This feels AWESOME! - Manjaro Beta 12 with Plasma Mobile 5.25 First Impressions
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- Опубликовано: 10 июл 2022
- In this video, I install the latest Manjaro ARM Beta 12 with KDE Plasma Mobile 5.25 on my PinePhone Pro and review new shell features! This somehow took the whole day to make, so please consider leaving a like, commenting some feedback, and sharing with friends.
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=== Video Context ===
I recently bought a Linux-first phone called the PinePhone Pro from a company called Pine64. Pine64 made the hardware but none of the software for the device. However, there is a variety of software available that is created by the open-source software community. In this video, I use the terminal to update the packages (pieces of software) on the device. I then showcase some of the new changes in the software since the last release from Manjaro, the distribution I am using. Do note that they are not the ones making the software, but rather the ones pushing the new versions out to those using their distribution of Linux for ARM devices.
=== References ===
forum.manjaro.org/t/manjaro-a...
plasma-mobile.org/2022/04/26/...
plasma-mobile.org/2022/06/28/...
=== Music Credits ===
EspiDev - Lovefall (Licensed under CC BY 3.0)
EspiDev - Calibre (Licensed under CC BY 3.0)
EspiDev - Dreamy (Licensed under CC BY 3.0)
Video title: This feels AWESOME! - Manjaro Beta 12 with Plasma Mobile 5.25 First Impressions
Production date; July 11th, 2022
Release date: July 12th, 2022.
Thanks for watching! ❤️
This looks the most smooth and snappy I’ve ever seen on a pinephone. If they could just fix the battery issues it would appear to be daily driver ready.
I currently get a little over an hour of constant usage from 100 to 0 percent which is not at all suitable for my daily driver needs. I am concerned that due to the power hungry modem and SoC that this can’t be significantly improved anytime soon (if at all). I am also concerned about heat as the phone get worryingly hot under load. Also, while I'm sure this will be fixed, Plasma shell crashes quite a lot (but is able to automatically recover in ~8-10 seconds unless it's the "loginctl" one) that can get annoying. Besides all of that (and the camera function), I'd say the device is ready. I'm currently enjoying it at home as a mini tablet (since I can't bring it outside/away from a charger).
@@ItsMCBHere thanks for that elaboration on the battery power. I bought the braveheart edition and then installed the updated board but I've skipped out on the pro version. Sounds like I will probably wait for the next iteration of the PinePhone which will hopefully be stable and daily driver ready by then.
Two issues interest me. Is it possible to encrypt LUKS the entire system? And is it possible to let go of the entire internet connection via the anonsurf?
@@johnrambo5053 Full disk encryption is possible on some PPP distros. I installed Anonsurf with Und3rf10w's kali-anonsurf installer on Mobian to test and it seems to work as my IP appears to be coming from a tor exit node.
I've never used KDE but I'm interested so possibly in the future. And you know that their mantra is to prioritize familiarity on out of the box experience then add customizability.
Right now, I'm really envious of Plasma Mobile. Before the Pinephone, its development seem stagnant but now it's full steam ahead. It might have more development in the past 3 years or so than Lomiri in the past ~7 years.
Light years ahead of phosh. Seriously phosh doesn't even give you home screens to add shortcut apps. Plus this looks surprisingly smooth considering the hardware. I'm impressed, maybe there's hope for it yet! Now we just need the battery life improved and we got us something :)
Sorry for missing your comment. It somehow got flagged for "bad words" in my dashboard. I also really hope the battery situation improves because that is the major thing holding it back from becoming my daily driver.
@@ItsMCBHere But I've seen people claim it's the phone's fault not the OS. Like some people claim to get a day of battery from a oneplus 6, which has only 3300mah so only 300mah more than the PPP. Can it be that the PPP is particularly hungry?
@@sinekonata The device is for sure power hungry. The SoC is not designed for a phone. There are also other unfortunate factors at play that I don't remember exactly. Nevertheless, optimizations can be made on the software side that may help the situation but not remedy it.
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Thank you 😃
Been tempted to install this on my Huawei P8 Lite. Its a disposable phone i have that ive been wanting to experiment on. Can this kind of operating system run desktop programs? As weird as that sounds. Ive never messed with this before and so ive been very curious since discovering ARM linux.
In the past Manjaro Plasma has struggled with calls and texting. How does the current release do? My PP has become my daily driver, but I've been using Mobian with Phosh for the past 6 months. I'm looking to do some more distro hopping but calls and texting are important since this is now my only cellphone.
I am unable to test texting or calling because I need my SIM to be in my reliable Android phone at the moment. I suggest asking the KDE and or Pine64 community Matrix channels the same question.
based to be privacy conscious and blurring out your WiFi SSID
If they will fix the power management in the next model I will definitely get one.
How does your battery life look like with this ?
I can't keep my battery from draining super quick just while in sleep mode.
I get around an hour and ten minutes of usage (screen on, apps open, navigating UI, not sleeping) the last time I tested it. If the device is sleeping the whole time, it can last about a day. I recently bought a battery case for the phone (not provided from Pine64) and plan to make a video on it's pro's and con's soon.
can you install flatpaks like signal etc
Yes! I currently have quite a few flatpaks installed including G4Music, PureMaps, and Shortwave Radio.
@@ItsMCBHere thats good news im currently running sailfish on sony 10 iii great phone but just certain software i need and flatpaks dont run on on sailfish so was looking for alternative is pinephone pro a daily driver yet
@@owlsy1971
I purchased a PinePhone Pro ~5 months ago. Basic things work as expected or with some tinkering such as needing to enter your carrier’s APN settings for all telephony features to work. I’ve installed Tow-Boot which lets me easily choose to boot the internal eMMC or microSD card. I am booting between the following setups: Manjaro ARM with Plasma Mobile and Mobian with Phosh.
The current experience is quite usable! I currently use the phone to browse the web, listen to music, and catch up on my RSS feeds. The native software selection is somewhat limited but generally not a problem because of web apps and Waydroid for running Android apps. While a good chunk of apps do scale correctly, many don’t. Also, some are not available for the ARM architecture.
The device is still not daily drivable yet. It probably won’t be for the next 6-12 months. Components like the camera are just starting to get early support in experimental kernels (xnux.eu/) and there are critical bugs. The most annoying one right now is that media will play at ~3x after waking up from suspend (ruclips.net/video/7piXOM8G2uQ/видео.html).
I currently get a little over an hour of constant usage from 100 to 0 percent which is not at all suitable for my daily driver needs. I am concerned that due to the power hungry modem and SoC that this can’t be significantly improved anytime soon (if at all). I am also concerned about heat as the phone get worryingly hot under load.
It feels like a Linux mobile renaissance of sorts because of all the exciting things happening right now. Work is being done to mainline (improve/rewrite old and or incompatible code/device blobs for the modern kernel) Android phones like Google’s Pixel 3 (check out fosstodon.org/@calebccff 's awesome work) which excites me the most.
There are other projects like Ubuntu Touch that are trying to create an ecosystem around their platform and have some support for Android devices through hardware abstraction layers (Halium) that works with the preexisting device blobs.
The PinePhone Pro is a big step in the right direction for privacy respecting Linux-first mobile devices. I am satisfied with my purchase, but not sure if it will ever become my daily driver over my more reliable yet aging Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge. A mainlined Android device will probably bring the reliability and power I need to finally switch full-time in the near future. I’m sure Linux-first devices will catch up too but it will take time.
Hope this helps!
you can theme your keyboard btw
Neat feature! Thanks for letting me know!
Can you try GNOME or phosh on the pinephone pro?
Are you asking if I can make a video on Phosh or if Phosh can be used on the PinePhone Pro in general? If it's the latter, then yes, you can use Phosh on PPP versions of Mobian, postmarketOS, Manjaro, etc.
@@ItsMCBHere would you consider making a on phosh?
@@themukster1 Yes! I'm currently waiting for the official release of Phosh 0.20 to make a video about it. The only problem is that it may take months for that new version to be released. Do you want to see a video on its current stable state, a video on the current but work-in-progress 0.20 version, or wait for version 0.20's official release?
@@ItsMCBHere I wouldn't mind seeing its current state, sincero I don't have a pinephone myself
@@themukster1 Sorry for taking so long. 0.20 released and I did a showcase of it here: ruclips.net/video/sS5TuHAMN_I/видео.html
Are RUclips and other videos fine? Is the music player fine...? How about maps? That's really all I need. Thanks.
I'd say they're pretty good depending on which ones we're talking about. The biggest issue with the phone is battery life. I wouldn't suggest buying it if you aren't able to always be plugged in if you intend to daily drive it.
@@ItsMCBHere Thanks mate! I appreciate that. I'm tired of android. I was really looking forward to Nokia's in house smartphone OS (they were always great about low battery consumption coding) but then Nokia hired the Microsoft shill (their second in command) who immediately killed the nearly complete Nokia new OS, and replaced it with Windows Phone. Where is windows phone now...? Sad!
I really hope that Google releases their RCS service to third party devs so people can make an RCS app that can communicate with Google Messages through RCS on this.
I think the Pinephone Pro is tooooo expensive, having in mind that they are NOT developing the software and have a lot of savings in that department, the pricing is abusive as there are other Android phones way more powerful than this one at that price range, they should consider making this phone more powerful if they wish to compete in the $400 US range.
They are not competing. Their business model is to make and sell hardware on margin. They are not focused on the PinePhone but rather to continue coming up with new hardware to sell such as the Pinecil or PineTime.
If they manage to come up with a flawless future model with absolutely smooth performance and outstanding battery life. I’m willing to pay 400 USD or even more.