We are in our 60’s and trying to lift an Adventure 2 can be tough. We bought a Level 2 and put offroad tires just to cruse on dirt roads and trails. So much fun without the weight.
Love my Level 2 but I def regret not choosing Adventure 2. I only expected to commute to work but once you try out the level, you want to explore a lot on your new bike, including off road places. Something that I didn’t consider before purchasing.
Seriously true. I loved riding my old mongoose spark around. But I had underlying blood clotting issues that turned to an embolism, and now riding a regular bike can be quite troublesome/dangerous to me for long durations. A friend of mine gifted me a Level.2 and I have been riding it everywhere I can. I have almost 680 miles clocked on it in the three months I have had it.
Very well done, guys! There is one point folks should consider about riding a fat tire bike in the city that you didn't mention. The Aventure 1 that I will receive next week (prefer cadence sensor) will replace another fat tire ebike I have had for three and a half years. When there is no bike lane and heavy traffic, I ride on the sidewalk for safety. This means that at every cross street, I have to go down and up curbs of varying severity. I feel that the fat tires make this less jarring. Aventon having dealers nationwide is a strong plus. I am replacing my original ebike because it developed an electronic problem. It took six weeks of emails back and forth with Biktrix for them to find the parts I needed and give me an estimate of $937 (including shipping). Installation of those parts would have been another $200. I paid $1,499 for my new Aventure 1, and my local dealer included the rear rack for free (not standard on the Aventure 1, only the Aventure 2). Removing the battery when loading the bike on a car carrier doesn't just save weight on the carrier, as you mentioned. It also makes it easier to load, makes it a less attractive target for theft, and slows them down if they do steal it.
I have the Aventure.2 and absolutely love it! I day dream about riding Mon-Thur while in uni. Fri-Sun I am out there hitting trails while getting footage with an action camera and going from one location to another for photography / videography for my phone and Drone. Nothing comes close in Aventons line up of how cool and rugged the Aventure looks.
@@ElectricBikeJournal Yes I would... I personally value range over speed or motor torque. If you plan using your bike on bicycle paths, you'll have to comply with the local rules regarding e-bikes which limit the power of the motor anyways. I'd be happy with a "realistic" expected range of 60 miles. W'here not far from there...
You guys made a video that was perfect for my purchase decision! Thank you! I ended up going with the Adventure 2. Even though most miles would be one the pavement, it has the capability to “adventure” on those back roads in the PNW and beach and snow. Just picked it up yesterday and already I love it!!!
Got my Level 2 here in Australia 2 days ago fast delivered by Electric Kicks, putting it together was an easy, and after 2 days of riding 70km I totally love it, such an upgrade to my previous ebike FLX Babymaker Pro; torque sensor is amazing and happy with range, yesterday 45km ride used 55% battery, ride included a very steep winding hill with 300 m gain, another hill and having a stiff breeze throughout the ride; love your reviews, helped me to make decision after my FLX was stolen,
I received my Level 2 2 days ago . I chose the L2 because I only plan on riding on pavement. I can also put knobby tires on if I decide to do a little offroad
I like the weight of the level 2, especially with bike carrier choice and being able to take 2 bikes, so I’m planning to get one and put 2.25 mountain bike tires on.
Decisions, decisions. I like the weight of the Level 2 but I prefer the looks of the Aventure 2 and its larger motor. I want the step-through and I think the looks of the A2 is much better, even though that's purely subjective. I live in the PNW and could see myself going off road or in drizzly conditions quite a bit. This bike will never be used for commuting by me, only recreation. I wish the A2 was 15-20 lbs lighter. Thanks for this comparo.
I wonder if your thoughts would be different if you weighed a lot more? They list different payload capacity, I am close to 300#, but will want to bring home some groceries from time to time, I anticipate adding panniers.
Got my Level.2 about two weeks ago. I switched from Velotric to Aventon. Personally I absolutely love the Level.2, it is such an upgrade from my previous bike. I primarily ride on side walks and the bike lanes so it works for me. I haven’t tried a fat tire e-bike yet, but for my needs I don’t see the need.
I have been waiting for this exact comparison as I like both bikes but want to make the correct choice for my needs. We have a local Aventon dealer but so far have not gotten either one of these in yet. Most of my riding will be commuting to work on pavement, bike trails, dirt roads and weekend rides. I don't think I would benefit from the fat tires other than the comfort. I am more concerned with the extra weight of the Adventure. If the bike runs out of juice on a ride that extra 20 pounds might seem substantial just getting home in our hilly area. Another concern is how long do those fat tires last and how much to replace them? I was impressed, though, with the first uphill test where the Adventure simply pulled away from the Level. I still want to wait to see each one in person but I do appreciate this review.
Well we hope this video was helpful. From a commuting standpoint the Level.2 is our suggestions. You could definitely outfit some more aggressive tires on there for light trails. The Aventure did pull away on the uphill for throttle only mainly due to the 750w motor as opposed to 500w, That being said. Something to consider and think about is that both bikes successfully made it up a hill climb under throttle assist only. If that's important to you both will satisfy that need, one may do it faster but it was ultimately seconds in our case and for yourself you probably wouldn't find yourself "drag racing" another bike uphill on throttle only. Good luck with your research, sounds like you're considering the longterm ownership details as well, with future maintenance, pedaling with a dead battery... all very good things to remember when comparing.
I live in SW Florida where there are absolutely no hills.I weigh 145-150 pounds. I'm buying the Level rather than the Aventure for one main reason: The major difference in the weights of the bikes. It's almost inevitable that some day I'll either get a flat tire or have some other mishap that requires me to push or pedal the bike back home. The Level isn't a light bike, but compared to the Aventure it feels like one. [Side note: It's odd that the Aventure comes with turn signals but the Level, which is designed for commuting, doesn't. I can't understand Aventon's thinking on that one.]
Obviously they are different enough that one can't just put the difference down to a couple factors. On distance though, I have to believe that the Level 2 will go further side by side than the Adventure. 750W is 50% more than 500W. It was clear from your hill climb that this is a major climbing difference. But on a rolling terrain, 750 is 50% more power available with only a slightly larger battery and a significantly heavier bike. I think side by side on rolling terrain with a few 5% mile-long hills, an Adventure rider will tend to push the power use (fun!) and thus end up out of power sooner. Does it matter? Not if you tend to go 40 miles or less. But if you like to push the distance, the Level 2 should go further. The Adventure is great for looking like you're on a motorcycle and have "the power". It has 'cool factor'. The Level 2 seems preferable for those who don't need or want to get there faster, but do want to go farther. Since you live in hilly territory AND have both bikes, a side by side 50 to 60-mile ride would be interesting.
Hey guys, great review. This is just what I was looking for in reviews, regarding both bikes from Aventon. I had wished Aventon had upgraded the Level 2 motor to the 750w. That would have been almost the perfect e-bike. Some say that full- suspension would make a more complete bike, but I will disagree. “ It’s a bike “ not a cushy motorcycle. Besides, it does have front wheel suspension. Again, great comparison. On a side note… the location you chose to do the review, I guessed was Mt Tabor in Portland, Oregon? I grew up as a kid playing all over that location… perfect for biking. E-biking that is….
I wonder where the AR Kepler sheds weight over the Adventure 2? I have a couple friends with the Adventure and next to those my Kepler with a bigger battery, motor and rack looks much bigger. But the Kepler is lighter weight. Must be the frame size where the battery is hidden in the Adventure that gives it more weight. 🤔
Just about the same amount of work as you would find with any hub drive bike. We have a general how to video here on the channel that shows the process. In short, safely place your bike, make sure its off, loosen the axle and unplug the motor to remove the rear wheel. From there its just the same as any other bike.
Adventure 2 mainly because of the battery placement. I don't like the idea of the battery being on the bottom on the Level 2 where it could just drop out if the latch fails. Everything else to me could go either way.
Which one is suggested if mainly commuting a few miles and my area sucks at snow removal....especially ice removal. Plus, they don't take care of the sidewalks very well (uneven, cracks, holes, etc) and riding in street during winter isnt very safe in my area. I know studded tires are wanted and fat tires werent a thing last time i was biking so they are new to me.
Both would be totally fine for commuting. They both have plenty of PAS power and rack mounts and lights. Due to your road conditions we may suggest the Aventure.2 and if riding through the winter and on snow and ice you could look into studded tires for the season.
Out of the two, which would you all say is better for Oregon crazy weather riding (AKA when heavy snow hits or heavy rain storms, ect), and for just back and forth to work and home and the occasional store visit here and there?
Love the level 2 for my wife who is only about 5ft 2 or 3 on Good day, but, she likes cruiser type upright ride.. Not sure this offers that(though I might or could switch out the handle bars or add an adjustable stem... But the aventure 2 seemed tiny but more upright??? And just more fun.. I'm stuck between these two and the magicycle ocelot pro surprisingly as lot of reviews looked fun and easy for shorter rider and upright. Any feedback be great!!
I’m a 68 yo 5’4” female and I first got the Aventure 1 and really like it, but it’s actually too heavy for me. I thought I wanted the bigger tires for riding on a crushed gravel trail. I decided to get the Level ll after I fell off the Aventure. I got it from a local dealer and had the handlebars and stem switched out for the Pace ones. The bike is lighter and much more comfortable and easier to handle. I love it and am glad I switched.
My wife and I rode the Aventon Level 2 last week and loved it. We have't ridden the Adventure 2 because we store our bikes upside down on hooks in the garage and we thought it would be too heavy to lift up on a regular basis. But, I am wondering as a newbie to e-bikes if we would regret not buying the Adventure 2 since it is more off-road capable? We don't have any experience with e-bikes and don't know if riding on more off-road trails is something we want to do yet? Is the extra 24 pounds of weight and being more off-road capable worth it?
It all depends on if you plan on really going on off road trails that aren’t packed gravel/dirt. The level will do ok on that. When it gets loose like bigger rocks/sand the fatter tires of the Aventure make a big difference
@@ElectricBikeJournal I may have answered my own question when we went on a bike ride yesterday on our non e-bikes. My wife has more off-road tires on her bike. She didn't like being on the gravel or going over tree roots. I have street tires and didn't mind it a bit. So, I think the Level 2 might be just fine for light duty off-road. We are going to test ride them back to back next weekend just to make sure.Glad we have a dealer somewhat nearby.
I have a Level 1 with 4000 great miles. Today I looked closely at the Aventure2 at a shop. They aren’t close to being the same. The Aventure 2 is a tank, the Level 1 is almost dainty compared. Getting the Level in my large SUV is tough enough, but getting the Aventure in there will be a bitch. I would love have such a contrasting bike in my garage.
Great video! Do you know what motors they use? I see them advertised as Bafang sometimes, and then Shengyi in others? Sometimes even on the same model. Do you know by any chance please?
We will try and find out. Due to not listing on their website who the. manufacturer is, they may source different motors based off of available inventory.
Where is the torque sensor located on the Level 2? Most people would just assume that it issn the bottom bracket, but there are other types of torque sensors too. Please let us know what type of torques sensor is on the Level 2. Thanks!
Folks I saw the reviews on the Aventon and I decided that I was going with a much heavier bike 92 lbs. yup the Magicycle ( Deer ) this was really a really hard decision. Having been on motorcycles for well more then 50 years I didn’t want torque sensor E Bike. I wanted to be able to hit the throttle if needed. And I like the twist throttle ( right hand not left hand ) The Avenoton are really well made one other thing I wanted a bigger battery .. Magicycle Deer 52 volt 20ah 750 watt 96nm it’s a beast and it needs it as it’s heavy. I also wanted full suspension and I take it on trails.. Does it have it’s problems you bet. .. Great reviews guys…
@@ElectricBikeJournal Guys I wasn’t getting down on you. Frankly I was extremely impressed with all of your reviews and because of them at least right now I think I made the right choice. I spent months reading and watching . I at first thought I wanted a folding E bikes but that didn’t last long having the Docs Lectrics. Who but the way sold both to me at a large discount there fine for my wife and friends who come to our place. I was able to speak with a lot of folks who went with the Torque sensor bikes. I was really surprised that a lot didn’t care for them. I’m 70 so maybe age has something to do with it. I was watching the giveaway I was in my office and a few folks who I share your information with all called and said if they won I would here about it forever. ( Good Folks ) who really enjoy you site. I’m wondering what are the chances your going to be doing full suspension bikes. That’s what finally pushed me to getting the Magicycle Deer. Riding on really torn up roads, gravel roads and horse trails. One point Magicycle Deer says its like a mountain bike. No way but for a lot of my needs it fits the bill.. Please keep up the great reviews I and a lot of folks really respect your opinions. Thanks .. Ron…
I was hoping you would of addressed your preference between the torque and cadence sensor and talked a little bit about that since that's one of the major differences between the two bikes that people have to consider when buying.
We talked about that in the full reviews on each bike, but in general we prefer torque sensor as it gives a more natural bike ride feel. Both of these models do have torque sensors though.
Most e-bikes are rated to be water resistant, so yes you can ride in the rain. it’s always best to check what the manufacture has specd for the specific bike you want.
Yes some tires with more tread would help it in the gravel some more. Only thing we see it changing is rolling resistance on concrete due to the tires having a different tread pattern
I have the Aventure 2 and the wife the Level 2. I wanted a little more power and she opted for something she felt she could control. We both feel we made the right choice. The Aventure two is definitely more stable while the Level 2 is quite a bit more nimble. I don't think you can go wrong with either bike. I am surprised that once the Aventure 2 is up to speed on a level road, that I can switch the assist mode to off and still keep the speed up due to the bike's momentum. One problem I didn't think of with the Aventure 2 is finding a bike rack that can handle the beast. Have not yet seen a review that even considers this problem. While most ebike racks can handle the Level 2, I could find only a couple that would take the Aventure 2, due to weight, fat tires and fenders. I was not looking forward to hefting that thing into place, so we were looking for either a lower rack or one that had a ramp. I thought we were going to have to go with a motorbike rack, but finally found a bike rack that fit our needs. It is expensive (cost almost as mcuh as the bike) and back ordered. I'm still glad I got the Aventure 2, but finding a rack is definitely a plus for the Level 2.
There are definitely reasons that would be worth considering. For instance, that's 15lbs as-is, will only add more weight with bags and gear. If you have to lift it for loading, or even falling, the extra weight could be a challenge. Really depends on your abilities and if that amount of weight would have room to impact you personally. As far as riding them goes, you don't really feel the weight difference too much.
@@ElectricBikeJournal Thank you for that link but I have already ordered level 2 and waiting for it. I’ll compare it with aventure in the shop and then will decide.
I find it odd that everyone says the Level.2 has a max range of roughly 60 miles. I have one of those bikes and I used PAS1 all the time, I am getting closer to and over 100 miles easily. In fact I just rode my bike two days ago, did 84 miles round trip and still had maybe a little over 32% battery left... My biggest complaint about this great bike. Dont think about riding it with PAS off. Seriously, it is crazy hard to pedal. Feels like pedaling through molasses... or kinda deep water. An the seat. It is awfully uncomfortable. The leg contours leading to the main seat area get too wide too abruptly. I know it is a commuter, but the seat off the soltera 7 was a much more comfortable ride for me.
When you buy expensive bikes you get low value for $$$ but high quality. When you buy mid-range bikes you get both high value for $$$ and high quality. When you buy cheap bikes you get high value for $$$ but low quality.
Plan your life around an e-bike and avoid the wealth draining.... DMV fees Monthly insurance Energy costs Car washes Driving tickets Parking fees Towing fees Impound fees Accident claims Theft concerns Requests for free rides Road blocking breakdown Road rage risks Getting cut off Auto body shops Mechanic rip offs
After watching this I realized my 1000 watt rear wheel ebike kit with a 48v 20amp battery is far better then these two bikes in this video. Plus the ebike kit only cost me $600 and is built on a 26 inch chromoly Trek mountain bike, the mountain bike that I got used at a garage sale for $5. My ebike compared to the adventure 2 is just a little over a thousand dollars cheaper! 😂 Note my ebike also has the exact same thumb throttle as those Aventon bikes have.
Wow, I just stumbled upon this video titled "Aventon" and I must say, I'm impressed! The creator really did a fantastic job showcasing the features and performance of the Aventon e-bike. As an e-bike enthusiast myself, I appreciate the attention to detail and the clear passion for cycling that is evident in this video. It's always exciting to come across new and innovative projects in the e-bike industry. Speaking of which, I recently found another crowdfunding project called freebeat's new product, the freebeat Morph 2-in-1 e-Bike. I was blown away by its unique dual mode functionality that allows it to be used both indoors and outdoors. The most outstanding feature for me is definitely the ability to charge the bike when in indoor mode! With its powerful motor, impressive torque, and top speed, the Morph eBike seems like a thrilling ride. The 80mm front suspension and puncture-resistant fat tires also ensure a smooth and comfortable experience on any terrain. But what really stands out to me is the innovative technology integrated into the e-bike. The Smart Saddle Detection+ feature is a game-changer, helping users achieve their fitness goals while providing valuable performance insights. Plus, the ability to convert calories burned into CO2-free miles for outdoor rides is a fantastic way to make a positive impact on the environment. The removable battery and the ability to generate your own energy during indoor rides is such a cool concept. I'm genuinely excited about this product and would love to learn more about it. If you're interested too, you can find more information and pre-order on Kickstarter. Let's support innovation in the e-bike industry and keep pushing the boundaries of what's possible!
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I have NEVER seen a RUclips video where folks had their questions answered!
You guys offer outstanding support along with your videos…THANK YOU! ❤
You're welcome! Glad we could help!
We are in our 60’s and trying to lift an Adventure 2 can be tough. We bought a Level 2 and put offroad tires just to cruse on dirt roads and trails. So much fun without the weight.
Great idea and great point! Thx!
Love my Level 2 but I def regret not choosing Adventure 2. I only expected to commute to work but once you try out the level, you want to explore a lot on your new bike, including off road places. Something that I didn’t consider before purchasing.
Seriously true. I loved riding my old mongoose spark around. But I had underlying blood clotting issues that turned to an embolism, and now riding a regular bike can be quite troublesome/dangerous to me for long durations. A friend of mine gifted me a Level.2 and I have been riding it everywhere I can. I have almost 680 miles clocked on it in the three months I have had it.
It's almost as if the bikes are already labeled for there intended use........
Likewise. I purchased the Level 2. Great bike, But there are off road trails that I’d like to ride which would be more suited to the Aventure 2
Thanks for that comment. You just helped me and my decision between the two bikes. Thanks again!
I want a Level.2 Performance. That’s the Level.2 with the Adventure motor lo
Very well done, guys!
There is one point folks should consider about riding a fat tire bike in the city that you didn't mention. The Aventure 1 that I will receive next week (prefer cadence sensor) will replace another fat tire ebike I have had for three and a half years. When there is no bike lane and heavy traffic, I ride on the sidewalk for safety. This means that at every cross street, I have to go down and up curbs of varying severity. I feel that the fat tires make this less jarring.
Aventon having dealers nationwide is a strong plus. I am replacing my original ebike because it developed an electronic problem. It took six weeks of emails back and forth with Biktrix for them to find the parts I needed and give me an estimate of $937 (including shipping). Installation of those parts would have been another $200. I paid $1,499 for my new Aventure 1, and my local dealer included the rear rack for free (not standard on the Aventure 1, only the Aventure 2).
Removing the battery when loading the bike on a car carrier doesn't just save weight on the carrier, as you mentioned. It also makes it easier to load, makes it a less attractive target for theft, and slows them down if they do steal it.
I have the Aventure.2 and absolutely love it! I day dream about riding Mon-Thur while in uni. Fri-Sun I am out there hitting trails while getting footage with an action camera and going from one location to another for photography / videography for my phone and Drone. Nothing comes close in Aventons line up of how cool and rugged the Aventure looks.
Nice to hear you are enjoying it!
I Prefer the Level 2 for my use case, but I really wish they offered it with the bigger motor. For me that would be best of both worlds.
Definitely would be nice with the bigger motor.
I'd go for a bigger battery instead if I had the choice...
If you don’t mind us asking. If the batteries were switched (theoretically) would you still choose the larger battery?
@@ElectricBikeJournal Yes I would... I personally value range over speed or motor torque. If you plan using your bike on bicycle paths, you'll have to comply with the local rules regarding e-bikes which limit the power of the motor anyways. I'd be happy with a "realistic" expected range of 60 miles. W'here not far from there...
@@rogerst-arneault3522 they restrict speed not power, you can control the speed your going but you cant add more power if the situation warrants it
You guys made a video that was perfect for my purchase decision! Thank you! I ended up going with the Adventure 2. Even though most miles would be one the pavement, it has the capability to “adventure” on those back roads in the PNW and beach and snow. Just picked it up yesterday and already I love it!!!
Our pleasure!
Got my Level 2 here in Australia 2 days ago fast delivered by Electric Kicks, putting it together was an easy, and after 2 days of riding 70km I totally love it, such an upgrade to my previous ebike FLX Babymaker Pro; torque sensor is amazing and happy with range, yesterday 45km ride used 55% battery, ride included a very steep winding hill with 300 m gain, another hill and having a stiff breeze throughout the ride; love your reviews, helped me to make decision after my FLX was stolen,
Great to hear! And thanks for watching!
Feels like the obvious answer is to buy both. 😊
I received my Level 2 2 days ago . I chose the L2 because I only plan on riding on pavement. I can also put knobby tires on if I decide to do a little offroad
Thanks for sharing!
Well done. Thanks for the useful info!
Glad we were able to help.
i have aventon level 2.. now at 100 miles.. LOVE it so far.. cant speak for the non torque sensor.. but its amazing so far
Awesome! Fun bike for sure.
Great review!
I like the weight of the level 2, especially with bike carrier choice and being able to take 2 bikes, so I’m planning to get one and put 2.25 mountain bike tires on.
Nice! You might have to swap out the fenders for different ones or off entirely to clear bigger tires. 2.25 might squeeze in there.
I'm interested in this as well. It does seem like you could get pretty close to Adventure size tires if you removed/modified the fenders.
Great review
XYZ my guy. Great video fellas. I’m torn between the two.
Decisions, decisions. I like the weight of the Level 2 but I prefer the looks of the Aventure 2 and its larger motor. I want the step-through and I think the looks of the A2 is much better, even though that's purely subjective. I live in the PNW and could see myself going off road or in drizzly conditions quite a bit. This bike will never be used for commuting by me, only recreation. I wish the A2 was 15-20 lbs lighter. Thanks for this comparo.
Great review Thanks Guys
Thanks for watching!
I wonder if your thoughts would be different if you weighed a lot more? They list different payload capacity, I am close to 300#, but will want to bring home some groceries from time to time, I anticipate adding panniers.
Being 66 years young I’m nervous about the weight but in NE Wis area a lot of gravel roads n dirt fire lanes I can ride.
Got my Level.2 about two weeks ago. I switched from Velotric to Aventon.
Personally I absolutely love the Level.2, it is such an upgrade from my previous bike. I primarily ride on side walks and the bike lanes so it works for me. I haven’t tried a fat tire e-bike yet, but for my needs I don’t see the need.
Nice! Have fun out there.
I have been waiting for this exact comparison as I like both bikes but want to make the correct choice for my needs. We have a local Aventon dealer but so far have not gotten either one of these in yet. Most of my riding will be commuting to work on pavement, bike trails, dirt roads and weekend rides. I don't think I would benefit from the fat tires other than the comfort. I am more concerned with the extra weight of the Adventure. If the bike runs out of juice on a ride that extra 20 pounds might seem substantial just getting home in our hilly area. Another concern is how long do those fat tires last and how much to replace them? I was impressed, though, with the first uphill test where the Adventure simply pulled away from the Level. I still want to wait to see each one in person but I do appreciate this review.
Well we hope this video was helpful. From a commuting standpoint the Level.2 is our suggestions. You could definitely outfit some more aggressive tires on there for light trails. The Aventure did pull away on the uphill for throttle only mainly due to the 750w motor as opposed to 500w, That being said. Something to consider and think about is that both bikes successfully made it up a hill climb under throttle assist only. If that's important to you both will satisfy that need, one may do it faster but it was ultimately seconds in our case and for yourself you probably wouldn't find yourself "drag racing" another bike uphill on throttle only. Good luck with your research, sounds like you're considering the longterm ownership details as well, with future maintenance, pedaling with a dead battery... all very good things to remember when comparing.
well done guys, thanks
You’re welcome!
I live in SW Florida where there are absolutely no hills.I weigh 145-150 pounds. I'm buying the Level rather than the Aventure for one main reason: The major difference in the weights of the bikes. It's almost inevitable that some day I'll either get a flat tire or have some other mishap that requires me to push or pedal the bike back home. The Level isn't a light bike, but compared to the Aventure it feels like one. [Side note: It's odd that the Aventure comes with turn signals but the Level, which is designed for commuting, doesn't. I can't understand Aventon's thinking on that one.]
Obviously they are different enough that one can't just put the difference down to a couple factors. On distance though, I have to believe that the Level 2 will go further side by side than the Adventure. 750W is 50% more than 500W. It was clear from your hill climb that this is a major climbing difference. But on a rolling terrain, 750 is 50% more power available with only a slightly larger battery and a significantly heavier bike. I think side by side on rolling terrain with a few 5% mile-long hills, an Adventure rider will tend to push the power use (fun!) and thus end up out of power sooner.
Does it matter? Not if you tend to go 40 miles or less. But if you like to push the distance, the Level 2 should go further. The Adventure is great for looking like you're on a motorcycle and have "the power". It has 'cool factor'. The Level 2 seems preferable for those who don't need or want to get there faster, but do want to go farther.
Since you live in hilly territory AND have both bikes, a side by side 50 to 60-mile ride would be interesting.
Hey guys, great review. This is just what I was looking for in reviews, regarding both bikes from Aventon. I had wished Aventon had upgraded the Level 2 motor to the 750w. That would have been almost the perfect e-bike. Some say that full- suspension would make a more complete bike, but I will disagree. “ It’s a bike “ not a cushy motorcycle. Besides, it does have front wheel suspension. Again, great comparison.
On a side note… the location you chose to do the review, I guessed was Mt Tabor in Portland, Oregon? I grew up as a kid playing all over that location… perfect for biking. E-biking that is….
Thanks! Yes this was filmed in Mt Tabor, a great park all around.
I'm so used to seeing the Level.2 in white, I was confused for a second lol
I wonder where the AR Kepler sheds weight over the Adventure 2? I have a couple friends with the Adventure and next to those my Kepler with a bigger battery, motor and rack looks much bigger. But the Kepler is lighter weight. Must be the frame size where the battery is hidden in the Adventure that gives it more weight. 🤔
Cool video and in depth comparison. What are the torque ratings in Nm for each of these bikes? Thanks.
We will reach out to Aventon, but those numbers aren't readily available. We vaguely remember the Level.2 being 50nm, but will need to verify.
Great review! How about changing the tires and flats? Is it difficult to change the rear tire?
Just about the same amount of work as you would find with any hub drive bike. We have a general how to video here on the channel that shows the process. In short, safely place your bike, make sure its off, loosen the axle and unplug the motor to remove the rear wheel. From there its just the same as any other bike.
If Aventon used the same gear on both bikes, I would have gone with the Level 2!!
Adventure 2 mainly because of the battery placement. I don't like the idea of the battery being on the bottom on the Level 2 where it could just drop out if the latch fails. Everything else to me could go either way.
It’s got 2 latches one requires the key and the other one is a spring switch
Thanks for the video! Did you choose intentionally your clothes colors to match the bikes? Nice touch! :)
Just coincidence! Glad you enjoyed the video.
Which one is suggested if mainly commuting a few miles and my area sucks at snow removal....especially ice removal. Plus, they don't take care of the sidewalks very well (uneven, cracks, holes, etc) and riding in street during winter isnt very safe in my area. I know studded tires are wanted and fat tires werent a thing last time i was biking so they are new to me.
Both would be totally fine for commuting. They both have plenty of PAS power and rack mounts and lights. Due to your road conditions we may suggest the Aventure.2 and if riding through the winter and on snow and ice you could look into studded tires for the season.
Out of the two, which would you all say is better for Oregon crazy weather riding (AKA when heavy snow hits or heavy rain storms, ect), and for just back and forth to work and home and the occasional store visit here and there?
I’d say the Aventure. We’ve ridden the Aventure in the snow and it did well. Having the bigger tires helps in the snow for sure.
@@ElectricBikeJournal thank you for the reply, and helping me decide between the two! Have a great week!
Love the level 2 for my wife who is only about 5ft 2 or 3 on Good day, but, she likes cruiser type upright ride.. Not sure this offers that(though I might or could switch out the handle bars or add an adjustable stem... But the aventure 2 seemed tiny but more upright??? And just more fun.. I'm stuck between these two and the magicycle ocelot pro surprisingly as lot of reviews looked fun and easy for shorter rider and upright. Any feedback be great!!
I’m a 68 yo 5’4” female and I first got the Aventure 1 and really like it, but it’s actually too heavy for me. I thought I wanted the bigger tires for riding on a crushed gravel trail. I decided to get the Level ll after I fell off the Aventure. I got it from a local dealer and had the handlebars and stem switched out for the Pace ones. The bike is lighter and much more comfortable and easier to handle. I love it and am glad I switched.
My wife and I rode the Aventon Level 2 last week and loved it. We have't ridden the Adventure 2 because we store our bikes upside down on hooks in the garage and we thought it would be too heavy to lift up on a regular basis. But, I am wondering as a newbie to e-bikes if we would regret not buying the Adventure 2 since it is more off-road capable? We don't have any experience with e-bikes and don't know if riding on more off-road trails is something we want to do yet? Is the extra 24 pounds of weight and being more off-road capable worth it?
It all depends on if you plan on really going on off road trails that aren’t packed gravel/dirt. The level will do ok on that. When it gets loose like bigger rocks/sand the fatter tires of the Aventure make a big difference
@@ElectricBikeJournal I may have answered my own question when we went on a bike ride yesterday on our non e-bikes. My wife has more off-road tires on her bike. She didn't like being on the gravel or going over tree roots. I have street tires and didn't mind it a bit. So, I think the Level 2 might be just fine for light duty off-road. We are going to test ride them back to back next weekend just to make sure.Glad we have a dealer somewhat nearby.
Adventure is an amazing bike. I like riding it more than my motorcycle
It really is fun!
I have a Level 1 with 4000 great miles. Today I looked closely at the Aventure2 at a shop. They aren’t close to being the same. The Aventure 2 is a tank, the Level 1 is almost dainty compared. Getting the Level in my large SUV is tough enough, but getting the Aventure in there will be a bitch. I would love have such a contrasting bike in my garage.
It would be nice to have both bikes for sure, then you can ride all sorts of terrain
What is the best all around commuter?
Pro tip: Get the level 2 for commuting and get a full suspension GT eForce Current for off-road at $2,500.
I had the aventon adventure coming towards me on a bike path and it looks like a Harley Hog on a sidewalk. They are much bigger in person!
Haha. Yes they are fairly large bikes
thats actually one of the reasons i went with the Level.2. Ill use it for commuting but dont want a bike that looks that chunky😅
So, what were the battery levels after your tests?
Great video! Do you know what motors they use? I see them advertised as Bafang sometimes, and then Shengyi in others? Sometimes even on the same model. Do you know by any chance please?
We will try and find out. Due to not listing on their website who the. manufacturer is, they may source different motors based off of available inventory.
@@ElectricBikeJournal That was my thought as well. Really appreciate it mate. Thank you.
Where is the torque sensor located on the Level 2? Most people would just assume that it issn the bottom bracket, but there are other types of torque sensors too. Please let us know what type of torques sensor is on the Level 2. Thanks!
Folks I saw the reviews on the Aventon and I decided that I was going with a much heavier bike
92 lbs. yup the Magicycle ( Deer ) this was really a really hard decision. Having been on motorcycles
for well more then 50 years I didn’t want torque sensor E Bike. I wanted to be able to hit the throttle
if needed. And I like the twist throttle ( right hand not left hand ) The Avenoton are really well made
one other thing I wanted a bigger battery .. Magicycle Deer 52 volt 20ah 750 watt 96nm it’s a beast
and it needs it as it’s heavy. I also wanted full suspension and I take it on trails.. Does it have it’s
problems you bet. .. Great reviews guys…
Thanks! Just trying to help and soak in some spring weather ;)
@@ElectricBikeJournal
Guys I wasn’t getting down on you. Frankly I was extremely impressed with all of your reviews
and because of them at least right now I think I made the right choice. I spent months
reading and watching . I at first thought I wanted a folding E bikes but that didn’t last long
having the Docs Lectrics. Who but the way sold both to me at a large discount there fine for
my wife and friends who come to our place. I was able to speak with a lot of folks who went
with the Torque sensor bikes. I was really surprised that a lot didn’t care for them. I’m 70
so maybe age has something to do with it. I was watching the giveaway I was in my office and
a few folks who I share your information with all called and said if they won I would here about
it forever. ( Good Folks ) who really enjoy you site. I’m wondering what are the chances your
going to be doing full suspension bikes. That’s what finally pushed me to getting the Magicycle
Deer. Riding on really torn up roads, gravel roads and horse trails. One point Magicycle Deer
says its like a mountain bike. No way but for a lot of my needs it fits the bill.. Please keep up
the great reviews I and a lot of folks really respect your opinions. Thanks .. Ron…
The best range I have gotten on my Level 2 is 43 mi . On my level 1 I got 67 miles out of a charge not the happy with the 2 after 2300 mi.
Huh, that is unexpected and perhaps a outlier? Curious as to what, specifically, you do not like about eh Level 2?
Has anyone ever put mountain bike tires on the Level 2? I just don't think I want that big heavy venture 2.
We did and it was wonderful. My wife loves it. We are in our 60’s.
I was hoping you would of addressed your preference between the torque and cadence sensor and talked a little bit about that since that's one of the major differences between the two bikes that people have to consider when buying.
We talked about that in the full reviews on each bike, but in general we prefer torque sensor as it gives a more natural bike ride feel. Both of these models do have torque sensors though.
Weight is not affected by gravity. It doesn’t matter how much the bike weighs.
Can you ride the ebike in heavy rain? Will it shock me or screw anything up?
Most e-bikes are rated to be water resistant, so yes you can ride in the rain. it’s always best to check what the manufacture has specd for the specific bike you want.
its quite surprising even with the massive tires the adventure is faster then the level. too bad the level doesnt have a 750w motor.
Easy choice, adventure for !00 more.
Have there been any motor, battery or electrical problems?
We haven’t had any problems with either of these bikes.
Would putting more aggressive tires on the commuter help with gravel and not change the bike characteristics too much?
Yes some tires with more tread would help it in the gravel some more. Only thing we see it changing is rolling resistance on concrete due to the tires having a different tread pattern
I have the Aventure 2 and the wife the Level 2. I wanted a little more power and she opted for something she felt she could control. We both feel we made the right choice. The Aventure two is definitely more stable while the Level 2 is quite a bit more nimble. I don't think you can go wrong with either bike. I am surprised that once the Aventure 2 is up to speed on a level road, that I can switch the assist mode to off and still keep the speed up due to the bike's momentum.
One problem I didn't think of with the Aventure 2 is finding a bike rack that can handle the beast. Have not yet seen a review that even considers this problem. While most ebike racks can handle the Level 2, I could find only a couple that would take the Aventure 2, due to weight, fat tires and fenders. I was not looking forward to hefting that thing into place, so we were looking for either a lower rack or one that had a ramp. I thought we were going to have to go with a motorbike rack, but finally found a bike rack that fit our needs. It is expensive (cost almost as mcuh as the bike) and back ordered. I'm still glad I got the Aventure 2, but finding a rack is definitely a plus for the Level 2.
Dumb question. Can I just change the rear wheel on my level to a 1000w motor for more power?
Not too sure to be honest. I am sure there is someone out there that could do that.
No you cant do that these have controllers and batteries and stuff
is the 15lb difference a concerning factor?
There are definitely reasons that would be worth considering. For instance, that's 15lbs as-is, will only add more weight with bags and gear. If you have to lift it for loading, or even falling, the extra weight could be a challenge. Really depends on your abilities and if that amount of weight would have room to impact you personally. As far as riding them goes, you don't really feel the weight difference too much.
I am heavy and the Level 2 can't handle people who are obese. I am getting the Aventure 2.
Are they reg or large frames?
They are the Large frames
Couldn’t the side difference between you two be taken into consideration?
It could be a minor consideration which is why we hopped back and forth between the bikes during our comparison.
Those pants look like they might get drafty?
Custom feature on the pants.
Which one should I go with for Uber Eats Delivery Rides?
Between these two we’d probably suggest the Level for urban riding. More efficient and lighter.
@@ElectricBikeJournal Thanks for the suggestion. I was also close to that choice!
If you are planning to order online, check our link in the description, we'd appreciate the support! Good luck on the purchase!
@@ElectricBikeJournal Thank you for that link but I have already ordered level 2 and waiting for it. I’ll compare it with aventure in the shop and then will decide.
Thanks and please write back and let us know what you think!
34 mph with a less than 52 tooth front plate I don't think so😮
That first test result alone is worth the extra cost
Gravity pushes all objects at the same rate. I know this is against popular belief.
I find it odd that everyone says the Level.2 has a max range of roughly 60 miles. I have one of those bikes and I used PAS1 all the time, I am getting closer to and over 100 miles easily. In fact I just rode my bike two days ago, did 84 miles round trip and still had maybe a little over 32% battery left...
My biggest complaint about this great bike. Dont think about riding it with PAS off. Seriously, it is crazy hard to pedal. Feels like pedaling through molasses... or kinda deep water. An the seat. It is awfully uncomfortable. The leg contours leading to the main seat area get too wide too abruptly. I know it is a commuter, but the seat off the soltera 7 was a much more comfortable ride for me.
When you buy expensive bikes you get low value for $$$ but high quality. When you buy mid-range bikes you get both high value for $$$ and high quality. When you buy cheap bikes you get high value for $$$ but low quality.
Just gotta find the balance that works for you.
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After watching this I realized my 1000 watt rear wheel ebike kit with a 48v 20amp battery is far better then these two bikes in this video.
Plus the ebike kit only cost me $600 and is built on a 26 inch chromoly Trek mountain bike, the mountain bike that I got used at a garage sale for $5. My ebike compared to the adventure 2 is just a little over a thousand dollars cheaper! 😂
Note my ebike also has the exact same thumb throttle as those Aventon bikes have.
We have a genius right here.
Wow, I just stumbled upon this video titled "Aventon" and I must say, I'm impressed! The creator really did a fantastic job showcasing the features and performance of the Aventon e-bike. As an e-bike enthusiast myself, I appreciate the attention to detail and the clear passion for cycling that is evident in this video. It's always exciting to come across new and innovative projects in the e-bike industry. Speaking of which, I recently found another crowdfunding project called freebeat's new product, the freebeat Morph 2-in-1 e-Bike. I was blown away by its unique dual mode functionality that allows it to be used both indoors and outdoors. The most outstanding feature for me is definitely the ability to charge the bike when in indoor mode! With its powerful motor, impressive torque, and top speed, the Morph eBike seems like a thrilling ride. The 80mm front suspension and puncture-resistant fat tires also ensure a smooth and comfortable experience on any terrain. But what really stands out to me is the innovative technology integrated into the e-bike. The Smart Saddle Detection+ feature is a game-changer, helping users achieve their fitness goals while providing valuable performance insights. Plus, the ability to convert calories burned into CO2-free miles for outdoor rides is a fantastic way to make a positive impact on the environment. The removable battery and the ability to generate your own energy during indoor rides is such a cool concept. I'm genuinely excited about this product and would love to learn more about it. If you're interested too, you can find more information and pre-order on Kickstarter. Let's support innovation in the e-bike industry and keep pushing the boundaries of what's possible!