That clutch pressure plate is toast when it lets go and disappears out throu the bell housing hes not going to be a happy bunny. Lets hope the new one is better
@@margarita8442 No. It was stated that the crank was pretty well balanced and only minimal adjustment had to be made. The vibration occurred when the Clutch was added ...
When you have a pressure plate that far out of balance, why couldn’t you weld a metal plate on the light side of the plate as a counter balance and then zero it by drilling holes on the heavy side as needed, making the total number of holes far less? They weld little plates on driveshafts to balance them, it seems like it would work here as well.
For the balancing machine, have you ever thought about getting some stick on tyre weights to use? Using those first to calculate how much weight has to be removed/added to something would prevent the swiss cheese effect like on this clutch in the video. The lad would have known that there was to much weight to be removed so would have looked to add weight to the light side and make a tidier job.
I think (as several others have already mentioned) that pressure plate is no good. I would rater add weight on the opposite side or get a new one that is hopefully more in balance from the beginning. I personally would be mad if I picked up a crank assembly after balancing and the pressure plate was in this kind of state... Anyway, I do like most of the work you are showing ;)
That clutch cover sounds an alarm too me. The actual pressure plate that the diaphragm is pushing onto must be very out of balance, or off centre. Either way, that is a clutch explosion waiting to happen.
Looking forward to the video of the future when that clutch plate lets go, cant believe its not been changed but then you know these motors better than I
Hi Lee, yep works for me and allows those who do want to hear about the track car etc can leave it alone. You should also be able to pickup new subs from those only interested in the track car etc.
CLUTCH - That looks awful and seriously weekend, i would not be a happy customer if you gave me that. why don't you use the technology they use on prop shafts where they spot weld metal plates to them.
The value of that clutch plate vs the engine and labor does not merit using something so compromised it had to be swiss cheesed to achieve balance... bin it !
Doubt a clutch cover can be that far out of balance. I've seen it when tyre fitters stick weights on top of weights to balance a wheel.......you have to question it as tyres/wheels are made pretty accurate and if you have to add/remove a huge amount of weight then maybe the machine isn't setup right or uncalibrated?? Just a thought
Just came across your channel, great content a bit different from the usual car restorers and love hearing about the stories behind the work you're doing , subscribed 👍😁
Hello Lee, I used to use the air chisel (hammer) to remove and fit guides, works a treat and saves you swinging the old hammer around. Nice work and thanks for sharing.
Love watching the professional engineering here. Not a qualified engineer but surly that clutch cover is just a joke. Is the room between the cover and bellhousing to add weight?
Hello i am in the process of rebuilding my engine snd im going for 20thou oversize pistons.could you please guide me in some rough measurements will be after the rebore process and honing process and running clearance .its a ford 2l pinto engine
Personally I think your second channel is a great idea as I have very little interest in the kit car (except for details of motorcycle engine, etc) or track days. Something you may be interested in, with cast iron valve guides using circlips as depth stop, pressing them too far will lead to guides cracking. It almost looks like they were machined in two parts! I've seen it happen on brand new Honda motor, smoking from factory! That little o-ring to prevent leaks is a very common on motorcycle output shafts, Suzuki have been using exact same method since the 1960's (on the smaller bikes it even looks exactly the same as what you showed)
Do the kit car & M30 stuff as a separate playlist on this channel, not as a stand alone. I really can't be bothered chasing split-offs from channels I'm already subscribed to.
Surely that clutch pressure plate is scrap. After all the time money and effort to get the engine sorted i would be most upset if i picked up my motor to see that monstrosity!!!!
There’s something wrong with that cover assembly: they’re balanced to a reasonable tolerance by the manufacturer so something has clearly changed. Scrap it!
Keep this channel all about machine shop work, with a good bit of "Autopsy" work on dead engines. Other channel -- I am a Locost builder, so I am not sure about the term "kit car". You could almost launch a third full channel where you share experiences about running a business -- hassles that everyone who runs a business runs into.
Are you saying that with a straight face?😅 Notwithstanding your balancer is scrap, sure as hell that cover is now. That is no way that much out of balance.
Balancing adding weight surely the way to go if not an eccentric lathe mount and take a crescent out from within and also from exterior. That balancing looks way too far butchered to justify risking; surely?
That clutch pressure plate is toast when it lets go and disappears out throu the bell housing hes not going to be a happy bunny. Lets hope the new one is better
That clutch cover plate is only fit for the bin.
Surely that clutch is scrap? You can't use that, you've removed way more than 50% of the material!
💯 agree completely weakened the structure…
Exactly what I was thinking
Ridiculous to use that clutch cover…
Yes, the has-bin. Seriously, I would be skeptical about putting something like this back into my car. Did the customer agree to going with this?
Surely the clutch is weakened so much and could fail. After spending so much already a new one is a must
@@margarita8442 No. It was stated that the crank was pretty well balanced and only minimal adjustment had to be made. The vibration occurred when the Clutch was added ...
When you have a pressure plate that far out of balance, why couldn’t you weld a metal plate on the light side of the plate as a counter balance and then zero it by drilling holes on the heavy side as needed, making the total number of holes far less? They weld little plates on driveshafts to balance them, it seems like it would work here as well.
@@margarita8442because he doesn't understand how to do things properly.
@@mattyb7736 Meeeeoww . . Just joking . . surely you add a bit instead of swiss cheesing it. . . what a mess . . if it was mine I'd be livid
@@mattyb7736 Weld a plate on a pressure plate going 8k rpm?
" yea mate im just in for my annual pressure plate balance, the weight flew off"
Stupid
Your Correct, should of added weight to opposite side...Swiss Cheese Pressure plate is a rubbish, in-experienced way of balancing it...
i would dump that clutch cover...it has been severely weakened
How about adding material/weight (by welding on the other side) instead of taking off that much?
For the balancing machine, have you ever thought about getting some stick on tyre weights to use? Using those first to calculate how much weight has to be removed/added to something would prevent the swiss cheese effect like on this clutch in the video. The lad would have known that there was to much weight to be removed so would have looked to add weight to the light side and make a tidier job.
The new style "Cheese Grater" clutch cover 🤭
Very happy with two channels - lots of other presenters have a second, or sometimes a third, side channel.
That clutch lightening. Oh dear!
I woulda sent that clutch cover back, or bought a better one. That drilling looks well dodgy.
Scrap the clutch cover, it must be weakened by all the drilling
Your 2 channels work perfectly Lee, One for business and one for more leisure/Hobby related stuff 👌
will that cover plate hold up at high rpm with so little holding it together
Hi Lee, 6:00 stick those exhaust guides in the freezer for a couple of hours to shrink them down a bit, makes the installation a lot easier.
Get that clutch replaced, it’s like a Swiss cheese
Lee, please keep up the new format, works brilliant.
I think (as several others have already mentioned) that pressure plate is no good. I would rater add weight on the opposite side or get a new one that is hopefully more in balance from the beginning. I personally would be mad if I picked up a crank assembly after balancing and the pressure plate was in this kind of state... Anyway, I do like most of the work you are showing ;)
That clutch cover sounds an alarm too me. The actual pressure plate that the diaphragm is pushing onto must be very out of balance, or off centre. Either way, that is a clutch explosion waiting to happen.
The new channel is great, it gives us playtime while the original channel concentrates on business. Great viewing on both..
LOL Drive them in with a sledge hammer. Delighted with both channels the more the better, keep up the great work, best wishes.
For me, I like the Engineering side and I like the car side so I think the two channels work really good👍
Throw that clutch cover straight in the bin. I wouldn't be putting that anywhere near one of my motors
Lee, I think the split between the two channels couldn’t be any better. Keep up the great work on all the videos 👍🏻👍🏻
2 channels seems a great idea.
One for work, and one for leisure. 👍
Looking forward to the video of the future when that clutch plate lets go, cant believe its not been changed but then you know these motors better than I
Yes, it works Lee, all's good!
Loving the two channels lee, thanks
Love the 2-channels. I think that the clutch cover plate is trash. If I was the customer and saw that, I would be questioning it.
The two channels are working great Lee. Keep up the great work!!
This double channel works well, Keep it up.
Just a point you mention often about not needing the wire groove in the block......that technique is still used in high boost drag engines.
Totally happy with the 2 channel approach, love all your content, so happy days
Lee, please keep up the new format, works brilliant.
I liked the combined content. But understand and appreciate the split. Both which I love.
The two channels work for me
Yes Lee love both for the tech and your hobby
Loving g both channels, keep up the great work 👍👍👍👍👍👍
The two channels are working great together. I love both your enthusiasm and knowledge, absolutely addictive keep it up.
What's the name of the other channel?
Another super interesting video. I thankyou. both channels are great! just carry on.
Enjoy all your content, this was a very informative
Hi Lee, yep works for me and allows those who do want to hear about the track car etc can leave it alone. You should also be able to pickup new subs from those only interested in the track car etc.
Could you tell us the reasoning of reusing that clutch cover.
Did i remember wrong ages ago that you were taking on next doors unit as well ?
CLUTCH - That looks awful and seriously weekend, i would not be a happy customer if you gave me that. why don't you use the technology they use on prop shafts where they spot weld metal plates to them.
Trow that clutchkit away. If its that out of balance its no good.
Are you going to removen the rivets on clutch cover and show what's wrong with plate?
Cheers Lee, that Ford Clutch Cover looks like a Suction strainer!, see you on the next one.
yes the new format works fine for me.
New Channel works for me
Good work. the new one is fine too. I admired Cosworths since people told me about the influence of that design.
The value of that clutch plate vs the engine and labor does not merit using something so compromised it had to be swiss cheesed to achieve balance... bin it !
Hi Lee just wondering if you are still going forward to the new unit as I haven’t heard you talk about it for a long time or has it fell through?👍
Works for me, cheers. 😊
Doubt a clutch cover can be that far out of balance. I've seen it when tyre fitters stick weights on top of weights to balance a wheel.......you have to question it as tyres/wheels are made pretty accurate and if you have to add/remove a huge amount of weight then maybe the machine isn't setup right or uncalibrated?? Just a thought
Just came across your channel, great content a bit different from the usual car restorers and love hearing about the stories behind the work you're doing , subscribed 👍😁
Hello Lee, I used to use the air chisel (hammer) to remove and fit guides, works a treat and saves you swinging the old hammer around.
Nice work and thanks for sharing.
That's how it was done at my work too.
Loved seeing the old king pin being put to good use. At a guess TK Bedford. 👍
Perfect . Keep the fun stuff you like to YOUR own channel for fun and story`s . Good job
Dual format is fine. I personally like the new channel better as the whole reason I started working at a machine shop was to aid in my racing habit.
Too many holes in that clutch. I wonder if the the friction plate is not actually centred??
Through that clutch in the river Thames.
Love watching the professional engineering here. Not a qualified engineer but surly that clutch cover is just a joke. Is the room between the cover and bellhousing to add weight?
Is there a reason why your not using a torque plate while honing?
Works for me, less whining 😂
Hello i am in the process of rebuilding my engine snd im going for 20thou oversize pistons.could you please guide me in some rough measurements will be after the rebore process and honing process and running clearance .its a ford 2l pinto engine
What about the strength of the clutch with that many holes?
Drill the flywheel! To balance it. THEN add the clutch cover and balance that
Personally I think your second channel is a great idea as I have very little interest in the kit car (except for details of motorcycle engine, etc) or track days.
Something you may be interested in, with cast iron valve guides using circlips as depth stop, pressing them too far will lead to guides cracking. It almost looks like they were machined in two parts!
I've seen it happen on brand new Honda motor, smoking from factory!
That little o-ring to prevent leaks is a very common on motorcycle output shafts, Suzuki have been using exact same method since the 1960's (on the smaller bikes it even looks exactly the same as what you showed)
Keep it mixed please
Better format keeping it separate 👍👍
Two channels is good, my interest is, primarily, in the engineering side of things.
Do the kit car & M30 stuff as a separate playlist on this channel, not as a stand alone.
I really can't be bothered chasing split-offs from channels I'm already subscribed to.
great info
working yes
@barum engines what are your thoughts on using an engine assembly lube or engine oil on rebuilding engines?
second channel is working for me
Surely that clutch pressure plate is scrap. After all the time money and effort to get the engine sorted i would be most upset if i picked up my motor to see that monstrosity!!!!
It works👍
Add weight on the opposite side? instead of drilling all those holes
Why not freeze the guides so they simply drop in?
There’s something wrong with that cover assembly: they’re balanced to a reasonable tolerance by the manufacturer so something has clearly changed. Scrap it!
Just for your statistics i like this channel 100%, yet your other with BMW crap, never seen and never will
Why not add weight to the opposite side of the cover- that things trash
Throw that clutch in the tip, I'm very surprised that you are willing to put that on.when it Flys to peaceses it going to be all on you DONT DO IT
👍 2 channels
Keep this channel all about machine shop work, with a good bit of "Autopsy" work on dead engines. Other channel -- I am a Locost builder, so I am not sure about the term "kit car". You could almost launch a third full channel where you share experiences about running a business -- hassles that everyone who runs a business runs into.
Are you saying that with a straight face?😅 Notwithstanding your balancer is scrap, sure as hell that cover is now.
That is no way that much out of balance.
Balancing adding weight surely the way to go if not an eccentric lathe mount and take a crescent out from within and also from exterior. That balancing looks way too far butchered to justify risking; surely?
2 channels 👍👍
Clutch plate 👎👎 in the bin
why would you even balance clutch. if it needs new one you would have to strip engine again. that clutch is fit for bin with all them holes
Reusing circlips
Send that pressure plate back that is to many holes drilled in it
I’ll call them in the morning Scott and see if they will take it back
i bet those wire ring groves were a bitch to set up and cut
hello sir , could we have a talk ？
Not meaning to be cheeky or disrespectful but you do tend to say obviously a lot when it's not that obvious to most of us.
never taking anything to these guys...
Sorry to hear this Phil, what do you have to not bring?
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