#Transformers #Legacy #PulseCon Twitter: / thattoyguy101 Instagram @thattoyguy1011 This Is Why I Am Excited For The New Combiners - Transformers POTP Abominus Review
Common mistake people make with Hun-Grrr is that he's a retool of Silverbolt. Well, he's not. He happens to share the same transformation as him. The same can be said about the G2 Smokescreen figure and Energon Starscream or DOTM Roadbuster and AOE Lockdown. They both share the same design and transformation scheme, but they aren't retools of them. Just to clear that up.
Abominus might actually be my favorite CW styled combiner. It’s either him or Bruticus for me, though Bruticus is only a contender when he’s got the Prime Wars Blast-Off instead of the Combiner Wars one. Cutthroat and Sinnertwin are easily the weak links for me here. I’m lucky that my Cutthroat doesn’t have the QC issues with the bird head that plague a lot of copies of the figure, but even still, it’s just not a great mold. Suits him better than Swoop, but something just feels wrong about it. As for Sinnertwin, he just looks off. The mold doesn’t work for him OR Snarl in bot mode, though I think both beast modes are totally fine. The transformation of the legs is also really scary, but at least the Sinnertwin version of the mold doesn’t force me to pull on clear plastic to get it to work. Hun-Gurrr is fine. Shares a lot of engineering with Silverbolt, but I don’t care since that mold makes the best combiner torso out of any CW-style figure and it never feels like it gets in the way at all. Most of my issues with it are just the fact that it’s Hun-Gurrr. The color scheme doesn’t have as much magenta as I’d like and his overall design is a little basic but it’s completely accurate to how Hun-Gurr is supposed to look, it’s not really the fault of this particular figure, that’s just how the character looks in general. Blot and Rippersnapper absolutely slay. This is a fantastic mold and both of them wear it really well, with each of them highlighting the differences in their versions of the sculpt nicely. Transformations are fun, both modes look great, generally good quality all around. Where this set really works for me though is Abominus himself. It just looks so perfect, I couldn’t ask for a better generations update for him. All the limb bots work well as both arms and legs, which is nice, since some CW limb bots really only work well as one or the other (Heli mold is only good as an arm, Truck mold is only good as a leg, etc). Hun-Gurrr works incredibly well in torso mode, as the proportions are pleasing and the new stickers and chestplate really add a nice pop of colour. The head sculpt is perfect too. Pretty much my only complaint is that the hands aren’t pink, and that’s really minor. I love the way this set looks combined.
I've never heard any talk about mainline stuff cracking in so many places. Where are you getting your figures? It is so rare for me to see a crack in a mainline figure. They are meant to be handled by children, so they are usually pretty durable. I felt Abominus was at least as good as Defensor from CW, which was my favorite from that line. It had all the same good and bad points as most of the combiners from those lines.
I never liked the CW stuff, so I was overly hype when I heard they are going to properly do them all again. Hopefully they end up as impressive as the 86 dinobots have been
For the stunticons hasbro would have to use motormaster's trailer as the combiner component for the menousar. But the other combiners they'll probably do the same or similar things like they did with most of the combiners in CW and POTP.
We haven’t seen how legacy Dragstrip is engineered. It looks like getting him into arm mode will be genuinely well engineered. Can kinda see some inner worked engineering in his torso but without making them ugly like combiner wars or POTP.
I've actually been pretty happy with my Terrorcons/Abominus. I'll thoroughly agree that Blot is my favorite, and likewise agree Sinnertwin is rather weak. My opinion on Rippersnapper and Cutthroat, however, is entirely the opposite. Not that there's anything wrong with Rippersnapper, I just find him kinda boring. Cutthroat is just great though, I've had no QA issues with him and I quite like the mold (his counterpart Swoop happening to also be my favorite of the PoP Dinobots). I'll admit the Combiner Wars style figures all have some similar issues, especially in merged form. Feet that are too small, arms that are too long, but there is also something I find kind of appealing about these gorilla-like prepositions, a sort of animalistic furiousity that can make the combiners feal all the more dangerous, and especially on Abominus that seems all the more fitting.
I just don't get the people that say "It's good! You just have to buy the upgrade kit!"... Doesn't that mean that the toy is NOT GOOD in the first place? If you need to buy additional parts to make a toy work, doesn't that mean that the toy was bad to begin with? For a toy to be good it needs to be good on its own as soon as it comes out of the box!
Bruticus is my favorite combiner, but that CW one was weak. Torso mode was weird and even the fan modes weren’t solid enough. Brawl and Swindle were fine but really they all felt too small and flimsy. Really hoping we get voyager combaticons with a leader/commander onslaught On the other hand, I don’t know if I’ll want to replace my UW Superion. He’s got the 3rd party hands and feet and is just perfect
@@lithiumnoctua Yea same. My favourite combiner is Bruticus. However it’s disappointing that the both iterations (Fall of Cybertron and Combiner wars) were a huge let down.
The oversized KOs of theses guys where so much better than the real one . I had to do so much to the standard one with upgrades and making the joins stiff at least as much as I could . I hope they do a better job of the new ones but I do worry there doing these so close to the last ones
I love the bio for Sinnertwin. The fact that the two heads he has in his alt mode will argue with the other, I just love the concept of those two minds being one in robot mode. A concept of the left brain and the right brain not agreeing too much. Also, I got both the PotP versions and the Selects version. I haven't run into any QC issues so far, other then the looseness of Cutthroats alt mode heads little head piece. One thing I liked about the PotP version was how of all of the PotP Combiners, PotP Abominus was the only one that could conceal the Enigma of Combination. I am most likely going to skip the Legacy Stunticons, assuming they are not compatible with the Combiner Wars/Power of the Primes/Unite Warriors/Selects combiners, thus not a proper Scramble City type Combiner. Really hoping I'm wrong, and the Deluxes simply remain in Vehicle mode with the combiner peg sticking out and attached to Motormaster and his trailer.
I'm still waiting on my Rippersnapper to finish my Abominus - and I honestly really like the combiner even if mine's unfinished. BTW, Sinnertwin kept his name in POTP, didn't even need to add a "Terrorcon" in front of it.
Yyyeeessss!!! I just did my take on this set recently, so I’m dying to see a recent video on someone else’s take on them! Glad someone else posted this! Also, Sinnertwin was my favorite of the whole set! It was his actual name in the Combiner Wars set! 😁💯
I certainly love my copy! Even though they're pre-owned and missing Blot, they just look so good on the shelf. My only complaint would have to be Sinnertwin. Ripping his legs open everytime I transform him to robot mode scares me. Otherwise, not bad imo.
Good vid. Yeah, that up-grade does IMPROVE it's looks but last time I check it's 50 bucks unless it's been KO'ed. All that I know that's said to be coming down the pipe is Menasor - but if they do ever get around to A-bom again I HOPE they drastically improve him.
honestly i love this guy, my first complete combiner and i have so much fun with him. some of the joints are weak and/or wibbly, but the look is incredible imo
I actually like the starscream combiner. Though I wish they actually made more limb combiner starscream available outside of the Takara line But the lines over all could have been alot better
They just showed off Dragstrip for the new combiners. He looks a lot better than the CW one but he's only Deluxe scale. He should have been Voyager scale. The problem with the CW Combiners is that they are too small. They don't really seem that imposing when they are comprised of 4 Deluxe figures and one Voyager leader.
So the prevailing theory is that with motormaster being rumored to be a Commander Class figure, Menasor will just wear the 4 deluxe figures on pre-existing limbs ala the cartoon design.
@@rileymartin8284 Ok. That's how they cheated the scale with Menasor with the Masterpiece versions. Even with other Combiners like the Zeta Superion and Bruticus, they have a faux torso to increase the height of the combined mode. I'm not a huge fan of resorting to that but considering that the figures can't alter their size like their animated counterparts, I can deal with it. I hope Hasbro makes all the team leaders leader or commander class. Otherwise, there's no point in releasing these again if they are just going to improve the sculpts.
CW devastator really makes me hate how most of the other recent combiners are designed, sure he's pricier and has his own flaws but the extra bot and more even scale results in a nicer base figure.
I have this set and I adore it. But surprisingly, the G1 original combiner is more poseable and stable than the recent PotP one! Damn ragdoll joints...
I remember the first time we were introduced to the Terrorcons was in the Transformers season 3 episode 'Grimlock's New Brain' where in that same episode we were first introduced to the Technobots and I remember having the leader of the Terrorcons but I forgot what his name was until I heard it in this video and his name was HunGrr if that was how his name was pronounced or spelled.
So I got all the combiner wars combiners I could find after market at decent price. I like them for the most part but I am very hyped for the new stunticons, dragstrip looked so great. Even if I don't like their combined mode in the end the individual robot and car mode looked so good. I would really like to know the scale of the new combiners though. Will it scale with combiner wars regular gestalts or devastator and predaking? Would really like to know this.
the only combiner i have is volcanicus though incomplete. i substitute the last remaining 2 with my CW mirage and sunstreaker. the only combiner i wanna add is superion and bruticus. and im also excited for the new legacy when hasbro unveiled legacy dragstrip and that we may be getting a proper menasor this time and in a good scale
I love the terrorcons so much. If I could buy each toy of them I would. Even the third party ones. And I agree. I am excited to see what they do for new combiners going forward.
On the colors: I never had a problem with how they were painted. I love the colors for all! Hate the foil stickers though. I wound up using Kiki’s Fix Loose Joints to tighten them all! 😁
I am not going to do Combiners again, unless they are cheaper in price than the ones I have, because I know they will not be Scramble City/CW multi compatible.
For all the articulation the CW combiners have, none of it is very useful because of balance and weight. You're best off leaving it in a stand at attention or a standing A pose and leave it alone. Anything else is frustration and a ticking time bomb. The seacon combined mode is probably the worst CW combiner in terms of stability, but it also looks fantastic just standing there. That's the curse and blessing of the CW design. Can't wait for a new scramble city standard. That said you can improve the arm aesthetics of these combiners. Tick the arm one notch back, then bend the elbow(limb bot legs) so the arm is then in a 90 degree pose. With the upper arm already notched back this has the effect of shortening the arm and hiding the elbow legs. Really helps Abominus.
I understand the issues people have, but as a Huge fan of Combiners, I don't want them to do the same ones all over again. There are still a few combiners that haven't had modern updates yet. I'm skipping pretty much all of Legacy as none of it interests me so far. I'm Saving my money for MPG Raiden as that is going to be tough to complete. Even if the new Stunticons are better, I am satisfied with the UW version I have. They need to make Monstructor/Dinoking, Roadcaesar and Landcross etc. Heck Even Battle Gaia and Guard City would be easy CW repaints TT could release in their Selects line.
Same am huge fan of combiners, I miss out on the combiner wars set because no money but manage to get Optimus Prime and 4 others to combine with him, but what combiners are coming in this new set?
I love my Takara Abominus. Here is where I agreed in your review. Cutthroat's head falls off and it sucks. Abominus' hip joins are god awful and I will need to fix them soon so they don't damage over time. Everything else I feel is great. I love the colors (I have the accurate Hasbro Pulse / Takara repaint) and I really like most of the formers in both beast and robot mode. The fact you think Blot is a bad former just misses with me. Blot is one of my favorite of the 5 to display in either mode. So is Rippersnapper. To each is own, I guess.
From what I can see is that the generations selects version is G1 show accurate and the mass release is G1 toy accurate which is why it is missing color.
The POTP abominus combiner team had a few QC issues for me. The plastic for the foot/hand port on my rippersnapper broke the first time I tried to put a hand on it. Like almost every CW-style team, the joints in combined mode just aren’t strong enough to hold a pose beyond standing straight up. So, I keep them in a box.
The Combiner Wars combiners just don't hold together or pose well, but generally look great. The Takara one looks even better and hopefully doesn't come missing pieces (so common it's almost the gimmick of potp).
I like the combiner wars and potp but the one thing that always bugged me is that I got predaking so then I watched a review on him and he’s almost double the size of volcanicus and I just dont like that because these guys are supposed to be almost shoulder to shoulder
That’s more of a failing for Volcanicus. To me, PotP Predaking is perfectly scaled with every other combiner except Devastator, I mean, just take a look at the image used for Predaking on tfwiki. FYI, I find TFC Hercules to be perfectly scaled with these combiners. Slightly bigger then the scramble city types, but not too much bigger, and yes, mine still stands.
I’m actually picking all of these guys for Christmas (here’s some reasons) ripper snapper has the best stock photos out of the team in my opinion abominous is one of my favourite combiners and the terror-cons are pretty cool and it’s like the Dinobots but better in every way
I had theses along with the upgrade kits it helped the toy a lot but I don’t collect chug no more but for this toy to work you’ll need the up grade kit for combine mode
I just happened to be super lucky and super happy about it but my generation selects abominus actually has zero flaws with it it is the first and only perfect combiner I have.
The CW / UW combiners only looking good when they have upgrade kit on them. And those kits cost so much. I hope new hasbro combiners will have a good look that doesn't need or depend on upgrade kit.
I got the Generations Selects Abominus and I don't think I had any issues apart from Cutthroat who's bird head exploded and became incredibly loose after that and I'm amazed yours can stay up. Waiting for a decent priced PotP to replace it. Also something I noticed is that all the combiners, barring Menasor cannot stand up straight. Alongside Abominus I own King Poseidon and Bruticus.
I have CW Superion, Menasor, Bruticus, Defensor and Abominus. I'd put Superion and Abominus at the top (tie) ,then Bruticus/Defensor , and finally Menasor. With POTP Abominus, Cutthroats beast head kept coming off. I wish the combined hands and feet were a uniform color.
I have the Selects set and overall it's ok. Abominus' hip ratchets are much better, but the combiner ports still leave much to be desired. Hun-Gurrr's robot mode hands and feet are still loose. Cutthroat is somehow even worse, with fewer colors and the bird head and crest clearly suffer badly from mold wear and don't even fit together or attach to the rest of the toy properly. I sortof fixed it by boring out the attachment holes with a tiny drill bit (I forget the size) and reshaping the head slightly by dropping it into a glass of very hot water, so now it holds together at least but it's still prone to falling off.
These combiners showcase one of the big issues with making a combiner set. The size discrepancy between the torso and limb bots in their individual robot modes, vs their proportions when combined. Visually, as a team of individual bots; a voyager class torso and deluxe class limbs looks best in a group shot. However, when combined, it makes for some wonky proportions. The arms look too long, and the lower legs look too bulky compared to the thighs. For combined mode, a leader class torso works better with deluxe class limbs. I think that is why the third party companies have moved towards the combined mode using a separate main body that the other bots attach to; with the torso bot mostly hiding out in the hollowed out chest cavity. One of the hallmarks of this design is a lack of combiner ports on the limb bots. Since I don't see one on the promotional images for the upcoming Dragstrip toy; I have to assume that Hasbro is following the lead of the third party companies. I would be surprised if the Motormaster toy does not consist of a voyager scale robot that turns into the semi; with the box trailer transforming into the combined mode. The limb bots will then just clip onto the limbs of the combined mode, with the Motormaster toy slotting into the combined mode's back. Possibly it might form part of the actual combined mode. Maybe the upper chest and head; with the trailer making the arms, lower torso, and legs.
9:05 funnily enough the only two combiners I own are Superion and computron. Both with minor shows of wear. My silverbolt has seen better days. But yeh if you want my computron with hands and feet and the main gun (not the limb guns) Let me know. I'm down for a sale
Of course the only ones from this team I managed to get were Sinnertwin, and Cutthroat. My Cutthroat constantly breaks in two places on the monster thing head whenever I mess with him and all of his joints are stupidly loose and I dread doing anything with him ever, my Sinnertwin however, has no problems and for what he should be, he's not bad. I really don't like the Terrorcons that much anyway, so I don't care that much, but I feel your pain, still waiting on a version of my favorite combiner that actually has all the members and is actually good, my favorite combiner is Liokaiser. I'd only pay $30-$40 for the whole set to be honest. Even though it's the series I have to most toys from, the whole Prime Wars Trilogy is easily one of worst series ever in my opinion
I have more decepticons and then I do autobots mainly cause they usually have way more enjoyable gimmicks and designs. They feel less homogeneous to me then most of the autobots.
I have the same thing. I love individuals robots itself. But when they combine into Abominus that's when the figure looks weird. Plus it my second combiner. I'm wish I still had combaticons.
The Selects version doesn't have the fragile ports for connecting the hands and feet. And honestly, I don't think it has worse QC than the original. In my experience it was better than the POTP version, just not improved by as much as I'd hoped.
Most of the times you jave to do some repairs yourself. Easiest is to tighten the screws. Most of the Hasbro lines, the screws aren't scewed in all the way in. Lets hope the new Menasor will be dope.
I wouldn’t recommend Sky Reign. Sky Lynx had some funky QC issues if I recall, and the only limb that looked any good solo was Trailbreaker. Wheeljack looked sickly and didn’t have enough color on him, Smokescreen was Dead End AGAIN but all the details were paved over in blanket red, and Hound? …Well, okay, Hound was fine, just a bit too dark for my liking.
The QC (and others have probably mentioned it) sucks. The individual figures 'looked' nice but aside from Hun-gurr and Blot they were all dreadfully hollow. The Abominus head design here looked very weedy too - didn't scream 'Robot Barbarian' at all.
5:30 Dinobots,Dreadwind,and Blackwing:are we a joke to you Also I actually like the proportions of combiner wars combiners because they kinda remind me of the Hulkbuster from age of Ultron,in my opinion the upgrade kits I see people get to “fix” the proportions just make them look terrible.
Cutthroat & Sinnertwin (he's back to normal, it was the tiny Transformers Prime Beast Hunters version that'd renamed him as "Twinstrike") are unfortunately retools of PotP Swoop & Snarl respectively, and Blot is apparently a retool of Rippersnapper. Cutthroat being a Swoop retool is really very blatant, the transformation is the same, the general look is the same. And I take it that you probably didn't like Swoop, either. 😏😏😏 Takara Generation Selects, like their Unite Warriors stuff before it, has a paint job based on the show, whereas Hasbro Power of the Primes is done up like the G1 toys (and/or G2 too, in the case of Superion, Menasor, & Bruticus, who all have G2 color versions that were box sets). Naturally, Takara's will look better, it looks more like what you saw onscreen. Their Unite Warriors Computicon/Computron - build up the extra cash and hunt that version down, *TRUST ME* - even goes as far as ditching the proprietary fists & feet of Hasbro's Computron and giving different molds for three of the limbs!! Takara Lightspeed is a hefty retool of Wheeljack (Hasbro's is the shitty Streetwise version of the Deadend mold), Nosecone is a hefty retool of Rook (Hasbro's is that kinda shitty Brawl, also, Takara's first use of the Rook mold was as Wandering Roller from UW05 Grand Galvatron), and Strafe is a retool of Takara Blastoff (Hasbro's is a not too shabby retool of Airraid)!! The only real downer, again, is the use of the crappy hand/foot/guns, but the proprietary fists & feet WOULD make an appearance with UWEX Baldigus (aka Ruination, from RiD01).
I have all but Rippersnapper of this figure. I do agree with everything is said. Wish Hasbro took more care into their figures They do give u options to switch the arms and legs. I do not recommend cutthroat being. When u transform him back, there will be problems. Lost his bird head that way (probably why his used 1 didn't have) it)
i think i prefer the combiner wars scale and dont wanna redo all of my combiners in collection , so im definitely skipping the legacy combiners. especially when superion, bruticus, defensor ,computron and even abominus( in terms of looks ,with custom fixes he is quite good) is already good
This is very true. For all the articulation the CW combiners technically have, none of it is very useful. You're best off leaving it in a stand at attention or standing A pose and leave it alone. Even with the upgrade kits.
The upgrade kits from TCW is the one that I assume you are talking about, is a mess at best. The torso addons are clunky and change how hungurr's leggs sit. The abominus thighs are a mess as the addon there is held in by friction and hope. The kit does nothing to help the hip ratchets. It isn't bad by any means but for the price it isn't where it should be. I would suggest Defensor for the CW combiners if you can find a C+ Custom kit for it.
The entire critique in the beginning of this video is ridiculous because these figures work entirely based on the generation toys, I mean that's the whole entire point, to appeal to the original toys, and on second where the hell is he getting his figures from I've had mine for about 4 years now and they're in perfect condition with not a loose joint or a single scratch, what the hell is he doing throwing his figures around like dog toys 😂
As much as I love Abominus, man am I disappointed and dissatisfied with the Takara Selects release. I’m really upset I paid $200 USD on it. I don’t have nearly as many QC issues on the POTP set ironically. Sinnertwin’s combiner peg has a messed up ratchet so the combiner limb is unstable. Blot has a bad stress mark on his 5mm port for combined mode. Cutthroat’s beast head just crumbles if I look at it wrong and his legs don’t tab together. And last but not least HunGurr has some solid sounding ratchets but then when combined the gestalt just buckles forward and faceplants. I think the Seacons (both versions) had very similar issues but at least Nautilator makes a good crutch.
Abominus was the first combiner I ever got, and they were what got me into transformers, these guys will always hold a special place in my heart
Common mistake people make with Hun-Grrr is that he's a retool of Silverbolt. Well, he's not. He happens to share the same transformation as him. The same can be said about the G2 Smokescreen figure and Energon Starscream or DOTM Roadbuster and AOE Lockdown. They both share the same design and transformation scheme, but they aren't retools of them. Just to clear that up.
You just defined 'retool' in claiming that a retool isn't a retool.
@@caffeinedelusions Depends on if the tooling was changed, or if the design was made in cad?
@@caffeinedelusions Hun-grrr isn’t a retool, he’s a new mold.
He definitely is a retool. Unless remolds and retools are different.
@@Quantum_Magnus He is different, they are similar due to being designed by the same person.
Quick bit of advice:
*Its not paint chipping, it’s battle damage.*
Abominus might actually be my favorite CW styled combiner. It’s either him or Bruticus for me, though Bruticus is only a contender when he’s got the Prime Wars Blast-Off instead of the Combiner Wars one.
Cutthroat and Sinnertwin are easily the weak links for me here. I’m lucky that my Cutthroat doesn’t have the QC issues with the bird head that plague a lot of copies of the figure, but even still, it’s just not a great mold. Suits him better than Swoop, but something just feels wrong about it. As for Sinnertwin, he just looks off. The mold doesn’t work for him OR Snarl in bot mode, though I think both beast modes are totally fine. The transformation of the legs is also really scary, but at least the Sinnertwin version of the mold doesn’t force me to pull on clear plastic to get it to work.
Hun-Gurrr is fine. Shares a lot of engineering with Silverbolt, but I don’t care since that mold makes the best combiner torso out of any CW-style figure and it never feels like it gets in the way at all. Most of my issues with it are just the fact that it’s Hun-Gurrr. The color scheme doesn’t have as much magenta as I’d like and his overall design is a little basic but it’s completely accurate to how Hun-Gurr is supposed to look, it’s not really the fault of this particular figure, that’s just how the character looks in general.
Blot and Rippersnapper absolutely slay. This is a fantastic mold and both of them wear it really well, with each of them highlighting the differences in their versions of the sculpt nicely. Transformations are fun, both modes look great, generally good quality all around.
Where this set really works for me though is Abominus himself. It just looks so perfect, I couldn’t ask for a better generations update for him. All the limb bots work well as both arms and legs, which is nice, since some CW limb bots really only work well as one or the other (Heli mold is only good as an arm, Truck mold is only good as a leg, etc). Hun-Gurrr works incredibly well in torso mode, as the proportions are pleasing and the new stickers and chestplate really add a nice pop of colour. The head sculpt is perfect too. Pretty much my only complaint is that the hands aren’t pink, and that’s really minor. I love the way this set looks combined.
I've never heard any talk about mainline stuff cracking in so many places. Where are you getting your figures? It is so rare for me to see a crack in a mainline figure. They are meant to be handled by children, so they are usually pretty durable. I felt Abominus was at least as good as Defensor from CW, which was my favorite from that line. It had all the same good and bad points as most of the combiners from those lines.
RUclipsrs are just unlucky.
I never liked the CW stuff, so I was overly hype when I heard they are going to properly do them all again. Hopefully they end up as impressive as the 86 dinobots have been
Where did you hear they’re doing them again??????
For the stunticons hasbro would have to use motormaster's trailer as the combiner component for the menousar.
But the other combiners they'll probably do the same or similar things like they did with most of the combiners in CW and POTP.
We haven’t seen how legacy Dragstrip is engineered. It looks like getting him into arm mode will be genuinely well engineered.
Can kinda see some inner worked engineering in his torso but without making them ugly like combiner wars or POTP.
@@strikemist uhhhh they just announced a Dragstrip dude.
I hope they do the popular combiners with legacy like bruticus, devastator, king Poseidon all those
I've actually been pretty happy with my Terrorcons/Abominus. I'll thoroughly agree that Blot is my favorite, and likewise agree Sinnertwin is rather weak. My opinion on Rippersnapper and Cutthroat, however, is entirely the opposite. Not that there's anything wrong with Rippersnapper, I just find him kinda boring. Cutthroat is just great though, I've had no QA issues with him and I quite like the mold (his counterpart Swoop happening to also be my favorite of the PoP Dinobots).
I'll admit the Combiner Wars style figures all have some similar issues, especially in merged form. Feet that are too small, arms that are too long, but there is also something I find kind of appealing about these gorilla-like prepositions, a sort of animalistic furiousity that can make the combiners feal all the more dangerous, and especially on Abominus that seems all the more fitting.
I just don't get the people that say "It's good! You just have to buy the upgrade kit!"...
Doesn't that mean that the toy is NOT GOOD in the first place?
If you need to buy additional parts to make a toy work, doesn't that mean that the toy was bad to begin with?
For a toy to be good it needs to be good on its own as soon as it comes out of the box!
The upgrade kits do make them look better, but they don't fix the balance issues inherent in the CW design.
The only winners from this style of combiner for me are Bruticus, Superion, and Defensor
Bruticus is my favorite combiner, but that CW one was weak. Torso mode was weird and even the fan modes weren’t solid enough. Brawl and Swindle were fine but really they all felt too small and flimsy. Really hoping we get voyager combaticons with a leader/commander onslaught
On the other hand, I don’t know if I’ll want to replace my UW Superion. He’s got the 3rd party hands and feet and is just perfect
What about menasor
@@lithiumnoctua Yea same. My favourite combiner is Bruticus. However it’s disappointing that the both iterations (Fall of Cybertron and Combiner wars) were a huge let down.
@@WesleytheIV he’s terrible
Generations Selects Pirannacon. That is the true winner from that style.
The oversized KOs of theses guys where so much better than the real one . I had to do so much to the standard one with upgrades and making the joins stiff at least as much as I could . I hope they do a better job of the new ones but I do worry there doing these so close to the last ones
I love the bio for Sinnertwin. The fact that the two heads he has in his alt mode will argue with the other, I just love the concept of those two minds being one in robot mode. A concept of the left brain and the right brain not agreeing too much. Also, I got both the PotP versions and the Selects version. I haven't run into any QC issues so far, other then the looseness of Cutthroats alt mode heads little head piece. One thing I liked about the PotP version was how of all of the PotP Combiners, PotP Abominus was the only one that could conceal the Enigma of Combination.
I am most likely going to skip the Legacy Stunticons, assuming they are not compatible with the Combiner Wars/Power of the Primes/Unite Warriors/Selects combiners, thus not a proper Scramble City type Combiner. Really hoping I'm wrong, and the Deluxes simply remain in Vehicle mode with the combiner peg sticking out and attached to Motormaster and his trailer.
I'm still waiting on my Rippersnapper to finish my Abominus - and I honestly really like the combiner even if mine's unfinished.
BTW, Sinnertwin kept his name in POTP, didn't even need to add a "Terrorcon" in front of it.
Yyyeeessss!!! I just did my take on this set recently, so I’m dying to see a recent video on someone else’s take on them! Glad someone else posted this! Also, Sinnertwin was my favorite of the whole set! It was his actual name in the Combiner Wars set! 😁💯
I certainly love my copy! Even though they're pre-owned and missing Blot, they just look so good on the shelf. My only complaint would have to be Sinnertwin. Ripping his legs open everytime I transform him to robot mode scares me. Otherwise, not bad imo.
Good vid. Yeah, that up-grade does IMPROVE it's looks but last time I check it's 50 bucks unless it's been KO'ed. All that I know that's said to be coming down the pipe is Menasor - but if they do ever get around to A-bom again I HOPE they drastically improve him.
honestly i love this guy, my first complete combiner and i have so much fun with him. some of the joints are weak and/or wibbly, but the look is incredible imo
I actually like the starscream combiner.
Though I wish they actually made more limb combiner starscream available outside of the Takara line
But the lines over all could have been alot better
They did. Ever heard of the Shattered Glass Starscream from the TFCC Subscription Service?
They just showed off Dragstrip for the new combiners. He looks a lot better than the CW one but he's only Deluxe scale. He should have been Voyager scale. The problem with the CW Combiners is that they are too small. They don't really seem that imposing when they are comprised of 4 Deluxe figures and one Voyager leader.
So the prevailing theory is that with motormaster being rumored to be a Commander Class figure, Menasor will just wear the 4 deluxe figures on pre-existing limbs ala the cartoon design.
@@rileymartin8284 Ok. That's how they cheated the scale with Menasor with the Masterpiece versions. Even with other Combiners like the Zeta Superion and Bruticus, they have a faux torso to increase the height of the combined mode. I'm not a huge fan of resorting to that but considering that the figures can't alter their size like their animated counterparts, I can deal with it. I hope Hasbro makes all the team leaders leader or commander class. Otherwise, there's no point in releasing these again if they are just going to improve the sculpts.
CW devastator really makes me hate how most of the other recent combiners are designed, sure he's pricier and has his own flaws but the extra bot and more even scale results in a nicer base figure.
One combiner I still hope to get one day is Unite Warriors Baldigus.
I have this set and I adore it. But surprisingly, the G1 original combiner is more poseable and stable than the recent PotP one! Damn ragdoll joints...
I remember the first time we were introduced to the Terrorcons was in the Transformers season 3 episode 'Grimlock's New Brain' where in that same episode we were first introduced to the Technobots and I remember having the leader of the Terrorcons but I forgot what his name was until I heard it in this video and his name was HunGrr if that was how his name was pronounced or spelled.
So I got all the combiner wars combiners I could find after market at decent price. I like them for the most part but I am very hyped for the new stunticons, dragstrip looked so great. Even if I don't like their combined mode in the end the individual robot and car mode looked so good. I would really like to know the scale of the new combiners though. Will it scale with combiner wars regular gestalts or devastator and predaking? Would really like to know this.
Ooh, a review of a figure I have
the only combiner i have is volcanicus though incomplete. i substitute the last remaining 2 with my CW mirage and sunstreaker. the only combiner i wanna add is superion and bruticus. and im also excited for the new legacy when hasbro unveiled legacy dragstrip and that we may be getting a proper menasor this time and in a good scale
I love the terrorcons so much. If I could buy each toy of them I would. Even the third party ones. And I agree. I am excited to see what they do for new combiners going forward.
On the colors: I never had a problem with how they were painted. I love the colors for all! Hate the foil stickers though. I wound up using Kiki’s Fix Loose Joints to tighten them all! 😁
I am not going to do Combiners again, unless they are cheaper in price than the ones I have, because I know they will not be Scramble City/CW multi compatible.
Your new puppy is adorable and I hope they make some more appearances!
I'm very glad having CW Superion with tight joints.
Haesh man, I have the POTP version and the Ayoi upscale KO. Both are very nicely done.
Aw these guys will always have a special place in my heart.
For all the articulation the CW combiners have, none of it is very useful because of balance and weight. You're best off leaving it in a stand at attention or a standing A pose and leave it alone. Anything else is frustration and a ticking time bomb. The seacon combined mode is probably the worst CW combiner in terms of stability, but it also looks fantastic just standing there. That's the curse and blessing of the CW design. Can't wait for a new scramble city standard.
That said you can improve the arm aesthetics of these combiners. Tick the arm one notch back, then bend the elbow(limb bot legs) so the arm is then in a 90 degree pose. With the upper arm already notched back this has the effect of shortening the arm and hiding the elbow legs. Really helps Abominus.
If someone doesn’t mind the weird proportions or the lack of good posing do you think it’s worth it?
I think so!! Hes the only combiner I actually display
Honestly, yeah. He's likely the only Abominus we'll get for another 20 years or so.
Too Bad potp and cw figures have gotten incredibly explosive nowadays. I still wanna get myself a propper blast off
I understand the issues people have, but as a Huge fan of Combiners, I don't want them to do the same ones all over again. There are still a few combiners that haven't had modern updates yet. I'm skipping pretty much all of Legacy as none of it interests me so far. I'm Saving my money for MPG Raiden as that is going to be tough to complete. Even if the new Stunticons are better, I am satisfied with the UW version I have. They need to make Monstructor/Dinoking, Roadcaesar and Landcross etc. Heck Even Battle Gaia and Guard City would be easy CW repaints TT could release in their Selects line.
Same am huge fan of combiners, I miss out on the combiner wars set because no money but manage to get Optimus Prime and 4 others to combine with him, but what combiners are coming in this new set?
Sky Reign w/ G2 Aerial Bots limbs is great. Now if only there had been KO hand/foot sets based on PEs Volcanicus kit.
I love my Takara Abominus. Here is where I agreed in your review. Cutthroat's head falls off and it sucks. Abominus' hip joins are god awful and I will need to fix them soon so they don't damage over time.
Everything else I feel is great. I love the colors (I have the accurate Hasbro Pulse / Takara repaint) and I really like most of the formers in both beast and robot mode. The fact you think Blot is a bad former just misses with me. Blot is one of my favorite of the 5 to display in either mode. So is Rippersnapper. To each is own, I guess.
The only POTP figure I have is sharpshot (shrapnel, I prefer his FOC name) it’s decent but not the best.
FWIW, the Perfect Effects Perfect Combiner hands and feet do make the CW combiner proportions MUCH easier to deal with.
This is the second best CW/POTP combiner in my collection. (The first is obviously Devastator)
From what I can see is that the generations selects version is G1 show accurate and the mass release is G1 toy accurate which is why it is missing color.
The POTP abominus combiner team had a few QC issues for me. The plastic for the foot/hand port on my rippersnapper broke the first time I tried to put a hand on it.
Like almost every CW-style team, the joints in combined mode just aren’t strong enough to hold a pose beyond standing straight up.
So, I keep them in a box.
my saddest thing is that my rippersnapper's legs can't tab in at all. pain
The Combiner Wars combiners just don't hold together or pose well, but generally look great. The Takara one looks even better and hopefully doesn't come missing pieces (so common it's almost the gimmick of potp).
I like the combiner wars and potp but the one thing that always bugged me is that I got predaking so then I watched a review on him and he’s almost double the size of volcanicus and I just dont like that because these guys are supposed to be almost shoulder to shoulder
That’s more of a failing for Volcanicus. To me, PotP Predaking is perfectly scaled with every other combiner except Devastator, I mean, just take a look at the image used for Predaking on tfwiki.
FYI, I find TFC Hercules to be perfectly scaled with these combiners. Slightly bigger then the scramble city types, but not too much bigger, and yes, mine still stands.
@@puttster3 yeah
I’m actually picking all of these guys for Christmas (here’s some reasons)
ripper snapper has the best stock photos out of the team in my opinion
abominous is one of my favourite combiners and the terror-cons are pretty cool
and it’s like the Dinobots but better in every way
I had theses along with the upgrade kits it helped the toy a lot but I don’t collect chug no more but for this toy to work you’ll need the up grade kit for combine mode
I just happened to be super lucky and super happy about it but my generation selects abominus actually has zero flaws with it it is the first and only perfect combiner I have.
The CW / UW combiners only looking good when they have upgrade kit on them. And those kits cost so much. I hope new hasbro combiners will have a good look that doesn't need or depend on upgrade kit.
If liking POTP Abominus, and just the Combiner Wars line in general (POTP included), is a hill to die on...
Find me at the peak.
Mind if I join you there?
@@lyokomajor for sure!
I was going to buy abominus so computron has a rival but after seeing this video I might just get LeoKaiser
I got the Generations Selects Abominus and I don't think I had any issues apart from Cutthroat who's bird head exploded and became incredibly loose after that and I'm amazed yours can stay up. Waiting for a decent priced PotP to replace it. Also something I noticed is that all the combiners, barring Menasor cannot stand up straight. Alongside Abominus I own King Poseidon and Bruticus.
I have CW Superion, Menasor, Bruticus, Defensor and Abominus. I'd put Superion and Abominus at the top (tie) ,then Bruticus/Defensor , and finally Menasor. With POTP Abominus, Cutthroats beast head kept coming off. I wish the combined hands and feet were a uniform color.
I have the Selects set and overall it's ok. Abominus' hip ratchets are much better, but the combiner ports still leave much to be desired. Hun-Gurrr's robot mode hands and feet are still loose. Cutthroat is somehow even worse, with fewer colors and the bird head and crest clearly suffer badly from mold wear and don't even fit together or attach to the rest of the toy properly. I sortof fixed it by boring out the attachment holes with a tiny drill bit (I forget the size) and reshaping the head slightly by dropping it into a glass of very hot water, so now it holds together at least but it's still prone to falling off.
I onlyhave cutthroat and Rippersnapper. Can't wait to have get the other 3.
That is so cool and awesome
These combiners showcase one of the big issues with making a combiner set. The size discrepancy between the torso and limb bots in their individual robot modes, vs their proportions when combined. Visually, as a team of individual bots; a voyager class torso and deluxe class limbs looks best in a group shot. However, when combined, it makes for some wonky proportions. The arms look too long, and the lower legs look too bulky compared to the thighs. For combined mode, a leader class torso works better with deluxe class limbs. I think that is why the third party companies have moved towards the combined mode using a separate main body that the other bots attach to; with the torso bot mostly hiding out in the hollowed out chest cavity. One of the hallmarks of this design is a lack of combiner ports on the limb bots. Since I don't see one on the promotional images for the upcoming Dragstrip toy; I have to assume that Hasbro is following the lead of the third party companies. I would be surprised if the Motormaster toy does not consist of a voyager scale robot that turns into the semi; with the box trailer transforming into the combined mode. The limb bots will then just clip onto the limbs of the combined mode, with the Motormaster toy slotting into the combined mode's back. Possibly it might form part of the actual combined mode. Maybe the upper chest and head; with the trailer making the arms, lower torso, and legs.
Other companies like zeta and ms-toys can do it.
Its gonna cost alot more than the hasbro prices though
9:05 funnily enough the only two combiners I own are Superion and computron. Both with minor shows of wear. My silverbolt has seen better days. But yeh if you want my computron with hands and feet and the main gun (not the limb guns) Let me know. I'm down for a sale
I got volcanicus from power of the primes and I love it so much, I only wish I bought the upgrade pack when it was for sale.
Of course the only ones from this team I managed to get were Sinnertwin, and Cutthroat. My Cutthroat constantly breaks in two places on the monster thing head whenever I mess with him and all of his joints are stupidly loose and I dread doing anything with him ever, my Sinnertwin however, has no problems and for what he should be, he's not bad. I really don't like the Terrorcons that much anyway, so I don't care that much, but I feel your pain, still waiting on a version of my favorite combiner that actually has all the members and is actually good, my favorite combiner is Liokaiser. I'd only pay $30-$40 for the whole set to be honest. Even though it's the series I have to most toys from, the whole Prime Wars Trilogy is easily one of worst series ever in my opinion
Defensor and Superion were easily the best in my opinion, where others just had some neat parts like Blot or the red Stunticon car.
I have more decepticons and then I do autobots mainly cause they usually have way more enjoyable gimmicks and designs. They feel less homogeneous to me then most of the autobots.
I have the same thing. I love individuals robots itself. But when they combine into Abominus that's when the figure looks weird. Plus it my second combiner. I'm wish I still had combaticons.
The Selects version doesn't have the fragile ports for connecting the hands and feet.
And honestly, I don't think it has worse QC than the original. In my experience it was better than the POTP version, just not improved by as much as I'd hoped.
my potp abominus is really good I had no problems with it except for cutthroats bird head
Abominus is my favorite and I spent way to much on it but I don’t regret it
Most of the times you jave to do some repairs yourself. Easiest is to tighten the screws. Most of the Hasbro lines, the screws aren't scewed in all the way in. Lets hope the new Menasor will be dope.
I wouldn’t recommend Sky Reign. Sky Lynx had some funky QC issues if I recall, and the only limb that looked any good solo was Trailbreaker. Wheeljack looked sickly and didn’t have enough color on him, Smokescreen was Dead End AGAIN but all the details were paved over in blanket red, and Hound? …Well, okay, Hound was fine, just a bit too dark for my liking.
used to have these guys, I found them disappointing as well but it sucks bc there's not another option for Abominus
The QC (and others have probably mentioned it) sucks. The individual figures 'looked' nice but aside from Hun-gurr and Blot they were all dreadfully hollow. The Abominus head design here looked very weedy too - didn't scream 'Robot Barbarian' at all.
Rippersnapper is the only one I own and I love it!
They better come to Ireland.
The third party Abominus is just a thing of glory. I think TFC made the group? I just love the big beast
5:30 Dinobots,Dreadwind,and Blackwing:are we a joke to you
Also I actually like the proportions of combiner wars combiners because they kinda remind me of the Hulkbuster from age of Ultron,in my opinion the upgrade kits I see people get to “fix” the proportions just make them look terrible.
I love Abominus, my favorite combiner I own
Very good and fun set.
Cutthroat & Sinnertwin (he's back to normal, it was the tiny Transformers Prime Beast Hunters version that'd renamed him as "Twinstrike") are unfortunately retools of PotP Swoop & Snarl respectively, and Blot is apparently a retool of Rippersnapper. Cutthroat being a Swoop retool is really very blatant, the transformation is the same, the general look is the same. And I take it that you probably didn't like Swoop, either. 😏😏😏
Takara Generation Selects, like their Unite Warriors stuff before it, has a paint job based on the show, whereas Hasbro Power of the Primes is done up like the G1 toys (and/or G2 too, in the case of Superion, Menasor, & Bruticus, who all have G2 color versions that were box sets). Naturally, Takara's will look better, it looks more like what you saw onscreen. Their Unite Warriors Computicon/Computron - build up the extra cash and hunt that version down, *TRUST ME* - even goes as far as ditching the proprietary fists & feet of Hasbro's Computron and giving different molds for three of the limbs!! Takara Lightspeed is a hefty retool of Wheeljack (Hasbro's is the shitty Streetwise version of the Deadend mold), Nosecone is a hefty retool of Rook (Hasbro's is that kinda shitty Brawl, also, Takara's first use of the Rook mold was as Wandering Roller from UW05 Grand Galvatron), and Strafe is a retool of Takara Blastoff (Hasbro's is a not too shabby retool of Airraid)!! The only real downer, again, is the use of the crappy hand/foot/guns, but the proprietary fists & feet WOULD make an appearance with UWEX Baldigus (aka Ruination, from RiD01).
My first cutthroat Snapped off break before.
I have all but Rippersnapper of this figure.
I do agree with everything is said. Wish Hasbro took more care into their figures
They do give u options to switch the arms and legs. I do not recommend cutthroat being. When u transform him back, there will be problems. Lost his bird head that way (probably why his used 1 didn't have) it)
What is your opinion on the Predaking combiner?
Mmmmm! That Devastator!
The Shoulder on my Hun-Gerr ratchet broke. :(
I have always LOVED combiners. Sadly, I am passed my time of collecting 😪 😔 😢
i think i prefer the combiner wars scale and dont wanna redo all of my combiners in collection , so im definitely skipping the legacy combiners. especially when superion, bruticus, defensor ,computron and even abominus( in terms of looks ,with custom fixes he is quite good) is already good
The upgrade set doesn't help the waist/thigh problem only worsens in my opinion but it looks better so make of that what you will
This is very true. For all the articulation the CW combiners technically have, none of it is very useful. You're best off leaving it in a stand at attention or standing A pose and leave it alone. Even with the upgrade kits.
@@pittsburghboyertown3821 and dont look at lt or it will fall over
there was allso that battletrap (battle slash and road trap) from power of the primes
If there is a god we'll get a new monstructor!
the pegs on my rippersnapper's legs don't tab in anymore so he's really floppy now so be careful about that
My favorite figure is Blot too!
What is your opinion on the Beast combiner?
4:14 NOOOOOOO KEVIN!
Bruticus is cool, too
I'm thinking of getting cutthroat to customize into a lazerbeak
Which figures from Power of the Primes do you find unenjoyable?
Wait, there's new combiners coming out?
The upgrade kits from TCW is the one that I assume you are talking about, is a mess at best. The torso addons are clunky and change how hungurr's leggs sit. The abominus thighs are a mess as the addon there is held in by friction and hope. The kit does nothing to help the hip ratchets. It isn't bad by any means but for the price it isn't where it should be. I would suggest Defensor for the CW combiners if you can find a C+ Custom kit for it.
The entire critique in the beginning of this video is ridiculous because these figures work entirely based on the generation toys, I mean that's the whole entire point, to appeal to the original toys, and on second where the hell is he getting his figures from I've had mine for about 4 years now and they're in perfect condition with not a loose joint or a single scratch, what the hell is he doing throwing his figures around like dog toys 😂
You're treating cutthroat like she's meg from family guy
As much as I love Abominus, man am I disappointed and dissatisfied with the Takara Selects release. I’m really upset I paid $200 USD on it. I don’t have nearly as many QC issues on the POTP set ironically. Sinnertwin’s combiner peg has a messed up ratchet so the combiner limb is unstable. Blot has a bad stress mark on his 5mm port for combined mode. Cutthroat’s beast head just crumbles if I look at it wrong and his legs don’t tab together. And last but not least HunGurr has some solid sounding ratchets but then when combined the gestalt just buckles forward and faceplants. I think the Seacons (both versions) had very similar issues but at least Nautilator makes a good crutch.
You think prime and hot rod are the best potp has to offer? Do you even transformer, bro?