@@Tobi-wt4sh Because the games a mess, if you keep giving valve money whilst it's in the state it is, they're making money and the game is fine to them they have no incentive to fix or make it better. They're a business not a game developer in reality.
Why are you not bringing up all the case opening RUclipsrs as being a factor too? You are indirectly pouring fuel into the fire giving Valve zero reasons to fix the gameplay when you spend and influence several hundreds of thousands in case openings. And all the gambling/skinsite sponsors doesn't help the game too. It's a bit unfair pointing fingers on everybody else when you are, in my opinion, one of the biggest reasons why Valve isn't taking any actions.
'obviously cheaters tend to rank up quickly and cluster at high ELO' - I'd REALLY like to disagree with you there. I don't think that's obvious at all, especially if there's an apparatus actually banning them on occasion. I don't think they cluster. Skill levels vary for cheaters as well. Personally I would think most cheaters would be in the 4-7 range because that's where you start as a new account and they generally aren't around for the long-term.
Considering the rate at which they get banned is low, and the rate that they win (and by extension gain rank) is high, there is an argument for mostly high rated cheaters. As a low elo person myself (12k-15k depending) I can't say for certain I have encountered any cheaters. There has been some sus plays and people I could say MIGHT be cheating, but I have yet to play against a spinbot or an obvious waller. Side note I know what cheating looks like cause 10 years ago I was fucked around and found out. I have come to the conclusion that 3 things might be happening: 1) I am extremely lucky 2) The cheaters are not in my rank 3) The cheating problem is not as bad as people say it is. Skill issue.
I think that’s the issue… they’re not getting banned and are there long term, but I’m not 1000%. It just seems like that’s the whole point everyone’s getting at lol.
tldr big changes - people dislike the game/quit - sell skins - people who still like game/new players keep buying skins - prices stay the same / go up (also ban waves reduce supply - increased price on rare items)
im done with this game... I have 6 accs and before every match over 20k was with cheater, but NOW most of the games in even 12k-15k are with cheater -_-
My highest rank in matchmaking is silver elite, and I still get atleast 1 very obvious cheater every 7-9 or so matches. And I'm talking spin bots and blatant wall hacks. So while it's nothing like the high elo lobbies with literal multiple cheaters in every lobby. The cheating problem is still VERY bad in the lower ranks.
I am in Bangladesh .. Indian subcontinent .. silver 1 rank .. and I've never met a single cheater after CS2 was released . Always wondering where these cheaters are that everyone is talking about. Must be in Europe on higher ranks. My teammates and enemies are always either Indiana or Chinese players.
cheating only affects the top 10-20% of players in the game, majority of the playerbase doesnt even get cheaters because all cheaters are only in high elo lol
i would like that steam would add an better version for trading in the steam ui . since i could easily trade skins for skins with other people , this is something missing after the csgolounge ban :/ some years ago .
This was a great video, but one thing I think you got wrong is by saying the skins market ‘isn’t a normal market’. It may not be a traditional market, but it is definitely acting like a normal market. NOTE, by saying normal I’m not saying it’s perfectly efficient, what I’m saying is that there is no outside party setting the price of skins, it’s all controlled by supply and demand. There can totally be inefficiencies in it, especially where there LACKS diversity of opinion, take the housing market in 2007, everyone said it could NEVER burst, but it did, there was a lack of diversity of opinion, same scenarios can be found with steam skins.
I think it is also not dying because there is no panic sell like it was many years ago. Many ppl were panic selling top tier shit, and if someone panic sells items that costs the same as used car, someone who owns skins worth good bottle of vodka will also sell them. Rn there is no such behavior on market, yeah ppl quit Cs selling whole inventories rn but not on scale it happened before
Most of the playerbase sticks around because they feel like they need to give purpose to their investments. Those that never cared about their inventory nor the market don’t feel like they need to stick around, so they don’t.
A year ago I opened youtube and there is a guy who had live stream while cheating, I got his profile ID, report him , comment him, even added on my bookmark to report once in a while. Guess what, he is still playing....
Real reason just market manipulation and a small group of people (In comparison) being majority holders and not trying to let the CS2 Inflation prices fall
I think one reason why the player base is still growing with trust factor off is because. Cheats can more easily play with higher ranged people and the new legit accounts aren't forced to play with cheaters keeping them in the game
I have met only one spinboter and i've been playing since 2022 (1500h). 90% of cheaters that i met had wh and aimlock at best. And i experience 1-2 cheaters in 5-10 games. The problem with cheating is the same as in csgo when you will stop playing premier and start playing comp.
Skins are getting more expensive it's because mainly youtubers / content creators make contents out of opening cases and getting sponsors for them to make $. Shits will never getting cheaper if they are getting abused. CSGO is just a tool for them to make money, more followers and subscribers, the more followers the money they make. It's like you buy a set of tools, to fix shits or create stuff to generate money. It's a big pool of money, everyone can grab some. But for those who really enjoy game and buy the skin genuinely, sadly that won't work them. At least not anymore.
I just started a week ago I’m not a cheater but they are everywhere I don’t even try to play ranked my first day I saw someone get banned mid game after killing my whole team off spawn 6 rounds in a row
Cs back in the days (yes let's play for fun and don't look to the skins yay) cs now (Yo bro if you don't have a karambit/butterfly or a dlore it's not even fun to play) I see this game becoming a currency instead of an enjoyable game were people don't actually think they better because of the skins
casual players don't care about the problems most investors and nerds see. They just like the game and spend a bit of money on skins when they feel like it.
@@Klongfall during the stockholm sale..i brought 50 holos of most teams and had around team 30 golds and 5 simple gold 1000 of each capsules..mouz gave the most profit brought for less then a dollar i think was 80-90 cents each..sold it for 65 each..navi gave the least profit brought around 2.50 each sold for around 4..i could have made more if i had some patient..i got too excited and sold most of it..
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np m8
If you give me a blue skin ill do it
no tnx🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿
(im already subbed)
"We quit the thing that makes valve zero dollars"
Solid work boys
Bro even the chickens are spinning now 💀
Anomaly: Quits CS2
Literally a week later: Sets a new record in opening CS2 cases (worth AT LEAST 16,000 $)
This is why CS2 is being CS2
It was 21k euros worth of cases+keys
he made the video before he quit tho
He never said he quits gambling tho
@@H4wKindGD The point is that he's supporting them, and at the same time he wants them to do something about the game
Facts
prob cause y’all buying them after “quitting”
true 😆
exactly
yes i still get em too why should i s top xd
@@Tobi-wt4sh Because the games a mess, if you keep giving valve money whilst it's in the state it is, they're making money and the game is fine to them they have no incentive to fix or make it better. They're a business not a game developer in reality.
Real
Skins arent dying because 90% of the users are gambling addicts that doesnt play the actual game
I don't gamble and I have skins... wait I don't play either.. I
@@armanclark2401Hi My name is Jimmy “Mr” Beast. If you give your skins to me, I’ll double it!
the sad truth
It’s true.
@@armanclark2401 same. Myb i will trade them in for a steam deck or sth some day
We would need to boycott cases for anything to actually happen
then what do you expect these market-manipulators will do? show their fat bodies or crunched backs on their streams?
I know I am, I’ve spent over 1000 usd and not even got a red or gold.
@@Crow-xm3nm I’m with you, I’m only about $500 deep and have never gotten a red
I opened three cases and got two ak inheritance lmao sold them got a Bowie knife lore and moto gloves , good odds
@@AndrewScottacs ''only''
Why are you not bringing up all the case opening RUclipsrs as being a factor too? You are indirectly pouring fuel into the fire giving Valve zero reasons to fix the gameplay when you spend and influence several hundreds of thousands in case openings. And all the gambling/skinsite sponsors doesn't help the game too. It's a bit unfair pointing fingers on everybody else when you are, in my opinion, one of the biggest reasons why Valve isn't taking any actions.
I agree
imagine paris capsules on 0.09$
that would be literally worse then rio and rmr
@@produalz4645 coming soon in heyzeus video
'obviously cheaters tend to rank up quickly and cluster at high ELO' - I'd REALLY like to disagree with you there. I don't think that's obvious at all, especially if there's an apparatus actually banning them on occasion. I don't think they cluster. Skill levels vary for cheaters as well. Personally I would think most cheaters would be in the 4-7 range because that's where you start as a new account and they generally aren't around for the long-term.
Considering the rate at which they get banned is low, and the rate that they win (and by extension gain rank) is high, there is an argument for mostly high rated cheaters. As a low elo person myself (12k-15k depending) I can't say for certain I have encountered any cheaters. There has been some sus plays and people I could say MIGHT be cheating, but I have yet to play against a spinbot or an obvious waller. Side note I know what cheating looks like cause 10 years ago I was fucked around and found out.
I have come to the conclusion that 3 things might be happening:
1) I am extremely lucky
2) The cheaters are not in my rank
3) The cheating problem is not as bad as people say it is. Skill issue.
I think that’s the issue… they’re not getting banned and are there long term, but I’m not 1000%. It just seems like that’s the whole point everyone’s getting at lol.
Some cheaters are absolutely garbage despite cheats and try to hide them, eg with only esp and pretend 😂😂
wm pre mg no cheaters after mg only cheaters
Im cheating at the moment.
I run chams because I got so fed up with the visual clarity in the game.
I pulled an inheritance last week. First skin I ever got worth more than 35 cents.
as I clicked to watch this I got an advertisement from one of the gambling sites saying that there prices for skins were at and all time low.
LATVIA MENTIONED RAAAAH
Juuuh😂
Not sure if this particular example is how i expected, or rather wanted, for it to be mentioned.
Sito gan tu nesaprati
@@g5c Chist nesaprata neviens
hey man any publicity is good publicity
The Arms Deal Update and its consequences have been a disaster for Counter-Strike.
Oy vey
well if they ban gambling websites i'm sure that every liquid skin will lose 200% of its value
Because we are investing. Don't wanna repeat the mistakes of not buying a 2014 kato sticker capsule.
The copium addicts buying Paris capsules by the thousand:
0:57 regardless of what he makes, the only thing dima is eating is mcdonalds 💀
My last 10 premier games I had an opponent cheater with blatant cheats awping through walls on 17k elo.
The problem with games now any developer has more than the option to put bots in their game and say that “we have a huge player base”
7:00 Latvia mentioned Raah 🗣️🤑
Houngoungagne. I have never known how to pronounce this name and you say it so effortlessy
RAAAHH, Latvia mentioned🤯
7:20 Where does one buy some of this massively discounted Buff balance?
anomaly just sold like 25k balance. check x vallah billah
the music in the backround got me dead XD old school runescape type beat
osrs meta
"I hate CS2 thats why I'm quitting but still gambling and giving thousands of dollars to Valve"
good video, stepped away from trading for the last few months, still got a few solid holdings but good to see that things arent all doom and gloom
Everyone knows they'll eventually make it playeable again and fix the surrounding issues this is how many big games start.
tldr big changes - people dislike the game/quit - sell skins - people who still like game/new players keep buying skins - prices stay the same / go up (also ban waves reduce supply - increased price on rare items)
I wish skins were cheaper, even in csgo many skins used to be a lot cheaper
Normally the prices should sink in summer. But this only will happen if valve won't fix the game before
That's because people didn't realize how hard and how much luck and money it takes to actually pull something nice from a case
There are lots of good cheap skins
I have not met a single cheater in my past 200 games.
I play silver 1 nuke to be fair
im done with this game... I have 6 accs and before every match over 20k was with cheater, but NOW most of the games in even 12k-15k are with cheater -_-
there’s a thing called FACEIT
I still haven’t bought a skin in counter strike
My highest rank in matchmaking is silver elite, and I still get atleast 1 very obvious cheater every 7-9 or so matches. And I'm talking spin bots and blatant wall hacks. So while it's nothing like the high elo lobbies with literal multiple cheaters in every lobby. The cheating problem is still VERY bad in the lower ranks.
Playerbase is up 4.3% over the last month, game is still growing and as long as that's happening, the skins market will remain stable.
I am in Bangladesh .. Indian subcontinent .. silver 1 rank .. and I've never met a single cheater after CS2 was released .
Always wondering where these cheaters are that everyone is talking about.
Must be in Europe on higher ranks. My teammates and enemies are always either Indiana or Chinese players.
Answered your question. You’re an Indian and in silver one.
cheating only affects the top 10-20% of players in the game, majority of the playerbase doesnt even get cheaters because all cheaters are only in high elo lol
I just accidentally bought a shit float jawbreaker for double the market price I'm PISSED
Let's be honest if csgo & cs2 were seperate games, no one would be playing cs2 with the problems it has now
True I would have went back they knew what they were doing after the cs source and 1.6 debacle
i would like that steam would add an better version for trading in the steam ui . since i could easily trade skins for skins with other people , this is something missing after the csgolounge ban :/ some years ago .
Anticheat is basically the only problem with cs2, if you play faceit, it is basically just csgo with a bit more crashing
This was a great video, but one thing I think you got wrong is by saying the skins market ‘isn’t a normal market’. It may not be a traditional market, but it is definitely acting like a normal market.
NOTE, by saying normal I’m not saying it’s perfectly efficient, what I’m saying is that there is no outside party setting the price of skins, it’s all controlled by supply and demand. There can totally be inefficiencies in it, especially where there LACKS diversity of opinion, take the housing market in 2007, everyone said it could NEVER burst, but it did, there was a lack of diversity of opinion, same scenarios can be found with steam skins.
I think it is also not dying because there is no panic sell like it was many years ago. Many ppl were panic selling top tier shit, and if someone panic sells items that costs the same as used car, someone who owns skins worth good bottle of vodka will also sell them. Rn there is no such behavior on market, yeah ppl quit Cs selling whole inventories rn but not on scale it happened before
Most of the playerbase sticks around because they feel like they need to give purpose to their investments. Those that never cared about their inventory nor the market don’t feel like they need to stick around, so they don’t.
that's what we want to see from you, not only case openings
A year ago I opened youtube and there is a guy who had live stream while cheating, I got his profile ID, report him , comment him, even added on my bookmark to report once in a while. Guess what, he is still playing....
Real reason just market manipulation and a small group of people (In comparison) being majority holders and not trying to let the CS2 Inflation prices fall
I think one reason why the player base is still growing with trust factor off is because. Cheats can more easily play with higher ranged people and the new legit accounts aren't forced to play with cheaters keeping them in the game
guys he jinxed it, quicksell fast
Lmao 😂
They're gonna fix the game eventually. People are holding on to their skins.
when more ppl leave the game, less supply of skins, more higher prices
Also less demand, meaning lower prices.
“Figgle it out”
I feel bad for Billy Bob...
Skin prices are probably never gonna go down for ages with the Chinese market and gambling sites
I can't really play cs 2 cause it does not run that well compared to go but I still keep my skins cause I like them
cs2 has a bigger problem than cheaters: they removed classic deathmatch and only left us with ffa
I don’t get to play the game
Much these days thank you for keeping people like me updated on the skins market
Havent played cs in 2024, still have 5 figure of skins lol
The day CSGO stops being toxic is the day i will sell my skins, everybody needs to unwind after coming home from work
"problems"❌
"FitCars"✅
dude forgot to mention cheaters in the list of problems, like idk how that happens with the current state of cs
Weird seeing CS2 getting the TF2 treatment
On which gambling site can you actually sell for stupid high prices?
Latvia mentioned‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️
yall got the TF2 expirience for free
I have met only one spinboter and i've been playing since 2022 (1500h). 90% of cheaters that i met had wh and aimlock at best. And i experience 1-2 cheaters in 5-10 games. The problem with cheating is the same as in csgo when you will stop playing premier and start playing comp.
Skins are getting more expensive it's because mainly youtubers / content creators make contents out of opening cases and getting sponsors for them to make $. Shits will never getting cheaper if they are getting abused. CSGO is just a tool for them to make money, more followers and subscribers, the more followers the money they make. It's like you buy a set of tools, to fix shits or create stuff to generate money. It's a big pool of money, everyone can grab some. But for those who really enjoy game and buy the skin genuinely, sadly that won't work them. At least not anymore.
Gave up CS last month and jumped back into Dota to show Valve how disappointed I am in CS. That'll show em!
See how the crash happened in TF2 market before, that I don't want to invest in CS2 skins too much
When?
you mean the hat bug of what was it '19? '20?
Only time I recall a big crash in the market was during the crate depression
@@caddin2620 back in the old days of 1919 and 1920
You could basically get tf2 version of knife every case valve fix by letting people keep first one opened
Keep opening cases and obviously Valve will not do anything... thanks heyzeus all the cases addicts!
I just started a week ago I’m not a cheater but they are everywhere I don’t even try to play ranked my first day I saw someone get banned mid game after killing my whole team off spawn 6 rounds in a row
cuz they're dying. at least all of mine died lmao. they were going up like crazy and then dropped by $500
They're not dying entirely, but everything marketwise has been slowly going down for a month now.
errr no
make sense for a guy in china named zhang wei. but why billy bob in latvia instead of fooking london bruv?
This wasn't in my subscriptions box
Hold up hold up. You can use these in a game?!
i haven’t really played in 4 ish months but still trade my knifes monthly
There were cheaters in casual for me
Dont forget the cheater problem
aight no way the skins market is upside down, considering the fact that you are located upside down.
Already sold all of my skins for easy profit other than my ak because it means something and has more than just money value
Andy Sheet
Because CS and steam as a whole has been a haven from money laundering for over a decade.
I just don't understand how fkin Fortnite has such a good anti cheat and Valve doesn't
Because everyone is hodling their skins to buy the next Valve VR headset.
You have helped knowingly or knot towards the increase
Everyone with the "gonna quit", but than where they gonna make ez money? It's just another phase off cs, the real ones know that
Fucking love you heyzeus
Cs back in the days (yes let's play for fun and don't look to the skins yay) cs now (Yo bro if you don't have a karambit/butterfly or a dlore it's not even fun to play) I see this game becoming a currency instead of an enjoyable game were people don't actually think they better because of the skins
When the game is shit but your skin stop you from deleting the game love the hobby
LATVIA MENTIONED RAAAAAHHH
Player numbers are up because of mass bot accounts farming cases.
shout out to Latvia
held up by China not having other good outs for investing
Suermegamanick ultimate prod of Ed’s lo licks goods
why would they when csgo is 99% being carried by gambling and skins
casual players don't care about the problems most investors and nerds see. They just like the game and spend a bit of money on skins when they feel like it.
how can you name someone nerd wit yo pfp anime gay stuff
hey heyzues can you open 100000 Paris capsules ? XD
More like 100mil
invested around 2.5k on stockholm ..sold 90% of it for 15k and have some left... mostly mouz n copenhagen flames holos n couple of golds
when?
@@Klongfall during the stockholm sale..i brought 50 holos of most teams and had around team 30 golds and 5 simple gold 1000 of each capsules..mouz gave the most profit brought for less then a dollar i think was 80-90 cents each..sold it for 65 each..navi gave the least profit brought around 2.50 each sold for around 4..i could have made more if i had some patient..i got too excited and sold most of it..
@@rabinpun-wy5xd no, when did I ask
@@Klongfall 🤡
@@Klongfall hahahaha keep hating on him broke boy
Hi valve pls disable skins trade in Cs2
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