I thought the scenes between the Xenomorphs and the Predators were the best part of the movie. And thanks to this movie, now Lance Henriksen is now the second actor to be taken down by a Terminator, an alien, and a predator on film.
@@Rosseboi There's still time... maybe they will make another Predator movie that won't be complete crap (obviously referring to the most recent entries).
AVP is my favorite Alien movie, and my tied favorite for Predator franchise (with #2). 10:26 The scene about the history of Predators on planet Earth was so fantastic. That scene alone was worth the ticket price. 12:22 And Sanaa did an outstanding job.
I always wanted to see an Aliens vs. Predator movie based more on the video games and comics, where it takes place roughly in the same timeframe as the Aliens film and included the Colonial Space Marines. I feel like Colonial Marines were sorely underutilized in the films, really only showing up in Aliens, and I feel like there is still so much potential with films revolving around them. I'd still happily see an AvP movie more inline with the games and comics with the Colonial Marines if it were actually done well and at a similar quality as Aliens. I was really bummed when Neill Blomkamp's Aliens sequel was scrapped in favor of Alien Covenant.
and look how "Alien: Covenant" got shit on by those who saw it. "Prometheus" was alright, but making a prequel to the original "Alien" (let alone two of them) and showing the Space Jockey in full kinda ruins the mystery behind them and their origins
@@DrQuagmire1 I hated both prequels. The whole Engineer thing was stupid, I feel. I would rather have 12ft tall bipedal space elephants who created the Xenos as biological weapons. Not tall humans and black goo seeding life in the galaxy.
Aliens was great, but I do wish they didn't kill off damn near the Colonial Marines. Should have left a few others alive to be picked off as the movie went. AvP was good, I did enjoy them, but they should never have made it PG. And may be set in the future like the games and comics would have been great. I did like Prometheus, and originally thought that it was showing how the Alien came to be. But I was dead wrong. For me, those 2 movies are none canon and that Ridley Scott did it in small part cause he hated the Alien and Predator connection sucks. Blomkamp's Alien 5 sounded awesome and the fact that Weaver, Henn (Newt) and Biehn were done for it made me even more excited. Then of course Scott was all like, make his movie after my 3 movies have come out. So Blomkamp's got put on hold, and then dropped altogether cause of Scott.
The problem with that is the budget would be insane and they wouldn't nearly make back their profit. That's why they used smoke and mirrors and cheap tricks for the mediocre AVP movies.
When I was sick for a few months several years ago, I used to watch AVP, Chronicles of Riddick, and HP-Prisoner of Azkaban almost every day/night while lying feeling crap. It's a guilty pleasure, but I never considered how good it could have been if it wasn't PG-13.
I really liked this movie, having never read the comics. My only problem was, once they got to the temple, it felt too rushed. I know it wasn't designed to be a very thoughtful movie, but if they had slowed it down, and allowed for another extra twenty minutes between getting to the temple and the first chest burster popping out, it might have been a much more successful flick.
Exactly my thoughts, it's sped up too much,in fact it always stuck with me as a movie version of the video game that I had played so many times a few years earlier.
The Comics are far better... Its kind of sad honestly as the film "Borrows" so much from the comics, It would maybe have been easier to adapt the comics in all honesty... But then again, They would have had to have NUMEORUS different Alien Types as a Human Colony is attacked in the comics... Meaning there are Aminal-Xeno Hybrids so that may have pushed up costs! And when I say Borrowed form teh comics... Scientist that becomes bad ass warrior... Her being Branded by a Lone Predator Survivor, Her defeating the Alien Queen... ALL FROM THE COMICS!!!
Now Disney owns them both. Alien Predator and Engineers battle it out. Aliens hate humans because of their connection to Engineers and Engineers created Predators to control the Aliens. Predators had been fighting to be free of Engineers and hunted humans for target practice
@@JamesCraigWhoop Disney owns everything. They can throw Baby Groot, Chewbacca, and Indiana Jones into the mix, too! See what kind of a Xenomorph pops out of the Little Mermaids chest, to throw in some real cross-franchise synergy.
I remember when I heard this was coming out I asked my mom to take me to see it. She agreed once she learned it was PG-13. Ironically, at that time, I actually thought it was going to be rated "R" because of their predecessors. She took me on a day I was suppose to be at school. We went in and the theater was empty and we sat in the middle of it all. After about 15 minutes once into the actual movie a couple walked in and it was all just us 4. This has a place in my heart because of what my mom did for me and even with how much better it could have been. Thanks, Mom. ❤
Now that is one cool mom you've got there. Mothers like yours know how meaningful something like that can be to a son, even if it doesn't seem it at the time. Kudos.
My mum was awesome for this too. She took me to see heaps of movies that weren't really her thing, like Neverending story 2, Super mario bros, Alien 3, Jurassic park, etc. Those were good childhood memories she gave me.
The CAPCOM arcade game was based on a movie script for AvP. The game was supposed to come out at around the same time as the movie but the movie didn't materialize. One of the game's protagonists is Dutch. He is a synthetic human in the future, made in the image of the 20th century's Dutch in Predator. So that is one way they considered bringing back Dutch if the movie were to be set in the future.
I wanted to go see this in the theater in 2004, but got into a fight at school and ended up being grounded for a week. I did get the film on DVD, but it was the Fullscreen version.
It should be noted that there was both an Alien vs, Predator book series and a Resident Evil series (essentially novelizations of the games) written by S.D. Perry...and Paul W.S. Anderson happened to write movies based on both concepts. I have a feeling Anderson at least read the books because when, in the movie, when a Predator marks Alexa's cheek with Xenomorph acid it's directly inspired by a similar scene where book character Machiko Noguchi is marked in the same way.
It always amazes me to think just how much, and long, FOX dropped the ball on both these franchises. We get two solid entries for each, then both fall off a cliff...and it just keeps happening.
I enjoyed this movie when it came out and it's grown on me more and more over time. Sure, it doesn't compare to any of the previous Alien or Predator movies (except resurrection), but it's still a fun movie. The sequel....not so much.
I felt the same way about AVP 2 Requiem. When I first saw it I was so disappointed but since Minty has been reviewing this series, I decided to rewatch it and I found myself enjoying it much more. It’s definitely not great & has many issues with the side characters but it was enjoyable enough to see them getting slaughtered by the aliens and predators lol
My sister about had a cow when the pregnant lady in the sequel ended up with her being comatose or dead, her baby having been eaten by writhing aliens. She was a mother of two, wanting more. Meanwhile, I laughed, in horror. She didn't take that well.
I got to meet Ian Whyte who played the lead Predator back in 2004 and he was really lovely guy. He went on to be in Prometheus as well as a small stand in role in the Harry Potter films
R . I . P Bill Paxton . Always a Bright Spot as a Support . And had a Lead with Helen Hunt in that Tornado Storm-chaser Movie . A Cool Guy . Agreed ! This should have been as R - rated as all the rest . I always considered the Predator species as " Honourable " Hunters . Did NOT kill Non-combatants . Space-faring , Tough and Intelligent A F . The Aliens were simply Ferocious ANIMALS . Even the Queens were Murderous , though quite intelligent .
He'll be missed. He did an excellent job of bringing emotional realism to a character. My favorite movies of him is pretty much every movie I've seen by him. Watch "Wierd Science."
Honestly i think that in terms of cinematography, effects, etc, and even attempts at connecting the lore of the Alien and Predator franchises, AVP had it pretty much locked in. Where it failed was the PG rating IMO.. also, there was apparently a deleted scene where Scar plays a prank on Alexa shortly after she kills her first Xeno.. I dunno about the rest of you but a Predator having a dark sense of humor like stimulating a Xeno's nerves to reflexively snap its jaws would have added a lot of personality.. Nice work Minty!
Loved this movie and awesome premise! They have been hunting big game like humans and aliens for centuries! In predator 2 when I saw the alien skull I was so hyped! Bill Paxton was the best in both movies lol! He was so ridiculous but cool!
Well, I for one really liked AVP - the inclusion of Charles 'Bishop' Weyland (Lance Henriksen) was a trump card and as you stated, the script and story are solid. Director Paul W.S. Anderson delivered a good film and I agree, an R rated film would of been so much better. (The 'unrated' version is far superior!) The fact that the story does not interfere or contradict either the Alien or Predator franchises and fits nicely into the 'time-line' - is a major positive and shows Anderson's obvious love for both film franchises. While AVP is a good film, most of the fan base would agree that the comic book story titled, "Prey" - featuring Aliens, Predators and humans in outer space - was probably the best story for an AVP film but Fox, for some unknown reason didn't got with that story!
Bishop being in AVP didn't make sense though, Alien 3 apparently showed us the human Bishop (I know it's ambiguous because of the weird ear injury but I believe that was a make-up goof and it was meant to be a real human injury). Maybe it was still an android with red blood. Maybe it was a clone.
AvP is one of my guilty pleasures as I love ancient alien civilization, exploration on ancient ruins, and crossovers. Gonna be honest, the thumbnail got me confused as that’s more for the AvP: Requiem and was thinking it was gonna be a video about Requiem. Wolf been my favorite predator so I recognize him immediately and random trivia I picked up that the heads of the xenomorph in AvP is more like in Alien and Requiem is more Aliens.
AVP's issues were more in the execution than the concept. The predators simply didn't look as good. They had more articulation but that just made them look wobbly mouthed rather than something that had a real facial structure. They were burly blokes who couldn't move in the same way that KPH could. They had silly, plastic-looking, bulky armour and ridiculous weapon. Less is more and in the case of AVP... more is less. The most interesting character in the film was the Alien known as Grid, an alien with a grudge, an alien who wasn't just a drone.
Agreed. Filming the Xenos they have to be presented in a certain way in order to keep their mystery about. That is whats most intriguing when you see them.
@@LastBastian The look of the main predator and the elder predator in Predator 2 are far superior to later films, but there was something about the look for the first one that had presence. It's insane thinking how different it is to the original design.
@@workingZen KPH was a master of movement, the subtle gestures say so much. One of my favourite parts in the first time, (and I realise he was supported by a bungee rope, but the predator bounding down over the boulders makes him look so good.
It was stupid of them to ignore the lore of the Yautja hunt. In lore, they have to be proficient in fighting the hard meat (xenos) before they are allowed to hunt the soft meat (humans).
This version of the hunt may be a different clan or family's way of hunting? Maybe Earth was split up amongst Yautja groups? It really isn't explained?
@@chrismsmalley2626 It's part of their Code. Any clan that went against it would be denounced as Bad Blood, and certainly not allowed to hunt on a prime hunting world like Earth. That's why the ones in Predators had to kidnap humans to hunt on another planet with no sentient life.
@@the_once-and-future_king. idk predators have significantly superior weapons are significantly stronger and since they had more advanced technology you could say the same or even more intelligent ... i think humans were always supposed to be an easy target for predators.
I remember seeing Predator 2 as a kid when it first came out, I had the movie weapons poster on my wall. I always wanted to see the story of the flintlock pistol from the 18th century. Like, Ships of the Line and Predator seemed very interesting to me.
I remember reading the AvP novels before seeing this movie, so I was really hoping it would follow them, and it kind of does. Ironically, it was the r-rated sequel that bombed.
The tale of Dechande and Noguchi cleaning up that desert ranch planet would've made for a true epic future western, samurai, horror, sci fi masterpiece.
You left out a Paul WS Anderson Easter egg: in Resident Evil, Colin Salmon got cubed by a laser grid; in AVP, hesuffers the same fate when he gets trapped in a Yautja net
I really like this film, I really do. But, to be honest, I was expecting that the setting will be set after the events of Alien 3, cause I really want the Colonial Marines back again.
I was in several stages of denial when this movie hit theaters. I've always been a massive Alien and Predator fan, and thought an Aliens vs. Predator movie would be on of the greatest films ever made. The first couple of graphic novels were extraordinary. This movie was easily the biggest cinematic let-down of my life. To the point where I Was in denial about it for a long time, and finally had to admit it was a horrible let-down. Hollywood really blew it with this one. And then requiem was even worse. The avp movies were the biggest Hollywood mistakes of all time.
I loved this concept while growing up. I loved both franchises, and after seeing the Alien Skull in Predator 2 (something friends at school didn't believe me when I told them) I wanted a movie so bad. . I have the comics, every Video Game based on it, even the full size Capcom Arcade. Since the "Dutch" character was in the Arcade Game I think I had too high of expectations for a movie. When it finally happened, I hated every acid dripped plot hole in that garbage. I was so disappointed. I heard there was an early script that the Arcade Game was based on (with Arnold) but I don't know if proof of that ever appeared
Wolf was the nest thing about this movie. His alien tail whip, duel shoulder cannons, shuriken & power glove were so awesome. His helmet had a xenomorph jaw bone. Also, love his melted tusk from fighting xenomorpha.
I absolutely loved this movie and I hope that 3 isn't a disappointment. Great video again, Minty. I love your site and look forward to the next one, man.
This was the last film I religiously followed production updates and behind the scenes info for. I was on the official website, forums, read the novelization, comics etc. Such a letdown. I never was so hyped and so let down by a film.
@@RisingBeast00 Meh, guess you could say I have a boring life most of the time. I have seen literal thousands upon thousands of movies, I have even owned around 500 dvds at once. Even after watching every movie I have seen, those from the 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's, so on and so forth, AVP is still one of the greatest their is. 👍👍👍👍 Acting like a ten year old was supposed to have traveled the world or something.
What if Dutch had become the first space marine! The space marines need a back story and Dutch is perfect for that also that guy who was in Predator 2 and aliens, in Predator 2, got that other chick cop, (who reminded me a lot of Vasquez by the way) pregnant... I always figured the game over man guy from aliens was descended from his character in Predator 2 which explained his attraction to the Latina lesbian psychotic in Aliens that shitt runs hot in his blood! Regardless there are so many opportunities that they did not exploit. Same goes for aliens, they are Xenomorphs with the ability to take on the properties of whatever animal the Facehugger mixes with why did we not see more of that, flying aliens, snake aliens,... we kind of have swimming aliens in Resurrection but they really could have gone a lot farther with that.
I am 50, but had been watching action and horror movies since I was young, so it was tough for a movie to scare me. But, I was about 26, playing the first person shooter AvP on PC, playing as the marine (or soldier), and the sounds of the Alien would make your skin crawl, and then it drops from the ceiling and attacks you. I litterally jumped in my chair. I have not played it since, and still have the game in the box sitting on a shelf in mine and my wife's office/collection room.
I like all the films in both franchises. Once the opening credits start and the music kicks in I know it's going to be great. Even Covenant and Prometheus still got that feeling.
Watching these videos helps my anxiety a lot. I didn't think anxiety was a huge thing but it bloody is and crippling...thank you minty. Keep it up 👍👍 ps i do watch the videos but I watch through my TV and Google casting kills my battery lol. So just jump on my phone to make a comment
I only like AVP because I love sci-fi +history twist. It was really fun. I really wish Alien and Predator actor extraordinare, Bill Paxton, should play a different and as a main character for AVP movie. That bridges both the franchises nicely.
An alien movie directed by Guillermo del Toro. Now that would be epic. I always thought, that every alien movie having a new Director, and being completely different genres. Always was the charm of the the series. And that Ridley Scott's return spoiled that a bit.
Everyone hates the PG rating but comparing this to the sequel makes this certified fresh in comparison... Atleast Paul WS Anderson's heart was in the right place...
In 1994 there was a great AvP FPS released on the Atari Jaguar. You could play as an Alien, Predator, or Colonial Marine. I still find it to be fun every now and again to hook the Jaguar up and play it (and the awesome Tempest 2000) for nostalgia. Crazy it took the studio a decade after this videogame to make a movie.
From what I remember, There was an Alien vs. Predator film involving the Pred/Alien set on another planet in development in the mid '90's but was considered to expensive to be made.
You answered your own pg-13 complaint. Comic books and toys. Bringing in new, younger fans into the franchise that would eventually watch the originals and the newer Requiem and/or Prometheus.
incidentally, Dark Horse Comics also had the odd unrelated graphic comic story included in the AvP issues.. one of which was Jim Carrey's "The Mask", with that particular issue released in 1991.. about 2-3 years before the Mask film's release
Thank you again, Minty, for a video of a Great Sci-Fi movie...yes, I have a DVD copy on my shelf. You mentioned 'Stand Out Moments'...I'd like to know which scenes were the Stand out moments to you. I ask as one movie fan to another...and for a friend...yeah, he..I mean, she wants to know. And you're right, those two weren't meant to be a PG-13 movie.
I had always hoped for a Robocop VS Terminator movie. There was some excellent mocked up clips on youtube making it look like the two were fighting and they were awesome.
This is why Anderson gets work he is still able to put together a solid movie in spite of Studio Notes. Anderson is a great collaborator and sees compromise as a challenge. In Canada, Predator was PG-13 as I was barely old enough to see it in the theatres.
Stan Winston was fucking mad-as-all-hell at this movie!!!! Wanna know why? Because what Minty DIDN'T mention in this video, is that even though Amalgamated Dynamics was brought onboard to work on the Alien and Predator, the original Predator creator himself, the late-great Stan Winston was pissed that 20th Century Fox didn't even hire him (nor H.R. Giger, for that matter) for a such a big project like this. Because if it wasn't for Stan's brilliance, we wouldn't have the iconic Alien Queen and Predator characters that we all know and love to this day.
The fact that the original director, producer, and main character hated this concept baffles me. It's the ultimate thank you to fans for supporting both franchises. I wish it was a rated R film, though.
I really liked this movie, underrated IMHO. I remember when everyone cheered in theaters at the end for the mid air twist spear move, my wife leaned over to me and said "buy this for me" lol. Side note, Day After Tomorrow was weak, Hellboy was solid, and I will never get why people make a big deal out of rating, a good movie is a good movie, same goes for comedians use of profanity.
I thought the scenes between the Xenomorphs and the Predators were the best part of the movie. And thanks to this movie, now Lance Henriksen is now the second actor to be taken down by a Terminator, an alien, and a predator on film.
@Paul I'd say it still counts.
@Paul still counts!!
@TransCube realising this fact makes me sad we never got to see a Michael beihn predator movie too.....:(
@@Rosseboi There's still time... maybe they will make another Predator movie that won't be complete crap (obviously referring to the most recent entries).
Umm isn't that the whole reason why people wanted to see the film? To see both monsters face off?
This movie changed the landscape for me. Two mythical giants battling it out, head to head... AWESOMENESS
But its a boring pg-13 the kiss of death no swear blood blood or gore this movie would have been awsome if it was an R rated movie as it should be.!
AVP is my favorite Alien movie, and my tied favorite for Predator franchise (with #2).
10:26 The scene about the history of Predators on planet Earth was so fantastic. That scene alone was worth the ticket price.
12:22 And Sanaa did an outstanding job.
I always wanted to see an Aliens vs. Predator movie based more on the video games and comics, where it takes place roughly in the same timeframe as the Aliens film and included the Colonial Space Marines. I feel like Colonial Marines were sorely underutilized in the films, really only showing up in Aliens, and I feel like there is still so much potential with films revolving around them. I'd still happily see an AvP movie more inline with the games and comics with the Colonial Marines if it were actually done well and at a similar quality as Aliens. I was really bummed when Neill Blomkamp's Aliens sequel was scrapped in favor of Alien Covenant.
and look how "Alien: Covenant" got shit on by those who saw it. "Prometheus" was alright, but making a prequel to the original "Alien" (let alone two of them) and showing the Space Jockey in full kinda ruins the mystery behind them and their origins
@@DrQuagmire1 I hated both prequels. The whole Engineer thing was stupid, I feel. I would rather have 12ft tall bipedal space elephants who created the Xenos as biological weapons. Not tall humans and black goo seeding life in the galaxy.
Aliens was great, but I do wish they didn't kill off damn near the Colonial Marines. Should have left a few others alive to be picked off as the movie went. AvP was good, I did enjoy them, but they should never have made it PG. And may be set in the future like the games and comics would have been great. I did like Prometheus, and originally thought that it was showing how the Alien came to be. But I was dead wrong. For me, those 2 movies are none canon and that Ridley Scott did it in small part cause he hated the Alien and Predator connection sucks. Blomkamp's Alien 5 sounded awesome and the fact that Weaver, Henn (Newt) and Biehn were done for it made me even more excited. Then of course Scott was all like, make his movie after my 3 movies have come out. So Blomkamp's got put on hold, and then dropped altogether cause of Scott.
The problem with that is the budget would be insane and they wouldn't nearly make back their profit. That's why they used smoke and mirrors and cheap tricks for the mediocre AVP movies.
Covenant is god-awful, and makes Alien: resurrection seem like a good movie.
When I was sick for a few months several years ago, I used to watch AVP, Chronicles of Riddick, and HP-Prisoner of Azkaban almost every day/night while lying feeling crap. It's a guilty pleasure, but I never considered how good it could have been if it wasn't PG-13.
It must have been pretty rough to last that long, glad you're feeling better now
I really liked this movie, having never read the comics. My only problem was, once they got to the temple, it felt too rushed. I know it wasn't designed to be a very thoughtful movie, but if they had slowed it down, and allowed for another extra twenty minutes between getting to the temple and the first chest burster popping out, it might have been a much more successful flick.
I've watched it half a dozen times, it's a good romp, plot holes and all!
Exactly my thoughts, it's sped up too much,in fact it always stuck with me as a movie version of the video game that I had played so many times a few years earlier.
The Comics are far better... Its kind of sad honestly as the film "Borrows" so much from the comics, It would maybe have been easier to adapt the comics in all honesty... But then again, They would have had to have NUMEORUS different Alien Types as a Human Colony is attacked in the comics... Meaning there are Aminal-Xeno Hybrids so that may have pushed up costs!
And when I say Borrowed form teh comics... Scientist that becomes bad ass warrior... Her being Branded by a Lone Predator Survivor, Her defeating the Alien Queen... ALL FROM THE COMICS!!!
Now Disney owns them both. Alien Predator and Engineers battle it out. Aliens hate humans because of their connection to Engineers and Engineers created Predators to control the Aliens. Predators had been fighting to be free of Engineers and hunted humans for target practice
@@JamesCraigWhoop Disney owns everything. They can throw Baby Groot, Chewbacca, and Indiana Jones into the mix, too! See what kind of a Xenomorph pops out of the Little Mermaids chest, to throw in some real cross-franchise synergy.
I remember when I heard this was coming out I asked my mom to take me to see it. She agreed once she learned it was PG-13. Ironically, at that time, I actually thought it was going to be rated "R" because of their predecessors. She took me on a day I was suppose to be at school. We went in and the theater was empty and we sat in the middle of it all. After about 15 minutes once into the actual movie a couple walked in and it was all just us 4. This has a place in my heart because of what my mom did for me and even with how much better it could have been. Thanks, Mom. ❤
Now that is one cool mom you've got there. Mothers like yours know how meaningful something like that can be to a son, even if it doesn't seem it at the time. Kudos.
@@totallypreposterous Thanks, Man. Yeah, my mother is pretty amazing looking back on what she has done for me and what she gave me growing up.
I wonder what she would have said if it was AVP Requiem. LOL😅
@@jaysonthespasian2563 Dito. And as they were good to us raising us, we're good to them as they advance in years. It's nice to return the favor.
My mum was awesome for this too. She took me to see heaps of movies that weren't really her thing, like Neverending story 2, Super mario bros, Alien 3, Jurassic park, etc.
Those were good childhood memories she gave me.
The CAPCOM arcade game was based on a movie script for AvP. The game was supposed to come out at around the same time as the movie but the movie didn't materialize. One of the game's protagonists is Dutch. He is a synthetic human in the future, made in the image of the 20th century's Dutch in Predator. So that is one way they considered bringing back Dutch if the movie were to be set in the future.
Compared to the mess of movies being released nowadays, this movie was a masterpiece...
I liked this concept. I really wish the original predator actor was still around to play the role.
Kevin Peter Hall
I always thought this was fun enough Predator / Aliens fan fiction with a budget.
Agree.
Absolutely.
Agree
Just like the DISNEY Star Wars sequel trilogy, IMHO, I just realized that Disney can now make a three way crossover…better not give them any ideas
@@travismiller4320 Alien vs Predator vs Engineers
I wanted to go see this in the theater in 2004, but got into a fight at school and ended up being grounded for a week. I did get the film on DVD, but it was the Fullscreen version.
It was released in August...
You went to school during Summer?
@@thisisnotachannel October in the UK.
I've screwed up a few premieres, tickets in hand, but got in trouble for drinking beforehand.
It should be noted that there was both an Alien vs, Predator book series and a Resident Evil series (essentially novelizations of the games) written by S.D. Perry...and Paul W.S. Anderson happened to write movies based on both concepts. I have a feeling Anderson at least read the books because when, in the movie, when a Predator marks Alexa's cheek with Xenomorph acid it's directly inspired by a similar scene where book character Machiko Noguchi is marked in the same way.
It always amazes me to think just how much, and long, FOX dropped the ball on both these franchises. We get two solid entries for each, then both fall off a cliff...and it just keeps happening.
Now Disney owns them both
@@JamesCraigWhoop Yep, which means a hard boycott from me. I will never knowingly give money to Disney again.
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@@SumDumGy Agree
I enjoyed this movie when it came out and it's grown on me more and more over time. Sure, it doesn't compare to any of the previous Alien or Predator movies (except resurrection), but it's still a fun movie. The sequel....not so much.
I felt the same way about AVP 2 Requiem. When I first saw it I was so disappointed but since Minty has been reviewing this series, I decided to rewatch it and I found myself enjoying it much more. It’s definitely not great & has many issues with the side characters but it was enjoyable enough to see them getting slaughtered by the aliens and predators lol
My sister about had a cow when the pregnant lady in the sequel ended up with her being comatose or dead, her baby having been eaten by writhing aliens. She was a mother of two, wanting more. Meanwhile, I laughed, in horror. She didn't take that well.
My only problem with Requiem was it was too dark, hard to see anything, I still don’t understand why they filmed it that way
I got to meet Ian Whyte who played the lead Predator back in 2004 and he was really lovely guy. He went on to be in Prometheus as well as a small stand in role in the Harry Potter films
R . I . P Bill Paxton . Always a Bright Spot as a Support . And had a Lead with Helen Hunt in that Tornado Storm-chaser Movie . A Cool Guy .
Agreed ! This should have been as R - rated as all the rest .
I always considered the Predator species as " Honourable " Hunters . Did NOT kill Non-combatants . Space-faring , Tough and Intelligent A F .
The Aliens were simply Ferocious ANIMALS . Even the Queens were Murderous , though quite intelligent .
He'll be missed. He did an excellent job of bringing emotional realism to a character.
My favorite movies of him is pretty much every movie I've seen by him.
Watch "Wierd Science."
Honestly i think that in terms of cinematography, effects, etc, and even attempts at connecting the lore of the Alien and Predator franchises, AVP had it pretty much locked in. Where it failed was the PG rating IMO.. also, there was apparently a deleted scene where Scar plays a prank on Alexa shortly after she kills her first Xeno.. I dunno about the rest of you but a Predator having a dark sense of humor like stimulating a Xeno's nerves to reflexively snap its jaws would have added a lot of personality.. Nice work Minty!
One of my problems with these films was them being set in current (2004ish) world. AVP needed to be in the future.
Or the past.
For example, Alien VS Predator 2, 2001.
Loved this movie and awesome premise! They have been hunting big game like humans and aliens for centuries! In predator 2 when I saw the alien skull I was so hyped! Bill Paxton was the best in both movies lol! He was so ridiculous but cool!
Well, I for one really liked AVP - the inclusion of Charles 'Bishop' Weyland (Lance Henriksen) was a trump card and as you stated, the script and story are solid. Director Paul W.S. Anderson delivered a good film and I agree, an R rated film would of been so much better. (The 'unrated' version is far superior!) The fact that the story does not interfere or contradict either the Alien or Predator franchises and fits nicely into the 'time-line' - is a major positive and shows Anderson's obvious love for both film franchises. While AVP is a good film, most of the fan base would agree that the comic book story titled, "Prey" - featuring Aliens, Predators and humans in outer space - was probably the best story for an AVP film but Fox, for some unknown reason didn't got with that story!
Bishop being in AVP didn't make sense though, Alien 3 apparently showed us the human Bishop (I know it's ambiguous because of the weird ear injury but I believe that was a make-up goof and it was meant to be a real human injury).
Maybe it was still an android with red blood. Maybe it was a clone.
@@JamesStocks the Bishop in AVP is the founder of Weyland industries and he's human.
@@roadkillofficialaustralia Alien 3 bishop is also human, is my point
@@JamesStocks a severed head, clearly an android, a human..?
AvP is one of my guilty pleasures as I love ancient alien civilization, exploration on ancient ruins, and crossovers.
Gonna be honest, the thumbnail got me confused as that’s more for the AvP: Requiem and was thinking it was gonna be a video about Requiem. Wolf been my favorite predator so I recognize him immediately and random trivia I picked up that the heads of the xenomorph in AvP is more like in Alien and Requiem is more Aliens.
Jeez mate chill out lol
Read my comment above I just posted. It's very "interesting" to say the least.
I love this movie. I don't know how many times I have watched it.
least 6 for me......
great job Minty! i wish they would've used the comic story line. it was a great story baseline to build from.
AVP's issues were more in the execution than the concept. The predators simply didn't look as good. They had more articulation but that just made them look wobbly mouthed rather than something that had a real facial structure. They were burly blokes who couldn't move in the same way that KPH could. They had silly, plastic-looking, bulky armour and ridiculous weapon. Less is more and in the case of AVP... more is less. The most interesting character in the film was the Alien known as Grid, an alien with a grudge, an alien who wasn't just a drone.
Agreed. Filming the Xenos they have to be presented in a certain way in order to keep their mystery about. That is whats most intriguing when you see them.
Glad Im not the only one who felt the Predators looked a bit too bulky and looked like they couldnt move as much as KPH.
Personally, I don't think they've ever managed to make a predator that looks as good as the original.
@@LastBastian The look of the main predator and the elder predator in Predator 2 are far superior to later films, but there was something about the look for the first one that had presence. It's insane thinking how different it is to the original design.
@@workingZen KPH was a master of movement, the subtle gestures say so much. One of my favourite parts in the first time, (and I realise he was supported by a bungee rope, but the predator bounding down over the boulders makes him look so good.
Ten things you didn't know about, "Kingpin" next or soon? Such a great movie.
Agreed!
Don't end up munsoned
@@paulie.walnuts2838 one my favourite movies! 😆😂
@@MrJamiez it is a great comedy , I haven't watched it in years , I might need to give it a rewatch 👍🏻
It was stupid of them to ignore the lore of the Yautja hunt. In lore, they have to be proficient in fighting the hard meat (xenos) before they are allowed to hunt the soft meat (humans).
This version of the hunt may be a different clan or family's way of hunting? Maybe Earth was split up amongst Yautja groups? It really isn't explained?
@@chrismsmalley2626 It's part of their Code. Any clan that went against it would be denounced as Bad Blood, and certainly not allowed to hunt on a prime hunting world like Earth. That's why the ones in Predators had to kidnap humans to hunt on another planet with no sentient life.
that doesn't make any f*ing sense, wtf is the point to hunt something hard to kill to then "advance" to hunt something easier to kill? ...
@@jotr.9786 Because humans use weapons and are intelligent in unpredictable ways. Xenos are pretty basic in comparison.
@@the_once-and-future_king. idk predators have significantly superior weapons are significantly stronger and since they had more advanced technology you could say the same or even more intelligent ... i think humans were always supposed to be an easy target for predators.
If this movie would have been rated R the true fans to the franchise would have shown their loyalty.
I remember seeing Predator 2 as a kid when it first came out, I had the movie weapons poster on my wall. I always wanted to see the story of the flintlock pistol from the 18th century. Like, Ships of the Line and Predator seemed very interesting to me.
I remember reading the AvP novels before seeing this movie, so I was really hoping it would follow them, and it kind of does. Ironically, it was the r-rated sequel that bombed.
The tale of Dechande and Noguchi cleaning up that desert ranch planet would've made for a true epic future western, samurai, horror, sci fi masterpiece.
Agreed. Pissed they ripped off the book and gave the authors no credit whatsoever
I like the scene where the Predator picks up of the alien and spins it around busting its head up against the walls.
You left out a Paul WS Anderson Easter egg: in Resident Evil, Colin Salmon got cubed by a laser grid; in AVP, hesuffers the same fate when he gets trapped in a Yautja net
The character *Lex* was bad ass and the premise of a *Pyramid* under the ice in Antarctica amazing. This movie is one of my favorites 🌃
I really like this film, I really do. But, to be honest, I was expecting that the setting will be set after the events of Alien 3, cause I really want the Colonial Marines back again.
I was in several stages of denial when this movie hit theaters. I've always been a massive Alien and Predator fan, and thought an Aliens vs. Predator movie would be on of the greatest films ever made. The first couple of graphic novels were extraordinary. This movie was easily the biggest cinematic let-down of my life. To the point where I Was in denial about it for a long time, and finally had to admit it was a horrible let-down. Hollywood really blew it with this one. And then requiem was even worse. The avp movies were the biggest Hollywood mistakes of all time.
Yeah just play the capcom arcade game if you want a great AVP experience .
Why were u so upset with it
I'm glad you were able to squeeze in a half-hour sermon/commercial today. I missed church this weekend.
Production value and polish of your videos continues to grow, nice work!
Can you do the alien games ? Colonial marines, isolation etc
I loved this concept while growing up. I loved both franchises, and after seeing the Alien Skull in Predator 2 (something friends at school didn't believe me when I told them) I wanted a movie so bad. . I have the comics, every Video Game based on it, even the full size Capcom Arcade. Since the "Dutch" character was in the Arcade Game I think I had too high of expectations for a movie. When it finally happened, I hated every acid dripped plot hole in that garbage. I was so disappointed. I heard there was an early script that the Arcade Game was based on (with Arnold) but I don't know if proof of that ever appeared
Ah, your friends didn't believe you either. Loved the expression on their faces when I showed them tho🤪
@@xXOFrannieOXx I had to wait for HBO to show everyone lol
I can really sit and watch all your videos all day. Your voice is so relaxing and your movie knowledge is exceptional.
Wolf was the nest thing about this movie. His alien tail whip, duel shoulder cannons, shuriken & power glove were so awesome. His helmet had a xenomorph jaw bone. Also, love his melted tusk from fighting xenomorpha.
You’re thinking of the Super Predator with the mandible jaw bone.
@@crazyralph6386 Ohhh yeah, duhh. Its early 🤣 I don't know how i missed that up lol
Talk about wasted potential.
I ❤️ this movie! It is one of my favorite movies!
I absolutely loved this movie and I hope that 3 isn't a disappointment. Great video again, Minty. I love your site and look forward to the next one, man.
AvP I always thought it an underrated crossover movie with lots of actions and cool fighting scenes, and I love it next to Freddy vs Jason.
This was the last film I religiously followed production updates and behind the scenes info for. I was on the official website, forums, read the novelization, comics etc. Such a letdown. I never was so hyped and so let down by a film.
God what a waste of a film. A true disgrace to Freddy v Jason, Batman v Superman, Kramer v Kramer
Hahahahahah!!!
I was 10 years old when I saw this movie. One of the greatest moments of my life.
Wow dude must've been a boring life. How many movies have you seen by then? Or since? Like this was the best one out of then?
@@RisingBeast00 Meh, guess you could say I have a boring life most of the time. I have seen literal thousands upon thousands of movies, I have even owned around 500 dvds at once.
Even after watching every movie I have seen, those from the 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's, so on and so forth, AVP is still one of the greatest their is.
👍👍👍👍
Acting like a ten year old was supposed to have traveled the world or something.
I loved AVP! I hope they make more sequels 👽👽👽
What if Dutch had become the first space marine! The space marines need a back story and Dutch is perfect for that also that guy who was in Predator 2 and aliens, in Predator 2, got that other chick cop, (who reminded me a lot of Vasquez by the way) pregnant... I always figured the game over man guy from aliens was descended from his character in Predator 2 which explained his attraction to the Latina lesbian psychotic in Aliens that shitt runs hot in his blood! Regardless there are so many opportunities that they did not exploit. Same goes for aliens, they are Xenomorphs with the ability to take on the properties of whatever animal the Facehugger mixes with why did we not see more of that, flying aliens, snake aliens,... we kind of have swimming aliens in Resurrection but they really could have gone a lot farther with that.
Yes a lot potential but I did think the same thing about Dutch and marines how ironic.
I am 50, but had been watching action and horror movies since I was young, so it was tough for a movie to scare me.
But, I was about 26, playing the first person shooter AvP on PC, playing as the marine (or soldier), and the sounds of the Alien would make your skin crawl, and then it drops from the ceiling and attacks you. I litterally jumped in my chair. I have not played it since, and still have the game in the box sitting on a shelf in mine and my wife's office/collection room.
I like all the films in both franchises. Once the opening credits start and the music kicks in I know it's going to be great. Even Covenant and Prometheus still got that feeling.
100% agree! I remember seeing AvP in the theater and thinking such wasted potential.
Much better movie than I thought it was going to be, thanks again
We loved this and have a copy we watch once a year; the lead character chic was awesome to us!
Good morning over there from the desert of the northwest it's still dark here and rainy but good morning brotha.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, I can't believe ol' Minty actually did a "10 Things You Didn't Know About AVP"
After I watch every one of your videos I have a super fresh mouth I don't know why this happens haha.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Would be interesting to see interviews with Del Toro and Emmerich explaining their views of how they would have done AVP
Watching these videos helps my anxiety a lot. I didn't think anxiety was a huge thing but it bloody is and crippling...thank you minty. Keep it up 👍👍 ps i do watch the videos but I watch through my TV and Google casting kills my battery lol. So just jump on my phone to make a comment
In Taiwan, the movie is called:
異形戰場
Which you can translate as
Alien Showdown, AVP Coliseum, or Battlefield of the Extraterrestrials
Very interesting, thanks for sharing that!
love your stuff man great vid again
Two Monsters For The Price Of One, Cool Video As Always Minty, Keep Up The Good Work, Take Care
Yes!!! Thank you Minty. Well done.
I only like AVP because I love sci-fi +history twist. It was really fun. I really wish Alien and Predator actor extraordinare, Bill Paxton, should play a different and as a main character for AVP movie. That bridges both the franchises nicely.
The AVP arcade game was one of the best brawler games ever made.
Thanks Minty. I enjoyed this, very informative 👍
An alien movie directed by Guillermo del Toro. Now that would be epic.
I always thought, that every alien movie having a new Director, and being completely different genres. Always was the charm of the the series. And that Ridley Scott's return spoiled that a bit.
Everyone hates the PG rating but comparing this to the sequel makes this certified fresh in comparison... Atleast Paul WS Anderson's heart was in the right place...
Always look forward to your videos Minty.
Great video! As usual.. I would love to see you follow it up with a video about AVP Requiem.
LOVED THAT COMIC SERIES
21:07 - I never noticed this little reference to the Hudson/Bishop knife game from Aliens. I appreciate the Easter egg.
In 1994 there was a great AvP FPS released on the Atari Jaguar. You could play as an Alien, Predator, or Colonial Marine. I still find it to be fun every now and again to hook the Jaguar up and play it (and the awesome Tempest 2000) for nostalgia. Crazy it took the studio a decade after this videogame to make a movie.
They have said game on XBOX 360 as well.
From what I remember, There was an Alien vs. Predator film involving the Pred/Alien set on another planet in development in the mid '90's but was considered to expensive to be made.
"...now they could see it!"
They were seeing it a whole year before Predator 2 as the first AVP comic came out in November 1989
You answered your own pg-13 complaint. Comic books and toys. Bringing in new, younger fans into the franchise that would eventually watch the originals and the newer Requiem and/or Prometheus.
The premise of a Facehugger knocking up a Predator was an "aawwwww shit!!!!" moment.
It was fun. My only issues are the rules of Aliens and Predator were thrown up against the nearest tree and forgotten. Well done Minty.
"Welp, better late than never" clip from Ghostbusters 2. Missed opportunity Minty!
incidentally, Dark Horse Comics also had the odd unrelated graphic comic story included in the AvP issues..
one of which was Jim Carrey's "The Mask", with that particular issue released in 1991.. about 2-3 years before the Mask film's release
Thank you again, Minty, for a video of a Great Sci-Fi movie...yes, I have a DVD copy on my shelf.
You mentioned 'Stand Out Moments'...I'd like to know which scenes were the Stand out moments to you.
I ask as one movie fan to another...and for a friend...yeah, he..I mean, she wants to know.
And you're right, those two weren't meant to be a PG-13 movie.
I had always hoped for a Robocop VS Terminator movie. There was some excellent mocked up clips on youtube making it look like the two were fighting and they were awesome.
Minty, another amazeballs review.
I love it ❤️❤️❤️
for a Mother's Day video, A 10 Things You Didn't Know About Serial Mom
I watched this for Lance, who deserves way more credit for his works.
This is why Anderson gets work he is still able to put together a solid movie in spite of Studio Notes. Anderson is a great collaborator and sees compromise as a challenge. In Canada, Predator was PG-13 as I was barely old enough to see it in the theatres.
One of my closest friends and i went to see this when we were teenagers, and loved it.
You pronounced Sanaa Lathan's name CORRECTLY!!! Good job 😂👍👏
The original Mortal Kombat, Event Horizon AND the 1st Resident Evil movie are all well done movies. That's an impressive resume
Stan Winston was fucking mad-as-all-hell at this movie!!!! Wanna know why?
Because what Minty DIDN'T mention in this video, is that even though Amalgamated Dynamics was brought onboard to work on the Alien and Predator, the original Predator creator himself, the late-great Stan Winston was pissed that 20th Century Fox didn't even hire him (nor H.R. Giger, for that matter) for a such a big project like this. Because if it wasn't for Stan's brilliance, we wouldn't have the iconic Alien Queen and Predator characters that we all know and love to this day.
Minty you superstar! Do “Predators”? Do Prometheus, Covenant! Love the channel!!!
The fact that the original director, producer, and main character hated this concept baffles me. It's the ultimate thank you to fans for supporting both franchises. I wish it was a rated R film, though.
Very good review. I am so happy that you didn't say verse instead of versus.
I really liked this movie, underrated IMHO. I remember when everyone cheered in theaters at the end for the mid air twist spear move, my wife leaned over to me and said "buy this for me" lol. Side note, Day After Tomorrow was weak, Hellboy was solid, and I will never get why people make a big deal out of rating, a good movie is a good movie, same goes for comedians use of profanity.
beautifully said. thank you
I love this movie! So many good memories watching it
I saw this movie more than a couple of times and enjoyed it, and don't mind watching it again
I agree 100% with your assessment.
Yep agree with all of this minty - nice one, cheers