Has anyone else noticed when you’re playing the game in Zanarkand before you fight Yunalesca, theres counts to a beat and in the game this hymn starts OFF BEAT on purpose (versus the other one that starts on time) and when I realized this it gave me fucking chills! So yes I love this version cuz it’s haunting 💖
Oh wow. I was only thinking that it was a choir of people singing together trying to harmonize and not doing the best job of it, being only flawed humans. I didn't actually think about that but it makes sense.
@@samuelhaverghast2442 This! Also, this 'hymn' is originally Zanarkandian. The people and summoners of Zanarkand sang this as 'defiance of Bevelle' while battling the unfair forces of Bevelle. After beating them (basically wiping them out of existence...), they took this hymn and used it in their religion. Even their 'prayer form' is literally the sign of victory from their Blitzball sport. Which is also Zanarkandian...
It's in one key. The trio of voices are creating a quartal harmony. Listen to Stravinsky's Mass (namely the Credo, and Kyrie) for the inspiration for the harmonic style in this piece.
@@leifktaylor You are right to point out it’s quartal harmony here. However, in my view, saying it’s in one “key” doesn’t really apply here since the tonality is ambiguous. I should add that the reason I worded it “3 or 4 keys at once” is for folks who might not be as knowledgeable about music theory, even if it is a somewhat simplistic way to talk about something more complex. Having said that, as I understand it, the basic hymn melody is in Dorian mode, and the two upper voices here are in d-dorian and a-dorian, respectively, just layered on top of each other. The bottom voice is a little tricky, however, since it doesn’t quite end up with the expected g-dorian transposition, and then at the last two phrases (hasatekanae, kutamae), Uematsu decides to make things even more crunchy. If you could identify what’s going on at that point, I think that would be nice because beyond just a chord cluster, I’m stumped at what’s going on there.
@@leifktaylor I've been searching RUclips for choral pieces with a similar harmonic style but haven't been able to find what I had in mind, and now I've found it. Thanks!
Yunalesca’s beliefs in what she believes is right for all of Spira and her people is wrong, and Yuna and her entourage of guardians knows this adamant fact of life to be true as she begins to resist and fight back (with tidus’ help from his beliefs of course and everyone else’s encouragement and support) to the point where it’s Yunalesca who permanently bites the dust as one of the bad guys. But despite all this, you can’t help but get the kind of hauntingly beautiful vibe given off by all the hymn singers in the background who all collectively became the final aeon themselves
The hymn isn't religious in nature. It was a song composed and sung by the people of Zanakand in defiance of Bevelle's military ambitions against their city state. What religious associations there is to this song is superficial. It is the style in which it is sung which evokes the style of religious musical traditions of our world such as the sound of Buddhist monks chanting sutras or Christian monks singing in Gregorian chant. The latter makes use of complex tonal ranges and polyphony to create a deep and uplifting heavenly feel to the song they render.
I don't think the singer's a specific person unlike with the other Hymns. Rather, they picked deep male voices to make it sound more foreboding than all the other Hymns so far, to hit that this place is...off, in a way. Contrast with the far more harmonious Spira Hymn.
15 years ago, i walked thru the halls of the Vatican, singing this song. A year later, i got Cancer. 6 months later it came back. 4 years later my family disowned me. 10 years later i became homeless. 12 years later i found a place to live with perverted sociopath who started stalking me. And thats my deep emotional comment about how this game effected my life. Be careful about your sacrilege kids.
I'm so sorry for what happened in ur life, but i ask u, are you sure that the two things (have sung the hymn of the faith in Vatican halls and what happened in ur life) are connected?
@@FinalFantasyInterest oh no, definitely not. Ive just always joked with myself about how i got cursed that day. I was playing ffx last month laughing about it when i heard the song.
The songs actually praising yu yevon 😅 so it's kinda makes sense if you sing it inside the vatican 😢 sorry for all the troubles you have in life i hope you find happiness again.
"Let me be...... your liberator."
this game is an all time masterpiece for sure. The story, the soundtrack, the characters..... proudly playing for the second time since 2008 I guess
The world in FFX is beautiful and heavenly, by far my favorite FF setting!
In my opinion FFX isn't just the best FF game but the best video game of all time IMO.
Has anyone else noticed when you’re playing the game in Zanarkand before you fight Yunalesca, theres counts to a beat and in the game this hymn starts OFF BEAT on purpose (versus the other one that starts on time) and when I realized this it gave me fucking chills! So yes I love this version cuz it’s haunting 💖
this one was probably one of my favorites tbh just bc of how evil it sounded
Oh wow. I was only thinking that it was a choir of people singing together trying to harmonize and not doing the best job of it, being only flawed humans. I didn't actually think about that but it makes sense.
@@esta7763 it's Gregorian-style. gives this bit a sort of warped transcendence
See... I think this isn't just Lord Zaon singing. No. I think this is every single person ever used as the final aeon.
Jecht too, that's interesting.
@@SOLDIER_Class1_Avi exactly
I like that idea too but I can't hear the female guardian that Lady Yocun used.
I also just realized that as Shuyin is to Tidus as Lord Zaon is to Jecht
@@SOLDIER_Class1_Avi that’s interesting, but how do you figure
All is not what it seems. That’s the vibe I get from this song!
Something is rotten in the state of Zanarkand.
Indeed. There is.
It's like everything about it is wrong.
@@DoubleADwarf Sin and the religion that Spira follows.. is the vengeance of Zanarkand, a nation that was destroyed because of Bevelles lust for power
@@samuelhaverghast2442 This! Also, this 'hymn' is originally Zanarkandian. The people and summoners of Zanarkand sang this as 'defiance of Bevelle' while battling the unfair forces of Bevelle. After beating them (basically wiping them out of existence...), they took this hymn and used it in their religion. Even their 'prayer form' is literally the sign of victory from their Blitzball sport. Which is also Zanarkandian...
Hope is comforting. It allows us to accept fate, no matter how tragic it might be
NOOOOO!
Where is the sense in all this?
Braska believed in Yevon's teachings and died for them!
Jecht believed in Braska and gave his life for him!
@@VaatiOfDarkness They chose to die, because they had hope.
@@VaatiOfDarkness Poor creature. You would throw away hope.
@@VaatiOfDarkness chills part of the game
@@azazel166 "UUUUURRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGHHHH!!!!"
So haunting.
Part of what makes this version of the hymn so haunting is that it’s just the melody sung in 3, maybe 4 different keys at the same time.
It's in one key. The trio of voices are creating a quartal harmony. Listen to Stravinsky's Mass (namely the Credo, and Kyrie) for the inspiration for the harmonic style in this piece.
Is this actually in ffx though, I don't remember hearing this in any of my other playthroughs.
@@leifktaylor You are right to point out it’s quartal harmony here. However, in my view, saying it’s in one “key” doesn’t really apply here since the tonality is ambiguous. I should add that the reason I worded it “3 or 4 keys at once” is for folks who might not be as knowledgeable about music theory, even if it is a somewhat simplistic way to talk about something more complex. Having said that, as I understand it, the basic hymn melody is in Dorian mode, and the two upper voices here are in d-dorian and a-dorian, respectively, just layered on top of each other. The bottom voice is a little tricky, however, since it doesn’t quite end up with the expected g-dorian transposition, and then at the last two phrases (hasatekanae, kutamae), Uematsu decides to make things even more crunchy. If you could identify what’s going on at that point, I think that would be nice because beyond just a chord cluster, I’m stumped at what’s going on there.
@@AgentXZ99 yes when u speak with Yunalesca. Just got there in my most recent playthrough
@@leifktaylor I've been searching RUclips for choral pieces with a similar harmonic style but haven't been able to find what I had in mind, and now I've found it. Thanks!
There is something unsettling about this one.
Exactly, especially at the last part which sounds just off-key enough to be unsettling.
It’s meant to be unsettling, played at a time when the characters have their faith completely shaken.
It is the sinister reveal of the Yevon religion and Yunalesca's revelations. This part was the most shocking in the game to me.
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ best final fantasy of them all !!!!!
Yunalesca’s beliefs in what she believes is right for all of Spira and her people is wrong, and Yuna and her entourage of guardians knows this adamant fact of life to be true as she begins to resist and fight back (with tidus’ help from his beliefs of course and everyone else’s encouragement and support) to the point where it’s Yunalesca who permanently bites the dust as one of the bad guys.
But despite all this, you can’t help but get the kind of hauntingly beautiful vibe given off by all the hymn singers in the background who all collectively became the final aeon themselves
The BEST one
I NO RE YO
い の れ よ
E BO N JU
え ぼ ん じゅ
YU ME MI YO
ゆ め み よ
I NO RI GO
い の り ご
HA TE NA KU
は て な く
SA KA E TA MA E
さ か え た ま え
wow, mind-blown
Well done. These are the Japanese syllables that were used for this hymn. A prayer to worship Yevon.
i love this
“If I die, so does the Final Aeon. And with it, Spira’s last hope.”
"Then we'll find Spira a new hope."
Almost sounds like this was the original one, and the other Fayth kind of popularised it, making it less 'religious' and more of a folk song.
The hymn isn't religious in nature. It was a song composed and sung by the people of Zanakand in defiance of Bevelle's military ambitions against their city state.
What religious associations there is to this song is superficial. It is the style in which it is sung which evokes the style of religious musical traditions of our world such as the sound of Buddhist monks chanting sutras or Christian monks singing in Gregorian chant. The latter makes use of complex tonal ranges and polyphony to create a deep and uplifting heavenly feel to the song they render.
@@MarcusCato275 polyphony lolol
Nice
Now we need the alternate (yu-yevon) theme extender
Please explain what it will do. :)
Makkaru112 I mean, if you search for Alternate Choir of fate (or Yu-yevon theme) there’s like only video that’s last 1 minute.
This Is The Best Music
Isn't this Lord Zaon, not Yunalesca?
Interesting take!!!
I don't think the singer's a specific person unlike with the other Hymns. Rather, they picked deep male voices to make it sound more foreboding than all the other Hymns so far, to hit that this place is...off, in a way. Contrast with the far more harmonious Spira Hymn.
this battle about killed me...
her's sounds so corrupted
15 years ago, i walked thru the halls of the Vatican, singing this song.
A year later, i got Cancer.
6 months later it came back.
4 years later my family disowned me.
10 years later i became homeless.
12 years later i found a place to live with perverted sociopath who started stalking me.
And thats my deep emotional comment about how this game effected my life.
Be careful about your sacrilege kids.
I'm so sorry for what happened in ur life, but i ask u, are you sure that the two things (have sung the hymn of the faith in Vatican halls and what happened in ur life) are connected?
@@FinalFantasyInterest oh no, definitely not. Ive just always joked with myself about how i got cursed that day. I was playing ffx last month laughing about it when i heard the song.
The songs actually praising yu yevon 😅 so it's kinda makes sense if you sing it inside the vatican 😢 sorry for all the troubles you have in life i hope you find happiness again.