How Sixers TRADING Jrue Holiday backfired 🤦🏼♂️
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The Sixers tanked on purpose to build a championship team and the entire thing was a failure. Joel Embiid is the only player the 76ers got out of years of losing on purpose.
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Until Embiid is traded, retires or isn't the same player, NO. The Process story isn't over and this offseason is the deciding factor in the process. Jrue was probably never winning a title here in Philly. He went nowhere in New Orleans either so there's that. Jrue has been on 2 loaded teams the last 4 years, that's what's made him look so good now. Jrue is an ELITE role player, not a superstar leading a team to a championship. Hell, Maxey right now at just 23 is better than Jrue ever was (hate me all you want but he's not the player Maxey is). I've been a Sicko since 1999 and it's sad that all I have as a Sicko is that magical 2001 season. It freaking sucks but it is what it is.
Facts
I don’t believe in Daryl at all he’s probably gonna get pg or Ingram and get 3rd string center and 3rd string shooting guard 😂
@@yourboydylan1770 agreed man. Daryl cares only about signing stars, and aging/over the hill stars. Overpaying for PG, Jimmy or Ingram will be the death knell in the process. Getting Bridges from Brooklyn would be great as would someone like Brogdan and Grant from Portland.
Yeah jrue always had mature winning game, he played with losers his entire career until the bucks 1st yr same in Boston. Jrue was better than Derrick fisher if that makes sense. I’m just saying jrue is legit better player than rondo. He’s been better than a lot of players in the nba.
"Defend the Process" 🤣💀🤣
Gannis was the player I looked at during that time because he fit what we were attempting to do. He was 6’8 Uber athletic possible wing. Not good enough to drastically change the trajectory but could have developed into a solid player. He went on to be a MVP and nba champion
Imagine a lineup of Tyrese haliburton, a healthy markelle fultz, Jimmy butler, Giannis antetekounmpo, and Joel Embiid 😂
Basically we traded Jrue Holiday for Nerlens Noels, after that we just start making terrible pick drafting three centers while we had Joel embiid. Not top guards, not top forwards, just a bunch of centers who either couldn't shoot, couldn't jump, couldn't run, couldn't rebound, couldn't shoot foul shots, couldn't think, couldn't defend, couldn't dunk, and should not have been drafted
Nerlens was so ass
I’d much rather have Nerlens Noel right now than Paul Reed.
@@MarcS-mp1je you gotta point he way better den Paul Reed by miles🤣🤣🤣and was a star in college
holiday was drafted in 09
The boston celtics used wicca magick on us 😂
the process failed because of the bad draft picks. the insistence on red shirting was annoying, but trading holiday and blowing up that team was the right move. hinkie got too much credit for his “trust the process” idea, which was just cope for bad draft picks and bad team building. any good gm would have blown up that sixers team, but no good gm would take that long to build a quality team.
trying to get 5 top 10 picks of overrated. you cant pay that many stars anyway. you should be able to get by with 2-3. develop some late lottery picks, and sign some good players. it shouldnt take that long to rebuild.
I get DJ’s argument on Sam fumbling on moves…. I don’t get everyone else quit to bash it and trying to lump Colangelo, brand, and Morey together as Hinkie’s doing …. That’s not the process …. I remember SAS talking bad about us every day. I remember agents telling players not to sign with us and players in the draft not to work out for us. What GM could build a dynasty under that situation? It’s literally reverse collusion vs The NBA
Tatum is the "Ross Dress for Less" version of Kobe. Straight facts! Dude has been a no show in these finals yet they're up 2-0...must be nice. We'd need Embiid to average 40 for us to be in their position. Sixers are a mess lol
I hope fultz one day clarifies everything that happened to him in Philly. I learned about thoracic outlet syndrome in anatomy class and I would automatically think about the tragic sixers lol
God gave the Sixers Moses, they won a championship and then traded him.. Sixers traded Moses.. it’s over
For a kneecapped dud
I don’t know if I want to have become a Sixers fan sooner or if I should be happy I didn’t
Celtics are so lucky to have deep balance, 1 thru 7, playoff ready players..Holiday was run out of town by sports talk hosts
Yes
We gotta trade Joel and start this whole thing over again
Maxey has to be a superstar
Imo the process, which was basically Hinkies plan to bottom out and draft bpa and capitalize on value in trades, was a good idea. He committed to it and by the time he was fired he had accumulated a ton of assets and Embiid. Yes there are misses with the high picks but they were essentially shooting for the stars every time. Markelle and Simmons could’ve been superstars but injuries, ego, or motivation held them back. When the Sixers fired Hinkie they went immediately into cash in mode and the execution was obviously not the best lol. So I think it’s hard to fault Hinkie and the original plan since he could never see it through. And it was a long term plan for sustainable success. Just got cold feet too quick
5:00 and here's the thing... Embiid would have went number 1 to the Cavs if he didnt get injured during pre draft workouts. 76ers would have been stuck Jabari Parker if that was the case which would have turned out to be a disaster.
95 try 1980 40 years n no rings in a major basketball city. Had a chip in every decade until the 90’s. Bad management bad drafting and the worst free agent signings possible
76ers make so many errors with drafting and trades the front office gets away with it
Sixers notorious for not utilizing their talent, and I say that as a life long Sixers fan.. Allen Iverson spoiled them..
With names like Okafor,Fultz,Korkmaz,Simmons,Bridges/ Z.Smith,Reed, I.Joe(released,J,Grant(released) ,that could’ve set the Sixers for a decade…We got lucky with Embiid because he was pushed down to injury,and a pal at Kentucky persuaded Morey to take Maxey..as you see two players don’t make a team….
Jerami Grant was actually traded for Irsan Illiyasova 😂
I loved Erson Ilyasova when he was here. I thought he was a great fit with Embiid.
Fultz said he hurt his shoulder in a car accident or motorcycle accident something like that
Sixers notorious for not utilizing their talent, and I say that as a life long Sixers fan.. Allen Iverson spoiled them.. They had some strong ass role players and did nothing to really build teams around them.. Andre Igudala, Lou Williams, Jude Holiday, Michael Carter-Williams, and Even Ben Simmons.. Philly has a way way of wasting talent I believe it’s karma for that shit with AI.. They owed him more loyalty than than…
6:39 Fultz was not a good pick, not at #1 overall.
His entire college career was an injury-shortened freshman season, where he played for the 2nd worst team in the PAC-12. That’s not somebody you hitch your franchise to, EVER.
Oh but his 3PT % was good… how’d that work out in the NBA? 27.4% career 3PT shooter 💀
I decided to root for a new hockey team this year in the playoffs because the... you know... the flyers. The team I adopted is about to get swept. 😮
You can't change your Fandom.
We hired the wrong coach. Doc Rivers destroyed Ben Simmons. MJ Fultz played for a 5-20 college team. Not a winning player
Process of elimination
I thought this last night🧐
The initial tank was a very good idea that became badly mismanaged as the years went on. No team with Jrue Holiday as its best player is contending for a title so let's not play Monday morning quarterback now that he's doing great in the finals as a supporting player. Trading Holiday allowed us to tank for Embiid and that is not a trade I would say "backfired." What "backfired" was having cheap, clueless owners who know fuck all about basketball. Having Jrue on this sinking ship instead of Embiid is not the thing to be mourning now, and how Jrue performs for a franchise that knows how to actually contend is irrelevant. Despite some of Embiid's shortcomings, he's still been one of the league's best players the last 5 seasons. Boston probably could've gotten this far with Embiid too and then some. Let's not act like we aren't just bogged down in decades of mediocre ownership, as if things would've been so different if we just "woulda, shoulda, coulda'd." The organization is simply mediocre. Too bad there hasn't been a Middleton/Lurie type owner for the Sixers since who even knows when.
I’m playing off-season quarterback and I’ll do it again 😂
Process made the team competitive at highest level. MVP on the team. Won a division. If you consider exciting top level basketball as a failure. The your going to be disappointed through life with the all or nothing attitude. Sixers have been constantly relevant due to the Process.
A chip would be nice. But it's also nice to be in that conversation year after year. Process= success. Just not #1
76ers only have 4 players inked, 2 starters, 2 bench, and they are still considered one of top teams. without even knowing who they sign. Process!
To me the process was a span of 2 and 1/2 years. It was born and died with Sam Hinkie. Everything after that was just the NBA punishing the 76ers and the front office constantly throwing assets away.
Celtics were just as bad as the Sixers at that time and choose building the team,fleecing teams in trades or outdraft teams..
The Celtics were in the Eastern Conference finals in 2017 what are you talking about..
yes
They have a elite front office fucccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
Building around Jrue Holiday and Andre Iguodala would have been a great idea
Would it have been though? Both are great role players on a championship team but neither could be the #1 on a championship team
@@nemohoes5923you just described the Sixers don’t know how to build a team looking for somebody to play 1vs5 and win a chip
@@nemohoes5923it was time too move on from Iggy. However Jrue for Nerlens appears to have been a mistake!
You can’t call the process of failure. I would grade it an incomplete because the NBA forced us to get rid of my boy Sam Hinkie. I think if Hinkie was able to orchestrate his complete plan for the process, we’d all be singing a different tune about how well it worked. I had absolutely no problem with the Sixers tanking. The worst thing you can be in the NBA is a stuck in limbo, perennial eighth seed destined to get smoked out of the first round of the playoffs by the top seed every year and then all you have to show for it is a mid first round pick that may or may not be a playable role player at best. Unless you are extremely lucky and wind up with Giannis, Devin Booker. Look at the Orlando magic and what an irrelevant dumpster fire of an organization that they have been since the Dwight Howard days. Is that what you want your 76ers to be because I sure as hell don’t. No thanks. I think if we surround Embiid and Maxey with just a competent supporting cast then we have as good as a chance as any other team in the league to win the whole thing barring injuries of course.
The process was a complete failure, the sixers have not had a real GM since Pat Williams. The failure starts with ownership not hiring the right people to build a championship NBA team. The sixers currently have star hunter and Nick Nurse (Glenn Rivers 2.0) Nurse is a little better but the same mentality. Nick Nurse's claim to fame is winning the championship with a healthy Kawhi Leonard and the Raptors did not win, nothing since he left the team.
We watch Tobias quit on the team and Nick Nurse did nothing but keep Ricky Council on the bench and KJ Martin. And to sum it up, Nick Nurse and star hunter would rather LOSE a playoff series then play young players that can help the team win, and that's SICK.
It is so sad now that the sixers fans will be happy if the sixers get out of the second round next season, it will be for them like winning the championship. I thought winning the championship is the prize, wow.
I’ll admit that Nick Nurse did not coach a good series against New York but you can’t compare him to Glenn Rivers. Nurse is a much better coach than Rivers overall in my opinion. Rivers was too stubborn and refused to make adjustments in a timely manner or if at all. I think that Nurse was a breath of fresh air compared to Rivers.
@@MarcS-mp1je Nick Nurse refused to put in Ricky Council or KJ Martin, that's a Glenn river's move and Nick Nurse did not adjust at all, he let Tobias stay out there.
We will see next season.
Isn’t it funny that Fultz and Simmons forgot how to shoot.,and your wrong on Fultz,don’t you think the Celtics would’ve taken him if he was all that and a bag of chips..Do you think that they wanted the Sixers to have another Andrew Toney..They know players,know how to trade,how to draft, how to run a team,know how to fix players…Sixers don’t know Jack
No the Celtics had Isiaha Thomas coming off an MVP runner-up season they were drafting for fit they didn’t want another point guard which is why they traded down. Nobody was talking about Tatum everybody was talking about Fultz.
Yes worst organization in modern sports since 2012
Little bit of a stretch. But I like the kenpachi profile pic
Since the late 80’s
The Sixers will always be in the process lol
You don't know nothing.if you don't have anything intelligent to say don't say it.
@@scottmars3191 oh man.. you sound hurt
Don't talk about the champs. Until you get one about Tatum. You could have had him and JB but horrible draft pick. Bye Philly yall are soft
I’ll talk about whatever I want and this is an entire clip slamming the Sixers so I’m not sure what you’re mad about 😭
Processed failed because it was never completed he got fired too soon lol we should of traded embiid forever ago and built around Ben Simmons with a fuck ton of shooters back when Ben was a good player
Not Fultz.. Deron Fox.. easy choice but Sixers are idiots
"Was the process an epic failure"?
Yes.
**End of video**
He'll the process is absolutely a failure
My biggest problem with modern fans and their takes on things like this there is little to no analysis being done. Yes ultimately "The Process" is a failure but can we analyse why other than just saying "Stinkie's plan was to fail for 5 years". Truth is the worst run of luck in the history of sports forced us into stinking for as long as we did. Joel missing 2 years, Noel, Ben and basically Fultz missing their first year and the fact that in both Ben and Markelle we have NEVER seen anything like their situations in the history of sports.
Markelle forgot how to do the most basic thing in basketball. Ben let the pressure of doing the most basic thing scare him into forgetting how to play basketball. Its truly as if we are cursed and yes the process was a failure but man did we have some bad luck.
Ben was the right pick (not made by Hinkie) IMO Markelle was obviously the right pick IMO but no one could see either of their mental issues coming it's the weirdest thing in pro sports history. Thankfully the basketball Gods smiled on us with Tyrese.
Clearly you commented without listening because you typed out everything I said…