Will a Performamce CDI make a Scooter FASTER?
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- Опубликовано: 19 авг 2024
- Went ahead and tossed on a performance Malossi CDI box and tested if it made a difference on my Yamaha Zuma 70cc Stunt Build.
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I put a new clutch and variator on my 50cc zummer and now it only goes 25 what do I need to do to make it faster it sucks
You think the rollers to heavy
That was called the bws / beewizz over here I remember when they first come out they started the big wheel craze for all mopeds to come
@@Deoge4you'll be better off boring the exhaust at front with a rotary tool & carburettor inlet & bigger aftermarket air filter if you want more speed let it breath
@@officialmysteriousrider130 ok so I'll have to do that I did mix match the rollers 5gram and 6gram take off is great top speed only 35 so take the stock airbox that I bought off and put the cone air filter back on huh
in a world where most of the people want fast bikes, it's refreshing to see people enjoying scooters
Yeah they make the best hair dryers man 😜
@@natsterjam I agree, if you don't wear a helmet 🤣
Can't argue with 60mpg 😂
@@travis2893 I get 60MPG riding with a passenger on my CB500X, that thing must get 100MPG for sure
@@travis2893 I can! 57Mpg on my Kawasaki 650 Versys! 😜
I have an '08 Honda Ruckus, stock GET 49cc, with aftermarket exhaust and carb, and extensive jet tuning. I am firmly convinced that there are more gains to be had from transmission mods than from basic engine mods. A good variator (I am currently running a Malossi) can make a big difference. Simply changing variator weights makes a huge difference, even with the stock variator. Example, my Ruckus came with 7g weights and was very sluggish, I swapped to 5.5g and greatly improved acceleration and top speed. I have an NCY CDI, which supposedly advances timing 2 degrees, but the only difference I can really tell is that it eliminated the rev limiter.
I'm in the process of overhauling an 07 I got for next to nothing. Polini variator, new clutch, bearings, and the metropolitan final drive trans upgrade.
I'm actually starting with the trans before I work on engine, engine runs fine but the trans was in real bad shape.
on 2 strokes the timing should be more retarded at high revs for power
aaaaah bruv, you giving me flashbacks from 20 years ago , thats mad you could find this series still to this day, their the best version
I put my Malossi cdi on my fully stock aero 50 and man it is make a difference in low to mid range. Felt more responsive
Maybe the few degrees its advances the timing its enough to not allow a full burn in the cylinder.. Great vid.
MOPBOYZ, LET'S GET IT!
Do you want a Yamaha BW’s cw 1997 model
Huges mods
Crank & s6 sport piston & cylinder kit
S6 intake
Malossi MHR overrange
Malossi 70 pipe
MVT inner roter ignition
MVT cdi
Polini cp21 carb
NCY quick throttle
Premix only
£700 GBP I can get it shipped out to you. They were only made for the UK & E.U market so it will be a rare bike for your collection 🥳 it’s done about 10 miles since it was put together.
Message me for a video if you’re interested 👍
keeping the zuma youtube alive 💯
Always wondered if they made a difference and now I know, you’re a real g Trevor 🤝
Best way to see if it actually makes a difference is to use a timing light. All that a "performance" CDI can do to affect anything is have a different ignition timing curve, or a higher/deleted rev limiter.
Run the bike with stock CDI, check ignition timing thru the rev range with a timing gun and marks on the fan/flywheel, then repeat for the aftermarket one.
If the new CDI has more advanced timing (advanced as in it sparks earlier) then it should make more power and feel more responsive. Too advanced obv and you risk knocking. Sometimes you will need to use higher octane but you probably use high octane on a big bore anyway.
Thats a beautiful bike. Love that build.
Seeing you easy one-kick the Zuma made me envious. I just bought a Yamaha Razz off marketplace...I have an Elite and a Vino, but I didn't know the deal with the Razz. Single speed transmission without variator, and the most finicky little engine I've ever dealt with. I can barely walk because I've kicked the thing over so many times. I got it without the factory airbox, and apparently these things are nearly impossible to get right without that.
As far as your CDI goes: if the spark is happening at the exact right time, it's going to burn the fuel more efficiently, meaning you need less fuel. OR the new advance curve is wrong for your setup, and the spark isn't happening at the right time(for that 75% throttle rpm point), meaning you can't get a complete burn, leaving some fuel left over and causing the engine to load up and break up. Either way it seems you fixed it with tuning 👍
Have you pressure checked it? Maybe your pilot jet is too small?
@@Jpmcfly209 haven't pressure checked. It doesn't smoke excessively so I think the trans side crank seal is fine, and I sprayed carb cleaner on the magneto side seal with no change in rpm. Also replaced reed block gasket(previous owner glued it on with gray RTV and blocked the reeds). Pilot jet is probably too small(it's the stock 46). I have a Uni foam filter, and I made an airbox which helped everywhere but starting. It's way harder to start when it's cold outside which obviously points to it being lean down low, but normally the choke will take care of that. The choke definitely works, but it's still hard to start. I'm so broke right now I can't afford a pilot jet haha
UPDATE: it was the magneto side crank seal. It was leaking. Found the leak with brakleen. Fixed it and scooter started right up
I miss my 99 bwsr all stage6 build. She got stole and got it back destroy. love your scoot
How’d I JUST found out bout this channel ? Scooter vids go hard asl 💯👏🏽
wonderful how you can just roam the streets without fearing from police.. here in switzerland we have to have that constant fear of police being around the corner with tuned mopeds
Same in the Netherlands
same in germany
same in slovenia
Not that way in Kentucky in the US
That was a fun experiment! Nice work Sir. 👍👍
Bigger rear wheel/taller tyre 👀
will slightly change gearing. Probably making it more stable to Wheely and less aggressive pulling away with the strong clutch springs
YUPPRz
I put unlocked rev limiters on all my two stroke projects but I’ve only ever noticed a difference on my Honda nsr50. It was rev limited before to I think around 6000rpm. With the unlocked cdi it would go to 9000
I solved the "more power, more speed" issue. I bought a motorcycle. 😂 love the BWS though🤙🏼
That dog is too cute he doesnt Care how loud it is he just wanna be wit u😂
7:00 the bmw in the garage 🗣🗿🔛🔝
Your beam pattern was pointed to the sky😂
Great video but tbh the whole time I was trying to get a better look at the beetle 👀 🔥 lol
that CDI unit allows for stronger voltage/current delivery upto 20,000 rpm, the reason you felt that bogging at low/mid range was rpm related the engine is being held back due to the CDI and the pipe.
with a full on race pipe that can allow you to have a higher rpm something like 14,000 rpm you would feel a lot more difference, another thing is you really need a gear up kit to let that pipe take full effect , once that pipe really kicks in around 12krpm and byond then you would feel it.
also these CDI's do not have an rpm limiter ;) , so gear up kit and a more pokey pipe would unleash a lot more rpm and a huge difference in speed and power.
Makes a difference but worth the cost is up to riding style keep killin it
weld the rear disc brake on the zoom in Russia they weld the rear disc brake on them
you can buy a kit that you don’t even need to weld to cases you just need sr50 rims and the kit, very simple. i just don’t like the look of 12” wheels
Hello! I think you should start an aerox project i know they are hard to find in the us but definently worth it , they are the most tunable 50ccs
True cid box works 👌
Port & polish , exhaust, flywheel, carb upgrade these little things can fly.
Always a good day when moboyz post
Thanks for the content
I have a 70 cc peugeot speedfighter 2 with the same exhaust
love you vids , my first scooter was a Yamaha Jog fs , from Denmark
whoa. @ 3:50 you are directly in my hood where i am always mashing on my blacked out honda pcx 150cc around there n all over of course. ---- paul from SWS is building me a custom 90's yamaha zuma i want as my 2stroke shredder n wheelie machine. i gotta get a mopboyz sticker and perhaps 5 minute crash course in not tool'n a wheelie n breakin my self off lol. dig the content dude. -RICKY
when your engine sputters when you give it half throttle it is because it is getting too much petrol and therefore the needle has to be moved down further, otherwise you have to aim the nozzle but in most cases it just helps to move the needle down further 👍 if you ride in hot weather it should have less gas than if you ride in cold weather 🙂
this is also why an engine that runs in cold weather makes more hp than if it runs in warm weather. however, it will of course also use more petrol in cold weather.. on a turbo motor you can really see a difference on a dyno if you measure hp in 35c° compared to 0c° 👍
It's funny that the scooter in the US is called a Yamaha Zuma And here in Denmark it's called a Yamaha booster 😅 in Denmark it's a really popular scooter model people here love to tune them a lot and many of them gets over 25hp out on the engine 🔥
Here in South Africa it's called a Yamaha BWS, don't ask me what it stands for.. They sell for a lot of money, like 5 times the price of the average 2nd hand gy6 150cc. Quite rare to see one. I have a Yamaha Cygnus RS 125cc 4stroke and I think it's ts probably better..
@@albertmaneveld9731 BWS stands for Big Wheel Scooter, a throwback to mopeds that used to run bicycle style wheels, both smaller and much skinnier than these wheels. This model is known as BWS, Zuma, pre-bug Zuma and MBK Booster or Stunt in different markets throughout the world. So be carefully what parts you buy, as definition comes primarily from running either Vertical oriented Cylinder (earlier - more tunable) to Horizontal Cylinder (later - known as Bug Eye in US) which is generally less popular with the tuning crowd. Happy Scooting.....
I would rather say that the scooter needs a change of the idle jet rather than an adjustment at the needle level but this can also come from the needle yes , it must be checked.
Otherwise Yamaha = BWS, MBK = Booster (also known as Booster spirit / spirit)
Remove the standard centrifugal clutch and vario ,Put a mallossi fly clutch and mallossi lightend vario with balanced rollers !
I guarantee the front end will go up all the time.
Really it's a combination of a lot of upgrades,
Big bore cylinder,big carb,exhaust.
I built some insane zip sp scooters in Holland.
Holland is where to go if you want insane scooter mods.
Scheveningen has a very famous scooter shop ,with drag scooters
this is not stock anything
@@MOPBOYZ cool what have you done to it.
I love tuning two stroke.
Had a zip sp
I’m not a mechanic at All. Some are naturally good with motors.
I have a 1979 Vespa 200 P, a lot of chrome on it. Needs rebuild. Given to me but stored in a barn.
I gotta rebuild everything (re-chrome),repaint, get new wiring, engine taken apart and rebuilt/cleaned.
This scooter has 3rd spare wheel! It would be a SUPER BEAUTY!
I WAS THINKING OF ASKING VESPA FOR NEW/BIGGER MOTOR TO FIT IN BIKE (KEEP ORIGINAL MOTOR ON SHELF/REBUILT).
ARE YOU INTO REBUILDS?
You got that Zuma dialed now!
new to the channel! but that old ford van in the background!!! absolutely beautiful! hope you had fun on your ride!
Come to sweden, people drive mopeds and supermotard versions all modified "trimmade in swedish" You can legally drive one around 45 km/h but some cheap adjustments and a new exhaust your going 70 easy.
Loving every minute of it.
i wish i could do wheelies!! ;( i would be soo cool arround my friends!!.. but i will newer understand it how its done?! cuz my ballance is so low! ... i cant do it even on ordinary non motor-bike bike and i am affraid i wll hurt myself badly ;(
I have a 2 stroke 50 cc gilera skp that is old as the hills..... But will reach 55 mph no probs...had it for 5 yrs and i have done nothing to it .i dont know if this is normal but i love it ..
Y'all mobbing
What do you mean for this set-up??
Malossi sport 70cc
Malossi multivar 2000
White springs for cloutch and yellow in the midlle
Malossi reed valve
Dellorto 17,5
Polini scooter team 2🙂
Sorry for bad inglish
A performance CDI made my completly stock 49cc scooter go from 25km/h top speed to 70km/h top speed. So i would say yes it makes it faster
Great video guys reminds me when I owned CS Phoenix in the UK
Love the videos. Can you confirm, you had a problem at low to medium throttle? you moved the needle up by moving the c clip down so you gave it more fuel??? I’m learning. Thanks from Australia 🇦🇺
I need to get one
Hello from Australia- what make and model scooter should I buy?
Tomos Automatik
I used to get good results with the malossi cdi' s but always had issues with the pm tuning ones
what kind of oil do you drive, where smells good. for separate lubrication injectect
Good vid. Took them boys to school Cdi.. sounded better for bug wheely on old man mop 😅
😂 idk man ever since I brought a moped man I can’t get enough of these videos
Bro on the orange ped looks like Chris rock Lmfaoooo😭
Can u do a full mod list on your prebug stunt bike? Like everything else
i have build series on it !
Breaking up means it was running too rich in the 25-75% throttle range, right?
put a polini 14/41 gering in, it will run master
You should visit the Netherlands once man, we have a huge moped community here
Wondering if I put one on a stock scorch 49cc Would it mess the engine up??
It shouldnt most parts like that is universal and all it does make the time to the max speed alittle faster fron others i would normally go with the blue 150cc cdi box
Is there anyway you could post the wiring diagram just for the malossi cdi? I lost the manual
it just plugs in , no wiring needed
come to denmark and ill show you how we tun mopeds
I could be sick if you Got a mvt Racing ignition for the Blue zuma
i’ve heard a lot of bad about those !
@@MOPBOYZ Many og my Friends even my self run it on my derbi senda and my Friends run Them om Yamaha Minarelli Engines and they make Way more power then with original ignition
hello from kazakhstan stuntrider:)
Ive always kind of wondered what you load your tool bag with? I too want to only bring the necessities
Carb from China come set up for China there below sea level so most of the time the middle slot is for usa depending where sea level is
it’s not from china lol it’s polini
it really depends on the stroke of your engine if it fires on the down stroke and this cdi makes it on the upstroke this could make a big win, especially for other engine or carb mods.
Ok, with all due respect, sod the silly little scooter, lets see more of that Beetle Bro!! 😂❤
QUICK ANSWER: YES
But be careful on 4strokes, cause valves are gonna float.
My standard Peugeot Tweet RS50 can do 70kmh with an unlimited CDI, but valves begin to float at 65kmh.. Only did 50kmh with a standard CDI
50 4t scooters often have this problem with the valves , You often have to check them, especially when you modify them.
Some scooters it does nothing to. My tao tao bws 50 it didnt do anything for, my tomos 50 it made a 15 mph difference, now i have a genuine roughhouse that i bought for way less than they sell for, it dont feel like it needs one. It already does like 45 mph.
bro if you get a yamaha aerox put on 70cc 24mm carb and much more it would be hyper 80mph whit right gearing and tunes
In italy the booster is the best with malossi performance
I bought an almost new one and the last owner put a performance CDI and it doesn't seem to go faster than any other 50cc that I have drove. It seems to have no low end as i need to twist the throttle over a quarter turn before it starts to move. and it has no hold on a slope. I have requested the original CDI and i will see if that is better. I just hope he didn't mess with the timing.
I need to make my 2022 200 suzuki burgman go faster. What do I need?
Crazy didn’t know u lived in vegas
Brother if you do answer .. is this MBK BOOSTER SPIRIT ??
I HAD 1 .. I LOVED IT THEN 1 DAY THEY STOLE IT NEVER FOUND . IT is very rare in mauritius island 😢
I have a 2008 APRILIA SPORTCITY 250 EFI. RESTRICTOR STILL INSTALLED.
IF YOU GOT AHOLD OF IT….. GEEZE. I CAN TAKE IT 80MPH AND I AM 266LBS.
I want to know if he could help me? I’ve been looking for a video on RUclips, that shows how the gas from a scooter goes into the carburetor. I have a scooter, and the only way it stays on is if I put gas directly into the carburetor.
CDI may only buy you an extra 2 or 3 mph. You can’t squeeze out any more power from a 50cc engine than what’s it’s designed to put out. The only mod that will make any real difference is a big bore kit.
hey cool video. did you happen to get a chance to see your RPM's at top speed? and idle speed RPM? on your bore kit what size carb did you change it out to a larger carb to accommodate the bore kit upgrade? and one more question: how in the hell do you wheelie on a scooter? how do you even practice that without crashing or did you crash alot trying to wheelie. oh and what about variation rollers what weight are yours? sorry lots of questions but you seem like you know your stuff pretty good. do you use non-ethanol gas? do you have a petcock or shut off valve? what is your fuel/air screw on your carb set out to how many turns? im sure elevation plays a factor in that too. any tips would be appreciated and much needed. with mine its one thing after another got me almost to the point of smashing it to bits and laying it to rest.
Guys it’s not gonna do anything for 2stroke maybe a GY6 deal but you’re stretching it.
haha not bad for a baby scoot. I convert all my Vintage Italian Scooters to Electric now they all do 180 kph love it
I had problems with the maloasi CDI
Loving that shit. here in denmark all criminals run hardcore overclocked mopeds looking mad evil
Tell me this what's a good moped to get I'm really wanting one not big on the year it's in buy want one that's meant to last and add more to it along the year
Got a chines 50cc I’m trying hook it up already did a big bore kit on so it’s a 80cc now supposedly need some help on what to do next just want to get it to hit 50 mph
I had the same problem just never fixed it
Ah yes the 2stroke moped gang roaming the streets
I'm about to take possession of a new 2024 Genuine Roughhouse, can you suggest which mods would be useful for a street build for commuting with really good acceleration and a bit higher top speed? It's a Mireille 2-stroke, essentially a Zuma engine. I want to add a pipe, possibly rollers if necessary to balance the pipe, and if necessary, reject the carb. I don't want to void factory warranty and the pipe won't do that according to the dealer. So I don't want a big bore kit or anything like that right now. I've had a 2-stroke Kymco Super 9 and that was a fantastic little scoot, it was even water cooled. If you or anyone has anything helpful to suggest, it would be very helpful. I can do the mods myself. I'm just looking for tips from someone much more well versed in the topic than myself. I appreciate any information.
Ok im late but it sounds like you need a bigger carbulator
what are the connections?
quick question should i leave my autochoke or should i put manual choke on my scooter
We want perfect Turkish subtitle option please🙏🖤🖤
What you think about the Yamaha slider or Aerox?
I swear my cdi has no rev limiter and I was going 40 yesterday then my bike overheated
the bogging at 25% to 75% is the small jet not main jet... or could be the gas is getting bubbly when the karburator is vibrating and foams the gas
no it’s the needle , i showed fixing it in the vid hahah
@@MOPBOYZ cool! is its in middle or above the middle one
Idle jet is for up to 25% throttle. Needle and atomiser is 25% to 75%. Main jet is 75% to full throttle.
you should do aerox engine swap for some scooter you have
Link your speedometer,enter of the booster please
superbe le booster one
Was it your pilot jet !?