They are unhappy about it to say the least.
For the one about "changing your gender is disrespecting God"
-God gave you bad vision yet you change it with glasses?
-God gave you curly/straight hair yet you change it by straightening/curling it?
-God gave you the hair color you have yet you change it with dye?
-God gave you crooked teeth yet you straightened them with braces?
-God gave you a birth defect but yet you change it with surgery and prosthetics?
There a lot more things you change about your body that "God gave you" so the last thing you should worry about is someone changing their gender.
I had a customer once press his face against my ear and say "the bible say gay culture is a sin and you're going to hell"
I told him "I reserved my spot in hell.a long time ago for far greater crimes" and I could just physically see his discomfort
it's funny but i hope you were joking about the whole reserved spot in hell
@@MailMainbutnot yeah I was, no worries. I just told him that to make him as equally uncomfortable as I was
@@kaitygrace5326 okay thank you
The aro/ace ones made me extremely happy!
OMG IZZY 🙌
@@mylife-23 Yes, she's my favorite. Stan her!
@@moonbowcraze1632 Izzy best pony 🙌 n I ship Izzy X sunny
@@mylife-23 me too but as a qpr
@@moonbowcraze1632 🌻 valid
I don’t think everyone finds out their sexuality at an early age, I’m 17 and I didn’t find out my bisexuality until an exact month ago
I'm 16 and only found out what LGBTQIA+ meant 3 years ago, knowing this, growing up in a family that never told me of these people's existence, I grew to think that every girl wanted to be a boy. Which in many cases isn't true, because, ever since I was 6 I've been telling my parents I didn't want to be a girl, and even before then I enjoyed more boyish things. In April of 2021 I found out my sexuality, my gender wasn't clear to me yet at the time, but I found out about the term Omnisexual, I remember having extremely big crushes on specific girls from tv shows and video games, but not as much as boys, the questioning started in September of 2020 after I realized that one of the characters I had a crush on turned out to be nonbinary, but I knew that I couldn't be pan, since rarely had I had a crush on genders other than male, so I started digging and in April found the sexuality I was looking for. Around July I had a breakdown at around 2 AM in my kitchen about my pronouns and if I was trans, soon after I figured out that I was nonbinary with no preference in pronouns, I don't mind any pronoun, but I knew that I didn't feel comfortable in my body. Knowing that ever since my torso started to grow I didn't want it, knowing for the past year and a half I wanted to cut my hair, and knowing that I didn't like being treated like a girl were the biggest hints. While I don't mind people using she/her pronouns for me, I knew that I was different, and definitely wasn't connected to how a girl should be.
I tryed to come out on multiple occasions, even saying that I'm willing to wait for another 2 years, but every time the answer to it is "You are too young", if you never had the curroge to tell me that you had gay friends up until I asked about LGBTQIA+ and then proceeded to tell me you didn't like to talk about that, why are you telling me that the internet is the thing that has dragged me into my thought process
Whoever say that nonbinary people can't ue any other pronoun other than they/them are wrong. You can use any pronoun as a nonbinary, it doesn't stop you from being nonbinary, but most commonly they/them + one more are used
"Being gay is unnatural" I hate this because when people see two people of the same-sex kissing they'll get mad and say this. But when an alien kisses a human in a scifi movie, they won't care, they probably won't even think of it as "un-natural" since the alien and the human are members of the opposite sex. It just blows my mind.
These arguments annoy me so much because when I have a fucking essay in my brain ready to shut them up but THEY DON’T LISTEN OR IGNORE ME.
I literally want to fucking break them in half when this happens
It sucks because when we try to politely debate they ignore us, and when we finally snap and clap back they tell us we’re being immature or overreacting. It’s hard to be the bigger person when you’re forced to your knees
We should buy a private plot of land and make our own country.
I used to be kinda homophobic, looking back I can’t believe I thought like that lol
Well life choices depend on many things what matters most is that you changed and are able to reflect so i hope you don't feel too bad looking back. Look forward! 👍
I don't know man. Homes are pretty scary
it was just a phase lol
The way I've heard at least 30 of these claims from my mom 💀💀💀
Stay strong🏳️🌈
God made trans folks in the same way God made wheat, but not bread; water, but not wine, and saplings, but not flowers or trees.
Life is innately transformative. You aren't any less a man or a woman or anything in-between just because you were assigned one way at birth or another. You are like a sapling and you too will bloom into something magical and beautiful.
god truly is beautiful
Technically the Christian God could be enby because he doesn't actually have defined gender.
Because god is not human. God is not a creature or an organism