Walter Veith & Martin Smith-The Doctrine Of The Law, Predestination & Christian Perfection 2-WUP 61

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  • Опубликовано: 21 июл 2024
  • In Episode 61 we conclude the discussion on Christian perfection that started in part 1 • Walter Veith & Martin ... .
    What does moral perfection mean? We must understand the definition of moral perfection and study what the Bible and Spirit of Prophecy say on the subject. Is there a difference between perfection and sinlessness? It is important that we study these things, so that we do not fall into the sin of presumption.
    LINKS FOR FURTHER STUDY:
    Counsels on Diet and Foods, p. 133.2
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?q...
    The Spirit of Prophecy, vol. 3, p. 77.2
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?q...
    Manuscript Releases, vol. 13 [Nos. 1000-1080], p. 18.1
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?q...
    Gospel Workers (1915 ed.), p. 127.3
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?q...
    Selected Messages Book 3, p. 148.3
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?q...
    Manuscript Releases, vol. 21 [Nos. 1501-1598], p. 169.4
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?q...
    The Acts of the Apostles, p. 531.2
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?q...
    Confrontation, p. 48.2
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?q...
    Selected Messages Book 2, p. 32.3
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?q...
    The Acts of the Apostles, p. 472.1
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?q...
    Counsels to Parents, Teachers, and Students, p. 267.4
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?q...
    The Acts of the Apostles, p. 562.2
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?q...
    Selected Messages Book 2, p. 32.1
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?q...
    Last Day Events, p. 267.3
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?q...
    Selected Messages Book 3, p. 355.4
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?q...
    Last Day Events, p. 268.3
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?q...
    The Acts of the Apostles, p. 562.1
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?q...
    Steps to Christ, p. 65.1
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?q...
    Ye Shall Receive Power, p. 66.4
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?q...
    From the Heart, p. 47.3
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?q...
    The Great Controversy, p. 425.1
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?q...
    Heaven, p. 90.4
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?q...
    The Faith I Live By, p. 287.7
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?q...
    Selected Messages Book 3, p. 355.4
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?q...
    The Ministry of Healing, p. 466.1
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?q...
    The Spirit of Prophecy, vol. 4, p. 320.3
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?q...
    Humble Hero, p. 353.8
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?q...
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  • @ClashOfMinds1
    @ClashOfMinds1  3 года назад +16

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    LINKS FOR FURTHER STUDY:
    Counsels on Diet and Foods, p. 133.2
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=CD+133.2&suggestion=0
    The Spirit of Prophecy, vol. 3, p. 77.2
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=3SP+77.2&suggestion=0
    Manuscript Releases, vol. 13 [Nos. 1000-1080], p. 18.1
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=13MR+18.1&suggestion=0
    Gospel Workers (1915 ed.), p. 127.3
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=GW+127.3&suggestion=0
    Selected Messages Book 3, p. 148.3
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=3SM+148.3&suggestion=0
    Manuscript Releases, vol. 21 [Nos. 1501-1598], p. 169.4
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=21MR+169.4&suggestion=0
    The Acts of the Apostles, p. 531.2
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=AA+531.2&suggestion=0
    Confrontation, p. 48.2
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=Con+48.2&suggestion=0
    Selected Messages Book 2, p. 32.3
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=2SM+32.3&suggestion=0
    The Acts of the Apostles, p. 472.1
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=AA+472.1&suggestion=0
    Counsels to Parents, Teachers, and Students, p. 267.4
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=CT+267.4&suggestion=0
    The Acts of the Apostles, p. 562.2
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=AA+562.2&suggestion=0
    Selected Messages Book 2, p. 32.1
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=2SM+32.1&suggestion=0
    Last Day Events, p. 267.3
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=LDE+267.3&suggestion=0
    Selected Messages Book 3, p. 355.4
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=3SM+355.4&suggestion=0
    Last Day Events, p. 268.3
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=LDE+268.3&suggestion=0
    The Acts of the Apostles, p. 562.1
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=AA+561.2A&suggestion=0
    Steps to Christ, p. 65.1
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=SC+65.1&suggestion=0
    Ye Shall Receive Power, p. 66.4
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=YRP+66.4+&suggestion=0
    From the Heart, p. 47.3
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=FH+47.3&suggestion=0
    The Great Controversy, p. 425.1
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=GC+425.1&suggestion=0
    Heaven, p. 90.4
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=Hvn+90.4&suggestion=0
    The Faith I Live By, p. 287.7
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=FLB+287.7&suggestion=0
    Selected Messages Book 3, p. 355.4
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=3SM+355.4&suggestion=0
    The Ministry of Healing, p. 466.1
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=The+Ministry+of+Healing%2C+466&suggestion=0
    The Spirit of Prophecy, vol. 4, p. 320.3
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=4SP+320.3+&suggestion=0
    Humble Hero, p. 353.8
    m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=HH+353.8+&suggestion=0

    • @iamprotestant3337
      @iamprotestant3337 3 года назад

      One can be without sin yet still a sinner... I understand that we can not become sinless yet we can be sin free. Now, we can as Jesus calls for; “go and sin no more” John5:14

  • @jacquelynyoung221
    @jacquelynyoung221 3 года назад +1

    God has given Brother Veith gift of teaching.

  • @rickhinojosa5455
    @rickhinojosa5455 3 года назад +71

    Let's ALL fast and pray for Walter and Martin, their families, and all the amazing Discoveries staff. Most certainly the enemy is super wroth with their efforts to proclaim the three angels messages and expose the unfruitful works of darkness!! 🙏

    • @jjespy7778
      @jjespy7778 3 года назад +1

      From what the SOP says, we are to fast and pray for the Holy spirit to come into us to have a closer walk with God and to have understanding the scriprures and to have a will to do Gods will no matter what. I have never read to fast and pray for people. If we have the Holy spirit in us we will pray the right prayers and not ask for things we shouldn't. God says don't worry about what to pray, for the Holy spirit will give you the words to say.

  • @cindyjean3208
    @cindyjean3208 3 года назад +8

    Blessed be the name of the Lord 😊🙏🏻😊

  • @healthrethink
    @healthrethink 3 года назад +5

    I have grappled with this issue for months. The more I study the Bible and Spirit of Prophecy, the more clear our sinful state becomes. The more one learns, the more you see how high God's perfection is. And the contrast with yourself becomes so so so great. This has been an incredibly valuable and enlightening 2-part study. Thank you so so so much for your time and effort in studying this topic, compiling the evidence out of God's truth, and sharing it with all of us. May God bless you abundantly.

  • @bunnielynn777
    @bunnielynn777 3 года назад +7

    Praise God for Walter & Martin. Thank you for sharing the truth with the world 🙏🏼❤️🙏🏼

  • @alllthatinacan
    @alllthatinacan 3 года назад +9

    Beautiful message. Righteousness through Christ ❤️

  • @Gatekeeper901
    @Gatekeeper901 3 года назад

    Thank you father God for these wonderful people, keep them and their families safe....amen

  • @honesthose
    @honesthose 3 года назад +17

    Lord, Thank you for sending Walter Veith and Martin Smith for such a time as this.

  • @melissas.5814
    @melissas.5814 3 года назад +2

    This has helped me understand biblical perfection IMMENSELY! I cannot thank the both of you enough for this! To God be the glory! Amen! 🙌🏽🙏🏽

  • @Prophecyhelps101com
    @Prophecyhelps101com 3 года назад +5

    Nothing in my hand I bring, only to His cross I cling!~

  • @anonymous-ep2bz
    @anonymous-ep2bz 3 года назад +5

    "None of the apostles and prophets ever claimed to be without sin. Men who have lived the nearest to God, men who would sacrifice life itself rather than knowingly commit a wrong act, men whom God has honored with divine light and power, have confessed the sinfulness of their nature. They have put no confidence in the flesh, have claimed no righteousness of their own, but have trusted wholly in the righteousness of Christ." {Acts of the Apostles 561.1}

  • @crismi144
    @crismi144 3 года назад +17

    THANK YOU SO MUCH BROTHER WALTER THIS HAS HELPED ME SOOOO MUCH SEE YOU SOON BY HIS GRACE AND POWER WHEN JESUS COMES

  • @rubencopoceanu
    @rubencopoceanu 3 года назад

    Praise God for causing His light shine even brighter as the darkness thickens. Let those that have ears, hear.

  • @susangibson6979
    @susangibson6979 3 года назад +2

    I wanted to thank you! I have never understood the Bible as much as I do now. You, dear Walter put it into an easy way of understanding. I attended a church for over 10 years and never got the answers that I got in this one message here today. God bless you and your ministry! I praise God daily for letting me find your teachings.

  • @elitecleanrestoration1219
    @elitecleanrestoration1219 3 года назад +30

    As God’s people we must live up to the light that we have.
    Those that come in at the 11th hour will accept the light given and be accounted Righteous by Christ.

  • @dahliakennedy838
    @dahliakennedy838 3 года назад +13

    Amen hallelujah praise the lord thank you Jesus

  • @joycetembo7317
    @joycetembo7317 3 года назад

    Thank for this powerful lesson again. May the almighty God add a blessing to your ministry and your families Walter and Martin.

  • @qhazwel
    @qhazwel 3 года назад +5

    As we grow further and further from our particular sinful appetites we grow closer to that perfection and thereby closer to Christ.

  • @sacredtruthministry4839
    @sacredtruthministry4839 3 года назад +5

    This is the most profound study i have ever heard. Thanks Walter and Martin for your dedication

  • @sealedsoon
    @sealedsoon 3 года назад +15

    What an awesome excellent discussion that provides hope for all. Praise God for this blessing showing His grace.

  • @judymaryreid
    @judymaryreid 3 года назад +24

    So appreciated this. I've been pondering these topics since I became a Christian at 24, decades ago. Christ is our righteousness. He that hath the Son hath life. We die daily and confess our great need of His perfect righteousness. We know without Him we can do nothing (good, spiritual etc.). We invite the Holy Spirit to work in us to will and to do His good pleasure. We make choices. He provides strength and power in our lives. We pray and learn through study of Him. We grow, but at every step, problem, stumbling, victory...Christ is our only righteousness.
    I loved what you said about God declaring us righteous etc., but we can never do that. Truly, in ourselves we see how deficient we are. Having said that, we have assurance by faith in the promises of God's Word.If he declares it, we accept it by faith. It's like a 2 sided coin...we are totally unworthy yet declared perfect in Christ.
    The parable of the workers all receiving the same coin came to mind. The early workers complained they had worked all day and the very recently hired workers received the same wage. Christ's merit, not ours, is always our reward, regardless how long we've been a Christian.
    This parable also fits well into the last generation theology. Last or first, long dead or alive at His coming, our passport to heaven is always the wonderful, perfect righteousness of our lovely Saviour.
    Thank you for tackling this.

    • @alhende7591
      @alhende7591 3 года назад +2

      On the right track. May the Lord continue to keep you faithful unto Him.

    • @joobalee5776
      @joobalee5776 3 года назад +1

      jo ward: Ah, such a beautiful testimonial. I ran parallel with you in many of your thoughts and experiences.
      Thank you for this bravery to share. Thought of, paraphrased: "Confess your faults one to another, and pray for one another that you may be healed. Abundant Blessings!

    • @scottybt3652
      @scottybt3652 3 года назад +1

      Wow!! You got it sir! The third angels message in verity. Sound s like you have looked into the 1888 message there. Spread the good news!!

  • @bonniewilliams9171
    @bonniewilliams9171 3 года назад +19

    Thank you once again, Gentlemen, for an excellent study!
    May the LORD continually bless, protect, provide for, strengthen you so you can continue to strengthen us as we are making our way home!

  • @joemakuta4104
    @joemakuta4104 3 года назад +15

    Thank you Walter and Martin. You both are truly blessed. Keep on.--Thank you both again!

  • @Countdown-ct7iv
    @Countdown-ct7iv 3 года назад +7

    My two favourite teachers, walter and Martin, God help us to see his face in the end and to be found ready in Jesus name.

  • @Gladi80r
    @Gladi80r 3 года назад +13

    Yes God never changes so we can be perfect only in Christ

    • @scottybt3652
      @scottybt3652 3 года назад +1

      In Christ is the WAY. His righteousness !

  • @nicholaschansa6271
    @nicholaschansa6271 3 года назад +2

    Very powerful presentation.It has helped me so much.God be your shield guys.

  • @marcelocarmo7738
    @marcelocarmo7738 3 года назад +3

    May God keep blessing you Walter and Martin! Maranata and happy Sabbath!!

  • @elizabeth2848
    @elizabeth2848 3 года назад +33

    You are clearing up so much confusion I had about the sealing and end time “status” of the righteous vs unrighteous. THANK YOU

    • @salometeao2293
      @salometeao2293 3 года назад +2

      Praise God for His Marvelous Words of Truth.
      Thank you to you servants of the Most High, may God continue to bless you and the work that you're doing.
      AMEN

  • @josephvalenzuela5728
    @josephvalenzuela5728 3 года назад +2

    So much blessed with this #61 series

  • @alhende7591
    @alhende7591 3 года назад +15

    I am happy that I have a Choice in my Salvation through Jesus Christ.
    I am content to make No Other Choice than to continually Choose Jesus Christ as my Lord and Saviour; my Righteousness; although it comes with severe lashings out at me by the adversary and those through whom He works.
    By God's grace I'll continuously:
    Dwell in the secret place of the most High; under the shadow of the Almighty. He is my Refuge and my Fortress; I shall continue to trust in Him; His Truth shall be my Shield and Buckler.
    Thank You, dear Lord for Choosing me; and for helping me to each day, make You my Choice.
    Thank you to my friends at AD Africa Ministries. This presentation was very necessary to be made. The Lord continues to be with you.
    LOL, Blessings, Prayers.

  • @kajunox
    @kajunox 3 года назад +2

    Another very deep lecture. My mind is still unraveling it all God Bless.

  • @cesarr5006
    @cesarr5006 3 года назад +10

    Amen and amen; praise be to our God for ever and ever

  • @scottybt3652
    @scottybt3652 3 года назад +5

    Wonderful presentation! This episode has changed my life, thank you guys!

  • @mariomigueldario558
    @mariomigueldario558 3 года назад +31

    I need prayers I just lost my mother

    • @marilynmitchell1644
      @marilynmitchell1644 3 года назад +6

      Lord give Mario the strength, courage and that he needs right now. Lord you know the pain he is going through. The loss of a loved one is unbearable especially a mother. Empower him with your strength. Thank you for the hope of the resurrection of the dead in the last day. Let your son Mario know he is alone. You are with him even until the end. Bless all of his family through this painful process they are going through. In Jesus name I ask all the blessing on his behalf, amen. Accept my deepest sympathy Maroi, love you my brother, keep the faith.

    • @bunnielynn777
      @bunnielynn777 3 года назад +6

      Praying for the peace that passes understanding 🙏🏼 Praise God, it will not be long till you are reunited🙏🏼❤️🙏🏼

    • @manuhonkanen2111
      @manuhonkanen2111 3 года назад +7

      I feel your sorrow

    • @Bobblau
      @Bobblau 3 года назад +6

      May God bless you, be with you, and comfort you. Jesus is coming very soon. Be faithful.

    • @tatis6109
      @tatis6109 3 года назад +6

      I'm so sorry! May God comfort your heart! And by Christ's grace you'll meet her again very soon!! ❤

  • @myoreo2
    @myoreo2 3 года назад +11

    Thank you thank you thank you!!!!! I have been studying this over a year with all the research praying and Bible reading I have come up with the same conclusion here almost verbatim in some points made me scream with joy!!!! The correct understanding of righteousness by faith is the bottom line!! The majority of times offshoots/independence have this wrong and spread out in several different directions with the mask of different issues-Father/Son, Reforms etc but if you look behind the mask of whatever movement this is the underlying issue the majority of the time! And why? People underestimate the blinding power of Satan-He HATES the righteousness of Christ

  • @beatricenjeri740
    @beatricenjeri740 3 года назад +7

    You have explained it very well about being sinners those who believe that heaven Kingdom is express must listen to this

  • @alhende7591
    @alhende7591 3 года назад +15

    Forgetting that yesterday was Monday, I looked in the cellphone for this new posting, for the part 2 to last week's Premiere.
    Now, I'll anxiously wait for Thursday to come. I'll also continually keep AD Africa Ministries in my Prayers.

  • @gmpraone8124
    @gmpraone8124 3 года назад +3

    Thank you brethren may God bless

  • @marinoelamavronicolas7412
    @marinoelamavronicolas7412 3 года назад +11

    Thank you for the beautiful and wonderful message God bless you both for giving us this spiritual message
    From London

  • @qhazwel
    @qhazwel 3 года назад +5

    Amazing study!!!

  • @FluwerGurl
    @FluwerGurl 3 года назад +9

    Excellent! Praise the Lord for blessing you guys with this message of clarity on such a complex subject!

  • @petkoterziev2
    @petkoterziev2 3 года назад +9

    Thank you Walter and Martin for your work. You helped me a lot 🙂

  • @cheryllaurro3259
    @cheryllaurro3259 3 года назад +4

    Thank you again and again for all your efforts to educate your family... May God keep you both in the Spirit that inspires His love to be shared.

  • @TheKingofhbg
    @TheKingofhbg 3 года назад +13

    It's funny how those who come from different backgrounds are brought together b/c of one Man. Thank you Jesus for willing servants like Walter and Martin and the What's Up Prof compilations!!!!

  • @remnantyouths343
    @remnantyouths343 3 года назад +5

    I love this. I needed this. What a powerful presentation!

  • @janetpickel8399
    @janetpickel8399 3 года назад +9

    Beautiful truth by which to live.

  • @zeal4god402
    @zeal4god402 3 года назад

    Beautiful in-depth discussion, let us keep striving and maintaining Christian perfection!

  • @RelentlessHomesteading
    @RelentlessHomesteading 3 года назад +2

    At 43 minutes - good discussion about after probation closes and we are standing without a mediator. Appreciate the logic on debunking some of those myths about this time period.
    So important the phrasing "within their sphere" - I often think of those that are saved just prior to the close of probation. Those that have known the truth for decades are in a different 'sphere' than those that have more recently come to Truth. Jesus is the same throughout time - and just as the thief on the cross will make it to heaven because of faith in the merits of Christ, so to will those that are the last converts before the sealing takes place. Great - you came back to this very issue at 58 minutes, and even speaking of the thief on the cross.
    Really appreciated the talk about 'presumption'. It takes so many forms, and so often masquerades as faith. When I first came to Christ it was in a Sunday keeping denomination. They preached a 'name it claim it' sort of doctrine; where IF you had sufficient faith and stepped out in that faith - THEN God would bless you to attain. I was a baby Christian, but stepped out in a huge way and was CERTAIN God would fulfill the object of that step. SPLAT !!! Nearly ruined my life and that of my family. We can always know that when things don't go as we desire - we need to look at our apprehensions and suppositions, and not blame God. Anyway after some study God opened to me more truth on discerning between presumption and faith. Even Jesus Himself did not take the 'bait' on stepping off the precipice and the angels catching his feet; and yet we the supposed people of God so often do so.
    And yet there is a presumption as well on the other side - the side of taking NO step and doing NOTHING. There are those even in Adventism that hold that since they can do nothing on their own and that Christ will take care of them; ...that they need not trouble themselves in working towards those objects, whether it be greater scriptural knowledge (getting settled in the truth) or fidelity to Christ or in physical preparations in a world being turned upside down. For example, we have had a warning for over a hundred years about getting out of the cities, and yet many that God has blessed with the proper time and resources have not done so. Certainly there are some in city ministries which may not be able without leaving their God given duty; and God will bless their faithfulness. And yet there is a larger class which squander the resources given them by God for vacations, ostentation, and articles of pleasure, instead of relocating and meaningfully learning to garden and make other physical and mental preparations - and yet they still expect that God will bless them with what they need through the little time of trouble. They are presuming upon God, and that presumption will likely bear a very bitter harvest.

  • @howiedeklerk2950
    @howiedeklerk2950 3 года назад +1

    How great is the endless love of God, can our minds ever fully comprehend this....
    All the glory and majesty belongs to Him who sits on the everlasting throne. Amen

  • @pemphojimu
    @pemphojimu 3 года назад +10

    You guys through the holy spirit you are helping us. God bless amazing discovery and all those that reason together with these episodes as we reason together with christ (isaiah 1:18).
    Keep updating us, this is only way to go. Lets be perfect as our father in heaven is perfect. Righteousness by faith through. Thank you Prof Walter Veith and Martin. we love you.

  • @MSB780
    @MSB780 3 года назад

    Living up to the light we have as it is given from God enabling us, individually, to do so: and He will give us more light as we obey Him.

  • @jessenglish7098
    @jessenglish7098 3 года назад

    We had a sermon on this today at church by our Pastor, it was very good! This helped me further my study into these topics of discussion. Thankyou Martin and Walter 💛🙏🏼💕

  • @cynthiawebber6468
    @cynthiawebber6468 3 года назад +4

    Such a fantastic presentation! So much information!

  • @Slizzsamurai
    @Slizzsamurai 3 года назад +2

    this video was truly a blessing to me, it made a lot of things clear. i just want to say thank you for discussing this subject but most of all THANK GOD that he sets free his children and takes care of us. HALLELUJAH

  • @lynprayerfulvigilantdiscer6923
    @lynprayerfulvigilantdiscer6923 3 года назад +2

    Thank you for a clear explanation.
    1. The reason why Christ had to come to earth as a babe was, though born sinless, he had to develop a perfect human character, which was achieved by His total reliance and faith in His Father;
    2. By his faith in God, Abraham was accounted righteous, Galatians 3:6;
    3. Therefore, the righteous will be saved because they are found to fulfill Revelation 14:12; “Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God and have the faith OF Jesus.”
    4. In conclusion: “Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy,” Jude 24

  • @robnchaedickinson7864
    @robnchaedickinson7864 3 года назад +1

    Thank you brothers. I've been learning for the last 6 months. For your part in turning me to God, Jesus and the Holy spirit. I thank God for your works. Thanks again.

  • @starsrhi2335
    @starsrhi2335 3 года назад +4

    THANK YOU SO MUCH - EVERY LESSON SO IMPORTANT - EVERYONE A GEM. GOD BLESS AND KEEP EVERYONE AT AD. LOVE TO YOU.

  • @esther-louisabarnett-kraus5690
    @esther-louisabarnett-kraus5690 3 года назад +12

    Looking forward to part 2 on Friday morning Brisbane Australian time 😀

  • @lindachancellor7538
    @lindachancellor7538 3 года назад +1

    What a good conversation. Thankyou for the quotes and scriptures.

  • @justsjekabsons299
    @justsjekabsons299 3 года назад +20

    This is what i needed! Thanks for this episode! :D

  • @DinkiSander
    @DinkiSander 3 года назад +9

    Me too. Looking forward to this episode. Time is ticking...

  • @marcustraore545
    @marcustraore545 3 года назад +1

    To be honest, Walter is a great teacher. This is good stuff, for real. I need to pay more attention to “what’s up Prof ?” Blessings brethren!

  • @thesonofjesuschannel4719
    @thesonofjesuschannel4719 3 года назад +1

    ❤❤❤Thanks to you dear brothers Martin Smith & Walter veith

  • @auydithbraham-patterson2411
    @auydithbraham-patterson2411 3 года назад +1

    Hallelujah unto GOD’S ALMIGHTY SON

  • @idalinafernandes1758
    @idalinafernandes1758 3 года назад +6

    Thank you so much 🙏

  • @michaelwhite8031
    @michaelwhite8031 3 года назад +7

    Amen

  • @eugeniedean8458
    @eugeniedean8458 2 года назад

    This message was so beautiful and the clarity on this subject was very direct and to the point. Thank you so much, and may the Lord continue to bless this ministry!!🙏🏾🙏🏾

  • @beulaesther7590
    @beulaesther7590 3 года назад

    The final concluded the message in the best way

  • @luzgorrie1739
    @luzgorrie1739 3 года назад

    Thank you so much for the wonderful message ! God Bless you both and your family!

  • @anitakrznaric2286
    @anitakrznaric2286 3 года назад +11

    Eagerly waiting as always. Greetings and blessings from Croatia!

  • @yvonnelassley1260
    @yvonnelassley1260 3 года назад +6

    Praise the Lord!!

  • @stephencoombe3686
    @stephencoombe3686 3 года назад +8

    Discernment and motivation in uncertaint times . Truly appreciated god bless you both.

  • @dionnedouglas5092
    @dionnedouglas5092 3 года назад +6

    Waiting patiently

  • @MSB780
    @MSB780 3 года назад

    Amen... Thanks bunches❣️❣️❣️

  • @RyanSmith-hh8gs
    @RyanSmith-hh8gs 3 года назад

    Amen Brother's , thank you for the nourishment , God Bless you .!!!

  • @questioneverything1646
    @questioneverything1646 3 года назад +6

    Looking forward to Part 2!
    Part 1 was excellent!!

  • @pilgrim5217
    @pilgrim5217 3 года назад

    Thank you so much for this Talk! I cannot begin to tell you how encouraging it has been for me to learn this wonderful truth. God bless the both of you

  • @eddakarlsdottir147
    @eddakarlsdottir147 3 года назад +5

    Thank you 😍

  • @cherylmcgregor5108
    @cherylmcgregor5108 3 года назад

    Thank you so much from NZ

  • @miriam.tavares
    @miriam.tavares 3 года назад

    So blessed with this content !

  • @truthseeker8894
    @truthseeker8894 3 года назад +5

    How uplifting and positive it was with the thief at the cross. Even he will come to heaven one day, not studied the Bible, not baptized, he just put all his trust in Jesus Christ. It's that simple. ❤️

    • @supgreen1988
      @supgreen1988 3 года назад

      The thief on the Cross according to the book Desire of Ages was convicted and gave his life to Christ but was turned away by the scribes and Pharisees and went back to his old friends and was caught up with them and given the death penalty. Praise God that he was still convicted that Christ was the Messiah on the Cross received pardon and will have eternal life at the second coming. Not all will have that opportunity at the Cross as the thief did so I hope that you study your Bible diligently and make your salvation sure. God bless

  • @seraravasua4130
    @seraravasua4130 2 года назад

    God is Good

  • @fideliskivai2669
    @fideliskivai2669 3 года назад

    AMEN. Thank you Walter and Martin.

  • @bhingardivetussharbhingard9036
    @bhingardivetussharbhingard9036 3 года назад +9

    Love from Bharat

  • @jolienschinkel8883
    @jolienschinkel8883 3 года назад

    Dank jullie wel voor deze studie het heeft mij veel geholpen🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @gracegooch4791
    @gracegooch4791 3 года назад +3

    Being smart and informed is not enough! We need to put on Christ! Overcome as He did! He showed us the way. He said: "Go and sin no more".

    • @richardpotter6313
      @richardpotter6313 3 года назад

      Just like He presented to the adulteress, equal application of Grace (neither do I condemn you) and the law (go and sin no more). 👍

  • @davidgoulet8588
    @davidgoulet8588 3 года назад

    Thank God for this study. I needed to hear this.

  • @evancendisio9698
    @evancendisio9698 3 года назад

    i love this presentation and it has given me more light. Especially is it so much deeply shown in the SOP than i ever thought.
    Bro Walter kindly have some quotations on this issue of predestination by Waggoner and Jones and kindly share the same with us in your next presentation.

  • @rhodoracordrey904
    @rhodoracordrey904 3 года назад

    I am SHARING this to seasoned SDA for clarity . THANK YOU very much. I learned a lot .word is not enough FOR your ministry.

    • @richardpotter6313
      @richardpotter6313 3 года назад

      Most of them are members of the general conference, which has been back in bed with Rome. I even went to a service at a little country conference church and was appalled at what they were teaching and all of it was NIV, NKJV and other Vaticanus Vulgate texts. They have left their first Love.

  • @taniabeaman9313
    @taniabeaman9313 3 года назад +2

    About the thief on the cross... he asked the other thief if he doesn’t fear God? This was the 1st Angel message. One thief accepted Christ as His only SAVIOR and then he tried to witness to the other thief the 1st Angel Message. The other thief rejected it and had fallen just like Babylon .
    You see the characteristics of the 3 Angel Messages can be found in all the histories of the Bible’s. These messages prepare Gods people to stand in the Day of the Lord, which is Sunday Law onward until the earth begins its own Sabbath, the 1000 years.
    Praise the Lord!!

  • @dariolauri2770
    @dariolauri2770 3 года назад

    I want to ask a question to Professor Veith, a man of God that inspires me every time I listen to his videos. A question regarding Baptism. Is it Biblical to be baptized in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit (Matthew 28:19) or to be baptized only in the name of Jesus, as in Acts 2: 38?. Thanks Professor Veith, may God be with you and support you in your precious ministry!

  • @HayqueDori
    @HayqueDori 3 года назад +1

    This discussion has put peace in my heart knowing that we don't have to become perfect on our own, but through Christ. I recently heard other ministries push last generation theology and became very discouraged. I have been praying for discernment and this video has answered my prayers. Thank you AD.

  • @Romans1v20
    @Romans1v20 3 года назад

    Appreciate the respectful manner in which this is presented. There is much Truth, but where I differ is in the idea that there is no difference between the last generation and previous generations. By definition, the last generation lives without an Intercessor which no other generation has ever done; they sing the song of Moses and if The Lamb, which none other will be allowed to do, and they sing a new song which no one else could learn except the 144,000 (see Revelation 14:3; 15:3,4). They also endure a time if terrible such as has never been (which again makes them unique!); Daniel 12:1. They have a special place and heaven, as they have an exclusive experience with Christ that others never did partake of. Otherwise there's no reason to single out the hundred and forty four thousand. I definitely agree though, that this will be no less an act of Grace by the Almighty then it was for any other generation. But it is so clear. The final generation will not merely have the experience of Abraham, Adam, Noah, Lot, it even Job, but they will have they go through the Gethsemane experience of Jesus Christ who did no sin, because in his agony he declared, "not my will but thy will be done." He had the ability to sin, but did no sin. No one who takes this stance (of not my will but Thine) will be living in willful or even unwillful sin, lest God should be made a liar, and lest it be possible to be led of the Spirit and led into sin (see Galatians 5:16). Special indeed, but no less an act of God's grace. Further, if we're going to say that not being able to send means not having a choice oh, then you have to say the same thing about choosing to follow Jesus. Can the people decide to stop following Jesus after the decree goes forth? Yes! Will they? No! If that is true of their commitment to Jesus, why would it not also be true of their decision to not sin?

  • @Zattat005
    @Zattat005 3 года назад +1

    This was a very good discussion. The bottom line is that we are covered by the righteousness of Christ and that is the only thing that qualifies us to enter heaven with or without a mediator. I do think the last generation is going to go through hell starting from the enforcement of the mark of the beast through the time of trouble which some past generations didn’t have to experience so the seal of God is necessary for survival. I do think the seal is more than just settling into the truth but God’s supernatural means of keeping you from falling and shielding you from temptation otherwise it would seem like man’s own effort to be settled into the truth. Maybe Walter and Martin should do a session of what it means to be settled into the truth.

    • @alhende7591
      @alhende7591 3 года назад

      They have done so time and again.

  • @jalejo7
    @jalejo7 3 года назад +1

    Amen!

  • @marecavakaloloma8589
    @marecavakaloloma8589 3 года назад +1

    Amen 🙏

  • @LJ4511
    @LJ4511 3 года назад +1

    Amen!!

  • @gracegooch4791
    @gracegooch4791 3 года назад +2

    The secrete things belong to God!

  • @supgreen1988
    @supgreen1988 3 года назад

    We are not sinless but we are to purpose in our hearts never to sin against God as given by example in Jesus as he declared himself without sin KJV John 14:30-31
    30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.
    31 But that the world may know that I love the Father; and as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go hence.
    If Jesus is our example than we must always do as he has done with humble and contrite heart