I’ve been running this in iRacing, and listening to the real things sounds exactly the same. Good job Iracing team! Can’t wait for the GR series to start in a few months!
Maybe it's because the Cup Car is so raw and unfiltered compared to the road-going GR86, but that lap seemed properly quick. It might just be the sensation of speed, with all the noise and vibration being picked up by the camera and mic, but it felt like they were flying down the track!
lighter wheels, stripped interior and a car thats already extremely rigid... yeah that'll happen. 228whp equates to 268 at the crank, so even the road going car isnt exactly slow. its slow by todays sports car standards but also isn't due to its weight. a mixture of the sound, the transmission theyre using, the perspective, the grip, and the fact that its light as a feather and as said in the video tuned a little, yeah, this thing doesn't just look like its flying, it is hahahaha.
can you stop talking throughout the entire lap, I was hoping you would stop saying "sequential transmission" and "yeah". Other then that I love the video
It's amazing how different ECR looks in this video inside of a car compared to the videos from YammieNoob on a motorcycle!! The track is the same but completely different haha
Ok, that’s sweet. I thought it was a regular manual at first. But when I saw that it was a sequential gearbox, I sooo want to race it. At least I can do that in the sim from iRacing. But I’d really love to race it IRL as well.
Ultra cool! Well done Toyota. BUT, for less than this GR86 Cup price you can by a 997 Cup Car which would dust the 86 Cup. Of course, your running costs on the 997 Cup would likely be A LOT more. It would be awesome to see the GR86 Cup vs the MX-5 Cup cars. Such a delimma, which one to go with...Stock BMW 128i for $8k it is lol.
@@TestDriveVideos Gotchya, thanks for the reply! (I have a feeling this is one of those, "if you have to ask, you probably can't afford it" situations.)
@@georgerosebush9754 Yeah, what bothers me about these videos is that it makes it seem like it could be affordable/attainable to buy a race car and go racing when the reality is that these kind of cars and series are out of reach financially for all but a handful of folks. That said, if anyone can actually find a regular GR86 at MSRP, doing track days is a relative bargain. But it's not racing either...
This channel is geared (no pun intended) towards car enthusiasts, right? So how the hell do people commenting not know what straight cut gears in a sequential box sound like?
It's always struggle between other gear and a helmet. Helmets take up a lot of space in a checked bag or waste a carry-on, and we always have cameras that need to be carried on.
It comes down to cost. Paddle shifters that have to be tuned through an ecu is more complex. Even the 2022 World Rally Cars WRC have moved back to a simplified single shifter
If you watch V8 supercars they also had to budget, because the ECU’s burnt out the engines because of tuning the engine to match the ECU for flappy paddles and that was a testing session, and just before the original Gen3 season, they switched back to the sequential, and it’s not your normal stick shift, it’s not H-pattern it’s push forward to go down and pull towards you to shift up,
I looked him up and he's only 17! He races full time in ARCA and is the youngest driver to ever win a NASCAR sanctioned event, which he won at 15 years old.
I don't know...for me, a road racing beginner--sometimes spec miata racer, I wouldn't mind ABS to intervene if I'm about to flat-spot and ruin a set of expensive race tires!
Complete failure by Toyota on this one. Release a car and claim it can be used on the track…..then change all kinds of stuff. Even a whole new computer. Should have just been a cage, brake fluid, and oil cooler.
That’s the thing with any racing, karting, 86’s, Motorcycle racing, it’s all pay to play, because you have to pay for every spare part if you’re a privateer out of your own pocket. Look at a normal job, let’s say engineering, you may have a set of screws for a piece. Those screws may not fit, you have to pay it out your own money to get the right ones, to make it work Same goes for racing, you need all the spare parts accessible in order to enter in as a privateer so life is a pay to play in itself
what? hahahah. If they're serious about being fast, which is what racing is, is to use a sequential, cuz it is by far the fastest. H pattern is only more fun.
H pattern in a modern car, nah, these are drivers who have never driven H-pattern in their life for the most part, so giving them a sequential is a quicker learning phase
Sequential shift through gears quicker via engine cut, which means for a split second the engine cuts out so the gear can be moved up with ease, not like H-patterns where sometimes you have to ride the clutch until the car comes to the right revs which in some cars can take 1-2 seconds, engine cut only takes about a thousandth of a second if not faster than that so the gears are smoother
@neozone_hyrax.raw. With H pattern transmission you have to blip the throttle and rev match while breaking and that takes lots of talent and practice. Sequential gearbox, specially those with auto blip and ecu controled reve matching is too easy. Maybe I need To get my aaarrrsss in one of these for next season.
@@TestDriveVideos just having some fun with ya. Still, if you’re going to do all that work making it a track car, do the engine as well. IMO, just leave the 86 stock.
@@supraJZA80s I don’t think you get my point. This isn’t a race car no matter how much suspension, brakes and gearbox you throw at it. It’s too novice, too slow and it’s still not going to be cheap. As a track learning tool it’s great but as a racing series, it’s has zero appeal to me.
I’ve been running this in iRacing, and listening to the real things sounds exactly the same. Good job Iracing team! Can’t wait for the GR series to start in a few months!
They got the launch right, that whine of the transmission is cool in iRacing.
It's awesome in iRacing
Better be in vr
Agreed!
Too bad we couldn’t mute the commentator and listen to the car while on track. Nice track, sticky tires, got it!
V8 category and he would’ve been muted 😂
Exactly
Maybe it's because the Cup Car is so raw and unfiltered compared to the road-going GR86, but that lap seemed properly quick. It might just be the sensation of speed, with all the noise and vibration being picked up by the camera and mic, but it felt like they were flying down the track!
Racing slicks make a big difference
lighter wheels, stripped interior and a car thats already extremely rigid... yeah that'll happen.
228whp equates to 268 at the crank, so even the road going car isnt exactly slow. its slow by todays sports car standards but also isn't due to its weight.
a mixture of the sound, the transmission theyre using, the perspective, the grip, and the fact that its light as a feather and as said in the video tuned a little, yeah, this thing doesn't just look like its flying, it is hahahaha.
its a dedicated real race car with a pro driver. It will definitely go faster than a lot of road cars
they never broke over 35MPH.....
can you stop talking throughout the entire lap, I was hoping you would stop saying "sequential transmission" and "yeah". Other then that I love the video
Man got his whole "Yeah I'm an expert here and this is my driver" thing going lol.
iRacing nailed it
Well done 👏🏾
Awesome 👌 👏🏾
I was not expecting a teenager under that helmet driving like that 😂😂😂
So cool. I hope they'll let you drive it yourself sometime
The Cup Car is awesome!
They need to add this to Iracing & GT7 big time, again for drivers preference they can go with whatever platform that they feel its best on for them
It’s in iRacing. I’ve been loving it
@@oogabubchubjust mr kaz of GT7 needs to use his eyes and add these to GT7 and not a singular platform 😂
whats the car specs? engine hp, suspension setup, wheels & tires setup
Jesse Love doing big things now
It's amazing how different ECR looks in this video inside of a car compared to the videos from YammieNoob on a motorcycle!! The track is the same but completely different haha
Amazing car.. can’t wait to see it on tv (I hope they do)!! Btw, how is this the only video about it on YT!! It’s amazing
Driver looks so badass
A friend of mine asks me " How do you become a millionaire?" I said how? He said " Start racing with a Billion dollars!" 😭😭🤯
it sounds so awesome..
This was so cool to watch!
Where can I get these rotiform rims? Couldnt find them.. The Cupcar looks and sounds awesome. Thank you for the ride :)
Ok, that’s sweet. I thought it was a regular manual at first. But when I saw that it was a sequential gearbox, I sooo want to race it. At least I can do that in the sim from iRacing. But I’d really love to race it IRL as well.
They should add “GR Cup” to the GR line 😊
So Thats what Eagles Canyon looks like when you're not taking every other corner sideways...
Ultra cool! Well done Toyota. BUT, for less than this GR86 Cup price you can by a 997 Cup Car which would dust the 86 Cup. Of course, your running costs on the 997 Cup would likely be A LOT more. It would be awesome to see the GR86 Cup vs the MX-5 Cup cars. Such a delimma, which one to go with...Stock BMW 128i for $8k it is lol.
Love this car in iRacing. It sounds the same!
What are the details on those rims? I'm completely smitten and want them for my 2023 brz
maybe bbs… thats what the other gr’s uses
TWS T66-F maybe. However, the wheels on this car seem to be designed a little differently than original design.
Way late reply but they are t66f pro spec . 16x7 I believe
Perhaps a stupid question but why does the car sound like that? It’s a very high pitched whine… no discernible engine or exhaust sound.
god i want that sequential transmission
I would love to have that sequential box in my 86 !!!
I wish Toyota would put a 3.5 v6 in this 86 chassis before everything goes electric
It wouldn’t do good on sales but that would be cool
@@hectorgarcia5004 You’re right it definitely wouldn’t sell very well except to a specific crowd
Love the sound
its the straight cut gears
The IS500 went missing lol 😆.
Lol. Why can’t they give him a cool
Helmet like the driver? 😂
This video would have benefited from some more info regarding the literal cost of entry into this series.
Sadly, when this was recorded Toyota was showing off the car but wasn’t sharing any pricing information.
@@TestDriveVideos Gotchya, thanks for the reply! (I have a feeling this is one of those, "if you have to ask, you probably can't afford it" situations.)
Car is about 120k, dont remember the other costs, something like 30k+
@@georgerosebush9754 Yeah, what bothers me about these videos is that it makes it seem like it could be affordable/attainable to buy a race car and go racing when the reality is that these kind of cars and series are out of reach financially for all but a handful of folks. That said, if anyone can actually find a regular GR86 at MSRP, doing track days is a relative bargain. But it's not racing either...
@Brian That’s bullshit you don’t know driver budgeting at all.
Super cool!
so sick
What spring rates do they use?
Whats the actual weight difference between this and the production model?
This one is way lighter and race built, so about almost 300-400kg difference
Is there a way to get the body parts if the cup car?
This channel is geared (no pun intended) towards car enthusiasts, right? So how the hell do people commenting not know what straight cut gears in a sequential box sound like?
what spoiler is that?
I wonder how many of those popped engines due to infamous right turn oil starvation problem.
sounds like straight cut gears
Thats what sequemtial boxes usually have....
First thing I noticed was no cold start, tuned out in ECU?
Yes, the high idle at cold start is to help catalytic converters warm up quicker, which is moot in the case of a racecar like this!
@@cdsprech hopefully we get tuning options soon!
We need the same setup in the automatic version with rev-matching.
no.
@@impreza0109 yes.
@@iQuattro1 🤣🤣🤣
Huh? No. This needs to be a proper H-Pattern cat.
What is that supercharger like whine ?
Straight-cut gears
That’s the transmission
That’s the transmission my boi, no superchargers in this sweet baby of a car
Anybody know why it sounds like a jet. Would that be an exhaust swap cause whatever it is I want it
Straight cut gears in the trans
@Everydaydriver does this 86 have a supercharger? Why does it sound like that?
No Supercharger. The whine is from the straight cut sequential transmission. Thanks for watching!
@@TestDriveVideos thank you for your entertaining and informative videos
Sounds like a Gazoo LFA with that trans 😁
If the engine is stock, what's the whining noise? I thought that was from a supercharger but I guess not😂
Gear box, straight cut gears
dog box
Question: why? The noise in shifter!
Because it’s sequential
Lyrics: eEeeEeEEEEeEE *brap* eeeeEeEeeEeEe rrrrrrrrrEEeEeeEeEeeE *brap* *brap* EEeEEEeeRReeEeEeEE eeEeEe rrrrrrrrrrrr EeEEeeeEee Eee *brap* brrrrr EeeEeEeEeeeeeeee EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Do they hire drivers or adopt them? 🤔
Pay
@@BarronBarcaand so pay up adoption 😂😂😂 nah jk jk, they pay them to adopt the cars
A terra missile😊
1 million? yeah sure i got that much under my couch.
Why don’t you guys ever bring your own helmets to these events?!
It's always struggle between other gear and a helmet. Helmets take up a lot of space in a checked bag or waste a carry-on, and we always have cameras that need to be carried on.
How do you get one?
buy it direct from toyota
And it’s way more money that you think, about 350-400 grand to pay
Oh man cant wait to see those engines start blowing on tv..
Is that common?
@@zinny999 on track is more common than it should but street cars are usually fine
@@gigi9467 It's a built motor
@@growingup4487 might last longer then lol
The inaugural round was last month and the cars all ran flawlessly
Shut ut when he's driving!
Foreal 😂🤣🤦🏽
It's a ride along, not a race
camera mounted too low
It’s on the dash, which is out of the drivers sight line so it’s place strategically where it doesn’t make a blind spot
Sounds like a lease car to me :) pretty cool set up but I am not that hard core. Nor rich for that matter.
With sequential why not have paddles vs useless stick…
It comes down to cost. Paddle shifters that have to be tuned through an ecu is more complex. Even the 2022 World Rally Cars WRC have moved back to a simplified single shifter
If you watch V8 supercars they also had to budget, because the ECU’s burnt out the engines because of tuning the engine to match the ECU for flappy paddles and that was a testing session, and just before the original Gen3 season, they switched back to the sequential, and it’s not your normal stick shift, it’s not H-pattern it’s push forward to go down and pull towards you to shift up,
Driver still in high school? Lol.
You would be surprised. Imsa has 16 year old race drivers lol
F1 drivers start in karts as kids
I looked him up and he's only 17! He races full time in ARCA and is the youngest driver to ever win a NASCAR sanctioned event, which he won at 15 years old.
When I make my 2nd million!
Trans sounds like it needs more metal shavings.
Lol, straight cut gears maybe?
That's the sound when an angel gets it's wings 😎
He talks way too much.
Racing exhaust, but sounds like Formula E
Thats the sequential box
that's how racing transmissions sound.
That is how a normal transmission sounds, should hear how loud Porsche cup cars & Porsche RSR’s and the new 992 GT3 spec car sounds
I think its so dumb that full on race cars have abs
I don't know...for me, a road racing beginner--sometimes spec miata racer, I wouldn't mind ABS to intervene if I'm about to flat-spot and ruin a set of expensive race tires!
@@ragweedmakesmesneeze definitely want to avoid as many potential learning experiences as possible.
Road car abs and race car abs are two different beasts. The racecar abs won't slow you down as much as its road goong counterpart
Probably an adjustable ABS unit with different levels of intervention. I wouldn't be surprised if you could turn it off completely
Shame the production model is having engine problems!!!
Stop talking
The guy talks too much
over take the Lexus loool. boy likes to talk some smack
Complete failure by Toyota on this one. Release a car and claim it can be used on the track…..then change all kinds of stuff. Even a whole new computer. Should have just been a cage, brake fluid, and oil cooler.
gotta pay to play 👍
That’s the thing with any racing, karting, 86’s, Motorcycle racing, it’s all pay to play, because you have to pay for every spare part if you’re a privateer out of your own pocket.
Look at a normal job, let’s say engineering, you may have a set of screws for a piece.
Those screws may not fit, you have to pay it out your own money to get the right ones, to make it work
Same goes for racing, you need all the spare parts accessible in order to enter in as a privateer so life is a pay to play in itself
Disappointed withe the sequential transmission, a proper race car should have a H pattern gearbox.
what? hahahah. If they're serious about being fast, which is what racing is, is to use a sequential, cuz it is by far the fastest. H pattern is only more fun.
H pattern in a modern car, nah, these are drivers who have never driven H-pattern in their life for the most part, so giving them a sequential is a quicker learning phase
Sequential shift through gears quicker via engine cut, which means for a split second the engine cuts out so the gear can be moved up with ease, not like H-patterns where sometimes you have to ride the clutch until the car comes to the right revs which in some cars can take 1-2 seconds, engine cut only takes about a thousandth of a second if not faster than that so the gears are smoother
@neozone_hyrax.raw.
With H pattern transmission you have to blip the throttle and rev match while breaking and that takes lots of talent and practice.
Sequential gearbox, specially those with auto blip and ecu controled reve matching is too easy. Maybe I need To get my aaarrrsss in one of these for next season.
An Elantra n would beat this track prepped 86. 😂
We're curious how you know that...
in anything other than a straight line? um no....
@@TestDriveVideos just having some fun with ya. Still, if you’re going to do all that work making it a track car, do the engine as well. IMO, just leave the 86 stock.
@@TML34 I don't think you get how this works
@@supraJZA80s I don’t think you get my point. This isn’t a race car no matter how much suspension, brakes and gearbox you throw at it. It’s too novice, too slow and it’s still not going to be cheap. As a track learning tool it’s great but as a racing series, it’s has zero appeal to me.