Honestly I don’t know why it’s not enabled by default since width knob is useless for majority of times. Obviously you can set it as default on your own tho 😉
Mind blown. Hi again Zdrewe. I’ve been mixing for a long time and never used mid-side processing. Tonight for the first time I’m putting it into practice. I never even knew that shit was in the EQ. Such an incredibly powerful tool. Like someone else said. You’ve changed my life. You Rock. 🔥
So so glad I can help 🙏 yeah, mid side eq sounds too simple to be true yet honestly it cuts my old mixing/mastering chains in half. Have fun man and once again, glad you enjoy the vid!
Ok I guess I'll be the first to say it... The first before-&-after example of the 'overlap' between the bass synth and the pluck is not nearly enough of an 'issue' in my opinion to warrant any type of EQing, especially if this is not the drop section. Both instruments could've remained untouched- yet this point I'm making is emphatic to the most important nuance of mixing in general. It's all about what YOU want it to sound like. I do hear a more traditional EDM-style mix after the EQing technique Zdrewe applied, yet if you wanted the bass synth to instead blend in with the pluck in that area of the spectrum (which would leave the bass slightly less prominent in contrast to the pluck), it would've been perfectly fine to leave it as is. Personally, this song feels very generic in the sense that it's basically another cliche, spacey, royalty-free-esque type dance track that would play during the credits of a random RUclips tutorial or an outsourced product overview video on Amazon. With this in mind, I would choose to keep the bass blended with the pluck (no EQ cuts or bells/dips) in order to keep the mix flatter in the early section(s) of the song. Then I would build to something truly aggressive and mind-bending; capitalizing it with a drop of epic proportions. Only at that point, I would be concerned with making sure the bass synth(s) had enough room for their distorted low-mids to really shine & cut through most of the other elements/instruments. I think this is why mixing tutorials on youtube can be so misleading to a lot of amateur producers who don't yet understand an important yet fundamental philosophy of mixing; and that is that you can mix anything in any way, especially if you're trying to write music that stands out as unique. Everyone is always making room for their bass synth's low-mid saturation to cut through everything else in EVERY section of their projects because that's what they heard in a youtube tutorial or masterclass, when you really should be choosing to mix an element in a way that supports the underlying energy, story, and (most importantly) intention of the song itself.... Just my 2 cents
Damn, appreciate your detailed feedback and the overall opinion 🙏 just like you’ve mentioned (and as I said twice in the video) it all comes down to producer’s own decision and feeling the vibe of the track to make some eq moves or not.
I dont get this. The title of this video makes it clear this video is about mixing. Not creating an original song. Also to respond to the last part of your comment. Underlying energy and story are totally a huge part of it but that is also completely subjective to each song and mixer and again is a different aspect of mixing than this video was made to address. I feel like you wanted this video to be something other than what it was, which is fine. But ripping it for not being that is confusing.
@@franklopez4028 I never meant to 'rip' on it and I'm sorry if I came across in a negative way. For me, it's often difficult to correctly interpret the tone in which a stranger's comment was truly intended to be read, but I was just trying to as objective, honest, and clear as I possibly could. I actually really liked this video for a few reasons, but mainly because it encouraged me think deeper about why my method of approach differed from what Zdrewe did the first example in this video (addressing the bass synth & pluck overlap). I thought back to when I was only beginning to learn how to mix music. when I had initially struggled with grasping the concept I tried to explain in my initial comment. So I thought that if I shared it here, there was a possibility that other producers who don't have much experience mixing may benefit from me explaining it in a direct and well-thought-out manor. I think you may be misunderstanding me because when I say that people should 'mix an element in a way that supports the underlying energy, story, and (most importantly) intention of the song itself' - I am saying that the mix engineer must choose how they will support the 'energy, story, & intention' with the methods they choose to execute during the mix-down process. There's unlimited ways to mix a song, so the mixing engineer has to create a way that supports the 'energy, story, & intention' the original recording artist(s), band, and/or composer(s) wanted. I feel like it's an important point to reiterate and analyze often, as I find it helpful for continuously growing my perspective on music & sound.
Your videos are amazing, the quality of information is dense and videos the perfect length. Snappy presentation, to the point and no unnecessary fraff. two thumbs up like the fonz 👍🏼👍🏼
wow, was looking to find some plugin like that, and was wondering if some EQ could have some hack to show another track's frequency spectrum via sidechain
Well, the main purpose of Mix Matcher is to match to reference track but I think it works way better for mixing in general. If you want to get real in depth tho - Span is the best option 😉
Thanks a lot 🙏 usually “bad frequencies” or resonances can be found in 3-10kHz area but that highly depends on the track (you can go even as low as 1kHz. They’re caused by frequency buildups from layering different sounds or different sounds occupying similar spot. The way to identify them is usually by sweeping this frequency area with narrow bell curve although it can also be misleading. From my experience the best solution is either using tools like RESO by Mastering The Mix or Soothe. The “delta” mode in RESO gives a clear idea on where to find those. Both plugins have free trials and as long as Soothe is the goat, RESO deserve its flowers for being cheaper, more intuitive and more precise (last one in my opinion)
@@Zdrewe thanks i really apreaciate the help i really do, i did what you said rn and followed the video on my project couple hours ago and i swear its 200% clean and better now, every instrument has its own space now on the track thank you so much man you're a legend!! keep up the great work!
@Okta4Music so happy to hear that! 🫡 I mean, some blends in between instruments are necessary sometimes but in general the more clean separation you have between your main groups and instruments, the cleaner your mix will be
i dont see the sidechain option on spanplus on the vst in my rack and i also can only see channels L&R in the input routing, it doesnt show IN 4,5,6 etc. i clicked show all inputs and still nada?
I'm still deciding if I should get myself a Cubase or Ableton license, I've used my Ableton free period already but haven't had the time for it actually, now I do have time I'm checking out the free period of Cubase, but it's so damn unlogical and unnecessarily complicated. I preferred Ableton's ease of use, made more sense to me.
That really depends on what you do. I used Cubase a while ago but only for tracking vocals. Pretty sure that it got better when it comes to midi and producing but hey, you’re asking me - Ableton fanboy 😅
@@Zdrewe I don't think I'll be doing much with vocals at the start of my career, I'm a complete newbie, but I've got so much drive in me to start producing, I've literally been through a 30 year hell and I'm only 36, but it's all over! And I feel amazing! Got a passion for music especially DnB and can't wait to start producing, I don't even care if I ever become successful! I just want to make music from now on!!!
I think Ableton is the way to go, especially if you wanna do dnb or any electronic music genre. It is so polyvalent and easy to handle. Cubase is very powerful but too overwhelming for music producer. You sound very motivated to do some music ! Keep that state of mind and never give up, it will pay in the end. Looking forward to listent to your stuff tho ;)
How do you see that there is a conflict? is it in the area where the two frequencies overlap? and then I decide on one or the other instrument to remove the frequencies at this herz? Please help
Good shit for real, my dude! Great advice and examples, thank you for sharing. Sharing is caring! Yeah, they “bangers”, dunno what you're even talking about!!! 🫣🤗
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That mid side utility trick just changed my life
I was always wondering why I was getting that clicking static sound now I know its my stereo frequencies clashing and I just easily fixed it.
Honestly I don’t know why it’s not enabled by default since width knob is useless for majority of times. Obviously you can set it as default on your own tho 😉
Mind blown. Hi again Zdrewe. I’ve been mixing for a long time and never used mid-side processing. Tonight for the first time I’m putting it into practice. I never even knew that shit was in the EQ. Such an incredibly powerful tool. Like someone else said. You’ve changed my life. You Rock. 🔥
So so glad I can help 🙏 yeah, mid side eq sounds too simple to be true yet honestly it cuts my old mixing/mastering chains in half. Have fun man and once again, glad you enjoy the vid!
1:49 or you could map a filter to cut out the unwanted frequencies only when the two sounds are playing at the same time
I played myself since I’ve been taking about it on my stock Live plugins video 😅. Good call
Ok I guess I'll be the first to say it... The first before-&-after example of the 'overlap' between the bass synth and the pluck is not nearly enough of an 'issue' in my opinion to warrant any type of EQing, especially if this is not the drop section. Both instruments could've remained untouched- yet this point I'm making is emphatic to the most important nuance of mixing in general. It's all about what YOU want it to sound like. I do hear a more traditional EDM-style mix after the EQing technique Zdrewe applied, yet if you wanted the bass synth to instead blend in with the pluck in that area of the spectrum (which would leave the bass slightly less prominent in contrast to the pluck), it would've been perfectly fine to leave it as is. Personally, this song feels very generic in the sense that it's basically another cliche, spacey, royalty-free-esque type dance track that would play during the credits of a random RUclips tutorial or an outsourced product overview video on Amazon. With this in mind, I would choose to keep the bass blended with the pluck (no EQ cuts or bells/dips) in order to keep the mix flatter in the early section(s) of the song. Then I would build to something truly aggressive and mind-bending; capitalizing it with a drop of epic proportions. Only at that point, I would be concerned with making sure the bass synth(s) had enough room for their distorted low-mids to really shine & cut through most of the other elements/instruments. I think this is why mixing tutorials on youtube can be so misleading to a lot of amateur producers who don't yet understand an important yet fundamental philosophy of mixing; and that is that you can mix anything in any way, especially if you're trying to write music that stands out as unique. Everyone is always making room for their bass synth's low-mid saturation to cut through everything else in EVERY section of their projects because that's what they heard in a youtube tutorial or masterclass, when you really should be choosing to mix an element in a way that supports the underlying energy, story, and (most importantly) intention of the song itself.... Just my 2 cents
Damn, appreciate your detailed feedback and the overall opinion 🙏 just like you’ve mentioned (and as I said twice in the video) it all comes down to producer’s own decision and feeling the vibe of the track to make some eq moves or not.
This👌
I dont get this. The title of this video makes it clear this video is about mixing. Not creating an original song. Also to respond to the last part of your comment. Underlying energy and story are totally a huge part of it but that is also completely subjective to each song and mixer and again is a different aspect of mixing than this video was made to address. I feel like you wanted this video to be something other than what it was, which is fine. But ripping it for not being that is confusing.
@@franklopez4028 I never meant to 'rip' on it and I'm sorry if I came across in a negative way. For me, it's often difficult to correctly interpret the tone in which a stranger's comment was truly intended to be read, but I was just trying to as objective, honest, and clear as I possibly could. I actually really liked this video for a few reasons, but mainly because it encouraged me think deeper about why my method of approach differed from what Zdrewe did the first example in this video (addressing the bass synth & pluck overlap). I thought back to when I was only beginning to learn how to mix music. when I had initially struggled with grasping the concept I tried to explain in my initial comment. So I thought that if I shared it here, there was a possibility that other producers who don't have much experience mixing may benefit from me explaining it in a direct and well-thought-out manor. I think you may be misunderstanding me because when I say that people should 'mix an element in a way that supports the underlying energy, story, and (most importantly) intention of the song itself' - I am saying that the mix engineer must choose how they will support the 'energy, story, & intention' with the methods they choose to execute during the mix-down process. There's unlimited ways to mix a song, so the mixing engineer has to create a way that supports the 'energy, story, & intention' the original recording artist(s), band, and/or composer(s) wanted. I feel like it's an important point to reiterate and analyze often, as I find it helpful for continuously growing my perspective on music & sound.
@@user-en1oc8xn8q all love over here. I glad to join the conversation!
Got me off guard "or like to listen to some bangers" 🤣. Good one!!
Im sure you also never heard that track before, right? 😂
Your approach to mixing and mastering is easily becoming my favorite
Means a world man! I’m just tryna not to stress about it and make it fun rather than sweating for 0.1dB difference 😅
Dude you’re legit. I literally did not even understand mid side until now.
Your videos are amazing, the quality of information is dense and videos the perfect length. Snappy presentation, to the point and no unnecessary fraff. two thumbs up like the fonz 👍🏼👍🏼
Means a world 🙏🙏 glad you like it!
Great tutorial....... as always you deliver quality knowledge ....... Thanks!!! cheers to Poland from Berlin!!!
My pleasure bro! Hope you don’t mean I delay the quality 😂
Dude how did I not know about that auto hiding setting for VST’s after 15 years 😅
Damn you’re the 🐐
Hahaha I learned a while ago by a total mistake after I let my friend play with Live for a bit 😂
Been using this a lot for mostly all my every tracks. Great video !
Thanks! 🙏
Your videos are indeed top quality…. It would be great to have a long track from start to finish video one day….😊
Thanks a lot man! 🙏 once I get a bit more free time from my full time job I’ll definitely work on that in summer 😉
Thx for the hints man.
You’re most welcome 🫡
wow, was looking to find some plugin like that, and was wondering if some EQ could have some hack to show another track's frequency spectrum via sidechain
Well, the main purpose of Mix Matcher is to match to reference track but I think it works way better for mixing in general. If you want to get real in depth tho - Span is the best option 😉
@@Zdrewe Do you know TDR Prism? Does the same thing (I think), a lot easier to use than Span, and free.
@@rickmassimo6192 ah it’s the new one. Honestly I haven’t tried it yet but… I’ll do 😅
Zdrewe is spitting some knowledge!!!
Glad you like it 🙏🙏
love this my man! keep them coming!
Thanks for watching bro! (And for the great chat about headphones 😉)
@@Zdrewe Absolutely! Next month I'm ordering mine just because of you!! 😎
Bro amazing video! so many humorous funny moments haha love it
My man! Thanks for watching 🙏
@@Zdrewe my pleasure bro... tons of respect and admiration for you
Enjoying that dnb example track ! Is it out somewhere?
I’m releasing the second one in March. For the first one tho.. I’m not convinced to this bass enough 😅
bro you have very cool previews
Thanks! I’m up to release the second track in March
you are amazing man!, just one question i would love to hear answer for it, how can i detect the "bad freqs" that are the problem?
Thanks a lot 🙏 usually “bad frequencies” or resonances can be found in 3-10kHz area but that highly depends on the track (you can go even as low as 1kHz. They’re caused by frequency buildups from layering different sounds or different sounds occupying similar spot. The way to identify them is usually by sweeping this frequency area with narrow bell curve although it can also be misleading. From my experience the best solution is either using tools like RESO by Mastering The Mix or Soothe. The “delta” mode in RESO gives a clear idea on where to find those. Both plugins have free trials and as long as Soothe is the goat, RESO deserve its flowers for being cheaper, more intuitive and more precise (last one in my opinion)
@@Zdrewe thanks i really apreaciate the help i really do, i did what you said rn and followed the video on my project couple hours ago and i swear its 200% clean and better now, every instrument has its own space now on the track thank you so much man you're a legend!! keep up the great work!
@Okta4Music so happy to hear that! 🫡 I mean, some blends in between instruments are necessary sometimes but in general the more clean separation you have between your main groups and instruments, the cleaner your mix will be
@@Zdrewe True! thank you such much i've watched your video about this in other channel about this! you're a goat!
i dont see the sidechain option on spanplus on the vst in my rack and i also can only see channels L&R in the input routing, it doesnt show IN 4,5,6 etc. i clicked show all inputs and still nada?
awesome, thanks!
No problem man! 🫡
I'm still deciding if I should get myself a Cubase or Ableton license, I've used my Ableton free period already but haven't had the time for it actually, now I do have time I'm checking out the free period of Cubase, but it's so damn unlogical and unnecessarily complicated. I preferred Ableton's ease of use, made more sense to me.
That really depends on what you do. I used Cubase a while ago but only for tracking vocals. Pretty sure that it got better when it comes to midi and producing but hey, you’re asking me - Ableton fanboy 😅
@@Zdrewe I don't think I'll be doing much with vocals at the start of my career, I'm a complete newbie, but I've got so much drive in me to start producing, I've literally been through a 30 year hell and I'm only 36, but it's all over! And I feel amazing! Got a passion for music especially DnB and can't wait to start producing, I don't even care if I ever become successful! I just want to make music from now on!!!
I think Ableton is the way to go, especially if you wanna do dnb or any electronic music genre. It is so polyvalent and easy to handle. Cubase is very powerful but too overwhelming for music producer.
You sound very motivated to do some music ! Keep that state of mind and never give up, it will pay in the end. Looking forward to listent to your stuff tho ;)
How do you see that there is a conflict? is it in the area where the two frequencies overlap? and then I decide on one or the other instrument to remove the frequencies at this herz? Please help
In short you need to decide for yourself but whenever you see a frequency conflict then decide which element should lead
Are those Slate VSX headphones?
Yes they are! Although I’m looking to get a pair of proper open backs, I can fully recommend VSXs 😉
watching this on my pixel tablet with it's speaker dock, there is just silence when u eq the sides 😅
Then you got a bonus lesson on mid/side processing 😂😂
0:33 isn't that easier to do a SC comp between this two? 🗿
Good shit for real, my dude!
Great advice and examples, thank you for sharing. Sharing is caring!
Yeah, they “bangers”, dunno what you're even talking about!!! 🫣🤗
Glad you like it my friend 🙏🙏