"Whenever I add too many tracks, I'm getting skeptical. If I can't express myself with 15 tracks, then I probably can't express myself with 30 tracks" --- This talk is GOLD! Thank you!
10:17 "Always when we stopped the tape... when everything is boring...in 90% of the cases, this was the most interesting part of everything...at the moment when you think you have nothing to say anymore, is the perfect moment to continue..." - love this!
Fascinating video exploring the nature of what it is to be a 21st Century Musician - I am now the composer, the instrument creator, the arranger, the player, the recording engineer, the mixing engineer, the mastering engineer, the producer, and most often times the marketer and distribution manager. Where are the limits?
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Probably it's the 5th watching to that - always opening my mind and challenging the way I'm doing my stuffs. Inspiring and challenging me.
This is a great talk, not just in the context of music but also in any architectural art. We have so many possiblities that making a choice at all becomes increasingly difficult.
robert is an awesome guy, love listening to him. hope to hear him someday, immerhin wohnen wir in der selben stadt - sollte sich bestimmt machen lassen, irgendwann wenn ich genügend knete haben werde um auf solche veranstaltungen zu gehen :)
Wonderful. I appreciate this philosophical approach to the creative process. It expands much further than electronic music, and offers some thoughtful solutions to the "problem of abundance".
His English is easy to understand for me(JPN, non-native English speaker). I fond the sound materials Robert provided for the ROM attached to Native Instruments Reaktor which version was before 2001.
This was very insightful and interesting! Robert's speech helps one to question what your personal insights are concerning this subject, whether you agree with him or not.
to me what is starting (cause i know my tools more and more and the sytle of music i like to do) to work, is my philosophy to do a track in a few hours (it is very important the first take...riff...ect.., rarelly can be improved) that force pretty much like working with a modular, with so greats tools we all have it is possible, OK not mastered and fully mixed to perfection but what a Techno track concern it must to be possible, i mean Techno or any modern Electronic music, also is good to consider colaboration (upload the track and allow re-mixes) now through the net it is also possible to get help and or colaboration which always help to inspiration, also like traditional music focus in your sound and how to get it, the tools (plug ins) now are repetitives different ways to do the same, except at final mixes stages where special processing are requiered and helps, but here it is better to me send my track to a professional mastering engineer, if i consider the track deserves it :-)
Something that doesn't get discussed is that most of us grew up with physical objects, hardware synths and computer games etc.. Will the next generation of mainly digital composers still feel saturated by the vast amount of 'off the shelf' plugins?
50:00 Ese es el principio de especialización que me enseñan en economía, es mejor encontrar un nicho y encontrar tu potencial ahí, que intentar satisfacer a todo el mundo. Mcdonal sabe de eso :)
this is a very limited view, I agree with many of the points raised about over saturation, peak plug-in, time spent coding versus composing etc. but, to conclude that a valid answer is to return to modular synthesis really misses the mark. Computer music is not dead, no way, is Robert even thinking straight here? and, you can bet, we will hit peak modular eventually, like all trends that have their roots in a reactionary ideology, a new reaction will follow, a new wave of computer music is on the way, so many exciting things coming, that he is avoiding talking about it is kinda strange considering his background...
He is not a proponent of modular synthesis, he just observes it as a trend that confirms his point: Limits actually help in an artistic process. By saying computer music is dead he just is claiming that the "computer" is just one tool, he doesn't even count tablets as computers in this sense.
No that is not hardly what he meant or even insinuated. Modular synths were an example (model if you will)of how a developer might model a solution of limitations.
I bet computer music will die soon, at least in the way we all know it is at the present, Build a kinda MPC X instrument with AU or VST capabilities and power you will see who gonna buy an Apple or Windows computer to create music, of courses to print or mix professional comercial products it is now too soon to see the computer´s year ends, nothing come close to Pro Tools HDX
All this is very interesting and makes some sense, but I find it quite strange and bit hypocritical to hear this coming from the co-founder of Ableton Live, a DAW fully bloated versions after versions. Just take a look the new Live 10 coming out real soon, full of new tools and gimmicky features…
Bloated? I don't find it bloated, the audio and midi effects all have their specific uses and I find myself using most of them. Same for the instruments. The new functions are welcomed additions as well. Then there are the max for live devices, but those are an entirely separate and optional package.
"Whenever I add too many tracks, I'm getting skeptical. If I can't express myself with 15 tracks, then I probably can't express myself with 30 tracks" --- This talk is GOLD! Thank you!
10:17 "Always when we stopped the tape... when everything is boring...in 90% of the cases, this was the most interesting part of everything...at the moment when you think you have nothing to say anymore, is the perfect moment to continue..." - love this!
These ideas about the unexpected benefits & joys of limiting choice are great and extent beyond music but even to our personal lives and relationships
A Distinguished Lecture by Robert Henke - Thank you so much; insightful, advanced, and thought provoking. I love it !
Fascinating video exploring the nature of what it is to be a 21st Century Musician - I am now the composer, the instrument creator, the arranger, the player, the recording engineer, the mixing engineer, the mastering engineer, the producer, and most often times the marketer and distribution manager. Where are the limits?
Probably it's the 5th watching to that - always opening my mind and challenging the way I'm doing my stuffs. Inspiring and challenging me.
An AMAZING TALK FOR PEOPLE BORN YESTERDAY!
Such an Excellent talk! Love how Henke has such a formal engineering paradigm into music
This is a great talk, not just in the context of music but also in any architectural art. We have so many possiblities that making a choice at all becomes increasingly difficult.
robert is an awesome guy, love listening to him. hope to hear him someday, immerhin wohnen wir in der selben stadt - sollte sich bestimmt machen lassen, irgendwann wenn ich genügend knete haben werde um auf solche veranstaltungen zu gehen :)
Wonderful. I appreciate this philosophical approach to the creative process. It expands much further than electronic music, and offers some thoughtful solutions to the "problem of abundance".
His English is easy to understand for me(JPN, non-native English speaker). I fond the sound materials Robert provided for the ROM attached to Native Instruments Reaktor which version was before 2001.
great talk, important topic not just for music. Separate the processes & create limitations. Priceless
This was very insightful and interesting! Robert's speech helps one to question what your personal insights are concerning this subject, whether you agree with him or not.
What an amazing talk. As someone who's both musician and software developer this resonates with me.
great talk..thank you.
thank you for sharing your Knowledge!
Absolutely brilliant. Completely agree.
to me what is starting (cause i know my tools more and more and the sytle of music i like to do) to work, is my philosophy to do a track in a few hours (it is very important the first take...riff...ect.., rarelly can be improved) that force pretty much like working with a modular, with so greats tools we all have it is possible, OK not mastered and fully mixed to perfection but what a Techno track concern it must to be possible, i mean Techno or any modern Electronic music, also is good to consider colaboration (upload the track and allow re-mixes) now through the net it is also possible to get help and or colaboration which always help to inspiration, also like traditional music focus in your sound and how to get it, the tools (plug ins) now are repetitives different ways to do the same, except at final mixes stages where special processing are requiered and helps, but here it is better to me send my track to a professional mastering engineer, if i consider the track deserves it :-)
Thank you
this is too good
Awesome talk! Did he hold his cup all the time in his hands just to take one sip at the end? :D robert henke is a legend!
Something that doesn't get discussed is that most of us grew up with physical objects, hardware synths and computer games etc.. Will the next generation of mainly digital composers still feel saturated by the vast amount of 'off the shelf' plugins?
Does he hold the cup till the end of his speech?
Well said so far.
cool stuff!!
inspiring,
that Psychic TV tatoo ;)
50:00 Ese es el principio de especialización que me enseñan en economía, es mejor encontrar un nicho y encontrar tu potencial ahí, que intentar satisfacer a todo el mundo. Mcdonal sabe de eso :)
like it!!
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Rob, you are hot as hell!
this is a very limited view, I agree with many of the points raised about over saturation, peak plug-in, time spent coding versus composing etc. but, to conclude that a valid answer is to return to modular synthesis really misses the mark. Computer music is not dead, no way, is Robert even thinking straight here? and, you can bet, we will hit peak modular eventually, like all trends that have their roots in a reactionary ideology, a new reaction will follow, a new wave of computer music is on the way, so many exciting things coming, that he is avoiding talking about it is kinda strange considering his background...
He is not a proponent of modular synthesis, he just observes it as a trend that confirms his point: Limits actually help in an artistic process.
By saying computer music is dead he just is claiming that the "computer" is just one tool, he doesn't even count tablets as computers in this sense.
No that is not hardly what he meant or even insinuated. Modular synths were an example (model if you will)of how a developer might model a solution of limitations.
I bet computer music will die soon, at least in the way we all know it is at the present, Build a kinda MPC X instrument with AU or VST capabilities and power you will see who gonna buy an Apple or Windows computer to create music, of courses to print or mix professional comercial products it is now too soon to see the computer´s year ends, nothing come close to Pro Tools HDX
All this is very interesting and makes some sense, but I find it quite strange and bit hypocritical to hear this coming from the co-founder of Ableton Live, a DAW fully bloated versions after versions. Just take a look the new Live 10 coming out real soon, full of new tools and gimmicky features…
I think the main message is that the tools should offer all the options, but the artists benefit from (self-imposed) constraints.
Bloated? I don't find it bloated, the audio and midi effects all have their specific uses and I find myself using most of them. Same for the instruments. The new functions are welcomed additions as well. Then there are the max for live devices, but those are an entirely separate and optional package.