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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2024
- A whips like in Indiana Jones effective weapons? We put them to the test!
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It’s also important to note that although Indiana Jones uses the whip, he actually does have an offhand weapon called a pistol
The whip is just making them an easier target at that point.
Whips save on bullets! 😅
Whip, pistol combo. Non-lethal and lethal weapons that kinda make sense to use together.
Two pistols actually. He carried a Smith
& Wesson revolver, and a Browning Hi-Power. You see him using both guns during the Nepal fight scene, which is why he was able to fire more than 6 shots without reloading. Unfortunately, he lost the Browning during that fight.
@@Rocket1377he didn’t lose it though, or if he did he found a replacement by the time they escape Cairo. He’s chambering one when the boat is stopped.
I appreciate that Shad, unlike Disney/Lucasfilm, is making money off of Indiana Jones.
Oh, shit. Worth it then 😊
🤣🤣🤣
Shhh! You really want Disney to sue?? They're unstoppable.
Those pirates from Disney are notorious for stealing intelectual property and making films based on what others were already playing while they were still filming / animating it (Lion king, i'm looking at you), then sueing the said company that they stole the idea from for "stealing the idea from Disney"...
Karma is a b-word and it's about time Disney got a big fat dose of it.
Bod😅😅😂
Shad: "In my opinion, the capacity to kill is an important qualifier for a weapon"
Also Shad: *doesn't kill the guest he brings along*
smh my head
There's a few things I have notes on. It's pretty in depth, but I'll try to break it into sections.
Tldr: I think more practice would definitely help with a lot of things, as would either making modifications to the whip, or getting a slightly better whip.
For background, I'm a whip maker and whip cracker with over three years of experience. I mostly do nylon whips, though I have made two leather whips. I mostly do performance cracking and targeting, and I've done dozens of "wild west" shows.
Looking at the whip they used, it does seem to be a reasonably good, if lower quality leather whip. It does also look to be made of kangaroo hide too, which is really good. I did notice it tended to bounce back a lot, and I think replacing the fall (the strand of leather at the end of the braiding) with a longer one would help. I am pretty curious where they got it from and who the maker is.
For when they were doing wraps on the branch, it did seem to do poorly, but there are a few things that could help. One would be a longer fall, probably 3-4 feet for a 10 foot whip like this one. Trying an overhand flick does tend to work best for that type of wrap and trying to give it enough length to wrap 2-3 times seems to work best.
For cutting in combat, distance does matter a bit. The end of the fall and the cracker are where you'll get the most cutting power, and when you'll get the most cutting power is just before or during the crack. Aiming for the face or eyes would probably be best for a cut. It's pretty easy to find videos of people, like Adam Winrich, Nick Schrader, and Jacques Ze Whipper, all of whom I've seen cut soda cans clean in half.
I also have personal experience on the cutting power of whips. I've got scars on my legs from trying to use one that was too long to be properly functional, and one on my face from when one of my friends accidentally hit me (that was the worst of all the cuts, and I'm really lucky the scar faded away).
For wrapping in combat, I hadn't considered going for the neck, but that does make sense. I find snatches (wrapping the weapon and pulling) or wrapping the arm if you want to disarm someone. It's also easier to do a wrap since it's a smaller circumference, which means you need less of the whip to get the ideal 2-3 wraps around. What I find to work best is doing a wrap around the leg. I've pulled people off their feet before, and even if it doesn't wrap, a crack on the leg does hurt.
On speed, it is possible to crack pretty quickly, and multiple times. Combination cracks of three or four can be really fast, and while you would usually want to keep the whip in front as much as possible, I find using reverse cracks (ones that tend to crack behind you) speeds up cracking by letting the motion of the follow through set up the next crack. Examples of that would be things like the cow and calf (cattlemen's or overhand flick followed by an underhand flick), or the volley (overhand flick followed by reverse overhand).
Lastly, on doing two handed with a sword, it does make sense, and I have tried it. I'm not familiar with swords, so it was awkward and cumbersome, but there can be a usage. If you can disarm, disable, or pull down an opponent first with a whip, then you can finish with the sword. If someone gets past the whip (especially longer ones), it's pretty ineffective at close range, which is where the sword would be effective for defense.
If you actually read all that, I hope it was interesting and informative. If you have questions, feel free to ask.
Thanks for the info, gad seen Jacques Ze Whipper before so I've seen his really fast and on-beat cracks of the whip, but its quite impressive the cutting power you described. This should probably be top comment.
I was hoping they'd have tried to go for the opponent's sword as well. Maybe they'll give it a go should they revisit the weapon/topic in the future. I also thought that when the Nate caught the whip, the best simple move would probably be to just drop it and fully switch to the sword.
A further thought was that a more complicated (but possibly more entangling move) of this would be to actually throw the rest of the whip at the opponent. Either just aim it at their face or try to wrap the wrong end of the whip around the sword/sword arm. Basically, if they caught it on their left side, where they are holding it is the fulcrum. Throw the handle towards their right side with the intent to entangle the sword arm with the rest of the whip/whip handle. It may not work well, but even one or two seconds while they try to disentangle could be all that's needed to end the fight. And if you're no good wielding a weapon left handed like Tyranth, doing this would put your right hand across your left side, possibly allowing you to either switch hands or at least switch the sword to a two handed grip.
Interesting on the last point, because that would be how a ninja’s sickle & chain would function (though for a more economical weapon, a sickle with grappling hook would do just as well).
Disarm, entangle/immobilize/tie-up, and finish off with off-hand weapon. (However, the chain or grappling hook would lack the “cracking” function)
I wonder if you were to add thorns or tacks to the end so that a wrap would lead to cuts how would that effect the whips power?
@@Reyn_Roadstorm I think this makes sense. Tangle up the opponent more and use the time they untangle to attack. On your last note, I'm bad at swords left handed, but I can easily use a whip left handed. The easy solution there would be use the sword in the better hand, and use the whip in the left hand, though throwing/dropping the whip does allow you to hold the sword with both hands.
Seeing Shad NOT wearing medieval armor is what looks strange to me. How funny is that.
I think he really pulls off the Indiana Jones look
@@codyworley5623 Oh he pulls it off admirably, but it is for sure weird to not see him in a gambeson. Especially when the boys show up and stand beside him.
Something to note guys, you can use smaller whips for smaller spaces. Looks like you might be using a 15 foot whip but an 8 or 6 ft whip might work well indoors paired with a smaller sword. Plus you can crack a short whip much more rapidly than the 15 and 20 footers.
When fighting with a Whip you should also have a sub weapon... I suggest using the Holy Water.
@@EmeraldEyesBibleSecrets Yes, and preferably the whip will be made of chain and have a ball at the end
Indeed, there are even shorter drill whips designed for indoor practice.
Shorter whips crack faster, but not as hard. Longer whips crack slower, but that crack is LOUD. 8 to 10 feet is considered a decent beginner length. Going as far as 15-plus is more of an expert sort of thing.
I think its fair to say that the first 2 minutes of his video is the best piece of content Shad has ever produced
Edit: then he has the balls to follow it up with the coolest intro sequence i've ever seen.
Nothing is more fun than watching 3 good friends totally platonically whipping each other and having fun
This looks so much fun.
YESSIR!
I'm glad you added that platonic in there.
@@zixvirzjghamn737 totally platonically*... Nothing has been confirmed >:)
@@vicarsita5510most people upon seeing Tyranth become Ty-curious at least.
Many many years ago I was staying with a friend in California (I'm from the UK) and I was looking through his book shelves and came accross a book called 'The Filipino Fighting Whip' I called my friends attention to this and he surprised me by saying this was a regular interest of his. So of course it wasn't long until we were on a field with a 4' whip. By the way we both wore eye protection.
I was nervous of it as I manage to catch myself in the back of the head but he took me through some drills and it was fun. By the end of it was fairly sure it could be used effectivly for fighting if you were capable of using it that is. I wouldn't think people could just pick one up.
I got to say that the whip you were using isn't a fighting whip. The Filipinos used 4 and 6 foot whips. Bull whips are for... well cows. I think it was told to me that they would crack it at certain angles from the cow to drive it in certain directions.
The shorter whips are far better for handling people and a Filipino would have a knife in the offhand if they managed to get past whip range.
Latigo y daga
@@darkwyngraymsiempre, the rat is very important.
Filipino Knife Fighting /alone/ sounds like a heaping helping of " If I've wound up here I'm already screwed "
Much less adding a whip specifically designed for humans
Filipino martial arts (from what little I know) is generally geared around close quarters, so it's probably just generally a good reference point for fighting in sub-optimal conditions and close range.
Interesting about the short whips, though. I'll have to look that book up.
If it's made up of stingray tail, it's for exorcism.
In the Mythbusters whip episode, the whip-master summed it up well. When asked if he could whip a gun from someone's hand, he said why try when he can go for the eyes instead.
A supersonic slap in your eyes, face, or throat would probably disrupt your aim for a while.
@@pwnmeisterageah, especially if the tip actually strikes the eyes, in which case it will disrupt your aim pretty much indefinitely.
There are reasons. Someone might still manage to shoot you even from remembering your position and shooting several bullets if you're close enough to hit their eye with a whip.
@@Mr.Nichan lol you'd have to be superhuman to not flinch when a whipstrike is coming at your face.
@@pwnmeisterage What if you flinch by pulling the trigger after already roughly aiming? There's also plenty of time before and after getting hit to shoot, but I suppose the "before" also applies to any attempt to hit the gun.
I feel your pain Shad. I too have an extreme phobia of CGI boulders.
Well yeah a paper mache boulder you can punch away but cgi boulders are incorporeal what can you do against them D:
@@procow2274 They're truly unstoppable.
4:45 how it works (shad science)
7:45 thoughts
10:15 test
10:50 swing test and thoughts
12:40 accuracy
15:10 vs bolamer
22:25 thought
26:00 vs sword and more thoughts
28:30 final thoughts
I thought it was boromir D:
Ah yes, shad science. I too am an expert in this field.
35:31 I really loved watching Shad and company chop down swords with trees. I was amazed they could swing those massive trunks so proficiently. The poor swords never stood a chance.
Yeah, that episode really had the BIG STICK ENERGY vibes going! That Troll at the end never stood a chance.
I really do need a big stick episode
if it was me i think i am going to chop down a tree with a sword and not a sword with a tree :)
Now THAT's what I call a "Functional Fandom" intro! Also, the very beginning with Shad as Indy made me laugh!
lets fund a Shad Indy Indiana Jones film! I would love that!
Reminds me of the Family Guy joke about the same scene.
As much as I love Shad, the two guys are fantastic in playing off each other when it comes to the testing of things. There's a real sense of experienced metnor and enthusiastic novice going on.
The content is jumping to quite a professional level of quality.
Now, they just need obnoxious camera editing, ad breaks and random sound effects to make it a TV show.
@@thesupersonicstigAnd a super slow motion camera because it sort of looks like a galaxy smartphone level slow motion. Still very good content, maybe even add some C4 if that's legal in Australia in a controlled environment.
@@thesupersonicstigwell not every producer aims to be like Abrahams
Shad was really embracing his inner Jack Black during that intro. And he even kinda looked like him with his beard
Facts 😂😂😂
When fighting with a Whip you should also have a sub weapon. I suggest using the Holy Water.
I didn't think "Jack Black" although that it accurate. I thought of Josh Gates from Expedition unknown
maybe also grab an axe and some daggers @@EmeraldEyesBibleSecrets
For the whip wrapping around, it’s very important that when you wrap it wraps as a clove hitch. It is possible, if you’re well trained with a whip.
They're trying imitate them, so they should know, that mythbusters already did this one.
It's important to maintain tension too. If you let it go slack at the bottom the slack just travels back to the fall/cracker
The Mythbusters did an episode on this once iirc, Adam was surprised at how easy it was to control the whip.
Do you mean surprised by? I don't know what supposed st means
If I remember correctly, it took Adam all of ten minutes to get consistent hits on target with the whip he'd made.
And in that episode they also proved the one flick of the wrist, wrapping around a tree limb, isn’t realistic without a limb with a LOT of friction
You're misrepresenting the episode. Adam had been trained by a master whip expert. It was not easy to aim the whip where he wanted to initially and when he learned the proper technique of following through with his wrist in the direction of the target, only then did it get more accurate. But even then Adam wasn't anywhere near like stunt whip performers in terms of control and accuracy. That was just some controlled tests at a set distance.
And in the episode where they were recreating many of Indie's feets from the movies including the whip swing over a chasm it took him numerous attempts to get the whip to bind on their stand in "branch" and that wasn't in a proper whip form, that was just trying to secure it for the sake of the test which was "can a whip hold a person's body weight to swing across the distance needed"
That's why bullwhips have been used for hundreds of years.
Loving how well that Indie costume suits Shad. You look like you were born to be an adventuring archaeologist.
my first thought too. he pulls it off well.
Yeah that's what Australians look like
I like to think he actually always dresses that way off camera.
to be honest my first thought was "he looks like if a young jack black played indie"
I tried on that same jacket, it's vegan "leather"
Good to note: a modern “show whip” like you have is constructed significantly different than proper “purpose whips”, the show whip is sort of like a wall hangar, it looks nice, but effectiveness… not quite all there. Also, just saying, but i think you would have a Blast testing out chain whips (tho not on eachother… they are nasty). Also, there are many different sizes, designs, and tips for whips, and each has massive changes to how well they work for various things
Minus the magic, Castlevania's "Vampire Killer" would send you to the damn ER.
When fighting with a Whip you should also have a sub weapon. I suggest using the Holy Water.
@@auralynn3862 oh hell yeah, and they would need to consult a team of plastic surgeons on repairs… And thats not even counting on the fact that lashing someone is not the right way to fight with a whip, proper use involves using it to wrap and twisting shatter limbs, or, like he tried, neck grapples. I mean, yeah, the strikes hurt, but an arm in about 45 pieces that stick through the skin? A bit worse
@@auralynn3862 or if you get to the more exotic “whips” like those closer to the “manticore’s tail” family of whips… cause having a cluster of bladed metal or crystal spines at the end, often laced in poison, or even barbed, is totally not any problem at all… nope…
@@ConnorSinclairCavin yeah, my exact thought was barbed whip and the cat of nine tails. or something like a coach whip with the 3-4 ft pole used as a handle
The dynamic of Shad, Tyranth and Nate is just so damn good. Never get tired of watching you guys just do stuff. Nate and Tyranth are so good that I don't even mind when Shad steps back and lets them do most of the stuff.
The production and entertainment value of these 3 is better than EVERY "professionally" produced TV shows of similar content by MILES. There isn't even a comparison.
Y6all put Discovery History and History channel to SHAME. Shadiversity is just better in EVERY possible way.
Shad bringing them on was a genius move
On the boromir test, they managed solid hits to the eye. That could cause serious injury to the point of temporary blindness, which counts as incapacitating the opponent
I think the whip in its current design is clearly not designed as an offensive weapon, especially as used here. However, I feel there are several minor adaptations that could better optimise for this function. For starters, I wonder if adding a small weight at the end of the whip might help it wrap around things better. Similarly, I wonder if rubbing powdered glass or metal into the whip would improve its ability to cut through gambeson - I've heard of stories about a sport called kite fighting where people would coat their kite strings with glass, which has resulted in people getting accidentally injured and even killed by the glass-coated kite strings. The glass/metal powder coating would also prevent the enemy from grabbing the whip; at least not without thick hand protection. And the injuries you'd get from face strikes? 😬😬
@@evilwelshman As a further possible modification i'd consider maybe making the whip longer. This would give you more reach and possibly an even higher speed on the tip. Although that would probably also make the whip harder to use and you'd likely need to use more power in your whip strikes to get it to move at all so the detriment might outweigh the benefit. Also i wonder about making the whip out of a different material. Leather is all nice and good but think about a whip made from some very flexible metal like for example silver. Or maybe carbonfiber.
Just pointing out that a real whip can very easily cause permanent blindness.
@@RandallWeeksdefinitely can I worked with a guy who lost an eye because of a whip as he put it he was young and dumb and him and his friends were not using safety gear apparently you can cause dislocation of joints as well but although I don't know how common that is
@@evilwelshman ... I know I looked this up on wikipedia but there is a war whip that is/was actually used.
and I think it had spikes or something at the end or at least something pointy.
One of my favorite videos in the channel!
I think it's important to note that:
- A slash across the forehead that makes the face bleed, will limit visibility.
- The Impact of a broken nose could obstruct airwaves and impede breathing.
- Catching a person in the eye will SERIOUSLY injure the eye, possibly disabling the opponent.
- A crushed trachea might not be as easy to fight with for too long.
Very true, as someone who used to fist fight a lot, even a jab in the nose without breaking it tends to make the eyes water and impede vision, stuns and allows you to build offensive momentum
another thing
you can keep cracking it so getting close would be hard
it doesn't need much wind up to get it to cracke it
especially shorter whips which is good for smaller spaces
which takes out their problem of it being "unusable in smaller spaces"
just get a smaller whip
less effort to crack and faster and good even in small spaces
-the range though
I've also seen whips made with a steel ball bearing inside the heel knot. Essentially gives it a skull crusher pommel if the opponent gets too close. No reason you couldn't also give it enough of a tang inside the handle to be able to add a buttspike in place of the loop as well.
@@kd5nrh This is so true!!
True, but how likely are you going to be to hit an eye while the enemy is charging you? A hit in the face will seriously hurt, but someone hopped up on adrenaline coming at you with murderous intent with a sword is going to shrug it off unless you pull off that perfect strike. Then you're screwed.
Can we just take a moment to appreciate Shad's Indiana Jones cosplay?
This episode would have been perfect to do a colab with Jacques Ze Whipper. Amazing whip cracker and extremely precise.
I wanted to comment the same thing. Maybe we can get a follow-up video with him.
Doubt Jacque has the funds to Australia for a video.
@@redcelticdrake they could do like they do with other people and have the other persons section take place in their home location and the content just jump between them, like when kramer is in a video demonstrating something
Nevermind Jacques ze whipper get Anthony DeLongis
I had the same idea!
shad already did more research than all of disney writers put together
Research and perfect realism doesn't make a great movie.
If that were so, the coz playing man-child would know IJ DID use the whip as a weapon. FFS It was the first thing he did
they said that whips are "slow"
it isn't
i've seen people who knows how to use whips cracks that thing rapidly
hell even dual wielding it it's really fast
@@Tasorius
No, but good writing does.
Which uh... I wouldn't class that writing as good. I know it's personal preference, but I absolutely don't like the writing in the newer movies.
Or about half of 2, honestly.
There's only two movies in my headcanon. Lost Ark and Last Crusade.
@@mattaffenit9898 Yes. Those two are the best ones, but 2 is still worse than both 4 and 5. I don't now how that thing ended up between two masterpieces...
That was an amazing opening few minutes, especially as the lads were talkin about Shad, then he streaked across scene in a panic. Wonderful. Amazing. Stupendiferous.
In the classic Roguelike RPG NetHack, the Archaeologist class's starting equipment includes a leather jacket, a fedora, and a +2 bullwhip. It's not a particularly useful weapon, but can be used to retrieve items, disarm enemies, or latch onto something and pull yourself out of a pit.
And on this day, Tyron discovered he's into whips.
"Happy accidents" lmao
I mean... they're cool, and, stuff...
I may have also discovered that I am into whips today as well.
Good observations. As a whip cracking enthusiast myself, a few pointers:
1. To properly get a whip to grab onto a limb, as soon as it loops around, you pull back to secure a tight knot. This will secure it to effectively "tie itself."
2. Look up Chris Camp - The Whip Guy, Anthony Delongis (who trained Harrison Ford) or Adam Winrich on good tutorials on form. They offer great demonstrations of real world techniques.
3. The cracking isn't the physical strike of an object. The bullwhip is the first man made object to break the sound barrier (in the BC era no less!). That loud crack is a super sonic "boom" that breaks the air as the tiny "cracker" at the end flips. It's quite beautiful!
4.The best places to get high quality whips are: Townsend Whips, Midwest Whips, or Catchell Crafts whips. Those're the higher quality possible, and imo whips of those calibers are the ones that'll properly demonstrate all of your requirements/questions.
Yea, I kept cringing at the “observations from amateur skill level”. I know they addressed this was new to them, but I suggest they bring in someone who knows how to properly wield a weapon rather than experiment with something they haven’t had much experience with.
@@DOSHIELD Heck there are some people I know are local to them. Terry Jacka made the whips for Indy IV, and is local in Australia. Could reach out to him for comment, or perhaps he could direct them to some good crackers in the area. It's a worldwide martial art, and I love seeing people taking an interest in it :)
@@reeseparquette7506 From what I know kangaroo leather makes the best bullwhips, something about the way it stretches, so it makes sense they should be able to get high quality whips locally.
@@Devin_Stromgren 1000% correct. All the makers I listed above make them almost exclusively in kangaroo hide. I don't recommend David Morgan's company (the original makers for the OT, and now DoD), because of how highly expensive they are.
Shad you hit the nail on the head. The whip isn't a primary weapon, it's a support weapon that really sets up your primary weapon for the kill. A better weapon than the whip is the martial arts chain. A master with that weapon is a force.
It might have been helpful if they had some professional whip training
@@theriddler1168 Are you saying they need to get whipped into shape and become whipping good??? 🤔😜🤪
@@jugglejunktake my like and get out.
I think there are also deadlier and more effective materials than leather for this as well even talking outside of metal. If you actually intend it to do damage you're going to want a tip that's a little more rigid and likely to transfer energy than lose it. It might get in the way of the actual wrapping part but that just adds a slightly increased skill requirement.
Buddy of mine in the SCA actually made a chain whip; i.e., a bullwhip made of chainmail links just to see if it could be done. Now that sucker would easily kill someone; a whip expert and cattleman tested it out and said it was functional, but he would never use it as it would severely injure if not outright kill his cows.
Crazy how the whip is the first manmade tool to break the sound barrier.
It is pretty crazy how long ago whips were invented and break the sound barrier, but are we sure slings don't predate whips? both of course, are incredibly fun to watch :>
I would argue that that would be Mother-In-Laws. :P
Okay ONE moment!! Let's just take a moment to appreciate the acting and work done JUST for that intro buildup skit, this is art! ♥
(also Shad being waterboarded?)
I would like to thank you Shad, for the greatest facial expressions to reference when drawing. Your channel is an invaluable resource when it comes to many things, but this goes seldom appreciated.
Anthony DeLongis, who you can usually find involved with any film where a whip is involved, certainly spoke highly of its efficacy as a weapon. There are some vids online of him speaking about it and demonstrating how he uses it. Pretty interesting guy with lots of experience in bladed weapons, martial arts etc. Oh, and he was also in the best B-movie of all time, Roadhouse, so there's that.
Your skits just keep getting better and better You never fail to impress me with your creative originality!
That intro was legit better than the actual recent movie
What recent movie? There are only 3 Indiana Jones movies!
1989 isn’t that recent dude. You must be old.
@@codylindeman9783 though that too...
I know it's hard to believe that there are kids in pubs who were born after its full ox set release as a trilogy...
But admit it mate... It wasn't recent
Kingdom of the Crystal skull and Dial of Destiny dont exit
Legit epic intro
Loved this video. Truly did, boys. I had a cheap leather whip after seeing Temple of Doom. There were some things I noticed about trying to swing from it. One is that it was easier when the leather was more worn in, and there was a technique to getting it to grab a branch. You have to kind of double flick it. Once to get it to wrap around and a little sideways flick as it starts to wrap so that it has a better chance of wrapping and biting on itself. Keep in mind that I was a child with a flea market whip, but good Lord was it fun. Never did get the Fidora though.
Dagger + whip seems like it would be a pretty good combo. Shorter blade means less chance of entangling your own weapon with the whip, and very effective if you can drag someone down to stab.
Yeahhh but even better if whip was stronger and harder like say a chain....and add to that something nastier than a dagger and you get kusarigama
@@galadballcrusher8182 “But if you use an assault rifle, they can’t reach you” That’s an entirely different weapon type - the kusarigama can be used to entangle, sure, but it doesn’t work like a whip, since it has a weight on the end of the chain. I think you might have misunderstood my point; I didn’t mean a combined weapon, I meant a weapon combination - two weapons used in conjunction. And there are always other variants that can improve on a certain set of circumstances, but I meant in a general sense, since in the demonstration the sword getting in the way seemed to be an issue.
ive actually experimented with this a bit myself useing my bull whip in combination with other weapons and yeah a dagger like my bowie knife pairs best with it for that exact reason, you can kinda make a sword work but you really need to pay attention or you will get tangled up quick unless maybe using a shorter sword maybe.
I was about to comment this
@@mikkohernborg5291 and i think you misunderstood my point some as well. First off i know very well the difference between a whip and a chain thanks very much but the point for me was how they are applied . Even without the elasticity of the whip basically a chain is used roughly for the same actions, strikes and attempts to entangle, therefore crowd and ground control. And if you know how kusarigama is used, one uses the weighted chain for strikes and entanglement and once entanglement succeeds can apply the kama part for slashing or stabbing finishing moves, it never was used by twirling around the kama using the chain. So while it is a single weapon it is used as a set if 2 exactly like what you would so with a whip and a dagger combo .
Only Shad to bring us something good about Indiana Jones on recent days…
Great work, as always!
So you guys are... Medieval and Movie Mythbusters? I LOVE IT.
This is why I love Shad and his crew... This right here.
You guys need to collab with whip users to see how far you can push the question! Jacques Ze Whipper comes to mind!
Adam Windrich or Anthony De Longis
Oooh yeah he's a good one, he uses show whips mostly but I think I've seen him using longer and more "heavy duty" whips.
I love how much fun Shad appears to be having in this one. This is a great video. 😂
I have watched many videos explaining whips, even ones using detailed graphics etc. But I must say, I think shad has done the best job I've seen so far in explaining it in a way most normal human beings understand.
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The Functional Fandom intro is so badass! You really outdid yourselves with this one.
That intro was so stupidly funny.
And it was cool to see the advantages and disadvantages of the whip being shown like that!
You guys are forgetting that whip length plays a big factor. Your whip looked to be about 8 -10 foot, a 5-6 foot whip will be far easier to use in smaller spaces and with debris around. I noticed that when you were doing the water bottle test you were almost always hitting it with the FALL (the long strip of leather on the end) of the whip, in order slice through it you need to hit it with CRACKER (the string attached to the fall). You guys also didn't mention that the opponent can easily USE their Sword to Catch the whip and CUT IT (WHIPS ARE NOT CHEAP). That is something the whip user would need to be mindful about.
They should get a whip specialist on. I recall seeing an Aussie whip user on RUclips once.
10' are suited to wrap work.
6' target work
4.5' martial arts work.
12 foot to 20 foot works even better for wrapping around things found 18 footer works better for me
That's the thing about Indiana Jones: that whip is totally magic and changes length on command.
Someone get Jacques Ze Whipper on the case
There's actually a whip like sword called "urumi" that is basically one or more sharp metal (probably steel but not sure) ribbons attached to a hilt. I don't remember you ever mentioning it although that's not surprising considering your focus on medieval Europe. As far as I understand urumis don't break the sound barrier, so they're whip-like only in the sense that the metal bends. I thought it would be interesting to mention in a whip related video if you ever want to look it up and make a video about it 😄 If you get one, however, be careful as they can be quite dangerous to an inexperienced wielder.
Indian cutting sword x8 lol. They usually come in packs of 8 and are essentially ribbons made of razors. No shield penetration needed, shield warparound lol
Amazing intro. Who knew , shad has a burgundy"esque" comedic talent to him.
Complimentary weapon?
Well, Indiana has a revolver. The whip is his complimentary weapon, Shad!
Nah, Indy's gun is only used when whip is ineffecctive and wits and fists cant solve the problem(Hollywood luck will intervene first and even then he'll try to save an enemy about to die like the guy the guy that got pulled into into the rock pulveriser cause his belt got stuck
@@FrarmerFrankI feel like an in between would be nice to have too.
Fists suck. I mean yes surrounding chairs and bottles or whatever are useful, but I feel like maybe a baton or something to fill the gap between punch and shoot when whip doesn't work could really be nice.
When fighting with a Whip you should also have a sub weapon. I suggest using the Holy Water.
lol, cleric weapons
Holy water is a good choice. I would go with the flying cross or the stopwatch😅.
Shad, 30 seconds into the video: *Vigorously licks hand*
*Vigorously shoves finger up own anus, vigorously removes it, and vigorously puts same finger in mouth*
This is a secret asmr video
And then spends time wiping his hands all over himself.
The intro was amazing Shad, i laughed my ass off here hahaha. Amazing content guys! Now about the wrap around the branch and secure it, is actually possible but requires a lot of practice, i remember that Adam Savage managed to do it on a Mythbusters episode about Indiana Jones and use it to swing over a "chasm" replicating the iconic scene from the movie, but it took him a lot of tries and he had taken whip lessons from professional whip user and practiced for days before the they did the shot that made it to the show. I would be surprised if Nate and Tyranth would get it straight away.
Love the video. I actually made a whip out of parachord, took 3 days of intense braiding which really killed my fingers but was so worth it. I'm a gold and crystal prospector and in the spirit of adventure decided I needed a good whip. That thing became unexpectedly useful in many ways. I used it to climb rock walls by grabbing both ends of the whip with both hands and lassoing onto a hold to hoist my self up, as well as a rope to lower me down. Being made of dozens of strands of 550 parachord it can support a ridiculous amount of weight. I also used it as a tail, like a puma, as a balance weight while jumping from rock to rock in a river. And one time I was walking through the woods and saw a one meter tall mound of dirt and decided to whip it. Only after I did this I noticed the mound started excitedly crawling and realized I pissed off a whole colony of fire ants. I promptly left.
Also, as far as combat capability? Let's just say there was a reason Indiana Jones carried a gun. 😅
The opening with Shad trying to get through the door? Had me nearly in tears. Lmao
I love Nate lol. He's a funny and down-to-earth just generally nice guy
Agreed. Not supposed to have favourites but Nath is my fav!
@@Trisjack20 Don't get me wrong. I love Tyranth too! I've just already complimented him back when he first joined so I felt Nate needed some love too lol The whole crew honestly is just great
@@odotawaissaku3755 I completely agree. I did not misunderstand you, not throwing Shade here. The old guy is just my favourite :) So flipping based!
Excellent tests! I love how you and your crew test anything and debunk a lot of Hollywood melarky.
I started using a bullwhip in the early 90s (an Australian-style one, strangely enough). It's still tied on my saddle today. I started by flicking out out and wrapping it around a post on our porch. The trick to getting it to catch was to get the wraps to cross over each other, which got it to catch, but not much else. I later moved on to catching the feet of cows we were herding. It's possible to catch their feet and make them stumble, but a lariat or reata works better. (Bolas work too, but then you have to get off your horse and get them when you miss). Would I trust my whip as a grappling line? I'd rather not.
Can a whip do damage? The man I worked for could sort cattle with one, and definitely educated the ones that needed an attitude adjustment. It's possible to split ears and break skin, and when I was learning to pop one, I managed to hit myself in the ear. I can verify, IT FREAKING HURTS!! I've also managed to raise welts on a bull that copped an attitude. Would I use one in combat? For distance, yes, but anything closer than 19 or 20 feet, I'd rather have something else.
I'm really surprised you did not try going for the legs.
As a backup weapon, tangling your enemy legs, or maybe even making them fall, is where the money is for the whip.
Even if you would get only one leg, it would force the enemy to stop advancing, or endanger themselves more, or you could attempt a yank to completely imbalance them.
This thing seems like it would be a dream team with a stabby blade, in perfect conditions of course.
Other than that, a great piece of content again!
lmfao!!! Yes! Very happily surprised by the awesome changeup! I have never laughed this hard on a Shad video, and that intro was incredible with the lads! yyyyaya "off-hand whippin'" lol
As a Whip user, I can affirm that the noise itself would make 50% of the possible opponents to turn back
Like racking a shotgun, hundreds of tv shows and movies have conditioned us to recognize that sound as the start of trouble.
It's so much scarier in person, especially when you're not expecting someone with a lot of practice to crack one perfectly a few yards behind you. Any recording just doesn't come close to the real sound of a good crack.
Unsurprisingly, a lot of the cowboys around here have bullwhips and lots of practice...because they spend a lot of time out in the open and the darn things are fun to play with. I don't know how many actually use it other than as a noisemaker when herding, but I'm sure a lot of beer cans and cacti get popped with them.
In my younger years I worked security. There were a number of fights we could end by just slamming out a baton. People getting amped up or stepping forward would stop in their tracks and walk away.
I’ve heard a whip crack from a quality weapon whip. I can confirm the crack is not recorded properly at all, and is instead, much quieter on recording, just like how guns fire is quieter on recording. The person who did the whip crack told everyone to stand about 50 feet away from him and everyone did even though it was a 15 foot whip. The reason everyone listened was because he said that should someone be within range, the becomes incredibly unpredictable purely because of how whips work. He also said that the end of the whip was very worn and I can confirm, that it was indeed worn, so he made sure everyone was to 50 feet and at his sides since it it broke off it would either go forwards or backwards.
I mean, the whip was the choice weapon for vampire hunters.
What about a 𝘊𝘳𝘰𝘴𝘴-Bow
Dip the cracker in holy water.
@@markziff7234that's racist lmao
When blessed, sure
what media besides castlevania have you seen where the whip is the weapon of choice among vampire hunters? even in castlevania the whip is mainly used by belmonts, not vampire hunters in general. also the whip they use isn't their weapon of choice because it's a whip, it's because it's magically enchanted which makes it powerful against vampires. it's even less powerful when used by non bemlonts.
Chopping down swords with trees might be my favorite slip-up I've heard in a long time.
This was a nice reminder of watching the Mythbusters covering Indiana Jones stuff back in the day.
10/10 would watch Shad intimidate an artifact again.
Loving the production value going up. Really feels like a dang 'brand' now.. but in a good way.
Informative AND entertaining! Loved the candid commentary. On ya boys!
The new intro is freaking bad ass! Also hilarious skit.
There are also different types of whips with different poppers that you can replace for different uses. Imagine the bullwhip having razor sharps blades, barbs, hooks, etc. You can even soak the popper string with poison.
Sounds like a Roman scourge on steroids.
Poison the tip and whip yourself in the ass... woops lol
All the Props to Nate. That is putting your body on the line for your work literally!
I absolutely love the Mythbusters style of this episode. Very entertaining and keep up the great content guys!
That new Functional Fandom opening is awesome! Looks great!
such epic acting in the first minutes and such a banger opening - instant like
It's like if Croc Dundee took up archeology. An exotic combo in my opinion.
My brother weaves his own whips and can crack a line of soda cans / water bottles in half in a matter of seconds. Genuinely, while I think it's cool to see people exploring the possibilities of a whip, this is one test where getting an expert on the channel would go a long way in answering these nebulous questions of "Would a master be able to..." It's likely that there is a local hobbyist near you, and from what I've seen with my brother and some of the friends he has made through whip making, most of them would be happy to visit and teach.
Or even more than one day of practice
Shad dressed as Indy and this skit gives me mad JonTron Vibes
Great intro! Better than anything Disney has put out in 10 years ;)
Thanks Shad and crew! You are THE ONLY people that made a video of how an armored oponent fares against armor. I needed this for RPG research.
Now... Consider how much effective this could be as a striking weapon if the end had a weathed head or a knife and how nasty it would at grappling it the end "tail" had barbs :O . I guess it would be 10x more usefull.
Functional Fandom got its own intro? That's pretty cool!
This was great. Good, clear explanation regarding the energy spreading through the whip. And ou three seem to have great fun practising your skills. Well done.
Nice little video as always. But I think there is still potential for a second video here. It would be interesting to explore where the whip was used as a weapon throughout history and the different whip versions.
When considering targets without any protection, aiming for the eyes and ears is also quite a powerful punch. One that might render you blind or disoriented.
Now, I will note that there are also some more... 'destructive' whips, like the "Cat O Nine Tails" which has razors on the edge and is meant as a method of punishment and I imagine has more chance at tangling and grappling.
Still, the fact that a 'normal' whip is as effective as is really eye opening.
Plus the whip they use is mainly used for intimidation and/or restraining and not for actual fight.
I've not heard of a cat-of-nine-tails with razors in the tips. As far as I have seen they were just knotted at the ends.
If you have any examples I'd love to hear about them.
The cat as designed by thr british navy was either notted or with small weights. No razors sorry. Also was very short and meant for punishment.
@@dd11111I don’t believe the cat was typically knotted, unless for a particularly severe punishment.
@@jmcc4566 Well, in more extreme cases it would be knotted with glass or bone fragments, but to deserve a punishment that hard you'd have to really mess up since I guess the next punishment in the list would be death itself.
Love the intro glad to see you guys branching out
This just highlights the genius of Zoro
(who made made whips look badass in combat way before Indie)
Big strong dude with very lean weapons. So deadly, yet he mercifully just brands them.
Zoro using a whip also makes more sense setting wise. In the 18th and 19th century Southwest a bullwhip would be a commonplace item.
I love this crew and the style Shad’s going with. Keep up the good work!!!!
That was by far the best intro I’ve seen in a long while.
There is historical precedent of distraction weapons being used. Like darts, throwing knives, shuriken, fistfuls of sand, caltrops and so on.
I'd say that a whip would qualify as a re-usable distraction weapon.
So with training using it alongside a one handed sword, short sword or dagger, it could be a quite formidable combo.
POCKET SAND
I hate sand, it's course and rough and it gets everywhere
Tbh a thrusting weapon along with a whip to distract, blind, or bind can certainly be effective. Just needs to open a vector of attack
@@assortmentofpillsbutneverb3756 There's kinda historical precedent for that too.
Among ancient roman gladiators, the retiarius fought with a trident and a net.
Granted a net isn't a whip, and a trident has three spikes rather than one like a spear.
But the net is still a non-rigid, flexible weapon and waa used as a distraction and entangling device
I bet a whip with a tip that would hook in and grab people would be great with a spear. Like those gladiators that used nets and spears or tridents.
Mythbusters did a lot of testing on using a whip to try to swing across a gap, iirc it worked and they were able to get the whip to stay. You need to be able to get the whip to lock itself into a half hitch in order to stay in place.
I swear I've heard of dagger/whip dual-wielding, somewhere. Then there's the issue of shorter whips (like horsehair whisks, or the nagaika), which admittedly tend to lack the binding potential the sheer length of that beauty grants you.
I really liked this demonstration. Now I'm curious if Shad could get an actual expert on the show to give advice on possible motions that can be used in a choreographic patterns that could be used in combat to make it even more effective.
Cheers to Shad. I’m so glad he’s made inroads with the Drinker and Nerdrotic team
Really cool video guys, awesome work! I'm a Filipino Martial Arts practitioner as a hobby and we actually use the whip as a weapon in combination with a dagger or small sword in some of our training. Very similar to some of the conclusions you came to here, using it to entangle the head or limbs and finish off with the dagger, or to stun or even temporarily blind opponents with hits to the face before closing in, that's the theory anyway. There's also some usage of it like a rope close in and using a sturdier handle to bash like a stick, but that's less common. Thanks again, awesome video keep up the good work.
Loving these kinds of videos. you all are so fun to watch! keep up the great work boys!
Should I, somehow, ever find myself in the position of retrieving a priceless ancient artifact I will definitely be sure to rub some pit stank and fermunda cheese on my hands before pilfering it. Thanks for the pro-tip Shad!
To solve the problem of it catching on things around you, just use the Castlevania whip which magically shortens and lengthens to the exact size you need
Shad Jones has made an appearance and he is dealing with one of the most iconic items in Indiana Jones arsenal and it is awesome just like that new intro.
Apart from Indy himself there have been others who have used a bullwhip like the Lone Ranger, Lady Rawhide, Lash Larue, Catwoman and Zorro as well.
COSSACK WHIP!! PLEASE! Also the quality and collaborations are off the charts.