Yeah. I think this presentation suffers from the start from the reviewers personal biases. He clearly prefers the MSI long before he has got into any tests. Having said so it did make me realise I walked in to the review with my own personal biases and preferred the Asus but emerged from it realising that if you want the best it probably is the MSi and the MSi is probably better value even though it is more expensive. It's hard to ignore better gaming performance, more RAM, a better keyboard and a larger SSD. Seems like when it comes to silly mistakes though the MSi suffers from a less than excellent mouse pad, all for the sake of LED lighting which the reviewer says looks less professional.
I bought new scar 18 2024 4090 laptop in UK for £3300 and must say I will never get another IPS not mini led panel laptop. Screen black level and quality is just great especially in HDR mode is just perfect black level for me
I tried both. MSI is the better laptop both on paper and on hand. 4K 120hz miniLED, Gen 5 SSD compatibility, mechanical keyboard, full metal build, very comfortable trackpad and insane performance while also being quiet when doing work that doesn't require too much power (browsing, YT videos, Word document processing etc). The Scar has a lower resolution screen, membrane keyboard, the main body is plastic and the camera is only 720p (WTF Asus lol) but here it costs 600EUR less (same specs apart from 32GB RAM instead of 64GB on Titan). The only advantage of the Scar over the Titan is G-Sync, I don't understand why MSI didn't bother to put it on their top end display. However the problem is that most buyers of the Titan will probably use it at home only as a desktop replacement, so if you have the money for the Titan (4800EUR in Spain) you can build PC with 7950X3D/14900K and 4090 for around 4500EUR and spend the rest on a good 4K OLED display. If you replace 4090 with 4080 Super, you can build a setup with a 4K 240hz OLED monitor for just 200EUR more than the Titan which will be far better. This is the biggest problem with gaming laptops over 2000-2500EUR, if you have the money for a top end gaming laptop you can almost always use it to build a PC instead. I was considering the Titan for my studies but I bought ROG Flow X16 with 4070 and bought a used setup with desktop 4080 and 49" ultrawide monitor for 2500EUR, so I basically have a top end desktop setup for gaming and a great laptop for university + portable gaming for the same price as the top end Titan.
Hey dude. I want a laptop at my girlfriends house and one I can take to work. I already have an insane desktop with a I7 13000 cpu and a 4090 😊 Have you testet 1600p on the Titan. How does it look, compared to native 1600p. Can you share your experience on that 😊 I will play in 4k, when the laptop can handle it, but some games, I would like to play at 1600p in the future
I have the MSI Titan 18 and you're right about it being better but I can assure you my friend. Us that spends 5k on a laptop. We are not the people who need to choose between a high end desktop or laptop. We typically can afford both easily. No disrespect or nothing I'm just saying. This laptop isn't for people that think 5k is a lot of money.
@@RockyBalboaxxx Downscaled always looks worse than native unfortunately, I didn't try 1600p but I did try 1200p and it didn't look as good as native 1200p so I assume it will be the same. However this laptop can easily run most games at 4K (2400p) so you will have no problems there
@@MA-xb2yz It's a good laptop, the screen is beautiful (only on the 4070 model though), the touchscreen works well with a stylus and it performs great as well. For the price it's the best foldable you can buy
It's an absolute shame that companies like Alienware have turned a blind eye to Mini LED and/or OLED. We really need these displays to take us to the next gen!
Your reviews are wonderful, but you need to consider changing your performance graphs design. They are complicated to understand without pausing the video. Keep up the good work!
Great review, it does cover all the aspects I was hoping for, just grabbed my MSI Titan. I do personally believe its a beast of a laptop, way better built and what it lacks here and there, it can certainly make up for through the manual configs. Moreover, I believe its "more" future proof due to its built. I am not a big fan of plastic tbh, I 've had a laptop like that asus rog. Wobbly screens, hinges not completely tight, heat tends to stress those plastics especially at the points it connects w/ the screen, therefore, broken hinge and a ton of other problems, heat is an issue on all laptops, and plastic doesnt respond well, cycle after cycle of hot-cold, imho. That mat plastic attracts a shit ton of fingerprints, dust and it doesnt clean easily either if you 're fingers are sweaty / oily after spending a ton of hrs for work / gaming on it, its a mother load of pain.
I have both, the biggest problem with titan for me is 4k screen, it's overkill for a laptop especially for games. Some aaa titles are below 60fps. Not very future proof and when comparing side by side you can't even tell the difference. Also everyone forgets about Dolby vision support on scar Hell, cyberpunk 40 fps, hopefully they'll come up with 2k panel that's either miniled or oled
@@infinitetesla9202 lowering resolution will look terrible as it is no longer native for the panel, also there is weird flicker to msi especially in hdr mode. Msi would've been easy choice if it had asus panel
@@lifeguardkz thank you. I wanted the MSI since the reviews says it's better built but most of them day the performance is better with the Rog. Do you mind elaborating the reason for you to go with rog. 😬
pricing is INSANE on the MSI. it makes the Razer Blade 16 with OLED look cheap. There’s a model of the Asus on sale for $2200 with 4080 but no mini-LED at best buy. If you want one of these, that’s the way to go imo.
Definitely, even tho it does come with a few things that makes it unique (if still niche) The main appeal for those is the Mini-LED, though, and I assume it drives the price considerably. If you do not want the panel tech, there are many, much more affordable options out there!
There's been an ACER 4080 WITH Mini LED for the longest but at 2500 instead of 2200.. so $300 more to upgrade the 18" screen from IPS. This dumbass model "PH18-71-94F1" was originally priced at 2200 but magically "Out Of Stock" the entire time of its release until around December 15 when it arrived at my local BestBuy with the "promo price" already taken off.. We already need to fork over an extra $800 just to have a GPU that's ACTUALLY next gen AND can actually play AAA titles at ~60 FPS natively soooo this extra $300 hurdle from the ASUS ROG Strix 18" 4080 w/ 🇮🇵🇸 "G814JZ-G18.I94080" all the way to the ACER Predator Helios 18" 4080 w/ 🇲🇮🇳🇮 🇱🇪🇩 "PH18-71-94F1" is absolutely ✨️RIDICULOUS🎉
@@walidheraz3309Absolute not the clear winner..I had both for a week and a half. You knew the titan didn't have g sync. MSI never has and never will. Asus laptop gets unbelievably hot, plastic build, worst screen, lower fps, lower bench scores, worse keyboard, worse speakers, lower brightness, etc. I kept the titan. You probably can't even afford to test both yet you speak with no real world exp. Pathetic.
@@moecharms How do you know it gets hot? From every review I've seen it runs below 80c when gaming. Also how is it a worse screen? It's higher refresh rate, has G-sync, Advanced Optimus, and a MUX switch. At 18 inches you aren't going to notice the difference between 4k and 1600p. The things the MSI has over Asus is the port layout, one extra slot for storage, and ram configurations.
MSI Titan is a beast, but for an ASUS ROG Scar price tag, you can still buy another 2 budget option gaming laptops for match up a same price as MSI Titan
Hey Notebookcheck! I have a request. I would really appreciate it if you guys could compare the new Alienware M18 R2 (RTX 4090 version) with the ASUS Scar 18 2024 (RTX 4090 version). And this comparison between these two juggernauts was great as well but if you can, please include thermal performance as well next time. Also, it is not clear if you're using the most powerful performance profile of each respective laptop (in the ASUS's case atleast, it is said to be the "manual" mode with all the sliders set to max).
I got the scar 18 2024 (rtx 4080) a week ago. I upgraded from a gtx 760 desktop so its just a beautiful and godly laptop to me. Also, the asus rog bp4701 fits the scar 18 perfectly so a pretty cheap backpack for that size!
Hey, how has your experience with scar 18., I been planning to buy G18 (Rex 4080) for my professional graphic rendering and gaming use. My previous setup was rog Hero series, used it for 5 years and it has been amazing. Hands down. I ended up with motherboard issue and multiple other issues, but the main problem is, i tasted ROG ones, its very hard to choose other brands. Idk why
I've been patiently waiting to see what rumoured 7945hx3d 18 inchers will be like and also the 2024 razer blade 18. Losing hope with razer as it will probably be limited due to thermals again and the amd variants are taking ages for any info.
Nice review sir I'm planning to buy this last quarter of 2024. In your own opinion sir what do you want to choose regardless the price? Thank you so much!
What a bargain! You can buy the 2023 models + 1200€ external 21:9 screen and save also some money. High-end laptop gaming pricing in EU is definitely out of control LOL
Can you compare the acer predator helios 18 2024 against the asus rog strix scar 18 2024. I want to buy one. If you could tell me which one will be overall better then it will be helpful
Love an honest review !! Everyone crying about the scar 18 is just crap , I bought all 4 labtops last month , scar 18 2024 , blade 16 oled , legion 9i , all don’t even come close to the titan . I’m sorry if 5k is out of your budget then don’t be saying anything that you don’t know . I love this channel and he was honest . Msi fyi don’t pay reviewers to review their product because they know what their titan is . As far as asus , quality garbage control and don’t forget it’s all made of plastic . Great review man keep it up !!
I’m having trouble with changing the rgb in the scar right now. It just won’t change. I don’t know if I’m doing something wrong. But the rgb isn’t changing just staying the same when I change settings. I’ve always hated asus lighting or software it freezes and doesn’t work and bricked a router.
I bought recently the scar 18, by the way it comes in two variants, 32GB/2TB and 64GB/4TB. I wanted the Titan, however, the decision was mainly because of support, which is where am living, MSI is not good, while Asus have a support centre in the city
@scorchingstarbhaskar7011 amazing, but if anyone says it's mobile, don't believe it, it's a heavy one, needs good cooling pad, and it's a full desktop replacement indeed
No matter what I feel a higher refresh will always be better with a laptop. Especially pairing a 4090 with a 120hz screen is dumb sure its 4k but 1440p is fine at that size no clue why manufactures do this smh.
You think this laptop will be good with streaming? I’m between the ASUS 18inch and a Alienware aurora R16 4080 desktop , I want to use it for streaming and gaming but not sure which one to pick , could y’all help me please or give me the best advice 🙏🏽
Nice review. I have a question though, you mentioned that the scar 18 supports 32gb of ram but it’s mentioned on Asus website that it can support up to 64gb of ram. Can you confirm this? Also what’s the speed? 5200 or 5600?
admite hasta 196Gb de Ram por su procesador i9 14900hx que las soporta. Aunque cuenta solo con dos slots de ram y ya por defecto tiene 32Gb ram DDR5 5600Mhz soldadas al chasis. Asi que de por si puedes ampliar hasta 96Gb de ram 5600, tomando en cuenta que las rams hasta el momento tienen una máxima de 64Gb si mal no estoy, 32 soldadas + 64Gb ram = 96GB. en mi opinion mas que suficientes para abrir infinidad de cosas. Y ademas el pc viene con una variante de 64GB ram y 4TB SSD de ultiam generación. pero esta version es bastante mas costosa
i hope amd gets x3d cpus along with actual igpu cores which can handle daily usage, and hopefully beat intel even in singlecore by increasing the performance, because amd 7945 has worse batterylife than even intel, so they can afford to suck more power in the absolute high end chips
@@techstation365 well the 7945 just has 2 graphics cores, so the laptop has to rely on the dgpu for graphics rendering. If amd raises clockspeeds, gives it more power limit, and increases gpu cores from 2 to 12, it would be perfect. Basically matching the i914900hx single core (its already faster on the multicore, and getting more igpu cores so its better on battery to)
I disagree; yes, when it comes to performance, it is a few percentage points faster, but good luck finding it anywhere, and it's using a plastic chassis from a few years ago. Performance is not everything ;)
At 1080p games yes because 1080p games are cpu bound. When you get to qhd/1440p/2k it's pretty much the same. In 4k it's all the same because the higher resolution you go the more gpu bound you become.
Im sticking with my alienware m18 r2 for now , even though these have better screens now, I know for sure alienware next gen laptops will beat the market no sweat.
MSI made a mistake putting the power on the back of mine because I use it like a laptop, and they bent the female plug for the power, so I have loose power cords now. I got the Asus, and the MSI got a bigger keyboard, which I appreciated; the Asus keyboard was small and hard to type on.
let’s be real here: anything less than an oled for prices above the 2500 mark is no longer up to date. Oleds simply do not cost that much in terms of production any more and the fact that we as customers are still paying extra for them is just due to marketing.
I would NOT get an oled. As Alex said, some people prefer mini-LED. For me, the most important is the brightness. And as far as I know there is no laptop oled with 600-800 nits.
The review for the M18 was not quite ready at the time of filming this one. But we just got a sample for the 2024 M18, so it will get a seperate video soon!
The MSI is tempting... But damn, that mechanical key board. I know I am an exeption, but I avoid these ear-breaking monster at all cost. Plus they won't even use "silent" switches... Add in the battery life, and if I finally decide to surclass my traditional 17" for a 18", Asus win easily. If I buy a laptop, it's to take advantage of the battery, not leave it to sit on a desk.
The better mousepad and screen is a swinger for the Scar. It's annoying that the MSI seems to check every box except those two, because they are important. I use the mousepad and screen for most of what I do.
I'm curious about the 120hz display on the Titan. I've seen some comments saying "For this price it should be 240hz." Is there something I'm missing? Why wouldn't they go that route especially if the last model was a 144hz mini-LED display?
You have to understand that manufacturers are dependent on what is available from display suppliers. Even a company like MSI can probably not ask somebody to make a 4k 18" 240 Hz Mini-LED display for us.
@@NotebookcheckReviews wasn't so much talking about a 4k 18" 240hz display, i meant the benefits of their 4k 120hz vs the 240hz. I play fighting games and shooters mostly but i really wanted the TItan. Ended up getting a Rog Scar because I couldn't find any detailed reviews on how their display would've fared for those types of games. I know for adventure-style and RPG games it'd look amazing, though.
@@NotebookcheckReviews Good point. Though with temps approaching 100C, I am not sure how long it will go where you need the extra performance, before it throttles down. Perhaps not during gaming, but for anything that will keep pushing that CPU...plus this is a brand new laptop with brand new thermal paste (or whatever they use) and no dust or other debris in the fans etc. It doesn't look good in the long run. To me anyway.
Titan 18 hands down. The scar 18 looks extremely cheap. I can’t go without that cherryMX keyboard as well. I tried both out and definitely keeping the Titan 18.
I also really enjoyed the TITAN its just so over the top and ridiculous, but in a very practical way ... if that makes sense ;) May I ask what you use it for?
@@NotebookcheckReviews mainly for gaming, a little for work. I love gaming laptops (first gaming laptop was the Alienware M9700, back when Alienware was a shop in Florida), but most today are built cheap. I love large DTR laptops, and miss the days of the GT80 Titan, Alienware 51m, etc. The titan 18 is the only large 18 inch Laptop with amazing build quality and performance right now. Plus I have too much disposable income and don’t mind the outrageous price. The scar looks like a late 90s early 2000s toy with that clear plastic, lol.
Both laptops are overpriced for different reasons. Teardowns of the Scar 18 show that it could be significantly improved not only in build quality, but with a bigger battery, better speakers and perhaps 4 RAM slots. The Titan at $1,500 more should have better speakers, a much better webcam, and provide a flawless experience. Let's hope as Intel improves efficiency, we'll see more laptops like the Zephyrus G16 but with great gaming performance.
I still don't understand why they even started putting webcams in these laptops. I guess because people were complaining. Completely unnecessary. You can get a logitech webcam that has infinitely better quality for pretty cheap. Just taking up screen space for no reason. Objectively speaking most people do not use their webcams. Bigger battery? it's already essentially at the legal limit for what is allowed on planes. 99.99 is the closest you can get because you legally cannot have 100wh batteries in a laptop. That's just a dumb argument honestly. I will admit to the better speakers, but beyond that the titan is pretty appropriately priced, but more of a problem of poor marketing. The titan is as close to a medium between a content creation and gaming laptop as you can get. It's basically an 18 inch macbook pro with a 4090. When you consider how expensive getting the same specs from both pc and mac would be the titan is pretty appropriately priced if not cheaper.
I don't understand these companies... people end up shelling out 5 to 6 THOUSAND dollars/euros and they have some bullshitg potato webcam on these? Like what the hell is wrong with Asus and MSI here? At these price points this is completely unacceptasble. There is no excuse too
I bought Scar 2 in 2018 and used the shit out of it, poor thing's old and underperforming in almost every aspect now. Time to upgrade but there's so many options and all of them comes with pros and cons, so hard to decide. Thinking of Scar 18, but saw some videos where Scar 17 had better performance. Thought of Zephyrus G16 but apparently it's not 'that' good for gaming. Haven't considered other brands cause been a rog fanboi for some reason. HELP
Have you considered the Scar16? I have been daily driving the top-end SKU for a while now, and I actually like it a lot (apart form the design. ;)) But I am also working on a high-end gaming laptop round-up, which should be done soon. That one might be interesting for you!
Dude its so frustrating no laptop can fully win me. I need machanical switches a good cooling but also the sound from a g 16 and its microphone. But the g16 hase neiter a good wifi card mechanical switches nor a numpad.
I cannot understand the infinite contrast you reported for titan. It doesn't make sense for a miniled panel to have oled quality. By the way could you please compare scar 16 and zephyrus g16 displays?
@@NotebookcheckReviews Thants a shame because the only ones 18 inches who have a good performance/price are asus scar 18 and alienware m18.. hope to see the review to choose
That is my biggest gripe with the Strix Line-Up. They are awesome machines, but the chassis ... :/ The Alienware is much better made, but seriously lacks in the screen department, compared to the Scars with their Mini-LEDs ... Have you seen our M18 review? ruclips.net/video/sjvHGhB409M/видео.html
If you solely look at CPU performance, then yes. But good luck getting one, and you will get the same not quite up-to-snuff chassis and general build quality "issues" as with the scar 18
Why are MSI and Asus putting the 14th Gen Intel CPU's that ARE similarly affected with the problems the desktop versions are (same die, users are finding they are running st 1.6v factory bios!!!) In these flagships? Ryzen 9 processors are faster, require less power and produce less heat. I will wait until these flagships are offered with Ryzen processors.
I do not think that AMD can meet the demand that major OEMs have for their notebook line ups. And Ryzen HX runs hotter than Intel despite the lower Wattage, which completely offsets the efficiency advantage and battery life is for the most part even worse. But apparently their will be a MSI Raider 18 HX with a Ryzen X3D, and I'm trying to get my hands on that one...
They’re both great laptops especially the Titan 18 HX it’s legendary. 192 GB of portable DDR5 is INSANE BEAST mode for a laptop! Yet the 2024 Razer Blade 18 is far better, 98 GB DDR5,Thunderbolt 5 (easily drives 3 4K displays, or two 8K displays at 60 HZ at the same time!) better battery life, same performance, same 14900HX as the MSI Titan 18 HX and the ROG STRIX SCAR 18 and the Razer Blade 18 has a 200 Hz 4K OLED/ or selectable 1440p 300 HZ display!
All of these laptops have about the same performance in 4k resolutions. In 1080p the strix scar 18 and especially 17 with the ryzen 3d chip is gapping the intel chips. Razer blade laptops are reglarly the worst performing laptops every year though so that's not really true. They also are notorious for having thermal throttling problems due to the aluminum chasis while also having poor air intake compared to the competition. Asus laptops run the coolest of all of them, but they're purely gaming laptops. The msi titan and razer blades are more a medium for content creation and gaming.
Edit : Okay i get it , there seems to be quite a few use cases for these huge laptops, was interesting to ready eachother's perspectives. who's buying these giants lol ? I can't imagine carrying anything bigger than 16" as a portable workstation. Not to mention they don't even get the basic essentials of a laptop right.
desktop replacement category fr. Many people want the absolote max performance while being portable, batery=UPS for them. I got a 17.3'' rn, i would love to get the 18 because i like bigger laptops. I dont really travel much with it, but it would be interesting to see it in the future how things play out. +in future i got plans of getting a ultrabook+ a desktop if things work but yeah
Me! I am a gaming player but i work traveling! I don't have a place to have a desktop so never judge. Every person live their life very different from others. And every gamer wants a big screen. doesnt matter if is not good to travel
Its just pathetic that even after paying 4k on top end gaming laptop by asus you have to deal with ugly plasticky bits, flimsy build quality, 720p potato webcams and poor port selection. A few extra mm thickness or few gram extra weight doesn't matter to people who are buying 18 inch laptops, but they will keep listening to their MBA bro consultants who have never used anything other than a Macbook in their lives. And did they really kill the RGB light bar to just add those neon blue plastic stripes on Titan? They should just make it have a clean look if the 'gaming aesthetic' is too scary for them suddenly. Just focus on the actual consumerbase instead to trying to woo starbucks hippies, there are plenty of generic plain laptops out there.
Asus shouldn't be compared to the MSI. Its marginally worse and not even the same league. Even with the same specs it performs worse in cooling, gaming, benchmarks WITH THE SAME SPECS. Only thing this year that will be able to compare to MSI is the Razer 18. Should've just reviewed the MSI by itself and yes i have it.
Everything you said will probably hold true for the Razer as well. It will be slower, and the screen will not be a Mini-LED, etc. And if you do not care about the comparison, you still get all the info about the MSI or the ROG, do you not? ;) How do you like the MSI? May I ask what you do with it?
@@NotebookcheckReviews Well I heard razor is upping tdp and a new cooling process so I guess we will find out. This may sound ridiculous to you but I am a stock investor. I mainly use it along side a tablet to invest. I love media consumption on it. I play games like Minecraft on it mostly but also played cyberpunk so sometimes I'll play a triple a game if it seems cool but very rare. I do plan to invent stuff so I definitely will be using this or whichever the newest one in the future is for 3d rendering ideas I have for invention as well. Overkill? Probably so, but everyone financial situations are different so for me and my situation this isn't considered a big purchase for me. I love it. I may don't put it to it's full use but I wanted a 18 inch mini led laptop with a mechanical keyboard that could do it all if I ever do need it to. Oh and it's also a tax write off for me lol. Since 100 percent of my work is done on it and I believe the minimum is 50 percent
Neither is worth the price. Since we never got ti GPUs versions, people are paying premium prices for 1 year old chips. CPUs are insignificant in the performance arena, because you could get a laptop I3 and still play AAA on ultra with a 4090. Worst model year since 2018
i think the scar 18 looks absolutely gorgeous myself
Yeah. I think this presentation suffers from the start from the reviewers personal biases. He clearly prefers the MSI long before he has got into any tests. Having said so it did make me realise I walked in to the review with my own personal biases and preferred the Asus but emerged from it realising that if you want the best it probably is the MSi and the MSi is probably better value even though it is more expensive. It's hard to ignore better gaming performance, more RAM, a better keyboard and a larger SSD.
Seems like when it comes to silly mistakes though the MSi suffers from a less than excellent mouse pad, all for the sake of LED lighting which the reviewer says looks less professional.
Yea, I like how the Scar 18 looks, but the MSI Titan is a better choice. Even the Raider 18HX is a better choice over the Titan 18HX
I bought new scar 18 2024 4090 laptop in UK for £3300 and must say I will never get another IPS not mini led panel laptop. Screen black level and quality is just great especially in HDR mode is just perfect black level for me
"I bought new scar 18 2024 4090 laptop in UK for £3300"
Where?
also interested. can I have the address? 😁
I'd like to know where you got it too.
I tried both. MSI is the better laptop both on paper and on hand. 4K 120hz miniLED, Gen 5 SSD compatibility, mechanical keyboard, full metal build, very comfortable trackpad and insane performance while also being quiet when doing work that doesn't require too much power (browsing, YT videos, Word document processing etc). The Scar has a lower resolution screen, membrane keyboard, the main body is plastic and the camera is only 720p (WTF Asus lol) but here it costs 600EUR less (same specs apart from 32GB RAM instead of 64GB on Titan). The only advantage of the Scar over the Titan is G-Sync, I don't understand why MSI didn't bother to put it on their top end display.
However the problem is that most buyers of the Titan will probably use it at home only as a desktop replacement, so if you have the money for the Titan (4800EUR in Spain) you can build PC with 7950X3D/14900K and 4090 for around 4500EUR and spend the rest on a good 4K OLED display. If you replace 4090 with 4080 Super, you can build a setup with a 4K 240hz OLED monitor for just 200EUR more than the Titan which will be far better. This is the biggest problem with gaming laptops over 2000-2500EUR, if you have the money for a top end gaming laptop you can almost always use it to build a PC instead. I was considering the Titan for my studies but I bought ROG Flow X16 with 4070 and bought a used setup with desktop 4080 and 49" ultrawide monitor for 2500EUR, so I basically have a top end desktop setup for gaming and a great laptop for university + portable gaming for the same price as the top end Titan.
Hey dude. I want a laptop at my girlfriends house and one I can take to work. I already have an insane desktop with a I7 13000 cpu and a 4090 😊
Have you testet 1600p on the Titan. How does it look, compared to native 1600p. Can you share your experience on that 😊
I will play in 4k, when the laptop can handle it, but some games, I would like to play at 1600p in the future
How's the x16 working out for you? I've been thinking of getting it for drawing.
I have the MSI Titan 18 and you're right about it being better but I can assure you my friend. Us that spends 5k on a laptop. We are not the people who need to choose between a high end desktop or laptop. We typically can afford both easily. No disrespect or nothing I'm just saying. This laptop isn't for people that think 5k is a lot of money.
@@RockyBalboaxxx Downscaled always looks worse than native unfortunately, I didn't try 1600p but I did try 1200p and it didn't look as good as native 1200p so I assume it will be the same. However this laptop can easily run most games at 4K (2400p) so you will have no problems there
@@MA-xb2yz It's a good laptop, the screen is beautiful (only on the 4070 model though), the touchscreen works well with a stylus and it performs great as well. For the price it's the best foldable you can buy
120hz is a deal breaker since I only play FPS games, therefore going with Asus. You should review the 2024 Helios 18 when it comes out!
It's an absolute shame that companies like Alienware have turned a blind eye to Mini LED and/or OLED. We really need these displays to take us to the next gen!
Your reviews are wonderful, but you need to consider changing your performance graphs design. They are complicated to understand without pausing the video. Keep up the good work!
Brilliant review, any links for the scar's wallpaper?
Thanks for review guys.
Sure thing!
i don't know why these big machines don't provide good speakers and webcams
Which would you recommend between the scar g18 vs legion 9i both 4090?
Legion ANY DAY!
The MSI doesn't have G-sync. The Asus has G-sync, Advanced Optimus and a MUX switch.
Very true!
Asus doesn't even have a fingerprint reader nor windows hello, I think
That's really unfair if I'm going to be spending that much
Great review, it does cover all the aspects I was hoping for, just grabbed my MSI Titan. I do personally believe its a beast of a laptop, way better built and what it lacks here and there, it can certainly make up for through the manual configs. Moreover, I believe its "more" future proof due to its built. I am not a big fan of plastic tbh, I 've had a laptop like that asus rog. Wobbly screens, hinges not completely tight, heat tends to stress those plastics especially at the points it connects w/ the screen, therefore, broken hinge and a ton of other problems, heat is an issue on all laptops, and plastic doesnt respond well, cycle after cycle of hot-cold, imho. That mat plastic attracts a shit ton of fingerprints, dust and it doesnt clean easily either if you 're fingers are sweaty / oily after spending a ton of hrs for work / gaming on it, its a mother load of pain.
Awesome, congrats to your Titan!
May I ask how you use it?
HAY!!! You can disable the status LEDs in the lighting settings on the Scar 18!!
I have both, the biggest problem with titan for me is 4k screen, it's overkill for a laptop especially for games. Some aaa titles are below 60fps. Not very future proof and when comparing side by side you can't even tell the difference. Also everyone forgets about Dolby vision support on scar
Hell, cyberpunk 40 fps, hopefully they'll come up with 2k panel that's either miniled or oled
You can lower the resolution in in-game settings to 2K. Though other than that is there anything you find in each better than the other?
@@infinitetesla9202 lowering resolution will look terrible as it is no longer native for the panel, also there is weird flicker to msi especially in hdr mode. Msi would've been easy choice if it had asus panel
Hello if money is not an issue which one would you choose the MSI or the ROG?
@@LetMeCookDota rog, all day
@@lifeguardkz thank you. I wanted the MSI since the reviews says it's better built but most of them day the performance is better with the Rog. Do you mind elaborating the reason for you to go with rog. 😬
You should review the MSI Raider 18HX, that's like the budget version of the Titan 18HX but almost the same laptop.
pricing is INSANE on the MSI. it makes the Razer Blade 16 with OLED look cheap. There’s a model of the Asus on sale for $2200 with 4080 but no mini-LED at best buy. If you want one of these, that’s the way to go imo.
Definitely, even tho it does come with a few things that makes it unique (if still niche)
The main appeal for those is the Mini-LED, though, and I assume it drives the price considerably. If you do not want the panel tech, there are many, much more affordable options out there!
There's been an ACER 4080 WITH Mini LED for the longest but at 2500 instead of 2200.. so $300 more to upgrade the 18" screen from IPS. This dumbass model "PH18-71-94F1" was originally priced at 2200 but magically "Out Of Stock" the entire time of its release until around December 15 when it arrived at my local BestBuy with the "promo price" already taken off..
We already need to fork over an extra $800 just to have a GPU that's ACTUALLY next gen AND can actually play AAA titles at ~60 FPS natively soooo this extra $300 hurdle from the ASUS ROG Strix 18" 4080 w/ 🇮🇵🇸 "G814JZ-G18.I94080" all the way to the ACER Predator Helios 18" 4080 w/ 🇲🇮🇳🇮 🇱🇪🇩 "PH18-71-94F1" is absolutely ✨️RIDICULOUS🎉
Here in Spain the MSI costs less than the Blade 16 OLED and has twice the RAM.
Does the MSI TITAN's screen support NVIDIA G-SYNC ?
Unfortunately it does not!
@@NotebookcheckReviewsclear winner for the rog strix 18 then
@@walidheraz3309Absolute not the clear winner..I had both for a week and a half. You knew the titan didn't have g sync. MSI never has and never will. Asus laptop gets unbelievably hot, plastic build, worst screen, lower fps, lower bench scores, worse keyboard, worse speakers, lower brightness, etc. I kept the titan. You probably can't even afford to test both yet you speak with no real world exp. Pathetic.
@@moecharms How do you know it gets hot? From every review I've seen it runs below 80c when gaming. Also how is it a worse screen? It's higher refresh rate, has G-sync, Advanced Optimus, and a MUX switch. At 18 inches you aren't going to notice the difference between 4k and 1600p. The things the MSI has over Asus is the port layout, one extra slot for storage, and ram configurations.
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What about the new Scar 16?!
Super nice video! :-)
MSI Titan is a beast, but for an ASUS ROG Scar price tag, you can still buy another 2 budget option gaming laptops for match up a same price as MSI Titan
Does Asus no longer have a backpack? There was one last year. The 18-inch notebook fits in there perfectly.
The one thing I don't understand is how he writes-off the webcam on the Scar but, to me, the image from the Scar looks far better.
Titan literally takes everything even the keyboard that was the strong point of Scar
Hey Notebookcheck!
I have a request.
I would really appreciate it if you guys could compare the new Alienware M18 R2 (RTX 4090 version) with the ASUS Scar 18 2024 (RTX 4090 version).
And this comparison between these two juggernauts was great as well but if you can, please include thermal performance as well next time.
Also, it is not clear if you're using the most powerful performance profile of each respective laptop (in the ASUS's case atleast, it is said to be the "manual" mode with all the sliders set to max).
I got the scar 18 2024 (rtx 4080) a week ago. I upgraded from a gtx 760 desktop so its just a beautiful and godly laptop to me.
Also, the asus rog bp4701 fits the scar 18 perfectly so a pretty cheap backpack for that size!
Congrats, thanks for the info about the backpack, I'll check it out!
Hey, how has your experience with scar 18., I been planning to buy G18 (Rex 4080) for my professional graphic rendering and gaming use. My previous setup was rog Hero series, used it for 5 years and it has been amazing. Hands down.
I ended up with motherboard issue and multiple other issues, but the main problem is, i tasted ROG ones, its very hard to choose other brands. Idk why
I've been patiently waiting to see what rumoured 7945hx3d 18 inchers will be like and also the 2024 razer blade 18. Losing hope with razer as it will probably be limited due to thermals again and the amd variants are taking ages for any info.
Nice review sir I'm planning to buy this last quarter of 2024. In your own opinion sir what do you want to choose regardless the price? Thank you so much!
What a bargain! You can buy the 2023 models + 1200€ external 21:9 screen and save also some money.
High-end laptop gaming pricing in EU is definitely out of control LOL
Can you compare the acer predator helios 18 2024 against the asus rog strix scar 18 2024. I want to buy one. If you could tell me which one will be overall better then it will be helpful
Idk if you've made a purchase yet but be aware that the Predator Helios is infamous for their thermal problems.
Love an honest review !! Everyone crying about the scar 18 is just crap , I bought all 4 labtops last month , scar 18 2024 , blade 16 oled , legion 9i , all don’t even come close to the titan . I’m sorry if 5k is out of your budget then don’t be saying anything that you don’t know . I love this channel and he was honest . Msi fyi don’t pay reviewers to review their product because they know what their titan is . As far as asus , quality garbage control and don’t forget it’s all made of plastic . Great review man keep it up !!
Is Scar 18 good or no?
I’m having trouble with changing the rgb in the scar right now. It just won’t change. I don’t know if I’m doing something wrong. But the rgb isn’t changing just staying the same when I change settings. I’ve always hated asus lighting or software it freezes and doesn’t work and bricked a router.
I bought recently the scar 18, by the way it comes in two variants, 32GB/2TB and 64GB/4TB.
I wanted the Titan, however, the decision was mainly because of support, which is where am living, MSI is not good, while Asus have a support centre in the city
How is it working?
@scorchingstarbhaskar7011 amazing, but if anyone says it's mobile, don't believe it, it's a heavy one, needs good cooling pad, and it's a full desktop replacement indeed
@@nadershalabi6241 oh mobility is not an issue at all. I only need performance :)
Thank you for the help🙏🏼
No matter what I feel a higher refresh will always be better with a laptop. Especially pairing a 4090 with a 120hz screen is dumb sure its 4k but 1440p is fine at that size no clue why manufactures do this smh.
You think this laptop will be good with streaming? I’m between the ASUS 18inch and a Alienware aurora R16 4080 desktop , I want to use it for streaming and gaming but not sure which one to pick , could y’all help me please or give me the best advice 🙏🏽
Desktop for more performance laptop if you want to take it around or dont have space for a computer
@@Antifurrygovernment-vv8lb thank you brotha! I went with the desktop 🔥🙌🏽
@@thirdeyedadd4203 np
Nice review. I have a question though, you mentioned that the scar 18 supports 32gb of ram but it’s mentioned on Asus website that it can support up to 64gb of ram. Can you confirm this? Also what’s the speed? 5200 or 5600?
Yes, it comes in two variants 64/4 and 32/2
admite hasta 196Gb de Ram por su procesador i9 14900hx que las soporta. Aunque cuenta solo con dos slots de ram y ya por defecto tiene 32Gb ram DDR5 5600Mhz soldadas al chasis. Asi que de por si puedes ampliar hasta 96Gb de ram 5600, tomando en cuenta que las rams hasta el momento tienen una máxima de 64Gb si mal no estoy, 32 soldadas + 64Gb ram = 96GB. en mi opinion mas que suficientes para abrir infinidad de cosas. Y ademas el pc viene con una variante de 64GB ram y 4TB SSD de ultiam generación. pero esta version es bastante mas costosa
Basic version is 16*2+2tb ssd, you can buy 32*2 and more 2tb ssd and it will be 64/4
We need the 16 core 3DVCache cpu in those. For gaming
i hope amd gets x3d cpus along with actual igpu cores which can handle daily usage, and hopefully beat intel even in singlecore by increasing the performance, because amd 7945 has worse batterylife than even intel, so they can afford to suck more power in the absolute high end chips
The 7945 HX3D is an awesome chip, too bad we do not see it in more devices.
back in ces, msi hinted a 7945hx3d titan, but Asus only have ryzen hx in scar 17 and zephyrus duo 16
@@AgastyaXVIt's not an iGPU issue.. it's uncore power draw due to chiplet architecture and seperate always active I/O die.
@@techstation365 well the 7945 just has 2 graphics cores, so the laptop has to rely on the dgpu for graphics rendering. If amd raises clockspeeds, gives it more power limit, and increases gpu cores from 2 to 12, it would be perfect. Basically matching the i914900hx single core (its already faster on the multicore, and getting more igpu cores so its better on battery to)
I own the HX 18 and love it. It's a beefy laptop, sure, but it has all the I/O I need, and it's not as hard to pack as you'd think.
I enjoyed it a lot as well!
What backpack are you using? Mine have all been too small :D
@@NotebookcheckReviews I use a SOC backpack with a neoprene sleeve for extra protection.
How's the light bleed on the IPS Mini Led screens?
Dear Notebookcheckreviews, what i choose? Lenovo Legion Pro 5 vs Asus ROG Strix G18 (all 2024 versions)
I want most quit laptop
Rog
does the rog makes a high pitch fan sound, it appears?
What’s a decent content creator laptop mid range price for 2024. Mainly photo editing for astrophotography
Asus zenbook 16x pro, good luck finding one though cause of scalpers
Watching in my ASUS SCAR 18 2024 RTX 4090 PURCHASED IN MARCH 2024
Nice flexi, mate! Enjoy your new notebook!
Can you believe it? ASUS ROG Strix SCAR 17 (2023) RTX 4090 7945HX is still the King of the gaming laptops ...
I disagree; yes, when it comes to performance, it is a few percentage points faster, but good luck finding it anywhere, and it's using a plastic chassis from a few years ago.
Performance is not everything ;)
@@NotebookcheckReviews And the screen on the SCAR 17 is not as good either 😊😊
I want to know which is the best gaming laptop@@NotebookcheckReviews
At 1080p games yes because 1080p games are cpu bound. When you get to qhd/1440p/2k it's pretty much the same. In 4k it's all the same because the higher resolution you go the more gpu bound you become.
Im sticking with my alienware m18 r2 for now , even though these have better screens now, I know for sure alienware next gen laptops will beat the market no sweat.
Is the MSI titan compatible with the dell dock WD 19S 130W?
Unfortunately I can not test that for you!
I just bought a ge78hx raider. It feels like a tank compared to my last cheaper laptop.
Is it possible to use HDR all the time and get that 1400 nits brightness even in SDR content?
Yes but colours will look washed out
@@iz723 cant you adjust that
Desktop replacements should have the connectors behind like the MSI as they spend most of the time on the desk. Asus hasn't received the memo.
Does that somewhat block the heat exhaust though
MSI made a mistake putting the power on the back of mine because I use it like a laptop, and they bent the female plug for the power, so I have loose power cords now. I got the Asus, and the MSI got a bigger keyboard, which I appreciated; the Asus keyboard was small and hard to type on.
I prefer Scar 18. There are several point so I choose Scar 18. I know, Titan actually cheaper than Scar 18.
Thanks, only difference in audio is very annoying 😅
let’s be real here: anything less than an oled for prices above the 2500 mark is no longer up to date. Oleds simply do not cost that much in terms of production any more and the fact that we as customers are still paying extra for them is just due to marketing.
Lots of people prefer Mini-LEDs, its a matter of personal preference.
And afaik there is simply no one offering an 18" OLED panel for now ...
I would NOT get an oled. As Alex said, some people prefer mini-LED. For me, the most important is the brightness. And as far as I know there is no laptop oled with 600-800 nits.
Asus considers its mini LED's high end. That's why you see it on their Strix and Strix Scar lineup aka their highest end models
looooooooooool the webcam quality is crazy.
I would've loved to see the new Alienware M18 included in this. The three are the last I've come down to and can't decide!
The review for the M18 was not quite ready at the time of filming this one. But we just got a sample for the 2024 M18, so it will get a seperate video soon!
Did you mention thermals? the MOST important thing?!
Yepp during our noise samples and if you want to get more in-depth you can find more information on our website!
The MSI is tempting... But damn, that mechanical key board. I know I am an exeption, but I avoid these ear-breaking monster at all cost. Plus they won't even use "silent" switches... Add in the battery life, and if I finally decide to surclass my traditional 17" for a 18", Asus win easily. If I buy a laptop, it's to take advantage of the battery, not leave it to sit on a desk.
Um, the Scar 17 AMD 7945 is outperforming both of these in several test, it seems.
You're a awesome laptop reviewer
Thanks a ton mate!
The better mousepad and screen is a swinger for the Scar. It's annoying that the MSI seems to check every box except those two, because they are important. I use the mousepad and screen for most of what I do.
I agree the Strix series needs a redesign, I’m tired of the gamery look
Nice Titans! I’m having a fever dream!
:D
I'm curious about the 120hz display on the Titan. I've seen some comments saying "For this price it should be 240hz."
Is there something I'm missing? Why wouldn't they go that route especially if the last model was a 144hz mini-LED display?
You have to understand that manufacturers are dependent on what is available from display suppliers. Even a company like MSI can probably not ask somebody to make a 4k 18" 240 Hz Mini-LED display for us.
@@NotebookcheckReviews wasn't so much talking about a 4k 18" 240hz display, i meant the benefits of their 4k 120hz vs the 240hz. I play fighting games and shooters mostly but i really wanted the TItan. Ended up getting a Rog Scar because I couldn't find any detailed reviews on how their display would've fared for those types of games. I know for adventure-style and RPG games it'd look amazing, though.
It looks like the ROG cools the CPU way better.
Do not forget that the MSI runs the i9 with much higher power levels!
@@NotebookcheckReviews Good point. Though with temps approaching 100C, I am not sure how long it will go where you need the extra performance, before it throttles down. Perhaps not during gaming, but for anything that will keep pushing that CPU...plus this is a brand new laptop with brand new thermal paste (or whatever they use) and no dust or other debris in the fans etc. It doesn't look good in the long run. To me anyway.
Titan 18 hands down. The scar 18 looks extremely cheap. I can’t go without that cherryMX keyboard as well. I tried both out and definitely keeping the Titan 18.
I also really enjoyed the TITAN its just so over the top and ridiculous, but in a very practical way ... if that makes sense ;)
May I ask what you use it for?
@@NotebookcheckReviews mainly for gaming, a little for work. I love gaming laptops (first gaming laptop was the Alienware M9700, back when Alienware was a shop in Florida), but most today are built cheap. I love large DTR laptops, and miss the days of the GT80 Titan, Alienware 51m, etc.
The titan 18 is the only large 18 inch
Laptop with amazing build quality and performance right now. Plus I have too much disposable income and don’t mind the outrageous price. The scar looks like a late 90s early 2000s toy with that clear plastic, lol.
Scar 18/16 looks and performs absolutely best in my option
The Cane Corso 'puppies' of gaming laptops! 🤣
Both laptops are overpriced for different reasons. Teardowns of the Scar 18 show that it could be significantly improved not only in build quality, but with a bigger battery, better speakers and perhaps 4 RAM slots. The Titan at $1,500 more should have better speakers, a much better webcam, and provide a flawless experience. Let's hope as Intel improves efficiency, we'll see more laptops like the Zephyrus G16 but with great gaming performance.
I got a zephyrus g16 and i do like the build quality alot. The thing they can improve is the keybord.
An 18 inch laptop should be even nicer.
I still don't understand why they even started putting webcams in these laptops. I guess because people were complaining. Completely unnecessary. You can get a logitech webcam that has infinitely better quality for pretty cheap. Just taking up screen space for no reason. Objectively speaking most people do not use their webcams.
Bigger battery? it's already essentially at the legal limit for what is allowed on planes. 99.99 is the closest you can get because you legally cannot have 100wh batteries in a laptop. That's just a dumb argument honestly.
I will admit to the better speakers, but beyond that the titan is pretty appropriately priced, but more of a problem of poor marketing. The titan is as close to a medium between a content creation and gaming laptop as you can get. It's basically an 18 inch macbook pro with a 4090. When you consider how expensive getting the same specs from both pc and mac would be the titan is pretty appropriately priced if not cheaper.
I don't understand these companies... people end up shelling out 5 to 6 THOUSAND dollars/euros and they have some bullshitg potato webcam on these? Like what the hell is wrong with Asus and MSI here? At these price points this is completely unacceptasble. There is no excuse too
Agreed!
Especially considering that some gamers use their Gaming laptops for live streams
Plz review macbook air 15 m3
Thank you
We should get one soon!
🤣🤣🤣 MSI knows how to put it together but not in the cost!!! $7K for the Titan and $4900 for the Asus Scar 18!!! Easy choice!!
I bought Scar 2 in 2018 and used the shit out of it, poor thing's old and underperforming in almost every aspect now. Time to upgrade but there's so many options and all of them comes with pros and cons, so hard to decide. Thinking of Scar 18, but saw some videos where Scar 17 had better performance. Thought of Zephyrus G16 but apparently it's not 'that' good for gaming. Haven't considered other brands cause been a rog fanboi for some reason. HELP
Have you considered the Scar16? I have been daily driving the top-end SKU for a while now, and I actually like it a lot (apart form the design. ;))
But I am also working on a high-end gaming laptop round-up, which should be done soon.
That one might be interesting for you!
@@NotebookcheckReviews - i'll check out Scar 16 too! Also, looking forward to the high-end gaming laptop round-up!
Dude its so frustrating no laptop can fully win me. I need machanical switches a good cooling but also the sound from a g 16 and its microphone. But the g16 hase neiter a good wifi card mechanical switches nor a numpad.
MSI is a monster🔥
Very much so!
I cannot understand the infinite contrast you reported for titan. It doesn't make sense for a miniled panel to have oled quality.
By the way could you please compare scar 16 and zephyrus g16 displays?
Is titan have gsync/free sync bcz while gaming there is some scarring/terring issue
The MSI doesn't have G-sync. The Asus has G-sync, Advanced Optimus and a MUX switch.
MSI Titan looks drop dead gorgeous. ROG 18? cheap and ugly.
I think the new alienware m18 r2 gonna be a good contestant
Definitly, even tho it lacks severely in the screen department!
@@NotebookcheckReviews Thants a shame because the only ones 18 inches who have a good performance/price are asus scar 18 and alienware m18.. hope to see the review to choose
If Dell used the 4K 120hz screen that they absolutely could use, yes, but it would still be behind in performance compared to these 2 laptops.
Dell will fall behind in terms of cooling. They still use a flipped motherboard layout in the M18 R2
I can buy 2 asus rog strix 16 with titan
I think you can make that comparison with a lot of different notebooks! ;)
@@NotebookcheckReviews i recommend scar 16/18 for their display.
May be i buy the 18 varient, but confused between alienware and asus
Asus with plastic chassis...? 👎
That is my biggest gripe with the Strix Line-Up. They are awesome machines, but the chassis ... :/
The Alienware is much better made, but seriously lacks in the screen department, compared to the Scars with their Mini-LEDs ...
Have you seen our M18 review?
ruclips.net/video/sjvHGhB409M/видео.html
@@NotebookcheckReviews I love Alienware but this gen have a poor nits monitor. The m18 chassis is better than a new Titan?
What can you get for about $10.000?
A good sh car.
Very true!
Seems to me the best laptop to acquire is the Scar 17 thanks to AMD. Am I wrong?
If you solely look at CPU performance, then yes. But good luck getting one, and you will get the same not quite up-to-snuff chassis and general build quality "issues" as with the scar 18
@@NotebookcheckReviews I see. Thank you. What's the best laptop to go for in the 17/18" in 2024 please
Both seemed flawed, I rather get an m18 r2 maybe a legion 9i or even an g16 from asus.
Next Laptop inovation: No batteries by 2030! Too much Hardware, too little lithium.
So its an All-in-one desktop?
Why are MSI and Asus putting the 14th Gen Intel CPU's that ARE similarly affected with the problems the desktop versions are (same die, users are finding they are running st 1.6v factory bios!!!) In these flagships? Ryzen 9 processors are faster, require less power and produce less heat. I will wait until these flagships are offered with Ryzen processors.
I do not think that AMD can meet the demand that major OEMs have for their notebook line ups.
And Ryzen HX runs hotter than Intel despite the lower Wattage, which completely offsets the efficiency advantage and battery life is for the most part even worse.
But apparently their will be a MSI Raider 18 HX with a Ryzen X3D, and I'm trying to get my hands on that one...
They’re both great laptops especially the Titan 18 HX it’s legendary. 192 GB of portable DDR5 is INSANE BEAST mode for a laptop!
Yet the 2024 Razer Blade 18 is far better, 98 GB DDR5,Thunderbolt 5 (easily drives 3 4K displays, or two 8K displays at 60 HZ at the same time!) better battery life, same performance, same 14900HX as the MSI Titan 18 HX and the ROG STRIX SCAR 18 and the Razer Blade 18 has a 200 Hz 4K OLED/ or selectable 1440p 300 HZ display!
All of these laptops have about the same performance in 4k resolutions. In 1080p the strix scar 18 and especially 17 with the ryzen 3d chip is gapping the intel chips. Razer blade laptops are reglarly the worst performing laptops every year though so that's not really true. They also are notorious for having thermal throttling problems due to the aluminum chasis while also having poor air intake compared to the competition. Asus laptops run the coolest of all of them, but they're purely gaming laptops. The msi titan and razer blades are more a medium for content creation and gaming.
No G-sync on the MSI is a HUGE fail!
Unfortunately that is true!
Edit : Okay i get it , there seems to be quite a few use cases for these huge laptops, was interesting to ready eachother's perspectives.
who's buying these giants lol ? I can't imagine carrying anything bigger than 16" as a portable workstation. Not to mention they don't even get the basic essentials of a laptop right.
desktop replacement category fr. Many people want the absolote max performance while being portable, batery=UPS for them. I got a 17.3'' rn, i would love to get the 18 because i like bigger laptops. I dont really travel much with it, but it would be interesting to see it in the future how things play out. +in future i got plans of getting a ultrabook+ a desktop if things work but yeah
You Think People are Buying these
Workstation Laptops to take them
to the College or Office ? 🤣🤣
I would agree, I like the form factor a lot too.
Not for regular travel, but to have a portable rig at home, that I can easily use in every room.
I love giant laptops
Me! I am a gaming player but i work traveling! I don't have a place to have a desktop so never judge. Every person live their life very different from others. And every gamer wants a big screen. doesnt matter if is not good to travel
Its just pathetic that even after paying 4k on top end gaming laptop by asus you have to deal with ugly plasticky bits, flimsy build quality, 720p potato webcams and poor port selection. A few extra mm thickness or few gram extra weight doesn't matter to people who are buying 18 inch laptops, but they will keep listening to their MBA bro consultants who have never used anything other than a Macbook in their lives.
And did they really kill the RGB light bar to just add those neon blue plastic stripes on Titan? They should just make it have a clean look if the 'gaming aesthetic' is too scary for them suddenly. Just focus on the actual consumerbase instead to trying to woo starbucks hippies, there are plenty of generic plain laptops out there.
Spent the whole video shit talking Asus. Why even include them?
😅 I do not think I was shit talking anything ...
Asus shouldn't be compared to the MSI. Its marginally worse and not even the same league. Even with the same specs it performs worse in cooling, gaming, benchmarks WITH THE SAME SPECS. Only thing this year that will be able to compare to MSI is the Razer 18. Should've just reviewed the MSI by itself and yes i have it.
Everything you said will probably hold true for the Razer as well.
It will be slower, and the screen will not be a Mini-LED, etc.
And if you do not care about the comparison, you still get all the info about the MSI or the ROG, do you not? ;)
How do you like the MSI? May I ask what you do with it?
@@NotebookcheckReviews Well I heard razor is upping tdp and a new cooling process so I guess we will find out. This may sound ridiculous to you but I am a stock investor. I mainly use it along side a tablet to invest. I love media consumption on it. I play games like Minecraft on it mostly but also played cyberpunk so sometimes I'll play a triple a game if it seems cool but very rare. I do plan to invent stuff so I definitely will be using this or whichever the newest one in the future is for 3d rendering ideas I have for invention as well. Overkill? Probably so, but everyone financial situations are different so for me and my situation this isn't considered a big purchase for me. I love it. I may don't put it to it's full use but I wanted a 18 inch mini led laptop with a mechanical keyboard that could do it all if I ever do need it to. Oh and it's also a tax write off for me lol. Since 100 percent of my work is done on it and I believe the minimum is 50 percent
bro your videos are too boring although its informative but still boring
😅 what makes them so boring?
Neither is worth the price. Since we never got ti GPUs versions, people are paying premium prices for 1 year old chips.
CPUs are insignificant in the performance arena, because you could get a laptop I3 and still play AAA on ultra with a 4090.
Worst model year since 2018