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  • @durrutti
    @durrutti 19 дней назад +106

    ”I’m a critical person”
    “I start with the assumption that god is real and work myself backwards”
    That’s NOT how you do critical thinking!

    • @EdGein542
      @EdGein542 18 дней назад

      @@durrutti No no no. You start with the know laws of physics….energy cannot be created from non energy then you realize the universe could not have started on its own. Even the Big Bang describes the process of creation….everything from nothing

    • @PhillipJermakian
      @PhillipJermakian 15 дней назад +1

      True but usually critical thinking begins with some small finite problem and not needing to first understand the sum totally of existance.

    • @durrutti
      @durrutti 15 дней назад +10

      @@PhillipJermakian It’s never good thinking to start with the answer and work your way backwards, no matter what

    • @PhillipJermakian
      @PhillipJermakian 15 дней назад +2

      @durrutti Yea good point.

  • @qwadratix
    @qwadratix 20 дней назад +20

    Every theist: 'I used to be an atheist (After my birth and until my parents took me to church for the first time three days later.)'

    • @Childfree334
      @Childfree334 19 дней назад +3

      Right. I was once a believer because I was indoctrinated as a child. We believe what our parents tell us to believe. But once I actually read the Bible and started asking some serious questions that NO Christian wanted to answer, the light bulb 💡 finally came on. Somehow, I always KNEW it was all fake, but the anger I encountered for asking questions confirmed it.

    • @borthwrenblanston6632
      @borthwrenblanston6632 19 дней назад

      ​@@Childfree334 "FAKE!" Screams the lost and clueless atheist that thinks star dust, moist rocks and mud puddles have the INTELLIGENCE, POWER, PURPOSE, RESOURCES AND MEANS to create/design LIFE, INTELLIGENCE, LOVE, CONSCIOUSNESS, MORALITY, the human being and ALL the co-existent bodily systems (circulatory, respiratory, reproductive, pulmonic, digestive, skeletal, muscular, nervous, body (skin), etc., etc.) intertwined in co-dependent order in the human body :) Atheism is pure idiocy.
      The religious cult of atheism is INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS. That's because atheism RUNS from "reality." I would add that as an atheist, you're bankrupt of RATIONAL/POSSIBLE causes for life, intelligence, consciousness, morality and ALL the co-existent bodily systems (circulatory, respiratory, reproductive, pulmonic, digestive, skeletal, muscular, nervous, body (skin), etc., etc.) intertwined in co-dependent order in the human body. Atheism has no RATIONAL/POSSIBLE, step by step atheist explanation for reality. That’s because there isn’t one. THINK ABOUT what you’re getting into w/ the cult of atheism. GET OUT NOW. I’ll help you find truth. Atheism has none.
      These 2 hosts are fools (atheists) and their less-than-worthless, asinine, lost & clueless religious cult of atheism is INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS. No atheist has a RATIONAL/POSSIBLE, step-by-step atheist explanation for reality. That's because there isn't one. THESE GUYS ADMIT THAT THEY HAVE NO ANSWERS!!!
      The fact remains that along w/ DYING/FINITE space/matter/energy, TIME had a cause. The logical conclusion (when we follow the evidence) is that such a cause is TIMELESS. And if you're TIMELESS, do you have a beginning or end? No. We call that cause "OUR INFINITE, SUPERNATURAL GOD," who by definition is TIMELESS, CHANGELESS, BEGINNINGLESS, SPACELESS, IMMATERIAL and ENORMOUSLY POWERFUL.
      These topics are the most important topics known; thus, EVERYONE should have a vast understanding of the facts that frame the truth of these topics and not be so content to gulp down the false propaganda of channels such as this one. THESE GUYS ADMIT THAT THEY HAVE NO ANSWERS!!!
      It's far more plausible that God exists than not; otherwise a mud puddle DID IT. Without God, one would have to believe something like this: A rock came from a bang, got wet and produced LIFE from SOUP. There is no POSSIBLE BRIDGE to get from a ROCK to YOU. The cult of Atheism is just that easy to kill. There's no possibility that a MINDLESS, UNGUIDED wet rock produced the human being, 9 million DIFFERENT animals & 300,000 DIFFERENT plants over time from basically NOTHING.
      Try to learn what I'm teaching you before it's too late (when your temporary free will expires at your last gasp on earth and you go to an eternal hell - wishing you had never been born). YOU CAN’T AFFORD TO GET THIS WRONG. Because 100+ trillion yrs from the moment you enter hell, it won’t even be the start of eternity! For now, you and every facet of your asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism are hereby debunked (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, evolution, gain of complexity/gain of new information/new anatomy).
      Yeah, now you see why I've totally dominated this entire channel for 12 yrs.

  • @Gerryjournal
    @Gerryjournal 14 дней назад

    "Evidence". I wonder how many definitions of the word evidence are out there. I find zero evidence in any religion. In fact I find exactly the opposed. I always come up with fraud, fake, myth etc'

  • @albergan3174
    @albergan3174 20 дней назад +2

    Mark never answers questions

  • @wwlib5390
    @wwlib5390 19 дней назад

    Jesus loves you. His purpose for you is to become holy and blameless before Him (Ephesians 1). He made that possible to attain for those who desire it only through John 3 16. You can 'come and see' for yourself.

    • @Seticzech-cz
      @Seticzech-cz 19 дней назад +2

      Stop luring people into your twisted cult!

    • @Seticzech-cz
      @Seticzech-cz 19 дней назад +2

      Of course you've deleted your previous comments. 😀
      I'll give you 5 verses from your "holy" book. Explain which version of the same is correct and why. Then explain how ANYONE SANE can believe ANYTHING from that book. *BE HONEST,* let's see if you can do that.
      Who incited David to count the flghting men of lsrael?
      - God did (2 Samuel 24: 1)
      - Satan did (I Chronicles 2 1:1)
      In that count how many fighting men were found in lsrael?
      - Eight hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
      - One million, one hundred thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)
      When did David bring the Ark of the Covenant to JerusaIem? Before defeating the Philistines or after?
      - After (2 Samuel 5 and 6)
      - Before (I Chronicles 13 and 14)
      Did Joshua and the lsraelites capture JerusaIem?
      - Yes (Joshua 10:23, 40)
      - No (Joshua 15:63)
      Jesus descended from which son of David?
      - Solomon (Matthew 1:6)
      - Nathan(Luke3:31)

    • @wwlib5390
      @wwlib5390 18 дней назад

      ​@@Seticzech-cz Given your previous comment here and elsewhere, here's your complete answer.
      "Go to this people (that's YOU) and say, “You will keep on hearing, but will not understand; And you will keep on seeing, but will not perceive" Acts 28:26) Therefore, I have no interest in sharing God's holy wisdom with you for you have proven to be incapable of understanding it and prefer to lean on your own understanding. Such is the fruit of atheism.

    • @Seticzech-cz
      @Seticzech-cz 18 дней назад +2

      @@wwlib5390 This is not answer, this is dodging. It's clear you have no answer and you have no intention to be honest because without lying, your beliefs fall apart.
      I will save this your dishonesty and put is under every of your comments.

    • @Seticzech-cz
      @Seticzech-cz 18 дней назад

      @@wwlib5390 You're proving my point. 🙂

  • @thedeebo410
    @thedeebo410 19 дней назад +32

    Looks like _my_ immediate skepticism that the caller is, or ever was, a skeptic was not misplaced.

  • @vandal280
    @vandal280 11 дней назад +11

    Did he actually just claim to be a skeptical person and then like two sentences later state that he starts with the conclusion that there is a god and works backwards from there? With absolutely zero sense of irony?

  • @joeyangtree1862
    @joeyangtree1862 19 дней назад +36

    What does it even mean that Jesus "spoke with such authority?" Even if we accept that Jesus said what the Bible claims, how does it have "authority", unless you have already accepted that he was divine? Did Confucius speak with authority? Did Socrates?

    • @Eden_jasper
      @Eden_jasper 19 дней назад +12

      Hitler spoke with authority. Doesn't mean I take his words as gospel.

    • @bodricpriest8816
      @bodricpriest8816 19 дней назад +14

      They mistake confidence with authority, it's why they listen to preachers.

    • @Mosz
      @Mosz 16 дней назад +1

      obviously he had so much authority that people were scared to even mention his name for 40 [years] from the time of the resurrection, that is proof he existed.

    • @joeyangtree1862
      @joeyangtree1862 15 дней назад +4

      @@Mosz So, like Voldemort 😀

    • @Insertia_Nameia
      @Insertia_Nameia 6 дней назад

      ​Yup. My dad and brother are both good at taking advantage of this. My dad used to charm a lot of people just because he said and did thihs with confidence. He got away with a lot of things as well for it. My brother has broken into a lot of places for various reasons without ever actually breaking in, in fact was let in, because he knows how to speak with unwavering confidence and how to act like he's supposed to be there. @@bodricpriest8816

  • @shanewilson7994
    @shanewilson7994 19 дней назад +46

    Mark claims he believes in god due to the evidence.
    Doesn't present anything remotely reliable as evidence.

  • @Gundamman
    @Gundamman 17 дней назад +13

    When a skeptic says, "atheists think/say," you already know, they were never a skeptic.

  • @VogtTD
    @VogtTD 12 дней назад +12

    “I’m a skeptical person, so I start with special pleading”.

  • @richardmooney383
    @richardmooney383 17 дней назад +20

    All the "how?", "why?", "what?" questions have the same answer for Christians: "Magic!".

    • @powbobs
      @powbobs 11 дней назад

      They hate that word.
      That’s for witches apparently.
      It’s hilarious.

  • @nuclearsimian3281
    @nuclearsimian3281 19 дней назад +53

    Religious people aren't skeptics. Its not about probability. Its about blind faith.

    • @MicheleGardini
      @MicheleGardini 19 дней назад +1

      They are, as long as it is used by them regarding the opinions of others.

    • @ijaygee1
      @ijaygee1 18 дней назад +2

      They are sceptical of science, reality, history, even logic and rationality. That's blind faith for you...

    • @courtneybrown5958
      @courtneybrown5958 9 дней назад +1

      If I say I'm a skeptic enough times, maybe someone will eventually believe me!

  • @TrumansDad
    @TrumansDad 12 дней назад +7

    The caller is completely disingenuous. "My Beliefs are right because they are mine - I gave you proof" is just garbage.

  • @MrCanis4
    @MrCanis4 19 дней назад +20

    Always ‘Atheism’. Why not ‘Those who do not believe in MY god’.
    But then it becomes a completely different ball game, isn't it?

  • @berrywin
    @berrywin 19 дней назад +10

    Mark, you are not a sceptic. If you think that then you are delusional.And this video shows you are.

  • @jjpopnfresh6822
    @jjpopnfresh6822 19 дней назад +14

    I'm skeptical of Mark's claimed skepticism

  • @stuartsmith8155
    @stuartsmith8155 19 дней назад +12

    Is all a daddy issue. Its very comforting to believe that an all powerful entity will love you like your parents did. Its crazy, but comfortable.

    • @floristfindspeace
      @floristfindspeace 10 дней назад +2

      precisely one of the reasons why we have to remain patient, steadfast, and empathetic when helping believers deconstruct their beliefs

  • @fcbaker
    @fcbaker 19 дней назад +51

    "I'm a skeptical person"... I doubt that.

    • @logicalmuslim1590
      @logicalmuslim1590 19 дней назад

      Everyone is skeptical about something.
      Even theists.
      You reject the idea that anyone has been a messenger of the Creator.
      We don't.
      What makes your opinion right?

    • @christasimon9716
      @christasimon9716 19 дней назад +8

      @@logicalmuslim1590 Being unconvinced of someone else's claim isn't exactly an opinion. It's simply being unconvinced.
      So, show us some evidence that Odin really is the Allfather.

    • @logicalmuslim1590
      @logicalmuslim1590 19 дней назад

      @@christasimon9716 in my opinion being unconvinced is an opinion.
      I don't worship Odin.
      I worship the Creator of the universe and everything that is in it.
      Allahu akbar.

    • @christasimon9716
      @christasimon9716 19 дней назад +7

      @@logicalmuslim1590 So, you can't tell the difference between a state of being and having an opinion. Ok.

    • @Seticzech
      @Seticzech 19 дней назад +6

      @@logicalmuslim1590 "What makes your opinion right?" Evidence. Or more accurately lack of evidence.

  • @Devious_Dave
    @Devious_Dave 19 дней назад +8

    Believers don't / won't / mustn't apply the same level of scrutiny to their own beliefs as they do to others. There's better evidence for Sathya Sai Baba performing miracles than for Jesus but Christians don't / won't / mustn't allow that thought.

  • @imetr8r
    @imetr8r 16 дней назад +4

    Early Christians wanted to worship Jesus but were unable to do so in a "Single God" religion. This desperation led to the "Theory Of The Holy Trinity". Tertullian (155-200 CE) was the first to explicitly define the Holy Trinity as the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. So until the third century, Jesus was just a prophet and not divine. It was this knowledge that tipped me over the edge from Christian to Atheist. BTW, Mormons are desperate to worship Joseph Smith. I predict that one of their "apostles" will eventually have a "revelation" that will devise a theory allowing them to worship a divine Joseph Smith much as Jesus is worshiped as divine.

  • @Boneworm852
    @Boneworm852 19 дней назад +19

    I'm at 4:36 and if this guy says "the Kalam" I'm going to eat my phone.
    Edit: my phone survives...for now

    • @JJ-qo7th
      @JJ-qo7th 19 дней назад +5

      And they can never answer the damned question, "Why does the universe need to be created out of nothing? Why can't the matter and energy of our universe have always been here?"

    • @mattjindrak
      @mattjindrak 19 дней назад +2

      ​@JJ-qo7th cause you need a BEING and that being is OBVIOUSLY MYYYYYY god

    • @JJ-qo7th
      @JJ-qo7th 19 дней назад +6

      ​@@mattjindrak "Creation needs a creator!" Reality doesn't need a realtor.

    • @AvaEFF
      @AvaEFF 15 дней назад +3

      I wouldn’t recommend eating a phone. It would affect your body on the *cellular* level.
      I’m so sorry ☠️

    • @Boneworm852
      @Boneworm852 15 дней назад +1

      @@JJ-qo7th that almost made coffee come out of my nose lmao

  • @Sean-oy8xm
    @Sean-oy8xm 11 дней назад +6

    “I start with the idea that there is a God…”
    That was his first mistake.

  • @marct9942
    @marct9942 19 дней назад +12

    As per every single delusional apologist, their only evidence for god is; "I believe therefore you must believe"

    • @bobby9192
      @bobby9192 13 дней назад

      Or god is real because atheist can’t prove him as false

    • @marct9942
      @marct9942 13 дней назад +1

      @@bobby9192 Just like people cannot prove I cannot fly

  • @alexissmith5589
    @alexissmith5589 19 дней назад +40

    Humans ARE animals. Life can only be one of 4 things; Animal, Plant, Fungus or Unicellular.

    • @tonyfendex2558
      @tonyfendex2558 19 дней назад +8

      THANK YOU!!!!!!

    • @DrinkWater713
      @DrinkWater713 16 дней назад

      False. It can be Protista as well (stuff like algae)

    • @littlefurrow2437
      @littlefurrow2437 15 дней назад +4

      ​@@DrinkWater713 not plant?

    • @fettbub92
      @fettbub92 12 дней назад

      Yes and no. I could reduce this to life is only unicellular and multicellular. I agree that we are animals, but careful with throwing out these categories as set in stone. Science doesn't quite work that way.

  • @frankanderson5012
    @frankanderson5012 19 дней назад +9

    They let him off way too much. ‘I’m a sceptic, I was an atheist, I want to know the truth’. Clearly none of these was true. They then gave him more by saying Jesus existed, which I would question. At best it’s on the same level of Robin Hood or King Arthur - stories of stories told by unknown individuals about a character, long after they supposedly existed and may not have even been called that.
    The whole crucifixion story doesn’t follow what we know about what the Romans did typically. I felt Forrest did try pick him up on these by questioning that he happened to believe in Christianity. Instead of letting him think he was a rational, reasonable person in believing what he believed that Jesus existed and therefore the bible, they questioned how he became an atheist and if a sceptic, he therefore thoroughly looked at all the other belief systems, new where the Abraham religion came from and the history of the bible.

    • @Insertia_Nameia
      @Insertia_Nameia 6 дней назад

      This is so common. They'll pretend to be the other side. Like you see racists, phones of all kinds, amd mysogonists all the time. Like it's super popular for incels to pretend to be girls (there is a lady, I forget her name off hand, that studies incels and the like that have admitted to this and they've been found out pretty often for it.) They feel it gives their bs more authority or they use it to try and discredit tbe other side and to brainwash others I to agreeing with their side.

  • @Gwaithmir
    @Gwaithmir 19 дней назад +5

    Jesus' resurrection? Interestingly, no writer or historian contemporary to Jesus had anything to say about this alleged event.

  • @blacksilus7419
    @blacksilus7419 19 дней назад +8

    I don’t know why theists always bring up lack of evidence for love. Love is not a tangible thing. Love is a description people give for a set of feelings. You can’t really show evidence for happiness or sadness, they are just descriptive terms. If god is just a feeling then sure you can have faith in that, but if you believe a god actually exists then you should require evidence.

    • @JakeFowler-q9s
      @JakeFowler-q9s 19 дней назад +2

      While I do agree with you, I feel it's relevant to point out that love and subsequently all emotions are tangible things in the sense of neurochemistry, and as such evidence for them can be provided. Example: serotonin, at least I believe that is the one, is commonly known as the love chemical and can be artificially induced with the ingestion of chocolate.

    • @matissimoj1190
      @matissimoj1190 6 дней назад

      I imagine all the love potions being just a molten chocolate

  • @dannywebb2987
    @dannywebb2987 19 дней назад +24

    Blood it's fucking blood that's in your heart no spirits no soul no fucking God your heart is a blood pump that's it

    • @KitPhuket-ix1en
      @KitPhuket-ix1en 19 дней назад +4

      Some people have cholesterol

    • @tonyclements1147
      @tonyclements1147 19 дней назад +1

      Cholesterol is God’s way of saying “behave” or I’ll hurt you, don’t make me hurt you.” 😁

    • @ajharris2690
      @ajharris2690 15 дней назад +1

      @@tonyclements1147 ahh yes but which one

    • @matissimoj1190
      @matissimoj1190 6 дней назад

      The god of heart attacks

    • @TheSkyGuy77
      @TheSkyGuy77 4 дня назад

      ​@@tonyclements1147
      god's a masochist then..

  • @MicheleGardini
    @MicheleGardini 19 дней назад +5

    And here we are with another self-claimed "ex-atheist" defining atheism in apologetic terms. So predictable.

  • @christasimon9716
    @christasimon9716 19 дней назад +11

    I _believe_ [I expect] that the sun will rise in the east tomorrow morning.
    That is NOT a religious conviction.
    3:47 "Uh-oh, they defeated my attempted wordplay. Now I have to quickly change tack and take the conversation somewhere else. Oh! I know - I used to be an atheist like you..."

    • @NocnaDusza
      @NocnaDusza 19 дней назад +1

      My answer to theist saying "I used to be atheist like you" is "I don't care if you was atheist. I care if you where actually a skeptic".
      I met plenty of atheists that were atheists for "wrong" reasons...

  • @conors4430
    @conors4430 19 дней назад +4

    It’s not faith that somebody loves me, because firstly I know that they exist, I can prove that they exist, their actions actually have a tangible thing that I can see and measure, and so can others. And I have repeated evidential consistency to base my opinion, on that what I feel is love. God can’t even meet the very first Point, let alone the rest.

  • @blumoon131
    @blumoon131 19 дней назад +4

    Really telling how the biggest comments here praising Jesus and claiming god did miracles are fucking bots.

  • @michaelrittel1441
    @michaelrittel1441 16 дней назад +4

    Anybody who claims to be a skeptic and has a religion is NOT a skeptic

  • @KGP221
    @KGP221 19 дней назад +5

    Forget what every version of every bible claims Jesus said. Since we have zero evidence in the way of documents, document fragments, or words on any page written from the biblical character Jesus' own hand, we don't know what he believed or what knowledge he had if he was a real person.

    • @haydenwalton2766
      @haydenwalton2766 19 дней назад

      the jesus is myth. christianity was a j*wish mystery c*lt

  • @BilliamJoyBoy
    @BilliamJoyBoy 17 дней назад +3

    When you call yourself a skeptic person in a discussion it’s kinda a red flag

  • @Tonberry2k
    @Tonberry2k 19 дней назад +4

    For me, Judas’s betrayal doesn’t seem like something that should get the benefit of the doubt.
    It’s required for him to betray Jesus for the story arc to be completed. It’s more of a plot point that needs to be fulfilled than evidence that the story is true.
    It’s a storytelling technique.

    • @Insertia_Nameia
      @Insertia_Nameia 6 дней назад

      Exactly. He was an antagonist used to drive the story forward.

  • @AvaEFF
    @AvaEFF 15 дней назад +3

    I hate arguments like this because they are trying to sneak in the assertion that believing your spouse loves you is even remotely close to believing god is real. These two things are in no way, shape, or form analogous. I can SEE my souse. I can TOUCH my souse. I can HEAR my spouse. And I can. Weigh the actions that I can directly observe him taking to determine whether or not he is showing me love. Try to do the same with God. You can’t.

  • @The_Buff_Guy
    @The_Buff_Guy 19 дней назад +26

    You can’t call yourself a skeptic AND a religious person. That’s nonsense for the same reason that it’s nonsense to claim you’re simultaneously a fish and a human.

    • @EBDavis111
      @EBDavis111 19 дней назад +5

      No, the second claim is technically correct. Unlike skeptic and faithful, human and fish are not exclusive.

    • @stephenolan5539
      @stephenolan5539 19 дней назад

      @@The_Buff_Guy
      Are a mammal?

    • @joshsheridan9511
      @joshsheridan9511 19 дней назад +1

      ​@@stephenolan5539fish aren't mammals, but humans are.
      Don't know if that helps any?

    • @stephenolan5539
      @stephenolan5539 19 дней назад

      @@joshsheridan9511
      Why are humans, mammals?
      Are you a vertebrate?

    • @EBDavis111
      @EBDavis111 19 дней назад +3

      @@joshsheridan9511 Not all fish are mammals, all mammals are fish, having descended from other fish. It's polyphylletic.

  • @dawnbreaker2912
    @dawnbreaker2912 24 дня назад +140

    Mark was never a skeptic, and probably never an atheist.

    • @dogwalker666
      @dogwalker666 20 дней назад +27

      He doesn't know what Athiest means.

    • @diogeneslamp8004
      @diogeneslamp8004 20 дней назад +21

      @@dogwalker666
      Or skeptic, of course.

    • @dogwalker666
      @dogwalker666 20 дней назад +8

      @@diogeneslamp8004 indeed.

    • @ARoll925
      @ARoll925 20 дней назад +12

      Totally agree, he very clearly demonstrates he was lying when he said that, it's nonsense

    • @Leith_Crowther
      @Leith_Crowther 20 дней назад +7

      Why is it that hard to believe? Sometimes psychological maladies only manifest later in life.

  • @LGpi314
    @LGpi314 16 дней назад +2

    What is this "has to be"? WHY?!?!? WHY!?!?! There is nothing "has to be"
    This caller starts with the wrong assumption and then claims his started with science. I highly doubt he understands what science is and how it works. PERIOD.

  • @haydenwalton2766
    @haydenwalton2766 19 дней назад +3

    12:45 "when i look at all those historical facts... (stories about the figure jesus)"
    no, these aren't even close to historical facts.
    why does someone like jmike say these things !!??

  • @madddog7
    @madddog7 19 дней назад +4

    Mark-NY is great at dancing the Sidestep

  • @isaacpiper510
    @isaacpiper510 14 дней назад +2

    This is my first vid that I’ve watched with jmike and he has immediately become a favorite for me

  • @joshsheridan9511
    @joshsheridan9511 20 дней назад +72

    Mark "i was an atheist " yet he doesn't know what atheism is. 😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Arkloyd
      @Arkloyd 20 дней назад +7

      mark was never a *true atheist.*

    • @canderson5098
      @canderson5098 20 дней назад +4

      He's been shunned and disfellowshipped.

    • @David34981
      @David34981 20 дней назад +10

      ​@@Arkloyd Perhaps not, but let's not engage in that (potentially fallacious) line of reasoning too quickly. Perhaps he actually was an atheist, but just for bad reasons. Being an atheist means ALMOST nothing, after all. It's just the description of not accepting a claim; the reasons for that can vary wildly and some are better than others. If you're properly skeptical, you're probably an atheist because there is no good evidence for the existence of a god, and that's the best way of looking at all this.

    • @Wilhelm-100TheTechnoAdmiral
      @Wilhelm-100TheTechnoAdmiral 20 дней назад +4

      Mark was an inner circle atheist

    • @Finckelstein
      @Finckelstein 20 дней назад +5

      @@Arkloyd "mark was never a true atheist."
      Strike the "true" there. There are no "true" atheists. You either believe in a god or you don't. This is a true dichotomy. No qualifiers needed.

  • @aidenisduranarzuaga4030
    @aidenisduranarzuaga4030 18 дней назад +2

    Everytime they say they’re skeptical they come up with the most biased and circular argument ever.

  • @sparki9085
    @sparki9085 20 дней назад +41

    "I'm a skeptical person, I start with the idea there is a god"
    *What*

    • @borthwrenblanston6632
      @borthwrenblanston6632 19 дней назад

      It's far more plausible that God exists than not; otherwise a mud puddle DID IT. Without God, one would have to believe something like this: A rock came from a bang, got wet and produced LIFE from SOUP. There is no POSSIBLE BRIDGE to get from a ROCK to YOU. The cult of Atheism is just that easy to kill. There's no possibility that a MINDLESS, UNGUIDED wet rock produced the human being, 9 million DIFFERENT animals & 300,000 DIFFERENT plants over time from basically NOTHING.
      Try to learn what I'm teaching you before it's too late (when your temporary free will expires at your last gasp on earth and you go to an eternal hell - wishing you had never been born). YOU CAN’T AFFORD TO GET THIS WRONG. Because 100+ trillion yrs from the moment you enter hell, it won’t even be the start of eternity! For now, you and every facet of your asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism are hereby debunked (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, evolution, gain of complexity/gain of new information/new anatomy).

    • @honestlywhatever
      @honestlywhatever 19 дней назад +3

      me and Forrest had the same facial expression then lol

    • @AXKfUN9m
      @AXKfUN9m 19 дней назад +3

      I think he means he's skeptical of mainstream science, like heliocentrism, evolution, vaccines, round Earth, etc.

    • @honestlywhatever
      @honestlywhatever 19 дней назад +2

      @@AXKfUN9m Even with that being the case, a skeptical person wouldn't believe something without evidence. The reason why it's funny he says that is because his skepticism is selective. So he's not a skeptical person, he's skeptical sometimes.

  • @roguebotanist
    @roguebotanist 19 дней назад +2

    At the end Mark was back peddling with a barrage of claims with no evidence then tried to blame atheist for not providing evidence for his claims.

  • @dom11949
    @dom11949 19 дней назад +3

    holistic? does that mean it is full of holes?

  • @anthonythompson1680
    @anthonythompson1680 14 дней назад +1

    If I knew Jesus reserected I would be convinced of his divinity. I'm an atheist so I don't believe it happened but I was surprised that Forest said it wouldn't convince him.

  • @quotedotes
    @quotedotes 19 дней назад +35

    Complements the host ✅
    Talks about the previous caller ✅
    Calls themselves a skeptic unprompted ✅
    Yup, this is a certified dishonest caller

    • @haydenwalton2766
      @haydenwalton2766 19 дней назад

      not necessarily at all. but that is the MO of some of these dishonest callers. but, I think that mark is prob one of these

    • @alamunez
      @alamunez 16 дней назад

      *compliments

  • @loodlebop
    @loodlebop 19 дней назад +2

    "I start with the idea that there is a god" aaaand you fail. Doubtful they were ever atheist

  • @falsenarrativecults6235
    @falsenarrativecults6235 20 дней назад +7

    Who is the laziest “I used to be an atheist” in the world? Mark from NY!

  • @sugartoothYT
    @sugartoothYT 19 дней назад +1

    7:25 - 7:37
    You understood? You sure about that? Then why on earth did you use that fallacious reasoning TWICE already? Or can you promise you will NEVER use it again because now you supposedly understand it's flawed? (I doubt that)

  • @cdogthehedgehog6923
    @cdogthehedgehog6923 18 дней назад +3

    Oh hi mark

    • @Nocturnalux
      @Nocturnalux 16 дней назад +1

      YOU’RE TEARING ME APART!

  • @user-yb8yl6kg9x
    @user-yb8yl6kg9x 16 дней назад +1

    The one thing that boils my blood more than anything is someone claiming to be something they are 100% not. Are you delusional or a liar? Either way I’m not interested

  • @WRG2024-h7k
    @WRG2024-h7k 19 дней назад +4

    For Christian a God is merely a search for consolation, a safety net, a refused . They believe in a God not because there is a God, but because they feel vulnerable without that belief. Even if there were no God they would invent one. That believed stems from their own weakness. It is a projection, God only exist in their minds.

  • @Paul-p1p6m
    @Paul-p1p6m 12 дней назад +1

    The best solution and the most logical is to say/write and think, there are or is no god(s) and never were any.

  • @nigeltrigger4499
    @nigeltrigger4499 19 дней назад +5

    If you are religious, then answer this simple question:
    Why does God exist?

    • @borthwrenblanston6632
      @borthwrenblanston6632 19 дней назад

      You're asking a FINITE mind a FINITE question that only an INFINITE mind can answer.
      The religious cult of atheism is INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS. That's because atheism RUNS from "reality." I would add that as an atheist, you're bankrupt of RATIONAL/POSSIBLE causes for life, intelligence, consciousness, morality and ALL the co-existent bodily systems (circulatory, respiratory, reproductive, pulmonic, digestive, skeletal, muscular, nervous, body (skin), etc., etc.) intertwined in co-dependent order in the human body. Atheism has no RATIONAL/POSSIBLE, step by step atheist explanation for reality. That’s because there isn’t one. THINK ABOUT what you’re getting into w/ the cult of atheism. GET OUT NOW. I’ll help you find truth. Atheism has none.
      These 2 hosts are fools (atheists) and their less-than-worthless, asinine, lost & clueless religious cult of atheism is INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS. No atheist has a RATIONAL/POSSIBLE, step-by-step atheist explanation for reality. That's because there isn't one. THESE GUYS ADMIT THAT THEY HAVE NO ANSWERS!!!
      The fact remains that along w/ DYING/FINITE space/matter/energy, TIME had a cause. The logical conclusion (when we follow the evidence) is that such a cause is TIMELESS. And if you're TIMELESS, do you have a beginning or end? No. We call that cause "OUR INFINITE, SUPERNATURAL GOD," who by definition is TIMELESS, CHANGELESS, BEGINNINGLESS, SPACELESS, IMMATERIAL and ENORMOUSLY POWERFUL.
      These topics are the most important topics known; thus, EVERYONE should have a vast understanding of the facts that frame the truth of these topics and not be so content to gulp down the false propaganda of channels such as this one. THESE GUYS ADMIT THAT THEY HAVE NO ANSWERS!!!
      It's far more plausible that God exists than not; otherwise a mud puddle DID IT. Without God, one would have to believe something like this: A rock came from a bang, got wet and produced LIFE from SOUP. There is no POSSIBLE BRIDGE to get from a ROCK to YOU. The cult of Atheism is just that easy to kill. There's no possibility that a MINDLESS, UNGUIDED wet rock produced the human being, 9 million DIFFERENT animals & 300,000 DIFFERENT plants over time from basically NOTHING.
      Try to learn what I'm teaching you before it's too late (when your temporary free will expires at your last gasp on earth and you go to an eternal hell - wishing you had never been born). YOU CAN’T AFFORD TO GET THIS WRONG. Because 100+ trillion yrs from the moment you enter hell, it won’t even be the start of eternity! For now, you and every facet of your asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism are hereby debunked (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, evolution, gain of complexity/gain of new information/new anatomy).
      Yeah, now you see why I've totally dominated this entire channel for 12 yrs.

    • @quentind1924
      @quentind1924 19 дней назад +2

      @@borthwrenblanston6632 If you need 20 lines to answer a two lines question, then either you are a cult leader or you have no idea but will try to hide it by making the answer as long as possible

    • @Mkeusquealbby
      @Mkeusquealbby 16 дней назад

      And why did god, after eons of existing in perfection and sinlessness, decide to create a world and people that would inevitably bring evil and sin into existence?

  • @NocnaDusza
    @NocnaDusza 19 дней назад +1

    I really wish theist would stop misuse term "skeptical"... Like this dude "I am skeptical person (...) So I start with the idea that this god exists". That's in direct opposition to skepticism. Skeptic would say "I am presented with an idea that this god exists, so lets look for evidence to find out"...

  • @billhinsperger8120
    @billhinsperger8120 20 дней назад +54

    Starting with a belief first then working backwards to try and make everything fit is a great way to always be wrong

    • @normkeller2405
      @normkeller2405 20 дней назад

      Not wrong, but unjustified?

    • @EdithBromfeld
      @EdithBromfeld 19 дней назад

      Lying and strawmanning is lazy. The evidence is not on the atheists side.

    • @billhinsperger8120
      @billhinsperger8120 19 дней назад +3

      @@normkeller2405 irrational to start with a belief

    • @SurgiusMaximus
      @SurgiusMaximus 19 дней назад +5

      @@billhinsperger8120 that's literally the Presup position. Let's assume god and philosophize the justification

    • @billhinsperger8120
      @billhinsperger8120 19 дней назад +3

      @@SurgiusMaximus exactly wat I said in my original statement

  • @Ben-no4lz
    @Ben-no4lz 17 дней назад +1

    Pretty sure you have to demonstrate Possibility before Probability can even be calculated.

  • @BrokeTheSeal
    @BrokeTheSeal 19 дней назад +5

    This guy sounds exactly like Baked Alaska, a repeat caller with crap takes. He’s also on Discord a lot. Might not be him but his tone and style sound identical.

    • @haydenwalton2766
      @haydenwalton2766 19 дней назад +1

      there are a lot out there like mark. generally christian orthodox. often presupers

  • @dalecs47
    @dalecs47 18 дней назад +1

    Why religious people insist on us believing in their god? When we agree to believe, we are handing to them power over us, power over our lives. They can now tell us what to believe, what to do, who we must hate, who we must not love and most important, they require us to give them some of our hard earned money. Power and money is all that religion is really about.

  • @petyrkowalski9887
    @petyrkowalski9887 20 дней назад +33

    Theists always do this - they conflate justified confidence with blind faith. They do it on purpose and its dishonest of them.

    • @danielkeizer4174
      @danielkeizer4174 20 дней назад +5

      No way. A dishonest theist. That never happens....

    • @wardraven8755
      @wardraven8755 19 дней назад +7

      Well god is dishonest so the forbidden fruit doesn’t fall far from the forbidden tree

    • @borthwrenblanston6632
      @borthwrenblanston6632 19 дней назад

      Faith? Wrong. Let me educate you: All faith is not blind faith. Faith itself carries with it the ideas of belief, trust, commitment and is therefore only as robust as the evidence for it. Faith in Jesus is based on Biblical truths, science and God-given common sense. “Blind faith” is faith w/ no evidence. But Christianity is “faith” in FACT, REASON & LOGIC that are based on a preponderance of the evidence, whether it be scientific, theological, historical, archaeological, sound rational logic on given facts - coupled w/ personal intimate and profound experience w/ G0D and spiritual research. You need to learn the difference. Are you this stupid? You think this is a game of rules where sides score points? There's no such thing as a "burden of proof." You either have a good argument or you don't. That said, there's absolutely no part of nature that can produce the human being (e.g. star dust, moist rocks, mud puddles, hot rocks, moon dirt, warm ponds, gravity, oceans, primordial soup, nothing), so don't insinuate otherwise.
      It's far more plausible that God exists than not; otherwise a mud puddle DID IT. Without God, one would have to believe something like this: A rock came from a bang, got wet and produced LIFE from SOUP. There is no POSSIBLE BRIDGE to get from a ROCK to YOU. The cult of Atheism is just that easy to kill. There's no possibility that a MINDLESS, UNGUIDED wet rock produced the human being, 9 million DIFFERENT animals & 300,000 DIFFERENT plants over time from basically NOTHING.
      Try to learn what I'm teaching you before it's too late (when your temporary free will expires at your last gasp on earth and you go to an eternal hell - wishing you had never been born). YOU CAN’T AFFORD TO GET THIS WRONG. Because 100+ trillion yrs from the moment you enter hell, it won’t even be the start of eternity! For now, you and every facet of your asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism are hereby debunked (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, evolution, gain of complexity/gain of new information/new anatomy).

  • @Darkwun_DQ4
    @Darkwun_DQ4 15 дней назад +1

    I love that J Mike is actually Jesus and is just trolling us atheists so he doesn't have to die again

  • @seannelson3613
    @seannelson3613 12 дней назад +1

    I'm starting to think that Mark isn't actually interested in the truth.

  • @Mr_Porter
    @Mr_Porter 25 дней назад +28

    Dishonesty at it's finest.

  • @Glasschin2.0
    @Glasschin2.0 19 дней назад +1

    Doesn’t know what atheism is and what sceptical means.

  • @justinfowler2857
    @justinfowler2857 19 дней назад +4

    Mark was an athiest to every religion that wasn't the one he was taught from birth.

  • @bortiz11
    @bortiz11 6 дней назад +1

    I loved the cognitive dissonance when confronted with Sati Saibaba's story and the belief parameters... that stutter at about 21 minutes was a physical manifestation of a short circuit in this caller's base belief system...

    • @user-u9g8m
      @user-u9g8m День назад

      Holy shit he was stuttering like crazy at that point. to... to... to... it... it... it...

  • @ARoll925
    @ARoll925 20 дней назад +45

    He demonstrates in this call that he was never a skeptic or an atheist, he likes to think he is skeptical but is obviously not

    • @jimchernishenko798
      @jimchernishenko798 19 дней назад +6

      Skeptic my arse. He says he is a skeptical person but starts with the idea that there is a God. Ooops, back to the drawing board.

    • @Aleiza_49
      @Aleiza_49 19 дней назад

      They're never actually skeptics, just fishing for BS contrary to reality. None of these 'skeptics' who fall for the lie of religion have the thought processes of actual skepticism. If they did, any religion would be exempt from being possibly true with available evidence.

    • @Iceheartedbastard7
      @Iceheartedbastard7 14 дней назад

      @@jimchernishenko798I think they lie about this stuff on purpose to make themselves seem more credible

  • @bobbabai
    @bobbabai 19 дней назад +1

    I like JMike's reasoning, but his language often gets debatey-technical, using too many words (and sometimes he even makes up kind-of-technical adjectives which throws me off), and he immediately loses my interest. I sometimes can actually hear the caller get quiet and lose interest because he hasn't followed what JMike said. I get very frustrated.
    Forrest can do this too but he does it way less. And Forrest's voice cuts through the half-duplex muck a lot better whereas JMike tends to get lost because of his quieter, more low-key tone of voice.
    I like you, JMike. You just need to get better.

    • @borthwrenblanston6632
      @borthwrenblanston6632 19 дней назад

      These 2 hosts are fools (atheists) and their less-than-worthless, asinine, lost & clueless religious cult of atheism is INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS. No atheist has a RATIONAL/POSSIBLE, step-by-step atheist explanation for reality. That's because there isn't one. THESE GUYS ADMIT THAT THEY HAVE NO ANSWERS!!!
      The fact remains that along w/ DYING/FINITE space/matter/energy, TIME had a cause. The logical conclusion (when we follow the evidence) is that such a cause is TIMELESS. And if you're TIMELESS, do you have a beginning or end? No. We call that cause "OUR INFINITE, SUPERNATURAL GOD," who by definition is TIMELESS, CHANGELESS, BEGINNINGLESS, SPACELESS, IMMATERIAL and ENORMOUSLY POWERFUL.
      These topics are the most important topics known; thus, EVERYONE should have a vast understanding of the facts that frame the truth of these topics and not be so content to gulp down the false propaganda of channels such as this one. THESE GUYS ADMIT THAT THEY HAVE NO ANSWERS!!!
      It's far more plausible that God exists than not; otherwise a mud puddle DID IT. Without God, one would have to believe something like this: A rock came from a bang, got wet and produced LIFE from SOUP. There is no POSSIBLE BRIDGE to get from a ROCK to YOU. The cult of Atheism is just that easy to kill. There's no possibility that a MINDLESS, UNGUIDED wet rock produced the human being, 9 million DIFFERENT animals & 300,000 DIFFERENT plants over time from basically NOTHING.
      Try to learn what I'm teaching you before it's too late (when your temporary free will expires at your last gasp on earth and you go to an eternal hell - wishing you had never been born). YOU CAN’T AFFORD TO GET THIS WRONG. Because 100+ trillion yrs from the moment you enter hell, it won’t even be the start of eternity! For now, you and every facet of your asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism are hereby debunked (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, evolution, gain of complexity/gain of new information/new anatomy).
      Yeah, now you see why I've totally dominated this entire channel for 12 yrs.

    • @alamunez
      @alamunez 16 дней назад +1

      Agreed, JMike’s technical jargon is almost always immediately increasing the disconnect between caller and hosts. I get that he’s very interested in philosphy and argumentation, but he’s not closing the gap between his thoughts and what the callers (and a large part of the audience) are able to understand.

  • @callac
    @callac 19 дней назад +4

    'I use to be an atheist ''... why christians think that this quote make their arguments better? Is like a grown man saying ''I started to believe in fairies again''.

    • @haydenwalton2766
      @haydenwalton2766 19 дней назад +1

      yeah, you'd think that if someone said 'i used to be an a-theist' it'd help to know what one is. particularly before calling in to speak to jmike

  • @Mxxx-ii9bu
    @Mxxx-ii9bu 2 дня назад

    "But guys...I'm a sceptic!"
    You keep using this word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

  • @robertschriek1353
    @robertschriek1353 20 дней назад +10

    Marks reasoning is what in the corporate world we would call retrofitting.

  • @lilcaps
    @lilcaps 4 дня назад

    This is a helpful little guide
    Belief:
    To perceive something to be true
    faith:
    Belief without strong evidence
    Knowledge:
    Belief with strong evidence
    Theist: a person who believes in god(s)
    Atheist: a person who does not believe in god(s)
    Nostic:
    a person who claims to have knowledge
    Agnostic:
    a person who does not claim knowledge
    Evidence:
    data points that can be used to determine truth
    Truth:
    That which comports with reality
    If you have any objections to these definitions then please, reply

  • @amtlpaul
    @amtlpaul 19 дней назад +5

    Still no valid/sound argument for a God existing.

    • @EdGein542
      @EdGein542 19 дней назад

      Yes there is dum dum. The universe came from somewhere…some believe it was created by energy….where did that energy come from? Believing matter created itself out of non matter spontaneously requires way more faith than a creator. Atheists are dumb.

    • @amtlpaul
      @amtlpaul 19 дней назад +4

      ​@@EdGein542That's a textbook argument from ignorance fallacy. So, not a sound argument. Try again.

    • @EdGein542
      @EdGein542 19 дней назад

      @@amtlpaul Look at you with all of the “RUclips debate words”. You cannot explain how a universe created itself from absolutely nothing suddenly. Desperation

    • @EBDavis111
      @EBDavis111 19 дней назад +5

      @@EdGein542 Where did God come from. If everything else needs to come from something, so does God.

    • @quentind1924
      @quentind1924 19 дней назад +5

      @@EdGein542 You have two options. Either you explain why god had to exist and that it was impossible for no god to exist, or you accept that atheists don't have to explain why the universe exists and you stop asking us that. Which option do you choose ?

  • @saicharand7765
    @saicharand7765 День назад

    I find it hard to believe Mark was ever an atheist, agnostic or skeptic...

  • @tonydarcy1606
    @tonydarcy1606 19 дней назад +7

    The guy obviously didn't know about Sai Baba but pretended that he had heard of him. Well Sai Baba's "miracles" are far better attested to by now living people than anything in the Bible. These Christians really must think that we're all suckers ?

  • @cartossin
    @cartossin День назад

    Love you guys. One nitpick: the plural of criterion is criteria, not criterions.

  • @craigbradford4850
    @craigbradford4850 19 дней назад +5

    “I looked at the evidence” and presents NO evidence.
    Whenever a theist say they have evidence is always the weakest evidence OR it’s what atheism doesn’t do.

    • @Eden_jasper
      @Eden_jasper 19 дней назад

      THIS! I found this sooo frustrating about the caller! Claims to judge each person based on the evidence; but "bible am true because Jesus resurrected" ISN'T EVIDENCE!!!! But the caller WANTS to be a Christian and wouldn't admit it.

    • @logicalmuslim1590
      @logicalmuslim1590 19 дней назад

      So evidence is any information or things offered in support of a proposition.
      But one cannot judge evidence without applying criteria.
      What is your criteria?
      What would evidence of a Creator look like?

    • @craigbradford4850
      @craigbradford4850 19 дней назад

      @@logicalmuslim1590 Do you think the evidence that guy presented was convincing for believing in Jesus?

    • @logicalmuslim1590
      @logicalmuslim1590 19 дней назад

      @@craigbradford4850 For believing what about Jesus? That he existed? That he is God? That he did miracles?
      Muslims believe that Jesus peace be upon him was God's messenger, but not God.

    • @craigbradford4850
      @craigbradford4850 19 дней назад

      @@logicalmuslim1590 What’s your criteria for believing he didn’t perform miracles?

  • @77gravity
    @77gravity 8 дней назад

    I believe my wife loves me. A small amount of faith may be involved in that, but the main reason is the evidence (personal experience) that I have. I may not be able to demonstrate that to another person, but I could make a fair case - and for those people who know us both, it would probably be obvious that we DO love each other (Note: I am 100% certain I love her).

  • @Childfree334
    @Childfree334 19 дней назад +14

    Everybody add on to this list of "Theist evidence in a nutshell 🥜:
    1. I feel it
    2. Because I have faith
    3. I just know it
    4. MY prayers were answered
    5. I am so special that God chose ME to communicate with in private
    6. Because the Bible says so

    • @borthwrenblanston6632
      @borthwrenblanston6632 19 дней назад

      It's far more plausible that God exists than not; otherwise a mud puddle DID IT. Without God, one would have to believe something like this: A rock came from a bang, got wet and produced LIFE from SOUP. There is no POSSIBLE BRIDGE to get from a ROCK to YOU. The cult of Atheism is just that easy to kill. There's no possibility that a MINDLESS, UNGUIDED wet rock produced the human being, 9 million DIFFERENT animals & 300,000 DIFFERENT plants over time from basically NOTHING.
      Faith? Wrong. Let me educate you: All faith is not blind faith. Faith itself carries with it the ideas of belief, trust, commitment and is therefore only as robust as the evidence for it. Faith in Jesus is based on Biblical truths, science and God-given common sense. “Blind faith” is faith w/ no evidence. But Christianity is “faith” in FACT, REASON & LOGIC that are based on a preponderance of the evidence, whether it be scientific, theological, historical, archaeological, sound rational logic on given facts - coupled w/ personal intimate and profound experience w/ G0D and spiritual research. You need to learn the difference. Are you this stupid? You think this is a game of rules where sides score points? There's no such thing as a "burden of proof." You either have a good argument or you don't. That said, there's absolutely no part of nature that can produce the human being (e.g. star dust, moist rocks, mud puddles, hot rocks, moon dirt, warm ponds, gravity, oceans, primordial soup, nothing), so don't insinuate otherwise.
      Try to learn what I'm teaching you before it's too late (when your temporary free will expires at your last gasp on earth and you go to an eternal hell - wishing you had never been born). YOU CAN’T AFFORD TO GET THIS WRONG. Because 100+ trillion yrs from the moment you enter hell, it won’t even be the start of eternity! For now, you and every facet of your asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism are hereby debunked (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, evolution, gain of complexity/gain of new information/new anatomy).

    • @robertcarsten4050
      @robertcarsten4050 19 дней назад +2

      I mean add "it's more likely god did exists"
      And then never provide a methodology for determining that likelihood

    • @elitezafficobra2288
      @elitezafficobra2288 19 дней назад

      NO.
      It’s because the universe cannot exist without a creator. NOTHING cannot create SOMETHING.
      It’s scientifically, logically, theoretically, philosophically, mathematically impossible.

    • @AXKfUN9m
      @AXKfUN9m 19 дней назад +2

      @@elitezafficobra2288 From what did your god create everything?

    • @robertcarsten4050
      @robertcarsten4050 19 дней назад +3

      @@elitezafficobra2288 yes we see that you can just assert your idea must be true because you said it...... It would be nice if you were able to support the claim at all.

  • @donharris1923
    @donharris1923 19 дней назад +2

    Sorry but this guy is just rattling off every christian apologetic he can toss at the wall in a frantic effort to prop up his belief.
    He literally said earlier 'I start with the assumption that god is real and go from there' which is an open admission that he is NOT a skeptic but a 'true believer' desperate to manufacture anything that he imagines will convince others so that he can feel justified in his beliefs.
    He not only does not have a shred of evidence it is clear has no concept what that means as he tries to throw out scripture while pretending that a magical event [the resurrection myth] set forth in his preferred book of magical mythology is somehow more believable that all the other exactly the same myths except that they aren't the ones he likes.
    Sad and I feel pity for this 'I was once an atheist but then I bought into the christian BS' caller.

  • @patriceriksson7924
    @patriceriksson7924 25 дней назад +34

    He was nice. But dishonest. You two are great!

    • @Mr_Porter
      @Mr_Porter 25 дней назад +9

      Absolutely.

    • @qwadratix
      @qwadratix 19 дней назад

      @@patriceriksson7924 Dishonest is not nice. It's just a deception.

    • @69suger69
      @69suger69 19 дней назад

      Haha.. ​@qwadratix talk with your doctor about your problem/ letter combination you suffer from..

  • @EGOS42
    @EGOS42 4 дня назад

    Legend has it if you say, "I'm a skeptic" enough times it becomes true!

  • @VonPatzy
    @VonPatzy 20 дней назад +16

    By this logic they could dig up our society in 2k years and “prove” Luke Skywalker was real - lots of retellings match up of people talking about him around campfires for hundreds of years.
    You just have to believe in the force.

    • @stephenolan5539
      @stephenolan5539 20 дней назад

      A young lad named George was out tooling around in his car. He had his seatbelt on. He lost control of the car and wrapped it around a tree totally destroying it. BUT his seatbelt had given way and he was ejected from the car and survived. He said it felt like there was a force involved.
      Take a wild guess what his last name is.

    • @Seticzech
      @Seticzech 20 дней назад +2

      @@stephenolan5539 So? There were thousands of others who died in similar accidents.

    • @c.guydubois8270
      @c.guydubois8270 20 дней назад +2

      Farce?..

    • @briannelson27
      @briannelson27 19 дней назад +1

      Fun fact: Jedi is a real religion right now in the real world. and it is every bit as real a religion as christianity, taoism, or scientology.

    • @stephenolan5539
      @stephenolan5539 19 дней назад

      @Seticzech
      He didn't die.
      And you have heard of him.
      And if anyone believed that Luke Skywalker was real they would use this story.

  • @TheLizardOfOz
    @TheLizardOfOz 8 дней назад

    This guy is the poster child for cognitive dissonance. He believes he's arguing objectively, & doesn't see where his preconceptions are colouring his conclusions.

  • @Seticzech
    @Seticzech 20 дней назад +14

    It doesn't matter how much probable something is. What matters is there is no evidence for existence of any god. God is just man made idea.

    • @borthwrenblanston6632
      @borthwrenblanston6632 19 дней назад

      Not even close. It's far more plausible that God exists than not; otherwise a mud puddle DID IT. Without God, one would have to believe something like this: A rock came from a bang, got wet and produced LIFE from SOUP. There is no POSSIBLE BRIDGE to get from a ROCK to YOU. The cult of Atheism is just that easy to kill. There's no possibility that a MINDLESS, UNGUIDED wet rock produced the human being, 9 million DIFFERENT animals & 300,000 DIFFERENT plants over time from basically NOTHING.
      Faith? Wrong. Let me educate you: All faith is not blind faith. Faith itself carries with it the ideas of belief, trust, commitment and is therefore only as robust as the evidence for it. Faith in Jesus is based on Biblical truths, science and God-given common sense. “Blind faith” is faith w/ no evidence. But Christianity is “faith” in FACT, REASON & LOGIC that are based on a preponderance of the evidence, whether it be scientific, theological, historical, archaeological, sound rational logic on given facts - coupled w/ personal intimate and profound experience w/ G0D and spiritual research. You need to learn the difference. Are you this stupid? You think this is a game of rules where sides score points? There's no such thing as a "burden of proof." You either have a good argument or you don't. That said, there's absolutely no part of nature that can produce the human being (e.g. star dust, moist rocks, mud puddles, hot rocks, moon dirt, warm ponds, gravity, oceans, primordial soup, nothing), so don't insinuate otherwise.
      Try to learn what I'm teaching you before it's too late (when your temporary free will expires at your last gasp on earth and you go to an eternal hell - wishing you had never been born). YOU CAN’T AFFORD TO GET THIS WRONG. Because 100+ trillion yrs from the moment you enter hell, it won’t even be the start of eternity! For now, you and every facet of your asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism are hereby debunked (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, evolution, gain of complexity/gain of new information/new anatomy).

    • @videos_iwonderwhy
      @videos_iwonderwhy 19 дней назад

      @@Seticzech Do you understand the difference between proof and evidence? Because there is evidence of God's existence and the argument is only about how good or bad it is.

    • @qwadratix
      @qwadratix 19 дней назад +2

      @@videos_iwonderwhy Some "evidence" is just so bad that it can be simply discarded.

    • @Seticzech
      @Seticzech 19 дней назад +3

      @@videos_iwonderwhy I do and no, there is no evidence about existence of any god. Delusions and ignorance are not evidence.

    • @videos_iwonderwhy
      @videos_iwonderwhy 19 дней назад

      @@Seticzech people assess evidence differently. And I respect the way you do. But I happen to be a design engineer and have met so many more (including bioengineers) who feel the same way as I do. We recognize design when we see it. To us, intent in design is amply evident in nature. For us it is very compelling evidence for a Designer. Proof is another standard, but evidence is strong.

  • @JonathanMoore-k1k
    @JonathanMoore-k1k 19 дней назад +88

    I was homeless, got into drugs, went into prisons, then i got to know Jesus, He changed my life.. Now i make 22k weekly. have a home, a wife, a lovely daughter... A child of God. HALLELUJAH

    • @ADAM-o2n8l
      @ADAM-o2n8l 19 дней назад +1

      How did you do it? Do explain please 😯
      My family have been into series of sufferings lately.

    • @JonathanMoore-k1k
      @JonathanMoore-k1k 19 дней назад

      It's Christina Ann Tucker doing she's changed my life. A BROKER- like her is what you need.

    • @JonathanMoore-k1k
      @JonathanMoore-k1k 19 дней назад

      After I raised up to 325k trading with her I bought a new House and a car here in the states 🇺🇸🇺🇸 also paid for my daughter's surgery (Joey). Glory to God.shalom.

    • @Mathew-q8g
      @Mathew-q8g 19 дней назад

      I do know Christina A. Tucker, I also have even become successful....

    • @Rosy_Olive
      @Rosy_Olive 19 дней назад

      Absolutely! I've heard stories of people who started with little to no knowledge but made it out victoriously thanks to Christina Ann Tucker.

  • @mmoreno7137
    @mmoreno7137 10 дней назад

    So at 20 minutes in Mark says atheists have a misunderstanding that theist are putting the cart before the horse. They believe theist start with the assumption and he gets cut off. But at 18 minutes or so in Mark stated that he starts with the assumption of God existing. So even though he was cut off I have trouble imagining what unfounded assumption he could have been planning to point out.

  • @kevinvanlaeken5912
    @kevinvanlaeken5912 20 дней назад +9

    I knew it was all downhill from, "I'm a skeptic. "

    • @normkeller2405
      @normkeller2405 19 дней назад +2

      I agree. Shouldn't one be highly skeptical of one's own belief that one is skeptical? I regard being a skeptical or being skeptical as a goal that I have to try to remain skeptical about achieving. Does that make sense?

    • @kevinvanlaeken5912
      @kevinvanlaeken5912 19 дней назад +1

      @normkeller2405 Sort of. Evaluating evidence, as free from bias as possible, is in contrast to an a priori assumption that one's god is real

  • @XarXXon
    @XarXXon 20 дней назад +6

    Well if you would look at philosophy, you'd recognise a argument from ignorance.

  • @mmoreno7137
    @mmoreno7137 10 дней назад

    At 27ish minutes in. If the writers cannot remember the most important date in the history of the world (From their point of view) that happened in their lifetimes then how can you believe that they correctly recorded the lesser events?

  • @Soylent1981
    @Soylent1981 20 дней назад +8

    JMike is savage in his refutation.

  • @Seticzech-cz
    @Seticzech-cz 19 дней назад

    *@wwlib5390* Stop luring people into your twisted cult!

  • @duncanbryson1167
    @duncanbryson1167 20 дней назад +12

    NO NO NO!!!!! 🙄 NOT faith but trust. There is a different mindset between secular and religious usage of words.
    What's inside someone's heart is blood.

    • @ziploc2000
      @ziploc2000 20 дней назад +4

      I blame Turek for trying to conflate faith and trust. They realize that faith is a bad decision-making process, so now they have to pretend we're all guilty of it.
      Trust based on experience is nothing like religious faith based on "I wanna believe because I'm scared of death".

    • @stephenolan5539
      @stephenolan5539 19 дней назад +2

      I prefer the word confidence.
      I distinguish it from faith by asking if you are willing to give the belief in question.
      I have confidence that a chair will hold me. I am willing to give up that belief based on evidence.

  • @ANCIENTWARRI0R
    @ANCIENTWARRI0R 8 дней назад

    Caller: I’m a skeptic. I start with the idea that there is a God. My evidence = I feel there has to be a god.

  • @anthonycraig274
    @anthonycraig274 20 дней назад +10

    There is no way you can be a rational person who was not convinced there is a god then flip into believing in Christ, resurrection and all that nonsense. It just doesn’t work that way unless you had a severe psychotic break.

    • @Leith_Crowther
      @Leith_Crowther 20 дней назад +3

      This might blow your mind, but not every atheist is an atheist for rational reasons.

    • @Facetiously.Esoteric
      @Facetiously.Esoteric 20 дней назад +3

      I was coming to post the same. You don't suddenly become irrational. Not without a mental break or physical damage to the brain.

    • @vitast2000
      @vitast2000 19 дней назад +3

      Religion is based on hope and fear, not rationality.

    • @Facetiously.Esoteric
      @Facetiously.Esoteric 19 дней назад

      @@Leith_Crowther 🤣 Your posts are always delusional.

    • @jackwhitbread4583
      @jackwhitbread4583 19 дней назад

      ​@@Leith_Crowtheragreed, I live in a very secular country and atheists come in all shapes and sizes, some are even flat earthers and anti vaxxers. Not all atheists are rational and not all atheists are ex Christians or have any real experience dealing with Christian faiths. Religion isn't talked about at all publicly in my country.