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It would be funny if that Jasper guy was the mastermind of that Washington Law suit and all of these lawsuits were just the work of one lawyer from Kentucky.
People always defend Valve by default due to the classics they made, but you can't deny that Steam has become more than most gaming platforms. It's literally a virtual economy/bank at this point, and when all this economy relies only on an outdated server-side anti-cheat, then issues are bound to happen. Also, the Steam support might be one of the worst supports ever.
@@muximuxicofficial518 Am not saying it's the employees fault, all am saying is they are only contracted by Valve and do not have the possibility to do much for the customer. In some situation, a good bot with the possibilty to help you can be better than a human who canno't help. Valve support don't help but not because they don't want to but because in most cases they can't.
Honest to god, I laughed so hard when you said Valve couldn't respond to the lawsuit in time because they were giving the commission a taste of Valve time
The thing is a skilled lawyer could actually build a case against Valve. Opening cases IS gambling disguised behind some frail arguments. They know that skins have actual monetary value, not just within their ecosystem. Buying Steam balance to open cases is no different than buying casino chips to play Roulette. Since in their view it's not gambling, they never released any information regarding the odds, which could also be a problem for them if it's been proven in court that loot cases are indeed a form of gambling. All you'd have to prove is that Valve is aware of the fact that people "cashout" skins and that they allow it to happen because their revenue drastically increased because of it. It's really not a difficult case to argue, but in the end it's all about how good the lawyers are and whether the judge decides to do something about it or not. I'm sure Valve made sure that all the legal loopholes are closed and that they are covered, but the question remains: are they doing enough to prevent it or they're holding back in order to protect their profits?
But I like gambling. How would that benefit me? Cuz I won't be losing money? Gambling is entertainment, I'm not losing money, I'm paying for entertainment. Might as well just shut down CS as a whole if you use that logic.
The problem that arises now is the market is huge valve have acknowledged and can't deny the fact skins are "worth" a lot of money as they knowingly stopped sites from p2p trading without the exploitation of their API, With a market cap of over a billion USD in skins I'm sure sooner or later the governments of some countries would look into these things and put a stop to it and CS skins will end up untradeable like we have seen with other games due to the financial implications it can bring
I just wonder .. why valve has this trading system for CS skins at the first place ? They could just keep all of them in the steam community market. Prices would be cheaper too in that case.
Just because you can do something doesn't mean that you actually should. Now every future "lawsuit" against Valve will be scoffed at because of these morons.
I live in Washington state and it’s funny to think of the little tribes who make bank off their casinos butt hurt over a video game that gambling is possible in
valve: you open a case you get a skin thats all you can sell it on the market and get other skins or keep it what you do with that is your repsonsability and we do not support you do other options mc leod: THAT WILL NOT STOP ME BECAUSE I CANT READ
10:06 WRONG, they'll fight to uphold their million dollar in-game economy that, lets not sugar coat it. IS BASED ON GAMBLING, the only way for 80% of the items we trade to be dropped in the first place is from cases
why dont all these cool people doing law suits sue the illegal gambling site ???? and people who made them the 2nd one was like 2/3 of the way there :/
Tryna stop skins by using gambling as a reason it's like telling someone who sells apples to stop selling apples because people aren't eating them alone but are making cakes with them
@@MilesProwerTailsFox so cs is a gambling game? Only difference between cs and gambling sites is that one is in the game and that the quotes are more shit
Honesty the only thing that Valve can be sued for is that they take a real payment and then give you a fake currently which can only to be used on steam or there platform. There is some kinda law about this but everyone that goes after valve goes about it wrong. Honestly the only thing this would do is make valve responsible when people get scammed because actual money is involved. This is the loop hole for not being sued. Think about it. Any issues over 1200 in property stolen would be a case. You know all the times people get scammed. Imagine seeing that shit in court all the time.
It's not against the law, it's in their TOS. Them giving you real money back would actually be way more legally complex. People getting scammed isn't on Valve either. It's like saying that Facebook should be sued because someone scammed you in DMs there.
I mean let's be real here folks, the majority of people started getting into CS because of the skin hype. Still a bogus fucking lawsuit though, may as well sue the entire fucking industry 🤡
This video feels very incomplete especially when your remember that in France they have the x-ray scanner for unboxing skins and in some other European countries opening cases is just banned. I personally don't know the exact situations that caused those rules changes but I feel like they were related to lawsuits.
valve isnt fighting for our skins, theyre fighting to keep making money off your skins. massive difference. also, no lawsuit will ever shut down valve and skins, lol, itll take government regulation and even then - theyll only regulate out the gambling mechanics and valve will still make money idiotic lawsuits are hilarious, though
@@Danne_OW Influx of low-skilled, skin obsessed idiots that have no intention of playing the game, influx of speculants, gamblers and wannabe investors that only care if their money multiplies, influx of botters and several more cheaters then the game would have ever had without skins and maybe 10% to 25% of the current playerbase. A whole community that only wants operations and new cases instead of telling valve to make the needed changes to fix the game from its sorry state. Skins have single-handedly destroyed the love I had for the game and sadly because idiots only care for them Valve has effectively stopped caring for the older games which makes 1.6 and CSS unplayable. They even took CSGo from me. Its not about gameplay. Its about the culture those damned skins introduced. And if you don't see anything bad in that culture and want it gone then you are part of the problem.
@@Danne_OW Even more those skins introduced a whole underground of crime into the game that shouldn't exist. Literally steam support workers are selling your data to scammers so that they can steal your skins and sell them on the same websites that every CS youtuber constantly shills. All of this would be gone, millions of dollars owned by thiefs, scammers and lowlifes would be wiped away and all they could do is bitch and cry about it because their entire life savings that they have swindeled their way to is gone.
Bro the video is 10 min long and the video has been out for 8min so why and how are people making comments on the video they have not even watched yet lol
Lmao that Michael guy.. Losing a gamble and then try blaming it all on Valve and while doing that, goes on a vendetta to try and get back at the people who won the gamble by removing the skins permanently. Fortunately this attempt failed and the whole world can see how ridiculous some people can be once they got addicted to gambling, and lose so much including their own sanity. So don't gamble guys. Never gamble. I gambled once or twice before, never again. You will never win.
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It would be funny if that Jasper guy was the mastermind of that Washington Law suit and all of these lawsuits were just the work of one lawyer from Kentucky.
Just wait until the lawyer who wanted to sue Valve for his VAC ban comes after the skins
As a lawyer,...
As a lawyer,...
(Valve will fight to the death to protect your skins)❌️
(Valve will fight to the death to protect THEIR skins) ✅️
cheeseburger
Hamburger
Cheeseburger no burger please
cheeseburger
chickenburger
Without the bread and the meat and the salad and the onions and the pickles
That lawyer definitely lost his csgo skins on a gambling site and blaming valve 🤫
But he right tho
People always defend Valve by default due to the classics they made, but you can't deny that Steam has become more than most gaming platforms. It's literally a virtual economy/bank at this point, and when all this economy relies only on an outdated server-side anti-cheat, then issues are bound to happen. Also, the Steam support might be one of the worst supports ever.
@@chi_ta At least you have a person in your steam support, rather then a bot
@@muximuxicofficial518 Am not saying it's the employees fault, all am saying is they are only contracted by Valve and do not have the possibility to do much for the customer.
In some situation, a good bot with the possibilty to help you can be better than a human who canno't help. Valve support don't help but not because they don't want to but because in most cases they can't.
@@youngmoney4313nope
Valve fighting bogus law suits to protect my p250 sand dune makes me realize atleast someone in this world is looking out for me
😂😂😂 too good
The protected my MP7 Motherboard. Thanks Valve.
Valve protecting my... *checks notes* P250 facility draft.
The Law & Order music got me.
Honest to god, I laughed so hard when you said Valve couldn't respond to the lawsuit in time because they were giving the commission a taste of Valve time
not only is heyzeus giving a history lesson but hes also throwing in some line up strats
Feels weird to repeatedly call them "YOUR SKINS" with such emphasis, when you don't actually own them.
We will see this on ohnes react channel soon
The thing is a skilled lawyer could actually build a case against Valve. Opening cases IS gambling disguised behind some frail arguments. They know that skins have actual monetary value, not just within their ecosystem. Buying Steam balance to open cases is no different than buying casino chips to play Roulette. Since in their view it's not gambling, they never released any information regarding the odds, which could also be a problem for them if it's been proven in court that loot cases are indeed a form of gambling. All you'd have to prove is that Valve is aware of the fact that people "cashout" skins and that they allow it to happen because their revenue drastically increased because of it. It's really not a difficult case to argue, but in the end it's all about how good the lawyers are and whether the judge decides to do something about it or not. I'm sure Valve made sure that all the legal loopholes are closed and that they are covered, but the question remains: are they doing enough to prevent it or they're holding back in order to protect their profits?
Valve Valve-Timing the Government is the most Valve move possible
Thats the most valve thing posible
the use of Lionel Hutz as the lawyer is perfect
I love your content ❤ thanks for giving me and so much enjoyment over the pat 3 years
This man is a new age of mcskillet, instead of doing top 10 listis he does every time someone did a shit job in cs2, truly a scufed version
the difference is hes not gonna crash a mclaren
Really well made video. I gets better and better and I rarely chuckle out loud but you got me with this one.
undeniably, if valve removed skin trading it would be better for valve customers in the long run because people WOULDNT be gambling
Actual poop opinion
But I like gambling. How would that benefit me? Cuz I won't be losing money? Gambling is entertainment, I'm not losing money, I'm paying for entertainment. Might as well just shut down CS as a whole if you use that logic.
Horrible opinion
As a paralegal and cs2 addict. This. This is it
Love this man´s content, been following the genius for 5 years
imagine... a perfect world
nice pun 😅
Without you (: (Undertale last breath phase 3 reference)
Ready to see a vid on the chinese karens making netease shut off containers on buff
HeyZeus is the Morgan Freeman of counter strike
You mean “To protect their skins” 10:10
The problem that arises now is the market is huge valve have acknowledged and can't deny the fact skins are "worth" a lot of money as they knowingly stopped sites from p2p trading without the exploitation of their API, With a market cap of over a billion USD in skins I'm sure sooner or later the governments of some countries would look into these things and put a stop to it and CS skins will end up untradeable like we have seen with other games due to the financial implications it can bring
Ward pulled a Saul Goodman move 😭
I just wonder .. why valve has this trading system for CS skins at the first place ? They could just keep all of them in the steam community market. Prices would be cheaper too in that case.
New theory, valve is making those lawsuits themselves and fighting against them to encourage confidence in the skins lmao
Just because you can do something doesn't mean that you actually should. Now every future "lawsuit" against Valve will be scoffed at because of these morons.
“No body competent”
Literally the government trying to sue valve
shows how competent they are
i mean come on, have u seen the ATF?
You aren't very competent either, can't even spell "nobody"
I live in Washington state and it’s funny to think of the little tribes who make bank off their casinos butt hurt over a video game that gambling is possible in
Call Jeyoma he will win easily this cases in court
If the lawsuit gets serious, I bet people will start disappearing too, serious money here
keys are banned in the netherlands
Beesechurger > cheeseburger
valve: you open a case you get a skin thats all you can sell it on the market and get other skins or keep it what you do with that is your repsonsability and we do not support you do other options
mc leod: THAT WILL NOT STOP ME BECAUSE I CANT READ
My man need to hire jayoma law firm😂😂
10:06 WRONG,
they'll fight to uphold their million dollar in-game economy that, lets not sugar coat it. IS BASED ON GAMBLING, the only way for 80% of the items we trade to be dropped in the first place is from cases
This lawyer should be disbarred.
Cases are just gambling though, and that's a problem in itself.
I would rephrase the last part though. Valve fights until the better end to protect there insane revenue from skins.
They’re probably just mad cause they haven’t hit a gold yet
why dont all these cool people doing law suits sue the illegal gambling site ???? and people who made them the 2nd one was like 2/3 of the way there :/
Tryna stop skins by using gambling as a reason it's like telling someone who sells apples to stop selling apples because people aren't eating them alone but are making cakes with them
cases is also gambling
@@FaWatzmann no shit
@@MilesProwerTailsFox so you are agreeing that steam somehow is a gambling site?
@@FaWatzmann nope, that's in the game, not in the site
@@MilesProwerTailsFox so cs is a gambling game?
Only difference between cs and gambling sites is that one is in the game and that the quotes are more shit
Don’t let Jayoma get this case
I wish someone would just sue valve using their own built in marketplace as the evidence of the value of the skins.
do you do research for your videos or do you just know the history of the game and just google the acticles?
baller vid my brother
to protect THEIR skins, not ours
Daddy Gabe got us😢
10:09 yeah they protected my skins with vac ban after someone broke into my account 😢
even saul goodman can't win against valve
Honesty the only thing that Valve can be sued for is that they take a real payment and then give you a fake currently which can only to be used on steam or there platform. There is some kinda law about this but everyone that goes after valve goes about it wrong. Honestly the only thing this would do is make valve responsible when people get scammed because actual money is involved. This is the loop hole for not being sued. Think about it. Any issues over 1200 in property stolen would be a case. You know all the times people get scammed. Imagine seeing that shit in court all the time.
It's not against the law, it's in their TOS. Them giving you real money back would actually be way more legally complex.
People getting scammed isn't on Valve either. It's like saying that Facebook should be sued because someone scammed you in DMs there.
Lawyer opened a case and got a blue
why is this informative content on my gambling channel?
Thats just hilarious
Thanks for making this
Oh no my whole $50 of skins might be deleted. Anyways
CS2 is racing game
jasper ward needs to step out of the kitchen
I mean let's be real here folks, the majority of people started getting into CS because of the skin hype.
Still a bogus fucking lawsuit though, may as well sue the entire fucking industry 🤡
This video feels very incomplete especially when your remember that in France they have the x-ray scanner for unboxing skins and in some other European countries opening cases is just banned. I personally don't know the exact situations that caused those rules changes but I feel like they were related to lawsuits.
They were not.
@@TDMHeyzeus Alright my bad!
valve isnt fighting for our skins, theyre fighting to keep making money off your skins. massive difference.
also, no lawsuit will ever shut down valve and skins, lol, itll take government regulation and even then - theyll only regulate out the gambling mechanics and valve will still make money
idiotic lawsuits are hilarious, though
Big Mac
they should ban skins until proper anti cheat is installed
Sigma Gaben
Hamburger
Jasper chill
Stopping kids from saying first.
valve will eventually lose a lawsuit and it will happen
"they will fight to protect your skins" wow are you naive! better said they will fight to keep the cash from skins stacking...
i respect valve for bein able to tell fuck off to the us gov body
lawyer defintiley lost some skins
Open an emerald case boy
Bomboclat
This comment changed my life.
@TDMheyzeus do you buy skins I have 2 knives I wanna sell from Aus as well
Never in my life have I wished so much for a lawsuit to succeed.
why???
@@Martin-wr4kn because those skins ruined the game for many people
@@_NotImportantwhat do you mean about skins ruined cs? Doesn’t affect the gameplay
@@Danne_OW Influx of low-skilled, skin obsessed idiots that have no intention of playing the game, influx of speculants, gamblers and wannabe investors that only care if their money multiplies, influx of botters and several more cheaters then the game would have ever had without skins and maybe 10% to 25% of the current playerbase. A whole community that only wants operations and new cases instead of telling valve to make the needed changes to fix the game from its sorry state. Skins have single-handedly destroyed the love I had for the game and sadly because idiots only care for them Valve has effectively stopped caring for the older games which makes 1.6 and CSS unplayable. They even took CSGo from me. Its not about gameplay. Its about the culture those damned skins introduced. And if you don't see anything bad in that culture and want it gone then you are part of the problem.
@@Danne_OW Even more those skins introduced a whole underground of crime into the game that shouldn't exist. Literally steam support workers are selling your data to scammers so that they can steal your skins and sell them on the same websites that every CS youtuber constantly shills. All of this would be gone, millions of dollars owned by thiefs, scammers and lowlifes would be wiped away and all they could do is bitch and cry about it because their entire life savings that they have swindeled their way to is gone.
Fries
I just took a really big shit
not taking sponsors💀
i would fucking love your videos but sometimes i dont understand shit.
1 minute ago is crazy
I’m gonna sue too rn
Plankton 🥝?
cant sell cases on buff, why?
China
Like it or not its gambling
sounds like valve go gamba propaganda
Bro the video is 10 min long and the video has been out for 8min so why and how are people making comments on the video they have not even watched yet lol
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@@dimimen Nah 10x
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B O O R G I R
HEY SUED !
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raaagh 2
Valve BASED xd
hi
Lmao that Michael guy.. Losing a gamble and then try blaming it all on Valve and while doing that, goes on a vendetta to try and get back at the people who won the gamble by removing the skins permanently. Fortunately this attempt failed and the whole world can see how ridiculous some people can be once they got addicted to gambling, and lose so much including their own sanity.
So don't gamble guys. Never gamble. I gambled once or twice before, never again. You will never win.
Michael with a law degree is like a chimp with a machine gun!
damn 232 views in 2 minutes. TDM_Heyzeus fell off.
10:20 / 10:21
nice