Jaska Raatikainen recently shared a funny story about this song: When they were recording this back in the 90's, he had problems with insane 200bpm tempo and double bass parts in the studio. After many failed attempts, the frustrated drummer turned to Alexi Laiho and asked him if they could possibly reduce the tempo because he felt it was impossible to get the double bass right. Alexi was very strict about the arrangement as usual and refused to make any changes, but after long and exhausting negotiations he finally gave up and agreed to drop the tempo all the way to... 199 bpm. He told Jaska that was all the help he was gonna get, so Jaska had no chance but to raise his playing to the next level and eventually he nailed the song . Says a lot about the integrity and passion of the band at that time when they were still pretty much kids.
This band is always in my heart and soul. COBHC for fkn life!! So heartbroken they are breaking up💔💔😔 Thank you COB for amazing Music through the years. 🙏🏼
All a matter of techique. If you lack technique, it's like a sprint where you try to not fail because your concentration is needed for the physical aspect. If your technique is good, its doesn't feel like that at all. Notice how those drummers have their shoulders relatively tucked in an relaxed, playing from their wrists and fingers (as well as their ankles regarding the bassdrum). Once you can smoothly control your sticks no matter what joints you play from and switch back and forth it's rather relaxed. Coming from a Self-Taught drummer who has been in the "sprint" phase way too long until he figuered it might help to work on his technique...
@@op1095 I've got Are you Dead yet and I worship Chaos in my car that have been playing non stop......Live in Stockholm is always going to be my favorite live album, that and the one in Tokyo \m/
Hatebreeder a mi parecer fue uno de los mejores álbum que sacaron estos muchachos para que darle vueltas al asunto, valoremos a las bandas que nos han hecho escuchar buena música de calidad
Yall ppl commenting on why he has another bass drum yet doesn't use it obviously must not be drummers. Its there in case the main one bust hello lol. Its like having a spare tire in case of a flat plus it looks awesome for a metal show \m/_
He uses a drum rack so no Tom holding there. The 2nd bass drum is mainly for good looking. You also don't have to tune both of your bassdrums since he plays without triggers
Asics Matflex 3 Wrestling shoes. Very light & flat gum grip underneath. Asics changed the model since though, so I don't think that you can find the exact same model anymore.
@@NightwishArena I don't even remember commenting this. I'm still blown away by his death. He was the one that made me pick up the guitar in the first place.
Almost no bands today use two kick drums with two pedals, but bring the other one as an aesthetic thing (like the empty Marshall stacks for example). Why would you bother tuning two kick drums the same every damn show when it's literally almost impossible, and makes no change in the sound for the better?
I beg to differ Ive always noticed a difference in my own playing atleast , as far as tuning the key is not to match the bass drums the thunder comes from alternating tuning. Also in an area of everyone shrinking kits its nice to see the quad toms 2 on the floor and set of canons at the ready.
Idk, but as a drummer I can confirm 2 kicks will always feel more natural than a double pedal. idk if its a lag thing, or feeling the hit in each foot evenly, but yea
@@spudmagnum7394 Setting up the double pedal right is almost as shit as tuning two bass drums, especially since you have a lot tools for tuning nowadays. The left pedal always feels off for me.
@@pascalschulz5894 I agree. People get a little too anal about tuning drums. Once you've done it enough times it takes 2 mins max. Dealing with the sound guy can be a pain tho ahahaha
Does he and Kai Hahto know each other? Both seem to have a similar style of drumming. At least I hear many elements that are similar when I listen to Kai.
I think jaska has faster and simple fills.. Kai has pretty fast fills too but those fills that Kai plays are big brain fills. Ok most of nighwish fills that kai plays are write by jukka but..
I've only seen videos of Jaska playing with a double kick slave/pedals on a single bass drum. The 2nd one is probably a spare in case of puncture of the head. It's faster to switch a spare bass drum than to change a broken head during a Live show. Looks of double bass drums is also more rad, of course. As for the double pedals, I've seen him use: Pearl Power shifter (very old black & white video), Pearl P2052C Eliminator double chain with blue cam and in this one, he's using the Pearl P3002D Eliminator Demon direct drive, I think...
Aaron I do that also! I like the feel of 2 bass drums on my kit, makes it easier for me to figure out where everything goes when I take it down and set up. I attach the slave pedal to the other bass drum so it pretty much feels like you’re playing both kicks. Also it’s easier to get an even sound so you don’t have to worry about having to tune both absolutely perfect... unless you’re triggering
Keeps an even tone on the kicks, rather than having 2 drums that can detune unevenly during the show. The second bass drum is just there to hold up the extra toms.
He's a great drummer, but he could benefit greatly from practicing with a metronome a couple of minutes a day. Bpms are all over the place... specially on fills.
Um how about no? Being always metronome correct is literally a trend in modern metal, most bands would never record an album to a metronome but to their drummer who would record first (with the guitarist playing into his ear instead of the metronome). Examples - Slayer, Slipknot, and even Meshuggah on a couple of songs. Having groove and being human is now considered "being all over the place". Fuck your BPM bullshit, go play to a drum machine then.
Wether you record with a metronome or not, it's good to practice with one to improve your own sense of timing. Speeding up in fills is not "having groove" it's a well known bad habit among drummers.
Love this guy. One of the most underrated metal drummers out there.
I definite agree with you, he is a beast on it, in fact all COB songs require a good and fast drums playing
Agreed!!!!
in case somebody needs a drum score - ruclips.net/video/yBLUcQhdOpw/видео.html
Jaska Raatikainen recently shared a funny story about this song: When they were recording this back in the 90's, he had problems with insane 200bpm tempo and double bass parts in the studio. After many failed attempts, the frustrated drummer turned to Alexi Laiho and asked him if they could possibly reduce the tempo because he felt it was impossible to get the double bass right. Alexi was very strict about the arrangement as usual and refused to make any changes, but after long and exhausting negotiations he finally gave up and agreed to drop the tempo all the way to... 199 bpm. He told Jaska that was all the help he was gonna get, so Jaska had no chance but to raise his playing to the next level and eventually he nailed the song . Says a lot about the integrity and passion of the band at that time when they were still pretty much kids.
Drums that sound like drums!
This band is always in my heart and soul. COBHC for fkn life!! So heartbroken they are breaking up💔💔😔 Thank you COB for amazing Music through the years. 🙏🏼
Their Masterpiece ♥ ♥ ♥
one of the best drummer ! definitely !
Legendary time to live in COBHC era ....
carry on
for Alexi you guys are the best us fans love yas rip Alexi He is sorely missed my favourite heavy metal guitarist in the world
Brilliant!!!!
Holy shit! Thats physical!
All a matter of techique. If you lack technique, it's like a sprint where you try to not fail because your concentration is needed for the physical aspect. If your technique is good, its doesn't feel like that at all. Notice how those drummers have their shoulders relatively tucked in an relaxed, playing from their wrists and fingers (as well as their ankles regarding the bassdrum). Once you can smoothly control your sticks no matter what joints you play from and switch back and forth it's rather relaxed. Coming from a Self-Taught drummer who has been in the "sprint" phase way too long until he figuered it might help to work on his technique...
ai meu deus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! obrigado por postar demais!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Adoro esses videos de Jaska. Ele toca muiiiito bem 🔥🔥🔥🔥
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Anyone else finding it difficult to listen and watch Children of Bodem after Alexi's death? Or just me? I'm still fawking reeling from that shit.
💔
feel like shit ..
I've been listening to it nearly non-stop after his passing.
@@op1095 I've got Are you Dead yet and I worship Chaos in my car that have been playing non stop......Live in Stockholm is always going to be my favorite live album, that and the one in Tokyo \m/
Yeah it's hard. Will the band continue or will they disband since he's gone ?
jaska the best ...
Jaska is better than any popular drummers out there
Stopped following them years ago, but damn can they write a tasty groove.
Круто! Орск слушает!
I'm also a drummer and i have a shoes just like him that gives me a chance to kick drum bass just like he did...hell yeah
The technique doesn´t come with the shoes, lol....
Hatebreeder a mi parecer fue uno de los mejores álbum que sacaron estos muchachos para que darle vueltas al asunto, valoremos a las bandas que nos han hecho escuchar buena música de calidad
De acuerdo contigo. Mi favorito de COB es FOLLOW THE REAPER. Riffs, solos y letras inigualables. 🤘😎🤘
También estoy de acuerdo contigo, mi álbum favorito de COB es 'Hate Crew Deathroll'. Riffs progresivos y canciones brillantes. Qué gran álbum! 💥
Yall ppl commenting on why he has another bass drum yet doesn't use it obviously must not be drummers. Its there in case the main one bust hello lol. Its like having a spare tire in case of a flat plus it looks awesome for a metal show \m/_
Lol no it's just for looks like the empty Marshall stacks on some shows.
What is that orange tape or what on the hoops? for what purpose?
Visual reference for when the lights go down.
@@manwiththemoves thx for the answer 😁
he looks like and old keanu reeves
I think Keanu is older than him :D
Fuckin legend
Look at Jaskas face after alexi sings Something like "whatching my self in ckheieiii" 3:00 looks like he is just laughing for it 😂
He is saying watching my self decaying
ahaha second bass drum is just a cosmetic nice one XD i like that idea
usually because of no need for tune both
It would look stupid if this kind of drummer had only one bass drum. Jaska never uses the second one.
@@lartza5624 It wouldn't look stupid, also have you seen Stockholm Knockout 2006? He used only one and it didn't look any less better.
Weird, he has 2 bass drums but a double pedal, so the one on his left isn't used. It's basically there for looks and to hold a tom?
He uses a drum rack so no Tom holding there. The 2nd bass drum is mainly for good looking. You also don't have to tune both of your bassdrums since he plays without triggers
does anyone knows about his shoes?? i know they're acics, but can't find de model, thanks =(
Asics Matflex 3 Wrestling shoes. Very light & flat gum grip underneath. Asics changed the model since though, so I don't think that you can find the exact same model anymore.
Since he's playing on a double-bass pedal, what is he using the other bass drum for ?
Room for more Toms and cymbals
And for good look
And you have a kick ready to go if the main batter head goes out.
Well bass drum head usually never breaks
@@FacsTwo you're wrong. Mine breaks frequenttly
Drums: Pearl Drums
22" x 18" Bass Drum (MMP2218BX/B)
What does the B stand for???
Bobs and vagene
Birch I believe
for BBBAAASSSSSS
It stand for black hardware ;-)
Although Alexi has become sloppier over the years, this was a pretty solid performance
he's become much cleaner these past years since he stopped drinking while touring
Yes. Drinking and all injuries took their share, but he was getting better on his last years.
@@NightwishArena I don't even remember commenting this. I'm still blown away by his death. He was the one that made me pick up the guitar in the first place.
Almost no bands today use two kick drums with two pedals, but bring the other one as an aesthetic thing (like the empty Marshall stacks for example). Why would you bother tuning two kick drums the same every damn show when it's literally almost impossible, and makes no change in the sound for the better?
I beg to differ Ive always noticed a difference in my own playing atleast , as far as tuning the key is not to match the bass drums the thunder comes from alternating tuning. Also in an area of everyone shrinking kits its nice to see the quad toms 2 on the floor and set of canons at the ready.
A lot of metal drummers actually use the 2 kick drums but a lot of them use triggers these days so tuning doesn’t really matter
Idk, but as a drummer I can confirm 2 kicks will always feel more natural than a double pedal. idk if its a lag thing, or feeling the hit in each foot evenly, but yea
@@spudmagnum7394 Setting up the double pedal right is almost as shit as tuning two bass drums, especially since you have a lot tools for tuning nowadays. The left pedal always feels off for me.
@@pascalschulz5894 I agree. People get a little too anal about tuning drums. Once you've done it enough times it takes 2 mins max. Dealing with the sound guy can be a pain tho ahahaha
Does he and Kai Hahto know each other? Both seem to have a similar style of drumming. At least I hear many elements that are similar when I listen to Kai.
I think jaska has faster and simple fills.. Kai has pretty fast fills too but those fills that Kai plays are big brain fills. Ok most of nighwish fills that kai plays are write by jukka but..
@@jakettaja6302 I found a vid both playing together. But I think it also possible that they just share an interest in jazz.
@@steves.6918 yeah kai has played a lot off jazz back in da day
@@jakettaja6302 idk, I'd say Kai is the faster one of These two.
Go listen Enochian Crescent Telocvovim album, Hahto’s drum tracks there is sick AF
And nevermind that intro, its a funny contrast
in case somebody needs a drum score - ruclips.net/video/yBLUcQhdOpw/видео.html
I’m confused. He has two bass drums, but a pedal setup for single bass? Or am I just blind and not seeing it?
I've only seen videos of Jaska playing with a double kick slave/pedals on a single bass drum. The 2nd one is probably a spare in case of puncture of the head. It's faster to switch a spare bass drum than to change a broken head during a Live show. Looks of double bass drums is also more rad, of course. As for the double pedals, I've seen him use: Pearl Power shifter (very old black & white video), Pearl P2052C Eliminator double chain with blue cam and in this one, he's using the Pearl P3002D Eliminator Demon direct drive, I think...
Who thumbed down?
A frustrated drummer for sure
How??? HOW??????!!!! HE IS A ROBOT?
Jaska varmaan Suomen 1 parhaimpia rumpaleita..Meitsi diggaa!!
He has 6 feet!
Love how he has two kick drums, yet only plays one with a double pedal 😅
why double bass sound low ?
Jesus!!!!
BMF
Paras biisi
Baker 3
He has 2 bass drums but is playing on a double pedal.. wtf?
Aaron I do that also! I like the feel of 2 bass drums on my kit, makes it easier for me to figure out where everything goes when I take it down and set up. I attach the slave pedal to the other bass drum so it pretty much feels like you’re playing both kicks. Also it’s easier to get an even sound so you don’t have to worry about having to tune both absolutely perfect... unless you’re triggering
Don't get it.2 kicks with double pedal.just don't get it.nice playing regardless.
Keeps an even tone on the kicks, rather than having 2 drums that can detune unevenly during the show.
The second bass drum is just there to hold up the extra toms.
Not to mention, you have a kick ready to go if the batter head goes out.
Ryan Fullerton he uses a rack so the second kick drum doesn’t hold toms! Just for looks
Ясик, сбрей пжст, бороду - ты в ней, аки бомж. Без бороды гораздо лучше смотрится.
Who are these 10 guys here??? 😑
The deaf and blind ones i think or worst the ignorant ones. 😂😅
not super good, he misses a lot of bassdrum in this one
Damn...they mustve been boozing hard...the guitar parts are fuckin sloppy in a few parts
Why does the guitar sound like the player is dead drunk? Super sloppy!
because he is dead drunk
@@sexypoulpe I thought he stopped drinking, lol.
it's just not recorded well...it usually isn't with CoBs live shows, but when you're actually there it sounds much much better
@@AgeofJP No, it's just sloppy as fuck. Muting all over the place.
He's a great drummer, but he could benefit greatly from practicing with a metronome a couple of minutes a day. Bpms are all over the place... specially on fills.
Um how about no? Being always metronome correct is literally a trend in modern metal, most bands would never record an album to a metronome but to their drummer who would record first (with the guitarist playing into his ear instead of the metronome). Examples - Slayer, Slipknot, and even Meshuggah on a couple of songs. Having groove and being human is now considered "being all over the place". Fuck your BPM bullshit, go play to a drum machine then.
Wether you record with a metronome or not, it's good to practice with one to improve your own sense of timing. Speeding up in fills is not "having groove" it's a well known bad habit among drummers.
FIRST play on a legendary band like COB. THEN talk, kid...
@@YonyGut1MakesMetalCovers great logic. I bet Lars and Ringo are your favorite drummers 👍🏼
@@gp19 Great logic by saying those things about me WITHOUT KNOWING ME. Hahaha. No, my favourite drummer is GO-FAK UR SELF 😅😅😅
Baker 3