How Many Robot Masters Did Wily ACTUALLY Create?

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  • Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
  • I know this rule wasn't clearly stated in the video, but I am only counting Robot Masters that had a numerical code/serialization attached to them. That's why (SPOILERS, if you care that much), Zero, for example, was counted, but not King. That's why I leave some of those up to your interpretation. There really isn't a definitive template that makes a Robot Master in the Mega Man series, so we'd be here all day discussing potential Wily-made machines if I didn't give myself some restrictions. Hope that makes sense.
    Sources:
    ~ Windii's Stuff:
    -- Archive of their Mega Man Stuff: archive.org/de...
    -- Twitter (until that site goes under): / girlbossuran
    ~ Everything Else from the MMKB at megaman.fandom... and the original print edition of the "Mega Man Robot Master Field Guide"
    Track Listing:
    ~ Tengu Man's Stage - Mega Man & Bass (SNES)
    ~ Cut Man's Stage - Mega Man
    ~ Metal Man's Stage - Mega Man 2
    ~ Stage Select - Mega Man 2
    ~ Shadow Man's Stage - Mega Man 3
    ~ Bright Man's Stage - Mega Man 4
    ~ Gravity Man's Stage - Mega Man 5
    ~ Junk Man's Stage - Mega Man 7
    ~ Galaxy Man's Stage - Mega Man 9
    ~ Get the Punk Out - Mega Man 10
    ~ Overdrive Scramble (Special Stage) - Mega Man 9
    ~ Dr. Wily Capsule - Mega Man 10
    Games Shown (in no particular order):
    ~ Mega Man: Powered Up
    ~ Mega Man 2
    ~ Mega Man III (Rockman World 3)
    ~ Mega Man 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, & 11
    ~ Mega Man V (Rockman World 5)
    ~ Super Adventure Rockman
    ~ Mega Man & Bass
    ~ Mega Man & Bass: Challenger from the Future (Translations here: www.romhacking... )
    ~ Mega Man X4
    How did it take me so long to make a video with even less production value than the last?

Комментарии • 552

  • @crystalqueen9711
    @crystalqueen9711 Год назад +1123

    Honestly, I actually like how Wily only made about 1/3 of the total Robot Masters in the series, it really shows how despite his desire to be better than Dr Light, he's far too willing to take shortcuts and just steal other people's work, seemingly only learning from this mistake with Zero, who I can imagine Wily spent most of his life working on, including all of his twilight years

    • @austinreed7343
      @austinreed7343 Год назад +127

      Some side material like CD Dramas and Manga indicate Wily made even more of them; specifically in the 6 manga the RMs are stated to be Wily's seed players, while in the 10 CD drama he indicates the Roboenza patients were his sleeper agents the whole time.

    • @zettovii1367
      @zettovii1367 Год назад +62

      @@austinreed7343
      OG MegaMan had CD drama? Wow, how come this isn't more well known?

    • @JarateChop
      @JarateChop  Год назад +82

      @@zettovii1367 I can't believe I forgot to look into those! Thank you @Austin Reed for mentioning that! I believe they're actually in that archive of Windii's I listed in the description along with the Super Adventure Rockman stuff. They should have subtitle functionality right in Archive.org's webplayer, so you don't have to download them, if you're interested.

    • @seanjohnson5474
      @seanjohnson5474 Год назад +98

      All of that work, hatred, and spite, all for zero to become best friends with light’s final creation, X

    • @HaveYouTriedGuillotines
      @HaveYouTriedGuillotines Год назад +75

      You can look at this the other way around: Zero is proof that Wily was a brilliant engineer, possibly even moreso than Light... And that alone makes me think the robots he helped design or improved/finished should be added to his count.
      Makes Wily an interesting character: He's a man of great genius and great talent, but its often wasted or neglected due to ambition and competitiveness.

  • @gravethestampede3454
    @gravethestampede3454 Год назад +425

    I mean he still created 100% of his many fortresses, flying capsules, and space stations. So that must count for something

    • @JarateChop
      @JarateChop  Год назад +155

      Nah, I just got done building my 50th space station last night. Wily got nothing on me

    • @Doodle1678
      @Doodle1678 Год назад +79

      Plus all the non robot master bosses he has to make to protect his fortress such as the Yellow Devil

    • @NimhLabs
      @NimhLabs Год назад +45

      Naw... he stole those from other people. Old Woman Jenny use to live in that skull fortress with her five thousand cats... and then Dr. Wily just kicked her out... and most of the cats

    • @SabeNo-rh7mb
      @SabeNo-rh7mb Год назад +28

      But where the FUCK did he get the money and resources to build that ridiculous ass skyscraper he had in 10? That thing went all the way into the stratosphere!

    • @maxthompson7107
      @maxthompson7107 Год назад +19

      So that's where the rest of Wily's budget went.

  • @TheFatestPat
    @TheFatestPat Год назад +733

    Wily may have stolen a bunch of the Robot Masters, but you do have to appreciate all the work he did to turn them into combat machines. It's like taking one of those singing Chuck E Cheese robots and turning it into Iron Man with a mouse head.

    • @autobotstarscream765
      @autobotstarscream765 Год назад +67

      Mega Man vs. FNAF

    • @jokelethkurueisner9229
      @jokelethkurueisner9229 Год назад +57

      So taking Chuck E Cheese and turning him into Freddy Fazbear?

    • @davidthecommenter
      @davidthecommenter Год назад +51

      @@jokelethkurueisner9229 taking chuck-e-cheese and turning him into funtime freddy, since that one was actually made with the intent of kidnapping and murder

    • @jesusramirezromo2037
      @jesusramirezromo2037 Год назад +10

      Ehh not impressive either
      Most of these already had their abilities
      Its more so turning a stove into a bomb, anyone can do it, dosen't mean you're smart

    • @trentenogletree5898
      @trentenogletree5898 Год назад +43

      @@jesusramirezromo2037 my brother in Christ, he turned what was originally a Shepherd robot into a bunch of clouds that can shoot lightning and reform itself into a robot again. You cannot tell me that was his ability some of these had to have had no ability whatsoever.

  • @msgameandcake628
    @msgameandcake628 Год назад +261

    The original story behind Aqua Man's creation in 8's instruction manual is that he is a failed attempt at creating Frost Man, incapable of properly freezing the water in his systems, and thus made into a water-based robot master. Naturally, this would also make Aqua Man a Wily creation.
    Apparently, later sources retcon this fact, making him a stolen and modified robot instead. This may be on account of Frost Man's backstory being that he was made from spare parts left over from Clown Man's modification. This would imply that there were SO MANY spare parts from Clown Man's modification Wily was able to not only make Frost Man, but managed to fail to make Frost Man the first time around and, as a result, make Aqua Man too.

    • @JarateChop
      @JarateChop  Год назад +80

      It certainly is an odd retcon to make, since I feel like those two have the connection of both being water-based robots (unless it wasn't present in the original Japanese manual and they wanted to change that). Who knows what the people behind the scenes were thinking though, this franchise definitely has its share of inconsistencies lol.

    • @Josuh
      @Josuh Год назад +33

      Guess Wily just loved Clown Man that much

    • @flameslinger8820
      @flameslinger8820 Год назад +41

      My Headcanon from the retcon is that Wily was very impressed with Aqua man's ability to manipulate water that he tried to replicate it... but failed to properly do so as his prototype machines kept freezing the water instead of bending it. This would result in Wily just deciding to steal Aqua man, but reusing the failed prototypes to build Frost man. Because he's made with Faulty parts however, Frost man suffers from robot health problems like low oil circulation as mentioned in his bio.
      While the idea Wily could make a whole giant from Clown man's spare parts is funny... I mean just look at clown man. The dude is tiny compared to Frost.

    • @bestaround3323
      @bestaround3323 Год назад +4

      @@flameslinger8820 oh no, frost man was made from spare clown man parts

    • @flameslinger8820
      @flameslinger8820 Год назад +5

      @@bestaround3323 I know he is in canon. This was just my own Headcanon

  • @juanman2483
    @juanman2483 Год назад +199

    My headcannon on the DWN fiasco is that Wily's legal robot registration patent is notably cheaper than everyone else's, and also he just lets everyone freely choose to do it, making the process really practical and simple, making it so everyone uses the DWN numbers to save money and time, even Light gives Wily the rights when they do jobs together, and as a manufacturer, this also gives him some monetary benefits which he uses for his future inventions, part of the reason he gets spared a lot, even after all the things he did, is because without him, everyone has to pay a lot more for the other official legal robot registration patents, it's the perfect plan.

    • @JarateChop
      @JarateChop  Год назад +52

      That's a very creative way of looking at it, I love it lmao

    • @yeeoof1995
      @yeeoof1995 Год назад +8

      this is amazing

    • @kf8113
      @kf8113 Год назад +22

      And it'd explain where he gets all his money from! Even though the individual patent may be much cheaper than others, it could very well gather the majority of the robot registration market because of its accessibility, amounting to a very big, very consistent fortune.

    • @MelonHere20
      @MelonHere20 Месяц назад

      That's honestly a really well thought out point

  • @paires0
    @paires0 Год назад +165

    Zero was his redeeming factor. He out done himself creating that beast of a robot. Good job tho.

    • @SabeNo-rh7mb
      @SabeNo-rh7mb Год назад +27

      And seeing as he long outlived both Mega and X (Light's two magnum opuses), and wouldn't die until his final fight with Weil? Yeah, that was one hell of a legacy.

    • @paires0
      @paires0 Год назад +19

      @@SabeNo-rh7mb considering how freakshly powerful Zero is. The guy really was a genuis

    • @chromasus9983
      @chromasus9983 Год назад +2

      @@SabeNo-rh7mb Zero's got his ass handed to him multiple times though throughout the games, just in the X series.. I wouldn't call him all that powerful!

    • @vitopasco8266
      @vitopasco8266 Год назад +4

      Wily always wins

    • @paires0
      @paires0 Год назад +15

      @@chromasus9983 "got his ass handed to him". Ummmm where?.
      Before the event of X1:(X4 flash back) Zero kicked the living shit out of sigma until his head showed the "W" and started to hurt him.
      In X1: Vile traped him, after Zero deliverd the massive humiliation in the beggining(and clearly he was afraid). My evidence? The capsules he prepared specifically for him.
      In Maverick Hunter X(X1 remake) (btw this game is completely non canon): Vile specifically said that Zero shouldve considered Vile to be there and not sigma. Implying that He ambushed Zero. Again after Zero Humiliated him.
      In X2: (canon) no one.
      (non canon), X fought him while he being mind controllered. Still he still can block full charge shots with his bare HAND. So he IS a force to be reckoned with. And just destroyed the ground with his bare HAND
      So if they switched position and X was mind controllered it wouldnt be fair dose it ?.
      In X3: (canon) no one.
      (non canon) the bee fell on him AFTER HE DEFEATED IT.
      X4: no one
      X5: the fight between Zero(still a good guy) and X was a draw, YET he stood up FIRST and SAVED X for the FIFTH TIME.
      And his fight against Sigma in the end, he still kicked Sigma's ass before exploding damaging Zero in the proses.
      Btw X was also just a torso in the same state as Zero if not worse before Light came and saved him.
      Awakened Zero fight: still a draw due to Zero fighting his evil self. My evidence?. Zero returning to his "good guy" self SAVING X YET AGAIN. Plus Dude can one shot ultimate armor X out of existence with his Genmurei. Yeah HE IS A POWER HOUSE.
      X6: no one
      X7: no one
      X8: NO ONE
      Z1: kicked the living shit out of "copy" X to the point he needed to explode himself just out of spite.
      Z2: no one
      Z3: no one
      Z4: Zero DEFEATED Wile before ragnarok expolde. Saving the entire fucking planet AGAIN. And allowing the Zx AND the legend series charecter's to thrive.
      Yeah he is ultra powerful. So who kicked his ass again?

  • @sigmaposting5882
    @sigmaposting5882 Год назад +267

    Better than Sigma's track record. As far as I'm aware, he's only confirmed to have created Dark Necrobat.

    • @austinreed7343
      @austinreed7343 Год назад +66

      Wire Sponge was also made by him, as were Spike Rosered & Crush Crawfish. (One can also assume he made Crystal Snail and Morph Moth, and he at the very least majorly revamped Split Mushroom) Others like Spark Mandrill, Wheel Gator, and more at least joined him willingly.

    • @youngkappakhan
      @youngkappakhan Год назад +60

      i don't think these two compare. sigma gets by as a villain on leadership skills, military experience and charisma rather than inventiveness. and of course virus

    • @JoeyCannoli
      @JoeyCannoli Год назад +18

      Wasn’t Crush Crawfish a preexisting Reploid, though? According to the Mega Man wiki, he was designed as a military combat Reploid but deemed a failure because a bug in his programming made him unable to tell his friends from his foes, leading him to be stowed away in a warehouse for maintenance where he was then stolen by Dr. Doppler.

    • @austinreed7343
      @austinreed7343 Год назад +5

      @@JoeyCannoli I recall that he was made by Sigma as a combat Reploid.

    • @blackpants7385
      @blackpants7385 Год назад +1

      @@austinreed7343 Seems that Rosered was more of an accident

  • @oguzhangungor9117
    @oguzhangungor9117 Год назад +109

    Honestly, it just makes you realize how much of a hard time Wily must have had building his army with his non-existent budget. Heck, the fact that Bass and Zero are able to go toe-to-toe with their rivals (X and Classic MM) despite being built on budget speaks volumes about Wily's genius and adaptability. Heck, Zero, despite his unfinished build in X1, was much stronger than X and was easily able to catch up after his completion at the hands of the X-hunters.

    • @gigaslave
      @gigaslave 11 месяцев назад +8

      My hypothesis is that Zero closed the gap between his Bassnium-powered body and X's "UNLIMITED POTENTIAL" MKIII Solar Refractor Microfusion powered body with the power of a perfected Double Gear system.

  • @SandwitchZebra
    @SandwitchZebra Год назад +37

    Somewhat unrelated but I’ve always liked Zero’s “DWN No. INFINITY” designation. The number zero is about the furthest you can get from infinity, so it kind of highlights how Zero ended up the opposite of what Wily intended.

  • @bulba1218
    @bulba1218 Год назад +114

    Wily really do be rocking that programmer mentality
    But seriously though, really, REALLY good and funny video, like holy hell this was some of the best Mega Man content I've seen in a while

    • @JarateChop
      @JarateChop  Год назад +7

      ^ Best description for Wily, lmao
      I'm happy that you enjoyed the video though, thank you so so much for watching!

    • @knightdude23
      @knightdude23 8 месяцев назад

      oh hi

    • @bulba1218
      @bulba1218 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@knightdude23 no

  • @Predator20357
    @Predator20357 Год назад +97

    Dr Wily is the kind of guy to immediately label them all under his name once they agree to join. At least he’s able to turn things like Dentists into War Machines

  • @juliocesar6795
    @juliocesar6795 Год назад +128

    I didn't stop to actually count how many robots Wawee did, I always thought it wouldn't be more than 20, but he actually made over 30? That’s impressive, he sure is a genius, he could help so much the entire world, but..

    • @JarateChop
      @JarateChop  Год назад +37

      I always like to think that if he didn't get rejected by the board, he would have at least made a couple good contributions to the world of robotics. The Double Gear concept seemingly had good intentions to begin with!

    • @belrumwade4733
      @belrumwade4733 Год назад +23

      @@JarateChop Dude just wanted to create Robot Super Heroes and you could say that that's reflected on Zero's design with some twists in the match.

    • @Josuh
      @Josuh Год назад +5

      Yeah, i wonder if he had any family that would support him at the very least, dude be lonely af, at least light had his robot kids

    • @Crow_Rising
      @Crow_Rising Год назад +14

      @@JarateChop Honestly I don't think the board is a good scapegoat for Wily's actions. He chose of his own volition to do harm many times, and even when Light reached out to him for a collaboration, Wily chose to be petty instead and rejected the offer to do more villainy. Even if the board had chosen his designs over Light's I imagine Wily's personality just makes him the kind of guy who would let it go to his head and he'd end up abusing it.

  • @thatartkid4439
    @thatartkid4439 Год назад +90

    Wily just steals other robots because it’s too expensive making new ones it’s cheaper to just reprogram them so we can understand him a bit more

  • @DeepWeeb
    @DeepWeeb Год назад +47

    I believe at one point they should have ditched the whole "Doctor [Name] Number" codename scheme and use a more generic acronym: "RMN" *(Robot Master Number")*
    That way it would make sense for each robot to be part of a "series" regardless of their actual creator

  • @k.w.pillsbury4070
    @k.w.pillsbury4070 Год назад +28

    Had to re-post this comment for some reason.
    Robot Masters with their proper serial numbers. (Excluding the Wily Numbers. If you want to see them, #melo 7904 already hade his own similar list that includes them.
    Light Wily Numbers (Using RWN because the devs already made that Logo)
    RWN-001: Needle Man
    RWN-002: Magnet Man
    RWN-003: Gemini Man
    RWN-004: Hard Man
    RWN-005: Top Man
    RWN-006: Snake Man
    RWN-007: Spark Man
    Ra Moon Numbers (Archie)
    SRN-001: Terra
    SRN-002: Mercury
    SRN-003: Venus
    SRN-004: Mars
    SRN-005: Jupiter
    SRN-006: Saturn
    SRN-007: Uranus
    SRN-008: Pluto
    SRN-009: Neptune
    KDN-???: ShadowMan (Mass produced Kuiper Droid)
    Doctor Cossack Numbers
    DCN-001: BrightMan
    DCN-002: ToadMan
    DCN-003: DrillMan
    DCN-004: PharaohMan
    DCN-005: RingMan
    DCN-006: DustMan
    DCN-007: DiveMan
    DCN-008: SkullMan
    DCN-009: TundraMan
    Doctor Pedro Astil (Archie)
    DAN-001: PlantMan
    Dr. Noelle Lalinde (Archie)
    DLN-001: Tempo/QuakeWoman
    King Numbers (Made by King)
    KGN-001: GroundMan
    KGN-002: PirateMan
    Unknown Maker
    * Stolen *
    MM6
    Blizzard Man
    Centaur Man
    Flame Man
    Knight Man
    Plant Man
    Tomahawk Man
    Wind Man
    Yamato Man
    MM7
    FreezeMan
    BurstMan
    CloudMan
    ShadeMan
    MM8
    TenguMan
    AstroMan
    ClownMan (Kinda thought so.)
    AquaMan
    * Virus *
    MM10
    BladeMan
    PumpMan
    CommandoMan
    ChillMan
    SheepMan
    StrikeMan
    NitroMan
    SolarMan
    “Recruited”
    R&F (MegaMan And Bass)
    DynamoMan
    ColdMan (Possibly Dr. Light? Nothing Solid on this.)
    BurnerMan
    MagicMan
    MM11 (The Serial Numbers are made up/shortened to keep the three letter convention.)
    Nakaume Heavy Machinery
    NHM-001: BlockMan
    NHM-002: ImpactMan
    O.D.A. Electronics
    ODA-001: FuseMan
    B.B. Bomb Company
    BBB-001: BlastMan
    Mecha-Chuchets Institute of Robology
    MCR-001: AcidMan
    Tsubakuro Precision Machining
    TPM-001: TorchMan
    Joint R&D (Rebound Rubber & Momo's Robot Farm)
    RDR/MRF-001: BounceMan (Two Makers.)
    Doctor Light Numbers
    DLN-000: ProtoMan (Blues)
    DLN-001: MegaMan/RockMan (Rock)
    DLN-002: Roll
    DLN-003: CutMan
    DLN-004: GutsMan
    DLN-005: IceMan
    DLN-006: BombMan
    DLN-007: FireMan
    DLN-008: ElecMan
    DLN-00A: TimeMan
    DLN-00B: OilMan
    (DLN--: ColdMan? Again, nothing solid.)
    DLN-009: ConcreteMan
    DLN-010: TornadoMan
    DLN-011: SplashWoman
    DLN-012: PlugMan
    DLN-013: JewelMan
    DLN-014: HornetMan
    DLN-015: MagmaMan
    DLN-016: GalaxyMan
    DLN-Infinity: BondMan
    Special Wily Number
    SWN-000: BreakMan
    SWN-001: Bass

    • @JarateChop
      @JarateChop  Год назад +5

      SHEEESH that’s one hell of a list! Glad it finally got posted!

    • @k.w.pillsbury4070
      @k.w.pillsbury4070 Год назад +3

      @@JarateChop Thanks. It took quite a few hours on little too no sleep at the end of one of my days to research all of this.

    • @linhero797
      @linhero797 Год назад

      Many people who see this may ask why there is no DLN number for X. It's important for people to realize that Light made X as a robot that was fully free and capable of thinking. A feat no other machine Light made ever couls so. Dr. Light didnt see X as a Robot. Light saw X as a humanoid. A living creature with a mind as complex as himself. And thus Light gave X no number classification because a DLN would go against the very ideas he had with X by removing the humanity of X and making him just a Robot with advamced mental capacities.

  • @LeKornorBros
    @LeKornorBros Год назад +198

    You got a few facts mixed up. Search Man is the 4th original Wily Number present in Mega Man 8, and King didn't create Magic Man, but he did create Pirate Man. We do know that King and Rockman Shadow were indeed created by Wily too, despite the lack of proper serial numbers. And to clear out the uncertainty regarding Fake Men, they were reprogrammed police robots. Also, the Dark Man series is a set of Robot Masters, so they should count too, and if we overlook PU's dubious canonicity, Mega Man? is also a possibility.
    Other than that, you got all of the most important information right. Not sure why the book doesn't have information on Robot Masters that is available in other official sources, but I digress.

    • @JarateChop
      @JarateChop  Год назад +31

      Could you please provide links to these other official sources you are referring to? I'm sure that other commenters as well as I would appreciate it.
      To respond to your points, in the Field Guide (which may be outdated, so I won't deny your points), they say that Search Man was originally created as a surveillance robot that Wily later stole and reprogrammed with an extra head as a modification. That is why he was omitted.
      The wording on Pirate Man's origins don't explicitly say that King made him, but I can see now to where it can be inferred that he did and that I just overlooked that when reading, so I apologize for at least regretting to mention him.
      I found no sources actually confirming Fake Man's origins beyond the game's implications, so that's why I couldn't be certain for him. Again, if you have links to official sources from Mega Man/Rockman 9 that confirms his origins, I'd be happy to read them.
      I could have mentioned the Dark Man robots, but for the same reason I neglected to mention Doc Robot and did not add King to the list, they do not have serial codes. I mention in the description that I only counted Masters with a serial code, otherwise who's to say what makes a Robot Master a Robot Master (Duo and the Stardroids, for example) and how many Wily had his hands in creating. I should have still at least mentioned them so that the audience could have made a better judgement for themselves, however, so I apologize for missing that information. On a similar note, that's why Mega Man? was passed over, as he fills about the same role as Shadow, both lacking serial codes despite being full creations of Wily's. I still regret not mentioning him though.
      Thank you for your comment though, I will do my best to make sure those things don't get overlooked next time.

    • @LeKornorBros
      @LeKornorBros Год назад +25

      ​@@JarateChop Sadly, your request won't be as easy and straight to fulfil. My main source of information, MMKB, while is very reliable, it is also stingy with sharing their sources. I was, however, pointed to a few books that could be some of their points of reference.
      > R20 Rockman & Rockman X Official Complete Works (2008, Japan)
      > Mega Man Official Complete Works (2009, USA)
      > R20+5 Rockman & Rockman X Official Complete Works/MM25 Mega Man & Mega Man X Official Complete Works (2012, Japan/2013, USA)
      These are the only official books, other than the Robot Master Field Guide, that I managed to find. Also, while the first rwo titles seem to be the same book, they are listed separately, so I did the same here just in case. But other than books, there were also some websites that have been lost to time and, from what I remember, some game collections had bonus content of that kind (although the latter I am not 100% certain on). That's the best I can do for you.

    • @whomstthehecc3028
      @whomstthehecc3028 Год назад +6

      Wasn't "Megaman?" a reprogrammed Megaman, though? The whole reason that character exists is because a robot master was chosen as a playable character instead of Mega, so, Wily steals them instead. I guess if retrofitting Mega with armor and stuff counts?

    • @patrickleblanc613
      @patrickleblanc613 Год назад +1

      I would also like to add megaman 3 on the gameboy is the odd one out compared with the other 4, as unlike the space setting for those games final stage, mega man 3s final castle stage comes up from the ocean.

    • @yokai59loi36
      @yokai59loi36 Год назад +1

      @@whomstthehecc3028 That is powered up. We do not continue discussing that.

  • @matti.8465
    @matti.8465 Год назад +39

    I love how the robots actually created by Wily are usually the ones made from actual garbage.

  • @grinnyyyyyyyyyyy
    @grinnyyyyyyyyyyy Год назад +56

    Some of the ones Wily stole could have DWN's because he modified them for combat. The RM's could have been registered with DWN's after the upgrades.

    • @Freedmoon44
      @Freedmoon44 Год назад +2

      That would mean Breakman/Protoman/Blues which has been modified by Wily and given weapons would also be a DWN at the same time as being a DLN. But ok tbf Proto is a weird case amongst weird case as the first Robot master

    • @austinreed7343
      @austinreed7343 3 месяца назад

      @@Freedmoon44
      Yeah, but I take it to mean those other robots weren’t even SENTIENT until Wily modified them to be such.

  • @RichardDong68
    @RichardDong68 Год назад +90

    This video did so much more correct thought and research into the source material than GameTheory ever did.

    • @JarateChop
      @JarateChop  Год назад +16

      Hmmm... That wasn't hard to do in that case... and I still missed stuff!
      Thank you very much for watching!

    • @Pēm̐cā
      @Pēm̐cā Год назад +3

      So true

    • @DETahaX
      @DETahaX Год назад +3

      word

  • @theonlybilge
    @theonlybilge Год назад +18

    I like how Wily just loves Guts Man

  • @aliastheabnormal
    @aliastheabnormal Год назад +44

    I always thought that the DWN numbers thing was just something made for convenience. Also some sources do state that the Megaman 4 robot masters are also known as the Cossack numbers. Since Cossack has custody of the robots much how the Mega man 1 robots are called the Light numbers due to their association with Maga man and Dr. Light. So maybe the entire system is just a giant public misconception that is there for convenience sake. After all Robot Masters were going to be phased out when Light and Wily died and the entire concept buried for 100 years if the AI retirement laws were any indication. So maybe the whole thing was a half assed measure created to please Wily's ego.

    • @JarateChop
      @JarateChop  Год назад +8

      Would be quite meta, but I like the idea!

    • @linhero797
      @linhero797 Год назад

      More likely a criminal code for specific RM models honestly.

  • @springssprangyard8278
    @springssprangyard8278 Год назад +25

    Every time budget or cheapness is mentioned I have to chuckle, it's such a priceless idea the evil genius had to deal with limited funds... and it resulted in some of the funniest robots. It only makes Wily more likeable imo hahaha. Great vid!

  • @rayquazathenoodledragon9630
    @rayquazathenoodledragon9630 Год назад +11

    13:11 wily also uses skull as a his symbol and he wasn't the one that created skullman

  • @Kumaclaws
    @Kumaclaws Год назад +36

    I love that even with the small numbers of Robot Masters that Wily actually made, they’re still subjected to being rehashed concept from Light’s robots. Canonically, a majority of 2’s Robot Masters are either pulling from 1’s designs or used for future robots. It just goes to show that Wily’s plans for world domination go above practicality or creativity

  • @vvlaze
    @vvlaze Год назад +31

    The section briefly showing the comic page with Ra Thor was actually intriguing enough to get me to bite the bullet and read Archie’s run of Mega Man, so thank you for that, was quite a nice read.

    • @JarateChop
      @JarateChop  Год назад +10

      It is an amazing read, I just wish it didn’t have to end so soon. I’m glad I was able to give it some more exposure through this video! Thank you so much for watching!

    • @darkiusmc979
      @darkiusmc979 Год назад +1

      I think the reason it got discontinued was a mix between them losing a lot of money due to the Ken Penders fiasco, and that the Mega Man comics were never super successful anyway.

    • @nicholasfarrell5981
      @nicholasfarrell5981 Год назад

      ​@darkiusmc979 just another reason to curse the name Ken Penders.

  • @AdamTheGameBoy
    @AdamTheGameBoy Год назад +44

    The original story does actually mention that Light and Wily worked together during Mega Man 1 and Mega Man was just impossible to reprogram. There is potential to argue it was retconned, but the fact that the comics corroborate, MM11 shows that Light and Wily used to be classmates and rivals and could have chosen to work together after graduating and that in MMBN which was created as just a different branch of the classic timeline where society in the late 1900s and early 2000s focused on internet tech instead of robotics shows that Dr. Hikari and Wily worked together; it's safe to say them working together during MM1 is still canon.
    If you need further proof, when Keiji made MN9 he used the same plot point again.

    • @theblazingpyro5914
      @theblazingpyro5914 Год назад +16

      Dr. Light's journal states the development processes of the first line of robots and wily is no where referred to.
      if anything, no one but Light knew that wily was one behind the light numbers going rogue.
      You can read the journal in a pdf reader, or you could listen to someone read it on youtube,
      though I still recommend pdf because it's more fun to read it yourself

    • @Ghosty_Dosty
      @Ghosty_Dosty Год назад

      Megaman? Impossible to reprogram? PU would like to disagree

    • @theblazingpyro5914
      @theblazingpyro5914 Год назад +7

      @@Ghosty_Dosty in powered up he wasn't reprogrammed. That was copy robot. Rock was just at home with roll as you can see in the ending.

    • @sonicthehedgehog23145
      @sonicthehedgehog23145 Год назад

      @@Ghosty_Dosty yeah actually, wily only didn’t reprogram him due to his seemingly “uselessness”.

    • @ThatGuy-tc6uv
      @ThatGuy-tc6uv Год назад +3

      From how I understand it, Archie was using the old "Dr. Light and Dr. Wily were business partners" plot point which was a localization thing (the MM1 manual story did not mention Wily being Light's assistant in JP, for example). So whether or not Wily and Light working together during MM1 is canon depends on if one goes with the original JP story or the english localization.

  • @papyrussemi2848
    @papyrussemi2848 Год назад +13

    I saw a theory that said that the main reason why the DWN series continues after the DLN series is because Wily is petty, and the MM9 DLN series continues from the MM8 DWN series because Dr. Light still respects Dr. Wily's skills.

    • @JarateChop
      @JarateChop  Год назад +4

      I like that concept a lot! I think if there were to be any canonical explanation to this very specific issue, that would make the most sense. Kudos to the individual(s) who came up with that, and thank you for sharing that here!

  • @melo-7904
    @melo-7904 Год назад +10

    renumbering the robot masters to make more sense (for the nes games at least)
    DLN 000 blues/proto man
    DLN 001 rock/mega man
    DLN 002 roll
    mega man 1
    DLN 003 cut man
    DLN 004 guts man
    DLN 005 ice man
    DLN 006 bomb man
    DLN 007 fire man
    DLN 008 elec man
    extra mm1/mmpu robot masters
    DLN 00A time man
    DLN 00B oil man
    (and because why not) DLN 00C bond man
    mega man 2
    DWN 001 metal man
    DWN 002 air man
    DWN 003 bubble man
    DWN 004 quick man
    DWN 005 crash man
    DWN 006 flash man
    DWN 007 heat man
    DWN 008 wood man
    MEGA MAN 3 (new number format: DLWN dr light, wily number/right,wily please note this number format was seen in mega man megamix)
    DLWN 001 needle man
    DLWN 002 magnet man
    DLWN 003 Gemini man
    DLWN 004 hard man
    DLWN 005 top man
    DLWN 006 snake man
    DLWN 007 spark man
    DLWN 008 shadow man (shadow man has unknown origins but can still fit under DLWN as DLWN 008)
    MEGA MAN 4 (new format: DCN dr cossack number also seen as DCN in megamix)
    DCN 001 bright man
    DCN 002 toad man
    DCN 003 drill man
    DCN 004 pharaoh
    DCN 005 ring man
    DCN 006 dust man
    DCN 007 dive man
    DCN 008 skull man
    MEGA MAN 5 (note wily could try to hide the fact he made these so he would likely put them in the DMN dark man number or PMN proto man number)
    DWN 009 gravity man
    DWN 010 wave man
    DWN 011 stone man
    DWN 012 gyro man
    DWN 013 star man
    DWN 014 charge man
    DWN 015 napalm man
    DWN 016 crystal man
    MEGA MAN 6 (we dont know who made them other then plant man which is made by dr astil so he is DAN-001 so for the 7 other i will just put a question mark after D, you can also call the others MXN "mister X number" due to being apart of the tournament held by mr X)
    D?N 001 blizzard man
    D?N 001 centaur man
    D?N 001 flame man
    D?N 001 knight man
    DAN 001 plant man
    D?N 001 tomahawk man
    D?N 001 WIND MAN
    D?N 001 yamato man

    • @JarateChop
      @JarateChop  Год назад +2

      doing god's work here, lmao, thank you!

    • @k.w.pillsbury4070
      @k.w.pillsbury4070 Год назад +3

      I just posted a comment like this yesterday. Where did it go?

    • @melo-7904
      @melo-7904 Год назад +1

      @@k.w.pillsbury4070 if it contained a link then YT would delete it of the face of the earth
      and i didnt see your comment so i didnt steal it
      how would i have stolen it if i didnt even know it existed

    • @k.w.pillsbury4070
      @k.w.pillsbury4070 Год назад +1

      @@melo-7904 it contained no link and I definitely wasn’t accusing you of stealing it. I don’t know where that came from.

    • @melo-7904
      @melo-7904 Год назад +1

      @@k.w.pillsbury4070 well it probably just got lost in the yt comment section
      And me “accusing” you of accusing me was just me just covering a base for future readers so in like 4-7 months some one doesn’t try to accuse me of stealing a comment from that 4 to 7 month time frame

  • @redjirachi1
    @redjirachi1 Год назад +15

    The real reason Zero doesn't kill everyone was because Wily was arrested for copyright infringement before he could unleash him onto the world

  • @D3nz3lCr0ck3r
    @D3nz3lCr0ck3r Год назад +10

    If you think about it, even if less than half robot master are his creations, Wily did i fine work with his available resources. It's not like he could get funds from a sponsor or something like that, since he's a wanted criminal.
    Yet he managed to make more than 30 robots, create countless fortresses and some non-serialized robots.
    Also, let's not forget his last creation that was so strong that it kept fighting for more than two centuries (not the way he wanted, though)

  • @dustincompton992
    @dustincompton992 Год назад +13

    Hey, just because he’s better at reprogramming rather than building doesn’t mean he’s not a scientist, it just shows his specialty was in AI development and design… is what I’d like to say, but the introduction of 11 made it pretty clear that was Light’s specialty while Wily focused on the mechanics. Maybe that’s why a lot of the robot masters can be put into exploitable patterns during their boss fights. Once Wily has had a crack at their code they’re just not as adaptable as a Light creation.

    • @sirhoopsalot7605
      @sirhoopsalot7605 Год назад +3

      that would also explain why wily made so few robot masters, he just didn't have the skills TO make a lot of them from scratch. he had enough skill to reprogram robots, but not enough to write his own stuff.
      considering he eventually makes bots like bass and then zero, it's possible he learned enough from other people's code that he COULD start to make his own robot masters in bulk, but largely stuck to theft because it was far faster and more efficient to steal other people's work than pour time and resources into making his own.

  • @murphmariotwopointoh7714
    @murphmariotwopointoh7714 Год назад +27

    Asides from the numerical code issue, King was more likely than not created by Wily. King states that Dr. Wily made him after being defeated (at least in Bass' playthrough) and Wily later refers to himself as King's maker. Not to mention Wily having blueprints for a successor to King prior to Proto Man destroying them.

  • @nitrostriker9369
    @nitrostriker9369 Год назад +7

    funniest thing about Zero is that Wily still made a mistake when building him, Zero's programming had a bug that made him extremely violent and disobedient, which wily found out when he activated him during a test while building him, similar to what Light did with X in the Day of Sigma OVA
    after that Wily had Bass related ptsd flashbacks and went "yeah not dealing with that" and shoved the uncompleted zero into one of his hidden labs with the virus he was working on separately that conveniently keeps him in line......mostly
    pretty sure everything that happened with Sigma was purely a freak accident that not even Wily could predict, he probably thought the virus would just infect some random robot and cause some general chaos instead of someone like sigma
    also, i firmly believe that the main reason he keeps running out of money because he wastes them on giving his castles the skull a s t h e t i c, along with all the cash he must have used up to renovate the areas the robot masters takes over into actual beatable obstacle courses, as confirmed by wily during his twitter takeover of the official megaman twitter account a while back, his reasoning for not just making an impossible death trap being something about beating megaman "fair and square"

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 Год назад +5

      What is strange is that Wily actually digitized his memories and as a reploid collaborated with Sigma at least once, with it being unclear why he did so. But then again, he also just decided to book it and never publically appear again at the end of X6, so idk what is going on there in general.

    • @nitrostriker9369
      @nitrostriker9369 Год назад +4

      @@lpfan4491 it wouldn't surprise me if his AI copy self was accidentally corrupted by the virus or something, which was why he supported Sigma's genocidal campaign, it definitely feels like a something Wily would do tbh, he does something actually advantageous and it backfires on him badly
      like what happened with the MM10 RMs, where he had actually stole them and was planning to have them rampage throughout the world, but was not expecting them to go berzerk in his own lab and actually steal the parts he needed to make the cure lol

    • @justice8718
      @justice8718 2 месяца назад

      If you looked at Zero before Sigma defeated him, he had the W on his forehead to indicate that he was Dr. Wily.

  • @KewlNerd20X6
    @KewlNerd20X6 Год назад +10

    The Cossack Robots actually are listed as DCN in the Mega Man Megamix mangas. They still have the same numberings, though...

  • @TheDukeofCheese12
    @TheDukeofCheese12 Год назад +5

    There is a certain irony of Dr. Wily stealing a robot named Pirate Man

  • @thunderbro7218
    @thunderbro7218 Год назад +4

    I like to imagine the third game robots are in the middle of a divorce situation and can be wily or lights 🤣

  • @JarateChop
    @JarateChop  Год назад +31

    This is a very belated pinned comment, but feel like I might as well post it now to potentially curb some of the duplicate notifications I keep receiving on this video to this day.
    I forgot to mention the Dark Man robots while discussing Mega Man 5 in the video. However, even if I did mention them, I would not count them in my PERSONAL list of Robot Masters (doesn't mean that you can't add them to your own personal list). As I neglected to set down any real ground rules during the intro, I wasn't able to state that I was only counting the Robot Masters that were given a serial code, that being an "XYZ 000" type of classification. I mention this in the description, but I understand that not everybody reads that (not that some people won't just pass by this post either). If the Dark Man robots were given a classification along the lines of "DKM 01 - 04" in the games, I would have definitely remembered to include them in the script like I did with King. But, because they lacked any serialization, I completely forgot about them when compiling everybody for the collage image as well as the script. I apologize for not giving them at least a mention like I did with King.
    Anyways... That’s my lame excuse. If there's anything else I've forgotten in this video, feel free to reply to this post with your observation, and make sure it includes a "👉" emoji so my brain can imagine there was a vine boom sfx implied with it. Thanks.

    • @robbiewalker2831
      @robbiewalker2831 Год назад +1

      The way I see the "Serialized Numbering System" in Mega Man, and that they are all known as Robot Masters, that means they are Robots specifically made to be given Android features, specifically Human Limbs and special tasks. Time Man and Oil Man weren't considered to be part of the original lineup, given that they never thought of doing so back then, especially when they had a Seventh Robot Master in mind that never made it past the development stage. Anyways, if they want to lump all the Robot Masters together with a growing number, I would label the combined number of Robot Masters as RMN (or Robot Master Number). As for what you said at 8:47, It's likely they are indeed creations of Dr. Light, but at this point (given the logistical explanation I tried to give off), Dr. Light chose not to number it as 009 to 016; it might be possible that after the events of Mega Man 8, Dr. Light assumed Dr. Wily was presumed dead, given how there was no explanation as to what happened to Dr. Wily after Mega Man was contaminated by a dark energy source that Dr. Wily stole for his Robot Masters. So after a few years had passed, and Dr. Light created those MM9 Robot Masters, Dr. Wily returned and manipulated them to think Dr. Light wouldn't renew their warranties; because Dr. Wily that evil.

    • @MartenFerret
      @MartenFerret Год назад

      Didn't Wily make Serges (MMX2)?

    • @-originalLemon-
      @-originalLemon- 11 месяцев назад

      What about the dos games?

  • @amied7361
    @amied7361 Год назад +5

    To give wily credit he managed to weaponised sheep man who was created to look after sheep, getting tired easily and get destroyed by rubber, which is no easy task to weaponise a useless robot like him

  • @Pēm̐cā
    @Pēm̐cā Год назад +6

    Dr wily be kinda lazy 💀

  • @affsteak3530
    @affsteak3530 Год назад +5

    I've always loved how the Robot Master backstories in Mega Man 5 imply Wily was completely broke. The mental image of Gyro Man trying to collect admission to a park he just took over is hilarious.
    Also, WHY does your Robot Master Field Guide have a different cover than mine? I just have Mega Man and Rush! GARBAGE!!!

    • @JarateChop
      @JarateChop  Год назад +2

      I believe there was a different rendition (outside of the Updated Edition) of the book that I myself haven't seen but read others here bring up. This one my friend gifted me from one of their loot crates a couple years back.

  • @Victini7472
    @Victini7472 Год назад +7

    one thing i find confusing about mega man 11 is that block man says to light that "[he] built [him] rock solid!" EVEN though block man was manufactured by a different company entirely
    maybe light helped out? or better upgraded him (and maybe the other mm11 robot masters?) idk

    • @JoeyCannoli
      @JoeyCannoli Год назад +9

      I always thought that Dr. Light came up with the designs for all the MM11 Robot Masters and went on to commission the various robot manufacturers to actually build the Robot Masters based on the designs he sent them.

    • @Victini7472
      @Victini7472 Год назад +3

      @@JoeyCannoli oh, i didn't think of that, that's actually a really good explanation!

  • @mdudegamer
    @mdudegamer Год назад +10

    So he made (give or take depending on preference) 32 robot masters, eh? Now I wonder how many non-master robots he made. Some of the Wily Machines and other non-intelligent bosses are pretty impressive.

  • @Crobert24
    @Crobert24 Год назад +13

    I am super glad I've got this in my recommendations, was an entertaining one, and while I knew about most of the information, I wasn't still awarw of the numbers he made lol. Nontheless, Wily's intention of making Zero, may seems like a potential of him making Robot Masters in upcoming MegaMan Classic games if they will ever be real.
    On a different, you did mention that king created Burner man, Magic man and Ground man; I am pretty sure Ground man was created by King, but I do as well remember that he persuaded the other two to join him. I am not entirely sure with the sources that much, but I am not sure if it is true or not.

    • @Jann75
      @Jann75 Год назад

      Hey Crobat

  • @bigburkhart2293
    @bigburkhart2293 Год назад +8

    It makes sense when you consider that the whole DWN/DLN naming scheme is probably Wily's own internal Dewey Decimal ordering system.

  • @HarmonicVector
    @HarmonicVector Год назад +7

    In Wily's defense, given that he believes in Robot superiority over their servitude, him being more efficient by repairing other robots destined for the scrap heap (which implies there isn't a specialized proceedure for the dismantling of Robots) is in character for him.

  • @_mango_
    @_mango_ Год назад +5

    I willing to assume that the boss rushes in the Wily Castles are using rebuilt models of the original robots from scratch, meaning that Wily has not only replicated his own work perfectly, but has reverse engineered the work and technology of his contemporaries and even otherworldly robotics. Further evidence of this can be see with the Doc Robots in MM3. On top of his (re)programming and hacking capability and his own original robots, this feat justifies the DWN designation and exemplifies his genius and expertise in his field.
    Also, I’d like to believe that Dr. Light salvages and reprograms all robots after Wily’s defeats, so that’s why the DLNs pick up where Wily’s leave off.

    • @linhero797
      @linhero797 Год назад +3

      Makes perfect sense woth the exception of the DCN numbers being 24 short. As Wily didn't make MM4, 6, a few of 7 and 8's RMs.

    • @_mango_
      @_mango_ Год назад

      @@linhero797 very true

  • @Chaka2001
    @Chaka2001 Год назад +4

    😘luv u too bby, idk anything about mega man but HOLY that was a entertaining and funny video, my favorite part 10:10 of course.

  • @tffan1029
    @tffan1029 Год назад +8

    Pretty good video. I would have come up with that number of being in the 30s if someone were to come up to me and ask me how robot masters Dr. Wily made. I will say though, you missed Search Man from MM8. He was made by Wily under the pretext of building a combat robot with the efficiency of having two minds, and 2 heads. But, when Wily got confused and lost track about which head had which mindset, Wily ultimately gave up and finished Search Man into the robot we see in the game.

  • @gogovish
    @gogovish Год назад +6

    only 28 views on a video this good? now that is a crime

    • @JarateChop
      @JarateChop  Год назад

      OH NO YOU JINXED IT NOW LOOK AT ALL THESE viEWSsAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
      (thank you so much though! I really appreciate your support!)

    • @gogovish
      @gogovish Год назад +2

      @@JarateChop just as planned

  • @lpfan4491
    @lpfan4491 Год назад +12

    Wily has the full developer-experience of it being more practical to steal stuff and make it legally destinct through enough rewrites to what they are actually doing, lmao. The most legendary detail of it all is that his greatest creation(Zero) fell victim to a simple overflow-bug because he and the virus were made independantly without proper cross-reference and were only made compatible later on. And instead of actually fixing the issue, dude just slapped some failed overwrites and a controlshock on the package. Like, that kind of stuff legitimately sometimes happens in ware-development and it's always incredibly silly.

  • @FrenzyFanboy
    @FrenzyFanboy Год назад +10

    This channel deserves more love, I couldn’t imagine how much work was put in to make this video.

    • @JarateChop
      @JarateChop  Год назад +2

      Thank you, but you're giving me too much credit! It should have been uploaded a lot earlier than this if I didn't find other ways to distract myself lol.
      I appreciate you taking the time out of your day to watch!

  • @Mister100Percent
    @Mister100Percent Год назад +3

    3:00 appreciate this little moment reminding us how Powerup implied Roll had incestuous feelings for her brother Rock. Jesus Christ Japan.

  • @Its_PacFan
    @Its_PacFan Год назад +16

    One thing the updated editon of the Robot Master field guide has besides the inclusion of the MM11 Robots is that it states that Wily wasn't born in Osaka, Japan, but rather in North America
    But besides that, great video!

    • @yokai59loi36
      @yokai59loi36 Год назад +6

      You mean in the translation to America or in the Japanese version?

    • @peterjohnson11655
      @peterjohnson11655 Год назад +9

      both are wrong, if you've seen the ruby spears animated series (only canon piece of mega man content) you'd clearly see that dr wily is german

    • @autobotstarscream765
      @autobotstarscream765 Год назад +2

      Is that why the Light family lives in Texas according to the map in Mega Man 8?

    • @Its_PacFan
      @Its_PacFan Год назад +3

      @@autobotstarscream765 Basically. I dunno if it states Light was born in America as well or not because I don't own the book lol

    • @linhero797
      @linhero797 Год назад +3

      @@Its_PacFan It is pretty much a fact that Dr. Wily and Dr. Light are both American. It's a bit iffy in other languages but in Japan both are pretty much described as being American.

  • @INFERNO95
    @INFERNO95 Год назад +4

    I give him credit for 7 of the robots master from MM3. Bad enough shadow man is not one if his but I will not accept topman, magnet man and spark man not being built by him.
    I always thought that most of the robots after the fifth game were not made by him. Building robot master to fail can be tiresome along whit lack of money and power can be a problem too. So does what any villain would do and steal other people shit. Thank for making this video.

  • @marx4538
    @marx4538 Год назад +6

    The reason why the numbers continue is probably so it's like a card game, where the numbers keep going up with each game.

  • @xdfeverdream8122
    @xdfeverdream8122 Год назад +3

    You and everyone in this comments section so far forgot χ-Kai. .-.

    • @JarateChop
      @JarateChop  Год назад

      Ah, I can't believe I forgot about him! He is missing a serial code, but I should have still mentioned him.
      Damn, and I thought I was being thorough when adding Ra Thor. Thank you for posting this!

    • @xdfeverdream8122
      @xdfeverdream8122 Год назад

      @@JarateChop No problem I guess.

  • @neon_spotlight
    @neon_spotlight 24 дня назад +2

    My headcanon is that the Number code is basically just part of a sort of "Prime registry" For all robot masters ever, while the DL/DW part of the code is variable, determined by who currently has custody/programed the robot. Exceptions to this prime registry do exist though, when certain classes of bots like the star droids or mega man killers get their own unique lists.
    Further building on this, these registries are maintained not by the doctors, but instead by a governing body that monitors all these robots (Potentially the same one that enforces their expiration dates, and also had a hand in the tournament from MM6)

  • @BainesMkII
    @BainesMkII Год назад +3

    Who said Dr. Wily was numbering the stolen robots? Perhaps it was Dr. Light (and his support staff) who numbered them, and Light was ultimately tracking the robots working for Wily rather than who initially created said robots. The game can give the player robot ID numbers because it reflects Light providing those numbers to Mega Man, rather than Wily kindly providing product ID numbers.

  • @howdoilogin
    @howdoilogin Месяц назад +2

    I love the fact that this basically builds on Wily as a character. Because Wily canonically _suuuucks_ at programming. He can jailbreak anything, but he's terrible at making robots from scratch. Yet he excels at making weapons, which was the original reason he and Light collaborated: Light wanted to build robots, Wily wanted weapons, the government grant was large enough for them to compromise.
    Look at his first wave of robots: Metal Man was designed from Cut Man's blueprints but made to cut robots instead of trees. Heat Man was designed to incinerate robots instead of garbage. Bomb Man was designed for excavation but Crash Man's bombs were designed for drilling into, and blowing up, robots. Quick Man was built with Elec Man as a base to get his speed, and retroactively Flash Man's ability to stop time is an upgrade to Time Man's ability to slow it.
    There's also the fact that Mega Man 7 and Mega Man X came out and were in development very close together, and while not explicitly canon, it was a heavily _heavily_ accepted fan theory that during the point in MM7 when Bass breaks into Light's lab he steals the blueprints for X in order to make Zero. It's very unconvincing to believe that Wily _also_ made a robot with free will and a DNA soul at the exact same time as Light. And that's why the Maverick Virus and Zero's personality work so well with this theory; Wily sucked at programming. So he just dumped his brain into a computer program so he could hack Reploids after death. Zero may have been 'patient zero' for this but if he were made from stolen Light schematics it would make sense that he also chooses to fight Wily's legacy even without the decades of ethical testing X had to undergo.

  • @lukedelameter7961
    @lukedelameter7961 Месяц назад +2

    My personal thinking is that either the Number is defined by chief programmer (which Albert will naturally be when he reprograms and weaponizes robots) or/and that the numbers also include more general use robots like Sniper Joes, Auto and Eddie, and Mettaurs.

  • @Gecko1993HogheadIncOfficial
    @Gecko1993HogheadIncOfficial 4 месяца назад +2

    I love how you’re ignoring the fact Wily HIMSELF builds weapons of mass destruction rather than Robot Masters.
    He built the Wily Machine lineage of vehicles for him to pilot (also not counting his UFO), the Devil series of amorphic blobs & cybernetic assembloids in that order, sinister machinery within his Skull-clad facilities as he sees fit, and dare I ask: where does he get his funding from?
    I might have a theory... a CONSPIRACY Theory... but a theory nonetheless. Wily gets his funding laundered through Shadoloo-run by M. Bison as both series belong to Capcom, and are connected. Wily grovels for mercy, knowing he’s been blackmailed by M. Bison SOMEWHERE along the way in the early events of the MegaMan series. MegaMan HIMSELF doesn’t even know the truth Wily’s being blackmailed from said shady dealing from this organization that so happens to ALSO run The World Warrior tournament by means of Globalism.

  • @dragtogo2735
    @dragtogo2735 Год назад +3

    Knight Man is in "Europe" though questions on Central Europe if all the pieces were brought since the Flail is German/Central Europe weapon and the Mohawk Helmet is base on Greece.
    So this is why we'll never know exactly where in Europe though his Armor is literally the Flag of Europe Union.

  • @trinitroid7893
    @trinitroid7893 Год назад +5

    He may have made a few Robot Masters, but let's not forget he created one of the best soon-to-be Maverick Hunter in the X and Zero series.

  • @flameslinger8820
    @flameslinger8820 Год назад +4

    Besides being a catalog in universe, the numbers are also based on their literal creation in real life.
    Though this is odd in some instances, Ring man comes before Dust and Dive man because he was made in real life before they were for the game... but lore wise he was made specifically for combat, while Dust and Dive had industrial jobs before he was created. So in a lore sense it would be more sensible for Ring to be right before Skull as Second to last.
    Weird... but neat

  • @tytheghost3024
    @tytheghost3024 Год назад +5

    Yknow I woulda forgiven him for countless murders and terrorist attacks and we may have even become friends but plagiarism? Thats to far Wiley

    • @JarateChop
      @JarateChop  Год назад +1

      A very deplorable action indeed.

  • @BasementDweller_
    @BasementDweller_ 3 месяца назад +2

    Never understood why they never fixed the naming and numbering? Not of them should be labeled as DWN.

  • @zharziss
    @zharziss 3 месяца назад +2

    DWN stood for Dr. Wily Number? I always thought it just meant "drawing number", like a general robot blueprint numbering system.

  • @barrybend7189
    @barrybend7189 4 месяца назад +2

    I can see him reprogramming the identification codes to be his for anything involving his plans. Also only 23 are his because remember the Bass, Treble and Zero projects, those take resources.

  • @the3dluxe53
    @the3dluxe53 2 месяца назад +2

    My theory is that Wily inflates the numbers to make his army seem bigger than it is. Real militaries do this by skipping low serial numbers.

  • @burnsteel9746
    @burnsteel9746 Месяц назад +2

    How serious were you when you said the fates of the Mega Man 5 robot masters after the game.

  • @Dieselnaut16
    @Dieselnaut16 Год назад +5

    4:44 look at that sweet double 1up

    • @JarateChop
      @JarateChop  Год назад

      the mega man 4 giveth, and the mega man 4 taketh away

  • @arselcrusader5600
    @arselcrusader5600 Год назад +2

    My only takeaway from this video is that King is the best robot ever made, the guy made his own robots. Even the Robots of Megaman X7 couldn't make any and had to pursuade Axel back to Red's side

  • @ThisisTheUltimate
    @ThisisTheUltimate Год назад +2

    If we really needed an explanation on why the Robot Masters on Mega Man 9 that are DLN are in a number so high, instead of just accepting it because they wanted to make it look good continuing the numbers counting up... we could simply say that Dr. Light fixed and reprogrammed all the Robot Masters from the past games after the events of the games themselves, both the ones created and reprogrammed by Wily, so the Robot Masters in Mega Man 9 continues from the last number Light fixed, Aqua Man from Mega Man 8
    As for Wily having DWN for all the robots that Wily reprogrammed, their serial number goes to DWN, and continuing from his last robot, excluding Light's for some reason
    I also like the idea of MM4's Robot Masters being under DCN (Dr. Cossack Number) and MM6's Robot Masters being under MXN (Mister X Number), just like in Rockman Megamix

  • @joaonogueira3952
    @joaonogueira3952 Год назад +2

    Head cannon, DWL and DLN are just licences, like an MIT license, and anyone can register their robot under any license. They are sequential because they are indexed by number, regardless of manufacturer.

  • @eviljigglypuff2254
    @eviljigglypuff2254 8 месяцев назад +2

    Maybe the DWN numbers refer to programming, not necessarily the piece by piece manufacturing

  • @stardustkevin7322
    @stardustkevin7322 Год назад +2

    Ik the mega man megamix manga canon, alot of the robot masters that Aren't made by wily like dr.cossak's robot masters go by DCN: Dr cossak Number

  • @uastyrdzhii
    @uastyrdzhii Год назад +2

    Honestly I think Wily makes money by cybersquatting and pump and dump schemes, that's my new headcanon

  • @pinkertonbyweezer
    @pinkertonbyweezer Год назад +4

    ive never played a MegaMan game through entirely. I'm subscribing.

  • @myanimeroom9350
    @myanimeroom9350 Год назад +2

    You forgot about Treble/Gospel. You know, Bass's/Forte's wolf companion?

    • @JarateChop
      @JarateChop  Год назад

      He doesn't have a numerical code like "SWN-002," much like how Rush doesn't have a code. I apologize for skipping past him though.

  • @ZenoDLC
    @ZenoDLC Год назад +3

    What are numbers anyway? To me the DWN specifications are numbers that Wily uses as identifier for robots he uses, not make

  • @amied7361
    @amied7361 Год назад +2

    Wait in the cutscene it says dr light tundra man and others are his robot masters
    In the robot master gallery it says tundra man was made by Cossack
    But tundra man his also wily number

  • @pokkiheart
    @pokkiheart Год назад +2

    My understanding of the Megaman timeline is that Wily singlehandedly fucked up several centuries worth of human history so I think it's only fair he fucks up the classifications a bit and just makes everything severely complicated

  • @bluberrydee6205
    @bluberrydee6205 Год назад +4

    but how many of the dos masters did dr wily make HMMM

    • @JarateChop
      @JarateChop  Год назад +3

      You got me there! I have failed in my mission…

    • @bluberrydee6205
      @bluberrydee6205 Год назад +2

      @@JarateChop was genuinely curious so i checked out the megaman wiki
      According to the wiki the Megaman DOS 3 thing says "Legions of once peaceful robots have been mysteriously transformed into a horde of humanity-hating berserk droids!" so wily probably didnt make them (which is suspicious considering how similar to his own robots they look) but megaman dos 1 doesn't talk about the robot master's origins specifically so that one is still up in the air

  • @ararebeast
    @ararebeast Год назад +4

    Finally, someone brave enough to call Dr. Wily out on his academic plagiarism. Also Simpleflips jumpscare.

  • @frostgem8013
    @frostgem8013 Год назад +2

    How ironic that Wily went evil because he blamed Light for stealing his work, yet Wily himself steals from everyone else.

  • @claudiasolomon1123
    @claudiasolomon1123 8 месяцев назад +2

    He puts his name on others creations, so, he's like Elon Musk.

  • @linhero797
    @linhero797 Год назад +1

    I think the title DWN is not Wily's own number classification. But soet of a Criminal Code used for RMs that are later or currently known to be robots used by Dr. Wily. Sort of a criminal code of sorts, which marks certain robots to certain Dr. Wily. probably in the event Wily attempts to reuse old RMs, they have all their info on standby. And even if they have different numbers by their official creators. Like Needle Man probably has a DLN number that's in the low to mid 10s. But he's DWN. 017, which would not be possible for the DLNs as they Dr. Light only made 8 RMs previously.
    The reason for the use of the DLN for Mega Man 9 might have to do with the fact it's well known that Dr. Light is an old associate of Wily. And even was responsible for Mega Man 3's RMs attack by working with Wily to create them. (Even if Wily was deceiving Light)
    So, since Dr Light was implicated in Mega Man 9 they simply continued it with the DLN classification.
    Or, they simply have a list of RMs that have been used to take over the world and who was using them. Since Light was believed to be the one trying to take over the world they used the DLN classification. Both of these sre a little shakey though.

  • @jaykay8426
    @jaykay8426 Год назад +2

    Just wait till megaman 12 comes out, where there may be 12 more robot masters

  • @The_Troid
    @The_Troid Год назад +3

    and whats up with skull man and ring man? like those robot masters, since wily order cossack to build them wouldnt those be dwn?

    • @JarateChop
      @JarateChop  Год назад +1

      I tried to explain in the video, but I'm only counting those that he made himself. Since Wily ordered Dr. Cossack to build them, they were not made by Wily. I should have at least mentioned them in the Mega Man 4 segment though, so I apologize for skipping over them

  • @Sbungo61
    @Sbungo61 Год назад +3

    One could technically argue how Ring Man and Skull Man are kind of wily's belongings. If we go back to megaman 4, the cossack robots were all made for non combat purposes with those two exceptions. Ring Man is said to specifically be made to destroy megaman while Skullman is entirely made to be a combat robot. The fact that he's skull themed kind gives some hints as well. Also, wasn't Search Man specifically made by wily as well?

  • @xbvg
    @xbvg Год назад +2

    Di Wily is doing like Thomas Edison on robot masters instead of patent.

  • @edfreak9001
    @edfreak9001 Год назад +3

    i'm pretty sure Powered Up essentially replaces Mega Man 1 in the canon, they just didn't feel like reorganizing the numbering for Time and Oil so they did some weirdness by making them special and unique
    Edit: and while i'm sure various sources claim otherwise (you showed a wiki page that lists it as noncanon even) and it might even be the official stance that it's non-canon, it just doesn't make sense to count it as anything else- nothing about it contradicts what little was presented in megaman 1 or references to it besides the inclusion of Time and Oil (we don't count non-Mega Man playthrough dialogue as anything except showcasing personalities and the like, Fire Man is really Like That, but Fire Man did not resolve the incident)
    so unless the official stance is just "no this updated retelling of events is wrong and we refuse to canonize Time and Oil because of our funny number scheme" it just makes way more sense to assume PU is canon until something else proves otherwise
    also all this aside I feel like the numbering system isn't something used by either of them and is more just a public records thing... though that's reaching anyway since the only somewhat in-universe showing we have of the numbering system to begin with is the MM&B cds and the similar profiles from 11 (unless i'm missing something)
    I think this might just be some weirdness not unlike Marvel assigning universe numbers to random canons for licensed games or appearances of marvel characters in commercials and/or other properties (like, Marvel VS Capcom has it's own universe number despite knowing it'll never come up)

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 Год назад

      It's considered noncanon because even tho it doesn't contradict details unlike Maverick Hunter X, it is still not meant to go with MM2 and later. It is supposed to go with the cancelled MMPU2 and later. It was simply intended to be a diffrent continuity-line from the start.

  • @tengudwn57
    @tengudwn57 Год назад +3

    I need more content like this holy shit

  • @Megapig9001
    @Megapig9001 Год назад +1

    About to watch but this is a god tier thumbnail

  • @liamaye6922
    @liamaye6922 2 месяца назад +1

    “I’m crazy enough to take on mega man. But the copyright lawyers? No thank you.”
    -Dr. Wily, 200X

  • @agentblackbird9435
    @agentblackbird9435 4 месяца назад +1

    The MM6 robots most likely have special serial numbers, as Plant Man has one by his creator in the Archie Comics
    Also, Search Man from MM8 was made by Wily. He wanted a robot with 2 brains but failed, hence why Search Man seemingly talks to himself

  • @tehdrago
    @tehdrago 9 месяцев назад +1

    The Mega Man Robot Master Numbering Scheme if it *actually* made sense:
    The Light Number Series:
    DLN-000 - Proto Man
    DLN-001 - Mega Man
    DLN-002 - Roll
    DLN-003 - Cut Man
    DLN-004 - Guts Man
    DLN-005 - Ice Man
    DLN-006 - Bomb Man
    DLN-007 - Fire Man
    DLN-008 - Elec Man
    DLN-00A (technically 009) - Time Man
    DLN-00B (technically 010) - Oil Man
    DLN-011 - Shade Man
    DLN-012 - Clown Man
    DLN-013 - Dynamo Man
    DLN-014 - Cold Man
    DLN-015 - Concrete Man
    DLN-016 - Tornado Man
    DLN-017 - Splash Woman
    DLN-018 - Plug Man
    DLN-019 - Jewel Man
    DLN-020 - Hornet Man
    DLN-021 - Magma Man
    DLN-022 - Galaxy Man
    DLN-023 - Blade Man
    DLN-024 - Pump Man
    DLN-025 - Commando Man
    DLN-026 - Chill Man
    DLN-027 - Sheep Man
    DLN-028 - Strike Man
    DLN-029 - Nitro Man
    DLN-030 - Solar Man
    DLN-031 - Block Man
    DLN-??? - X
    The Wily Number Series:
    DWN-001 - Ra Thor
    DWN-002 - Metal Man
    DWN-003 - Air Man
    DWN-004 - Bubble Man
    DWN-005 - Quick Man
    DWN-006 - Crash Man
    DWN-007 - Flash Man
    DWN-008 - Heat Man
    DWN-009 - Wood Man (>:] nice)
    DWN-010 - Gravity Man
    DWN-011 - Wave Man
    DWN-012 - Stone Man
    DWN-013 - Gyro Man
    DWN-014 - Star Man
    DWN-015 - Charge Man
    DWN-016 - Napalm Man
    DWN-017 - Crystal Man
    DWN-018 - Junk Man
    DWN-019 - Spring Man
    DWN-020 - Slash Man
    DWN-021 - Turbo Man
    DWN-022 - Sword Man
    DWN-023 - Frost Man
    DWN-024 - Grenade Man
    DWN-025 - Search Man
    DWN-026 - Fake Man
    DWN-∞ - Zero
    DWN-??? - Rockman Shadow
    The *Special* Wily Series
    SWN-001 - Bass
    SWN-002 - King
    The Cossack Number Series:
    DCN-001 - Tundra Man
    DCN-002 - Bright Man
    DCN-003 - Toad Man
    DCN-004 - Drill Man
    DCN-005 - Pharaoh Man
    DCN-006 - Ring Man
    DCN-007 - Dust Man
    DCN-008 - Dive Man
    DCN-009 - Skull Man
    The Mega Man Killer/Wily Wars Number Series:
    MKN-000 (technically DLN-001) - Quint
    MKN-001 - Enker
    MKN-002 - Punk
    MKN-003 - Ballade
    WWN-001 - Buster Rod G
    WWN-002 - Mega Water S
    WWN-003 - Hyper Storm H
    The King Number Series:
    KGN-001 - Ground Man
    KGN-002 - Burner Man
    KGN-003 - Magic Man
    KGN-004 - Pirate Man
    The Special Service Numbers (MM3 Robots):
    SSN-001 - Spark Man
    SSN-002 - Snake Man
    SSN-003 - Needle Man
    SSN-004 - Hard Man
    SSN-005 - Top Man
    SSN-006 - Gemini Man
    SSN-007 - Magnet Man
    (arguably) SSN-008 - Shadow Man
    The Stardroid Series:
    SRN-001 - Terra
    SRN-002 - Mercury
    SRN-003 - Venus
    SRN-004 - Mars
    SRN-005 - Jupiter
    SRN-006 - Saturn
    SRN-007 - Uranus
    SRN-008 - Pluto
    SRN-009 - Neptune
    SRN-010 - Sunstar
    The following are Robot Masters that either have their own manufacturers or just don't have known builders, so i made a few names as filler:
    CRN-??? - Blizzard Man
    MLN-??? - Centaur Man
    IAFN-??? - Flame Man
    BAE-??? - Knight Man
    DAN-??? - Plant Man
    USSF-??? - Tomahawk Man
    JSFN-??? - Yamato Man
    CRI-??? - Wind Man
    CRI-??? - Tengu Man
    CRI-??? - Cloud Man
    TLN-??? - Freeze Man
    DSN-??? - Burst Man
    RRN-??? - Aqua Man
    DTN-??? - Astro Man
    ODA-??? - Fuse Man
    BBC-???- Blast Man
    MCIR-??? - Acid Man
    TPM-??? - Torch Man
    NHH-??? - Impact Man
    RRN-??? - Bounce Man
    ...now all that's left to answer is what the 20 extra robot masters' REAL numbers are.

  • @junkyardcrow1748
    @junkyardcrow1748 8 месяцев назад +1

    The Wily Numbers including including any he personally stole/modified reminds of Dr.Gero's (Dragon Ball) Jinzo Ningen series including androids, cyborgs, modified humans, re-animated corpses, and even HIMSELF. Different problems but similar strangeness, lol.

  • @SammySinner6
    @SammySinner6 Год назад +3

    I think its stated that Skull Man and Ring Man were made fully by wily

    • @JarateChop
      @JarateChop  Год назад +3

      Others in the comments have pointed this out as well. It depends on which sources you look at. The most of my research was done through the Field Guide and the MMKB wiki, which both say Cossack created them (possibly with the original designs by Wily, which would definitely make sense for Skull Man lol). But, I wouldn't take my list as definitive in the slightest though, as I'm sure there's plenty of other sources that are just as valid.

  • @MysticMike
    @MysticMike 11 месяцев назад +1

    For Mega Man 4 was it actually stated that Cossack really did make them? Wily could have made them for Cossack to use in the black mail.