@@stephenfeldman8104 I guess so 😄 it’s been a long day at work in a series of long days of work and it kinda just spilled out so maybe it expresses some kind of subtle, Freudian yearning for a bit of rest in a meaningful context 😂👍
Rick and Luke need to have semi-regular streams just talking about sessions and players from back in the day. I wanna go waaay down the rabbit hole when it comes to this kind of history lesson.
That Steve Gadd story is legendary. Apparently he showed up hungover, from a binge the night before, almost asleep at the drum kit, and they counted it off and ripped Aja on 1 take
Al DiMeola had a similar story on Gadd. Supposedly they had to carry him into a session to record Egyptian Danza. Totally wasted but he cut it in 1 take
Man! LUKATHER has been such a huge influence on my own guitar playing as much as Gilmore and Lifeson! Steve Rothery from Marillion and so many others. LUKATHER is truly one of the greatest. He's a total legend and deserves a great deal more praise than he gets. He's also a great singer.
I went on Spotify earlier and played the "featuring Steve Lukather " playlist. If you're 'of an age', it's a really great listen. I could listen to these two shooting the breeze all day long. Love Steve! (and you, Rick 🙂)
Steve Gadd is a drum god. I've been listening to him since at least Chick Corea's Friends album and he breadth of work is just amazing. He is always spot on perfect.
As a bass player, I loved learning all but two songs on that album for fun and for knowledge. In 1983 the band I was in learned White Sister and I also got to sing the lead vocal...it was like winning the musical lottery. I can't sing that good anymore but I've been lucky enough to keep my bass playing chops...hmmm, I gotta dig that cd up and blow the carbon out of my speakers and my head...yes White Sister, I sure as hell love you...woooo!
There's a lot of classic rock, particularly from the '70s, where I wondered what the guitar player was doing between solos. Simply because I couldn't hear it in the mix under the pianos and strings. Like the song would be grooving along, and then this killer guitar solo comes out of nowhere, and once the solo was over the guitar would just disappear again in the mix.
Rick, you've heard it before, and you're gonna hear it again: you are a great intervier. When you do standard interviews, you do a great job because you ask the question, and then you let your guest talk and talk and talk because we don't want to hear you, we want to hear your guest. That said, these interviews that you do that are like this one, are also wonderful because you have been in the industry forever, your guests have been in the industry forever, and hearing pillars of the industry throw back-and-forth is just phenomenal. Trent Argante Grammy Award Recipient 1987 Gospel category Mylon Lefevre & Broken Heart
He's a pro. Even when he's in mid-flight leading up to something, if Steve cuts across him he shuts up immediately. No airs or graces, no ego flex, he just let's it flow.
I love listening to Steve's stories. Would be great fun (and go on forever...lol) to have him and Leland Sklar together in the studio...you could just sit back and let them go on for hours, and it would be incredible! lol ❤
The Steve Gadd was very common back in the day. His chauffeur was a good friend of mine. During his substance abuse days he was known to be passed out right before a session woken up and perform on the first take. He is the ultimate musician who happens to play drums. One of the nicest guys too so everyone tells me!
Yacht rock king, talking about other kings of yacht rock! Myles Kennedy (incredible tenor vocalist - AlterBridge, Slash, Mayfield four, solo) was chatting with Justin Hawkins (The Darkness) and Rick Beato himself about being a huge fan of yacht rock (among other genres and singers). Mark Tremonti too! They joked that they should put out an album of yacht rock remakes together! Would actually be pretty awesome based on watching Myles sing Levon and Rocket Man recently! Knocks the songs out of the park! (Be nice to have the guitars a bit more in the forefront of the mix too!)
Lukather talks like a great solo. Effortless, but not a word misplaced. Can you imagine a podcast with Rick, Lukather, and Vinnie Colaiuta? Those guys can talk.
Great interview. I was an engineer for several years in Dallas back in the early 80's. I always mixed by myself because too many cooks... When you play the mix, and no one is happy about how loud they are in the mix, then you know it is right.
Even Mark Knopfler had difficulty recording with Steely Dan. Fagen and Becker's perfectionism is/was legendary. It is at least partly to blame for the long break after the release of Gaucho.
Rick, I just wanted to stop you real quick and let you know that I’m subscribed to Rick Beato 2 and I pushed the notifications button just now…. lol, haha not but in all seriousness Rick this was a great interview…
Earth Wind and Fire were happy to have Luke feature in the mix of their "Back On The Road" single. I bought the record because the guitar sounded like a Steely Dan solo. Give it a listen. It's a gem.
Whenever Luke does an interview we all come out and say how awesome he is, great storyteller, and great stories. No doubt. But can we also all agree the dude is ADD and over the place in his stories. 😂 And that's part of what makes them so great. Love the guy.
"Group Time" That's where the "Chemistry" of a Group of people is heard/felt. You can see it in Rock but it's really evident in Be Bop Jazz where the Groups were like Musical Chairs. Change Just the Tenor Sax and a whole different "Feel" comes thru.
I am just curious if Luke went to NAMM this past weekend. I kept my eye out but didn't see him. I really wish I could meet him and other members of the band. I did see Rick and he was kind to take a selfie with me. ❤😊
The greatest crime ever was the burying of Ian Bairnston's solo on Kate Bush's "Wuthering Heights". I could understand if it was just a meandering, by the numbers solo to pad out the song's ride-out .. but it is legitimately one of the greatest pop/rock solos ever composed. It is right up there with the likes of Hugh Burns' solo on Gerry Rafferty's "Baker Street" or George Harrison's solo on "Something"
Dear Rick. Is Gil Norton an interviewee you've had your eye on before? I've been wondering for years how he manages to make the albums sound so direct and top-notch. What do you tell the musicians when they have some special technical ideas? How does he deal with that?
Yeah, I get why some shy away from these conversations when just casually mention Phillinganes. Most people don’t know that’s one of the great session keyboard players of our time who played with everyone. Yet, you don’t want to stilt the conversation with edits and asides. Interesting balance. I liked your video Rick about retirement and when, and I loved your unapologetic attitude towards doing what you do because it interests you; not for the clicks. And not taking comments/reviews personally. Love the content.
It’s a weird phenomenon I play (live) guitar for a living and I’ve found that a lot of sound engineers are allergic to guitar. I play helix straight to the desk, with in ears so it’s not an amp volume thing. It’s like they will mix you to the absolute minimum to be heard but will always give drums and keyboards loads of headroom It makes you not play as well because you’re always having to play full tilt to be heard and you can’t play dynamically. I don’t know if it’s revenge for the years we were basting them in the face with a Marshall or what.
It's a common-thing with front of the house PA guys now-a-days always burying the guitar in the funking mix!! I HATE it and them. Stop. If you're old and don't have your hearing anymore...let a YOUNG person handle it. If you are a drummer or just don't like vocals and lead guitars standing out for the lead instruments they are....stop doing what you're doing and let people that understand mixing and the formula do your job!
I read or heard a number of years ago Larry Carlton was highly favored at Steely Dan sessions as he could help generate charts satisfactory to Fagan/Becker while being user friendly and inspiring to session players that came and went daily. Any truth to that or corroborate?
Luke is awesome! Everyone should read his book - "The Gospel According to Luke". The amount of great music he contributed to, with SO MANY great artists, is RIDICULOUS, he will go down in history, as one of the greatest musicians ever!
It probably happens all the time. Andy Summers’ classic guitar riff for Every Breath You Take was buried in the original mix. Andy flipped out and demanded changes. EBYT is, of course, now the most played song in the history of radio. Most guitar players don’t have the power to do what Andy did.
Trust me... as a keyboard player of over 50 years there is absolutely no need to weep for guitarists who have been sat back in the mix. A guitarist who understands that every instrument and musician is equally important in a band is in my experience a very rare thing.
@@stevedrake360 is it a solo if all the other instruments are playing and there is a mix!? doesn't solo mean the others stop playing other than maybe a simple bass line or drumbeat?
4:02 Steve Gadd story in a nutshell: The day before the session, Steve Gadd got way too drunk (due to partying). When he got into the studio doing sessions, he NAILED the drum parts in one take (even he had a HANG OVER!).
I recently got hired by a band to play lead guitar. A lot of my stuff gets buried. In truth, I'm OK with it. At the end of the day, everything is supposed to serve the song. Thankfully, I'm not hemmed in by a snapshot in time in the form of a recording.
I have an idea for a video, Rick. Talk about the idea that guitar players are technically better than ever and are outright mind blowing, but there seems to be a disconnect between that virtuosity and the ability to write great songs. Is that a thing or just an old guy thing?why hasn’t there been songs as good as those from previous decades?
I am also a geezer, and it seems that way to me too. There is an abundance of incredibly skillful playing, but not so many pointed, purposeful, and memorable songs. I am rarely moved, by most of what I hear today. Apparently, young people are buying more of the old stuff, than the new. I am hardly surprised. . . . . . .
Full Interview Here: ruclips.net/video/4nBbzajS29o/видео.htmlsi=TMMHjg6gegRgcqzY
That really was a great and insightful interview.
Fine I'll subscribe 🙂
thank you!!!!
When I die I want to be buried in the mix ♥
🤣😆🤟😅😂
🖖⚡🖖
Did you just come up with that? That's great!
You know how the Traveling Wilburys came up with their name, right? We’ll bury it in the mix. In case it’s ambiguous, I’m not kidding.
Face up?
@@stephenfeldman8104 I guess so 😄 it’s been a long day at work in a series of long days of work and it kinda just spilled out so maybe it expresses some kind of subtle, Freudian yearning for a bit of rest in a meaningful context 😂👍
Rick and Luke need to have semi-regular streams just talking about sessions and players from back in the day. I wanna go waaay down the rabbit hole when it comes to this kind of history lesson.
For sure! Fascinating history behind these classic songs.
Yesss!!! great idea!
Lukather's git enough stories to full an encyclopedia!
I love listening to Steve talk about his experiences as a guitarist and his collaborations with other musicians.
You would love his book.
I could listen to these type of stories all day.
That Steve Gadd story is legendary. Apparently he showed up hungover, from a binge the night before, almost asleep at the drum kit, and they counted it off and ripped Aja on 1 take
Al DiMeola had a similar story on Gadd. Supposedly they had to carry him into a session to record Egyptian Danza. Totally wasted but he cut it in 1 take
Man! LUKATHER has been such a huge influence on my own guitar playing as much as Gilmore and Lifeson! Steve Rothery from Marillion and so many others. LUKATHER is truly one of the greatest. He's a total legend and deserves a great deal more praise than he gets. He's also a great singer.
I went on Spotify earlier and played the "featuring Steve Lukather " playlist. If you're 'of an age', it's a really great listen. I could listen to these two shooting the breeze all day long. Love Steve! (and you, Rick 🙂)
Lukather is such a character! Without a doubt one of the most animated artists you've interviewed Rick! ✌
Steve Gadd is a drum god. I've been listening to him since at least Chick Corea's Friends album and he breadth of work is just amazing. He is always spot on perfect.
The Toto album Hydra is a great overlooked studio rocker . Anyone else love it? Ie White Sister,
As a bass player, I loved learning all but two songs on that album for fun and for knowledge. In 1983 the band I was in learned White Sister and I also got to sing the lead vocal...it was like winning the musical lottery. I can't sing that good anymore but I've been lucky enough to keep my bass playing chops...hmmm, I gotta dig that cd up and blow the carbon out of my speakers and my head...yes White Sister, I sure as hell love you...woooo!
@@godfreymccammon4531 whoooo
just love it when you and Luke gets together, real language by real guitarists. makes me smile.
Rosana's solo give me goosebumps every time i hear that crazy solo is amaaaaazing.
It's all about the periodic Quik Sniffs.... Um-hmm.
The Nightfly is so good.
Also one of My deserted island albums
Pure shameless ear candy.
Lukather is just a cool nice patient guy.....a real treasure
Lukather is soooooo much fun - I love these snippets!
You gotta love Steve, love his stories, total legend in my eyes...
I love their damn conversation! This is so cool.
There's a lot of classic rock, particularly from the '70s, where I wondered what the guitar player was doing between solos. Simply because I couldn't hear it in the mix under the pianos and strings. Like the song would be grooving along, and then this killer guitar solo comes out of nowhere, and once the solo was over the guitar would just disappear again in the mix.
As a novice bass player (just play in church and have two other careers), I’ve learned so much about music and the industry. Thx Rick!
You can tell how respected Rick is, as an equal & peer. You see how comfortable the true greats are talking with him 🎶
Love these interviews, Rick you sure know how to get people to be themselves.
I Looooove Luke! He's always a great interview, and of course I love his playing all over the place. Great stories!!
I LOVE these stories
These wouldn't exist without Rick, I swear he's on a one-man mission to get this all documented for the historical record - and that is good
Rick, you've heard it before, and you're gonna hear it again: you are a great intervier. When you do standard interviews, you do a great job because you ask the question, and then you let your guest talk and talk and talk because we don't want to hear you, we want to hear your guest. That said, these interviews that you do that are like this one, are also wonderful because you have been in the industry forever, your guests have been in the industry forever, and hearing pillars of the industry throw back-and-forth is just phenomenal.
Trent Argante
Grammy Award Recipient
1987 Gospel category
Mylon Lefevre & Broken Heart
He's a pro. Even when he's in mid-flight leading up to something, if Steve cuts across him he shuts up immediately. No airs or graces, no ego flex, he just let's it flow.
I love listening to Steve's stories. Would be great fun (and go on forever...lol) to have him and Leland Sklar together in the studio...you could just sit back and let them go on for hours, and it would be incredible! lol ❤
The outro solo on White Sister is one of the best ever recorded and it’s under a layer of mud.
Listening to Ride like the Wind, the producers made the right call. Beato Nerds
Love all you work Rick.
The Steve Gadd was very common back in the day. His chauffeur was a good friend of mine. During his substance abuse days he was known to be passed out right before a session woken up and perform on the first take. He is the ultimate musician who happens to play drums. One of the nicest guys too so everyone tells me!
I love Steve, saw him couple of years ago with Ringo Starr, amazing musician, top guitar player and great singer
Yacht rock king, talking about other kings of yacht rock!
Myles Kennedy (incredible tenor vocalist - AlterBridge, Slash, Mayfield four, solo) was chatting with Justin Hawkins (The Darkness) and Rick Beato himself about being a huge fan of yacht rock (among other genres and singers). Mark Tremonti too!
They joked that they should put out an album of yacht rock remakes together!
Would actually be pretty awesome based on watching Myles sing Levon and Rocket Man recently! Knocks the songs out of the park!
(Be nice to have the guitars a bit more in the forefront of the mix too!)
Yacht rock?stupid term someone came up with,can’t stand it.
Why I almost felt like I was with you guys? So good. Music lovers talking about our passion
Lukather talks like a great solo. Effortless, but not a word misplaced. Can you imagine a podcast with Rick, Lukather, and Vinnie Colaiuta? Those guys can talk.
Great interview.
I was an engineer for several years in Dallas back in the early 80's.
I always mixed by myself because too many cooks...
When you play the mix, and no one is happy about how loud they are in the mix, then you know it is right.
Steve is the most versatile guitar player to walk the planet
Even Mark Knopfler had difficulty recording with Steely Dan. Fagen and Becker's perfectionism is/was legendary. It is at least partly to blame for the long break after the release of Gaucho.
I was a big fan of Toto back in the late’70s/early ‘80s. They made some great music!!!
Found your channel because of Steve Lukather. Just subscribed. Loved the interview!
Love both your channel's and all your guests are top notch, Stay Up, Hard, and Free Rick keep slamming out all these banger interviews.....🔥❤️💯✨️
Rick, I just wanted to stop you real quick and let you know that I’m subscribed to Rick Beato 2 and I pushed the notifications button just now…. lol, haha not but in all seriousness Rick this was a great interview…
Earth Wind and Fire were happy to have Luke feature in the mix of their "Back On The Road" single. I bought the record because the guitar sounded like a Steely Dan solo. Give it a listen. It's a gem.
Whenever Luke does an interview we all come out and say how awesome he is, great storyteller, and great stories. No doubt. But can we also all agree the dude is ADD and over the place in his stories. 😂 And that's part of what makes them so great. Love the guy.
Luk is one of the best interviews in music.
I didn't know there was a 2nd Rick Beato channel. Subscribed!
"Group Time" That's where the "Chemistry" of a Group of people is heard/felt. You can see it in Rock but it's really evident in Be Bop Jazz where the Groups were like Musical Chairs. Change Just the Tenor Sax and a whole different "Feel" comes thru.
A lot of people don't know how much of a shredder Christopher Cross is!!!
without a doubt, Christopher Cross is indeed a good guitar player but his solo on Ride Like the Wind, almost inaudible.
Alright, Beato. I've subscribed. You do great work, I must say.
I am just curious if Luke went to NAMM this past weekend. I kept my eye out but didn't see him. I really wish I could meet him and other members of the band. I did see Rick and he was kind to take a selfie with me. ❤😊
The greatest crime ever was the burying of Ian Bairnston's solo on Kate Bush's "Wuthering Heights". I could understand if it was just a meandering, by the numbers solo to pad out the song's ride-out .. but it is legitimately one of the greatest pop/rock solos ever composed. It is right up there with the likes of Hugh Burns' solo on Gerry Rafferty's "Baker Street" or George Harrison's solo on "Something"
I forgot what book I was reading recommended to put the solos at the same volume as the vocals if the vocals aren't present.
Dear Rick. Is Gil Norton an interviewee you've had your eye on before? I've been wondering for years how he manages to make the albums sound so direct and top-notch. What do you tell the musicians when they have some special technical ideas? How does he deal with that?
Yeah, I get why some shy away from these conversations when just casually mention Phillinganes. Most people don’t know that’s one of the great session keyboard players of our time who played with everyone. Yet, you don’t want to stilt the conversation with edits and asides. Interesting balance.
I liked your video Rick about retirement and when, and I loved your unapologetic attitude towards doing what you do because it interests you; not for the clicks. And not taking comments/reviews personally.
Love the content.
It’s a weird phenomenon
I play (live) guitar for a living and I’ve found that a lot of sound engineers are allergic to guitar.
I play helix straight to the desk, with in ears so it’s not an amp volume thing.
It’s like they will mix you to the absolute minimum to be heard but will always give drums and keyboards loads of headroom
It makes you not play as well because you’re always having to play full tilt to be heard and you can’t play dynamically.
I don’t know if it’s revenge for the years we were basting them in the face with a Marshall or what.
It's a common-thing with front of the house PA guys now-a-days always burying the guitar in the funking mix!! I HATE it and them. Stop. If you're old and don't have your hearing anymore...let a YOUNG person handle it. If you are a drummer or just don't like vocals and lead guitars standing out for the lead instruments they are....stop doing what you're doing and let people that understand mixing and the formula do your job!
Rick you gotta give us more Luke chats. Love listening to his stuff.
I read or heard a number of years ago Larry Carlton was highly favored at Steely Dan sessions as he could help generate charts satisfactory to Fagan/Becker while being user friendly and inspiring to session players that came and went daily. Any truth to that or corroborate?
Steve Lukather tells it like it is. 😊
Is that the same Michael Lardie who was in Great White... ? I didn't catch that before.
Luke is awesome! Everyone should read his book - "The Gospel According to Luke". The amount of great music he contributed to, with SO MANY great artists, is RIDICULOUS, he will go down in history, as one of the greatest musicians ever!
I will add: IT'S A MUST-READ! Or go one better: Go Audiobook! (Read by Luke himself) - I did both!
Definitely subscribed!
The irony of Rick lamenting that Steve's guitar level was buried in the mix while Steve's mic level in this interview is buried in the mix 😅😅😅
Leland Sklar just had a comment about not rehearsing or you lose the spontaneity, or the good stuff.
I agree, there's a lot of drums and keyboards on Toto's two first albums. Even the vocal is barried in the mix.
Alright! Alright Rick I'm subscribed already! 😜 You gotta' love Luke. He's a character.
It probably happens all the time. Andy Summers’ classic guitar riff for Every Breath You Take was buried in the original mix. Andy flipped out and demanded changes. EBYT is, of course, now the most played song in the history of radio. Most guitar players don’t have the power to do what Andy did.
Audio is a little bit quiet in the interview segments.
Subscribed since the beginning😅
can you do an interview about Vito Bratta sir Rick..
I would really enjoy talking to you all, your channel is really interesting to listen to yall xbehind the music".
Rick! How does one write charts for a recording session? Is it just sheet music or something else? Great Interview!
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NIGHTFLY is a must on a island.
Why Rick Beato 2…why not! More killer content.
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Same thing happens at a lot of churches, you see the lead guitarist playing and can barely hear them
Trust me... as a keyboard player of over 50 years there is absolutely no need to weep for guitarists who have been sat back in the mix. A guitarist who understands that every instrument and musician is equally important in a band is in my experience a very rare thing.
I think we're only talking about solos. Whether the solo is from a guitar, keyboard, sax or any other instrument, it should be turned up in the mix.
One of my guitar teachers made me study the approach of the three main Motown guitarists to learn this lesson of group arranging and leveling.
@@stevedrake360 is it a solo if all the other instruments are playing and there is a mix!? doesn't solo mean the others stop playing other than maybe a simple bass line or drumbeat?
@@joetspaulding Not necessarily. Solos are often played over the simultaneous playing of the other musicians.
Keyboards are gay that’s why .
Proud subscriber from day 1 (more or less 😉).
Cliffs of Dover is still great. (Eric Johnson was mentioned at the beginning)
Well... From somebody who played the killer riffs on many records, it ain't always about the solos. Just ask EVH...
I wanted to hear Ricks story about the retake with Steve Gadd.
Awesome - Jimmy Page next please! :)
Geniuses can show up hungover and still be a genius.
That Piano solo on Ruby Baby is so delightfully lazy on the standard tempo of the song that it's perfect.
Love RB2
I've watched the long form interview with Luke a few times but I like these shorter segments as well.
It's all good brother!!
4:02
Steve Gadd story in a nutshell:
The day before the session, Steve Gadd got way too drunk (due to partying). When he got into the studio doing sessions, he NAILED the drum parts in one take (even he had a HANG OVER!).
Found it and subscribed too
Listen to I Want You by Brothers Johnson. He definitely wasn't buried in the mix
I recently got hired by a band to play lead guitar. A lot of my stuff gets buried. In truth, I'm OK with it. At the end of the day, everything is supposed to serve the song. Thankfully, I'm not hemmed in by a snapshot in time in the form of a recording.
Yes. As long as I get paid, I don't care.
Okay fine, I hit the button.
Could you set up a third channel where you just sit and chat to Steve Lukather?
😂😂😂
I think Lukather's dialogue with Scorsese could be an experience in articulation.
Nothing like hearing one of the greats of all time talk about someone he considers to be one of the greats of all time.
Yeah, so true...
Ok, I subscribed.
Subscribed! Now get Robert Fripp on an interview, please.
I have an idea for a video, Rick. Talk about the idea that guitar players are technically better than ever and are outright mind blowing, but there seems to be a disconnect between that virtuosity and the ability to write great songs. Is that a thing or just an old guy thing?why hasn’t there been songs as good as those from previous decades?
I am also a geezer, and it seems that way to me too. There is an abundance of incredibly skillful playing, but not so many pointed, purposeful, and memorable songs. I am rarely moved, by most of what I hear today. Apparently, young people are buying more of the old stuff, than the new. I am hardly surprised. . . . . . .
Lukather and Cross both were buried so many times. Maybe their producers and/or engineers didn't value guitar solos.
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