1998 - 2005 Proton Satria GTI - The Hot Hatch That Time (and Everyone Else) Forgot

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    Today on the channel, I drive a real cult hero - the Proton Satria GTI. Considered by many to be the only Proton worth buying, it has "handling by Lotus" - but does that really mean anything in a near-forgotten car from a manufacturer that doesn't even exist in Britain anymore?
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  • @JayEmmOnCars
    @JayEmmOnCars  Год назад +62

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    • @edwardfletcher7790
      @edwardfletcher7790 Год назад +1

      The car has high mileage, why do you expect the steering and suspension to be as new ? 😩

    • @khor9613
      @khor9613 Год назад

      Mitsubishi colt hot hatch.....

  • @keeshenarul4554
    @keeshenarul4554 Год назад +1710

    This video is about to go viral....in Malaysia 😊

    • @GF-mf7ml
      @GF-mf7ml Год назад +65

      It's just way cheaper than civic hatch.

    • @sugar4522
      @sugar4522 Год назад +12

      Super cool car man 🤙

    • @ghurghust
      @ghurghust Год назад +8

      True 😆

    • @rauna47
      @rauna47 Год назад +108

      Even in Malaysia, Its got that "supra" status here. its nearly impossible to find this car in stock condition.

    • @afaxx3304
      @afaxx3304 Год назад +4

      @@rauna47 also got eg6 status

  • @andrewstones2921
    @andrewstones2921 Год назад +417

    I had a 2010 Proton Neo with the 1.6 Twin Cam which was 1 year old when I bought it, it was a fabulous car. It handled like a dream, was comfortable and had super cold air-con. I’ve been to Malaysia many times and the taxis are always Proton, and back in the 90s virtually all cars were Proton. I like them a lot, they are well built cars. Malaysia has something the UK lost.. a pride in their national car brand.

    • @tiadaid
      @tiadaid Год назад +22

      Actually not really, Malaysians are spitting on Proton because to them, it's the reason why foreign brands are "expensive".
      There was a time in the mid 2010 where Proton's sales in Malaysia was lower than even Honda & Toyota, and it could have ended up like Rover - until the Chinese stepped in.

    • @RandomVideos-zu4vx
      @RandomVideos-zu4vx Год назад +19

      @@tiadaid I stopped loving Proton after the Chinese took over

    • @RandomVideos-zu4vx
      @RandomVideos-zu4vx Год назад +6

      @@muhamadridzuan3287 I don't care about other European companies 😂 as long as my country's national car brand is original and legit

    • @chanccs4103
      @chanccs4103 Год назад +2

      @@RandomVideos-zu4vx lol

    • @Spagettipasta
      @Spagettipasta Год назад +3

      The only proton i know is proton saga kelabu~~😂😂

  • @mrehanrosli
    @mrehanrosli Год назад +207

    I'm a proud owner of Proton Satria GTI back in 2002. I had converted the engine to 4G63T Evo III slight tuned engine marked at 300hp and full time 4wd. Pleasant torque & speed and handling was superb ❤
    Painted the car with mix color code Ferrari Red and Mistubishi Red. The color turns out outstanding ❤❤ and i changed the wheels as well 17 inch 5Zigen Heidfeld Gold pretty rare to get those rims back then. Upgraded the suspension with fully adjustable soft/hard Gab suspension which quite stiff but suit my younger days purpose 😅
    Had a great time with my Proton Satria GTI 4G63T and thanks for the lovely memories ❤❤🔥🔥🇲🇾👍

    • @luqmanlanco
      @luqmanlanco Год назад

      how much did you spend to convert it to awd? i can imagine it cost way more than the swap itself

    • @mrehanrosli
      @mrehanrosli Год назад +4

      @@luqmanlanco back then year 2002 evo3 engine c/w 4wd fuel tank , axle long shaft, dashboard and Momo steering cost at Rm12k (no bodypart).
      Workshop workmanship engine, 4wd installation, black dashboard c/w cluster meter, wiring and momo steering Rm 4k. I locked 2wd for JPJ inspection and later locked 4wd once car have been inspected and car registration card endorsed by JPJ for new engine.
      Total Rm 16k.
      I heard now price of Evo 3 engine pretty expensive compared those days 😅

    • @luqmanlanco
      @luqmanlanco Год назад

      @@mrehanrosli everything seems so affordable back in the days hahahaha. i can imagine it would cost way over 50k to make it happens nowdays. looks like i wont get to feel awd experience anytime soon 😭
      i can only assume the performance difference must be huge for you to go as far as converting it to awd. would you recommend having 300hp under the hood of fwd hatchback or stick with sedan?
      ive checked the price for complete engine unit on marketplace quite recently. if i remember it correctly full rebuilt turbocharged engine go up to 14k but the scrap can be as low as 3k but im sure the cost to rebuild it wont be far from the already rebuilt one 😂

    • @Ali_art
      @Ali_art 7 месяцев назад

      @@luqmanlanco markup culture in Malaysia are getting worse. Rm16k in 2002 it would be rm26k now. 10 difference. Inflation+worksmanship+markup total to Rm40-50k today smh

  • @cme2cau
    @cme2cau Год назад +171

    I'm in Australia and I had a Peugeot 206 GTi in the mid 2000s. Similar power to the Satria. It was a source of annoyance to me that the Protons held their value better than my Pug!

    • @alfonsomartinez7919
      @alfonsomartinez7919 Год назад +24

      protons are essentially mitsubishi mirages hence the better resale value

    • @EePingLiang
      @EePingLiang Год назад +19

      @@alfonsomartinez7919 and handling tuned by Lotus

    • @MrCarrera28
      @MrCarrera28 Год назад +2

      I chose between a 206 GTi and Satria GTi and in the end I went for the Satria because it's interior was miles ahead of the Pug in terms of build quality and it had those Recaros.

    • @vsmh96
      @vsmh96 2 месяца назад +2

      @@cme2cau in Malaysia, the birthplace of Proton, the resale value is bad, not sure if it's as bad as the Pug or worse

  • @ricklee3
    @ricklee3 Год назад +71

    What a blast from the past, my best friend had this car back in the early 2000's, we use to go on car cruises together and once we raced another friend in his Nissan R33 GTST? on the local twisties and the Nissan could not keep up with the Proton. It had really cool seats as well from what I remember.

    • @cj-fx2kj
      @cj-fx2kj Год назад

      Pendatang chnese 👲🏻🤫

    • @MrLennonson
      @MrLennonson 3 месяца назад

      @@cj-fx2kj lmao racist as fuck

    • @kimi_7
      @kimi_7 Месяц назад

      @@cj-fx2kj ???

  • @wafiywahidi3317
    @wafiywahidi3317 Год назад +5

    *Fellow Malaysian, Our National Car Brand has been recognized.*

  • @Hahnck750i
    @Hahnck750i Год назад +34

    There is a limited R3 version of this car that is under 1000kg with a lot of carbon parts and welded chasis.
    This car has a lot of mod potential for handling and even keeping the 4g93 in NA form. a total track beast.
    Nowadays if you own one in malaysia regardless if it's stock configuration or modified, they are stressful to own because people will steal the car. So driving it out and parking it will just fill you with endless worries.

    • @cj-fx2kj
      @cj-fx2kj Год назад

      Pendatang chnese 👲🏻🤫

    • @vsmh96
      @vsmh96 2 месяца назад +2

      There's also the Satria Neo R3, Lotus Racing edition with upgraded brakes and suspension

    • @anyq_CS
      @anyq_CS 26 дней назад +1

      ​@@cj-fx2kjhuh??

  • @NJbro31
    @NJbro31 Год назад +7

    Im very happy that Proton cars such as this get international recognition. Epic
    My uncle used to drive this car,but switched to a Honda City some years or months later. Good memories

  • @Nafeels
    @Nafeels Год назад +223

    This Satria had arguably coming from the best era of Proton, in my Malaysian opinion. However, back home like the Putra and Arena this was priced a lot higher than the Lancer-derived Wira. Despite this it still sold relatively well for a car with only two doors. Today it’s still a bargain second-hand purchase and it often had a 1.3L 4G13 base engine found in many Proton cars.
    Then there’s the Satria NEO which uh, I’m sure you already know of. Not a lot of people enjoyed the CAMPRO engine which abandoned the Mitsubishi heritage.

    • @raki31
      @raki31 Год назад +16

      The only saving grace for campros is that is decently reliable and also shares the platform with the 4G series of Mitsubishi engines, so you can swap in a 4G63T with relative ease

    • @greywolf88
      @greywolf88 Год назад +5

      Proud owner of 1992. Mitsubishi Colt with 1.3 GLi engine. Engine may on small side but nippy enough for me.😁

    • @mimimimeow
      @mimimimeow Год назад +21

      the Proton/Lotus Campro has a funny story. It was originally designed with proper VVT and meant to rival R VTECs. Proton however rushed the engine, deleted the VVT system and as a result, the original S4PH Campro has a terrible torque dip at 3000rpm, making it feel lethargic even to old Mitsu engines.
      They later put a "bandaid" with the IAFM system and returned the VVT/L under the moniker "CPS". Even so the system was only on the intake side, making 125hp. Proton's motorsport arm later built limited edition Satria Neos with CPS on both camshafts, making 150hp.

    • @Funktastico
      @Funktastico Год назад +8

      @@mimimimeow Yes i was scammed into buying gen2 campro back in 2005 which turns out to be camtakpro engine kosong with neither valve timing / lift nor any camshaft profiling tech.

    • @britishneko3906
      @britishneko3906 Год назад +1

      yeahh... well my dream car is a Wira
      hmm... I wonder why I don't care about cars much

  • @eTiMaGo
    @eTiMaGo Год назад +14

    I lived in Malaysia in the late 90s- mid 2000s, this car was so lustworthy :D
    An honorable mention is the Perdana V6, a very decent saloon

    • @hostiles1
      @hostiles1 Год назад +1

      i sold my gti & bought a 2nd hand Perdana V6 (gearbox always problem 😅) & now V6 engine's replaced by EVO1 engine & still driving til now. very stable car...

  • @deaks25
    @deaks25 Год назад +53

    I remember there was a Satria GTi living nearby when I was a teenager and I did think it was a seriously cool little car. I really like the looks; it looks proper for a hot-hatch of the era. Glad to see one on the channel as I still have a sort spot for it.

    • @1977dclinton
      @1977dclinton Год назад +3

      you didnt grow up in county durham did you. Just my dad had one and to this day his is the only one ive ever seen in the wild. lol. ive always thought they had the look of a saxo VTR lookabout them, but yeah it was a cool little car.

    • @deaks25
      @deaks25 Год назад +2

      @@1977dclinton No, north Norfolk. Now you mention it, it does have a bit of Saxo VTR to it.

  • @triplesixchannel9393
    @triplesixchannel9393 Год назад +85

    As a young lad growing up in Malaysia during the early 2000's , I can say the Satria GTI is one of my dream cars to ever own. It has that aura about it, the same way young people craved for a Supra or a Skyline R34 or even a Honda Civic type R back in the day, and even until now. I had own a basic 1.3 liter Satria with a 4G13 engine before (2nd hand) , but have to part ways with it because it was too much gone to be restored. However , I can tell you that the basic Satria is no where near the pedigree of a Satria GTI, because the GTI was simply made better.
    If anyone in the European region want to find parts for the Satria, try to look for parts in the Malaysian market, we still have a scene for them here, and it is still one of the most popular car for young people , and even a popular choice for entry level racing car.

  • @faisalamir1928
    @faisalamir1928 Год назад +32

    This was my first car after i got my drivers license. Absolutely loved it! Had to sell if off unfortunately as i got into alot of trouble with the Malaysian police whilst driving this car. They would try to find any kind of fault with a young kid driving the GTI. The moment i switched to a honda accord, the problems with the police stopped lol.

  • @sunsetgarage755
    @sunsetgarage755 Год назад +35

    We got these in Australia. They were a great little genuinely quick hot hatch for their time. But to put this car into perspective considering it’s basically a Mitsubishi clone; we also got a handful of MIVEC engined Mitsubishi Mirages which had preceded this by quite a few years, and were another level again in performance. It’s a pity they were “Japan only” models brought over specifically for racing. They were like Honda Civic spoon engined cars.

  • @blakeparry1983
    @blakeparry1983 Год назад +143

    Were somewhat popular here in AU, and yes based on the lancer/mirage badging over here.
    The plastic flares were the bomb!
    Had a friend who modified one and set of headers helped the top end a bit.
    Popular to get the 4g93 upgrade from the CC GSR lancer or the big boy 4g63 from an evo conversion back in the day.
    THere was also a MIVEC (mitsi's VTEC) swap option.
    Also shared commonality with the proton Jumbuck - a small ute variant

    • @phillipevans9414
      @phillipevans9414 Год назад +11

      @Blake Parry. Yeah, Proton were (are?) low sellers here in Aus - judging by the numbers you see on the roads, there biggest seller would have been the Jumbuck - there's at least a couple of them that I still see getting around locally (not sure why Subaru stopped making the Brumby, because they were very popular here, and that left the Proton Jumbuck as the only small ute left on the market). Can't remember when I last saw a Satria GTi "in the wild" though. Cheers!

    • @TN_AU
      @TN_AU Год назад +1

      Yep, had a small cult following here in Australia back in the day, my fondest memory was there was a 4WD conversion at Auto Salon car show, had mirrors on the floor so we can see the goodies.

  • @donaldbuchanan8675
    @donaldbuchanan8675 Год назад +13

    I had one of these in Sydney, brand new in 2001 it cost $30K. It was a great first motor! Had it for five year and enjoyed every minute of it. I sold it for $10K and then got a Ford XR6T Ute.

  • @aivarusk218
    @aivarusk218 Год назад +73

    I had one 5 years ago, handling is spot on, decent mid range grunt but they do feel very strangled at high revs. One thing I really liked was how good the instrument cluster looked when it was illuminated at night

    • @salembabban4622
      @salembabban4622 5 месяцев назад

      I disagree my friend, I find after 4500rpm I rip all the way to 7200 🤣

  • @in_the_bilge
    @in_the_bilge Год назад +113

    Great to see a video on the Proton GTI! I had forgotten it was called a Satrie GTI - always think of it as the Proton GTI. I've always been interested in these on account of having a flavour of a Saxo VTS in the styling, Lotus handling and the Mitsubishi Colt underpinnings. I went on to run a later Colt Ralliart for ten years and miss that car. Perhaps the Proton is a worthy replacement!

    • @vicsomeone
      @vicsomeone Год назад

      À🤩😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘

    • @princesssolace4337
      @princesssolace4337 Год назад +7

      Fun Fact - everything in Lancer Evo 1 - 3 can be swap in it if u delete the transfer case to the rear wheel drive.
      Minimal mod at the rear for the diff and tank.

  • @MrCarrera28
    @MrCarrera28 Год назад +11

    Engine was from a Mitsubishi Lancer GSR without the Turbo and it only came in silver. This engine was a good option because it meant the engine was designed for a lot more power than it had and was very robust. In Australia it came standard with a Blaupunkt stereo that could be heard from a suburb away if you cranked it up 😄
    In Australia Proton really tried to sell the car and it was priced competitively at $28k which was cheaper than the VTEC Civic (which looked great on the exterior but had a bland shopping cart interior) and it was cheaper than the Peugeot 206 GTi (which looked svelte and French on the exterior but poorly made on the interior and lacking those Recaro seats)
    I can remember that when I had a problem with the stereo which they simply replaced and a week later they sent me a box with a key ring, watch and sunglasses all branded with the GTi logo and of decent quality. One year later at the Sydney Motor Show when I told the salesman I had one he immediately went away and excitedly showed me the new front badge for the car which had a lion rather then the more prosaic star logo mine came with. When I said I liked it, he simply gave it to me for free.
    The exhaust that it came with was poorly engineered and sounded uninspiring. However, if you fitted a custom exhaust with redesigned headers the exhaust freed up some mid range torque and power and added some lovely noise. Plus with a custom exhaust you got rid of those horrible square exhaust tips. Fast 4s magazine in Australia did a special on the car where they fixed a number fo small things which dramatically improved the overall package.
    Copying their exhaust set up I fitted a nice system that was 2.5 inches the whole way, with rubber bushings on each bracket (front wheel drive motors move east west not north south so the exhaust can bang against mounting brackets the rubber bushings meant there was no metal on metal clanging), and a polished muffler in the back and two nice 2.5 pipes curving out on each side.
    It handled well but at the limit it was prone to transition without warning and I can remember it snapping from understeer to power oversteer without warning. Fitting adjustable sway bars and front strut brace helped to dial out some of snap transition once adjusted to your taste.
    Came with some of the best Michelin tyres I have ever had on a car but unfortunately their price come replacement time was well outside my budget.
    The Recaro seats were fantastic, however the silver middles were very easy to stain and once stained cleaning them was almost impossible so it was definitely a no eating car, plus it was my first introduction to metal gearknob and the pain these deliver to your hands when the car was parked outside on a hot Australian Summer.
    I had four years of reliable motoring with the car and the only negative was the brand saw people turn up their nose, but it invariably only took one drive in the car for them to change their mind and realise it was a good car that made you smile on an affordable budget

    • @WayarPutuih
      @WayarPutuih 3 дня назад

      I still kept the 2005' Satria GTi R3. 150 silver GTi were hand stripped, stitch weld the chassis and put all back together by hand .... they switch the color to black and throw in a pair of SR4 Recaros, MOMO steering wheels, CF gear knob and rear spoiler. It got 5 spoke 16" Advanti wheels, 205/45/16 Yokohama Advan Neova AD07 when regular GTi came with Michelin.
      From the factory, the fog lamps, SRS airbag, ABS, catalytic converter and power side mirrors been deleted to help cut the weight from 1050kg to 980kg.
      Factory warranty included in mild Stg 1 up to Stg 3 performance power/handling mods.
      Just think of it like the Porsche GT watever RS for Proton Satria GTi.

    • @MrCarrera28
      @MrCarrera28 3 дня назад +1

      @@WayarPutuih The R3 was a beast and the single best improvement was fitting SR4 Recaro's. A set of proper bucket seats is worth at least 0.5 seconds a lap due to being better locked in.
      Plus the silver cloth on the original Recaros marked so easily that even spilling water on them could mark them and the SR4's even with red centres didn't mark as easily.
      We never got the R3 in Australia unfortunately. I hope you are able to keep yours forever as it is a car that makes you smile and even today it just looks right.
      👍👍👍👌👌👌

    • @WayarPutuih
      @WayarPutuih 3 дня назад

      @@MrCarrera28 Fun Fact about the 4g93p .. the head from a 4g92, 1.6 MiVEC Mirage Cyborg R can plug and play in both 4g93t and 4g93p ... u can also use the 11.5:1 piston compression ratio from the Cyborg R into the Satria, take the gearbox with LSD while u are at it.
      For the Lancer GSR, the MiVEC head is sufficient enuff to create MiVEC Turbo.
      The party trick? Get a period correct standalone ECU and tune it to 100 octane pump gas (we don't get e85) -
      Haltech Sport 500 (my personal fav) or a MoTEC m400. Swap the old ignition for COP and instantly usher the car into modern era.
      I sure hope u can stumble for a decent enuff Lancer GSR and do a 4g93t block mated to a 4g92 MiVEC head and rev dat thing up to 8500rpm - 9000rpm😆

    • @MrCarrera28
      @MrCarrera28 3 дня назад

      @@WayarPutuih Out of my budget, I hope you can make it happen.
      What about brakes? With all that extra power would you fit bigger brakes?

    • @WayarPutuih
      @WayarPutuih 3 дня назад +1

      @@MrCarrera28 the front 2 pot calipers off a GSR, Evo 2 and 3 is another plug and play item along with the Evo lower arm. The spring loaded clutch pedal from GSR till Evo 4 can also fit in the Satria GTi.
      Actually I've got 2 different head setup on my 05' R3. Did it back in 2010 - I'm on the (a) set up for daily use. (b) is for track day at Sepang😁
      a) Head+intake manifold from the GSR bcoz the ports are larger from GTi head. No need for me to waste time and money to port the stock head.
      b) Cyborg R head+cams+intake manifold bcoz it can rev to 9000rpm.
      Stock cams+crank+con rod+bearings. Stock fuel pump+injectors.
      Power R kevlar blue timing belt coz u can reach 300,000km and it's still gud. Gives me peace of mind.😁
      Hi comp pistons from Cyborg R
      Oil pump from Cyborg R
      LSD from Cyborg R.
      Evo 3 front calipers+clutch pedal+ front lower arm to widen the front track.
      I swap the head bolt for ARP head studs.
      Solid rubber engine mounts on the cross member with stock mount on driver+passenger side.
      Haltech Sport 500+k20 COP tuned to 100 octane pump gas.

  • @kumaraparamasivam7367
    @kumaraparamasivam7367 Год назад +5

    I'm thrilled to see your appreciation for Malaysia. As a proud Malaysian myself, I couldn't agree more. Proton is truly remarkable, with so much to offer.

  • @Tolaves
    @Tolaves Год назад +25

    Perfect start to the weekend with a JayEmm upload !

  • @workdesu
    @workdesu Год назад +52

    the steering should have no bussiness whatsoever being that loose. there might be a problem with the mounting bushes and/or tie rod (inner/ends). it's an over 20 years old car after all..i have both a Gti and base model satria and even that have more direct steering feel than this one. nevertheless what a fine example you got. cant believe there's still good ones like this in the UK. great and unbiased review as always Jay. glad that you find it likeable

  • @TheM5Dog
    @TheM5Dog Год назад +89

    The contemporary Golf GTi would have come in a few flavours around this time. 2.0 8v(!) n/a 115bhp, 1.8 20v n/a 125bhp, 1.8 20v turbo 150bhp and 1.8 20v 180bhp. The Proton was certainly up there in terms of power when compared to the Golf.

    • @zaxlorax7605
      @zaxlorax7605 Год назад +3

      I'm fairly sure the golf 3 gti came in 2.0 8v and 2.0 150hp 16v spec though🙏

    • @yoshi555king
      @yoshi555king Год назад +2

      @@zaxlorax7605 98 mk4 gti already so 20vt turbo

  • @xkimopye
    @xkimopye Год назад +5

    My dad’s friend bought 2 of these brand new for racing, he took me for a ride on the racetrack, and it performed well against the more powerful cars. Loved them since.

  • @chocomintmonza
    @chocomintmonza Год назад +16

    If you ever come to Malaysia you should definitely try and get your hands to sampling stuff like the Neo R3, GTI R3 and so on. Not much English reviews on them either

  • @jacobfoster6773
    @jacobfoster6773 Год назад +41

    Regarding the "Handling by Lotus" badge, apparently the parts that were changed over from the regular satria to the GTi share part numbers with the Evo 3 meaning that lotus had nothing to do with them. Was essentially just a marketing exercise by proton saying "Hey, we own lotus by the way".

    • @tiadaid
      @tiadaid Год назад +23

      The entire car is a Mitsubishi Colt with Proton badges, so not surprising that you can find Mitsubishi parts all around.
      If I recall, Lotus fiddled with the suspension settings.

    • @MrAntimationStudios
      @MrAntimationStudios Год назад +12

      You're probably thinking of the rear hubs and/or trailing arms, that was just so the GTI could have rear discs instead of the standard drums. Lotus tuned the spring and damper settings, alledgedly they made the springs softer and the dampers firmer, which is classic lotus. Very hard to say for certain as nothing has been verified with lotus or proton.

    • @warrendibb394
      @warrendibb394 Год назад +5

      A friend scar was T boned at an intersection and in repairing and replacing parts were found with Lotus markings.

    • @asmrlova
      @asmrlova Год назад

      If that were true, people could've sued and there would've been court cases. So, do you have actual proof or are you just talking outta your ass?

    • @mimimimeow
      @mimimimeow Год назад +5

      @@MrAntimationStudios to my knowledge Satria GTi's suspension setting was indeed tuned by Lotus Hethel, later on Proton made identical copy of Hethel development tools in Malaysia.

  • @thomascharnock
    @thomascharnock Год назад +26

    I owned a Proton Impian for several years and it was great. So no, not the only good Proton!

  • @chartreux1532
    @chartreux1532 Год назад +71

    Can't say it's forgotten here in Germany, but just unknown. I guess because they didn't sell it outside of the UK i assume? I can't even find one on the biggest German Marketplace.
    That said, it's always fun to learn about Cars that i never heard of.
    Prost & Cheers from the Bavarian Alps

    • @AB-on1on
      @AB-on1on Год назад +10

      They sold the Proton Satria here for some years as the Proton 300-series back in the days, if I remember correctly you could buy the GTI as 318 GTI, but I'm thinking they didn't sell in larger numbers. Proton was just a cheap brand even below the Hyundais and Kias of that days and didn't sell more than 2000 cars in a year here for the whole line up.

    • @rc70ys
      @rc70ys Год назад +8

      It ( Satria Gti ) was sold in Australia 🇦🇺

    • @princesssolace4337
      @princesssolace4337 Год назад +4

      They sold a LHD in France. Couple of years back there are 2 NOS LHD unit for sale in Malaysia.

    • @azrulsaleh2858
      @azrulsaleh2858 Год назад +3

      One of the GTis sold in Germany is now in Puerto Rico

    • @stei.f
      @stei.f Год назад

      I do still drive one in Germany. Following KBA 2023 there are only 10left (registered) in whole Germany.

  • @letsrugem
    @letsrugem Год назад +5

    glad to see some people in the UK still appreciate this car.

  • @tallblokesam
    @tallblokesam Год назад +5

    Loved our little Satria, the wife's first car about 10 years ago. It drove really really well, felt a bit flimsy but never went wrong during 3 years of ownership.

  • @bosshop
    @bosshop Год назад +2

    Never thought that I will ever see this car again,let alone driven outside Msia! Thank you for reliving the memory,it is one of the iconic Proton during its time.

  • @mattbettany1174
    @mattbettany1174 Год назад +5

    I worked at a Fiat and Alfa dealer back in the 00s and we took on Proton and Ssangyong for our sins . The Proton Wira was dismal but I fondly remember running a Satria GTI as a demonstrator for a few months and it was an absolute hoot to drive . Great to see one on the road again

  • @cmsgt4
    @cmsgt4 Год назад +6

    Whenever I go to Malaysia I see these with turbo mitsu swaps. Some actually look cool.

  • @simonhutton1
    @simonhutton1 Год назад +5

    Yes Jay! An old friend of mine Rallies one of these here in Wales.

  • @NeoR3
    @NeoR3 Год назад +2

    This is our proud and joy as Malaysia when it was first release in 1998. Lotus ride and handling does the wonders!

  • @mindfixer4you
    @mindfixer4you Год назад +8

    These were very popular in Australia. Many were used as cop cars for pursuit. They also had square or triangular tailpipes - can't remember which. But they were always misaligned!

  • @user-ob4sf5bk8p
    @user-ob4sf5bk8p Год назад +2

    I use to work roadshows for a car care company back in the 2000s, they had this car promoting more or less every event, drag racing, stunts, show stands etc etc even got a drive, was a great blast!

  • @whumanati3927
    @whumanati3927 Год назад +9

    Always liked these gtis. My old man had a proton way back when and as i recall it was a decent motor.

  • @Richard-Bullock
    @Richard-Bullock Год назад +5

    I totally agree with your conclusion. Since when did us car people buy a car for logical reasons? Never! We buy cars that appeal to us in a primal way, even with and often despite the knowledge of the particular car's flaws and foibles.

    • @princesssolace4337
      @princesssolace4337 Год назад +2

      we buy cars , not appliance.😊

    • @Richard-Bullock
      @Richard-Bullock Год назад

      @@princesssolace4337 I totally agree. Though one of my cars does contradict that, as it really is nothing more than a transport appliance. But it does it so well.

    • @princesssolace4337
      @princesssolace4337 Год назад +1

      @@Richard-Bullock We all need a boring appliance to get us from point A - B as a daily.

  • @markonmotoring
    @markonmotoring Год назад +17

    I do remember there being a buzz around these cars at the time and the comparisons to cars like the 106 GTI you mentioned.
    It's great to see that the owner of this rare car has been sympathetic with regard to keeping it going and in near factory condition.
    The built in sneeze factor in the steering may not be all that uncommon for the period. I know that like the Ford Ka we had years ago for example had very quick steering but my mk1 Mégane coupe is eager enough to change direction and grips well but does seem to require a bit more steering input than my modem daily, I'm not sure if that's down to.the rack or simply a slightly larger diameter steering wheel.

    • @jimmyfarley5581
      @jimmyfarley5581 Год назад

      He does say on 2 occasions 206 gti. Which was available in 140bhp guise around the time the Proton launched. Yes the 106 gti was still on sale too.

  • @Antspray1
    @Antspray1 Год назад +2

    I really love watching you as an American. Never even remotely heard of proton.

  • @satishvenkat005
    @satishvenkat005 Год назад +3

    Thank you very much bro, the Satria GTI is a Malaysian Legend 😎

  • @lancewood1410
    @lancewood1410 Месяц назад +2

    Actually there were only 3 good Protons and they all had the same 4G93 in them. The 2 door Satria GTi, the 2 door Putra coupe and the 4 door 1.8 Wira with the mitsubishi evo1 rear wing.

  • @yada1626
    @yada1626 Год назад +11

    From where I'm from, these little hatchbacks gave the community to explore themselves into multiple racing scenes; from circuit racers, cross-country, mountain-touge enthusiast, highway racers to your typical Uncle's car., usually the typical Black Sheep of the family. It's a bit unfortunate for what happen when these got exported for the EU market. I still don't think it's worth for the price for performance but with it being a quirky oddity with low surviving units around, it does make sense I guess.
    We had an abundant of early gen Satria's and it was affordable back then. They would often be reborn with Lancer engines, ie the Mivec of the same period or received a full engine swap with the 4G6x engines from Mitsubishi (early Lancer Evo's, Mitsubishi SUV & trucks). These were really affordable and has a healthy modification scene for it to this day. For what it was here, it left a good legacy and gave everyone's their first when it came out, especially it was locally made.
    Thank you for making these reviews❤

  • @eminzide
    @eminzide Год назад +2

    I owned a Satria GTi for 10 years.... 99-09.... love the Lotus tuned handling..... greetings from KL Malaysia

  • @MrAntimationStudios
    @MrAntimationStudios Год назад +17

    The main reason to buy one 5 years ago was price, I used to see decent examples with MOT advertised for 500 pounds in the UK owner's group, similar prices or less here in Australia. They've really shot up in the last year though, one in rough shape sold for close to 20K AUD a few months back.

    • @dexpranodvszky1850
      @dexpranodvszky1850 Год назад +1

      What's happened to aussie car values? car markets have gone a little nuts the world over but the prices seem to be absolutely exploding down there.

    • @MohdHafiz-fn7vx
      @MohdHafiz-fn7vx Год назад

      @@dexpranodvszky1850 coz its literally mitsubishi mirage clone with lotus handling..u can slap 4g63t from mitsubishi evo under it hood without major change..basically P&P..

  • @edwardfletcher7790
    @edwardfletcher7790 Год назад +11

    These cars were quite popular in Australia in the early 2000's 👍
    They have that lovely torquey 4G Mitsubishi engine. Completely the opposite of the high revving Hondas 😆
    European hot hatches were much more expensive locally....

  • @hafiziskandar5576
    @hafiziskandar5576 Год назад +1

    my mom was one of the rnd member for this car. and my dad also had one of these. good old days.

  • @danniskong
    @danniskong Год назад +1

    still keeping a MMC version of satria gti.still put a smile on it when throwing a corner at weekend night

  • @Highlander226
    @Highlander226 Год назад +4

    We never had much of a choice until this showed up in Malaysia.
    It was ‘affordable’ and ‘rather nippy’ ….
    The Lotus badge helped to push sales.

  • @zanmansor4255
    @zanmansor4255 Год назад +3

    There is a company in Malaysia that restore Satria GTI to factory condition and sell it. When it was introduced it was during the late 90's economic crisis and Proton wasn't sure if it will sell. Lotus badge aside people did buy it coz there was no hot hatch equivalent then. It was launched together with Proton Perdana V6 (a rebadged Mitsu Eterna) ang both were selling very well which caught Proton by surprise. It was Proton's first foray into hot hatch and mid size car with V6. Till now people are pinning for the return of Satria GTI but don't think it will happen as Proton is part owned by Geely now.

  • @AntoniusTyas
    @AntoniusTyas Год назад +27

    In Melayu language (that is Malaysian and Indonesian), 'Satria' translates as 'Knight'. If I were a knight in shining armour driving a base Proton Satria (used as old ratty taxi here in Indonesia) to save a princess from a fire-breathing dragon, said princess would have sent me away in disgust and I would have needed a consultation and counseling with said fire-breathing dragon about how to cope with heartache and rejection.
    If it's this one, though, I would not mind a rejection. Looks like a pack of fun, the Satria GTi.

  • @christopherjohnston6343
    @christopherjohnston6343 Год назад +9

    In New Zealand we did get the Sedan or coupe Lancer with the 1.8L engine. I assume it's a similar sort of situation. We also got the Mirage Cyborg which had a 1.6L with 170hp though it never lived up to the reputation of the Levin, Civic and Pulsar for some reason.

  • @shahrilazwa9117
    @shahrilazwa9117 Год назад +1

    Im proud to be Malaysian boy.. this is very rare species PROTON . Thank you for you Sir. 😘🤗

  • @antoniogoncalves8010
    @antoniogoncalves8010 Год назад +1

    Vídeo is good, his format, kind reminds me of old top gear, when they were sensible and we're actually bringing car journalism instead of random shenanigans

  • @faa3734
    @faa3734 Год назад +2

    OMG never i believe for this car to be featured on this channel. Favorite channel and my favorite car. Thank you

  • @Blackopme
    @Blackopme Год назад +2

    I used to own one in 2006, it was a fun car and one of the best ever. Had so much fun in it. I had mine lowered and the steering wheel is heavy when you driving slow and when you go fast the control is good 👍🏽 .. it’s also manuel car which is awesome , racing through traffic on the highway was fun but now you can’t because cameras everywhere

  • @ezoray
    @ezoray Год назад +9

    I had one of these! Great car, very light compared to the Corolla T-Sport I have now, and very reliable. I did 150k miles in it with no issues apart from the fuel pump. I don't know how many miles it had when I got rid of it as the odometer died but would have been around 230k. Was pretty worn out by then and it was rear-ended unfortunately so had to go. I never modified mine but there are options thanks to its Mitsubishi heritage, I think someone put early Evo mechanicals in theirs. They're a fun little warm hatch if you can still find one.

  • @RAEVE.EDITZ72
    @RAEVE.EDITZ72 Год назад +1

    Never expected a video of satria gti after 23 years

  • @Cust0mBuilder
    @Cust0mBuilder Год назад +3

    I own one of these babies here in Queensland Australia. They're a great fun hot hatch that no body knows about.

  • @Low760
    @Low760 Год назад +27

    They seemed to sell pretty well in Australia, but I've not seen one in years, was cheaper than the any gti car here at under 30k new. Now I'm going to look it up.

    • @tanssi2145
      @tanssi2145 Год назад +3

      I collect Hot4’s tuner magazines and you see some absolutely mental show car builds with them, good times! I also love the Proton ‘Jumbuck’ still see them going strong

  • @MrBinnie824
    @MrBinnie824 Год назад +60

    The later Lotus-fettled Satria Neo seems to be also forgotten as if someone actually went and erased its existence from history.

    • @hybridShinx
      @hybridShinx Год назад +6

      Proton lost it after 2002, the Satria NEO was a joke

    • @daengzool6023
      @daengzool6023 Год назад +5

      @@hybridShinx Satria Neo S2000 rally cars were driven in WRC also driven by Top Gear UK vs Top Gear Au sometime ago. Now we have Proton Iriz R5 rally cars driven in British Rally events.

    • @hybridShinx
      @hybridShinx Год назад +2

      @@daengzool6023 but those arent Proton cars anymore arent they

    • @daengzool6023
      @daengzool6023 Год назад +3

      @@hybridShinx They are.

    • @daengzool6023
      @daengzool6023 Год назад +6

      @@hybridShinx I have 2 Proton Iriz myself, gave them to my son and daughter, great drive and good chasis too.

  • @marksheppard899
    @marksheppard899 8 месяцев назад +1

    I had one of these back in the day, loved it, it was a fun drive.got rid of it because things started to go wrong with it's age and it was so expensive to repair as you had to use proton parts to repair as there was not patient parts. I remember the mid pipe for the exhaust cost me about £800 back in 2004.

  • @chriswalford9228
    @chriswalford9228 Год назад +4

    Four of the most reliable cars I've owned since 1977 Mitsubishi Lancer and Colt Proton Emerald and concept

  • @sickedhero
    @sickedhero Год назад +2

    I have drive many cars. Japanese and Continental. From low to high end (other people cars of course). Satria Neo was the only car I wish I can drive again, the handling in country road was superb.

  • @stargazeronesixseven
    @stargazeronesixseven Месяц назад +1

    😊🙏 Yes ... The Lotus tuned Proton Satria GTi of the 1998! The only Proton many still loved & feel proud to drive & sit on it ... Thank You So Much for the honest & enjoyable review! 🌷🌿🌍✌💜🕊🇲🇾🇬🇧

  • @firstinlast7151
    @firstinlast7151 Год назад +2

    Our 🇲🇾 favourite car... Thankx for review our great automotive memory.

  • @jounalehtio2317
    @jounalehtio2317 Год назад +4

    Its got that early 2000's GTA / Burnout unlicensed vehicle look

  • @waverider8130
    @waverider8130 Год назад +1

    Satria Neo R3 Lotus Limited Edition comes with Lotus livery,carbon fiber hood & fender,shock system by Ohlins,Engine had been tuned for more performance,Brakes from AP Racing...so much goodies...u should try it...

  • @gab80y
    @gab80y Год назад +4

    In Australia you still see these come up with 4G/Evo engines. Alway wanted one

  • @davidsimpson2709
    @davidsimpson2709 Год назад +5

    If my memory serves me correctly, Humberside Police had at least one as a 'pursuit' vehicle back around 1999/2000.

  • @YouTube.Malaysia
    @YouTube.Malaysia Год назад +1

    I had this car back in 2001 and used it for a couple of years.. A very good car I must say.

  • @FAT8893
    @FAT8893 Год назад +4

    Still one of my favourite cars ever made by Proton, alongside the Putra. It's a shame that we aren't seeing this kind of car anymore because most people prefer high-riding SUVs.

  • @keithhooper6123
    @keithhooper6123 Месяц назад +1

    Nice to see this almost forgotten model.

  • @demogaming8895
    @demogaming8895 Год назад +9

    I'd only recently learned about Proton, and I have to say they have some cool and interesting cars. Didn't know they were also sold in the UK, because they weren't sold anywhere else in Europe as far as I know

    • @brianljh8982
      @brianljh8982 Год назад +1

      Unfortunately, they only sold in RHD markets meaning countries who drives on the left side of the road only has them and UK is one of them. Rarely seen them sell these in LHD markets.

  • @Leon-mx2up
    @Leon-mx2up Год назад +1

    Loads of these on Irish roads from the early 00s until a few years ago. We all loved them as teenagers because you could insure it as a normal starlet and get away with it 😅

  • @kotarojujo2737
    @kotarojujo2737 Год назад +4

    We got this car as sedan version in Indonesia, its called Lancer GTI. Same 4g93 dohc engine, although with different mapping. Some proton version I think got either VDO/Siemens ECU and others are Mitsubishi.

    • @zounds010
      @zounds010 Год назад +2

      Proton bought the design from Mitsubishi. Mitsubishi moved to the next generation Lancer/Colt and sold the old one to Proton. Proton did some modifications to create the GTI, with help from Lotus.

    • @kotarojujo2737
      @kotarojujo2737 Год назад +3

      @@zounds010 yes, but mostly suspension and chassis works.

  • @bristolmod
    @bristolmod 4 месяца назад +1

    I had a Proton GTI in the early 2000's- great little car,. Should have kept it.

  • @zaimhazmin8851
    @zaimhazmin8851 Год назад +2

    aaah this car brings me back memories.. sold my 2nd batch gen satria gti year 2000 bout 6years back. its a fun car.. and i miss it a lot. sadly very hard to maintain due to obsolete 4g93 parts. blown 3engine blocks in mine before finally decide to sell it

  • @tiadaid
    @tiadaid Год назад +5

    Get ready for an influx of Malaysian commenters.
    It seems the Satria GTI really hit the sweet spot everywhere. A pity they didn't make a follow up Satria GTI based on the Satria Neo model.

    • @MrAntimationStudios
      @MrAntimationStudios Год назад +2

      They did, just only in Malaysia. They had the CPS, R3 (several different R3 models actually), the Clubsport, and the R3 lotus racing edition.

    • @tiadaid
      @tiadaid Год назад +1

      @@MrAntimationStudios I know about the CPS R3, but to be honest I don’t view it as a follow up for the GTI because it was more hardcore, and it was a small run model unlike the GTI.

    • @mimimimeow
      @mimimimeow Год назад

      @@MrAntimationStudios No there wasn't, the CPS and R3 ones are not deemed successors even by Proton. There was a proper Satria Neo GTi planned alongside Proton's Project Sepang (you know it today as Lotus Europa S, obvious Gen-2 design language) but it was cancelled.

  • @tryhardfighter1833
    @tryhardfighter1833 Год назад +1

    i'm malaysian. Feel so proud that a company DRb-HiCOM owns is mentioned on a global scale. Kudos to you!

  • @wakeup6755
    @wakeup6755 Год назад +2

    Not many left in UK now and i have one stashed away!

  • @dickie8184
    @dickie8184 Год назад +1

    I've purchased, and sold cars to Christian. He's a great guy, with a screwed on head. He deals in my perfect period of cars. I wish him all the best.
    The Proton to me looks like 3 cars that have been cut and shut. MG ZR, citroen saxo, and early civic. Remember being a passenger in one 20 years ago. It didn't seem very special, but different from the usual German/French stuff of the time.

  • @jonctr
    @jonctr Год назад +4

    Great review - I remember these in this era I ended up with a 206 GTi that you mentioned (and later px'd that for my CTR)

    • @princesssolace4337
      @princesssolace4337 Год назад

      Proton made a limited version (150 unit) in a mould of EK9. It's called Satria R3 GTi and only in black.

  • @reixie
    @reixie Год назад +2

    Satri in english meant knight for anyone wondering

  • @arsyadidris6349
    @arsyadidris6349 Год назад +2

    Another good proton would arguably be the impian, and it is a mishmash of interesting things. Lets see:
    -90s volvo S40 chassis
    -90s mitsubishi 4G engine
    -getrag 5speed manual
    -90s volkswagen jetta design inspiration
    Alot of 90s stuff… but released in the year 2000😅
    But yeah, reliable engine, solid chassis, slick gearbox. All in a compact 4door sedan. Mine now lives with my aunt, so its still in the family i guess. 20 years old and 407,000km. Good car.

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  • @Fedaykin24
    @Fedaykin24 Год назад +1

    Ah happy memories! When these were launched Proton had a test drive offer at the British motor show. Myself and my friends all 18 years old and with our first (rusty cars) went to the British motorshow at Earls Court and filled in the form to have a test drive of this car. I ended up going to a car dealership near Hastings where myself and my young friends all got to take it for a test drive...over the Fiat Uno 60S I owned at the time it was awesome! It was a great car and a testament that even the most boring of cars can be tweaked into a fun hot hatch!

  • @redmi9anio
    @redmi9anio Год назад +9

    As a East Malaysian (Sarawak) no matter what they say, i am and i will always be proud of Proton. 👍 Malaysia Boleh !

    • @joejunior861
      @joejunior861 Год назад

      Boleh copy.

    • @danzaini5787
      @danzaini5787 Год назад

      Malaysia Boleh 🇲🇾

    • @redmi9anio
      @redmi9anio Год назад +1

      Honda pun banyak copy. Toyota pun ramai yang lain copy. Itulah namanya berkongsi kepakaran teknologi. Apa ada hal.?.? Kau jangan bebal sangat.@@joejunior861

    • @muhammad52farouk43
      @muhammad52farouk43 Год назад +1

      @@redmi9anio haha mamat tu jenis yg letak sticker D1 dekat kereta front wheel drive....Satri GTI harga x turun...skrg ada Malaysian kompeni yg buat full restoration...satu2 nya kereta yg menyesal aku jual satria GTI...feeling memang lain klu bawak keretani...omputihni cakap betul...the best car proton ever produced👍👍

    • @redmi9anio
      @redmi9anio Год назад

      😆😅 Aku syak dia tu mungkin indo yang dengki@@muhammad52farouk43

  • @ironguy6482
    @ironguy6482 Год назад +8

    I've heard that a fair few of the GTi's in the UK have been converted to road or gravel rally cars.

    • @chiefrocka8604
      @chiefrocka8604 Год назад

      More like you know they are due to the fact Mitsubishi rally parts fit thus meaning they are a cheap alternative to rallying

  • @D.E.G.G.
    @D.E.G.G. Год назад +2

    I believe our funny little city had something of this sort frequent our streets, a substantial amount of time ago 😄

  • @rcfp2006
    @rcfp2006 Год назад +1

    Saw one of these in Brisbane Australia with a 4G63 engine conversion. Still remains one of only two of these I've ever seen.

  • @ianstoys13mgs
    @ianstoys13mgs Год назад +1

    Back in the day I had a customer who had one of these and absolutely loved it. woudnt be surprised if he still has it and is one of the 53 !!

  • @karnevilGS
    @karnevilGS 5 месяцев назад

    This car is now mine.
    Added it to my collection and is now my second Satria GTI.
    What you say about the gearshift is correct,I used to make short shifters for them,and have one on my other GTI but I am keeping this stock.
    However I do disagree with you on the steering, it's very positive and I feel quite quick.
    These are great cars and so much fun

  • @colinjones2505
    @colinjones2505 Год назад +4

    Lovely traditional looking car that, and was fairly successful in the clubmans rallying world too.

  • @silvermovermedia9737
    @silvermovermedia9737 Год назад +3

    Jay. Have you heard of the Proton Gen2 CPS High-Line. I bought one new in Thailand in 2008. It too had handling by Lotus, this version has the Proton Campro CPS engine, 1.6 litre displacement, made 125 horsepower at 6,500rpm, and 150Nm of torque at 4,500rpm, while also making at least 139Nm from 3,000rpm onwards. Driving hands free down a bumpy dirt road it was able to keep a straight line due to well sorted suspension. It had a very well designed black leather with red trim interior, it was very good cheap car.

  • @safbeafbe
    @safbeafbe Год назад +2

    15:25 that camera angle is so cool.

  • @antonmealy168
    @antonmealy168 Год назад +4

    Interesting to see it. I briefly test drove a new one but after my B16 CRX the engine naturally seemed coarse and averse to higher revs. At least they put real effort into the restyle with it's wheels, wings & bolt-on wheel arches it probably didn't really need, but gave it a memorable personality. Before the GTi they also sold a few M21 coupe in Australia with the same motor, but that just looked like a cheap old Mitsubishi Lancer coupe with the Proton bonnet & got little attention.

    • @Jeff_F7
      @Jeff_F7 Год назад

      Hey, that's an idea. I wonder how easy it would be to swap in a honda b16A into one of these. And then see if there's a quicker steering rack from another car that would also be able to be swapped in. Combine that with the lotus handling and you have a little hot hatch beast. Alternatively, you can just find an ek civic vti, but the proton is more unique and different. I also really the styling details and the overall shape. It's a clean yet aggressive looking shape with a proper 3 door body, unlike hot hatches of today that only come in 5 door, which is sad. Today's hot hatches would look miles better with 3 door body styles.

  • @mihaglumpak1045
    @mihaglumpak1045 Год назад +1

    Saw this on my way to highschool everyday and I remember how, I wanted one.

  • @khair_nizam5572
    @khair_nizam5572 Год назад +1

    My dreams car at that era. But monthly instalments makes me headache. Quite expensive. Thanks admin to reviews this car. From Malaysia with love .😊