@@DavesGarageuk bless you dave ,,,,your unreal with the skill sett that you have will give so many at home the confidence to maybe have a go them selves ,,,,best thing is you give me that confidence ,as I've learnt so much from you already
Not a criticism, more of a tip. When you panel wipe, have a second cloth to wipe of the residue before it dries, also wear nitrile type gloves to stop grease/salt from you fingers from getting on the panel. If you leave the residue or finger contamination before you etch prime, you run the risk of the etch lifting from the panel when you put the next coat of primer on, as the solvent content can dissolve the etch primer causing you problems down the line (especially as you are using a rattle can which has a high thinners content).
I'm sure its complicated on your side of the camera, but from this side you are making it look really easy. Did you notice that the other videos on this subject that you probably watched in preparation for your own attempt gave you very little help, as all the real head scratching and planning your way through the multiple issues that arrise were not filmed or discussed. Your approach to filming these videos is spot on, as without the detail and developement of a plan to deal with the problems, you might just as well show a before and after photo. As someone else has said below, keep doing what you are doing! I for one was hoping it was going to be a 3hr episode!! 🤣
Dave, the best way of replicating the inner Tub to fabricate the Outer tub is to remove all the sealer which reveals the Overlap of these panels, insert grinder/cut into outer tub resting your Grinder disc against the Inner tub to follow it's factory shape, use a large cardboard section to push into the Grinder cut & trace with a Sharpie. ideally you should transfer this Cardboard cutting onto another piece of cardboard to reveal a True shape of the inner arch & site through to level, BUT AS per your Video you previously cut Approximately 1" below your Arch line, Fabricate a filler panel using this shape with Cardboard after RETURNING your metal around the arch 6mm, thus giving you a LEDGE to rest/weld your filler panel METAL to, from Inner tub after removing Overlap metal from Outer tub to your Quarter panel. This gives Optimum Wheel clearance pf axle travel.
Hay Ho Pip And Dandy Dave, Loving the resto work your doing and thanks for taking the time to film it editing uploading, all which just takes up your time.
The reason you install the axle is to visually see how it looks..you put the tires/rims on that you plan to use ( if you have those ready )... it allows you to be happy with the gaps around tire and not find out it looks " wrong " later when you have done most of the work... it is used along with measuring to get the flares lined up to look the way you want it to look..or as best as you can in most cases... using a center mark from factory or some reference point could make it look uncentered or just " off " from perfect.... ( if that mark is off slightly or more than abit off/out !!👍
Can’t wait for part 2, love this build, i joggled the edge of the quarter panel when I welded in my rear arches but that was standard arch replacement it worked well and I think the joggled edge really helped with limiting the warping, I think cut and butt would be the best if you really took your time with the welding to limit the panels warping, the good thing about expressed panels is they are nice and thick guage steel compared to magnum so that should also help to limit warping
Don’t weld those arches over the top of the panel use a method called cut and butt which involves as the name implies to make a small cut about 2 inches long and then butt weld. It’s hard to explain in words but there’s a guy here on YT who does a lot of it called Fitzees Fabrication. I’ve used it myself a few years ago and with some practice can produce a very good weld and look.
Good progress Dave. I have also had to battle with the magnum lower corner panels not being a good fit. I did also end up fitting my arches under the body which has left me with a small amount to fill but I think it is less filling than if I had fitted them on top.
Dave I think the clearance between the top of the tyre and the new arch tub is quite critical depending on the range of suspension movement you are planning. Obviously a track car will need far less than the equivalent rally car for instance. (Ideally you will need that calculation before working in the new tub shape).
The oil on it is probably to protect it from flash rusting before you get it...protects from moisture and exposure to humidity during shipping/storage...yes they probably use a lubricant during the pressing process...but i would bet it was for appearances once you get it home..and delays in installing it and coating it for stopping bare metal rusting starting... why some coat it too ...with a paint coating..
Looking good mate!! Love a mk1 with bubble arches. Now the end is in sight with the body fabrication , are you going to tackle the painting of the shell yourself ? Have you decided on a colour? I have to say that with my project I have found some big frustrations in the panel fit of some of these aftermarket panels...they definitely dont go straight on without a fair bit of re- adjustment...all good fun....Diolch 👍👍
Hey interesting video just came across it don't know if it will help any I've got a couple of videos showing kinda what we did fitting the arches was abit of a pain to but turned out nice in the end we went with new front wings so didn't have to worry about the fronts might help might not just thought I'd say 😉
great work dave.....i think the reason you might be struggling with the lower quarter section is i think its a mk2 escort repair panel not mk1....there ever so slighly different.......someone else may confirm this?
I would’ve thought you’d get rid of the inner wheel well and fit bigger ones as you’ll be restricted with wheel sizes other wise depends on your plan. But to get utilisation out of the bubbles the inners need to go
I am wondering if you might be possessed, you are speaking in tongues, what are these strange "inches" you speak of.........Top work, always good to see a video pop-up, wish I had the room to do the same.
Please... do it the professional way and fit the arch on the INSIDE of original panel, not the bodge up clagg it on the out side way some others on u tube do it, looking good anyway.
@@DavesGarageuk bare in mind you can seam seal from the inside of the boot and if you modify the wheel arch liners the joins will be in a sterile(ish) area. Yes arches fitted inside.
What people have to know is MK1 and 2 Escorts etc rarely left the factory or even the showroom with some body filler or paint, they were never really 'mint'
That can mixing tip is absolute perfection ❤
Dave, thank you. Your video is invaluable for anyone doing this at home in their own garage!
Glad it was helpful!
dave you really are one clever sausage,,,, its a massive education to so many and invaluable,,,,, just keep doing what your doing
That means so much coming from a man with your skills, thank you 😊
@@DavesGarageuk bless you dave ,,,,your unreal with the skill sett that you have will give so many at home the confidence to maybe have a go them selves ,,,,best thing is you give me that confidence ,as I've learnt so much from you already
Patients of a Saint not only that good skills. Really coming together really looking forward to seeing this finished.
Thank you Stuart 😊
@@DavesGarageuk p. S what colour u doing it.. Lime green? Be nice. 👍
Gonna be white mate
Crikey I'm only 6 minutes in and that using the lathe as a paint mixer has me in stitches! Well done!
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Unbelievable work Dave well done, outstanding skills sir
I’m loving your auto darkening eyes when you weld 🤫😎😎🙈👊😂😂
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Great progress Dave
Thanks for the shout out, looking spot on that..👍
You're very welcome, thanks for your in help 😊
Nice one Dave, steady as she goes.
Thanks pal
great work dave
Not a criticism, more of a tip. When you panel wipe, have a second cloth to wipe of the residue before it dries, also wear nitrile type gloves to stop grease/salt from you fingers from getting on the panel. If you leave the residue or finger contamination before you etch prime, you run the risk of the etch lifting from the panel when you put the next coat of primer on, as the solvent content can dissolve the etch primer causing you problems down the line (especially as you are using a rattle can which has a high thinners content).
Thank you for the advice 😊
I'm sure its complicated on your side of the camera, but from this side you are making it look really easy. Did you notice that the other videos on this subject that you probably watched in preparation for your own attempt gave you very little help, as all the real head scratching and planning your way through the multiple issues that arrise were not filmed or discussed. Your approach to filming these videos is spot on, as without the detail and developement of a plan to deal with the problems, you might just as well show a before and after photo. As someone else has said below, keep doing what you are doing! I for one was hoping it was going to be a 3hr episode!! 🤣
Thanks Neil, yep, I had noticed that too.n
Excellent work 👍
Thank you! Cheers!
Another great video from you,thanks and keep them coming soon. 👍
Thank you Matthew 😊
Fantastic progress Dave. Making that lower Quarter fit nicely was amazing skills! Looked well off at first
Thank you Mick 😊
Dave, the best way of replicating the inner Tub to fabricate the Outer tub is to remove all the sealer which reveals the Overlap of these panels, insert grinder/cut into outer tub resting your Grinder disc against the Inner tub to follow it's factory shape, use a large cardboard section to push into the Grinder cut & trace with a Sharpie. ideally you should transfer this Cardboard cutting onto another piece of cardboard to reveal a True shape of the inner arch & site through to level, BUT AS per your Video you previously cut Approximately 1" below your Arch line, Fabricate a filler panel using this shape with Cardboard after RETURNING your metal around the arch 6mm, thus giving you a LEDGE to rest/weld your filler panel METAL to, from Inner tub after removing Overlap metal from Outer tub to your Quarter panel. This gives Optimum Wheel clearance pf axle travel.
Thank you for your comment 🙏
Once again, nice work Dave
happy dayz👍🏻
Love watching you Dave, keep up with the great vids 🙂
Hay Ho Pip And Dandy Dave, Loving the resto work your doing and thanks for taking the time to film it editing uploading, all which just takes up your time.
Thanks Kevin, yep the editing is surprisingly time consuming.
Fantastic video Dave, looking forward to the next episode👍
Cracking job Dave 🎉😊
Thank you 😊
When you started with the panel wipe i thought you were in the living room.lol.
Cheers mate.
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Brilliant work as always Dave. You make this look so easy.
Was hoping it was going to be a 2 hour video and I had my popcorn and drink ready 😁👍
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very much looking forward to part 2. Another excellent video, which just might encourage me to get on with some of my stuff........
Thank you Ian 😊
The reason you install the axle is to visually see how it looks..you put the tires/rims on that you plan to use ( if you have those ready )... it allows you to be happy with the gaps around tire and not find out it looks " wrong " later when you have done most of the work... it is used along with measuring to get the flares lined up to look the way you want it to look..or as best as you can in most cases... using a center mark from factory or some reference point could make it look uncentered or just " off " from perfect.... ( if that mark is off slightly or more than abit off/out !!👍
Good points made 👍
Great video Dave. . Thanks very much
Thank you Phil 😊
Lovely panel work Dave looking spot on 👍 Same old story soon as you cut out a panel find more repairs got love old cars lol 😁
Indeed Sid 🤣
Can’t wait for part 2, love this build, i joggled the edge of the quarter panel when I welded in my rear arches but that was standard arch replacement it worked well and I think the joggled edge really helped with limiting the warping, I think cut and butt would be the best if you really took your time with the welding to limit the panels warping, the good thing about expressed panels is they are nice and thick guage steel compared to magnum so that should also help to limit warping
I agree on the panel thickness, express make nice panels. Cut and butt is likely to way I'll go. Thanks for you comment 👍😊
First video and I'm very impressed, you see loads of have ago welding but yours looks professional. Looking forward to the next update now.
Thank you Paul 😊
Don’t weld those arches over the top of the panel use a method called cut and butt which involves as the name implies to make a small cut about 2 inches long and then butt weld. It’s hard to explain in words but there’s a guy here on YT who does a lot of it called Fitzees Fabrication. I’ve used it myself a few years ago and with some practice can produce a very good weld and look.
Thanks Carl, yep I follow Fitzee and have learned a lot, the cut and butt process is mega, and likely what I'll do.
Great stuff! I'm well jealous of your work space 😃 .keep up the good work 👍
Thanks, your channel is doing well, superb 👏
Bloody good stuff mate. Look forward the next vid. Have been thinking about doing mine for quite some time. Cheers from Oz
Thanks Ben, hopefully I don't mess it up 😊
Good progress Dave. I have also had to battle with the magnum lower corner panels not being a good fit. I did also end up fitting my arches under the body which has left me with a small amount to fill but I think it is less filling than if I had fitted them on top.
Thanks Derek, good to know it's not just me then 🤣
Cracking job Dave like Asda every little helps 👍 other stores are available lol
🤣 thank you Neal
Great video Dave. You make it look easy! Keep up the great work. A bubble arch MKI is iconic. Hope it's off white!
Thanks Andy, yep it will be
….mines going off white too!
Don't know the Ford colours but Old English White is a nice off white and suits the period.
Dave I think the clearance between the top of the tyre and the new arch tub is quite critical depending on the range of suspension movement you are planning. Obviously a track car will need far less than the equivalent rally car for instance. (Ideally you will need that calculation before working in the new tub shape).
Thanks Phil, it's going to be a road car, no intention of racing it.
The oil on it is probably to protect it from flash rusting before you get it...protects from moisture and exposure to humidity during shipping/storage...yes they probably use a lubricant during the pressing process...but i would bet it was for appearances once you get it home..and delays in installing it and coating it for stopping bare metal rusting starting... why some coat it too ...with a paint coating..
Looking good mate!! Love a mk1 with bubble arches. Now the end is in sight with the body fabrication , are you going to tackle the painting of the shell yourself ? Have you decided on a colour? I have to say that with my project I have found some big frustrations in the panel fit of some of these aftermarket panels...they definitely dont go straight on without a fair bit of re- adjustment...all good fun....Diolch 👍👍
Thanks Ed, yep panel fit is a problem, I shall be painting it, it'll be white, as it was originally.
Hello Dave, Could you perhaps give the measurements of the distances of the bubble arches
They're in the later video mate
Hey interesting video just came across it
don't know if it will help any I've got a couple of videos showing kinda what we did fitting the arches was abit of a pain to but turned out nice in the end we went with new front wings so didn't have to worry about the fronts might help might not just thought I'd say 😉
Thanks, yep, it is a fiddle, thanks, I'll check that out.
41cms and 16.25 inches are teasing us Dave! Please say in one measurement please! - is it the same or different?
🤣 I grew up using both, whichever one is closest on the tape measure
look for an increase in your electricity bill using that lathe to mix the spray can lol 😂🤣
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great work dave.....i think the reason you might be struggling with the lower quarter section is i think its a mk2 escort repair panel not mk1....there ever so slighly different.......someone else may confirm this?
I'll double check this, I was sold it as a MK1 panel
Mk2’s don’t have arches like that, they have boxy ones called forest arches.
Thanks for the mention Dave!
Do we know how the bubble arch was fitted if it was ordered from the factory as an RS extra in the day? In out or butt?
I don't know, was it a complete pressing I wonder, as they are available today as such??
Gartrac look like they install inside….
I would’ve thought you’d get rid of the inner wheel well and fit bigger ones as you’ll be restricted with wheel sizes other wise depends on your plan. But to get utilisation out of the bubbles the inners need to go
Thanks Karl, my intention is for road use only, with 13 inch wheels, but I suppose it's now the time to think ahead...
I am wondering if you might be possessed, you are speaking in tongues, what are these strange "inches" you speak of.........Top work, always good to see a video pop-up, wish I had the room to do the same.
Ye oldy world stuff 🤣
Please... do it the professional way and fit the arch on the INSIDE of original panel, not the bodge up clagg it on the out side way some others on u tube do it, looking good anyway.
Thanks for that, I may yet butt weld into place, be no overlap for gunk to get it and cuase chaos later.
@@DavesGarageuk Butt better than lap on top,
@@DavesGarageuk bare in mind you can seam seal from the inside of the boot and if you modify the wheel arch liners the joins will be in a sterile(ish) area.
Yes arches fitted inside.
What people have to know is MK1 and 2 Escorts etc rarely left the factory or even the showroom with some body filler or paint, they were never really 'mint'
So true
Be worth a fortune
Should cosworth running gear that so ye should
Ooff would do if I could afford the crazy prices Cossie stuff goes for.
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