Understanding Wokeism as a religion makes sense. It is logically coherent. For example, the performance of anti-racist rituals and the public recitation of woke platitudes to relieve perceived guilt being preferred over really doing something constructive to help people is a modern day form of Phariseeism.
Yup, I’m a German and am living in Frankfurt am Main. I’m following John since years also on Talking Heads. How could I have missed this opportunity to see him live…. 😥
When exactly was this? I was in Berlin the 8th of July. Probably just too late, but I would have loved to come earlier to see him. I'm from a different European country so Berlin is not close.
Light-skinned Black women in America are the most attacked women by Dark-skinned Black women. Nikole Hannah-Jones is only protected because she is a "tool" of Darker-skinned Black women and their agenda and helps buttress them (race, color, gender). If she were not, she would be treated in a marginalize way just like any other Light-skinned Black woman.
Religions don't abandon reason. Rather they require that you start with the tenets as the conclusion and any evidence that doesn't support the conclusion must be rejected as either wrong or misunderstood.
An interesting discussion. I try and research both sides and in between on an issue and for those doing the same Shari Dunn (her recent Medium article The War on “Woke” is a War on Empathy, and it’s Working) and Chris from the Radical Therapist have a different perspective worth considering as one evaluates the broad perspective of opinions to arrive at their own understanding. An indepth discussion between the two is here: ruclips.net/video/apTVJ0UGhz4/видео.html
So glad I'm no longer in linguistics! I notice though, as a linguist, what wokeness is doing to our language (I'm North-Western European). It's such an interesting phenomenon, but also scary at the same time.
@@anniehope8651 Yes, I am from Finland. I would not say that to the same extent. There are fires here and there, but really hasn't swept the country, although I have to say that the cultural section of our largest newspaper is pretty woke. I've actually send a few reporters there an email urging them to look at Loury's & McWhorther's work to no real effect. But I will keep trying :) Frankly, I find their approach social to justice issues quite naive
@Anya Wale If a "Marxist" is someone who uses Marx as a lens through which to view the world, then a racist is someone who uses the lens of race. :P Seriously, nobody promotes the saliency of race more than the Woke except perhaps white supremacists. And nobody judges others as much by their race as the woke. Do you have permission/standing to speak to this cause of general social concern? It might depend on your race.
@Anya Wale In pretty much every way. The pathological fixation on things like race, gender and status, none of which should be more important than hair colour, a person's height and the like, are very frightening and are only taken so seriously by racists, sexists and other extremists. Often their irrational and self-contradictory „solutions“ to problems harm the very people they claim they want to help. In fact this is not even their prime goal, instead it’s a game of virtue signaling (often among an elite society of whites). So basically rich whites trying to morally outperform other rich whites with the pretended aim of a purer pseudo-morality.
I wish he'd have pushed back on yhe question that framed the Weinstein brothers as far-right extremist whackos. I'm only familiar with Bret Weinstein. His DarkHorse podcast is quite excellent and the saga of what happened at Evergreen College to him is sad and scary. I'm not familiar with his brother but that definitely seemed like a "wokie" in the crowd attempting to delegitimize growing voices of pushback and reason by mischaracterizing/slandering them through idea laundering.
Yeah. Most people check themselves when someone unexpectedly responds to their actions. I've seen him quote another weak example where he went to a physiotherapist. The receptionist ignored him until he approached the counter, while she went to other people unprompted. In his position I would assume they are regular visitors she recognised, while it being John's first visit she waited to be asked something.
Liberal whites are browbeaten into thinking that when they roll out of bed each morning it's an act of racism so I can't say I'm surprised some of them are afraid to even engage with black people.
@Anya Wale Who are "we" and what assumptions are you making about me? I'm very familiar with encountering this behaviour in my own life from people around the world. What makes John's example weak is he said this rarely happens to him, yet when it did he assumed the worst about the other person's intentions, when there are many possibilities.
He misstated the entire idea of miss fund the police. It's not intended to reduce police presence, it's to retrain in an effort to remove corruption and prosecution of those corrupt and not use money to cover up their corrupt activities with money from the cities they serve!
It depends on who you speak to. That is perhaps the well though out version of the idea, but interview random people at a protest and observe the wide variation in responses. What to use existing, more vigorous evidence? Look at the nature of bills proposed in various jurisdictions and observe.
@@danielnewman8242 yep. And research The Ferguson Effect. Wokeness completely ignores reality and intentionally misframes the topic. The VERY WORK they 'activist' for was already well underway. Most of the incidents that BLM and similar race-hustling entitles paraded around for the hysteria were extremely sensationalized versions of what really happened. Police brutality and killings while in confrontation with police (for all races) had dropped steadily for decades and most of them that remain have very little or nothing at all to do with race- other than the chance luck of the police/(suspected) criminal racial dynamics... Or ARTIFICIALLY inserted accusations of racism from woke outsiders.
Nope. In my small community "defund the police" literally meant "reduce the number of police." Now 3 years later we have record levels per capita of gun crimes and skyrocketing property crime.
Defund always confused me. Why not address laws instead of reduce police? Don’t like police enforcing jaywalking or marijuana laws? Repeal them. Don’t like police shootings? Hold police accountable for mistakes either through insurance or through legal means. But it simply doesn’t make sense to restrict police, especially in high crime or violent places, while simultaneously claiming to help the public.
I just don't buy his point about the deferential treatment re: being black on the airplane story. Because this isn't specifically anything to do with racism it's to do with prejudice and stereotypes. In the same way as he felt that the others judged him along the lines of angry black man I guarantee you anything that black men get better treatment in Germany than Eastern European men because that's their traditional nemesis and the people they're going to have the most prejudice against Slavs and so on. I'm sure if you were in the German flight and you were a black man they would be super doting around you whereas the Eastern European person would be super annoying to them. So you can't draw these broad sweeping stripes based on American experience..
Thank you so much John! Please come to France, i'll translate your lecture. Take care.
The shout out to Glenn Loury did not go unnoticed! You are both legends.
Understanding Wokeism as a religion makes sense. It is logically coherent.
For example, the performance of anti-racist rituals and the public recitation of woke platitudes to relieve perceived guilt being preferred over really doing something constructive to help people is a modern day form of Phariseeism.
u sound fanatic
I wish we could all be like this.
Hey! I'm a Quebecois ex-farmer, and I love not only Shakespeare, but also Webster, Ford, Bacon, and Thomas Browne! :D
Can’t believe I missed this in Berlin
Same!
Yup, I’m a German and am living in Frankfurt am Main. I’m following John since years also on Talking Heads. How could I have missed this opportunity to see him live…. 😥
@Anya Wale haha amazing!
When exactly was this? I was in Berlin the 8th of July. Probably just too late, but I would have loved to come earlier to see him. I'm from a different European country so Berlin is not close.
This is so good and needed. Thank you!
Light-skinned Black women in America are the most attacked women by Dark-skinned Black women. Nikole Hannah-Jones is only protected because she is a "tool" of Darker-skinned Black women and their agenda and helps buttress them (race, color, gender). If she were not, she would be treated in a marginalize way just like any other Light-skinned Black woman.
I love the rationality of this gentleman. His is a calm mind a sea of vicious cruelty.
Religions don't abandon reason. Rather they require that you start with the tenets as the conclusion and any evidence that doesn't support the conclusion must be rejected as either wrong or misunderstood.
What is the German title of the book?
Die Erwählten: Wie der neue Antirassismus die Gesellschaft spaltet
@anniehope8651: Die Erwählten (= The Elected)
Excellent!
37:19 -- I wonder who he's talking about
He is talking about Michel DeGraff from MIT.
Why does Dr McWhorter want Christopher Rufo to shut up?
An interesting discussion. I try and research both sides and in between on an issue and for those doing the same Shari Dunn (her recent Medium article The War on “Woke” is a War on Empathy, and it’s Working) and Chris from the Radical Therapist have a different perspective worth considering as one evaluates the broad perspective of opinions to arrive at their own understanding. An indepth discussion between the two is here: ruclips.net/video/apTVJ0UGhz4/видео.html
So glad I'm no longer in linguistics! I notice though, as a linguist, what wokeness is doing to our language (I'm North-Western European). It's such an interesting phenomenon, but also scary at the same time.
I find it just scary :)
@@SvenErik_Lindstrom3 Looking at your name I presume you are from Scandinavia. Is it happening there too?
@@anniehope8651 Yes, I am from Finland. I would not say that to the same extent. There are fires here and there, but really hasn't swept the country, although I have to say that the cultural section of our largest newspaper is pretty woke. I've actually send a few reporters there an email urging them to look at Loury's & McWhorther's work to no real effect. But I will keep trying :) Frankly, I find their approach social to justice issues quite naive
LOL
john is the best
i saw a video with two guys one has a shirt that says "woke" one says "racist" and both believe the same things
@Anya Wale If a "Marxist" is someone who uses Marx as a lens through which to view the world, then a racist is someone who uses the lens of race. :P
Seriously, nobody promotes the saliency of race more than the Woke except perhaps white supremacists. And nobody judges others as much by their race as the woke. Do you have permission/standing to speak to this cause of general social concern? It might depend on your race.
@Anya Wale ruclips.net/video/Ev373c7wSRg/видео.html
Here's the video. Clear and accurate.
@Anya Wale In pretty much every way. The pathological fixation on things like race, gender and status, none of which should be more important than hair colour, a person's height and the like, are very frightening and are only taken so seriously by racists, sexists and other extremists. Often their irrational and self-contradictory „solutions“ to problems harm the very people they claim they want to help.
In fact this is not even their prime goal, instead it’s a game of virtue signaling (often among an elite society of whites).
So basically rich whites trying to morally outperform other rich whites with the pretended aim of a purer pseudo-morality.
I wish he'd have pushed back on yhe question that framed the Weinstein brothers as far-right extremist whackos.
I'm only familiar with Bret Weinstein.
His DarkHorse podcast is quite excellent and the saga of what happened at Evergreen College to him is sad and scary.
I'm not familiar with his brother but that definitely seemed like a "wokie" in the crowd attempting to delegitimize growing voices of pushback and reason by mischaracterizing/slandering them through idea laundering.
That is quite a big assumption to think the airplane guy was scared of the "angry black guy" Jesus,John
Yeah. Most people check themselves when someone unexpectedly responds to their actions. I've seen him quote another weak example where he went to a physiotherapist. The receptionist ignored him until he approached the counter, while she went to other people unprompted. In his position I would assume they are regular visitors she recognised, while it being John's first visit she waited to be asked something.
@SteveUnderwood ok woke
Liberal whites are browbeaten into thinking that when they roll out of bed each morning it's an act of racism so I can't say I'm surprised some of them are afraid to even engage with black people.
@Anya Wale Who are "we" and what assumptions are you making about me? I'm very familiar with encountering this behaviour in my own life from people around the world. What makes John's example weak is he said this rarely happens to him, yet when it did he assumed the worst about the other person's intentions, when there are many possibilities.
@@steveunderwood3683 I really don't think the example really has an effect on his general argument.
Mr John why reinforcing this "white privilege" concept? It is s so contrproductive to society.
He misstated the entire idea of miss fund the police. It's not intended to reduce police presence, it's to retrain in an effort to remove corruption and prosecution of those corrupt and not use money to cover up their corrupt activities with money from the cities they serve!
It depends on who you speak to. That is perhaps the well though out version of the idea, but interview random people at a protest and observe the wide variation in responses. What to use existing, more vigorous evidence? Look at the nature of bills proposed in various jurisdictions and observe.
@@danielnewman8242 yep.
And research The Ferguson Effect.
Wokeness completely ignores reality and intentionally misframes the topic.
The VERY WORK they 'activist' for was already well underway.
Most of the incidents that BLM and similar race-hustling entitles paraded around for the hysteria were extremely sensationalized versions of what really happened.
Police brutality and killings while in confrontation with police (for all races) had dropped steadily for decades and most of them that remain have very little or nothing at all to do with race- other than the chance luck of the police/(suspected) criminal racial dynamics...
Or ARTIFICIALLY inserted accusations of racism from woke outsiders.
Nope. In my small community "defund the police" literally meant "reduce the number of police." Now 3 years later we have record levels per capita of gun crimes and skyrocketing property crime.
Defund always confused me. Why not address laws instead of reduce police? Don’t like police enforcing jaywalking or marijuana laws? Repeal them. Don’t like police shootings? Hold police accountable for mistakes either through insurance or through legal means.
But it simply doesn’t make sense to restrict police, especially in high crime or violent places, while simultaneously claiming to help the public.
I just don't buy his point about the deferential treatment re: being black on the airplane story. Because this isn't specifically anything to do with racism it's to do with prejudice and stereotypes. In the same way as he felt that the others judged him along the lines of angry black man I guarantee you anything that black men get better treatment in Germany than Eastern European men because that's their traditional nemesis and the people they're going to have the most prejudice against Slavs and so on. I'm sure if you were in the German flight and you were a black man they would be super doting around you whereas the Eastern European person would be super annoying to them. So you can't draw these broad sweeping stripes based on American experience..
religious approach from him
Taking your other comments on this video into account its safe to say your opinion can be dismissed as worthless.