Rey's terrible very bad Lightsaber skills: Star Wars
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- Опубликовано: 10 фев 2025
- Rey doesn't know how to fight with a lightsaber.
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while i agree that her wide stance is a terrible stance to fight from. It is a common training stance used to amplify and teach hip alignment and how to properly position yourself to direct your line of force. However in a sword/lightsaber fight, it is totally useless, and just asking for you too kneecap yourself, get force kicked over, and then be cut into toasty little bits by your opponent.
That’s what I was thinking at that part of the video too.
I was about to say something similar. In kong fu it's called horse stance if anyone cares to know.
She learned from Broom Stick - Lightsaber Boy.
When I was 10 years old, using plastic tubes, I was a better lightsaber fighter than Rey. I was also better at grammar and spelling too.
In karate there is stance called kiba dachi that is similar to this, but it is also use to attack/defend from an opponent coming from the side.
In the words of Count Dooku: "such clumsy, unrefined swordsmanship."
Veloziraptor111
I know that reference.
Twice the dagger, double the fail.
Imagine how disgusted the count would be by her form though frl lmao
Imagine if she was actually trained...Dooku can shut up or send his force ghost to do it.
Count Dooku would devastate Rey in a duel
"An apprentice that trains themself has a fool for a master"
Old jedi saying
So what your implying is that Luke is a fool? Have you watched the movies and Luke being a master and training padawans? Or Is it that your defending episode 8 which is a disaster and a catastrophe? I have so many questions, and please dont take it as I'd I nudging you or hating on you I just wanna know. : )
Disney made Luke a fool
@@moodylad2033 But Luke didn't train himself... I don't know what you mean
I mean at this point Rey might as well be Grand Master
@@moodylad2033 This saying actually has two meanings, and I would argue that both of them are applicable to The Last Jedi.
"An apprentice that trains themself has a fool for a master"
Meaning 1 (Face Value): The Apprentice has a Master who has been designated to train them in their art, and that Master is a fool.
In this case, the Master is doing such a poor job at the training that the Apprentice feels they have to take the training into their own hands. If the Master knows about this self-training, and they do nothing about it, the Master is an even bigger fool because they are allowing the Apprentice the opportunity to learn everything wrong.
In "The Last Jedi", Luke refuses to train Rey. She came to him with some expectation of being trained in the Force with him as her Master. She makes it abundantly clear that she will continue to train with or without him. He still refuses, and even goes so far as to send her away entirely. He refuses to train her, knowing she will only end up getting hurt, and his attempts at dissuading her from pursuing the path are mediocre dad-with-anger-issues at best. His failure to either train her safely or convince her of the dangers she will face trying to do it alone points to Luke being, in a real sense, a Fool.
Meaning 2 (Jedi Word Play): The Apprentice does not have another person to be their Master. They train themself, and thus become their own Master. Master and Apprentice are the same person, and that person is a fool.
This meaning points blame at the Apprentice. For one reason or another, they decide that practicing, training, and learning the art by themself is better than being guided by one with knowledge and experience. This opens their training up to many flaws, ineffective methods, and (in the case of learning to use a light saber) serious risk to life and limb. Only a fool would seek to learn everything themself from scratch rather than find someone who can teach them.
And here we see that the saying applies to Rey to a T. She is reckless, and impulsive, and in many ways a horrible student. She is so desperate in her pursuit of meaning, of training, that she doesn't even blink at the idea of running away to train with Kylo Ren, who models himself after one of the most feared murder-machines the galaxy has ever seen. Rey is many things. Anti-social. Abandoned. Closed off. Protected by Plot Armor. But above all, she is a fool.
So, while the usage of the saying is generally pointed more towards one than the other, this particular usage applies with equal strength to both the Apprentice and the Master. They are both fools.
And the Last Jedi was a bad movie.
Obi-Wan: *uses lightsaber defensively, waits for flaw in opponent's offense*
Anakin: *uses lightsaber offensively, maintaining a constant attack to overwhelm the enemy*
Yoda: *flips everywhere and jumps off walls to attack enemy from blind spot*
Rey: *baseball bat*
Yoda is the base ball
@@dermoc359 you missed the point its a light saber but it can burn straight trough your head
@@averyniceguy3964 I think you missed my joke there lol
@@averyniceguy3964 And i understand the point
id take the baseball bat over Rey anytime
If Rey encountered Count Dooku, he would be so digusted at Rey's skills he won't even challenge her anymore
Hed just ragdoll her with a force choke.
He would just "puny god" her
Rey Skywalker, I was expecting that someone with such reputation would be a little... more skilled
If I saw Rey’s skills, I’d probably say, “you’re not even worth the effort, kid.”
Kylo is much better, yet the guy turns into an idiot and forgets how to fight everytime the guy faces rey. Lol
"Your technique is raw, and your lightsaber is a play-thing." ~~ Count Dooku in SW:Battlefront 2 (2017) when he's facing Rey in MP.
He has a point
he spits facts like nobody's business
Technique*
@@markielarkie6288 Thanks :)
He was supposed to a really good dueling
Rey: AAAAAAAAAAAAAH
Kylo: (why is she throwing herself at me, does she think this is effective?)
Kylo: you need a teacher
Rey: I'LL NEVER JOIN THE DARK SIDE
Kylo: no you need training in general
Same counts for him he is also very bad
@@rango962 yeah his fighting is also wack. Especially since he trained with Luke for a good amount of time before he turned to the dark side. The whole sequel trilogy is just so bad that I wish that they scratch it off the surface of the earth and let dave filoni and george lucas take over again.
Johannes Rummel no he’s super experienced
Awad Ihmud no that’s a common misconception that kylo is bad a fighting but he’s actually extremely skilled
@@arctixanarchy8908 oh I bet he is really skilled. I just don't like the way they portrayed him against rey. He lost to her every time. In the prequels, Anakin loses to dooku in episode 2 and beats him in episode 3. In the originals, like loses to vader in episode 5 and beats him in episode 6. In the sequels rey beats kylo every time. Like if she bested him in the episode 9 and the im episode 7 and 8 she lost but was saved then that would be a better story ark for her. The fact that they portrayed rey as an already experienced fighter without any training and more powerful than someone who trained most his life is so dumb. That's one of the main reasons why I didn't like the sequels. They made Rey OP, Kylo look like an amateur and luke as a scared hermit.
And this is why you don't dualwield in a real fight. The one time you will really be able to capitalize on your off-hand weapon, it will just disappear.
Threeshades
you can dual wield in a fight, but your off hand weapon is usually parrying device. People use short swords or daggers as off hand weapons. In fact there were many dual wielding duelists during the Renaissance period. And there are plenty of manuals on how to properly dual wield. The trick is that you can't use two weapons of the same length, one has to be significantly shorter.
I know, right? He should have stuck with the double-bladed weapon he started with. Everyone knows that the best thing to do with an energy weapon is to have BOTH ENDS be the "business end".
Jaylyn Abrams, All that won't help you when your offhand weapon just spontaneously ceases to exist.
I think he missed that part. Jaylyn, the OP was a joke made about the guard's weapon being edited out of his hand so he couldn't brutally murder Rey as he would have had leisure to if he still had it.
Rey saw it in the corner of her eye and used "force arthritis" on his hand. He dropped the knife immediately.
‘’Rey has terrible lightsaber skills’’
Ah yes, and the floor is made of floor.
Apply hot water to burn
People die when they are killed.
"Is that a new force power? Can Rey make weapons disappear?"
Well, that aged well.
Lmaooo
*Only the Finest Wines can age this flawless!* 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
o... ye.
Would be funny if someone made a short where mid battle Kylo just receives the red plasma dagger into his hand and he's all like "Neat!" and goes stabbing away.
She has force power that is called force armour
Tadaaaaa, it’s gone!
To be honest, when I watched Rey training I was like "Oh okay, they are doing the whole 'enthusiastic kid doing things wrong and trying to look cool' thingamajic and eventually Luke will come down and say 'you doof, you are doing it all wrong' and it will be cool and nice and heartwarming right"
...Nope.
And even then I tried to justify it by going "Oh okay they will now show how clearly superior fighting Kylo is"
Huh... Sort of... Nope
Kudos to the guy that edited that dagger off though. Probably wasn't the case but I love the idea of someone while recording going "Sir, she ded if we don't take the dagger out"
Andres Arancio Can't have "Muh Strong Female Character" have to learn anything from a man or be worse at anything than a man is.
You just don't understand the power of Mary-Sue-ju-jitsu! Only people with no practical training in anything can use it, but once they have mastered it they are teh bestest ever at everything!
Mary-Sue-jitsu.
Yes... I will be stealing this ;)
@@johnbabylon7626 Then you might get Mary Sued.
I really like the OC. It really highlights what I felt was 8's fundamental problem, as much as I enjoyed some of the left wing plot twists (luke tossing the lightsaber? Could totally see him doing that given the stuff he's been through) but there was very little character progression I felt. Even Poe's arc of "becoming a leader" felt soulless because it wasn't his own crew that gave him crap; they just hired a well paid actress who's only real purpose was to be dislikable and well, everyone died. But we managed to cram the resistance in a falcon, so everythings cool, right? XD
Martial arts choreographer:
Director: Just swing around to make it look cool.
Choreographer: wasn't I hired for this bit?
Director: Are you questioning me? You must be a Russian bot! #BelieveWomen
Choreographer: What? I'm not Russian, and you're not a woman!
Director: Stop mansplaining!
Choreographer: I'm not... y'know what, fuck this. I'm out.
Director: That's right, go back to Russia! #NotMyChoreographer #StopDirectorShaming #Reeee!
@@chasm671 didn't anyone tell you that women don't need training and that we already know how to do everything? Makes for boring movies. :x
@@chasm671 exactly what happens!
@@XiaoFury OMG thats literally what rey does in the movie.
Martial Arts Choreographer: *Makes a mistake and leaves a weapon in an enemy's hand which has to be edited out*
Star Wars "Fans": iT's BeCaUsE rEy HaS pLoT aRmOr!
Me reading the title: Rey's terrible- I'M IN!
“What’s wrong, Master Shad??”
“I felt a great disturbance in the Sworce, as if a million sword enthusiasts suddenly cried out in horror, then were silenced in despair...”
“Today is opening weekend for TLJ. What could this mean??”
“I don’t know, my young apprentice... I don’t know... “
UGNAvalon +1 internets
Anakin: I’ve been train since childhood to learn how to fight with a lightsaber and use the force and now known as one of the best.
Luke: I trained for a week as a young adult and believe I could beat my dad but lost a hand so I took more training for at most a year and got way better.
Rey: just found a metal block that turns into a flashy killing thing and I can somehow control peoples minds and also beat this guy who’s train by Luke to fight since childhood but I beat him. I also tried to get train by Luke but technically never did but somehow I can use the force better than anyone now.
You know she grew up training in melee combat? She didn't just go into these fights COMPLETELY defenseless like Leia. And she knew what sabers and the Jedi were.
@@banjobill8420 There's a difference between hearing about something like the Force, and putting it into practice blindly and being a master in such a short amount of time.
Hell vader was weaker in combative skills than anakin
@@banjobill8420 She went from thinking the Jedi are a fake story, to being an overpowered Jedi Master in like, 3-4 days
Mary sue
Only imagine her training young padawans in upcoming films...
Yoda: Well, screwed the galaxy is!
Yoda* :)
@@sanguchedelechuga606 Thx ^^
Her lightsaber color indicates that she will be secluded and protecting the galaxy from the shadows. I doubt she'd be training padawans.
Child endangerment
No worries. She destroyed _ALL_ the Sith when she forced Palpate to tickle himself to death. No need for padawans.
Rey goes through this routine. Luke watches carefully, ready to intervene with the force if necessary. She finishes.
Rey: What do you think?
Luke: Terrible. I had to save you three times. You fight like a drunken ewok.
You fight like a drunk ewok got a chuckle out of me
That’s not fair
A drunken Ewok would do much better than Rey
@@RhyperiorRanger true
I like to imagine some hungover ewok stumbles onto the scene ,grabs a lightsaber off the floor then goes beast mode and starts doing Yoda-level s#%#
@@Aaa-vp6ug Great! Rey has a practice run with an Ewok and loses!
Rey fights like a 3 year old who found a stick on the sidewalk
Somehow worse actually.
Underrated
I'm actually dying 😂😂😂
Nah they can fight better than her
*that moment you realize that’s practically exactly what happened*
Force ghosts of Obi Wan and Anakin sitting next to Lukes:
Obi Wan: "What is she doing? Didn't you teach her anything?"
Anakin: "I've killed Tusken Raiders with more finesse"
Obi wan: She could get rekt by a youngling
Ray has sutch plot armor palpatine most litrusrly disintegrates
Not to mention she defeats kilo in the first battle they have
Luke: I've shot womprats with more finesse
Traian Daoaga you said kilo
Idk why but this made me laugh so much.
It's like that movie is a Bethesda game.
_"Shit, Imma gonna die!"_
*「pause」*
*「open console」*
_"red_guard.removeitem light_dagger_offhand 1"_
*「unpause」*
"Oh shit, imperial guard behind me!"
_[player.SetValue luck 100]_
*Highly trained imperial guard's swing misses stationary target and blocks other highly trained imperial guard's swing*
@@weaponizedpizza8825 "STOP RIGHT THERE, CRIMI-"
_[imperial_guard.disable]_
PS. It's "SetAV", but it works like shit half the time, so you should use "ModAV" instead. Or just "SetLuck" if you're using commands from Morrowind. _Tee hee_
@@LecherousLizard technically both setav and setvalue both work
@@weaponizedpizza8825 They "worked", but rarely how you intended them to. I remember how, say, trying to set an attribute to 50 would actually set it to, for example, 20 instead.
ModAV worked always as intended.
Also I have no Bethesda game installed to see for myself if "setvalue" is interchangeable with "setav" and nothing on wikias seems to point it being the case, but I'll take your word for it.
"Oh mah gawd!"
[Open console]
"/kill red_guard @a"
"Wait wrong game lul"
Rey's lightsaber skills are terrible
Every minute 60 seconds passes in Africa
The floor is made of floor
Earth is Round
Spinning is a good trick
1+1=2
And most of it is their own fault....
She's so overpowered that the fight gets reworked when she's about to lose.
That's what happens when you take the Lucky feat
That’s what the universe does around a Mary Sue
The laws of the universe bend around Ma-Rey Sue
Maybe she has the power of reality manipulation! :O
@@brettpaulsen1537 yeah but the lucky feat is just a reroll not a remove weapon from existance >
@@otbaht She did. They had to reroll at that moment whether or not they had a dagger in their hand and got a nat 1. They're lucky they didn't just stab themselves with the other dagger for her!
Luke: Please don’t use my lightsaber like that.
Rey: hehe beam sword go voom voom
*Anakin skywalker has joined the chat*
AnotherOffice main characters are invincible at least in most movies
Noonooga 000 A lot of those films add in either personal struggles or have them defeated in some way. Die Hard; a fantastic action film, always puts Mclane on the backfoot, beaten and at a disadvantage, struggling just to stay alive. Rocky always gets pummeled before rising back up. Sarah Connor needed to develop as a warrior to protect her son and the future. The Ghostbusters start out as bumbling Fools deatroying an entire hotel yetmanage to make it through to the end by risking it all. Neo gets bested by mr. Smith and Morpheus and needs trinity to save him from an agent. Brody needs a bigger boat because they underestimated the shark. In almost every martial arts movie the hero’s gets beaten, learns and overcomes. Superman struggles with the weight of his responsibilities on a regular basis.
The best movies don’t make their heroes invincible, they make them overcome.
"Is force teleporting the knife a new force power?"
Rise of Skywalker: ummm...
Rise of Skywalker: Yes but actually...yes
the new canon ladies and gentlemen! this is what the EU died to and what thousands of sheep keep defending...
for me, these movies are as canon to starwars as spaceballs is.
Oy Blech yeah legends all the way!
@@oyblech8671 Don't forget the other thing... The Inquisitors' Helicopter Lightsabers... WE DO NOT FORGIVE! WE DO NOT FORGET DISNEY!
@@oyblech8671 hey don't put a master piece like Space Balls in the same category as shit like the Disney star wars
Ahsoka used reverse-grip in her youth, then off-and-on through her adulthood. But she at least had proper training from people who knew what they were doing.
And in the lore of the franchise, the reverse grip is called shien, which is a form of the lightsaber combat or “swordfighting” in the universe. The reverse grip can be explained by the lore of the franchise, except Rey was never trained in the reverse grip. She only uses it because rian clearly didn’t understand what lightsaber forms were and saw ahsoka or any other force wielder and thought “this looks cool” instead of applying over twenty years of lore made for the franchise.
Ahsoka also only used it with her shoto lightsaber (her smaller one) which is very much a "dagger" lightsaber.
@@soaringraven0 There were times when she’d do it with a pair of full sabers. But it was rare to see that.
@@DragonxFlutter So my point still mostly stands, but you're right
The main problem with reverse-grip (as I understand it at least) is that you can´t apply as much force in the offense and when defending, it is far more easy for your opponents to simply break through you parrying. That may be different with light sabers as we don´t really know how much force the wielder can apply to his strikes, and maybe deflecting blaster shots doesn´t need much force at all.
Rey isn't real she's just from a dream Luke had when he got hungover from that bitchin ewok party
I think Reys real father was Jar Jar, it will be revealed in episode 10
@@libertyoung6205 XD
Damn, Ewoks must know how to party then.
@Lesi PlaysHacks Because the truth is funny.
This just made the sequels ok for me, thank you! Haha
\m/
Ngl, all Rey does is thrust, which leaves her open to easy enemy counterattacks and dirty jokes.
Lmao
its like she had no formal training or something....
@@justsomeguywithaforeheadmu6209 I have seen your kind
It's true. Every time she fought it looked sloppy.
@@FreebirthBoccara yet she never gets punished for the openings she leaves.
Even the chosen one lost all his limbs for much smaller mistakes.
2:36
Ashoka: *Sweats nervously*
What I hate most about Rey, is th she doesn't even fight like a Jedi!
Shes.... BARBARIC!
They are CALM AND SKILLFUL PEACEKEEPERS.
She looks like shes angrily swinging aroung A BAT.
And emfasicise on on "angrily", the emotion the Jedi are explicitly against.
And I can't even say she fights like a Sith, because even the Sith look less angry when they fight.
Edit: Guys calm down-
Rey is a Sith. She struck down Palpatine in anger. The Emperor won! Not only is the Skywalker line dead, but his decent has fallen to the dark side.
@@stunner9005 She didn't strike down the emperor, she defended his attack which in turn reflected back and killed him, he basically kills himself...it's not that hard to see this.
@@ProtectTheMoose Not really if you rewatch Palpatine stops shooting lightning as soon as Rey starts deflecting that's all from the lightsabers and Rey herself so yeah she did strike him down.
Poke Hunter no she reflected his lightning it’s the same thing that mace windu did
@@duanthomas4114 "made windew"
If I'm not mistaken, the prequels lightsaber fighting was taught by martial arts where the sequels were taught by, *sigh*...
dance instructors
So THAT'S why everyone's flipping
The guy who played Darth maul is a martial artist.
Next trilogy: Fights are now choreographed by Yoga instructors
I get most of my exercise these days from shaking my head in disbelief...
so kylo is the dark lord of the dance
Imperial Guard: Yes I can finally stab her in the back!
Plot Armor: I'm about to ruin this man's whole career
Yeah, that's why I prefer bayonetts.
@@imperialguardsman135 He should have chosen his emperor more carefuly.
Praetorian guard*
Clem
Forget the dagger, he wasn't even using his left hand. Like, pull on that stupid ponytail or slap her ass or smt...
There should be a movie for rey
Star Wars: A Lost Hope
halt's maul!
Oof
Amir Bahrami 😂
KENOBIIIIIII
That show have been the title for episode IX
Just imagine jumping on your trampoline and seeing this dude talk to a camera and is swinging swords lol
Lol that was my thinking too. Everyone on the other side of that fence has probably seen it by now.
At a makeshift fort
I keep looking at the background waiting for someone to peek from that fence... XP
I challenge you to an Agni Kai
I would just be going over and knocking on his door and eventually sparring him, lol
Shad: “Let’s watch her fighting technique.”
Rey: *stands*
Shad: *pauses video*
“This is HORRIBLE”
I assume you didn't watch the video AND listen to the audio
@@michaelthesanta3610 but he did mention that her stance is horrible
To be fair, the stance is one of the most important parts of any sport.
@@michaelthesanta3610 i assume you never learn a single type of martial art or etc
Dude just literally Ray stand is nearly useless if i had a chance toe to toe I wouldn't even need a lightsaber i just use a bare hands and a lock technique to break Ray arm both if you want
@@michaelthesanta3610
*I assume you aren't trained in the martial arts and just decided to put in your meaningless two cents.*
So glad you mentioned the vanishing knife. I caught that and was like, "Wait... what?".
I mean LITERALLY, the audience saw him as "the 2-knives guy". Meaning, ONE disappearing is VERY noticeable.
What I find funnier is that the knife disappears shortly after she's slashed across the belly, lol. Should've been dead then and there.
Oh it's worse than a disappearing knife. Follow the knife before it disappears. It travels past Rey's stomach while she's unable to defend... Rey is dead from disembowelment before the knife is edited out, and there's no excuse for why it didn't happen as even the red blade is seen pointing towards Rey's abdomen during the time the guard takes to draw it back. It might not kill her, but that's at least a mortal wound right there.
It got fixed in Ivan Ortega's TLJ re-edited.
It wasn’t.
There was a recent update edit that erase that knife entirely in that infamous shot.
Rey is so bad they had to edit out one of the royal guard's weapons to avoid her getting hit.
I don't think that's Rey's fault the choreography was bad in that moment.
Haha that’s true, the disappearing dagger. Also her “drop” lightsaber scene is ridiculous and the cherry on top is her slice of his knees that leaves a paper cut scar.
One guard throws away his weapon right before Kylo Ren kills him. The whole movie was a mess.
It was so funny watchin her fight an the one royal guard is infront of the camera an he literally WAS swinging at her neck then swung so FAR ABOVE HER HEAD I was like wtf?! Fuckin disney!
And don't forget Kylo Ren stabbing the floor and the guard then going for his lightsaber instead of just chopping his head off.
I remember watching the fight against the red guards, when one of them grabs Rey's lightsaber's blade with a sort of chain and she struggles with him, and my friend was like "why doesn't she just turn off the lightsaber and then turn it on again?"
lol
I think the biggest plot hole/dumb move was them fucking up hyperdrive or whatever it's called. I always kinda thought it created a lil wormhole and pulled the ship through it. Instead their like "no, the ships go really fast" which enables that purple haired lady to point the ship right at an empire flagship and then just completely wreck the shit out of it. Which makes me wonder, in all the thousands of years they've had hyperdrive and been fighting wars, why is it not just a thing to just slap some hyperdrive on a meteorite and just fly it at other ships. If you filled up just a run of the mill merchant ship with water and then hyperdrived it at a planet, you'd have near death star level destruction because they are going faster than the speed of light. It's simple physics, if they are going 10x the speed of light (which you'd need to be going to traverse a galaxy) then it'd be e=m×(10c)2 which would fucking obliterate a planet.
@@shithappens6887 was going to bring up this very point. Plus why not let the ships computer do it, or a droid?
Yes there is a fight in the old republic videos where he does that.. Not sure if Anikan did this once?
@@shithappens6887 Also, since forever any new inventions that are made will be studied to make a weapon out of. And the best arms merchants or engineers have never thought of using hyperdrive ships as missiles? I don't think so.
Comes to mind the scene that wasted 10 bombers to destroy one Star Destroyer. Those bombers had hyperdrive, so why not use one as a missile.
Count Dooku would die of a cringe-indused heart attack if he saw Rey fighting
Maybe that's why Sir Christopher Lee died, after all. He saw the sequels.
Poor dooku…
Hmm maybe because dooku actually had real training in the actual forms whereas she did not
That dagger is the most egregious offense, it couldn’t have even been disarmed with how close they were without her receiving a potentially fatal wound to her chest or abdomen.
Thank you for noticing this and pointing it out to people, Kylo Ren is legitimately fighting for his life and Rey wins in Post production.....I expect more from Star Wars fight scenes
Yachera I thought I was imagining things in the theater when I wondered where that dagger went... turns out I was not. :P
Yachera seriously watch the fight again and just watch all the extra guards, it's hilarious how bad the choreography is, like when three attack her all at once with all their weapons...overhead straight down...and then all spin away for zero reason.
Yachera It's almost like they were too lazy to re-choreograph that exchange and just used a cheap editing trick instead, hoping the audience wouldn't notice.
Yachera Reys brutal murder
Yachera after force awakens I knew star wars will never return to its peak like in revenge of the sith, ROTS has more fights scenes and better then every Disney star wars movies combined
In short: whoever choreographed that fight, didn't.
830 likes and No comments?! That just changed.
The asian guy who did the choreography said that rey was a real life mary sue as a compliment. Maybe it is because he is shit at his job i bet
Mason LaCour wait till you see the plot and writing.
I always thought Vader vs Luke in ROTJ had the best choreography. The prequels are flashing but people are continually leaving themselves exposed to easy kills/maims that the opponent fails to take advantage of.
@PhantomKitten EXACTLY. I don't think the choreography is very GOOD, but the actors continuously missed their cues, which makes the entire scene lazy. I think that the prequel fights were incredible compared to this shit show, but all things considered, it's not Yang's fault.
Shad never let's me down with technical terms like "stabby stabby"!
Did you just type "let's" in there specifically to annoy English Nazis like me?
Cyrus the Acceptable I dont know what you mean. Haha don't forget spelling Nazis. I do want to be inclusive after all.
**Squinting with concern**
The Grammar Gestapo has been alerted.
hmm. I dare someone to say that in bed.
Even Anakin, the chosen one had to train for years and be beaten to become a good jedi knight.
Rey is a wasted potential to make a decent character.
She could've been such a good Jedi.
Yeah
Just imagine Rey vs Count Dooku, she'd get humiliated lol.
She'd be humiliated against the younglings.
NONONONO Your wrong, Disney would make her win.
@@parrishthompson207 sounds legit what Disney would do.
@@hockeycheck1224 Yo i already knew this but you should probably put up a spoiler warning for the end of the game and turn that entire part into a read more. No sense in being a dick and ruining it for those who haven’t finished it yet
@@hockeycheck1224 Nah no need to apologize man, just saving people the possible pain of being spoiled
Odds are the choreographer saw the rest of the movie and said "whoa the bar is set pretty low on this one." Great job as usual Shad.
They tried as hard as everbody else :)
Decided since everything else is in the shitter, he can just go wild and have fun, cause everyone will be pissed off about everything else.
Shad is the only person I know to talk about the disappearing dagger and horrible stance while training when criticizing the movie, so I guess it worked out for the choreographer - these issues are rarely mentioned. The only part that didn't work out was the swing and miss by red guy, I've seen that one get more attention, but that's really blatant.
tiikerihai yup the only thing ive heard others mention was the timing and positioning but never the dagger
I doubt it’s his fault, I’m assuming the actors are to blame
*Cue all of buzzfeed dragging me to the deepest pits of hell for insulting a woman*
"Honey, the neighbor is playing with a light saber and making weird noises again"
🤣
Y'know, if they gave her a double-bladed lightsaber (that makes much more sense since she's used a staff most of her life) I think her combat scenes would've been way more enjoyable.
Yeah i think the scene where she accidentally cuts herself in half would have been entertaining at the very least
With proper writing and choreography we could've seen her using double bladed sword like staff, which would be cool but no
Rey holding a energy weapon she's never seen before that can cut through everything: L U N G E
@@nicholassilvestrini3111 LOL
Wanna know whats funny? In the scrapped episode 9 script, she actually had a double bladed lightsaber, made using the pieces of the lightsaber after it was split in half in the last jedi
But I guess JJ Abrams thought that was lame and just put a piece of tape around it and called it a day
Well further into the movies, Jedi have been training less.
Anakin: I've trained in the ways of the Jedi since childhood.
Luke: I trained for a week with a drifter and a senile Muppet.
Rey: What's this cool glowstick?
Actually, Luke trained for years between the movies. They have charts out there.. It's something like 3.7 years total.
According to star wars.com, Luke's training with Yoda was between 30 minute (literally just the raw screen time which is silly) and six months.
It was a mistake for them to decide that there would be absolutely no time gap between episode 7 and episode 8.
The gap between the original movies was substantial- a couple years. Allowing plenty of time for Luke to train and use his new light saber in combat.
edit: Finally on a PC again so I am correcting the voice typos that were driving folks crazy.
Luke was with yoda longer than a week.
Mac Meriod and Dan Lyons, thanks nerds, but you know what he fucking means.
Jedi council: Anakin is too old to receive training
@@DonVigaDeFierro plot armor with rey, anakin is not that much of an antagonist and Luke IDK but since plot armor we ALL know why rey won against kylo but well if it was more real then Kylo would have survived unless he was toying with the plot armor gurl
Here what i think.
Originally trilogy: they were made in the 70s and 80s so it made sense why it wasn't all out, but the story was amazing anyways
Prequel trilogy: lightsaber skills was done right with different techniques
Sequence trilogy: all rey does is swing, no skills
Because in their mind, woman should not learn anything. They already know everything best. Only explanation why it was this way. Looking at Caitlin Kennedy i would not be surprised if that were here thoughts.
I really liked the prequels because they expanded on the star wars universe
@@Marcus01285 me to kid
And the OT had enough emotional power that it easily made up for the lack of spectacle
@@Vivigreeny25 very true. With rey all you can hear is her grunting
Enemy: Why won't you die?!
Rey: Plot armor, son. It hardens in response to trauma from non-important character.
And even more-so to important characters.
Rey Armstrong
NANO MACHINES SON
You've gotta be kidding?!
Nanovaginamachines son
The most impressive thing about this trilogy is the fact that they never accidentally killed themselves with their own lightsabers
Actually it isn't, because when a lightsaber goes straight on Finn's back, and Kylo Ren's *face* they are like "it's nothing but a scratch"
Tinham q ser esses pebleus com premium...
Tis but a scratch
And why are lightsaber hits don't start fire?
Personally, when I saw the Kylo Ren lightsaber (didn't watch the sequel trilogy, but saw the specific lightsaber in other videos), I thought (and still think somewhat) that the plasma crossguard is just asking for an accident to happen, especially in the form of self-severed wrists.
@@quentincoetzee4313 they probably saw that people liked darth maul and he had 2 plasma "blades", and thought they should create a new type of lightsaber for the villain, but never thought about how someone would use a lightsaber without Killing themselves, it's like creating an explosion device that will always somehow damage you if you don't do something specific
Anakin: trained in the Jedi arts since he was nine
Luke: Lost again his father and came back after practicing at least a year with Yoda
Rey "open console" "player.advskill onehanded 999999"
Sooooooooooooo... kirito?
ah, yes.... the ole skyrim commands.... okay now she has one handed, light armor AND speech 99999999
"u's good"
"no"
"u parents mad"
"no"
"be good"
"no"
"pls"
"maybe"
*Han gets killed by Kylo Ren*
"be bad"
"no"
*Luke dies*
"Be good"
"no"
"ok but han is kil"
"oh no"
"oh yes"
*Palpatine magically appears*
"kidnap girl, kilogran"
"ok"
"i kidnap u"
"no, be good"
"oh ok"
*Rey heals Kilo*
*Rey and Kilogram confronts Plapatino*
"kil me"
"no"
"ok, but you are kil"
"wait no"
*Rey casts a bullshit spell*
"i refeclt the zappers"
"oh no"
"oh yes"
*Rey dies*
*Kylogrem crawls out of side character pit*
*Rey lives again*
*Kilogram kisses Rent, then fucking dies*
Bryan S this is the best thing I’ve ever seen
@@reanterhog5701 this...is this gold content?! In RUclips?! Impossible!
I love how shad is wearing a protective gambeson when he is wielding a toy lightsaber 🤯
Gambeson*
What is a gambersin? Do you mean a gambeson?
Lol you’re not the only one. My brain makes it gambleson sometimes 😂
Gotta go Shad, gotta go Shad!
He's protecting himself from all the sharp edges coming through the comments. ;)
These new Star Wars movies could be replaced with a Bruh sound effect extended to last 2.5 hours and You won’t notice any difference
BLA BLA BLA bruh
R2 scream is better
Master, I sense a bruh moment
Plot twist: she was trying to look bad at lightsaber skills so that Luke would help her.
She was hoping her future enemies would watch the movie, see how bad she is, and under estimate her real power/lightsaber skills.
Omg I can’t believe they went so far as to edit out the weapon rather than reshoot the scene. That’s so lazy. How did I not see it though??
They were to lazy to reshoot the scene, but they put a lot of effort into editing it out.
one requires paying their actors even more moeny, the other requires paying some schlub with a film editing degree ten dollars an hour to "fix it in post".
Jabun The Wanderer That's a bad excuse for laziness other much lower budget movies have done re shot the scenes even if it did cost more there's no excuse for this especially star wars
the fight choreographer should of caught the mistake and redo the fight scene. no excuses Disney. you're better than that. and hopefully your starwars movies will be one day. did like rogue one though.
Ytram The Grey
That sad realization when Bruce Lee put more effort into Game of Death's choreography and fights near the end of his life back in the 70's than a movie released and made in the 2010's. Bruce put so much emphasis on perfecting the fights that most of the 'lost footage' of Game of Death they found mentioned in "Bruce Lee: A Warrior's Journey" were outtakes of a few scenes.
When I was a kid I always wondered “how could general grievous kill so many Jedi, even without the force”
I now know why, they were all a buncha Rey’s.
@Tactical Bacon Disney would most likely do so but Luckily the original creator would never say such a pathetic thing
Probably a hold over from the Original Clone wars where he Solo'ed Shak'ti, Alyaa Secura, Ki ada Mundi, Shaagi, and 2-3 others.
Ryan Poston tell that to obi wan
@Notorious1503 are you a Ork.
@@ryanposton8803 jedi can guard against a LOT more than 4 blasters.i would bet that the limit for the most skilled ones are around 20.
but his secret for killing jedi has been explained before.a lot of brutality and flair to try to scare the jedi and weaken his connection to the force
Obi-wan: a fully trained Jedi master, defeated one of the most powerful force users, and honed in his force powers on tatooine for 16 years
Anakin: trained as a Jedi since he was 9, was one of the most powerful force users ever, and trained under darth sidious for 16 years
Luke: trained directly under yoda for upwards of a year, and has sky walker blood in his veins, oh and he destroyed the Death Star
Rey: hehe main character go brrrrrr teehee lazer sword go vroom hehe
Edit: even Luke, Anakin, and Obi-wan lost a majority of their fights, whereas Rey just wins every time
Plz edit out “Luke has Skywalker blood” because people gonna say *“BuT rEy HAs pALpaTInE bLo0D”*
But yea literally her second time holding the lightsaber and she defeats Kilo Ren.
bUt rEy-sueWaLkeR hAs the sEnATe blOod
most importantly, they lose, even being the most powerful beings and higly trained warriors.
obi wan, one of the most powerful jedi, a master with a seat in the jedi council loses two times against dooku in movies, anakin, the chosen one lose against dooku and obi wan, luke against vader and sidious. dooku against anakin, sidious agains windu.
now rey... beats kylo after a minute of knowing wtf a light saber was.
@@Adam-xf6sq nah, she's Rey Jamorey, after her ancestor, Ram Jamoram..😂
Disney decided to create plot armor ;(
Now we know why Luke decided to train her after this montage, even though he refused to at first: He saw her "swordsmanship" and thought to himself: "This is bullcrap! If I don't intervene now, nobody can save her!"
You could really tell during their “fight” with the new red guards that Daisy Ridley and Adam Driver were very uncomfortable with the movements, while the stuntmen playing the guards were experienced martial artists trying hard to make them look good.
Mac Mcnally I could see that. Why didn’t they just hire stunt doubles. Most of the shots were wide, it has the budget of well a Star Wars movie, and for the closeups they could just switch actors
What's really frustrating is, it would make sense story-wise for both characters to suck at using lightsabers (maybe Kylo has never had to really use it since running away). The only problem is, we're supposed to believe that they're good at it.
'cause she's a Mary Sue. She's perfect instantly.
First Last just like Luke.
Josh Adams same luke that got his ass handed to him by a tusken raider and vader?
You know she's hopeless if my 9 year-old brother thinks that it's stupid
Thank you, master Obi Wan
Hello there
@@daxtertalon4 (not) General Kenobi
Obi-Wan Kenobi hello there
Yes it is wise master
Shad: Reverse grip on a sword is useless. It just looks cool and flashy.
Starkiller: .................
Well if you see slowly Starkiller attacks normally although he uses the reverse grip.
I mean I feel a lot faster with defense using reverse grip
But I use it too handed
Well lightsabers have no weight and can cut almost anything with 0 resistance. Reverse grip would work perfectly for a faster swing against a non-armed opponent.
@@LemuslateStar Wars the Force Unleashed 2, he is a mad man with 2 lightsabers.
Mayfield in one episode in Mandalorian has more character development than Rey did in three movies
All I know about rey is that she's a good guy who is okay with machines, and she has friends.
@@GlowBerryPumpkin Oh so you haven’t watched the sequels? You make me proud
@@wytildlool plot twist: the guy has already seen the sequels and that's all they knew
That comment about the disappearing dagger had me laughing so hard
I think Shad is the third youtuber I'e seen commenting on TLJ to actually spot this.
When it first came out so many critics panned TLJ and missed this detail it was infuriating. They were so worried about the females in the movie and "messed up lore" (lores fine) they missed so many REAL problems with it.
Promethium same, discredits the movie even moreso now
Never noticed this myself. Well there goes one of the few scenes I thought were kind of well done.
_"When it first came out so many critics panned TLJ and missed this detail it was infuriating. They were so worried about the females in the movie and "messed up lore" (lores fine) they missed so many REAL problems with it."_
The lore is not *FINE* in any way, shape or form, the lore got taken out back, raped repeatedly for 2 hours, then put out of it's misery. It just so happens that on first viewing it's far easier to point that out as it's blatantly obvious, than all the little details. The 'fight' with the guards being terrible is just one of the cherries on top of this shit-show.
Do not excuse one big fuck-up just because you personally noticed another that's not widely known, two wrongs don't make the first right, it just means we got two wrongs, and there are plenty more in these terrible movies.
Plot armor another ability discovered: makes daggers disappear.
Would be entertaining seeing master Shad training Rey, would be a constant barrage of "Wrong!" "No spinning!" "Your footwork is wrong!" "That's nice but what about dragons eh?"
And yeah the red circus fight is hilarious to watch as someone who pays attention to details, the simple solution to increase the odds of winning a 6 vs 2 is to simply back away while they come running at you, not walking in the middle of them and being surrounded. And watching this made me think about the kind of heat a lightsaber would produce and if you even could hold it for a prolonged fight. I love thy work sir, keep them coming!
Hmm, if lightsaber was producing lots of heat, then those wide swings would make sort of sense. Maybe it is broken or something.
well, for it to be tolerable the way they use them compared to their cutting power...
We have to assume they produce no heat at all. (as in, radiant heat. Obviously, when they hit something they heat up whatever they're in contact with.)
Have you ever sat near a fire, or held torch? Consider how hot that is from even several metres away.
Now imagine holding something that can push through a very thick metal blast door in a second or two, and melt it near instantly.
That kind of heat, if it were radiating would cook everyone around it within a matter of seconds.
Probably everyone in the room, in fact, if you activated one of these things.
Clearly then, the only way out of that dilemma is to accept that a lightsaber does not produce any radiant heat.
How that works is beyond me, since it's always in contact with air...
But... Well, physics is a bitch huh. XD
Disney basically just threw money at them and told them to act like they knew what they were doing. Rey just swings it around and only because that’s how Disney wanted it to be. It’s the same thing with kylo ren, he flailed it around like a five year old throwing a temper tantrum. They really didn’t try. it was just a huge cash grab that failed.
He weilds his Saber like it weighs 500 pounds lol
Didn't they say they stopped caring after the second movie or something
Contrast that with Hayden Christensen and Ewan McGregor. They trained so hard that they impressed the editors so much they decided not to edit the speed of most of the fight. The two were choreography experts. 12 years later and Disney couldn't get the same out of their actors. I guess it doesn't help when production time is a year shorter.
Even I, a 16 year old who's never been in a fight nor has been trained in the art of sword combat, can do it better than her.
@@ShamanMcLamie they had people teach the actor for Rey and kylo ren about lightsaber moves
damn, didn't know Dunkey was doing these videos now
Ikr he should get back to his videos of him reacting to Jakey Paul
Because he isn’t
@@moriyokiri3229 ever heard of a joke 😱🤯
How dare you insult Shad like that :P
A little late for that huh
Rey doesn't need to use good fighting techniques or have any real training. She has the thickest plot armour in cinematic history, so she can just walk up to people who are supposed to be much better trained and more skilled than her and kick their asses becasue she's the main character.
Oh, if it was only plot armor
She's not only plot armoured, she's also a Mary fucking Sue. MaRey Sue
Not PA, Mary Sue
Thiccer than oatmeal
@@J0hnHenrySNEEDen 😍
Rey’s lightsaberskills are on the same level as a kindergartener playing
Somebody Weird no a kindergartener can actually use a sword correctly while Rey is so bad it’s like she’s pleading the force for someone to just force push her away, kick her in the crotch which will still do some damage even if she’s a girl or just straight up walk up to her, clash with her weapon, and while your clashing punch her in the face catching her off guard then stab her
My older son is 3 and starts kindergarten in september. He has shown a fair bit of skill with dummy swords while playing with my younger brother yesterday. I firmly believe that the actress would have done a much better job if not given any instructions at all.
That's insulting to the kindergarteners
Nope. In kindergarten we weren't trained fencers, but we were decent untrained ones. You know, in medieval times actually like most of footsoldiers were just townsfolk or villagers who got some kind of melee weapon grabbed it someow and they sometimes could end battles alive.
@ZadfrackGlutz Zesozose Actually I know lesbians who can achieve many things.
Martial artists: Years of training
Rey's directors: PLAY BALL!
Also Rey's director: KOWABUNGA IT IS
CrazyMonkey 0117, you made me laugh.
In the words of General Grievous: "Her saber will be a fine addition to my collection."
If Rey was actually affected by weapons
She would’ve cut off her arms and head the moment she picked up a lightsaber
She is one of those that would look down the barrel with her finger on the trigger... -Porg-level intellect.
Like how Luke had the front of the lightsaber pointed at his face when he first got it
@@lcc2348
why is it so easy for me to remember exactly that scene? ;D
gives me anxiety thinking about it lol
@@Broockle Probably because if he turned it on we wouldn't have any Star Wars
If only that happened then i would enjoy the sequel
Just by coincidence I re-watched this movie 2 days ago on Netflix. When this scene came on I literally said to myself, "Man, she is swinging that sword around like an idiot". Very well done Shad! Thumbs Up! lol
It's not only that she swings it like an idiot, but during the whole COPY OF RETURN OF THE JEDI... I mean... "Throne room" scene, cough cough
She is basically fighting like A SITH would do, she is constantly angry and attacking, she screams out of pure rage constantly and she is killing the guards without giving a fuck and she is SUPPOSED to be the "JEDI"
Kylo on the other hand is calm, defending himself, waiting for oportunities to counter his enemies and even hesitates to killing them and he is supposed to be the "SITH"
And to anyone who says:
"Kylo isnt a sith REEEEE"
Fuck off with that bullshit, he fucking is
How 'bout that scene where they literally edit weapons out of the Royal Guard's hands so she can win the fight.
I miss the good old fights like obi wan vs Anakin.
Ewan McGregor and Hayden Christensen trained like crazy for that fight. The crew were amazed at how good they got at performing the choreography. There were plans to speed up the footage but they realized they didn't need to.
Noah Shackelford and fighting a gut who has SERIOUS mommy and daddy issues
Its over Anakin i have the high ground!
@Gaius Wyrden well its mostly terrible and unrealistic skills but it does make for great cinema :) definitly much more interesting to watch that Obi Wan vs Vader even though they fought smarter with their lightsabers considering they are light sabers not swords.
Love that they trained so much together that they would go off script dueling but it will still seem legit
Palpatine actually died because he was so tilted by Rey's lightsaber skills
And I don’t blame him
Death from disappointment
No he died of jealesy from rey plot armour
no he died bc he knew he was related to someone with her skill level
PALPATINE DIED WHEN DARTH VADER THREW HIM IN A HOLE! I DO NOT ACCEPT THE SHIT THE NEW MOVIES GIVE US
That stance is for EARTHBENDING, she must have studied with Toph!
Except Toph is more cooler than Rey
Seems she is a hopless earthbender aswell
That moment when Cal Kestis from Jedi: Fallen Order has better backstory than Rey ever had
Fish guy accountant from the Mandalorian had better lol!
I love Daisy Ridley but her character, Rey, was so horrendously written that i feel bad for her.
How can you love Daisy?
@@martinsoukup562She seems a good person, it wasn't really her fault the movies ended up like this. Captain Marvel on the other hand seems like a horrible person
@@diogor8968 why does she seem like a nice person? Cos she is pretty? From what I've seen she is the opposite. I don't blame her for the shitty movies tho.
@Legendary Vocalists So, you? You are currently doing just that. Also, according to your logic, the majority of people on the planet are bad. In other words, you're stupid.
@Legendary Vocalists oh the irony
That imperial guard must be the most confused man of all time. One second he's about to kill the protagonist of the movie, the next second he only has one dagger. Just gone from existence. He would've been doing us a huge favor.
Ops butterfingers
thats just how strong plot armour is
H.U.F Sheeit man. With the amount of plot armour Rey has, she could survive the impact from the Death Star laser.
It would've been cool if they killed her and it made Kylo come to the light
The he could've been the star of Episode 9
Yeah, but I'm sure you had zero problem with the opening scene where Poe takes on a star destroyer with a single x-wing fighter. Poe is the real Gary Stu of the new trilogy, but that's fine as long as it isn't a woman or a person of color, right?
Oh wow, that disappearing knife is so bad. How did that even happen? Like the actor was physically holding something during the stunt, right? How did nobody on production come to the same conclusion as the editors? It wouldn't have been that difficult to just show the second knife getting knocked out of his hand.
Because that would be admitting that the director Roundhead made a mistake, and we all now by now that Roundhead never makes mistakes!
That stunt coordinator should be fired, lol.
They would just replace him with Clint Howard.
He actually bring the knife across her stomach before it disappears. that would have easily been a killing blow.
Respect Waman that's why. They are all queens!
When a character has plot armor, plot weapons, plot power AND plot enemies
The scene with the two-daggers red guard should be called "The Empire Magically Prevented From Striking Her Back."
The Token Survivor also why didn’t they use the force while fighting the red suit elite troopers whatever, it’s not like they never used the force before so dumb
Rey is clearly showcasing the "going on the toilet at a festival"-stance
Robert Elfenbein Thank you for this
Wow, never noticed that dagger being edited out. That's really bad.
Benjamin K another plot hole to Add to the pile
I haven't seen the movie but I saw this highlight before and was liek she should be dead
Made me happy made me smile, all the homies hate Rey
I want to like this cuz it’s true, but you’ve got 69 likes so i’ll just tell you lol
@Cait For one I am 16 and for two I mainly dislike Rey because her “trilogy” overwrote established Star Wars cannon, went foreword with no plan, ignored the plan that George Lucas presented to Disney with how to proceed with the movies, and is overall a disappointing character who is somehow more powerful than both Anakin and Luke Skywalker
@Cait Yea there’s not anymore cause it got overwrote💀 And rey’s gender is irrelevant to my opinion about her, she’s able to use force powers on the first try that were previously only accessible to experienced masters whom had to train for years to do what she could do immediately. You keep tryna bring gender into this but rey’s gender has nothing to do with her being a shit character. And u also replied to that other guys comment saying we were mad our “poor old favorite male villains were defeated,” Palpatine shouldn’t have even been in this trilogy. They put him up at the end without explaining his resurrection or even foreshadowing it in the earlier movies (although it was previously cannon for palpatine to return it wasn’t just out of the blue and it was in a new physical form after his consciousness had been transferred to a clone). You only want to defend the sequels because the main character is a female and anyone who doesn’t like her is sexist, nice logic lmfao
Disney: released Rey, Rose and Holdo.
Me: Congratulations Jar jar your not the worst character in star wars anyone.
@@Blue-Code fax
5:55 this is how I feel about Disney Star Wars trilogy
Ty sir, you healed my soul
@@lukeskywalker6639 you are welcome, master Skywalker, it’s an honor for me
@TYLER ZALKIN The abysmal choreography doesn’t help show off her acting skills either. Whoever was in charge of it should find a new job
@@invayde7902 rian was clearly in charge of the throne room scene. He not only doesn't care or know anything about the franchise or lore but he can't choreograph either.
I think it would be better if they just made the triology of the Thrawn Triology.
7:25 "Can Ray make weapons disappear?"
Whoah, someone can see the future.
Which weapon did Rey make disappear in ROS?
@@IbadassI I think the one she gives to Kylo somehow when he needs a lightsaber.
@@danielwonttellya5175 Oh and she makes it disappear?
@@IbadassI in someone else's perspective it disappears. Kinda stupid if you ask me
Prolly forced pushed it out of his hand with her mind lol
Rey: *swings sword a bit too far back*
Luke: Oh no what am I gonna do with this corpse
Well the only thing to eat are those birds things soooo
Well... At least we'll never see her again...
Unzips pants
tinle9 y se lo han odio por el
tinle9 y ó
Rey probably couldn’t beat a B1 battle droid
Even a droid can fire off a lucky shot
So is she a Mary Sue or not? Y’all are saying she’s OP and terrible at the same time
@@OkIPullUp2915 in canon she is powerful but realistically she should suck due to a lack of training. Almost anyone can beat a battle droid but they can still be deadly, mainly in big groups.
@@OkIPullUp2915 she is op because she has plot armor, but strip the plot armor and she will cut her own head off, I can see why your confused though
@@GlowBerryPumpkin cause she is Palpatine! But why then her father wasn't powerful Jedi, who should be the main character of previous movies?
Rian Johnson: "These nerds expect a training montage with Luke, well won't they be delighted that their expectations were subverted yet again. I'll have her "train" BY HERSELF! Brilliant! This idea won't come back to haunt her, nope!"
Seriously, a good amount of Mary Sue talk would've been knocked down quite a few pegs if she was trained by Luke. They didn't even have to show it! Even an extremely lazy single line saying shes been training with Luke would've helped SO much! They easily could've made the length of time she trained with Luke AMBIGUOUS, imagine that! At least then all the people defending Rey could say "Luke trained her! They didn't show it so who knows what crazy powers she could've learned! Its at least PLAUSIBLE that she learned all this insane shit because shes an amazing student or whatever." Ugh the writing was bungled so badly its really funny.
I am sad to admit that I do feel bad for actual Star Wars fans, I really do, especially the hardcore ones who literally have to come up with justifications that aren't in the actual movie to give it the appearance of a movie that cares about its audience and that doesn't treat them like absolute morons. Sad to see millions of people's child like enthusiasm(not poking fun) get curb stomped by a soulless money hungry corporation who doesn't give two shits about what this franchise means to them. I'm kind of glad I never got as invested in Star Wars as they did because then I would be the one feeling all that rage and disappointment. Damn Disney you really fucking suck.
Disney turned Star Wars into a Feminist movie series. The men in the previous movies have had failures and faced defeat, yet a single woman with no experience succeeds in 99.9% of her trials. Sounds feminist to me. Disney has forever lost my respect because of the three attempts they had at a Star Wars movie
Sure, the sequel trilogy is bad. But everything up till there is beautiful. If you really want to get invested watch the prequels and the animated show Star Wars The Clone Wars which is set between episodes 2&3. This bridges a lot of events that happen in that time as well as makes the prequels even better. It also introduces a better female Jedi main character other than Rey called Ahsoka who is Anakin's padawan.
@@swoopstudios1104 Disney Star Wars is to the Orginal Star Wars what Disney Feminism is to Real Feminism. It's good to point that out before you start blaming feminism on the ruin of Star wars... keep in mind Disney ruined feminism also.
@@fernandogajo8800 True. The amount of damage they made on both fronts is just so baffling I'm really surprised they had the audacity to go on with the trilogy as it is.
@Haku infinite I mean tbh force healing has been a thing for a really long time and even implied in the movies(prequels) and honestly kinda intuitive.
But that's healing not immortality.
Also legit immortality was in legends aswell but old republic and alot of that was wiped out by bane
no need for skill or talent when you are written to be the Mary Sue
Sleepy .Time You still call her a Mary Sue when she clearly isn’t and she is bad at sword fighting? Do you even know the definition of Mary Sue?
A Mary Sue is an original character (oc) and has very few to no flaws. Of course the author of this oc will say "they are clumsy" or "they are not very good at maths" or whatever. They will most probably have a power or an evil twin/ dark side. They also might have an impossible bloodline. Such as a half werewolf or half fairy. With near 0 training she has killed a person who's equal to a sith lord, killed his anti jedi personal guard, used force powers that takes years of training as if a master yet knows nothing of the force or how to use it. Gone toe to toe with someone whos had superior training to her 0 training and came out on top
master106 games She is "bad" at swordfigthing because the coreograoher has no fucking idea what he is doing
She ends up defeating literally EVERYONE she faces when she is not derping during training
Hanki Defeating 1/5 People is not defeating everyone she faces. (I am not counting Kylo because he let his guard down at the end of the fight otherwise he would have won)
Stratowind Rey became a Jedi master by touching a lightsaber. She’s a Mary Sue.
As a Martial Artist who has been practicing Shotokan Karate since I was 7 years-old back in 1998 and Arnis / Filipino Martial Arts since 2016, I was cringing at how AWFUL Rey's form was.
That horse stance + exaggerated baseball swing she was doing was the worst. While the horse stance/Kiba Dachi stance is good for training in hip movement and alignment, she had no control whatsoever of her swings as she was training.
She looked like a little kid pretending to be Siegfried from Soul Calibur. Pitiful.
Right!!!!!! If she's going to pretend to use traditional fighting techniques at least do them properly! I know a lightsaber is different than a sword or spear, but hand to hand fighting would presumably be the same, just enhanced by the force so you can have amazing timing, form, and strength. So you would assume that she would at least practice some of her forms correctly, or I guess Luke didn't care to teach anyone how to fight properly, making the one Jedi with any kind of technique into an absolute death machine.
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In my style of Arnis / Filipino Martial Arts (Cinco Teros) we have this maxim of "One Mind, Any Weapon". Thus what we do with the rattan stick, translates to bladed weapons, and what we do with bladed weapons also translates to unarmed combat.
While (very) minor adjustments are done between each of the 3 ways we practice, they all work on the same basic principles. My prior experience in Shotokan Karate really helped in my Arnis training as we use the kiba dachi stance in some of our drills in Arnis.
Rey's poor coordination and balance makes me think she really could use proper training and guidance under one way before she decides to mishmash them together on her own.
I agree, though her poor technique might be explained by her reliance on the force. I really wish that the new trilogy would have taken inspiration from KOTOR 2 and made a point on how the jedi are nothing without the force, and that the force itself is tyrannical and robs free will. At this point, the star wars universe has had a major galactic war about once every 300 years, with the same conflict playing out over and over again. The original trilogy led to no real peace, as the First Order came along and simply recreated the empire with seemingly minimal effort. The force presumably made Rey a powerful force user simply to maintain cyclical conflict. It would be nice to see Star Wars to have planned this and make episode 9 about overthrowing the force once and for all, which would depower all force users and give the spot light to non-force users. Of course, this is never going to happen, but one can dream.
She should be throwing the lightsaber around with the force because reach is really important when no armor exists that can stop your weapon. That is why guns eliminated the need for other primary combat weapons. Range and armor piercing.
I used to take tai kwon do, but stopped because of football, which I then stopped because of wrestling. wanting to get back into martial arts. what would you suggest? Edit: i'm also interested in swordplay
Title: "Rey's terrible very bad lightsaber skills"
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That feel when the extras are better at fighting than the actors who are supposed to be playing martial arts wizards
Unfortunately it happens all to often that the stunt men are far superior to the actors...
The old jedi mind trick...when you think you have 2 daggers but you only have 1. Ha ha ha
Or mind tricked into forgetting about the dagger and just drops it.
Or better yet mind tricked out of existence
She dropped it duh
Bobafett FN2187 woooooosh
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Neighbors:
wife: "That man is in the garden playing Star Wars again."
husband: "Really? I think I'll go join him!"
I always thought lightsabre fighting should look most like olympic fencing, since the blade is so destructive and shouldn't need any strength behind it, the speed and reach of fencing styles would work best. Best counter would be 'but it needs to be straight so it'd be awkward', up until Dooku got a curved sabre hilt, since Christopher Lee insisted.
@@valandil7454 And yet that canted grip made his saber so perfect for a fencing style. Allowing for accurate stabs and thrusts without placing the wrist at akward angles. There is a reason Dooku was considered an unmatched lightsaber duelist. Anakin only beat him by duel wielding his and Obi-wan's sabers, and using brute-strength which is what anakin is best known for, to overwhelm Dooku's skillful deflects.
Shad Fact: Thanos' true goal was an attempt to kill Shad. Not even the Infinity Gauntlet can do this though.
She’s worse with a sword than Minecraft Steve
lmao
At least he hits most hits
Steve is a god swordsman wdym
minecraft steve’s sword is basically a short range hitscan weapon, unable to be blocked unless you use a large plate to cover it, and it has aoe if the attacks are delayed
and by short range I mean 2-4 metres depending on what the scale of 1 block in minecraft translates to actual length, so good luck actually hitting him without getting poked first unless you’re another steve or have some shield
(this entire comment is kind of stupid lol, but that’s just what my observation with steve’s melee is in minecraft)
She's got that knock back enchantment
I guess that is why she is the last jedi... She didn't live long enough to teach another.
The funny part is, vader and obi wan in the OLD movies fought with better technique than the current new coreografic stuff.