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  • @rmelzhim6033
    @rmelzhim6033 3 месяца назад +99

    When the caller insisted that you call him 'Jesus Loves You' every single time, that's 100% troll confirmation right there.

    • @Frankya92
      @Frankya92 3 месяца назад +9

      That, or unbelievably smug

    • @LOwens-xf8yo
      @LOwens-xf8yo 3 месяца назад +1

      Names aren’t even that necessary in these discussion

    • @GoodieWhiteHat
      @GoodieWhiteHat 3 месяца назад

      I see it as delusional. The caller wants to influence the audience by having the hosts say ‘Jesus loves you’ repeatedly. Some Christians really think this sort of thing ‘plants a seed’ which will slowly affect the person who hears it, opening them up to further influences… actually that sounds more like a parasitic takeover.😂

  • @petyrkowalski9887
    @petyrkowalski9887 2 месяца назад +1

    Religious people preaching on morality is rich 😂

  • @jmorris023
    @jmorris023 3 месяца назад +66

    These are the people that scare me the most. It makes me hope at some point the church will just tell people "listen, there is no god, we're just doing it for money, so settle down with the craziness".

    • @hituanly1
      @hituanly1 3 месяца назад

      😂 Love it. 👍

    • @davidmandell1727
      @davidmandell1727 3 месяца назад +1

      Money, and little boys. Just ask Louis CK.

    • @steveyuhas9278
      @steveyuhas9278 3 месяца назад

      ​@@davidmandell1727 So I guess you could say they are doing it for...the booty? Sorry I'll see myself out.

  • @KasperKatje
    @KasperKatje 3 месяца назад +55

    This is a perfect example why it is dangerous to base your morals on religion and a 3,000 year old book.
    "God said so/my holy book says so" but they lack the reasoning skills to determine if something is moral or not.

    • @ossiedunstan4419
      @ossiedunstan4419 3 месяца назад

      the torah is 3 thousand years old the koran was 1101 AD and christian bible is still changing to this day.50,000 + denominations based on the christians bible( 49 CE through, as late as, the mid-2nd century CE)and threat number grows weekly..

  • @johnsperry9494
    @johnsperry9494 3 месяца назад +16

    You want to know about Jesus? How would you like it if someone came up to you and said, “I love you, I really, really love you, but if you don’t love me back, I’m going to set you on fire. That’s Jesus. That’s not salvation, that’s extortion. And it’s definitely not love. It’s like a Mafia thug telling you to obey the boss or I’m going to break your kneecaps. If you can love that person, you have a twisted idea of love.

  • @anushkasekkingstad1300
    @anushkasekkingstad1300 3 месяца назад +40

    We’re very fortunate that there’s no evidence for the existence of such a malevolent monster. Life would be truly appalling is such evil existed.

    • @odinson6348
      @odinson6348 3 месяца назад +4

      It's kinda why I see the devil as a good guy. Jesus was too for the most part. But God is a true tyrant.

    • @anushkasekkingstad1300
      @anushkasekkingstad1300 3 месяца назад +1

      @@odinson6348 I don’t believe in the supernatural. There’s no evidence to support a claim that these three ever existed so nobody I know wastes time thinking about them. We in the Nordics we’re experts at inventing imaginary gods but we long ago moved them to the realm of mythology. English speaking nations named their days of the week after them for reasons I don’t try to understand. Our young daughters enjoy their myths as bedtime reading.

    • @odinson6348
      @odinson6348 3 месяца назад +4

      @@anushkasekkingstad1300
      I never eluded to them being real. I was referring to them as the characters in the story.

    • @anushkasekkingstad1300
      @anushkasekkingstad1300 3 месяца назад +1

      @@odinson6348 I don’t think I suggested that you imagined them as being real.

    • @themanwithnoname1839
      @themanwithnoname1839 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@anushkasekkingstad1300you didnt, but you also gave a comment that comes off as very confrontational, all the other guy did was make a statement regarding what he thinks and you treated it in a VERY serious way lmfao calm down mate, high blood pressure kills, but have a nice day

  • @toughenupfluffy7294
    @toughenupfluffy7294 3 месяца назад +12

    Dude apparently thinks so highly of himself that he can speak for god. Typical narcissist.

  • @mr.c2485
    @mr.c2485 3 месяца назад +31

    My mom used to say that when my siblings and I were being unruly. “I brought you into this world and I can take you out”!
    Maybe my mom was god! 😮😊

    • @kevinkoch-jj1uj
      @kevinkoch-jj1uj 3 месяца назад +3

      Mom's are agents of "god" 😅

    • @communications23
      @communications23 3 месяца назад +5

      "Mother is the name for God in the lips and hearts of little children."

    • @meltorme-ntor2933
      @meltorme-ntor2933 3 месяца назад +4

      @@communications23 Did you just quote "The Crow"??!! Cool!

    • @communications23
      @communications23 3 месяца назад +3

      @@meltorme-ntor2933That's where I know the quote from, but it's originally William Makepeace Thackeray. The film not so much but the visual novel quotes extensively from various sources.

  • @XarXXon
    @XarXXon 3 месяца назад +5

    Another typical theist who doesn't have the slightest clue about their bible.

  • @Frankya92
    @Frankya92 3 месяца назад +11

    “I insist you call me JesusLovesYou”. I can’t stand these religious types. I really hope this guy was a troll

    • @FrikInCasualMode
      @FrikInCasualMode 3 месяца назад +3

      In turn I would demand he address me solely as " I worship Satan." I wonder how would he like to utter this sentence couple dozen of times?

  • @brucewilliams4152
    @brucewilliams4152 3 месяца назад +11

    And Jesus loves you shows how genocides happen in Rwanda, everything is sanctioned by God's right

  • @ΘάνατοςΧορτοφάγος
    @ΘάνατοςΧορτοφάγος 3 месяца назад +9

    Jesus loves you, including those amalekite babies that were slaughtered...🤯

  • @MrCanis4
    @MrCanis4 3 месяца назад +9

    Let's us hope he never has kids.

    • @Phorrophor
      @Phorrophor 3 месяца назад +2

      Well from what he said, I don't think he knows how. He said that if he had a child that he would NOT have given it life

  • @einienj3281
    @einienj3281 3 месяца назад +35

    Why do theists love authoritarians?

    • @Wiggimus
      @Wiggimus 3 месяца назад +19

      It's probably the persecution complex.

    • @Lord_CV
      @Lord_CV 3 месяца назад +20

      They worship one

    • @einienj3281
      @einienj3281 3 месяца назад +2

      I'm trying to answer, but my comments are getting deleted 😭

    • @mr.c2485
      @mr.c2485 3 месяца назад +11

      🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑

    • @Wiggimus
      @Wiggimus 3 месяца назад +5

      @@einienj3281 *oof...*
      That comment filter is way too strong 😒

  • @brianmonks8657
    @brianmonks8657 3 месяца назад +9

    He seems to be mixing up the concept that god has the power to do whatever he wants to anybody with the concept that anything he does or commands must good. Might really does make right in his world view. I have more respect for the older view that god is an angry spiteful being that needs to be feared than this newer god is love, just ignore all the evil he does by calling his evil good!

  • @odinson6348
    @odinson6348 3 месяца назад +9

    The might is right position. No different than saying if someone has the strength to harm you, they can't be morally wrong in harming you.

  • @wyldink1
    @wyldink1 3 месяца назад +5

    Might makes right in the Christian worldview. And then they get mad when you force them to obey the law. Like allowing abortion, for example.

  • @nuclearsimian3281
    @nuclearsimian3281 3 месяца назад +9

    Oh, so might makes right. Fuck that.

  • @ARoll925
    @ARoll925 3 месяца назад +15

    Maybe the most immoral caller I have ever heard on one of these shows

    • @freddan6fly
      @freddan6fly 3 месяца назад +7

      Darth Dawkins have been calling too.

    • @Nocturnalux
      @Nocturnalux 3 месяца назад +4

      That one woman who said the Crusades were a good thing is a strong contendor.

    • @freddan6fly
      @freddan6fly 3 месяца назад +3

      Time to make a bottom apologist tier list on your channel

  • @erikhviid3189
    @erikhviid3189 3 месяца назад +12

    Religiuos people is “holy crap”.
    I hope jesuslovesyou is behind bars.

  • @paulhaynes3688
    @paulhaynes3688 3 месяца назад +4

    Just proof that theists are delusional

  • @alonsomejia1704
    @alonsomejia1704 2 месяца назад +3

    There is not bigger hate than the Christian’s love!

  • @deusbeowulf6039
    @deusbeowulf6039 2 месяца назад +3

    Sounds like celestial facism. I’m out✌️

  • @Taylor-vz4ot
    @Taylor-vz4ot 3 месяца назад +3

    So because god has power, he can do whatever he wants? sounds less like a god and more like a current day republican.

  • @feedingravens
    @feedingravens 3 месяца назад +11

    Jesus Loves You = J L Y --> Jelly

  • @bobmudge4836
    @bobmudge4836 2 месяца назад +2

    Note to wannabe apologists: It would be much more honest to say “Let me rationalize …” or “Let me excuse …” than to say “Let me explain ….”

  • @swedendive
    @swedendive 3 месяца назад +3

    This caller can easy be a massmurdurer

  • @deafnewt6361
    @deafnewt6361 3 месяца назад +2

    This guy doesn't have any good reason for any of the ideas he expressed. And he does an even poorer job of communicating it.

  • @communications23
    @communications23 3 месяца назад +5

    Stockholm syndrome

  • @richardp7116
    @richardp7116 2 месяца назад +1

    Sickening immoral justifications for a clearly monstrous evil god. Or more like monstrous evil people who claimed to be obeying god

  • @Itswayningout
    @Itswayningout Месяц назад +1

    This guy should enter the Olympics for mental gymnastics

  • @JanetStarChild
    @JanetStarChild 2 месяца назад +1

    Christians living in the Bizarro world, where 'no' means "yes", and 'hate' means "love".

  • @kathleenannelaverty
    @kathleenannelaverty 3 месяца назад +2

    Like in cooking by recipe and people with their own tastes and allergies ameliorate the cooking of the food, then try to serve it up and expect me to eat it!!

  • @victoriafuller4148
    @victoriafuller4148 2 месяца назад +1

    I know what William Lane Craig says about killing babies. He justifies it by saying God takes the innocents straight to heaven. Christians can justify anything with their different interpretations….that’s the special thing about the Bible. It says anything you WANT it to say.

  • @steveyuhas9278
    @steveyuhas9278 3 месяца назад +1

    Imagine being so subservient that you don't just agree with an individual that would burn people you love for all eternity, you don't just worship that individual that would burn people you love for all eternity.... But you LOVE that individual that would burn people you love for all eternity... you think said individual is the height and source of what is moral and good.
    This is a sick and twisted way of viewing the world. I think people that believe this are victims. Because that is the language of an abuse victim.

  • @JustReed
    @JustReed 3 месяца назад +1

    I'm an Ex-Christian and now Deist. It's very easy to talk about something one can't prove. That's defined as ignorance. If there is a Divine source, we are here by our own free will and choice. Leave 'God' out this this like little spoiled, entitled children most religious people are. If there is life after death, there is nothing to worry about. I believe humanity chose to be here to have a human experience. The Divine leaves us to our own demise. Ever wonder why Christians don't have the faith to walk on water or other great works Jesus has done. Because the NT is just a manmade story.

  • @markwoods4439
    @markwoods4439 2 месяца назад +1

    If theists wanna believe in any god and be a slave too them I’m ok with that. But for me, I’m not falling for it. No gods, no masters for me cause I think for myself!!!

  • @canbest7668
    @canbest7668 2 месяца назад +1

    When you can’t explain why your book is true you should know you are in trouble

  • @StevenNsubuga
    @StevenNsubuga 2 месяца назад +1

    The mental contortions one has to subject oneself to in order to keep believing this stuff is amazing. Ultimately all they have are clichés which they repeat over and over until the brain no longer processes the statements.

  • @wizardsuth
    @wizardsuth 2 месяца назад +1

    Not only is the numb er of people who believe a claim evidence for the truth of the claim, the fact that billions of people have countless mutually incompatible religious beliefs shows that the justification they use for those beliefs (i.e. faith) is unreliable. If you care about whether what you believe is actually true, you must reject faith as a justification for belief.

  • @Kellie08
    @Kellie08 2 месяца назад +1

    The more I listen to the ignorance of theists the more thankful I am that my parents were atheists.

  • @MichaelBath-xv5bd
    @MichaelBath-xv5bd 2 месяца назад +1

    I must say that this Berk of a caller does not represent anyone I know of in the UK 🇬🇧

  • @heiyuall
    @heiyuall 3 месяца назад +1

    Also, that josh fearmonger level name stunt was pathetic.

  • @CH-in9kj
    @CH-in9kj Месяц назад +1

    Why would they even put up with a caller that gives a bullshit name like that? If it were me I would take em out of the call list for that

  • @AntiTheist_Atheist
    @AntiTheist_Atheist 2 месяца назад +1

    Gods can't do sshhh.......😂 people can though

  • @williamjohn2910
    @williamjohn2910 2 месяца назад +1

    This guy is another potential evil dictator.

  • @aliasalias8681
    @aliasalias8681 3 месяца назад +2

    “Which was the bad part?” Fuckin WOW.

  • @somersetcace1
    @somersetcace1 3 месяца назад +4

    Might makes right - Also, morals are objective! 🙄

  • @williamjohn2910
    @williamjohn2910 2 месяца назад +1

    Simpleton.

  • @ossiedunstan4419
    @ossiedunstan4419 3 месяца назад +3

    If god can do what he wants to us , why does he use other people to write his babble and genocide people in his name !

  • @adamrspears1981
    @adamrspears1981 2 месяца назад +1

    GOD hates.

  • @pete6769
    @pete6769 3 месяца назад +1

    So he follows a group that claims “they know what God thinks”, not “what God thinks”! WTF!

  • @colinharrison6608
    @colinharrison6608 3 месяца назад +5

    s arguments from ignorance when they have no evidence. What amazes me is that they appear to know God and how he thinks, but they are thinking it themselves and making it out to be God's word. The biggest problem with religion is that God is used as an authority for whatever they want to say and do. The sad thing is that nobody knows if God exists. All the arguments they give are just arguments not proof.

  • @sjhoneywell6235
    @sjhoneywell6235 3 месяца назад +1

    So, how do you think that conversation went in his head before he called?

  • @topgunaudio7983
    @topgunaudio7983 3 месяца назад +3

    Jesus loves us as much as we love lice going by the bible.

  • @brucewilliams4152
    @brucewilliams4152 3 месяца назад +2

    Get the caller to find contemporary historical evidence or documents for Jesus from the reign of Augustus and Tiberius

  • @sultan.savalan
    @sultan.savalan Месяц назад

    Jmike playing gotcha.... let the caller talk and finish the point and use logic. As always has been done in these shows.

  • @tf3207
    @tf3207 2 месяца назад

    Boring theists just calling in to ramble: Helping everyone cure insomnia for 2000 years

  • @williamjohn2910
    @williamjohn2910 2 месяца назад

    I though people like this only lived in America not in my country. He's advocating abuse on a horrific level.

  • @johnsperry9494
    @johnsperry9494 3 месяца назад

    Some people “cherry-pick” the bible, go along with the “good” parts, ignore the “bad” parts. If you are capable of recognizing something as good or bad, right or wrong, then what do you need the book for? Again, their sense of good and bad, or right and wrong, preceded and existed outside of their reading of the Bible.

  • @thetruefirelord2248
    @thetruefirelord2248 3 месяца назад

    Nothing crueler than Christian love
    They think they are being kind while telling themselves not to sin and telling others, they are sinners and they are going to hell... but Jesus loves you anyway
    It's a reminder, self comfort, and 'shame on you' at the same time.

  • @kevinfoster6642
    @kevinfoster6642 2 месяца назад

    Damn this guy can't seem to answer anything straight forward.. very annoying

  • @heiyuall
    @heiyuall 3 месяца назад

    “Sure there are people who eat food, bread, meat, plants, but they all breathe so everyone is a breatharian blessed by our edible savior.”
    The existence of All religion is in no way evidence towards proving A religion, and in fact is great evidence against it.

  • @MichaelBath-xv5bd
    @MichaelBath-xv5bd 2 месяца назад

    What god was this caller talking about Jesus ?

  • @autisiens
    @autisiens 2 месяца назад

    Why does God have to be male? Maybe male and female are designs.

  • @williamjohn2910
    @williamjohn2910 2 месяца назад

    Surely the most confused caller ever.

  • @adamrspears1981
    @adamrspears1981 2 месяца назад

    GOD hates the lords of Salem.

  • @blccdcrange
    @blccdcrange 2 месяца назад

    Idk why yall let him talk so long tbh

  • @tedmoy
    @tedmoy 2 месяца назад

    god is pro-choice. huh...

  • @MrYelly
    @MrYelly 2 месяца назад

    Guy is a nutcase

  • @oscarsalas1
    @oscarsalas1 3 месяца назад

    "UK"

  • @kevinkoch-jj1uj
    @kevinkoch-jj1uj 3 месяца назад

    Apologetic excuses all the way down.

    • @Phorrophor
      @Phorrophor 3 месяца назад +1

      Turtles turtles rah rah rah

  • @macadon041
    @macadon041 3 месяца назад +2

    2nd Dammit

  • @Jeremy-xu3yu
    @Jeremy-xu3yu 3 месяца назад +2

    Repent of your sins. Believe in Jesus Christ for salvation and become a new person in this life. John 3:16, Luke 13:3, 1 Peter 1:23 KJV

    • @GreenRevenant1515
      @GreenRevenant1515 3 месяца назад +28

      When you can provide solid evidence, this god actually exist then maybe I'll consider it until then all you're saying is do this thing because a book says to do it.

    • @Wiggimus
      @Wiggimus 3 месяца назад +11

      🥱

    • @Lord_CV
      @Lord_CV 3 месяца назад +17

      May the flying spaghetti monster show you the true path to salvation

    • @tonyfendex2558
      @tonyfendex2558 3 месяца назад +4

      @@GreenRevenant1515 very well-said!!!!!!

    • @albaniahenry-franklin2829
      @albaniahenry-franklin2829 3 месяца назад +11

      Vishnu, Marduk, Dagon, Osiris, Quetzacoatl, Chemosh, and a few other of the deities that people have believed in over the millenia have told me, through untestable direct "divine revelation", that your Buy-Bull isn't true and your deity false. My six multi-ethnic deities are obviously greater than your one, so WE win🤗🤣🤣

  • @WizardImp
    @WizardImp 2 месяца назад

    The poms are the bloody worst.
    Whenever I hear; "Let's go to so-and-so from England....", I'm like; "Oh, fuck me, here we go again...."