Allen Edmonds vs Thursday Boots (A Cobblers Review) | Trenton & Heath
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Excellent! Someone needed to make a good, honest, unsponsored post about the difference between AE and Thursday. Thank you for making it!
I try my best! Wanted some expertise on this one
@@The_Kavalier great video. allen edmonds have a better price point, never paid more than 149
It's reassuring to know that they think Thursday Boots are pretty good options at the price point. Really appreciate the work you three are doing!
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I'm really loving these Trent and heath videos!
Excellent video from a couple guys who know their stuff!
Thanks, Carl!
Been waiting on a comparison review for Thursday against the competition for so long. Keep up the great videos!
Thank you Kevin!
Thanks Jon! Keep up the educational videos. I'm learning a lot.
Nice comparison video, I brought a pair of Thursday’s shoes when they had their first promotion and got them for $99 and liked them well enough to buy the same ones in the video at regular price. Good shoes for the money
I really appreciate and am enjoying the Trent and Heath videos. I'm subscribed to their channel and am learning a lot. I was trying to take old polish off of some tan brogues last month and listened to a RUclips video that told me to put my shoes in the oven at 300 degrees. It sort of worked, but the shoes shrunk....now I can hardly fit into them. You live and learn, I guess.
Another great review!
Bro. I subscribed so hard to Trenton & Heath after your series of videos. Like them so much that I’m likely gonna bring all of my shoes to them for cobbling moving forward.
Thanks, Sean! We really appreciate the support! We really enjoyed working with Jon, and we’re always happy to help. 👍🏻
Great video and love this series with Trenton and Heath. After running into you in NYC, you convinced me to pull the trigger on my first pair of Carmina’s. Excellent recommendation, couldn’t be happier! Keep it up!
Thursday are $200, and they don't go on sale. Allen Edmonds has sales where you can get them for $200 to $300, and then they have coupon codes to bring the price down by 20%. You can also shop Allen Edmonds Shoe Bank for clearance and factory seconds.
Great video idea! Love it!
Jon, I must say I really enjoy your shoe content the most. Every time something dress shoe related gets posted it's an instant watch. I'm seconding the Thursday / Meermin comparison video idea!
The Thursday drop has pretty much been eliminated in their current production. I did experience that with their first gen boots. They switched some materials used in the footbed so that could be why the Thursday drop was so common.
Got a dapper slim shady on the left there lol! Great vid, keep it up!
I firmly believe that AE is the benchmark for American style shoes at that price point. When companies like Thursday come out and offer quality footwear at a lower price, the “quality” they talk about is benchmarked against AE. Allen Edmonds are some big shoes to fill in this industry but I also believe that Thursday brought their own.
Great honest review. Both nice at their respective price points but I think I will go with the Allen Edmonds
Loving these videos with amazing cobblers! 🌟👞❤️👍🏼
I was def considering Thursday’s oxfords for work and maybe leave the much nicer strands and Carminas for the more formal nights
The vast majority of my dress shoes are Allen Edmonds. I have 10+ pairs. What isnt mentioned is that AEs come in various widths. I wear a B since my foot is narrow. It is very hard to find a dress shoe in my size.
Thanks again Jon for another great video comparison. I have had several quality issues with AE lately, I am searching for replacement for them. I really appreciate your reviews. BTW, I purchased a MTM suit from Indochino last month and the verdict is still out. My first MTM in many years. I bought one from Oliver Wicks yesterday and am very interested to see the difference. Thank you again.
Cobbler union could be a worthy replacement
@@jakubrosiecki443 Just purchased my first pair of Cobbler Union shoes. Thank you for the recommendations. I can't wait to get them.
Jeff Estes you’re welcome :) hope they serve you well
My main complaint with Thursday is how bad the leather creases and ages. Goodyear welt is pointless if the leather wants to quit after 3 years. Their suede is a fairly good deal however.
1 month in on my captains and they aren't creasing. At least more than you'd expect. I'm using shoe trees and I properly conditioned them when I first got them.
I just watched a video that showed a pair of their chelseas after one year of wear and they didn't look great at all. I don't know if they are using better materials now, I don't know if that guy just didn't take care of them at all.
I know I'm beating this joke to death....lol,...but the video looks like a clip from NWA Georgia Championship Wrestling. Jon in the middle, is Gordon Solie interviewing " the Cobbler Boys," a big ol' southern boy tag team duo that's challenging Ric Flair and the Junkyard Dog for the Intercontinental Championship Belt.
So far, I have purchased 2 pairs of Thursday Boots dress shoes. I love them. You can feel the difference in the construction when you wear them. Coming from a guy who winces at shoes over $80. I have recently started asking, "What's spending more going to get me?". Thursdays are worth the extra money. I really take care of the uppers, and so far so good. Great comparison, and maybe one day I'll add some AE's to the rotation.
I've been trying to make the leap and buy some thursday boots shoes since most are around the $200 price point
how is the sizing on their dress shoes compare to your regular sneaker size?
They say to buy a half size down and in hindsight I should have done that. While tight at first, the do in fact loosen up a bit. My fix is to simply pull the laces tight when I tie my shoes. I wear a size 12 sneaker/tennis shoe.
@@jub62202 (hey thanks..)i got their boots half size smaller and they were too big..
do their dress shoes comfortable ? are they narrow or roomy ?
i appreciate the answer..i tried to asked them but their costumer service is not helpful. better to just go on youtube and ask normal people.
After the break in they fit really nice. No pressure points. That cork bed once it forms to your foot is nice. Definitely do the show trees. They still smell like new leather with no sweaty foot oder. These shoes (in large part due to the heel) really feel like the foundation of what you are wearing. I feel like I'm getting the support I need.
Just bought a Thursday "New" Statesman, they are Blake NOT Goodyear, and the tread is a Vibram-esque lug instead of the original Dainite-esque stud. The original Statesman is still available and billed as "Classic Collection", they do have some styling differences and come in a different pallet of colors. The New are stamped Handcrafted in Portugal (I think they have been mostly Mexico before?), the insole is glued in and it is leather over foam. Still full grain leather uppers with glove leather lining, and the heel counter is rough out. The web description says it still has a cork footbed.
I found a BARELY used pair in very good shape just like the shown Allen Edmonds of all leather at about $15 and cheap shipping. Once they arrive, I will share clear photos with the 2 cobblers for their remarks.
That "drop" does happen with the Thursday's. I own 4 pairs of their boots and 1 of their shoes and I own 29 pairs of AE'S. Thursday's do decline in comfort a little bit whereas my AE'S have just gotten more comfortable. Another thing about Thursday's is the heel block is quite bulky/large and high of the ground compared to the AE'S. I have the AE Liverpool chelsea and all 3 types of Thursday Chelsea boots and the AE is MUCH better in looks and quality but I like the Thursday's too. The nice thing about Thursday's is they offer a lot of different colors and materials for each model.. Thursday's are great for the price though and I would recommend them. I would go for AE seconds, firsts or Aldens if you can afford them over Thursday's shoes.
You didn't mention the biggest difference between the two: AEs are available in various widths; Thursdays come in only one width. Even though the Thursdays are much cheaper than the AEs, I still do not see the point in paying Thursdays prices for shoes that probably won't fit. If I am going to spend a lot of money on a shoe (whether AE prices or Thursday prices), I expect it to fit both the length and width of my foot.
The uppers are what I care about most. There’s something about high end leather 20 years later that is so soothing on your feet.
Really good series, mate! You should do this "expert opinion" series for shirts, suits, ties, etc. Did you ask them to have a look at other brands like Undandy, meermin and the like?
HansP-V Keep an eye out as we’ll be doing a lot of shoe reviews based upon the quality of the materials...breaking the shoes down and seeing how well they’re constructed.
Thursday vs ace marks? I personally prefer the style of the Thursday’s oxford but idk how the leather is compared to the ace marks (I don’t own either companies oxfords but I have Thursdays presidents and there GREAT) would love to see one of your round up videos about AE vs Thursday’s vs ace marks etc
I own pairs of both, and have done quite a bit of research as well. My verdict is that Ace Marks have nicer leather for their uppers but aren't are robustly constructed as Thursdays. Ace Marks are also more expensive usually, though you can sometimes get them on sale.
I have purchased two pair of Allen Edmonds' 2nds for just over $200 each. 2nds are regularly available. They just ran an additional 30% off, so one pair was $170! They were both awesome shoes with very little, hard to see imperfections. Actually what they call imperfections, is normal on lesser brands shoes anyhow. They have sales throughout the year. I wouldn't pay full price for Allen Edmonds, around $400 I'd get TLB Mallorca or Vass, but close to $200, the 2nds can't be beat.
Can you do a review on Velasca shoes? Italian DTC company that looks quite similar to AE. $195
I’d be interested in a Crockett and Jones compared to a high-end Allen Edmonds/Alden on what you get for the money.
I recently updated my relationship with my cobbler. I had my Mezlans resoled, glad I did it. Feels better than just letting it sit somewhere in a closet.
Excellent
I'm an 11 EEE, so my only option starts at Allen Edmonds. If you don't have a normal "D" width, AE gives you choices.
I would say Allen Edmonds seconds, at the same price as new Thursday Boots, is still the better deal.
Agreed. Better leather on the upper
Yeah and allen edmonds has a ton of seconds on sale for mid 200's price.
Absolutely!
But they don’t ship internationally :(
I used to hold the same opinion, until I learned from several pairs that AE's QC went directly to hell in recent years. Buying 2nd became a gamble that's not worth it. Or I just got extremely unlucky with my ~5 pairs of AE 2nd.
I have owned a few thursdays. With a price point of $200 and avg resole costing $160 for Dainite, I have to wonder if they are worth paying to get them re-soled? You could sell your used Captain for $40-100 and buy a new Captain with a little more cash. My Cavaliers lasted me 3 yrs with even heavy wear, which is awesome. But the suede has loosened up enough that its a bit shapeless and loose. The poron comfort pad is still cushy, but not as cushy when new. For $200 great shoes and boots. Just not sure about the roi on recrafting them at a $160-200+ investment.
I would be happy to try Thursday but it's their lack of sizing that's prohibitive.
Hey Jon, which has a better quality leather in the upper between Thursday and Meermin?
I love your video but have to question when you say the construction of Thursday’s shoes is on par with AE when Thursday uses poron and a thin layer of cork compared to AE that uses all natural materials. For whatever reason, it seems like you guys walk on egg shells when it comes to discussing Thursday compared to other brands.
Are the heels of allen edmonds shorter than Thursdays? thanks
first pair of allen edmonds shoes I bought for work (business casual), I wore for 3 years before they were actually worn out. This is a layman non-shoe fanatic, wear it until it's done.
After that, I bought a few pairs to rotate (to the displeasure of my wife, who thinks things get stale with time) and while many of the soles have worn a lot, all are wearable. 9 years later.
For people who can't afford allen edmonds, there are a lot of people with a lot more money than you who want to dump their shoes on ebay and you can get little worn or reconstructed pairs for half to about an eighth of new price. Take advantage of the fact that people will buy shoes for $400 and wear them 5 times and change their minds and sell them for $100 or whatever, just like you or I would with $50 shoes we found didn't come to the top of the rotation.
AE's shoes are like stepping back in time. they're comfortable, they're not light weight foamy fast wearing stuff and nothing just comes loose at random like what happens with $100-$150 mall store shoes.
Are these the AE Bradley model?
Trenton and Heath are the best!
kongmw Thank you! 😉👍🏻
Oh... my.... God..... I've been waiting for this video lmao
Hey Jon, I know you’re a fan if Oliver Wicks... have or anyone you know had the chance to check their shoes out yet? I’m buying my first REAL pair of shoes and I’m trying to decide between Thursday, Beckett & Simminon, Meermin, Acemark or Oliver Wicks.
Best budget boot: Thursday (you don't necessarily need soft leather on your boot)
Best budget Office shoe: AE (durable and the fit and finish similar to competitors at higher price points)
Rather have the AE boot than thursday even if is a second with cosmetic flaws lol
Aizen Sousuke I don't own a Thursday so I can't say for myself. I have AE, but I don't like care for the toe style very much (American/almond shaped). I should have mentioned Loake. You can get a good deal on those and I prefer the style.
When some of the A/E's go on sale (2-3 times a year) - they get very close to the price of Thursday's. Then its not even a fair comparison.
Can you guys review redwing heritage such as iron ranger?
I can tell you mine were junk. Staples popped through. The customer service said that I was lying because the staples get removed, but a few pictures later proved my point. I’d recommend the captains to save a few bucks or Nicks for a few more. If you have money and time I love the role clubs.
My Thursdays hurt my feet so bad until broken in.
My Allen Edmonds were stiff at first, but never hurt.
I got thursday boots dress shoes and at first they seemed pretty good quality but the dye of the leather literally rubs and scuffs off. I wore them one day and they were so messed up after that they were impossible to wear again. The company sent me a new pair and exactly the same problem. Will not buy their dress shoes ever again
Yo do a review of GH Bass
Yes
Holy s*, how tall are these guys? Theyre taller than Jon who's 6'4. Wtf
I took the short stool 😜
@@The_Kavalier Lol that makes sense. I was thinking maybe they came from a different planet or something.
Great video btw, I suggested a follow up on thursday and it's nice to see you mentioning that as a future video. Thanks for listening to your audience!
In your opinion: Allen Edmonds factory 2nd OR Thursday's shoes?
Bernardo Guerra Allen Edmonds factory seconds.
@@TrentonHeath Thanks for the reply! Your participation in the video added a lot. Thanks for the contribution!
Maybe they're very short but have really long torso
More interested in a comparison between Thursday and Beckett Simonon and Meermin since they are around the same price point.
In the works
Meermin by far vs these two.
M3.Milan yeah, that’s what I figured. The problem I’ve heard with them is regarding returns. I don’t have a physical store near me and so I have no idea how their lasts fit for sizing purposes. I’d rather not order online only to have to pay for return shipping to Spain.
@@OUlawstudent18 Do the returns go back to Madrid or their NY shop? I got a pair of 114409 - SNUFF SUEDE - E (from their site) while in Madrid in size 9 UK(10 US), which is the NOD last. I'm usually 10.5D in AEs. Im probably done with AE. The leather quality on my last two pairs is just not up to par with the rest of my AEs. That said, Im looking at Meermins unlined loafers and Ill most likely go with a 9 UK.
Hateeeeeeeeee the leather split in the front of the AE shoes
Great review, right on point. I've heard that Thursday shoes have a good construction but the quality of the upper is very poor, the leather/suede would scratch and tear only after a couple of months of wear. I would skip on those.
The Thursday shoes serves a price point. How does one expect them to serve a market and make a profit? If you expect higher quality leather and are willing to pay the higher price then these shoes are not made for you.
@@joeluang8695 well not exactly. The Thursday boots cost nearly $200 a pair. You have brands like Timberland that is half that price point and lasts for years.
@@CrystalKey322 That was not the point I was making. In your situation the Timberland shoes might represent a better value for you and that's great because you found your shoe that fits your situation. For others who might be willing to accept lower quality for a price point or very specific aesthetics then this shoe fits for them. It's horses for courses or else we'd all be wearing the same shoes or the same pants or shirt, etc..
Buying a clothing item for the aesthetic!?? That’s a crazy idea.
@Monolidslife- Has this been your personal experience in our shoes? If so, we would appreciate if you reach out to us directly concerning your shoes. The leather we uses is very durable but if you had a different experience we would like to make sure you are taken care of. We take customer feedback (both positive and negative) very seriously and are always looking for ways to improve our customer experience, products, and as a business at large. Please reach out to us at founders@thursdayboots.com. If this is not your personal experience we're still happy to address each of your concerns ! Best, Kendra from Thursday
How do Amberjacks compare to Thursday or Allen?
Thursday shoes or Allen Edmonds factory seconds? Roughly the price point, I assume the Allen Edmonds is the better quality and thus better choice.
One reason to go with allen edmonds is recrafting. It doesn’t matter if you bought them on ebay or seconds. It doesn’t if you have leather or dainate sole. They will recraft them and you know it will be done right by the same company who built the shoes. With Thursday they don’t have this option and only recommend you a very limited list of cobblers that have work with their shoes before. Only in a few states and that’s not good enough.
Not a great video from a shoe buyer's perspective. It came off more as a plug for Thursday Boots as an alternative to the "new" Allen Edmonds. What is the real, qualitive difference in the upper leathers? Does Thursday Boots use corrected leather, bonded, full grain or calf as opposed to AE using "French" and/or "Italian" leather?
Great question or at least my question too. Hopefully that rose anvil guy will saw some in half and describe
I wish comparison videos between allen edmonds and x brand use realistic pricepoints for comparison. No one out here be paying $425 for a pair of allen edmonds shoes. Given that most AEs (shoes, not boots) are bought around the 200-250 dollar pricepoint no one making a decent comparison video should seriously say AEs cost double of what Thursdays cost.
Potato Sir what do you mean
@@DirectFireDave He means you can buy a pair of Allen Edmonds oxfords as seconds right now off their own website for 200 flat. Also Allen Edmonds constantly runs sales, even on their firsts. I have four pair from Allen Edmonds, and I only paid actual retail once. That was for a custom order where I requested the sole be changed.
Basically, you should never have to pay full price for a pair of AE's unless you want to and or cant wait.
True. You can get some 1st during sales or clearance for $200-250 sometimes less. I've never paid more than $250 for 1st.
Exactly. You can get AE on sale almost all the time.
I think it would even be fair to call AEs $300 just for the sake of the argument as pretty much all of their shoes goes on sale for at least that. $200-250 is definitely attainable for a lot of their styles, just not for some of the most popular ones.
can you go over the different types of allen edmond shoes?
Yes video in the works
AE has over 10 types of lasts. The Hangar Project does a feature covering AE most popular oxfords (park avenue, 5th Ave, strand, McAllister) all are on the same last.
So I have found that Alan Edmunds no longer nails in their heel blocks. I found this out because they fall off.😢 Thursday boots does nail most of the heel blocks
I wanna see Thursday boots vs shoe passion!
I am a heavier guy and work through the soles faster than the upper. This has lead me to take my shoes to be repaired when I need to (almost once a year). Do these allow themselves to be repaired? Or would you recommend something else?
Thursdays definitely can be repaired many times as long as the upper stays strong. The leather creases more than Allen Edmonds by far, but they are decent quality for the money.
Question?!? Do you think ALL Allen Edmonds shoes are great quality? Including loafers, chealseas, oxfords? Thanks in advance. I see lots of reviews on Allen Edmonds shoes but never loafers or chealsea boots
Their loafers are good quality. I own a pair of Potomacs and they are as good as my other AE shoes. Some loafers are better thsn others though I think. The Lake Forests I believe have cheaper rubber soles and such.
What about Allen Edmonds vs Crocs?
If the upper other Thursday boots not really high-quality are there other recommended brands that might be below the price of an Allen Edmonds with a good year welt? any opinion on Grant stone?
Look into meermin. Their shell (not horween but japanese or italian) is priced at about the same price as AE calfskin.
davidoletep I would like to get into them but I know Jon. A bad experience when he found a staple in one and had a difficult time in the return exchange process
Not sure if that’s changed over time
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Ya. Apparently Allan Edmonds quality is going down. You know it's bad when it's comparable to Thursday! Lol
Hit the nail on the head!
It’s a shame, but more profitable I guess. This is the problem when brands get bought and sold by private equity firms. They buy it cut quality to improve profits and resell it. Same with auto parts.
Tome like !
starter shoe???
What is poron (spelling?) lining? Is that worth making a quick video about?
@@Unknowntyper thanks, friend!
@@Unknowntyper Poron is a type of foam that some people do make insoles out of. The Thursday shoes have the cork mid-soles with a poron foam pad on the inside of the shoe. Has nothing to do with the hot cork.
The other comment has no clue what he's talking about. Poron (you spelled it correctly) is just a type of foam. A lot of shoes will put a poron liner or pad in the insoles of the shoes to make them more comfortable. For instance, the shoes sold at Brooks Brother's that are made by Allen Edmonds all had poron insoles.
@@vezonf3nrak cool! Thank you for correcting things. I appreciate it.
I went with AE walnut Strand because of their online photos, BUT they don't come with any polish and look just like the Thursday. Boring and plain. Not even close to the photos. I'm actually disappointed with how they're finished, how the sawtooth design on the cap is mangled, and yes, they appear to be constructed well, BUT... Thursday is also making a good product
So… Like every shoe on their website is 395. Now, what’s your opinion?
How do Thursday compares to Spier and McKay ?
pranjal kumar second this
This series could go on forever. Should do Thursday vs Meermin next 😎👀👀👀
@@The_Kavalier please do Thursday vs Meermin. Lol
I like Spier and Mackay for shirts as I get alot of shirts from them. I saw their shoes breifly in the showroom and they already had some creasing. I'm not sure if someone tried them on, but if that was the case they should not crease like that. My Meermin shoes don't crease like that and I have had my oxfords for a few years now.
Allen Edmonds have yet to be successful ordering shoes from their website. Last 2 orders in less than 1 month have been cancelled due to no inventory. Very disappointing. AE unable to manage their own inventory. Chatted with CS I said I have never had this much trouble giving my $ to a company to buy their products. I have had more success getting limited editions on the SNKRS app than securing a pair of AE!
Ironic... I've bought 10 pair of Allen Edmonds in the past year, Sept 2021 to Sept 2022. 11 EEE's and they've had what I wanted in stock every single time. Hamiton boots, Chelsea boots, Strands, 5th Aves, Parks, 2 different Strandmoks, A pair of Chuckas. Is your shoe size that rare or that common?
What is the “Thursday drop” I kep hearing about it and it’s kept me from purchasing a pair
IIRC it's when the insole sags after a year in the arch. Something like that. No experience whatsoever personally.
It's when the insole gets compressed and hard.
Honestly I would have to say that might be the case for someone who doesn't rotate shoes and doesn't take proper care of them.
Eddie Resendiz yeah I was thinking the same I’m so wanting to get a pair
Brendan, when you get the chance get a pair, you wont regret it. These boots are a steal. I honestly had doubt, once I opened the box I could smell that real leather not that cheap genuine leather, I was excited. I tried them on and oh man I felt like 6 million bucks. Nah but really dont hesitate and get some. Also try to get a good pair of cedar shoe trees. Itll worth it
Not sure this is relevant but I knew an Alan Edmunds once. He was an extremely nasty piece of work and got sent to prison for grievous bodily harm after going mental in a Chinese takeaway in Tipton. I never saw him after that.
In all fairness, comparing softness of the leather from a new show to a well worked in AE shoe, doesn’t really lend to a good comparison.
They are talking about AE in general, not just the ones in the video. There are different leather qualities and AE usually uses full grain leather while others use corrected grain leather. With full grain, if you look closely you can see follicles.
Full grain is way less prone to permanent creasing or wrinkling. Full grain and its follicles are "open" and will accept moisturizers/conditioners, dyes and waxes. Over time, full grain can develop a patina and depth from multiple polishing sessions. There is a higher cost to full grain as if the animal's skin gets damaged (insect bites, animal bites, scratches against a fence), it cannot be used or you will see the damage.
Corrected grain leather has been sanded to remove imperfections, such as the damages mentioned above. Then a grain pattern is pressed onto the leather where a natural pattern once was before it was sanded off. This effectively seals the leather and the shoe will not easily accept moisturizers dye or waxes, treatments just sit on top of the leather. I have 2 pairs of corrected grain shoes. These are from Magnanni and have a very high quality corrected grain leather. The still wrinkle way more than full grain shoes and cannot be shined past the point of when they were new. I use Saphir, Burgol, La Cordonnerie Anglaise and Collonil. These are the best waxes and polishes you can buy and you still can't really shine corrected grain leather. Full grain AE shoes will produce an insane shine from the mild waxes found in a good conditioner like Saphir renovateur.
Full grain is more supple than corrected grain leather. There will be varying degrees of quality for both full and corrected grain leathers as well.
Why are we comparing oxfords derbies?
They're not. They are comparing construction, price, and leather difference. They just happen to have 1 oxford and 1 derby.
AE has better leather and more sizing options. AE is better even the AE seconds are better
Jeez if your 6’4” how big are those cobblers?? They make you look tiny!
I've had Allen Edmonds which are 9 years old and in great condition. I don't think Thursday Boots are even 9 years old as a company. TB may be a good product for the price but they are not the same quality as AE.
Agreed
@@The_Kavalier Kavalier - Question off topic if you know the answer. I typically buy Samuelsohn or Brooks Brothers suits, looking at a Canali now. What does a Nordstrom or Saks or Harry Rosen mark-up on a Canali suit? If you buy it for $1800 what does the retailer pay? It doesn't change my approach but I'm morbidly curious. Aside from Ebay I've never seen a Canali (unless its a bizarre size 58L) at a huge discount. That makes me think the store is paying a high price. Brooks Brothers and Samuelsohn are always on sale. I know Nordstrom and Saks are prohibited from putting brands like Burberry and Louboutin on sale - is that the same for Canali?
Meermin is the best under $200 and Carmina under $500
Im not sure why everyone is talking about Allen edmonds shoes because this brand has more flaws and defects than any other brand I heard of people do some research before promoting crap there are better quality brands in US than Allen edmonds and it's not Allen edmonds anymore it's been sold to somebody else the quality it's not the same but you'll never find any other quality brands with so many defects and flaws they don't even sell their shoes with defects and flaws like Allen edmonds does do your self a favor and do some research cheers
Hey Jon, great video! I own 9 pairs of Allen Edmonds. Just 1 pair of Thursday. The boots only. I wouldnt buy them again. The quality is not worth the price of resoling. I would buy another pair of Allen Edmonds on sale or seconds. Worth the extra. My question was you mentioned on a comment they will not be having these crazy sale much anymore. I am curious why you think that. Also if you think changing that is a good idea.
Stay tuned, several AE videos coming up. I’m very bullish on AE going forward though. Trying to get them up soon
One thing to think about is that Thursdays seem to never go on sale. Allen Edmonds has some pretty good sale every once in awhile.
Who buys Allen Edmond at full price ? They always have sales going on.
That won’t last much longer
Are the Cobblers taller than you?
About Thursday Boots: like the video already mentioned, Thursday Boots has a very solid construction but the quality of their leather upper varies greatly across different colors/materials.
Brown and Chocolate: best quality; equal to that of AE. However, this cannot be considered a praise since AE has lost their quality nowadays...
Mahogany: Second grade; color variation is somewhat disappointing and the whole mahogany effect is less than ideal. Passable.
Suede and Black: garbage tier quality; peeling and breakage is common on these two colors and I returned the two pairs I received.
Actually, you've made a good point. Even when looking at the description of the various leathers, some of them are sourced from Horween, others from their own creation. Granted that some of the leather might not be as consistent as they'd like, even among the same exact shoe line.
@JohnnyRyu I'm sorry to hear you had this experience in our Suede and Black leathers. Did you get a chance to reach out to our support team concerning the Suede and Black pairs that you received? Our Black leather is made of the same upper as our Brown leather so something may have been wrong with the hide itself. If you email us at founders@thursdayboots.com we're happy to take closer look if you have any images of the leather peeling. We want to make sure you are taken care of!
@@Thursdayboots Your support team exchanged both shoes for me when I reported the issue. As of right now I am no longer in possession of said shoes.
Thursday Boot Company sizing is my main concern with the shoes, today I received and used for the first time my captains in 11.5, a bit snug on the shoe box (right where the first shoelace holes begin) I read that they should give more room as they are broken in.
How should I size for the shoes,
In Ace Marks I purchased 12 E, returned them, they said to go 13.
Brannock device 12 EE
Your web site said go 12
For Loafer go 1/2 down to 11.5 (according to reviews)
Other Thursday shoes 12
The captain boot 11.5
So you see why I find it confusing.
I don't buy this. Two different cobblers on reddit.com/r/goodyearwelt have written about how crappy the construction is and how hard they difficult they were to resole due to the cheap materials.
@Miguel Vargas - Has this been your personal experience in our shoes? If so, we would appreciate if you reach out to us directly concerning your shoes. If you had a different experience we would like to make sure you are taken care of. We take customer feedback (both positive and negative) very seriously and are always looking for ways to improve our customer experience, products, and as a business at large. Please reach out to us at founders@thursdayboots.com. If this is not your personal experience we're still happy to address each of your concerns ! Best, Kendra from Thursday
Jesus aren’t you 6’4? How tall are these guys? 6’9?
This is one of the few points I'd like to contradict the opinion of the cobbler.
Thursday Shoes are NOT well constructed. Even on their website you can see that they have a poor stand/footing and some other constructions problems which can lead to problems with your feet.
Has this been your personal experience in our shoes? If so, we would appreciate if you reach out to us directly concerning your shoes. We take customer feedback (both positive and negative) very seriously and are always looking for ways to improve our customer experience, products, and as a business at large. Please reach out to us at founders@thursdayboots.com. If this is not your personal experience we're still happy to address each of your concerns ! Best, Kendra from Thursday
Just say Price. Price Point sounds like you're trying to be important.
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Mmmmm supple.
How tf did this end up on my feed?