The difference that one year makes, Sweden, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands and even France changing border laws, changing migration laws, asylum laws. This comes late, but still, better late than never.
Nobody changed "border laws" (whatever that suppose to mean lol, you mean imigration laws?) Germany started doing border checks, but thats not a new law, they just started enforcing an already existing law, they can do border checks for a certain amount of time ( ithink 6 months max or something)
@@Elatenlyour tone is very condescending, if anything that’s not a good way to get a conversation going or gather people to understand your point of view.
Yes the Netherlands got a nee government that likes to try illegal things which repeatedly get shot down by the courts. Therefore they have started to frustrate other things in the process so the situation gets worse so they can declare an emergency successfully bypassing democratic institutions.
The Dutch and other Europeans are not necessarily against immigration. The Dutch are not big fans of chaos and disorder. They are simply against the messy way the politicians did immigration and the poor results. For this reason, this will drive anti-immigration votes.
Can we be Honest here, maybe the Types of Immigrants are the Problem? Let me guess, the Dutch aren’t having many problems with Poles, Ukrainians, French, Italians, Greeks, Israelis, Australians, Japanese but for some mind-boggling reason there is a difference when Immigrants come from Syria, Turkey, Pakistan, West Bank, Jordan, Lebanon ? I don’t know what it could be, I think DW mentioned Gov Bureaucracy at one point, I don’t know I think it’s something else ?
@@GG-un7hj Correction: some pro rus extreme right types,(only 24%) use the rather small groep of immigrants as their business political model. They are the biggest party now, only because there are a lot of smaller parties, together 76%, that don t buy this BS.
Daar heb je in de regel geen reet aan, want een groot deel is jup en daardoor politiek gekleurd of loopt te stoken. Laat ze wachten tot er concrete plannen worden uitgevoerd.
Some leftists are racist towards indiginous Europeans populations. Some leftists are racists because they are not from indiginous European populations, cultures or faiths.
Usually the men come first, and then hope for the possibility of family reunification. Keep in mind that fleeing is not without risk (yeah I know that's an understatement), and these young men are physically stronger. Did you really not know this?
Bottom line is, you can't trust Brussels to do anything meaningful on immigration/asylum seekers. Save your countries .. do what you need to do. There will always be people criticising your decisions.
Calling on an emergency law for something like this? I think that's not well done at all, it's unethical to choose this as a way to bypass democracy. A lot of Dutch people will feel betrayed. It's not a smart thing to do.
@@lb9029 What is unethical is that the democratic will of the people has been ignored by the centre and the left for decades. As a result the problems caused by mass uncontrolled immigration are now required emergency measures. In case you have not opened your eyes these problems include. Increased strain on housing Increased strain on education Increased strain on healthcare Lower wages for workers Increased benefits bill Increase in social segregation Clashes of cultural values that are not compatible with western values (for example the age of consent and women rights ) Increase in crimes levels and hence more victims of crime. Still no need for emergency measures ?
Only 27% of the votes the far right PVV got, but it was enough to make a rightwing government because our dumb VVD worked with them. VVD is a little like the CDU. They are in the EU with Renew, so a rightwing party a little left to the CDU in the EU. The leftwing PVDA/GL is the second biggest party with 20% of the votes. It's been a absolute mess in the coalition. Coalition partners yelling at each other, a guy who leading party member who cried 3 times in the coalition and now stepped back for health reasons. Tweets from the PVV against other coalition members. Racist slurs the had to apologize for to other members. He offended the whole country Jordan the VVD had to apologize for. This asylum crisis will be canceled by a judge. Everybody here knows that already. The Farmers party the BBB who were railing against climate rules, but now run the same agenda now resulting in the leading party member to say she quits if it doesn't change. Blaming the EU and the last government. They are in the EVP with Ursula in the EU. This coalition will never make it resulting in a left take over probably. Last year my country had a leftwing party winning was in 1997. It's been all rightwing here since 2001.
Guys , I’m a Moroccan Dutch , and I am personally fed up with the asylum situation in NL.. can you imagine that the government pays 105€ per day for every asylum seeker to stay in a 4 stars hotel , fed , housed , and pocket money for the whole family , all for free , while we are struggling to make end meets ! Enough with this mess being paid by our tax money ! The hotel is in Valkenburg by the way 😅
B/c the far left is over indexed in education and media. Media attracts people who believe the purpose of the profession is activism and whose views are to the left of the majority of the population.
It's not the anti immigrantion policies I have a problem with. It's how the government continues it's short term thinking by not doing anything about the terrible state of our nature and farmland. We're notorious for our lack of biodiversity. But our politicians refuse to look beyond anything but the next few years. Same with restriction money going into research and education. Our country is based on trade and knowledge, on being innovative. If things continue this way it will be the right wing government, not the immigrants, who drives our country off the deep end.
We have had a housing crisis since ww2 and it never ended, also the asylum seekers get a first in line policy for any housing available over normal citizens and government help with applying for benefits from the day they get accepted. Its all bad government policy.
403108 people migrated to The Netherlands in 2022. The overwhelming majority for work or study. Address the housing crisis, for instance, to the employers of these immigrants.
@@NhatHuyNg No he was referring to expats. The Netherlands has a 30% ruling that makes it attractive for expats to come and work. Most of these companies are in the Randstad area, and since everybody wants to live in Randstad, it drives up housing prices in these areas. These companies gladly hire internationals than locals because they get to hire slightly cheaper labor and the internationals get to have a slightly higher wage than the locals, it's a win-win solution for employers and internationals, but but a losing situation for the locals. It also doesn't help that the Netherlands has a high number of English taught study programs. Psychology, Business Administration, Economy, Biology, Chemistry, Public Health, Linguistics, Political Science, Computer Science, AI, History: these are programs commonly taught in English in The Netherlands.
@@qRT-PCR They need to study in English, outside of the NL no one speaks Dutch. How is a trading nation going to do that only speaking Dutch or rudimentary English?
No country can accept an unlimited number of immigrants. Even Americans, a nation of immigrants, are not happy. What the native-to-immigrant ratio should be in a country is something each country must decide for itself.
As usual you’re deliberately missing the point. The problem is NOT the situation in asylum centres, it’s the situations immigrants cause in our societies.
I don't see that problem at all. Yes, there are some groups that integrate more than other groups. It is called diversity and is generally very beneficial for a country. It has been for the Netherlands for the past 400 years.
You are missing the point. They were discussing the legal feasibility of an emergency law. This requires (surprise) an emergency. FYI: Laws are something grownups have to deal with in a state.
@@ronaldderooij1774 diversity means some groups integrate more than others? Not a good point. As for the last 400 years, integrating someone from a few kilometres over the border is far different than someone from the Congo, for example. Just walk down a Dutch street and see who is crossing without waiting for a light change, throwing garbage etc. Who needs it?
@@ronaldderooij1774 "integrate more than other groups" there's literally certain east african groups (somali's) which are still on average 40% of them leeching off social securities after 10 years. Throw them out.
We (The Netherlands) are supersaturated with asylum seekers and that is something the Dutch government should determine, not Brussels! We insist that this policy is executed or we should demand to leave the EU. It is incomprehensible that the Europeans have been submitting to the whims of Brussels for so long! These simpleton bureaucrats under influence of Germany and France communists have been destroying this most beautiful continent for decades. Time for a complete change.
@@profiler4772 my brother in christ all of these countries have been led by center-right governments for a decade. This is simply more evidence that the right can't govern.
Is this a standard Russian Troll post where you fill in the blanks with different countries... We (The Danish) ... and then change Dutch for Sweden... etc etc ;)
Bypassing all other parties people have voted for by calling on an emergency law, while many agree this is not an actual "crisis"? Yeah, it's a bad thing. Many people feel betrayed. Besides, it will hardly solve anything. We had a solution for this, but it was rejected over and over for unclear reasons, it was called the "spreidingswet". Right-wing populist parties just took advantage of a huge mismanagement of the asylum seeker influx, and did not even *want* a proper solution because that would mean they'd no longer be able to push their agenda.
I'm an immigrant in the netherlands but got my visit from my work and married a dutch man. The housing crisis is a huge problem. We are both working and can't find a house , daycare for our son etc. The country is small and densely populated. Full=full
It amazes me that all the legacy media outlets peddle the same nonsense and labeling everything not left as “far right.” Of COURSE it’s a major issue of concern for the Dutch! The media really is abhorrent
Exactly. It seems very extremist to me that we are expected to just give up our country, our society and our culture in order to make space for everybody else, because this is literally what is happening.
Correct - there is very little right in the Dutch government, its More like Stalinism - this historic cuts in education and culture, this historic increase in vat taxes, and no benefits for normal people- but a sanctification of domestic farmers and workers. Nothing right about that, its Purest Stalinism
I am Dutch. The government isn’t nationalist. That’s really incorrect. 😢 There is a nationalist party in the government. The PVV. In our system political party’s need to work together. That means they all have to compromise. We have four political party’s now in the government. It’s a more right agenda now but definitely not far right.
PVV is right wing populist, and the largest party. BBB is also right wing populist. VVD and NSC are more traditional right wing parties. So overall, the government is half nationalist right, half traditional right.
@@Ikbeneengeit actually they were not right winged this time 😂 they were actually centre party just concervative. VVD was more right winged but Progressive so you are spreading misinformation. Lots of people are confused about this, but I checked this before I went voting.
We can’t even house our own people.. you end up on a waiting list for literally a decade or you need to be rich to, on average, you can add your own money 150k euro on top of a mortgage.. It’s a crisis.
@@dweb no. Yeh right after ww2, sure, but no. If you really want to say now, that on average you couldn’t really get a house before you are 30 since basically the 50’s, you are either lying or not Dutch.
@@DikkieDikism So why are so many Dutch ppl, living in the border regions in Belgium? Maybe because in Belgium the government allows its people to build houses? Its not a problem to knock down a single house and put an appartment block. It might not look pretty but the ppl have houses.
I don't think that Geert Wilders is FAR-right, and i think this reform is good for all people who live in The Nederlands, an adult child should not be granted asylum in the name of "Family reunion"
Bad news for asylum seekers, the preferential treatment of status holders in the allocation of social housing is going to disappear. Without preferential treatment, count on 10 - 15 years of waiting time. You can of course buy something (count on minimal 350,000 euros) but then you also need to earn a lot, E.g. if you have a doctor's or engineer's degree and can work as a medical doctor or engineer.
I am all for migration as long as it is the right ones that come. Migration from Africa and the Middle-East are of catastrophic results. The Dutch Government had to react to avoid results that would be even worse. An asylum-policy like in Germany is national suicide. They have done too little much too late.
The reason for this is not racism or islamofobie. Netherlands has a housing crisis. Every year more then 50.000 people come in the country. And there is a lack of 400.000 houses allready.
Around 40.000 asylum seekers ... and the rest of the family is yet to follow ... Asylum should be for our next door neighbors in case of war, a huge catastrophe or something similar but always temporarily. No asylum for those who travel half the world looking for fortune, they have a neighboring country as well where they can be save when there is the need to. There's no room for freeloaders. And sometimes you just have to fight for a better future, as almost all European peoples did. Therefor the Ukrainian people have earned my respect and support where the Afghan people e.g. did not, they choose to surrender to the Taliban. According to my book they have to either accept the consequences of their choises or fight. Running away is no free pass to get asylum in the Netherlands. My ancestors and me myself too worked hard enough to improve life. We did so for our own families and the Dutch people, not for some uninvited, permanent staying cuckoo chicks.
The asylum crisis is artifical constructed by the far right PVV and 35 years of neglecting to build houses by the capitalistic governements which left this issue to the so called free market.
Asiel is only 11% of immigrants. The extreme right has a minister of deportation. It's sad and not what normal Dutch citizens want. The housing problem is caused by people who want to make too much money on overpriced houses. Affordable housing is just not interesting for contractors.
The housing problem is real, its not even the illegals who are making it worse, its also the international students from israel, and america who are making it hard
Yes. You know.. as a parent, eventually your children grow up and become adults, but they never stop being your children. That's how the english language works.
The largest issue here is the housing, not the immegrants themselves. Most, by far the lion's share, are decent people, wanting to work and participate in Dutch cultures and traditions. But those who aren't allowed (socially, economically, bureaucratically) to integrate are causing issues, that populists use to distract of the larger problems facing this country. It is still insane to me that migration was the largest talking point during the lastest elections, while our government systems are crumbling after decades of going (economically) too hard neoliberal and the mismanagement that resulted from Rutte.
What many do say, is, no-one isn't against immigration or asylum seekers, what they are against is mass migration and asylum seekers especially at the numbers it is standing at year on year.
The politicians finally waking up. As an EU citizen, I don’t understand why we have to sponsor endless stream of young men from Middle East and Africa.
To be honest I'm disappointed in interviewing someone from The Guardian, which has a reputation as a deeply questionable source that twists narratives and sometimes outright makes them up.
Says who? It has excellent statutes, guaranteeing independence and not profit driven. In research polls they are very highly regarded by the public. When Edward Snowden needed journalists whom he could trust, where did he turn to? Exactly. So I ask you once more, based on what facts/sources/research do you think the Guardian is questionable?
@@Maceman1990 Says everybody serious. Say all the actual journalists. Remember 2014 when the Guardian told us all gamers hate women, and the gamers had hired snipers to kill the feminists so only absolute loyalty to 3rd wave feminism could save teh womenz? Yeah even the questionable women who lead that movement dropped that act, most became normal. The Guardian is the only one who still stands by that false narrative.
If these countries also decide to stop waging and supporting wars and interfering with the internal affairs of other, less wealthy countries, it would be a better world.
Wilders wanted to leave the EU as well. The PVV is not a party as it a business a la the Reform party in the UK. (Did you really think Farage would have an original thought?)
I live here and it's alarming to see how many children in some schools in early grades happen to be more from middle eastern ans north africans families...
It is understandable that the Netherlands is taking steps to regulate the influx of asylum seekers, especially given the pressure on housing, healthcare, bad intergration and education. The fact that the people, after 10 months of democratic process, have chosen this direction shows that there is broad support for stricter policies. Kudos to the government for listening to the concerns of the population and trying to find a solution that aligns with the democratic choices of the people.
The presenter asking what do the people think, well read the comments here. You could tell like 3 years ago already that people are fed up with the "cultural enrichment"
Exactly. It is unsustainable. The worst judgement call Angela Merkle ever made back in 2015. Be like Hungary and Poland. Take care of your citizens and preserve your culture.
When will DW finally start serious investigative reporting? Asylum seekers are not the real problem but mass immigration for exploitation of cheap labor in branches, such as agriculture and meat processing.
Right: you are aware that the new dutch government is largely run by Dutch agriculture oligarchs? They create an asylum crisis to distract the people from what is really going pn: tell me- when a government is cutting spending on everything from education to health care, is increasing vat taxes, yet has a record government deficit: where is the money going? Exactly- in the pockets of agriculture oligarchs
Afterall it was predictable. You might be the kindest person y open your house to all the poor and in need but there will come a moment you will be sick and tired and will say “get out of my house” or “ I want my house back”. These European lows actually opened the boarders for everyone to come and demand money, education, health care, living facilities without giving anything back.
Have you got any idea about how these asylum seekers have been selected? They have mostly been pre-selected by Russia and Belarus, before they were allowed into our country's. Two pre-selectors with whom we are involved in a proxy war... Do you consider that normal or acceptable?
The problem is that we've been lax when the economy was okay, but now it causes economic harm. We should stop all immigration and refocus on what's there now and redraw the lines on what's economic and what isn't. European laws aside, if Poland can choose than so can anyone else
those places voted to stay part of the Kingdom of The Netherlands. they had a choice between several options, including full independence. and 3 of them wanted to become nations but stay in the Kingdom and the other 3 wanted to become like mainland cities. so they chose themselves to stay part of The Netherlands. please learn history before making false claims and making a complete fool of yourself
The first guest speaks in a very biased way. Some neutrality would be nice. The second guest is plain wrong to claim that the Solingen incident lead to the success of the AfD in the subsequent elections. The success is based on politial developments since the 1990s.
The solution is simple: help these people's countries or stop destroying them. Therefore, people would not have to leave their home countries seeking better conditions. Take Iraq as an example.
You can feel that this will reverberate throughout europe. if one of the Founding members of the EU and a country known wide for its tolerance says: NO MORE. it is done
The EU bureaucrats in Brussels need to change the laws to take into account the unprecedented levels of asylum seekers entering Europe! The EU laws are far too rigid and far too irresponsible with taxpayers hard earned money. It’s just not fair that asylum seekers get benefits that the locals don’t get, like housing, healthcare and education. The asylum seekers are gaming the system just like here in the US. Just stop it.
The problem is the transitioning from temporary "shelters" or whatever you want to call it, which is generally not nice being with 7 people in one room, to regular housing. Mostly these are houses which residents wait for 10-15 years for to be able to enter, and have to pay for especially with today's prices. It's not fair if (illegal) immigrants get such houses without waiting and for free. Same problem in England I think. You can't just give people regular houses which are unaffordable for even double-mid incomes.
A moratorium sounds absolutely realistic and long overdue. It just makes sense if a parent is admitted that adult children are not part of reunification. It needs to end somewhere.
The media. The #1 problem to address SHOULD be… NOT migration. Doesn’t even crack the top 3. But now everybody talks about the wrong topic, from Sweden to Italy, Germany to the Netherlands. The media!!!
Well done Netherlands politicians you protect your citizens and way of life. Unlike UK politicians doesn't know how to address the illegal migration issue so pathetic!
Should be open borders for all, just one caveat; must come with your own housing, doctors, dentists, self funded welfare system and large posted bond that is lost if any criminal charges are laid. No problem.
The difference that one year makes, Sweden, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands and even France changing border laws, changing migration laws, asylum laws.
This comes late, but still, better late than never.
Nobody changed "border laws" (whatever that suppose to mean lol, you mean imigration laws?) Germany started doing border checks, but thats not a new law, they just started enforcing an already existing law, they can do border checks for a certain amount of time ( ithink 6 months max or something)
@@Elatenlyour tone is very condescending, if anything that’s not a good way to get a conversation going or gather people to understand your point of view.
Now we just have to send everyone back
It's not good
Yes the Netherlands got a nee government that likes to try illegal things which repeatedly get shot down by the courts. Therefore they have started to frustrate other things in the process so the situation gets worse so they can declare an emergency successfully bypassing democratic institutions.
Highly support the Netherlands in this.
The Dutch and other Europeans are not necessarily against immigration. The Dutch are not big fans of chaos and disorder. They are simply against the messy way the politicians did immigration and the poor results. For this reason, this will drive anti-immigration votes.
yes done on purpose
Can we be Honest here, maybe the Types of Immigrants are the Problem?
Let me guess, the Dutch aren’t having many problems with Poles, Ukrainians, French, Italians, Greeks, Israelis, Australians, Japanese but for some mind-boggling reason there is a difference when Immigrants come from Syria, Turkey, Pakistan, West Bank, Jordan, Lebanon ?
I don’t know what it could be, I think DW mentioned Gov Bureaucracy at one point, I don’t know I think it’s something else ?
Don't be coy. Say it as it is: the supreme fascist dictatorship ideology.
@@GG-un7hj Correction: some pro rus extreme right types,(only 24%) use the rather small groep of immigrants as their business political model.
They are the biggest party now, only because there are a lot of smaller parties, together 76%, that don t buy this BS.
@@GG-un7hj wrong, the extreme right only likes other extreme right people. Then it doesn t matter were they come from.
Why is there not a Dutch person/journalist/expert/politician being interviewed or been asked for clarifications?
Daar heb je in de regel geen reet aan, want een groot deel is jup en daardoor politiek gekleurd of loopt te stoken. Laat ze wachten tot er concrete plannen worden uitgevoerd.
They prefer going with radical leftists like The Guardian, after all compared to them everyone looks like "the far right".
Because the outside journalist are exaggerate the situation in the Netherlands
@@basmienis good question
That journalist is Dutch! I can hear he is definitely not 100 procent British. I think he is Dutch citizen
Good.Poland can do it. Why wouldn't other EU countries be able to have their own policy?
Exactly, who makes these ridiculous laws that nobody likes to adhere to? Can we get back a state?
Because Poland never let them in! Not Hungary either.
@@nxxxx9601 putin propa
@@petertyckare3432 orban propa
Because they agreed to international treaties and they should uphold these.
There must be limits that prioritize the concerns and interests of native citizens.
some leftist consider that idea a racism
indeed the world does all it can to stop invasive specie but since they walk on 2 leg we consider them people they are not.
Some leftists are racist towards indiginous Europeans populations. Some leftists are racists because they are not from indiginous European populations, cultures or faiths.
@@kohtalainenalias who cares?
@@backintimealwyn5736 politicians and woke people :/
If it asylum crisis, how come there are almost just young men flee these counties? Where are the women and the babies?
They stay home to fight?
Usually the men come first, and then hope for the possibility of family reunification. Keep in mind that fleeing is not without risk (yeah I know that's an understatement), and these young men are physically stronger. Did you really not know this?
is cheap labor, just cheap labor
They fight over their lives to get to those countries; the countries that are mostly responsible for their miseries back home; you don't know this?
@@braislorenzo8770 cheap labor? Most asylum seekers here are not even allowed to work without residential status.
@@Shahkabul3399interesting Russia is one of the country who is responsible for misery in their countries but nobody goes there …
Bottom line is, you can't trust Brussels to do anything meaningful on immigration/asylum seekers. Save your countries .. do what you need to do. There will always be people criticising your decisions.
WELL DONE NETHERLANDS 🇳🇱
said ivan
@@PutinPuppet-z7wNo says anybody with common sense chap.
Calling on an emergency law for something like this? I think that's not well done at all, it's unethical to choose this as a way to bypass democracy. A lot of Dutch people will feel betrayed. It's not a smart thing to do.
@@lb9029 What is unethical is that the democratic will of the people has been ignored by the centre and the left for decades.
As a result the problems caused by mass uncontrolled immigration are now required emergency measures.
In case you have not opened your eyes these problems include.
Increased strain on housing
Increased strain on education
Increased strain on healthcare
Lower wages for workers
Increased benefits bill
Increase in social segregation
Clashes of cultural values that are not compatible with western values (for example the age of consent and women rights )
Increase in crimes levels and hence more victims of crime.
Still no need for emergency measures ?
Nothing really changes. This is theater.
Good. Europe must be unified in this
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Nope it's like we all forgot about ww2...
And dutch people are the sweetest accepting people
Believe me they ruined it for themselves
Like Sweden, apparently.
So I am guessing you live here. Cause you sound like you live here.
ducth people are the most sweetest accepting people? thats some hard cope.
@@chigchong2805😂 yeah. That's a nice joke, I agree.
@@chigchong2805idk what Dutch people you got to know but the ones I know are sweet yes
Netherlands is looking for a reset - totally understandable.
the putin reset
They are nuts, and i am dutch
Only 27% of the votes the far right PVV got, but it was enough to make a rightwing government because our dumb VVD worked with them. VVD is a little like the CDU. They are in the EU with Renew, so a rightwing party a little left to the CDU in the EU. The leftwing PVDA/GL is the second biggest party with 20% of the votes.
It's been a absolute mess in the coalition. Coalition partners yelling at each other, a guy who leading party member who cried 3 times in the coalition and now stepped back for health reasons. Tweets from the PVV against other coalition members. Racist slurs the had to apologize for to other members. He offended the whole country Jordan the VVD had to apologize for. This asylum crisis will be canceled by a judge. Everybody here knows that already. The Farmers party the BBB who were railing against climate rules, but now run the same agenda now resulting in the leading party member to say she quits if it doesn't change. Blaming the EU and the last government. They are in the EVP with Ursula in the EU. This coalition will never make it resulting in a left take over probably. Last year my country had a leftwing party winning was in 1997. It's been all rightwing here since 2001.
for the putin reset, ivan
@@erikaverink8418 No they are not nuts, its about time they start do something about it.
Illegal? I know what they are referencing... but the very idea that a country can not enforce its own boundary is ridiculous.
do something soon before your country is completely destroyed
Before the mayer lets immigrant culture drive hawock in the streets like London.
Yes ,i ame from the netherland
@@angelapost8754 so how's wilders doing so far, is he doing what he promised he'd do?
The Netherlands have to save themselves from sharia
Guys , I’m a Moroccan Dutch , and I am personally fed up with the asylum situation in NL.. can you imagine that the government pays 105€ per day for every asylum seeker to stay in a 4 stars hotel , fed , housed , and pocket money for the whole family , all for free , while we are struggling to make end meets ! Enough with this mess being paid by our tax money ! The hotel is in Valkenburg by the way 😅
Where which 4 star hotel .?
Nederland is Marokkanen het meeste zat. Wat vind je daarvan?
Well said.
@@sanaryawaly1851 they are fed up with people who live in their own bubbles and don't integrate. it's not always the case.
@@elisabeterosa2414 And who want to overthrow the democratic system and replace it with a caliphat.
Now is time for Norway to follow suit.
and the UK and Australia.
Why does DW always bring in an expert who is always pro asylum seekers
B/c the far left is over indexed in education and media. Media attracts people who believe the purpose of the profession is activism and whose views are to the left of the majority of the population.
"expert"
@@ironandzincexperts can be biased 🎉
@@pinchebruha405"are" not "can be". You are an expert because of a point of view; not an open mind.
Let me get this straight: do you want people's opinions who are *against* asylum seekers?
Bravo Netherlands !!!!!!
It's not the anti immigrantion policies I have a problem with. It's how the government continues it's short term thinking by not doing anything about the terrible state of our nature and farmland. We're notorious for our lack of biodiversity. But our politicians refuse to look beyond anything but the next few years. Same with restriction money going into research and education. Our country is based on trade and knowledge, on being innovative. If things continue this way it will be the right wing government, not the immigrants, who drives our country off the deep end.
The EU should have the strictest migration regulations ever. No migration from the east and south.
Exactly!
East ... Japan and Korea are the most east... south is most Argenita and Chile
@@DonHrvato You know what I mean... Don't make it more complicated than it is.
@DonHrvato, don't make it harder for @kriwe503 to say that he only wants white people in EU. As he says, "You know what i mean..." wink wink
Just list the countries Turkey,Syria, Morocco, Yemmen, Eritrea,Nigeria,Ethiopia
This is needed. People with an open border are ill imnformed and naive
We have had a housing crisis since ww2 and it never ended, also the asylum seekers get a first in line policy for any housing available over normal citizens and government help with applying for benefits from the day they get accepted. Its all bad government policy.
That is not even close to be true. And who was most of the time in government, the right wing VVD and CDA.
putin bs
@@erikaverink8418 I don't think you live in NL or you would know.
@@PutinPuppet-z7w Ahh yes thats why you have the username 'Putin's Puppet'
@@erikaverink8418 And yes for the last 14 years you can indeed mostly blame VVD
It is native European citizen crisis!
putin talk
@@PutinPuppet-z7w😂😂 such low effort trolling. Do better troll bot 😂😂
There is a massive housing crisis so it is difficult to take people in when there is nowhere to put them.
403108 people migrated to The Netherlands in 2022. The overwhelming majority for work or study. Address the housing crisis, for instance, to the employers of these immigrants.
@@dweb and that is why they’re trying to get rid of the 30% ruling
@@dweb LOL work in what? bomb making? study what? master in quranism?
@@NhatHuyNg No he was referring to expats. The Netherlands has a 30% ruling that makes it attractive for expats to come and work. Most of these companies are in the Randstad area, and since everybody wants to live in Randstad, it drives up housing prices in these areas. These companies gladly hire internationals than locals because they get to hire slightly cheaper labor and the internationals get to have a slightly higher wage than the locals, it's a win-win solution for employers and internationals, but but a losing situation for the locals. It also doesn't help that the Netherlands has a high number of English taught study programs. Psychology, Business Administration, Economy, Biology, Chemistry, Public Health, Linguistics, Political Science, Computer Science, AI, History: these are programs commonly taught in English in The Netherlands.
@@qRT-PCR They need to study in English, outside of the NL no one speaks Dutch. How is a trading nation going to do that only speaking Dutch or rudimentary English?
No country can accept an unlimited number of immigrants. Even Americans, a nation of immigrants, are not happy. What the native-to-immigrant ratio should be in a country is something each country must decide for itself.
Natives as in Native Americans? 😅🙄😬🤫
Times changed. Where immigrants wanted to build their future they now rather lay back and leech social services.
waitinglist for social housing: 20+ years
Depends on the state. only 2 years in southern south-holland (hoeksche-waard), less than half a year in limburg.
As usual you’re deliberately missing the point.
The problem is NOT the situation in asylum centres, it’s the situations immigrants cause in our societies.
I don't see that problem at all. Yes, there are some groups that integrate more than other groups. It is called diversity and is generally very beneficial for a country. It has been for the Netherlands for the past 400 years.
You are missing the point. They were discussing the legal feasibility of an emergency law. This requires (surprise) an emergency. FYI: Laws are something grownups have to deal with in a state.
@@ronaldderooij1774yeah im Sure the dutch Loved being under spanish, french and German rule
@@ronaldderooij1774 diversity means some groups integrate more than others? Not a good point. As for the last 400 years, integrating someone from a few kilometres over the border is far different than someone from the Congo, for example. Just walk down a Dutch street and see who is crossing without waiting for a light change, throwing garbage etc. Who needs it?
@@ronaldderooij1774 "integrate more than other groups" there's literally certain east african groups (somali's) which are still on average 40% of them leeching off social securities after 10 years. Throw them out.
Close the bordersssss
We (The Netherlands) are supersaturated with asylum seekers and that is something the Dutch government should determine, not Brussels! We insist that this policy is executed or we should demand to leave the EU. It is incomprehensible that the Europeans have been submitting to the whims of Brussels for so long! These simpleton bureaucrats under influence of Germany and France communists have been destroying this most beautiful continent for decades. Time for a complete change.
@@profiler4772 my brother in christ all of these countries have been led by center-right governments for a decade. This is simply more evidence that the right can't govern.
Okay Ivan.
Is this a standard Russian Troll post where you fill in the blanks with different countries... We (The Danish) ... and then change Dutch for Sweden... etc etc ;)
Careful three russian Bots here
@@NicolasHaufe Exactly, profiler is right. The three trolls above are creating confusion.
I hope that all EU countries follow suite.
DW is making as if this action by the Dutch government is a bad thing.
as the dutch governement is a bad and empty thing
Bypassing all other parties people have voted for by calling on an emergency law, while many agree this is not an actual "crisis"? Yeah, it's a bad thing. Many people feel betrayed. Besides, it will hardly solve anything. We had a solution for this, but it was rejected over and over for unclear reasons, it was called the "spreidingswet". Right-wing populist parties just took advantage of a huge mismanagement of the asylum seeker influx, and did not even *want* a proper solution because that would mean they'd no longer be able to push their agenda.
I'm an immigrant in the netherlands but got my visit from my work and married a dutch man. The housing crisis is a huge problem. We are both working and can't find a house , daycare for our son etc. The country is small and densely populated. Full=full
It amazes me that all the legacy media outlets peddle the same nonsense and labeling everything not left as “far right.” Of COURSE it’s a major issue of concern for the Dutch!
The media really is abhorrent
Exactly. It seems very extremist to me that we are expected to just give up our country, our society and our culture in order to make space for everybody else, because this is literally what is happening.
Correct - there is very little right in the Dutch government, its More like Stalinism - this historic cuts in education and culture, this historic increase in vat taxes, and no benefits for normal people- but a sanctification of domestic farmers and workers. Nothing right about that, its Purest Stalinism
I am Dutch. The government isn’t nationalist. That’s really incorrect. 😢 There is a nationalist party in the government. The PVV. In our system political party’s need to work together. That means they all have to compromise. We have four political party’s now in the government. It’s a more right agenda now but definitely not far right.
Well Deutche Welle is afraid of something
PVV is right wing populist, and the largest party. BBB is also right wing populist. VVD and NSC are more traditional right wing parties. So overall, the government is half nationalist right, half traditional right.
@@Ikbeneengeit actually they were not right winged this time 😂 they were actually centre party just concervative. VVD was more right winged but Progressive so you are spreading misinformation. Lots of people are confused about this, but I checked this before I went voting.
We can’t even house our own people.. you end up on a waiting list for literally a decade or you need to be rich to, on average, you can add your own money 150k euro on top of a mortgage..
It’s a crisis.
The housing crisis in the Netherlands exists since 1945.
@@dweb no.
Yeh right after ww2, sure, but no.
If you really want to say now, that on average you couldn’t really get a house before you are 30 since basically the 50’s, you are either lying or not Dutch.
@@DikkieDikism So why are so many Dutch ppl, living in the border regions in Belgium? Maybe because in Belgium the government allows its people to build houses? Its not a problem to knock down a single house and put an appartment block. It might not look pretty but the ppl have houses.
I don't think that Geert Wilders is FAR-right, and i think this reform is good for all people who live in The Nederlands, an adult child should not be granted asylum in the name of "Family reunion"
Bad news for asylum seekers, the preferential treatment of status holders in the allocation of social housing is going to disappear. Without preferential treatment, count on 10 - 15 years of waiting time. You can of course buy something (count on minimal 350,000 euros) but then you also need to earn a lot, E.g. if you have a doctor's or engineer's degree and can work as a medical doctor or engineer.
I am all for migration as long as it is the right ones that come.
Migration from Africa and the Middle-East are of catastrophic results.
The Dutch Government had to react to avoid results that would be even worse.
An asylum-policy like in Germany is national suicide. They have done too little much too late.
It depends which ones out of these places.
The “right ones “ you refer are not interested in the Netherlands. The pie is all sliced up so you offer low pay and no housing plus some taxes
Well done Dutch Europeans.
No, nothing will change
These laws are common sense and normal for any country except Europe and the West...weird eh.
Not in Iran or Russia either.
The reason for this is not racism or islamofobie. Netherlands has a housing crisis. Every year more then 50.000 people come in the country. And there is a lack of 400.000 houses allready.
Why can’t the Dutch build housing for everyone. You have free education free healthcare and now create some free housing
Around 40.000 asylum seekers ... and the rest of the family is yet to follow ...
Asylum should be for our next door neighbors in case of war, a huge catastrophe or something similar but always temporarily. No asylum for those who travel half the world looking for fortune, they have a neighboring country as well where they can be save when there is the need to. There's no room for freeloaders.
And sometimes you just have to fight for a better future, as almost all European peoples did. Therefor the Ukrainian people have earned my respect and support where the Afghan people e.g. did not, they choose to surrender to the Taliban. According to my book they have to either accept the consequences of their choises or fight. Running away is no free pass to get asylum in the Netherlands. My ancestors and me myself too worked hard enough to improve life. We did so for our own families and the Dutch people, not for some uninvited, permanent staying cuckoo chicks.
I 100% agree
@@yunusgokcen174 Thank you!
very well spoken
@@framek5736 I don't agree about the Ukraine comment tho. Ukranians should demand peace, not sheepishly obey their government.
@@yunusgokcen174 Would you surrender and give up a peace of your country when invaded with such brutality and resulting deaths?
Why would you interview a Guardian reporter? The Guardian is a far left publication with a well established far left bias.
The asylum crisis is artifical constructed by the far right PVV and 35 years of neglecting to build houses by the capitalistic governements which left this issue to the so called free market.
And what exactly did he say that is seen as far left?
Except you know why…
So is DW, that's probably why.
Far LEFT ????😀🤣😂
Better late than never.
Asiel is only 11% of immigrants. The extreme right has a minister of deportation. It's sad and not what normal Dutch citizens want.
The housing problem is caused by people who want to make too much money on overpriced houses. Affordable housing is just not interesting for contractors.
as a well nformend and well education incan state that his is notb correct. leftist talk and luckily theybare a minority
If that were true than the houses were empty and the owners would decrease the rent
The housing problem is real, its not even the illegals who are making it worse, its also the international students from israel, and america who are making it hard
"Adult children ".....Orwellian..
Yes. You know.. as a parent, eventually your children grow up and become adults, but they never stop being your children. That's how the english language works.
The largest issue here is the housing, not the immegrants themselves. Most, by far the lion's share, are decent people, wanting to work and participate in Dutch cultures and traditions. But those who aren't allowed (socially, economically, bureaucratically) to integrate are causing issues, that populists use to distract of the larger problems facing this country.
It is still insane to me that migration was the largest talking point during the lastest elections, while our government systems are crumbling after decades of going (economically) too hard neoliberal and the mismanagement that resulted from Rutte.
What many do say, is, no-one isn't against immigration or asylum seekers, what they are against is mass migration and asylum seekers especially at the numbers it is standing at year on year.
never joined EU to be invaded.......close the borders
18/09/2024
Well done Netherlands 🎉
thats the way Bravo Holland , greetings from Poland
Ireland 🇮🇪 needs to wake up
Continent has had enough of prayer rug afficionados. Better late than never, surely.
Let’s see how the declining population in the EU copes with this
Well done Holland! Congratulations to all those Dutch people who voted for Geert Wilders!
Go Netherlands!
The politicians finally waking up. As an EU citizen, I don’t understand why we have to sponsor endless stream of young men from Middle East and Africa.
To be honest I'm disappointed in interviewing someone from The Guardian, which has a reputation as a deeply questionable source that twists narratives and sometimes outright makes them up.
Says who? It has excellent statutes, guaranteeing independence and not profit driven. In research polls they are very highly regarded by the public.
When Edward Snowden needed journalists whom he could trust, where did he turn to? Exactly.
So I ask you once more, based on what facts/sources/research do you think the Guardian is questionable?
@@Maceman1990
Says everybody serious. Say all the actual journalists.
Remember 2014 when the Guardian told us all gamers hate women, and the gamers had hired snipers to kill the feminists so only absolute loyalty to 3rd wave feminism could save teh womenz?
Yeah even the questionable women who lead that movement dropped that act, most became normal.
The Guardian is the only one who still stands by that false narrative.
@@Maceman1990Snowden was before nearly all msm and governments got compromised by the same insanity.
It's just the leftist version of the Daily mail and not much more. It seems most or maybe even ALL of the British media are gutter press really.
40.000 asylum seekers each year? It's 400.000 per year!!! Greetings from Hollandstan
Nop: 2023: 38.000 people were seeking asylum, the rest are immigrants for other reasons. Know your numbers!
The EU is not obliged to take in asylum seekers at the expense of their own citizens.
This is what happens when your ancestors became wealthy on the backs of slavery and colonialism. Karma can’t be stopped….
If these countries also decide to stop waging and supporting wars and interfering with the internal affairs of other, less wealthy countries, it would be a better world.
Europe can stand together against illegal migration from outside
it would be wonderful
Including eastern europe ?😀
@solomonhaile4502 yes isn't eastern Europe a part of Europe?
@@solomonhaile4502 Which is in Europe.. how is that illegal?
Europe can take in more. Dutch just complain and cry. I
Wilders wanted to leave the EU as well. The PVV is not a party as it a business a la the Reform party in the UK. (Did you really think Farage would have an original thought?)
I live here and it's alarming to see how many children in some schools in early grades happen to be more from middle eastern ans north africans families...
It is understandable that the Netherlands is taking steps to regulate the influx of asylum seekers, especially given the pressure on housing, healthcare, bad intergration and education. The fact that the people, after 10 months of democratic process, have chosen this direction shows that there is broad support for stricter policies. Kudos to the government for listening to the concerns of the population and trying to find a solution that aligns with the democratic choices of the people.
Not an emergency and why have an EU when you can pick and choose what you do or don’t want. Immigrating can be wonderful embrace it.
The presenter asking what do the people think, well read the comments here. You could tell like 3 years ago already that people are fed up with the "cultural enrichment"
Exactly. It is unsustainable. The worst judgement call Angela Merkle ever made back in 2015. Be like Hungary and Poland. Take care of your citizens and preserve your culture.
Fantastic news ! Finally !
When will DW finally start serious investigative reporting? Asylum seekers are not the real problem but mass immigration for exploitation of cheap labor in branches, such as agriculture and meat processing.
Right: you are aware that the new dutch government is largely run by Dutch agriculture oligarchs? They create an asylum crisis to distract the people from what is really going pn: tell me- when a government is cutting spending on everything from education to health care, is increasing vat taxes, yet has a record government deficit: where is the money going? Exactly- in the pockets of agriculture oligarchs
They are just looking for a story 😂
Afterall it was predictable. You might be the kindest person y open your house to all the poor and in need but there will come a moment you will be sick and tired and will say “get out of my house” or “ I want my house back”. These European lows actually opened the boarders for everyone to come and demand money, education, health care, living facilities without giving anything back.
They should put immigration laws like Saudi Arabia .
Huge problem in the Netherlands
Have you got any idea about how these asylum seekers have been selected? They have mostly been pre-selected by Russia and Belarus, before they were allowed into our country's. Two pre-selectors with whom we are involved in a proxy war... Do you consider that normal or acceptable?
Sorry when did we have a vote on whether its ok for the entire world to come live in Europe outside of our regular visa applications?????
Would you tell that someone who actually fled from a war to their face?
When you voted for your government duh this is why people should start paying attention to the policies and not the persona
@@qRT-PCR BS. That wasn't in their manifesto.
@@lb9029 Go to another safe country nearby.
@@JaxonSmith-sg2rd like which country? Enlighten us
Is Islam a forbidden word?
When will Europe be willing to speak about it?
We must appreciate the policies of the countries like Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, etc. They don't have any crisis like this.
So when are you moving ? Oh wait you missed that they use slave labor for the world cup. Not hearing of something doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Have u been to those countries the freaking heat alone is reason enough to migrate
I don't appreciate being a dictatorship though
@@soundscape26do you appreciate lawlessness?
@@dannydxm So it's dictatorship or lawlessness? In fallacious terms that's a false dilemma.
*fast Netherlands🇳🇱 recognise Palestine country in UN. like Poland, Spain, Sweden recognise 2 country (Israel & Palestine).*
We do not care, first we should take care of our own people. Go ask your loving brothers and sisters in the Middle East.
talk fast and say absolutely nothing. very appropriate for a guardian employee.
Well done Netherlands!
The problem is that we've been lax when the economy was okay, but now it causes economic harm. We should stop all immigration and refocus on what's there now and redraw the lines on what's economic and what isn't. European laws aside, if Poland can choose than so can anyone else
*Netherlands🇳🇱 still occupied Aruba, Curaçao, Sint Maarten, Bonaire, Sint Eustatius, Saba.*
end occupation & keep peace!
those places voted to stay part of the Kingdom of The Netherlands.
they had a choice between several options, including full independence.
and 3 of them wanted to become nations but stay in the Kingdom and the other 3 wanted to become like mainland cities.
so they chose themselves to stay part of The Netherlands.
please learn history before making false claims and making a complete fool of yourself
Rich coming from Z😂
The Dutch don't want those areas, instead the people there want to remain occupied
@@spraakkanon 😀😀
@@solomonhaile4502 let's hear your opinion
The first guest speaks in a very biased way. Some neutrality would be nice. The second guest is plain wrong to claim that the Solingen incident lead to the success of the AfD in the subsequent elections. The success is based on politial developments since the 1990s.
The solution is simple: help these people's countries or stop destroying them. Therefore, people would not have to leave their home countries seeking better conditions. Take Iraq as an example.
You can feel that this will reverberate throughout europe. if one of the Founding members of the EU and a country known wide for its tolerance says: NO MORE. it is done
Whew, and one of the most difficult countries to get into too. Sucks.
Yes this is what we want
The EU bureaucrats in Brussels need to change the laws to take into account the unprecedented levels of asylum seekers entering Europe! The EU laws are far too rigid and far too irresponsible with taxpayers hard earned money. It’s just not fair that asylum seekers get benefits that the locals don’t get, like housing, healthcare and education. The asylum seekers are gaming the system just like here in the US. Just stop it.
The problem is the transitioning from temporary "shelters" or whatever you want to call it, which is generally not nice being with 7 people in one room, to regular housing. Mostly these are houses which residents wait for 10-15 years for to be able to enter, and have to pay for especially with today's prices. It's not fair if (illegal) immigrants get such houses without waiting and for free. Same problem in England I think. You can't just give people regular houses which are unaffordable for even double-mid incomes.
A moratorium sounds absolutely realistic and long overdue. It just makes sense if a parent is admitted that adult children are not part of reunification. It needs to end somewhere.
This guy doesnt give the right information. He does not know what he is talking about.
Assimilation or deportation no more separatist movements
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@@NicolasHaufethanks for your attention , ivan
@@PutinPuppet-z7w cant you read? My Name is Nicolas
@@PutinPuppet-z7w Stop spreading misinformation boris
The media. The #1 problem to address SHOULD be… NOT migration. Doesn’t even crack the top 3. But now everybody talks about the wrong topic, from Sweden to Italy, Germany to the Netherlands. The media!!!
Explain yourself ... is it the media that cause all these problems in western European countries?
Well done Netherlands politicians you protect your citizens and way of life. Unlike UK politicians doesn't know how to address the illegal migration issue so pathetic!
Should be open borders for all, just one caveat; must come with your own housing, doctors, dentists, self funded welfare system and large posted bond that is lost if any criminal charges are laid. No problem.
This is deliberate. There is a reason they're allowing this. Here in the US they allow this lunacy for votes.
Did you mess your Fox news today?
Asylum seekers can't vote
We went from a country with low crime and hardly any gun violence, to feeling like america light..
The new Dutch Government is 100% spot on! I wish they can carry on with this gigantic task!...