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  • Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024

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  • @AndreTheGiant2006
    @AndreTheGiant2006 2 года назад +4

    Hacksaw Jim Duggan LMFAO!!!!! Josh you are HILARIOUS!!!!

  • @candaceseayfolks7954
    @candaceseayfolks7954 Год назад +4

    Best slide video. Thanks for not just talking about walking, but also sitting/sleeping on a retracted slide.

  • @smellslikeafart6990
    @smellslikeafart6990 2 года назад +1

    When the video goes distorted, ARRRGGGGGHHHH !!!!!!! By far the best part !

  • @martaleary5598
    @martaleary5598 Год назад +2

    Thank you sooooo much Josh !!! You rocked that one ! 👍🙏🤩

  • @lilkaliyg
    @lilkaliyg 2 года назад +2

    I WISH I COULD TIP YOU FOR THIS INFO. GREAT TOURS AND GREAT PERSONALITY! GO NAVY!!!

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  2 года назад

      I think you technically can with one of those buttons under the video but I just appreciate you visiting regardless!!

  • @stevenwilson5428
    @stevenwilson5428 Год назад +2

    Just bought my first camper with a slide all ways enjoy you videos and tips u give out ,

  • @pattigrigsby9762
    @pattigrigsby9762 2 года назад +27

    Nice explanation on why it isn’t safe or wise to step in closed slides. It’s nice to see a sales person being honest

  • @kathyblount1987
    @kathyblount1987 2 года назад +2

    Everytime I watch your videos, I learn something new. Keep it up, even with the tongue-in-cheek humor. I love it!!

  • @janicecrockett1400
    @janicecrockett1400 2 года назад +2

    Thank you. This question comes up from time to time in Facebook forums.

  • @dustinbewley5597
    @dustinbewley5597 2 года назад +8

    I want to see a video on those 37 reasons! I would love to know the difference between towable and motor homes

  • @ranchgal3006
    @ranchgal3006 Год назад

    Forty years of wondering and now I know from a pro! Thank you!

  • @timsimpkins3284
    @timsimpkins3284 Год назад +1

    Josh, thanks for bringing this entire subject up!

  • @timsimpkins3284
    @timsimpkins3284 Год назад +1

    I’ve watched sales people’s faces when I ask about being able to occupy the slides retracted?? Of course you can they say! Are you sure , I ask.well ughh sure! You need to keep hammering this topic Josh! We’re looking to buy a trailer now and really needing this input! Thanks buddy😉🙏🏻

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  Год назад

      I am always curious how they can make a promise the MFG doesn’t? 🤔

  • @michaeldierks3708
    @michaeldierks3708 2 года назад +16

    Thanks for the great content here Nerd! Any chance you could do a similar video about slide maintenance?

  • @chrisrowland2223
    @chrisrowland2223 2 года назад +3

    Thank you for this breakdown of the different types of slides in a no thrills laymen version

  • @jackel440
    @jackel440 2 года назад +1

    Loved "hack saw" Jim Duggan

  • @chrisfoxwell4128
    @chrisfoxwell4128 2 года назад +1

    I've seen so many videos with misaligned and fallen floors and lack of support makes perfect sense. And, I've seen plenty of videos where people pile all sorts of crap in the slide to go down the road. This video will save some lucky people that see it.

  • @chrisruef3201
    @chrisruef3201 2 года назад +1

    R.V school... Thank you Josh.

  • @wadedavis8868
    @wadedavis8868 2 года назад +2

    Awesome advice. Learn something new every time I watch one of your videos. Thank you for doing them.

  • @hatorihanzo803
    @hatorihanzo803 Год назад +1

    Great information Josh 👍

  • @auntied.3301
    @auntied.3301 2 года назад +1

    Thanks, Josh!

  • @mildredlackey1938
    @mildredlackey1938 2 года назад +1

    A very important video about the slid on the R Vs , thanks much.

  • @kevinr5187
    @kevinr5187 Год назад +1

    Dude your awesome, you got this down. Great info that is really appreciated.

  • @Masterchief68
    @Masterchief68 2 года назад +12

    Great information! My owners manual states not to be walking on the slide unless it’s out and it also says not to put the slides out until you’ve leveled the camper.

  • @robbliven01
    @robbliven01 11 месяцев назад

    Great information Josh! Thank you!!!

  • @tedcharp
    @tedcharp 2 года назад +3

    Thanks for info Josh👍👍

  • @IntothewestOkotoks
    @IntothewestOkotoks 2 года назад +48

    Great advice! On a similar topic, it would be great to do a video on how exactly to get one of these slides in if it fails…and maybe what to look for every time it goes out or in. We have the cable slide system, and I’m always concerned it’s going to fail at some point while we’re camping (and packing up to go home)!

    • @01AceAlpha
      @01AceAlpha 2 года назад +5

      Depending on the make of slide, you have different options. My particular make and model has a manual retract socket on the opposite side of the trailer that allows you to crank in the slide with the same hand crank or socket as the corner stabilizers. Works if you have no power or breakage. If it’s jammed, you may need to muscle it to get it in and drive your rig to a repair shop.

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  2 года назад +15

      Oh no for sure. I 100% want to make videos like that. I just need to get some assistance from a service department.. but this thing is completely full up with work right now

    • @SamuelJMartinIII
      @SamuelJMartinIII 2 года назад +6

      @@JoshtheRVNerd // ask the Service Departments (across ALL the nearby BISH’S) to give you a heads up when this issue rolls into their service bay so you can show the process with their help… 📸📲
      * i.e. for ALL the service issues you wish to showcase… preventatively speaking of course 😬🫣🤫

    • @erhodes352
      @erhodes352 2 года назад

      Andrew - Cable slide systems will have a spot on the motor mounted above the slide where you can insert an adapter (that should have come with the RV) and use a drill to run the slide in or out. It is stupid slow going and very difficult to get up there and do it while it’s moving without being in the way. If you have a cable fray or break, you can have a couple of guys push from the outside while the wife pushes the slide in button. I’ve had to do both with a cable slide and it’s a pain.

    • @luciastan64
      @luciastan64 2 года назад

      @@erhodes352 so that being said, is the cable slide the one that you’d use last? The others have better workability?

  • @cindyonyoutube
    @cindyonyoutube 2 года назад +5

    Another well-done (not overcooked) and informative video! Thanks Josh!

  • @timandkayleighpugh5961
    @timandkayleighpugh5961 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for the video seeing a lot of us are going on trips on memorial day weekend next weekend. On another note it must be a fun to work around a dancing bot

  • @nomatterwhereyougothereyou3344
    @nomatterwhereyougothereyou3344 2 года назад +2

    Thanks so much for this, we have been wanting a REAL explanation for this. We NOW get it, thanks again!

  • @micheleobrien64
    @micheleobrien64 Год назад

    Awesome! I was lost on the slide thing!❤❤❤😅😅

  • @tommymitchell2935
    @tommymitchell2935 Год назад +1

    Great information 👍

  • @mikeweis5925
    @mikeweis5925 2 года назад +3

    We found this out the hard way this past winter. Our slide floor detached from the wall and fell down an inch. I had to use jacks to hold the floor up level to wall until we got home from our winter Texas snow birding to fix it. I googled and found minimal information on this so I’m so glad you are educating people.

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  2 года назад

      Yeah that's one of the big things that can happen. I've seen trades come in where when you put out the slide the floor "lift" basically so it can go out. I knew immediately what happened

  • @ISRAEL922IDF
    @ISRAEL922IDF 2 года назад +2

    “…get a kid or something like that” 😝😝😝😝 You’re so funny Josh lol

  • @lhbarcenas
    @lhbarcenas 2 года назад +5

    Excellent advise, we learned that the hard way, several years back with our first RV had floor separation from stepping on the slide while traveling.

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  2 года назад

      Aw man.. sorry to hear that but Ty for sharing so people see this IS real advice

  • @wertcorya.3453
    @wertcorya.3453 2 года назад +1

    HELLL YEAH MR. Josh!!! Common sense is key. Thank you fur all the info.

  • @bengorrell2658
    @bengorrell2658 2 года назад +1

    Thank you Mr Josh, something I never thought of

  • @davida8164
    @davida8164 2 года назад +2

    Great information

  • @dianemiller8635
    @dianemiller8635 Год назад

    Great pod cast

  • @marydelfico8406
    @marydelfico8406 2 года назад +1

    Great info Josh!

  • @carlstanoyevic3070
    @carlstanoyevic3070 2 года назад +1

    Great video thanks for this information. Something most of us have never thought about.

  • @B.A.S.66
    @B.A.S.66 2 года назад +3

    Great points. My thought is to avoid damage just don't use the slide while it's in when it comes to travel trailers.

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  2 года назад +1

      That truly is the best suggestion. But there are always folks that want to know

  • @johncaruana6406
    @johncaruana6406 2 года назад +1

    Excellent video Josh. Thank you.

  • @chuckspencer5296
    @chuckspencer5296 2 года назад +1

    Ahh.... One of the reasons why I like the units with the kitchen in the slide and not the seating... But, those are not the norm.... Thanks for the great info Josh!!

  • @wmschooley1234
    @wmschooley1234 2 года назад +1

    Josh: Thank you. And you KNOW why!😊😊 Respectfully, W.S.

  • @trzam400
    @trzam400 2 года назад +1

    Thank you Josh just came across this one answered some questions I was thinking

  • @windfall35
    @windfall35 Год назад +1

    Excellent topic and discussion Josh...I noticed that our schwintech 'step up' dinette slide was an open unsupported box hovering above the floor about 8 inches and about 3-4 feet inside any support. I was initially concerned that as we pounded across potholes and gravel uneven roads that this unsupported box would bounce up and down causing damage to the coach (and didn't think too much about us sitting in that box while it was retracted...) I fashioned two adjustable support legs for the inside box lip with wide bases for the floor and the underside of the box...I am really happy with the result...

  • @vikkibair1546
    @vikkibair1546 2 года назад +1

    Totally makes sense 👌

  • @kaylemoczygemba1488
    @kaylemoczygemba1488 Год назад +1

    Love your content!! Keep em coming! PS: thanks for the pokemon go friend add!

  • @anthonyWiHDM8
    @anthonyWiHDM8 2 года назад +1

    lots of great information! Thanks for sharing.

  • @AJJALALI
    @AJJALALI 2 года назад +1

    Thx for sharing this after I put so much stuff on my bed and knocked off my slide out of track lol I love your videos this is very important info I didn't know but now I'll be more careful

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  2 года назад

      TY for being willing to share this with other viewers!

  • @bobbistanovich8179
    @bobbistanovich8179 2 года назад +1

    Great info! Thanks Josh!

  • @zygmuntziokowski7877
    @zygmuntziokowski7877 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for the update.

  • @brianm1916
    @brianm1916 2 года назад +1

    Good info. Thanks uncle Josh!

  • @eandjbyrne5784
    @eandjbyrne5784 2 года назад +1

    Josh! Thank you so much!!

  • @electricamish
    @electricamish 2 года назад +2

    I always wondered watching your videos, when you talk about stopping for breaks on the road, having lunch and such if you really should be sitting in the side.....I never thought ours were really that strong when in.

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  2 года назад

      Yeah I think I mentioned it's something I haven't clarified well and possibly have shared _BAD_ info on in some of my videos. I'm always learning and trying to do my best to share good, reliable information. I don't always get it right but I can admit when I'm wrong

  • @suzannef1707
    @suzannef1707 2 года назад +2

    Thank you so much for this video. I had asked about occupying a slide while its retracted. I appreciate you and your advice

  • @bethanyh5853
    @bethanyh5853 2 года назад +1

    Once again, great info. Thanks!!!

  • @nans969
    @nans969 2 года назад +2

    Thank you. Never thought about using the slide when not out. Or over loading the slide. I did find out( after owning our trailer for a year) to fully slide out and or in, not halfway to access another part of the trailer.

  • @marilynscripture6085
    @marilynscripture6085 2 года назад

    Thank you for the video! Very informative!

  • @MrNickb-s500
    @MrNickb-s500 2 года назад +1

    Josh Thanks for the excellent and very informative and useful info! 😊😊👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @randyg8802
    @randyg8802 2 года назад

    Great job! I have never seen this addressed.

  • @toddswinscoe1007
    @toddswinscoe1007 2 года назад +1

    Great video AGAIN! Truly love all of your videos.

  • @pmraul2921
    @pmraul2921 2 года назад

    Thank you for what you do. I just keep learning more and more from your videos.

  • @sitchad
    @sitchad 2 года назад +1

    Really good information. Never knew that about trailers and 5th wheel.

  • @TheBeardedKeith
    @TheBeardedKeith 2 года назад +1

    Great info! We just bought our first slide out camper. The first camper we bought was from you when your place was called something else.

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  2 года назад +2

      Would’ve been Haylett RV
      All but one of those employees are still with us!!

  • @loneapple440
    @loneapple440 2 года назад +2

    Great advice since I was looking at slide outs and this is invaluable for my next selection of TT.

  • @timothywilson6946
    @timothywilson6946 2 года назад +1

    Just heard about this topic while camping last weekend. Why it is important to not stand on the slides while they are retracted is that you can break the floor section away from the side wall of the slide.

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  2 года назад

      Right. That's usually the result
      It's a low occurrence, but I've seen it

  • @jondonahue7163
    @jondonahue7163 2 года назад

    With our 1991 Lazy Daze, thankfully, no slides! My RV mechanic told me once that he would have a very, very good retirement because of constantly failing and breaking slideouts. Thanks for this interesting video. Good advice!

  • @Gonzo614
    @Gonzo614 2 года назад +1

    Good info to have with a great explanation.

  • @annej5699
    @annej5699 2 года назад +2

    Applause for a well-done video! And of course, as you are probably already planning, please keep bringing these points up when talking about specific trailers, too. Not only will they be timely reminders, but when you run into other types of slides you can speak specifically to those.
    Some points:
    1) it's not just stature to take into account regarding slides, but the rambunctiousness of whoever might be entering or using them. An energetic 8-year-old can put just as much or more stress on a slide than a sedate 200-lb adult.
    2) many trailer slides, especially Super slides, have storage built in them. Given the facts you pointed out about the rolling earthquake it is important to consider the placement and weight of stuff stowed in such storage in the slides.
    3) it could also be helpful to know whether slides can be partially deployed and used in that fashion. Also can you partially deploy a slide and then retract it, or do you have to fully deploy it before you can retract it again? Sometimes when getting to a campsite and getting set up we might find that there is something blocking us from fully deploying a slide. Knowing whether we can use the slide partially deployed, and knowing whether or not we have to move the trailer in order to fully extend the slide before retracting it can be rather important.
    Thank you for this!

  • @jaredburk8861
    @jaredburk8861 3 месяца назад +1

    GREAT video. Thank you. And to the point you made about passengers in a 5th wheel. I live in CA where it's legal as long as there's an exit for the passengers. However, is it smart to put passengers in a capsule that will break apart like a child 1st grade tower project in an accident? Yeah..NO. Legsl, but I would never allow it personally.

  • @stephanieanderson7208
    @stephanieanderson7208 2 года назад +1

    OMG.... Thank you so much for this video.
    I cant tell you how much stuff we've stored in the side nook of our 22ft Salem cruise lite. My Rockwood just arrived. I will see it tomorrow. Youre right. It was 4 months. I will not store anything in the Rockwood slide. However, it is an east west bedroom slide in the 2911bs 🤔

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  2 года назад

      If there’s already storage space there, then you should be fine
      Storage space is usually limited in size and structured accordingly.
      It’s where they DONT intend weight that becomes an issue

    • @stephanieanderson7208
      @stephanieanderson7208 2 года назад

      @@JoshtheRVNerd yes, 2911bs.
      Ps: Nerd Herd. Lol. Just got to the end of your video

  • @randomspirit
    @randomspirit 2 года назад +1

    Great info! Thanks!

  • @gregpoole4364
    @gregpoole4364 2 года назад +1

    Nicely done!

  • @cwerlhof2921
    @cwerlhof2921 2 года назад +1

    Great advice Josh! Our Coachmen Apex 215RBX is a step up slidebox design that contains the dinette, and uses the Schwintek hardware. We plan to never sit in the dinette when retracted, but alas we never had the chance. She’s brand new, just drove to our hometown two hours from the dealer, disconnected and leveled the trailer, and on slide extension… she extended two inches, the forward end froze, the backend wanted to keep going… wait, what! Fortunately the slide fully retracted and seated all around, but a second attempt had the same result. Dealer says, oh sorry, but we can’t get you into service until August. So, our summer of camping shot down the drain on a brand new trailer… frustrated to say the least. The Schwintek design is problematic, and has been for several years.

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  2 года назад +3

      ..you _just_ took it home and your dealer won't even look at it until _August?_
      Call Coachmen. That's nonsense.

    • @dharobed3329
      @dharobed3329 2 года назад +1

      Our schwinntek has failed us a few times 😡! 3 times when it was out and we needed to bring it in to depart the campground. We ended up replacing the 2 motors and just to let you know, the motors are about the size of a 8oz. slim can beverage 🙄, unbelievable, so small for a superslide to operate!! Good luck people. Happy camping 🏕

  • @robcleeton2606
    @robcleeton2606 2 года назад +1

    Good advice.

  • @XPLORCAMPER
    @XPLORCAMPER 2 года назад +1

    I have a rack and pinion slide. During travel I put pool noodles between the floor and bottom of the slide room. I like to believe it helps reduce the movement of the slide during traveling on our "well maintained roads".

  • @slant36
    @slant36 2 года назад +1

    So we brought home an 2021 R&P equipted TT yesterday. We did not want another Schwintek as we had a bad experience with our last rig (motor-home) . Boy is tomorrow morning's inspection going to be an eye opener. Thank goodness it's "only" a dinette slide!
    Already thinking - a shim (a length of strapping?) of wood to support that front lip?
    Thanks Uncle J for another stellar report!

  • @debbierhode6291
    @debbierhode6291 2 года назад +4

    Wow! Thank you for such an informative video! I never really thought about this before. Our trailer is totally accessible in road mode (to clarify, the bedroom has a separate door so we can access it separately) but the dinette and sofa are in the slide. We use the bathroom a lot in road mode but have rarely, if ever, used the sofa or dinette. Good to know not to. And as I was watching this vid, I had to go check--Rack & Pinion! Never knew the difference. Again, thank you for the info!

  • @buni9822
    @buni9822 2 года назад +1

    Thank You So Much For Your Info 👍 You Are Awesome

  • @andrew4029
    @andrew4029 2 года назад +1

    Informative video, Josh. Well done, sir!

  • @pennylynch4471
    @pennylynch4471 2 года назад +1

    Great explanation! it really helped to see it. I was trying to wrap my head around it when you explained it to me, but seeing it is so much better.
    Thanks!

  • @cecilgarbe1556
    @cecilgarbe1556 2 года назад

    Thanks for the helpful information.

  • @SMButler
    @SMButler 2 года назад

    Loved the eye movement referencing abandoning the driver's seat while going down the road! Yes, I have heard of folks who thought cruise control took care of everything much to their dismay. Now, when self driving motor homes....

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  2 года назад +2

      I would NEVER do something that silly
      I jam a broomstick into the wheel like an adult

  • @dangolden5696
    @dangolden5696 2 года назад +2

    As always, great information. Thank you for taking the time to educate us all.

  • @judystreich7333
    @judystreich7333 2 года назад

    👍 good information, I have a class c Jayco, 2020 24B and love the coach but not very confident about the slideout, have already had issues with it sticking. In the shop once, but......it may have to return because it is sticking. One end wants to go, other holding on.

  • @thetraveltrailerguy
    @thetraveltrailerguy 2 года назад +1

    Great video Josh, good information :)

  • @janwilliams3841
    @janwilliams3841 2 года назад +1

    Great information as always, I learn so much from you. Thanks, Josh.

  • @ronaldbeach8724
    @ronaldbeach8724 2 года назад +2

    Thank You for this information

  • @resatobin4303
    @resatobin4303 2 года назад +1

    I learned from this! Thanks!

  • @acdii
    @acdii 2 года назад +9

    A side note regarding schwintec slides you didn't cover. Never get in one that is partly opened, always fully extend or retract before using or you can knock the motors out of sync. Each side has a motor and two pinion gears, and the top ones can get damaged if the slide is used when partly opened.

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  2 года назад +1

      100%. I _thought_ I mentioned how they shouldn't be opened partially but didn't overly say this. Thank you for the extra clarity

  • @chasl3443
    @chasl3443 2 года назад

    Great info! Helped reinforce my desire to avoid slides for our next small trailer.

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  2 года назад

      Glad it was helpful! I hope manufacturers continue to expand on those slide offerings as I feel it’s an underserved market segment

  • @alantittle299
    @alantittle299 2 года назад +1

    Huge info prime for my current research. Bigger and taller than you, demand travel friendly access, value the class A clarity (which was not so much in my wheelhouse, but more considered now). Also great comments and tips from your "community". It could well be worth it to buy from Coldwater and hang out in Indiana in the last couple weeks of my build ( if I go that route) and drive her for a week long shakedown cruise, and let the pros touch her up before the trek back to Texas.

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  2 года назад

      We just expanded by the way! We now have a store in Longview, Texas! :)

  • @johnsonworks3724
    @johnsonworks3724 2 года назад +1

    A cell phone camera is a great second set of eyes, plus some you can turn on a light. This helps you see tight spots you can't.

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  2 года назад +1

      Oh man.. I use my phone's camera as a "tight space peek" all the time

  • @plove523
    @plove523 2 года назад +1

    Very informative!

  • @BassFever4Ever
    @BassFever4Ever 2 года назад +6

    Great informational video! I would like to hear more about tires and tire care. I have a 2018 Flagstaff vlite with 600 miles on the trailer. With 90 degree weather, I had a blow out going to my last outing. The tires look good but I guess their time was up. Blew both tires on right side at 65mph. No damage and the trailer handled well pulling over. I ended up replacing all 4 on the trip. The tires were stamped 2017. Again, great vid! Jason from East Texas.

    • @chrisfoxwell4128
      @chrisfoxwell4128 2 года назад

      The load index and speed rating are a good place to start. Trailers are often outfitted with tires that cover the bare minimum. Do you cover your tires? UV isn't great for them and sitting in one spot doesn't do them any favors either. 6 years is the life expectancy of a tire and not using it is probably more detrimental than putting miles on it.

    • @BassFever4Ever
      @BassFever4Ever 2 года назад

      @@chrisfoxwell4128 It crossed my mind while driving up to our park that it was getting close to purchasing new tires. Our rv sits on an asphalt driveway with a covered carport. The tires that were still good had plenty of tread and no weathering. The guy said factory tires are notorious for doing this. But still, only 550 miles on those tires lol Never had this issue with any of the bass boats I owned.

    • @marilynscripture6085
      @marilynscripture6085 2 года назад

      @@chrisfoxwell4128 Thank you for explaining why folks cover their RV tires. I often wondered why they were covered!

  • @crazycritterlady8788
    @crazycritterlady8788 2 года назад +1

    Thanks Josh for that info. I "may" have used a slide in roadmode before this video but now i know better. Just never gavw it a thought before, cuz everyone was in the vehicle in travelmode. once we stopped thats one of the first things done is to open the slides! now i can say we have plopped duffel bags in the dinette because we were to lazy to stow them elsewhere. but from now on that wont be happening. so again thanks for the info. we love ya ❤️ 💕

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  2 года назад

      So the big thing is just make sure the slide floor isn't moving/bowing under your weight.

    • @crazycritterlady8788
      @crazycritterlady8788 2 года назад

      Got it! 👍👍

  • @c1neal
    @c1neal 2 года назад +2

    Manufacturers ought to put roller ball casters at the lip to support it.

  • @ronaldpigeon4713
    @ronaldpigeon4713 2 года назад +1

    Great information, makes since but odd manufacturers do not advise either way.