@@Mr.Sax.I mean he can have it. But the best gm in basketball is Sam Presti and it’s not close. His only mistake of his career was the owners fault. Otherwise he’d have multiple titles and the greatest rebuild of all time.
@@YodaSmokes Who cares about that? Let's give Popovich or Spoelstra the COY award because they are the best coaches regardless of how their team performs, right? Seriously your comment is pointless here.
The Porzingis deal is the one where they committed highway robbery imo. Smart’s defensive impact was offset by his offensive limitations and they somehow swapped Smart for Porzingis AND a first round pick somehow with Porzingis having a career resurgence last year and being a fantastic floor spacer on a team that’s never had an elite floor spacer
I thought it was robbery at the time. People was stuck on porzingas injury history tho. Years ago i thought porzingas would be the perfect big to compliment the jays. His early knick days(i just never thought hed be available.) This was when he was getting propped up with Embid & AD, they need a big whose a scoring threat and shooting option. Porzingas effectively neutralizes most of the way teams have guarded the jays. Tatum and brown' biggest weakness to varying degrees(tatum is way ahead of JB here. But he has lapses still) is reading defensive coverages, when they are intiaiting plays. Porzingas simplifies everything for them. As an outlet, when theyre doubled. In the PNR Hes dangerous as a roller and popping out. I still cant believe there were celtics fans crying about losing Marcus "The thrower of bricks" Smart.
When the trade happened, i saw people crying about how boston built a "super team" for cheap, as if any other team couldnt scoop up Porzingus or Jrue for themselves💀. I really wonder what their trade market value was from other teams perspective
@@blablablaa14 Memphis wanting smart after the whole suspension thing with JA makes sense. But as for GMs, I would just expect multi-billion dollar organizations to hire people that can actually do the job right💀. And this goes for any team
@@philll.1358yeah it’s crazy that there’s still so many teams who are run by guys who make decisions based on how they “feel”. Literally every starter on the Celtics was the result of a robbery trade that the Celtics inflicted on another team.
@@philll.1358NBA teams have *always* been run in nepotism first, so some teams stay scrubs from “inbreeding talent”(Knicks, MJ’s Charlotte, Portland) , while others get lucky and generational talent luckily falls into their lap (Hakeem, Magic, Russell, LeBron, MJ). Like how in the hell did Bill Walton’s son get a head coaching job, long before guys who earned the respect from players (Denver’s Malone) for their coaching skills.
@@tim.noonan I'm talking bout with his extension.. he could've got more on the open market but he chose to sign an extension for a lot less with years he signed a 2 year
@@byranttaylor1535 With GM Jordan gone, nobody was going to offer anything significantly higher or longer. The Celtics extension is basically his market value. The risk of losing Porgie for the entire extension is one the Celtics can take, because they have enough picks & assets to get the Blazers, Pistons, or 2025 Warriors to take on his contract dump.
@cjwrench07 u dnt know that cause utah wanted him, Danny said he would've paid him, and an extension could've been a 4 year instead of a two we gave him
I used to have seriously problems with his game as a Celtics fan, but Payton Pritchard along with Luke kornet stepping up off the bench this year has been an incredibly underrated factor.
The Crypto Scammer, the Kondor, and Slam Hauser have each taken such enormous leaps in their game (especially since Slam Hauser is the BEST DUNKER IN THE ASSOCIATION). A joy to watch.
I honestly think Pritchard way the reason they were comfortable trading Smart in the first place. Either he was going to start or they would have gone big with White at the point and Rob and KP starting together and Pritchard as the 6th man. I think Brogden was gone either way. I don't think Jrue was ever really in their plans, but they couldn't pass up on that opportunity once it was there.
I hope they stay healthy and win it all this year. If all 5 of the starters have an off night then it's a close game, probably a loss. If they have an average night, it's an interesting win. If 2-3 have a good scoring night then it's not even close. That's why today I don't see any team beating the Celtics in a 7 game series.
Rick Gotham, the president of the Celtics, said that when Brad Stevens, the GM, came up to him and said that he thought he could get Holiday, his first thought was that Stevens was nuts, and his second was that they would win the championship.
Celtics front office have been the goats since the kg and ray trades. Even without a championship since 08 I think they always played things intelligently
@@crimsonguy723the Isaiah/kyrie trade was the correct trade even tho kyrie only played 2 seasons and is the most hated guy in boston. Isaiah got a hip injury in the 2017 playoffs and was never the same player ever again. If we don’t make the trade we have liability Isaiah, Jae crowder, and probably sexton I guess
@@HybridzProductionsTrue, I think the C's learned their lesson about acquiring small guards who are soft on defense. Those experiments seem to be over since Brad took over.
@@crimsonguy723 Isaiah and Kemba balled out dude. Don’t hate. Kyrie was a misfire because of who we now know he is as a person and player but in that moment in time, you go all in on a guy like that
Smart really in the big moments in the playoffs or last two minutes killed us by trying to play hero ball but I still love smart it won’t be the same winning a chip without him
@@ZZZ-pu4yw Jrue is fantastic defensively in the playoffs. Also, I don't think a 46% fg% in the regular season to a 41% fg% in the playoffs would constitute one of the worst playoff performers. He literally became the Dame stopper in the playoffs in 2018.
@ZZZ-pu4yw In Milwaukee, he was number the 2 or 3 option. In Boston he's arguably the 5th option for offense. That's a huge difference all Boston needs him to do is play defense and hit open shots. He had to do more in Milwaukee than he does here.
Jrue is the perfect complementary piece to a champion team. Rock solid, clutch and versatile defender, low usage rate, can score, assist, rebound. Dude is a humble hardworking great locker guy and do not whine. He is severely underrated because his stats does not compare to dame, steph, and other. He locked down superstars way more than he got cooked.
I think that if the bucks could take a mulligan on one move this year, it'd be firing Bud. They were desperate for some kind of reset and got rattled, but if they'd known they'd be able to pick up an all-nba talent and that Adrian Griffin wasn't wasn't going to work out they'd probably have settled for getting Dame. I get that a first round exit is really awful for a team that wants to win another title, but it kind of feels like the front office has been mashing the panic button ever since.
everyone ALSO overlooks that one of Bud's brothers literally died before game 4 of the miami series WHILE Giannis was hurt. just such a lack of awareness on the bucks' organizations part like, come on ya'll...
As a Celtics fan when we got Jrue there was no one who beats us in 7. The health wasn’t really a concern because we can coast KP can sit when we need him. Jrue is more efficient then smart and with the emergence of White we can cook any team wether or not Joe is a good coach. KP is the zone buster for Miami and Milwaukee low key ass and Phillys hurt.
Joe is a good coach. I don’t understand this narrative. People who actually know ball respect him as a basketball nerd and a student of the game. He’s not perfect but no one is. His team is #1 in offense and #2 in defense that’s not by accident
@@Toucansam46 Yeah. It is because he has the best top 6 both sides of the floor players in the roster by a significant margin (only Denver has a similar construction)
@@Edd_LShore yeah cause Giannis and Dame has worked out so well so far definitely had absolutely nothing to do with coaching. You’re a fool. This team is better BECAUSE of Joe just like it’s better BECAUSE of Tatum. Joe has these guys as the best offense, top 3 defense, best record in the league by a wide margin, they’re #1 in ATO shooting %, they are constantly seeking out mismatches on offense, Joe has them all working the post which has lead them to be the best post scoring team in the league as well as being a top 5 3 point shooting team, they have the 10th best Net rating of ALL TIME. None of that is in spite of Joe you literally just don’t know ball
This reminds me a lot of the 85-86 season. Coming off a shocking Finals loss to the Lakers, Boston knew they would still be major contenders in the 86 season, if they just stood pat. But, they went out and got Bill Walton, and made an already great team, into possibly the greatest single season team of all-time. I have been a Celtics fan my whole life, and the only other time I was as confident as I am right now, about winning the NBA Title, was that 86 season, going 50-1 at home, along the way. Even in 2008, with the arrival of Garnett, Allen, Posey, and House, and being far in front of everyone, all season, I wasn't nearly as confident because we had an unproven point-guard (Rajon Rondo), and an all-time oaf at center, Kendrick Perkins. (The Man With The Hands of Stone). Sorry Roberto Duran. This year, there are no such weaknesses. The bench was supposed to be our weakness, but before the deadline, Hauser, Pritchard, Horford and Kornet, were all playing their parts well. Now, with Xavier Tillman and Jaden Springer, the bench is even better.
I think on only felt more confident than before 85-86 this was for two days in June of 1986. After winning the 86 championship, the Celtics drafted number two overall and selected Len Bias, a player many projected to be better than Jordan. Len Bias died two days after being selected. In 87, Walton turned back into a pumpkin with glass ankles rather than glass slippers - then it was 22 years of decline and mediocracy. What a crazy turn of events.
@@markhousman8447 Then the double whammy, Reggie Lewis dying. Imagine the unlucky part of Bias dying, then the very next draft, getting Reggie, who was probably 85% of what Bias would've been, then he dies too. At least we got some good years out of him, though. As far as Bill Walton, my opinion has always been, that he got his much wanted championship in his first season as a Celtic, then milked it, after that. I saw a video recently, where Larry Bird even said, "Bill was healthy when Bill wanted to be healthy". I'll tell you one thing, in the 86-87 season that hurt us just as much as Walton not playing, and maybe even more, that nobody EVER talks about. Scott Wedman went down for the season, just a few games into that season. He was an extremely valuable piece off the bench, being able to play either forward position, and even some 2 guard if necessary. So instead of Walton coming in for Parish, it was Greg Kite, who was pathetic, and when Bird or McHale came out, instead of Wedman coming in, in was the all-time dork, Fred Roberts. The only reliable sub that was still there from the unstoppable 86 squad, was Jerry Sichting. KC Jones should've played Darren Daye much more than Fred Roberts. Daye was actually pretty good, but rarely got the playing time.
40-1 at home... or the math don't add up. this season should be another hot home court record (38-3..??). 8 games to go, only three 500+ teams visiting Boston... the toughest is arguably this wednesday vs the Bucks.
@@felipeb.9321 Hello, Yes, 40-1 in the regular season, the only loss in December of 85 to Portland, which wound up being the worst loss of the season. I think it was 18-19 points. But, they were 10-0 at home in the playoffs, so that's where the 50-1 comes from. If the Laker fans are going to count those titles won in Minneapolis, then I'm counting the 10 home playoff wins! As far as this season, they have been remarkable at home, something that has literally cost them the NBA Championship the last two seasons, because they struggled so mightily at home. It was something that ate my guts away. So this season, has been a dream at home. Two of the losses at home this year were absolutely unforgivable, though. I will tell you, that every single fan who attended the Clippers game in TD Garden, should have received a full refund for that game, with Boston being down by close to 50 at one point, and came in totally unprepared to play. Then losing to the Lakers, without LeRoid James, and Anthony Davis, is probably the most humiliating loss in franchise history. But, it looks as though they've rebounded rather nicely from those horrible losses. Yes, 38-3 would be nice, but they might let up off the gas, being so far ahead, for the best record.
@@jimmyjay689 with tatum and brown talking the bulk of the cap space next season and moving forward, you can't get someone with the range of jrue's salary anymore...
@@cdeleon3494he's going to hit a major offense wall soon and he's never been a great ball handler I think the bucks did what they needed to do to keep giannis in the best situation
@@jkole1202no he ain’t. His offense is role so low that he will be super efficient for a long time. Bt he is yall best passer and still an amazing defender
To all my Celtics fans, just a quick question--if we were to win the NBA Finals this year, would it be fair to say that a small but important contribution to this team's success was the spirit of Marcus Smart? Like yea, I know Smart drove us to extreme emotions of love and anger throughout his tenure, but b/c his value was high enough for us trade for KP (+ picks), it seems like the defensive intensity is always present at moments throughout the games, and throughout the season--like he never really left. Am I bugging or nah?
I love how Jaylen has become so much more confident and aggressive with his takes the hoop. So many more dunks from everybody but I see him yam a couple every game now
Everyone talking about “win or bust” just so they can say something negative about this team. We can’t just appreciate what they’re doing we have to spin it into a negative conversation about how they’re chokers if they lose. Why can’t we ever talk about this team without a “but”
Is it not win or bust? You can take that as a “negative” if you want, but it’s just true. The 2nd apron is coming, and when it does, this team will have basically no wiggle room. They have a great shot at a title, but it doesn’t change the fact that they’re all in.
As a Celtics fan, I still can't believe we got Jrue. DWhite and Jrue (collectively as the Stock Exchange) are the best defensive backcourt in the league.
Health is the main thing as you said, although I’d probably limit that down to KPs health. As for 3’s? Sure, but keep in mind that even if one or two players are having an off night, then there’s still more than enough others that can keep firing. The entire starting 5 can drop 3’s on a whim, then you still have Hauser and Pritchard coming off the bench. In saying all of that, both Holiday, Horford, KP, and Brown all did a great job posting up vs the Knick’s yesterday. But the team is way, way more than just the two big trades. They’ve had a bunch of players who have really, really stepped up. First and foremost is obviously DWhite. The dude is playing out of his mind and I reckon has to be a contender for MIP (although he played pretty well last year, so the step up probably isn’t big enough for MIP). Hauser and Pritchard again are brilliant off the bench. Luke Kornet, although obviously not at the same level as KP has filled his role perfectly. And backing up all of that has been Al Horford who can do pretty much anything you ask of him, bring a beautiful, calm presence to the locker room, and is one of the true unsung heroes of this team.
I think the Nuggets are a lower-variance team, due to less injury risk and more assisted shots at the rim. Even on difficult shots, I'll take an awkward Jokic floater over a contested Brown mid-range fallaway any day.
When Beal became available my immediate thought was “well where is porzingis going?” Because KP has ALWAYS been the missing piece. And then getting Jrue was just the icing on top of the cake. Still can’t believe bucks fans were saying Giannis>Tatum Dame>Brown Khris>KP 😂😂😂😂
I'm a Celtics fan but I would still take Giannis over Tatum. Dame vs. Brown is a toss up because Brown is bigger and has more offensive versatility and plays way better defense but Dame is Dame. I am taking KP over Khris hands down though. Then you have Jrue and White who are indisputably the best 4th and 5th options on any team right now.
This team is perfect for Porzingis, he doesn't have to do too much risky shit because he's tall and agile, he can do his thing and be a big body as a secondary defender, it's perfect.
Celtics offseason was perfect for me. All last year I was saying how Dwhite needed a bigger role and was being held back. Getting Porzingis and 2 first was a steal and it opened up Dwhites new role. Getting Jrue to pair with Dwhite was just the icing on the cake because Jrue fills smarts role and doesn't force anything. Jrue is shooting lights out from 3 in the corners and he can finish off the dribble drive.
@Edd-zd5wb this didn't age well, guy has 1 bad series and people try to hold it against him even after he dominated in 2021 finals now after being the #1 plus minus player for a second finals win while 50 40 95 in the playoffs n9w what will you say 😂
GREAT discussion! Tatum and Freak are tied 2 and 2 in playoff series so i CANT WAIT for the tiebreaker this year! Sam Cassell GREAT acquisition! WHOA! Mike Wilbon's current Bos squad to '86 Celtics comparison is WILD! and Three 50-point blowouts already is BANANAS! but it is ALL about playoffs!! LE'GO!!!!
Milwaukee would've been fine had they kept the original head coach this year or at least replaced him with literally any experienced coach NOT named Doc Rivers, that was what really hurt their chances this year
Prob with bucks is giannis he a point forward the reason it worked with Drew was because he wasn't brought in to score heavy points so he didn't need the ball all the time but dame yea it's not really the coach it's your superstar almost like he gotta change his game
As much as I love holiday I think KP is more important for us. He fills our biggest weakness which was a good defender against the elite big men (Giannis, embiid, jokic) and gives us the versatility on both sides of the ball to be a matchup nightmare and open up the paint if the defense chooses to put a big on him. If they have a smaller player switch on him he can basically have any three uncontested. White and holiday have been playing out of their fkn minds tho their offense is like poetry in motion
When Dame was traded to Milwaukie it became a 3 team race with Boston and Philly. You can argue which team was better. But after the Holiday trade and the way he and Porzingis have fit, it is clear which team is better.
Really this all started with gordon hayward. His injury led to the priority of brown and tatum leading to him leaving which gave boston a huge trade exception which they have used beautifully. I think they are one good bench wing away for being a perfect team
Celtics biggest issues last season was a log jam at guard and the Frontcourts ability to score. Horford is still excellent but was asked to do too much and play too many minutes for his age. Smart was still a really solid player but Dwhite was clearly out playing him but Smart made it impossible for Joe to go with the hot hand and Dwhite would end up on the bench a majority of the time in crunch time minutes which was absurd. Dwhite and Brodgon would have still been an excellent backcourt but when Jrue became available it was just a no brainer. Jrue knows what it takes to win it all and can accept his limited roles. Porzingis makes other teams pay for doubling Tatum and Brown and allows the Celtics to hunt mis matches because all 5 players on the floor can score from anywhere.
Thank you to the Bucks for breaking up your championship team by trading Holiday. The Bucks only needed to be patient and allow GIANNIS and MIDDLETON to heal from injury. There was no need to break up your team. The Bucks never won because of great offense; they won because of great defense.
There were Celtics fans that were mad when the Celtics traded Smart for Porzingis. They were mad about trading a 6’3” guard who was a great defender but a liability offensively for a 7 footer that could shoot and defend in the post 😂
@@byranttaylor1535 except not every team is : making 50% from 3 on a regular basis; at least 6 games ahead of every other team; 1st or 2nd offensive and defensive rating; 1st in win record against 500+ teams; breaking the NBA's offensive rating record; etc., etc., etc., because if they were, that team would be already in the playoffs a month before the end of the regular season. so that claim that you think is "funny" is backed up by 66 games of facts and winning.
There had to be some under the table deals here. How Celtics were able to trade a regressing asset in Smart for Kristaps who was fresh off a career year averaging 23/8/3 and 2 FIRST ROUND PICKS makes no logical sense. Not to mention the Jrue deal. Something looks so sketchy here
I think KP is the 🗝️. He used to first or second option. Now is used third or fourth. Where he does work so hard and doesn't get hurt. Plus Holiday is so underrated smart player.
Yup. Most teams seriously think about not adding players they're trading away to contenders in their own conference precisely for this reason. The idea is always to move their star they're trading away to the other conference. Only this time he accidentally boomeranged back around. Maybe they should have made sure he went to a contender in the West to reduce that likelihood. They knew Portland would turnaround and trade him, and the teams looking to get him would be contenders in the East. We can't second guess too much, though, because it seems like there really was nowhere to send him.
Brad improve this bench better than they I've seen in recent years, I think they have what it takes to go far and make it back to finals the biggest thing difference in this team is they are protected the ball and not committing Turnover and they re winning games they shouldn't lose compared to last year they would lose games they should win.
First off , I thought the video was fair . As a Bucks fan of course it would have been best for him to go to a Western team playing for rings , That said Boston was always going to be the team to beat for The bucks to get out of the East so "big picture" it didn't really change anything. Then you have to factor in what was said at the end of the video , Let's say The Bucks don't make the move and Dame goes to The Heat , to me that would have been even worse for The Bucks. As is , again as a Bucks fan I really am still more worried about The Heat Shooting light out again with Jimmy Buckets stealing games Then Boston. My biggest question with Boston is how much does "big Al" still have left in him because he is been able to slow down Giannis better then most. Porzingis a bit a of wild card but I really see him not playing well vrs The Bucks or being a factor as much vrs other teams they play. This is why I still fear "Big AL" , they traded away all there other "Giannis stoppers" and Porzingis is not going to be able to guard Giannis . Giannis wants it bad this year and he is going to be going hard,
IF the Celtics make their 3’s; that’s so true 🤦♂️😭 it’s funny cause when Tatum misses 3’s it just looks way worse cause his shot is so dam ugly 😂 it’s like he’s being electrocuted from his legs up to his arms. Holiday was a great addition for Celtics. However it took a bit-it wasn’t an immediate game changer. Portzingus was the best possible trade / Marcus smart was a cancer imo. Celtics have a talented deep bench- the role players stepping up this year such as Derek white- he’s been an absolute beast. Prichard and Hauser are true sharp shooters-they got a monster in Kornet contesting every shot 😂 the Celtics 2nd team is better than most starting lineups.
Celtics have gone 12-2 since this video with both losses coming by a total of 7 points and every win but 1 being double digits while resting a revolving door of starters basically every night for the past 2 weeks. With only two more games against top tier opponents (vs OKC on April 3rd and @ MIL on the 9th) and no more back-to-backs do the Celtics close out the season 9-2 and go 66-16? It'll be interesting to see Joe mixing and mashing these line ups the next 3 weeks as we wrap up the NBA season to try to keep everyone fresh and healthy for the post season. And like you said, if the shots are falling, this is a team that is not easy to beat.
the celtics are now the only team on par with denver, but they gotta beat denver to be considered the best team in the league. that would be a sick finals though
Marcus smart was always holding this Celtics team back because he is so limited offensively Getting Holiday as a 2 way guy covered all of the Celtics weaknesses on offense Smart could never play make and creat his own shot like holiday can
Rob Will was significant, but couldn’t be relied on because of injuries. Brogdon was really disappointing in the playoffs, although he ended up getting an injury, he was underwhelming come playoffs. Compared to the impact a guy like Jrue has they were not significant.
@@Edd_LShore how the bucks win that ring??? Ain’t it Jrue steal leading to giannis open court dunk??? Jrue doesn’t suck in the playoffs. The bucks needed him to be a 3rd scorer because kris is so injury prone. Jrue is what, the 5th scorer on this team? Lmao your take SUCKS
@@MahcusSmahrt36 Jrue Holiday SUCKS in the playoffs, not just with the Bucks. And Middleton wasnt injury prone. He was clutch in their ring year. And they won with Giannis becoming an all time great and clutch Middleton shots, not with Holiday shooting 4-20 every other night.
Nailed it. Jrue is the key to the championship. Everything else needs to be in place just to get there but having Jrue is the difference between getting there and winning it all. Again, take away anyone else and Celtics don't even get to the championship but Jrue gets them over the hump.
So many Celtics fans were crying when we traded smart, but I was actually extremely happy because yes I loved him, but he gave us all of his prime years so it was a smart, business choice. To bring in a motivated Porzingis, who still wants to prove to the league why he is the unicorn. Injuries were behind him and we are getting him at his absolute prime. Milwaukee made a stupid decision getting rid of holiday. I would rather have holiday than Damian Lillard. Yeah, Lillard might score 7 points more, but might get those certain steals during a game that you need and still put up 25 points.
Sorry but had to stop at 5:50 because it was just like the 10th time repeating the same 2 points over and over again. This is a 2 minute video of an opinion without much behind it. Which is fine, but most people would be more impressed with the KP trade or Derrick White's contributions this year than Holiday's.
One of the most interesting aspects of the trade is that Holiday is one of the most effective defenders against Dame. That could matter if Boston and Milwaukee end up in a playoff series. You gotta assume Holiday would play his heart out in that series.
I literally agreed dirty everything you said . The bucks tried being the Lakers and karma came and slapped us in the face. Ya when this happened and he went to Boston I was like might as well hand them the Larry O'Brian trophy now
I love Jrue. I want him back next year and he should be the anchor to the second unit. Instead of trying to shoehorn him into the starters let the man cook with the second unit
I don't think Jrue Holiday is what changed the celtics, its KP who is a rim defender + 3p shooter. Once they had that it was game over. Jrue is just cherry on top
Not true. I used to say this in real time. Smart is literally the reason the celtics lost to any high level basketball team. In the 4th quarter, leave smart wide open. Hes going to shoot it or drive and turn it over because hes going to be trying to prove something. But use his man to double team either tatum or brown. The heat and the warriors basically ran the same play book on defense. Play physical with the jays. Stay close to horford so hes not wide open. Doube off of smart. Watch him implode. Smart is a tough bastard. And i wont ever say he didnt play his heart out. But he was out of control way too often. I dont think its a surprise how much calmer the team plays. He was an extremely bipolar player and alot of antics got in the way of the team. His blood feud with the refs. All the flopping and falling amd rolling around. His endless three point barrage while also being the worst shooter on the team and one of the worst shooters of all time.
@@zakking4983 Doesnt matter. Watch his playoffs numbers. He shots 45% from three when it doesnt matter and as soon as it does and defense increases hes literally Marcus Smart
Celtics fans might not want to admit that, but from the outside, his offensive decision making was clearly costing them games and was so bad that I don’t know if the defense he was bringing to the table was actually worth it. The grizz trade still doesn’t make sense to me, only explanation I have was the GM never watched the Celtics and just heard about smart getting a DPOY so he pulled the trigger on the trade.
Celtics were already a top tier contender, and they added guys who immediately became their 3rd and 4th best player, without giving up their top 3 players from the year before.
this reminds me somewhat of the Warriors when they got KD. JD ain’t KD but it’s just a perfectly put together team that drafted, traded and signed their way into success. they didn’t do what the Nets or Clippers did and just buy a team
What I like about BOS is they have guys who are happy with winning games and playing good basketball. They don’t have a lot of the extra stuff that many of the teams around the league have to deal with.
Except Taytum, playing on a hilariously stacked team, built entirely by ripping the rest of the league off, playing career low minutes and shot attempts, complaining he's getting no MVP attention.
To be fair the Celtics gave up Brogdon and Rob Williams who were originally supposed to be rotational pieces. In hind sight of course it seems like a very low price to pay but that’s not how it was when the deal was made.
This video should've been done when they actually won something. It doesn't matter what move someone does unless it leads to a championship (or be a good team if you're a tanking team)
Youre acting like Boston gave up a bunch of bums for Jrue. They gave up significant rotation pieces in Rob Williams and the reigning 6MOY in Brogdon not to mention that pick too.
Did everyone forget why the Bucks got rid of Holiday? What his big flaw is? This happens with Hardan and Embiid too. They look awesome during the regular season and people with short memories hoot and holler about how great they are and then the playoffs come and these 3 shrivel up. Why do we have to do this every season?
People get traded to rivals of their original team. Roger Clemens left the Red Sox to go to Toronto, then got traded to the Yankees. I remember that one and I'm sure there were others. The Yankees also do what the Celtics used to do in the 50s, 60s, 70s and 80s, and that is getting a big star for nothing. The Celtics once traded rookie Darren Tillis to Cleveland for al.-star Scott Wedman and they traded Joe Barry Carroll for Robert Parrish and a first round pick (Kevin McHale) as well as traded Rick Robey to Phoenix for Dennis Johnson. It all came back to bite them. When Reggie Lewis passed away, they asked the league if they could give his widow the money remaining on his contract so they could free up cap space to get another player of some value. That request was denied.
The crazier thing is, the players they traded are all injured and the players Celtics acquired are relatively healthy. Winning has affected it I’m sure but still
Celtics were basically swapping a great defensive guard/motor in smart to try and get another star in porzingis and then got a better version of smart for what feels like free
if my celtics win the title this year brad stevens deserves finals mvp
No but seriously, if he doesn't win executive of the year then that award is a joke.
As a bucks fan, I couldn't be more upset. I had so much hope
Even if we dont win i dont see any way hes not it @Mr.Sax.
@@Mr.Sax.I mean he can have it. But the best gm in basketball is Sam Presti and it’s not close. His only mistake of his career was the owners fault. Otherwise he’d have multiple titles and the greatest rebuild of all time.
@@YodaSmokes Who cares about that? Let's give Popovich or Spoelstra the COY award because they are the best coaches regardless of how their team performs, right?
Seriously your comment is pointless here.
The Porzingis deal is the one where they committed highway robbery imo. Smart’s defensive impact was offset by his offensive limitations and they somehow swapped Smart for Porzingis AND a first round pick somehow with Porzingis having a career resurgence last year and being a fantastic floor spacer on a team that’s never had an elite floor spacer
I see no lies here
they got 2 first round picks
I was hoping the Warriors got him but I'm just glad he's finally on a contender.
I thought it was robbery at the time. People was stuck on porzingas injury history tho. Years ago i thought porzingas would be the perfect big to compliment the jays. His early knick days(i just never thought hed be available.) This was when he was getting propped up with Embid & AD, they need a big whose a scoring threat and shooting option. Porzingas effectively neutralizes most of the way teams have guarded the jays. Tatum and brown' biggest weakness to varying degrees(tatum is way ahead of JB here. But he has lapses still) is reading defensive coverages, when they are intiaiting plays. Porzingas simplifies everything for them. As an outlet, when theyre doubled. In the PNR Hes dangerous as a roller and popping out. I still cant believe there were celtics fans crying about losing Marcus "The thrower of bricks" Smart.
Yep. I was wanting denver to trade mpj for KP...
When the trade happened, i saw people crying about how boston built a "super team" for cheap, as if any other team couldnt scoop up Porzingus or Jrue for themselves💀. I really wonder what their trade market value was from other teams perspective
I remember the media still saying the Bucks were going to be better and that NOBODY was built to stop Dame/Giannis P+R 😂
Should have been higher, but the NBA has a lot less teams who think strategically than you think. Memphis wanted Smart, wrap your mind around that
@@blablablaa14 Memphis wanting smart after the whole suspension thing with JA makes sense. But as for GMs, I would just expect multi-billion dollar organizations to hire people that can actually do the job right💀. And this goes for any team
@@philll.1358yeah it’s crazy that there’s still so many teams who are run by guys who make decisions based on how they “feel”. Literally every starter on the Celtics was the result of a robbery trade that the Celtics inflicted on another team.
@@philll.1358NBA teams have *always* been run in nepotism first, so some teams stay scrubs from “inbreeding talent”(Knicks, MJ’s Charlotte, Portland) , while others get lucky and generational talent luckily falls into their lap (Hakeem, Magic, Russell, LeBron, MJ).
Like how in the hell did Bill Walton’s son get a head coaching job, long before guys who earned the respect from players (Denver’s Malone) for their coaching skills.
As a Boston fan, We Love Holiday!
yes
As a milwaukee fan, we miss that guy very much. Glad he’s doing well in boston
We miss him and the whole family in Milwaukee.
As a Boston fan, I second this!
He busted his a..for rebounds and other things to win for the team. At his age, a gem
Porzingis was essentially a free agent. Just had to create salary cap space by trading salary away to fit him
Yea but he also took less to be here and they look so happy together
@@byranttaylor1535He didn’t take less, he was traded there. The Celtics never negotiated with Porzingis to make the deal happen.
@@tim.noonan I'm talking bout with his extension.. he could've got more on the open market but he chose to sign an extension for a lot less with years he signed a 2 year
@@byranttaylor1535 With GM Jordan gone, nobody was going to offer anything significantly higher or longer. The Celtics extension is basically his market value.
The risk of losing Porgie for the entire extension is one the Celtics can take, because they have enough picks & assets to get the Blazers, Pistons, or 2025 Warriors to take on his contract dump.
@cjwrench07 u dnt know that cause utah wanted him, Danny said he would've paid him, and an extension could've been a 4 year instead of a two we gave him
I used to have seriously problems with his game as a Celtics fan, but Payton Pritchard along with Luke kornet stepping up off the bench this year has been an incredibly underrated factor.
Sam Cassell has worked dark and terrible magic on Payton's game. Kid is playing like he's 35, it's amazing.
PP has always been elite. You’re a dumb casual if it took you this long to realize that
The Crypto Scammer, the Kondor, and Slam Hauser have each taken such enormous leaps in their game (especially since Slam Hauser is the BEST DUNKER IN THE ASSOCIATION). A joy to watch.
I honestly think Pritchard way the reason they were comfortable trading Smart in the first place. Either he was going to start or they would have gone big with White at the point and Rob and KP starting together and Pritchard as the 6th man. I think Brogden was gone either way. I don't think Jrue was ever really in their plans, but they couldn't pass up on that opportunity once it was there.
Facts bro pp is nasty . He’d regularly start on any other team
I still can’t believe Boston won the dame trade
Patrick Beverley to Marcus Smart to Jrue Holiday is like a Pokemon evolution trio
😂😂 i luv it
True and as a Celtics fan my entire life, I miss smart, but holiday is literally the better version of him 😂
I wish I could like this 3 times lol
I hope they stay healthy and win it all this year.
If all 5 of the starters have an off night then it's a close game, probably a loss.
If they have an average night, it's an interesting win.
If 2-3 have a good scoring night then it's not even close.
That's why today I don't see any team beating the Celtics in a 7 game series.
Rick Gotham, the president of the Celtics, said that when Brad Stevens, the GM, came up to him and said that he thought he could get Holiday, his first thought was that Stevens was nuts, and his second was that they would win the championship.
Celtics front office have been the goats since the kg and ray trades. Even without a championship since 08 I think they always played things intelligently
Except for Isaiah, Kyrie and Kemba?
@@crimsonguy723the Isaiah/kyrie trade was the correct trade even tho kyrie only played 2 seasons and is the most hated guy in boston. Isaiah got a hip injury in the 2017 playoffs and was never the same player ever again. If we don’t make the trade we have liability Isaiah, Jae crowder, and probably sexton I guess
@@crimsonguy723 No one could've forseen the kyrie era going down the way it did.
@@HybridzProductionsTrue, I think the C's learned their lesson about acquiring small guards who are soft on defense. Those experiments seem to be over since Brad took over.
@@crimsonguy723 Isaiah and Kemba balled out dude. Don’t hate. Kyrie was a misfire because of who we now know he is as a person and player but in that moment in time, you go all in on a guy like that
Smart really in the big moments in the playoffs or last two minutes killed us by trying to play hero ball but I still love smart it won’t be the same winning a chip without him
Jrue holiday is one of the worst playoff performers last 10 years do you even realize that
@@ZZZ-pu4yw yea except he won’t be trying to play hero ball and driving into a crowded lane with 3 defenders and get stripped
@@Volssolo i have bad news for you he does the same shit atleast he did it with the bucks he also takes the dumbest 3s possible
@@ZZZ-pu4yw Jrue is fantastic defensively in the playoffs. Also, I don't think a 46% fg% in the regular season to a 41% fg% in the playoffs would constitute one of the worst playoff performers. He literally became the Dame stopper in the playoffs in 2018.
@ZZZ-pu4yw In Milwaukee, he was number the 2 or 3 option. In Boston he's arguably the 5th option for offense. That's a huge difference all Boston needs him to do is play defense and hit open shots. He had to do more in Milwaukee than he does here.
Jrue is the perfect complementary piece to a champion team. Rock solid, clutch and versatile defender, low usage rate, can score, assist, rebound. Dude is a humble hardworking great locker guy and do not whine. He is severely underrated because his stats does not compare to dame, steph, and other. He locked down superstars way more than he got cooked.
He provides more value than Dame.
I think that if the bucks could take a mulligan on one move this year, it'd be firing Bud. They were desperate for some kind of reset and got rattled, but if they'd known they'd be able to pick up an all-nba talent and that Adrian Griffin wasn't wasn't going to work out they'd probably have settled for getting Dame. I get that a first round exit is really awful for a team that wants to win another title, but it kind of feels like the front office has been mashing the panic button ever since.
Very very good points
everyone ALSO overlooks that one of Bud's brothers literally died before game 4 of the miami series WHILE Giannis was hurt. just such a lack of awareness on the bucks' organizations part like, come on ya'll...
Firing Bud was a huge misstep. The dude lost his brother in the middle of a playoff run and that probably had a huge impact on his decision making.
Ya exactly
@zahir12344 or lack there of. He messed up by coming into work. He should let assistant coach.
As a Celtics fan when we got Jrue there was no one who beats us in 7. The health wasn’t really a concern because we can coast KP can sit when we need him. Jrue is more efficient then smart and with the emergence of White we can cook any team wether or not Joe is a good coach. KP is the zone buster for Miami and Milwaukee low key ass and Phillys hurt.
Cool down. A lot of time for Tatum and Brown meltdowns.
Joe is a good coach. I don’t understand this narrative. People who actually know ball respect him as a basketball nerd and a student of the game. He’s not perfect but no one is. His team is #1 in offense and #2 in defense that’s not by accident
@@Toucansam46 Yeah. It is because he has the best top 6 both sides of the floor players in the roster by a significant margin (only Denver has a similar construction)
Don’t say “whether or not Joe is a good coach.” He’s an excellent coach, this noise needs to stop.
@@Edd_LShore yeah cause Giannis and Dame has worked out so well so far definitely had absolutely nothing to do with coaching. You’re a fool. This team is better BECAUSE of Joe just like it’s better BECAUSE of Tatum. Joe has these guys as the best offense, top 3 defense, best record in the league by a wide margin, they’re #1 in ATO shooting %, they are constantly seeking out mismatches on offense, Joe has them all working the post which has lead them to be the best post scoring team in the league as well as being a top 5 3 point shooting team, they have the 10th best Net rating of ALL TIME. None of that is in spite of Joe you literally just don’t know ball
This reminds me a lot of the 85-86 season. Coming off a shocking Finals loss to the Lakers, Boston knew they would still be major contenders in the 86 season, if they just stood pat. But, they went out and got Bill Walton, and made an already great team, into possibly the greatest single season team of all-time. I have been a Celtics fan my whole life, and the only other time I was as confident as I am right now, about winning the NBA Title, was that 86 season, going 50-1 at home, along the way. Even in 2008, with the arrival of Garnett, Allen, Posey, and House, and being far in front of everyone, all season, I wasn't nearly as confident because we had an unproven point-guard (Rajon Rondo), and an all-time oaf at center, Kendrick Perkins. (The Man With The Hands of Stone). Sorry Roberto Duran. This year, there are no such weaknesses. The bench was supposed to be our weakness, but before the deadline, Hauser, Pritchard, Horford and Kornet, were all playing their parts well. Now, with Xavier Tillman and Jaden Springer, the bench is even better.
I think on only felt more confident than before 85-86 this was for two days in June of 1986. After winning the 86 championship, the Celtics drafted number two overall and selected Len Bias, a player many projected to be better than Jordan. Len Bias died two days after being selected. In 87, Walton turned back into a pumpkin with glass ankles rather than glass slippers - then it was 22 years of decline and mediocracy. What a crazy turn of events.
Good retrospection regarding the bench, just exactly what I have caught myself thinking lately...
@@markhousman8447 Then the double whammy, Reggie Lewis dying. Imagine the unlucky part of Bias dying, then the very next draft, getting Reggie, who was probably 85% of what Bias would've been, then he dies too. At least we got some good years out of him, though.
As far as Bill Walton, my opinion has always been, that he got his much wanted championship in his first season as a Celtic, then milked it, after that. I saw a video recently, where Larry Bird even said, "Bill was healthy when Bill wanted to be healthy". I'll tell you one thing, in the 86-87 season that hurt us just as much as Walton not playing, and maybe even more, that nobody EVER talks about. Scott Wedman went down for the season, just a few games into that season. He was an extremely valuable piece off the bench, being able to play either forward position, and even some 2 guard if necessary.
So instead of Walton coming in for Parish, it was Greg Kite, who was pathetic, and when Bird or McHale came out, instead of Wedman coming in, in was the all-time dork, Fred Roberts. The only reliable sub that was still there from the unstoppable 86 squad, was Jerry Sichting. KC Jones should've played Darren Daye much more than Fred Roberts. Daye was actually pretty good, but rarely got the playing time.
40-1 at home... or the math don't add up.
this season should be another hot home court record (38-3..??). 8 games to go, only three 500+ teams visiting Boston... the toughest is arguably this wednesday vs the Bucks.
@@felipeb.9321 Hello, Yes, 40-1 in the regular season, the only loss in December of 85 to Portland, which wound up being the worst loss of the season. I think it was 18-19 points. But, they were 10-0 at home in the playoffs, so that's where the 50-1 comes from. If the Laker fans are going to count those titles won in Minneapolis, then I'm counting the 10 home playoff wins! As far as this season, they have been remarkable at home, something that has literally cost them the NBA Championship the last two seasons, because they struggled so mightily at home. It was something that ate my guts away. So this season, has been a dream at home. Two of the losses at home this year were absolutely unforgivable, though. I will tell you, that every single fan who attended the Clippers game in TD Garden, should have received a full refund for that game, with Boston being down by close to 50 at one point, and came in totally unprepared to play. Then losing to the Lakers, without LeRoid James, and Anthony Davis, is probably the most humiliating loss in franchise history. But, it looks as though they've rebounded rather nicely from those horrible losses. Yes, 38-3 would be nice, but they might let up off the gas, being so far ahead, for the best record.
Executive of the Year
It's championship or bust for the celtics now as the 2nd apron is coming
We can let jrue walk and not blink an eye
@@jimmyjay689 with tatum and brown talking the bulk of the cap space next season and moving forward, you can't get someone with the range of jrue's salary anymore...
@@cdeleon3494he's going to hit a major offense wall soon and he's never been a great ball handler I think the bucks did what they needed to do to keep giannis in the best situation
@@jkole1202 nobody talks about how Jrue is a big playoff dropper is so funny to me
@@jkole1202no he ain’t. His offense is role so low that he will be super efficient for a long time. Bt he is yall best passer and still an amazing defender
To all my Celtics fans, just a quick question--if we were to win the NBA Finals this year, would it be fair to say that a small but important contribution to this team's success was the spirit of Marcus Smart? Like yea, I know Smart drove us to extreme emotions of love and anger throughout his tenure, but b/c his value was high enough for us trade for KP (+ picks), it seems like the defensive intensity is always present at moments throughout the games, and throughout the season--like he never really left. Am I bugging or nah?
I love how Jaylen has become so much more confident and aggressive with his takes the hoop. So many more dunks from everybody but I see him yam a couple every game now
Same with Tatum. He seems to be more aggressive and going to the basket rather than shoot the 3
This aged well lol !!!
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Yes it did
Everyone talking about “win or bust” just so they can say something negative about this team. We can’t just appreciate what they’re doing we have to spin it into a negative conversation about how they’re chokers if they lose. Why can’t we ever talk about this team without a “but”
Because the regular season means jack shit.
It's championship or bust due to contract situations.
Pay attention, kid.
Is it not win or bust? You can take that as a “negative” if you want, but it’s just true. The 2nd apron is coming, and when it does, this team will have basically no wiggle room. They have a great shot at a title, but it doesn’t change the fact that they’re all in.
@@patrickoakley7890regular season wins are the knicks’ championships because they wont ever even sniff the finals
@@Averagedre > irrelevant drivel
what does any of that have to do with Miami and Golden State making Boston their prison bitch?
As a Celtics fan, I still can't believe we got Jrue. DWhite and Jrue (collectively as the Stock Exchange) are the best defensive backcourt in the league.
This is a make or break season for the Celtics.
It's not like they're going to blow it up if it doesn't work
Hard to say cause we still have trouble with warriors, clipps got 3 stars nuggets out the east yes but chip gonna b tuff
@@byranttaylor1535warriors aren’t getting past the 1st round
Celtics won the nba championship
Health is the main thing as you said, although I’d probably limit that down to KPs health. As for 3’s? Sure, but keep in mind that even if one or two players are having an off night, then there’s still more than enough others that can keep firing. The entire starting 5 can drop 3’s on a whim, then you still have Hauser and Pritchard coming off the bench.
In saying all of that, both Holiday, Horford, KP, and Brown all did a great job posting up vs the Knick’s yesterday.
But the team is way, way more than just the two big trades. They’ve had a bunch of players who have really, really stepped up. First and foremost is obviously DWhite. The dude is playing out of his mind and I reckon has to be a contender for MIP (although he played pretty well last year, so the step up probably isn’t big enough for MIP). Hauser and Pritchard again are brilliant off the bench. Luke Kornet, although obviously not at the same level as KP has filled his role perfectly. And backing up all of that has been Al Horford who can do pretty much anything you ask of him, bring a beautiful, calm presence to the locker room, and is one of the true unsung heroes of this team.
I think the Nuggets are a lower-variance team, due to less injury risk and more assisted shots at the rim. Even on difficult shots, I'll take an awkward Jokic floater over a contested Brown mid-range fallaway any day.
When Beal became available my immediate thought was “well where is porzingis going?” Because KP has ALWAYS been the missing piece. And then getting Jrue was just the icing on top of the cake. Still can’t believe bucks fans were saying Giannis>Tatum
Dame>Brown
Khris>KP
😂😂😂😂
I'm a Celtics fan but I would still take Giannis over Tatum. Dame vs. Brown is a toss up because Brown is bigger and has more offensive versatility and plays way better defense but Dame is Dame. I am taking KP over Khris hands down though. Then you have Jrue and White who are indisputably the best 4th and 5th options on any team right now.
what else can they say?? it's either bravado or crying they eyes out. 🤣🤣🤣
Jrue Holiday traded for Malcolm Brogdon and Robert Williams....Brogdans having a great yr...this teams lethal no matter how u slice it
Facts 💯
This team is perfect for Porzingis, he doesn't have to do too much risky shit because he's tall and agile, he can do his thing and be a big body as a secondary defender, it's perfect.
Celtics offseason was perfect for me. All last year I was saying how Dwhite needed a bigger role and was being held back. Getting Porzingis and 2 first was a steal and it opened up Dwhites new role. Getting Jrue to pair with Dwhite was just the icing on the cake because Jrue fills smarts role and doesn't force anything. Jrue is shooting lights out from 3 in the corners and he can finish off the dribble drive.
If all their players make all their shots and play well and stay healthy they will win? Expert analysis there. You could say that about any team
Lol.
Basically if everyone team plays how they should, Celtics are the best team
@@JonahCannon-jj9qz Nah. Nuggets clears Celtics. Bad match up. Unless Jrue Holiday doesnt suck in the playoffs. But history says he will
@Edd-zd5wb this didn't age well, guy has 1 bad series and people try to hold it against him even after he dominated in 2021 finals now after being the #1 plus minus player for a second finals win while 50 40 95 in the playoffs n9w what will you say 😂
GREAT discussion!
Tatum and Freak are tied 2 and 2 in playoff series so i CANT WAIT for the tiebreaker this year!
Sam Cassell GREAT acquisition!
WHOA! Mike Wilbon's current Bos squad to '86 Celtics comparison is WILD! and Three 50-point blowouts already is BANANAS! but it is ALL about playoffs!! LE'GO!!!!
Jrue has 66%!! of coner 3 points in this season!! Total rate is also 44%!!
Milwaukee would've been fine had they kept the original head coach this year or at least replaced him with literally any experienced coach NOT named Doc Rivers, that was what really hurt their chances this year
Prob with bucks is giannis he a point forward the reason it worked with Drew was because he wasn't brought in to score heavy points so he didn't need the ball all the time but dame yea it's not really the coach it's your superstar almost like he gotta change his game
Holiday was perfect for Boston. He was the best player in several games this playoff run.
As much as I love holiday I think KP is more important for us. He fills our biggest weakness which was a good defender against the elite big men (Giannis, embiid, jokic) and gives us the versatility on both sides of the ball to be a matchup nightmare and open up the paint if the defense chooses to put a big on him. If they have a smaller player switch on him he can basically have any three uncontested. White and holiday have been playing out of their fkn minds tho their offense is like poetry in motion
When Dame was traded to Milwaukie it became a 3 team race with Boston and Philly. You can argue which team was better. But after the Holiday trade and the way he and Porzingis have fit, it is clear which team is better.
People sleep on the heat every year, heat > Philly 100%
here after game 3. Celtics did great business with this trade
Really this all started with gordon hayward. His injury led to the priority of brown and tatum leading to him leaving which gave boston a huge trade exception which they have used beautifully. I think they are one good bench wing away for being a perfect team
In chess terms, the bucks got check on the Celtics, and the Celtics used that check to get checkmate in 1 move on the bucks lmao
😊 Excellent nice simple analogy. Hope you’re right about the checkmate
Celtics biggest issues last season was a log jam at guard and the Frontcourts ability to score. Horford is still excellent but was asked to do too much and play too many minutes for his age. Smart was still a really solid player but Dwhite was clearly out playing him but Smart made it impossible for Joe to go with the hot hand and Dwhite would end up on the bench a majority of the time in crunch time minutes which was absurd. Dwhite and Brodgon would have still been an excellent backcourt but when Jrue became available it was just a no brainer. Jrue knows what it takes to win it all and can accept his limited roles. Porzingis makes other teams pay for doubling Tatum and Brown and allows the Celtics to hunt mis matches because all 5 players on the floor can score from anywhere.
Thank you to the Bucks for breaking up your championship team by trading Holiday. The Bucks only needed to be patient and allow GIANNIS and MIDDLETON to heal from injury. There was no need to break up your team. The Bucks never won because of great offense; they won because of great defense.
Facts in fact they shud of let jru b the 4th option behind Lopez cuz when he's not top 3 he can be more efficient. I blame that on coaching
I have been saying this ever since this trade happen.
There were Celtics fans that were mad when the Celtics traded Smart for Porzingis. They were mad about trading a 6’3” guard who was a great defender but a liability offensively for a 7 footer that could shoot and defend in the post 😂
And in the end the Celtics won the championship
All 5 starting members are two way threat…Jrue and white are top2 defensive guards on a same team and JT and JB are a top 3 two way duo in the league
this video aged well
A home run for Boston. If the Lakers "are healthy and make all their 3's ... they will win the title"
Haahaaaaaa I said the same thing I'm like that argument is for every team haahaaaaa
@@byranttaylor1535 🙂🙂
@@byranttaylor1535 except not every team is : making 50% from 3 on a regular basis; at least 6 games ahead of every other team; 1st or 2nd offensive and defensive rating; 1st in win record against 500+ teams; breaking the NBA's offensive rating record; etc., etc., etc., because if they were, that team would be already in the playoffs a month before the end of the regular season.
so that claim that you think is "funny" is backed up by 66 games of facts and winning.
Amazing moves by Boston but idk if Tatum is THAT guy in the clutch. Definitely see them winning the east
There had to be some under the table deals here. How Celtics were able to trade a regressing asset in Smart for Kristaps who was fresh off a career year averaging 23/8/3 and 2 FIRST ROUND PICKS makes no logical sense. Not to mention the Jrue deal. Something looks so sketchy here
I just subscribed, keep posting man.I get a lot of The flight mike vibes from you! #goodcontent
Brad Stevens DESERVE Executive of the Year 💯
Deserves#
@@jonathanfrimerman8855 yeah 😤😤😤
I think KP is the 🗝️. He used to first or second option. Now is used third or fourth. Where he does work so hard and doesn't get hurt. Plus Holiday is so underrated smart player.
Yup. Most teams seriously think about not adding players they're trading away to contenders in their own conference precisely for this reason. The idea is always to move their star they're trading away to the other conference. Only this time he accidentally boomeranged back around. Maybe they should have made sure he went to a contender in the West to reduce that likelihood. They knew Portland would turnaround and trade him, and the teams looking to get him would be contenders in the East. We can't second guess too much, though, because it seems like there really was nowhere to send him.
Your videos always hit bro keep it up
If Kristaps Porzingis stay healthy this season & consistent 2024 playoffs Boston big chance get #18 banner 💪💪💪
Brad improve this bench better than they I've seen in recent years, I think they have what it takes to go far and make it back to finals the biggest thing difference in this team is they are protected the ball and not committing Turnover and they re winning games they shouldn't lose compared to last year they would lose games they should win.
First off , I thought the video was fair . As a Bucks fan of course it would have been best for him to go to a Western team playing for rings , That said Boston was always going to be the team to beat for The bucks to get out of the East so "big picture" it didn't really change anything. Then you have to factor in what was said at the end of the video , Let's say The Bucks don't make the move and Dame goes to The Heat , to me that would have been even worse for The Bucks.
As is , again as a Bucks fan I really am still more worried about The Heat Shooting light out again with Jimmy Buckets stealing games Then Boston. My biggest question with Boston is how much does "big Al" still have left in him because he is been able to slow down Giannis better then most. Porzingis a bit a of wild card but I really see him not playing well vrs The Bucks or being a factor as much vrs other teams they play.
This is why I still fear "Big AL" , they traded away all there other "Giannis stoppers" and Porzingis is not going to be able to guard Giannis . Giannis wants it bad this year and he is going to be going hard,
IF the Celtics make their 3’s; that’s so true 🤦♂️😭 it’s funny cause when Tatum misses 3’s it just looks way worse cause his shot is so dam ugly 😂 it’s like he’s being electrocuted from his legs up to his arms. Holiday was a great addition for Celtics. However it took a bit-it wasn’t an immediate game changer. Portzingus was the best possible trade / Marcus smart was a cancer imo. Celtics have a talented deep bench- the role players stepping up this year such as Derek white- he’s been an absolute beast. Prichard and Hauser are true sharp shooters-they got a monster in Kornet contesting every shot 😂 the Celtics 2nd team is better than most starting lineups.
Celtics have gone 12-2 since this video with both losses coming by a total of 7 points and every win but 1 being double digits while resting a revolving door of starters basically every night for the past 2 weeks. With only two more games against top tier opponents (vs OKC on April 3rd and @ MIL on the 9th) and no more back-to-backs do the Celtics close out the season 9-2 and go 66-16?
It'll be interesting to see Joe mixing and mashing these line ups the next 3 weeks as we wrap up the NBA season to try to keep everyone fresh and healthy for the post season. And like you said, if the shots are falling, this is a team that is not easy to beat.
Bro spoke it into existence!! 🙏🏼 ☘️
the celtics are now the only team on par with denver, but they gotta beat denver to be considered the best team in the league. that would be a sick finals though
Yeah. The finals we all want (except the teams we support).
Turning Smart into Porzingis was genius by Brad Stevens
Marcus smart was always holding this Celtics team back because he is so limited offensively
Getting Holiday as a 2 way guy covered all of the Celtics weaknesses on offense
Smart could never play make and creat his own shot like holiday can
Malcolm brogdon and the timelord arent significant. Haha. Those guys catching strays..
Rob Will was significant, but couldn’t be relied on because of injuries. Brogdon was really disappointing in the playoffs, although he ended up getting an injury, he was underwhelming come playoffs.
Compared to the impact a guy like Jrue has they were not significant.
@@MahcusSmahrt36 Jrue SUCKS in the playoffs.
Like... Real bad sucking
@@Edd_LShore how the bucks win that ring??? Ain’t it Jrue steal leading to giannis open court dunk???
Jrue doesn’t suck in the playoffs. The bucks needed him to be a 3rd scorer because kris is so injury prone.
Jrue is what, the 5th scorer on this team?
Lmao your take SUCKS
@@Edd_LShorewon’t matter when you have 4 to 5 other players backing you up
@@MahcusSmahrt36 Jrue Holiday SUCKS in the playoffs, not just with the Bucks.
And Middleton wasnt injury prone. He was clutch in their ring year. And they won with Giannis becoming an all time great and clutch Middleton shots, not with Holiday shooting 4-20 every other night.
Nailed it. Jrue is the key to the championship. Everything else needs to be in place just to get there but having Jrue is the difference between getting there and winning it all. Again, take away anyone else and Celtics don't even get to the championship but Jrue gets them over the hump.
So many Celtics fans were crying when we traded smart, but I was actually extremely happy because yes I loved him, but he gave us all of his prime years so it was a smart, business choice. To bring in a motivated Porzingis, who still wants to prove to the league why he is the unicorn. Injuries were behind him and we are getting him at his absolute prime. Milwaukee made a stupid decision getting rid of holiday. I would rather have holiday than Damian Lillard. Yeah, Lillard might score 7 points more, but might get those certain steals during a game that you need and still put up 25 points.
Sorry but had to stop at 5:50 because it was just like the 10th time repeating the same 2 points over and over again. This is a 2 minute video of an opinion without much behind it. Which is fine, but most people would be more impressed with the KP trade or Derrick White's contributions this year than Holiday's.
One of the most interesting aspects of the trade is that Holiday is one of the most effective defenders against Dame. That could matter if Boston and Milwaukee end up in a playoff series. You gotta assume Holiday would play his heart out in that series.
I'll believe when I see it. They are always beast in the regular season.
Dame helps the Celtics he is real mvo lol
Jrue Holliday does things on the court that no other NBA player does, and he is a joy to watch on a nightly basis.
This is it! This team should try for as long as they can, this is definitely a championship team
I literally agreed dirty everything you said . The bucks tried being the Lakers and karma came and slapped us in the face. Ya when this happened and he went to Boston I was like might as well hand them the Larry O'Brian trophy now
I love Jrue. I want him back next year and he should be the anchor to the second unit. Instead of trying to shoehorn him into the starters let the man cook with the second unit
Brad Stevens has to win executive of the year. Made great moves and will most likely get the best record end of season
I don't think Jrue Holiday is what changed the celtics, its KP who is a rim defender + 3p shooter. Once they had that it was game over. Jrue is just cherry on top
Celtics fans didn't want to admit it but smart was killing us with the little things in big moments.
Not true. I used to say this in real time. Smart is literally the reason the celtics lost to any high level basketball team. In the 4th quarter, leave smart wide open. Hes going to shoot it or drive and turn it over because hes going to be trying to prove something. But use his man to double team either tatum or brown. The heat and the warriors basically ran the same play book on defense. Play physical with the jays. Stay close to horford so hes not wide open. Doube off of smart. Watch him implode. Smart is a tough bastard. And i wont ever say he didnt play his heart out. But he was out of control way too often. I dont think its a surprise how much calmer the team plays. He was an extremely bipolar player and alot of antics got in the way of the team. His blood feud with the refs. All the flopping and falling amd rolling around. His endless three point barrage while also being the worst shooter on the team and one of the worst shooters of all time.
Lol. Now it would be Jrue Holiday.
@@Edd_LShoresalty bucks fan?
@@zakking4983 Doesnt matter. Watch his playoffs numbers. He shots 45% from three when it doesnt matter and as soon as it does and defense increases hes literally Marcus Smart
Celtics fans might not want to admit that, but from the outside, his offensive decision making was clearly costing them games and was so bad that I don’t know if the defense he was bringing to the table was actually worth it. The grizz trade still doesn’t make sense to me, only explanation I have was the GM never watched the Celtics and just heard about smart getting a DPOY so he pulled the trigger on the trade.
GO CELTICS
Brad Stevens is the GOAT
Celtics were already a top tier contender, and they added guys who immediately became their 3rd and 4th best player, without giving up their top 3 players from the year before.
this reminds me somewhat of the Warriors when they got KD. JD ain’t KD but it’s just a perfectly put together team that drafted, traded and signed their way into success. they didn’t do what the Nets or Clippers did and just buy a team
Getting Jrue holiday from a direct competitor Bucks is so savage and the bucks never saw it playing out that way
We have no business making these trades. Brad Steven’s OP. This is the best starting 5 I think I’ve ever seen watching the NBA for 20 years
What I like about BOS is they have guys who are happy with winning games and playing good basketball.
They don’t have a lot of the extra stuff that many of the teams around the league have to deal with.
Except Taytum, playing on a hilariously stacked team, built entirely by ripping the rest of the league off, playing career low minutes and shot attempts, complaining he's getting no MVP attention.
@@testattestdotnetlmao ya just love to make stuff up he as was asked a question and answered it he never “complained” about not winning mvp
Only thing missing is that jrue holiday is dames kryptonite, they traded us dames counter . Makes me happy
Smart for Porzingis PLUS a 1st round pick will go down in history. Its llike a lesser version of DeRozan for Kawhi
Wait, this guy thinks Smart is more valuable than Porzingis? Huh?
To be fair the Celtics gave up Brogdon and Rob Williams who were originally supposed to be rotational pieces. In hind sight of course it seems like a very low price to pay but that’s not how it was when the deal was made.
This video should've been done when they actually won something. It doesn't matter what move someone does unless it leads to a championship (or be a good team if you're a tanking team)
Youre acting like Boston gave up a bunch of bums for Jrue. They gave up significant rotation pieces in Rob Williams and the reigning 6MOY in Brogdon not to mention that pick too.
Fuck the Jason Tatum narratives, fuck the Jaylen Brown left hand jokes, this Celtics team is winning it all if they’re healthy.
Did everyone forget why the Bucks got rid of Holiday? What his big flaw is? This happens with Hardan and Embiid too. They look awesome during the regular season and people with short memories hoot and holler about how great they are and then the playoffs come and these 3 shrivel up. Why do we have to do this every season?
Lol, there is a difference in role for Holiday on the Celtics. It's one thing for him to be the no. 2 on the Bucks. On Boston, he is no. 4 or 5.
I love my knicks but i honestly think the biggest mistake was letting the Celtics get Porzingis. He was open to coming back to NY
It's championship or bust type of season in Boston, I hope we win it all this season
At this point in the season, I think they could lose someone to injury and STILL win it all. That's how good they are.
People get traded to rivals of their original team. Roger Clemens left the Red Sox to go to Toronto, then got traded to the Yankees. I remember that one and I'm sure there were others. The Yankees also do what the Celtics used to do in the 50s, 60s, 70s and 80s, and that is getting a big star for nothing. The Celtics once traded rookie Darren Tillis to Cleveland for al.-star Scott Wedman and they traded Joe Barry Carroll for Robert Parrish and a first round pick (Kevin McHale) as well as traded Rick Robey to Phoenix for Dennis Johnson.
It all came back to bite them. When Reggie Lewis passed away, they asked the league if they could give his widow the money remaining on his contract so they could free up cap space to get another player of some value. That request was denied.
Brad Stevens has said that he views the Holliday trade as thebCeltics deadline addition.
0:22 I am pretty sure Jaylen was also a pick they got from the Nets lol
The crazier thing is, the players they traded are all injured and the players Celtics acquired are relatively healthy. Winning has affected it I’m sure but still
Celtics were basically swapping a great defensive guard/motor in smart to try and get another star in porzingis and then got a better version of smart for what feels like free
As much as I loved Smart, heart and soul of that team, Holiday is pretty close defensively and is an upgrade on offense