There’s a difference between acute muscle pain and chronic pain; and between specific pain from an injured muscle like a pulled muscle or overall condition like Fibromyalgia. The relaxers are used for different purposes and therapy as well as chiropractic may or may not help for the medical issue. For my Fibro/IC I need the relaxer so I don’t have to use pain relievers very often. I also use massage therapy, chiropractic and therapy to help my body and mind. So yes, I’m a “lifer” with great doctors.
These guys are legit amazing human beings and quite frankly best content makers of physiotherapy material. So much knowledge is pushed into their videos, and literally if people followed at least 25% of what Bob and Brad suggests - they would extremely likely walk pain free. Like in this podcast, they called this pharmacists guest to essentially highlight that physiotherapy is the best way to live pain free and not to push medication use without a good reason. I really appreciate this type of honest work.
Wish I had this information when I herniated 3 lumbar discs and began having muscle spasms in 1992 and could have actually healed. Been through years of PT, acupuncture, TENS, ice, heat, prescriptions, microsurgery, nothing able to get pain below a 5 in 20 years, (and most days is 8) still have muscle spasms and have just accepted that I will always be in pain and will never be whole or functional again.
I cant even believe that they even try us on those TENS machines. I went crazy at them trying to tell me that a tens machine isnt a glorified muscle contractor. People use them as the lazy way to get mostly abs so the electric makes the muscles contact rather than you do it in the gym. Thats all a tens machine is. Ibtold them they may as well spat in my face giving me that shite for even a try when the thing islts self isnt even actully proved to do anything for pain. And when i say pain i mean real chronic pain. Wste if time and money and horrible for the patient making them wait to try real thingd that work. Im bow waitng on baclofen. I have damaged discs in my backz dehydrated ones in my neck. Steriod injections work great because steroids work. But medcial companys wouldnt make money of we got better 1st go. Cant wait to try baclofen. Fingers crossed.
What's fun is when you're on these meds for so long the side effects no longer affect you, but the meds still do what they are supposed to. With my MS, chronic sciatica, and herniated disc (L5/S1), I've been on Baclofen for close to 18 years and Zanaflex for at least 10 years. I'm also on a plethora of other meds that are supposed to make you sleepy, but because I've been on them for so long, I no longer get that particular side effect. What I take on a daily basis would probably knock a "normal" person out for days, if not half kill them. Ahhh, the "beauty" of being chronically ill...
Wow I thought I was alone. Chronic pain does end up increasing the tolerance level of our bodies. And personally I avoid medications due to the fact that they deteriorate the organs on a long term. BUT SEEING UR CMNT CLAIMS A WHOLE NEW LEVEL. IMPRESSIVE
I have Cyclobenzaprine. It will knock me out for two days. Even half the pill. So I only use it if I have over exerted myself. Physical therapy is my best friend. I have Fibromyalgia. The exercises help me function.
I took 5 mgs once for a buzz, because I'm a user of alcohol and opioids (AKA I like downers), and it was the worst idea I ever made. you feel like shit for the entire next day after and even that's still not nearly as bad as how you feel while on it. it's like a shitty benadryl buzz mixed In with a low dose of Dextromethorphan (over the counter drugs that I abused as a teen), I will stick with my alcohol and opioids...they ruin me but at least I feel good while they ruin me. This cyclobenzaprine stuff seems like it not only has the potential to totally ruin a person but you won't even enjoy being on it. so much better ideas for muscle relaxation.
Ideally, physical therapy SHOULD be the go to method for relief from muscle spasms and injury but our fast paced society does not allow a person to take the time need to allow the body to repair. Therefore the quick fix pharmaceutical is employed to facilitate a person to keep moving and productions. It’s a conundrum. Unfortunately perpetuation of quick fix drugs (that aren’t a real fix) is profitable for several industries. End result? An entire population of walking wounded.
Any opioids pain meds , eventually your body builds tolerance, almost ineffective for me now…but there aren’t many options after max dosage allows….withdrawals pain is just as excruciating . So don’t bother to increase dosages 😢.
I just need a short term get-out-of-pain so i know i can breathe! I have never abused opiates! I stay home, dont drive or work! I am the perfect candidate for opiates!
@@LydiaStarz The don’t allow pain killers but allow enough fentynal over the border to kill every person in the US multiple times over. Not to mention they are now combining in fentynal a drug that makes NARCAN not work.
Have you found anything that works? I have neck tension ans muscle knots on my traps. I've only been given muscle relaxers (they do nothing), and PT. PT only makes the pain go away for a little
@@tyanag9938 the only thing I do during the daytime for the pain is rest periods and stretches that I found very helpful here on RUclips. But at night when it's sleepy time I won't sleep because I can't relax My shoulders and just hurts to turn or get comfortable. So that's when I take my muscle relaxer pretty much it's just that I can relax enough to sleep. Tylenol is the only pain medicine that I take because of my stomach problems and I can't really take much of that at all. I wished I had a better answer for you but really look into the stretches on here because they do work surprisingly!
Disagree. That's how muscle relaxants are in my experience-- effective while you're on them, but the day after you stop taking them, you're down again. Physical therapy takes commitment, but will eventually get you healed. They have it right in this video-- drugs to get you functioning when you're in the worst of it, physical therapy to get you healed up.
I was prescribed muscle relaxants for fibromyalgia caused by the trauma of a c-section. I hated them. I was so sleepy. Being half asleep all day doesn't work with 4 kids! I went to a chiropractor and he helped realign my neck and back. Then an occupational therapist who helped me with myofacial release. I started an exercise program with stretching geared toward fibromyalgia. 21 years later I still have fibro. I still have pain. But I am able to go through life without muscle relaxants, or prescription pain meds (so far). My advice is always to try all the other modalities and therapies before the pills. No shame in using them, but they just come with their own problems.
Thank You for sharing your experience. When I tried to get as much therapy as I possibly can, my public aid insurance refused to pay for my extended therapy.
@@boostmobile5326 That can be a huge problem. I'm sorry you went through that. I was really happy that my chiropractor offered a cash (no insurance) fee that was cheaper. Not all services do that.
I have sciatic pain I been told muscle relaxers can be addictive. I am recovering addict can't afford be addictive. Physical therapy best for me help me strengthen and stretch to help me get better. Muscle relaxers are just and band aid physical therapy is the healthier way to get better. I hate feeling groggy and recovering addict I am scared I may get addictive I would relapse. I agree to the pharmacist it's best physical therapy helps stretch strengthen your core. I will be seeing my doctor soon ask to get in again with a physical therapist. I love Bob and Brad helped me so much when I had knee replacement. I never taken pain pills I recovered well like I said I am in recovering worked too long and hard not going backwards.
Thank you so much for this video. I was in a car accident and currently have a flare up. I don't like how the medication makes me feel so it's good to know there's other options.
I have osteoarthritis in both knees but the right side is in constant pain whether sitting, standing, walking and even while I'm asleep. I can go to the doctor, run errands, or go to the store and when I get home, my muscles will be so sore and I will catch bad cramps while sleeping and during waking hours the next day. I drink tons of water and take magnesium so I know I'm not dehydrated. But I will take a muscle spasm pill (methocarbomal) to relax the muscles and try to reduce the chance of having cramping in my legs, feet and sometimes back.
My Mom’s left knee is bone on bone and pinching the nerves really bad. Tylenol helps to a certain degree but we would like to figure out a better solution
The Beers List was an important advance, but there is nothing magic physiologically about the age of 65. It’s really a continuum of increasing adverse effects with age, and I write this as a pharmacoepidemiologist and clinical trials doc.
I’ve been on max dose flexerall for over 10 yrs I’m 5 ft 6 110 lbs so under weight a little bit But since I am trying to quit this I can’t maintain I am losing more weight. I didn’t think I was addicted because I could skip a day but found out I start to feel bad wo it after 2 days
If the pain is caused by muscle tension then yes. Muscle relaxants can even be used for certain types of headaches. Especially ones that involve tension in the neck. The headache is typically caused by muscle tension. So muscle relaxants usually do well to diminish the headache's effects
I can tell when the pain is building and not responding to stretches/exercises. I take Flexural in a low dose to help with sleep for a couple of days. If not enough, I’ll see the chiropractor. Twice I had to go to emergency because the spasms/pain was dangerously ramping up my blood pressure.
I take flexerile too ,,when im in extreme pain...so long as its managed well...if I take too much it makes me hot and I can't wake up..so I split up my pill
@@annafantastic1115 I have a really low dose. 30mg. I can max it to 3 doses per day. I’ve only had to do that three times (incl. the 2 times I went to emergency.) Usually the 30mg. before bed will get me to sleep. I rarely need to stay on Flexural for more than a few days. The chiropractor will do deep massages and careful adjustments when I need them.
Same here. With my hEDS, Dercum's Disease, Degenerative Discs, etc... That sounds like a good combo. I'm on Cyclobenzaprime and Alprazolam. But your combo would work better for me.
Muscle relaxers make my pain worse. I was taking it for chronic leg spasms and severe leg cramps and RLS. The pain is so bad my legs actually jerk up off of the bed, and my feet turn in. It lasts for 10-12 hours, constant agony.
Yes I agree with you. My only desires is to get as much therapy as possible but the public aid insurance only pays and approves limited physical therapy sessions and I hate muscle relaxers because they give me a head ache and feeling hanged over.
What about those whom have chronic pain? I have been in PT for 5+ years (I’m only allowed to see 3 pts in the state). I can not get pain meds, my body declines, I have been prescribed Flexeril for years, it still helps. Most get a sprain I have to push through it. You should have mentioned the “hangover” from flexeril in the morning after.
I’ve done physical therapy, yoga, acupuncture, chiropractor, tens unit, massage, kinesiotherapy, meds, creams, decompression, ice, heat, foam rolling, shoe insoles, diet, hyperbaric oxygen, epidural. I don’t have nerve problems so they won’t do surgery. And none of that stuff works. I don’t know what to do. It’s causing my mental health to plummet.
Very heLpful. I exercise daily but have herniated disc and now pinched nerve in neck.I do PT but its not working. My sciatic leg getting worse so I take forceful 2 or 3 times a week. I don't want to but the pain is severe
Me to, I took one for my first time at 31 years old two days ago and let me tell u I popped it and within 30 mins to a hour I was walking into the hallway and passed out my brother picked me up and I was out for hours then woke up like wtf and I'm a high cannabis consumer so this shi right here is no joke I have the 10 mg cycleobenzapr
I agree , it seems as though they made the muscles in more pain, I haven’t felt comfortable ever since the injection of Toradol, I’m being waken up out my sleep early morning trying to massage the pain away but it doesn’t help at all. It’s going on two weeks now. I believe I just only need a strong pain medication
I get tingling up my neck which depending on how I move my head, makes me a little light headed. I do have tight muscles along my upper shoulders. Also a knot (like a ball), in my left shoulder that when I move my head at a upward angle from left , there's a shooting sharp stabbing pain that travels from the knot, up my neck , to my forehead giving me a 20 sec head rush or migraine. This is all due to my job which is repetitive motion and I'm in one spot all day. It's cause I don't move that much so my muscle tighten up. Couple of times I moved too soon and I hear a crunch noise. Kinda like I released the tightness in my neck. I do feel a little bit better afterwards that's how I know that's the problem.
Anti-inflammatories and muscle relaxers are not suppose to be used long term! Long term use causes major damage to organs and muscles can waste. 5 -7 days he says and he is right! Not long term!
Oh sorry maybe I missed this if you are on muscle relaxers because of pain for example from fibromyalgia, and you have a physical job does the med make you more prone to injury. I know you said it spasms as a over protection from an injury, but for instance I'm not sure I hurt myself. Maybe I just over did it.. with fibromyalgia sometimes it doesn't take much.
My Muscle Relaxers helps relax tone in my hand. I take the muscle relaxer only at night, because it will put you to sleep. Daytime, I don't because it turns into a disaster.
I’m taking Flexeril currently 3 times a day 5mg for sciatica (I’m using a walker and can’t stand at all.) It helps a little bit, but I definitely sleep constantly. I’m 35 weeks pregnant with my 3rd baby. I’m miserable 😩
I’m so sorry to hear that you’re going through this while pregnant. I feel your pain and you are not alone. I am having a severe sciatica flare up due to a herniated disc and started taking Flexeril 3 days ago to help me sleep through the night. I’m also using a walker and I’m only 37 years old. I’m way too young to be having these issues yet here we are. I will pray that we both get some relief soon and can sleep through the night.
I'm on zanaflex tizandine for years now but I also have OSTEPETROSIS a one out of 500,000 people have it. I'm that one. Muscles ache especially in my back n neck. Yes bad car wrecks too. Plz pry God/JESUS will heal me soon n SUPERNATURALLY I've laid on heating pads alot just to get off it n it starts back. I have herniated disc also. Lordy I wish I could get some of y'alls massage therapy.
PS my bone marrow disease is going to turn into bone cancer signs are already started. I need a bone marrow and FAST ! I need a great healthy person to donate for me. They say it could help my pain n my life span. My bones stay fractured alot n breakeasy.
I love my chiropractor! A chiropractor can get you back in alignment when/if your back "goes out" and a physical therapist can teach you stretching and muscle strengthening to KEEP you in alignment. You could have weak abdominal muscles, for example, that could be stressing your back muscles. The important thing I tell people is to find a "straight" chiropractor, in other words, one that doesn't twist your back to align it... that is hard on the discs.
I have Trigeminal Neuralgia I had a side effects from carbamazepine that definitely worked for it. I now take baclofen that seems to be helping so far. Crossing my fingers. Trigeminal neuralgia for those who don’t know use to be caused the suicide disease back in the day. In the face and head.
I definitely think that’s true for most of them, especially flexaril. However, I’m pretty sure that soma is a true muscle relaxant. Fact check that though, don’t take my word on it.
Ok so I have scoliosis, and the doctor gave me cyclobenzaprine twice. And it doesn’t seem to be numbing my spine I just feel a lil sleepy. But I had got an OxyContin from a good friend, and it numb my back. I really feel like im out of options, im waiting to get a scheduled date for my orthopedic so they can check my back and im thinking ima have to get surgery. My pain is out of this work I never felt nun like this. I literally lay and bed all day and feel a lil hopeless cus I can’t do anything. But like I said oxy’s worked. Should ask my doctor for the oxy’s ?
Diazepam works for hiatus hernia and muscle pain, my nerve pain and bowel pains I’ve still undiagnosed. Quality over quantity bc I’m ready for revenge for the torture I’ve endured for 7 years in the UK.
Does 5 m of valium help get thru Stretches. My PT lady said i needed to take it to help me relax. I just had bicept surgery 6 wks ago with frozen shoulder.
@@trulyrblessed yes but the meds are strong . I continue to stay active the symptoms go away while on the meds but I am now off them and have lesser intense episodes . I am trying cold plunges and neck adjustments next. Something’s has got to give
@@ebsrok6681 did you have any side effects from the meds ? I’ve just been prescribed a steroid and muscle relaxer. I haven’t had any relief from the steroids but it’s only been a week. I’m about to start the muscle relaxers and I have a appointment for a massage. I have the same pain as you. It’s so painful especially the arm and fingers. Praying we both find relief soon.
Alcohol dehydrates your body and dehydration definitely causes muscle cramps. It may have something to do with the potassium, calcium, sodium and magnesium balance in your body as well.
There’s a difference between acute muscle pain and chronic pain; and between specific pain from an injured muscle like a pulled muscle or overall condition like Fibromyalgia. The relaxers are used for different purposes and therapy as well as chiropractic may or may not help for the medical issue. For my Fibro/IC I need the relaxer so I don’t have to use pain relievers very often. I also use massage therapy, chiropractic and therapy to help my body and mind. So yes, I’m a “lifer” with great doctors.
These guys are legit amazing human beings and quite frankly best content makers of physiotherapy material. So much knowledge is pushed into their videos, and literally if people followed at least 25% of what Bob and Brad suggests - they would extremely likely walk pain free. Like in this podcast, they called this pharmacists guest to essentially highlight that physiotherapy is the best way to live pain free and not to push medication use without a good reason. I really appreciate this type of honest work.
Wish I had this information when I herniated 3 lumbar discs and began having muscle spasms in 1992 and could have actually healed. Been through years of PT, acupuncture, TENS, ice, heat, prescriptions, microsurgery, nothing able to get pain below a 5 in 20 years, (and most days is 8) still have muscle spasms and have just accepted that I will always be in pain and will never be whole or functional again.
😥😥😥😥😥same here omg
I cant even believe that they even try us on those TENS machines. I went crazy at them trying to tell me that a tens machine isnt a glorified muscle contractor. People use them as the lazy way to get mostly abs so the electric makes the muscles contact rather than you do it in the gym. Thats all a tens machine is. Ibtold them they may as well spat in my face giving me that shite for even a try when the thing islts self isnt even actully proved to do anything for pain. And when i say pain i mean real chronic pain. Wste if time and money and horrible for the patient making them wait to try real thingd that work.
Im bow waitng on baclofen. I have damaged discs in my backz dehydrated ones in my neck. Steriod injections work great because steroids work. But medcial companys wouldnt make money of we got better 1st go.
Cant wait to try baclofen. Fingers crossed.
I hope you're feeling a bit better these days, Shelly ❤
What's fun is when you're on these meds for so long the side effects no longer affect you, but the meds still do what they are supposed to. With my MS, chronic sciatica, and herniated disc (L5/S1), I've been on Baclofen for close to 18 years and Zanaflex for at least 10 years. I'm also on a plethora of other meds that are supposed to make you sleepy, but because I've been on them for so long, I no longer get that particular side effect. What I take on a daily basis would probably knock a "normal" person out for days, if not half kill them. Ahhh, the "beauty" of being chronically ill...
a trick: watch series on flixzone. Me and my gf have been using it for watching a lot of movies recently.
@Harvey Caiden definitely, I have been using flixzone for since november myself :)
@Harvey Caiden Definitely, been watching on Flixzone for since november myself :)
How much sclerosis do you have
Wow I thought I was alone. Chronic pain does end up increasing the tolerance level of our bodies. And personally I avoid medications due to the fact that they deteriorate the organs on a long term. BUT SEEING UR CMNT CLAIMS A WHOLE NEW LEVEL. IMPRESSIVE
I don't take them unless I'm in big pain. They make you tired into the next day...I just want to stay in bed.
I read.that robaxin causes less sleepiness but it upsets my stomach
I have Cyclobenzaprine. It will knock me out for two days. Even half the pill. So I only use it if I have over exerted myself. Physical therapy is my best friend. I have Fibromyalgia. The exercises help me function.
Thanks you just help me figure out why I cant wake up doc gave me cyclobenzaprine i took it yesterday it knock me out all day today
Thanks you just help me figure out why I cant wake up doc gave me cyclobenzaprine i took it yesterday it knock me out all day today
I took 5 mgs once for a buzz, because I'm a user of alcohol and opioids (AKA I like downers), and it was the worst idea I ever made. you feel like shit for the entire next day after and even that's still not nearly as bad as how you feel while on it. it's like a shitty benadryl buzz mixed In with a low dose of Dextromethorphan (over the counter drugs that I abused as a teen), I will stick with my alcohol and opioids...they ruin me but at least I feel good while they ruin me. This cyclobenzaprine stuff seems like it not only has the potential to totally ruin a person but you won't even enjoy being on it. so much better ideas for muscle relaxation.
Ideally, physical therapy SHOULD be the go to method for relief from muscle spasms and injury but our fast paced society does not allow a person to take the time need to allow the body to repair. Therefore the quick fix pharmaceutical is employed to facilitate a person to keep moving and productions. It’s a conundrum. Unfortunately perpetuation of quick fix drugs (that aren’t a real fix) is profitable for several industries. End result? An entire population of walking wounded.
So eloquently put! Made me really think
Thank you!!!
They don't stop pain. Why won't they prescribe pain killers ? And Ibuprofen and Tylenol is useless for severe pain.
Pain killers? Do you mean opiates?
Any opioids pain meds , eventually your body builds tolerance, almost ineffective for me now…but there aren’t many options after max dosage allows….withdrawals pain is just as excruciating . So don’t bother to increase dosages 😢.
I just need a short term get-out-of-pain so i know i can breathe! I have never abused opiates! I stay home, dont drive or work! I am the perfect candidate for opiates!
@@LydiaStarz i hear you.. i am in same mode years..its inhumane!!! 💙🙏✨
@@LydiaStarz The don’t allow pain killers but allow enough fentynal over the border to kill every person in the US multiple times over. Not to mention they are now combining in fentynal a drug that makes NARCAN not work.
Been taking them for years for Neck tension, muscle knots and esophageal spasms.. too many stomach issues to take any type pain killer
Have you found anything that works? I have neck tension ans muscle knots on my traps. I've only been given muscle relaxers (they do nothing), and PT. PT only makes the pain go away for a little
@@tyanag9938 the only thing I do during the daytime for the pain is rest periods and stretches that I found very helpful here on RUclips. But at night when it's sleepy time I won't sleep because I can't relax My shoulders and just hurts to turn or get comfortable. So that's when I take my muscle relaxer pretty much it's just that I can relax enough to sleep. Tylenol is the only pain medicine that I take because of my stomach problems and I can't really take much of that at all. I wished I had a better answer for you but really look into the stretches on here because they do work surprisingly!
I've done physical therapy. It's great while you're doing it. Afterwards, the pain comes back.
@Rottie Bull good point
Agree to a point. I found doing decompression treatments and TINS kept it under control. Hate pills
Disagree. That's how muscle relaxants are in my experience-- effective while you're on them, but the day after you stop taking them, you're down again. Physical therapy takes commitment, but will eventually get you healed. They have it right in this video-- drugs to get you functioning when you're in the worst of it, physical therapy to get you healed up.
You have to CONTINUE to do what they have taught you for the rest of your life or the weakness and pain WILL come back.
"THAT'S NOT FUNNY...
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...but it makes me laugh."
-Brad
I was prescribed muscle relaxants for fibromyalgia caused by the trauma of a c-section. I hated them. I was so sleepy. Being half asleep all day doesn't work with 4 kids!
I went to a chiropractor and he helped realign my neck and back. Then an occupational therapist who helped me with myofacial release. I started an exercise program with stretching geared toward fibromyalgia.
21 years later I still have fibro. I still have pain. But I am able to go through life without muscle relaxants, or prescription pain meds (so far).
My advice is always to try all the other modalities and therapies before the pills. No shame in using them, but they just come with their own problems.
Facts
Thank You for sharing your experience. When I tried to get as much therapy as I possibly can, my public aid insurance refused to pay for my extended therapy.
@@boostmobile5326 That can be a huge problem. I'm sorry you went through that.
I was really happy that my chiropractor offered a cash (no insurance) fee that was cheaper. Not all services do that.
I took Soma when the spasms would start in my back, and it helped.
I used be on it all it did was make me sleep.
I take tizanidine 4 mg my shoulders tense insanely. This med relaxes me so I can sleep really well. I'm 60. I've been on it for 5 years.
Amen brother
I love your profile picture! 😍
@@FantasticExplorers thanks loved the show and it helps avoid comments about my real appearance.
I take cyclobenzophine and it does not help at all.
@The S Word if you're referring to cbd oil it doesn't help
I have sciatic pain I been told muscle relaxers can be addictive. I am recovering addict can't afford be addictive. Physical therapy best for me help me strengthen and stretch to help me get better. Muscle relaxers are just and band aid physical therapy is the healthier way to get better. I hate feeling groggy and recovering addict I am scared I may get addictive I would relapse. I agree to the pharmacist it's best physical therapy helps stretch strengthen your core. I will be seeing my doctor soon ask to get in again with a physical therapist. I love Bob and Brad helped me so much when I had knee replacement. I never taken pain pills I recovered well like I said I am in recovering worked too long and hard not going backwards.
I have a spinal cord injury and fibromyalgia and use baclofen for preventing and treating painful spasms.
I take flexiril, Ive taken it off and on for 7 years. I hope one day I won’t have to.
I switched to Tizanidine it works better but makes me way more tired so idk if it's worth it
Thank you so much for this video. I was in a car accident and currently have a flare up. I don't like how the medication makes me feel so it's good to know there's other options.
I have osteoarthritis in both knees but the right side is in constant pain whether sitting, standing, walking and even while I'm asleep. I can go to the doctor, run errands, or go to the store and when I get home, my muscles will be so sore and I will catch bad cramps while sleeping and during waking hours the next day. I drink tons of water and take magnesium so I know I'm not dehydrated. But I will take a muscle spasm pill (methocarbomal) to relax the muscles and try to reduce the chance of having cramping in my legs, feet and sometimes back.
My Mom’s left knee is bone on bone and pinching the nerves really bad. Tylenol helps to a certain degree but we would like to figure out a better solution
i call muscle knots pain in my back "suicide pain" and muscle relaxers don't help !
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I know the feeling....I've wanted amputation of a leg to make the pain go away.
They helped me. Stops spasms big time. Got them from a Reclast infusion for your bones. Only thing that helped.
The Beers List was an important advance, but there is nothing magic physiologically about the age of 65. It’s really a continuum of increasing adverse effects with age, and I write this as a pharmacoepidemiologist and clinical trials doc.
I'm very appriciative for this video.
Love you fellas. Thank you. ❤️🙏
I have a very stiff neck, went to the ER and got a muscle relaxer and I just took it about 2-hrs ago and I can now move my neck
first week on muscle relaxers. I'd rather just see the Chiropractor and get back in shape to walk comfortably. Thanks guys!
I’ve been on max dose flexerall for over 10 yrs I’m 5 ft 6 110 lbs so under weight a little bit But since I am trying to quit this I can’t maintain I am losing more weight. I didn’t think I was addicted because I could skip a day but found out I start to feel bad wo it after 2 days
Diazepam & baclofen are good for muscle tension. Muscles relaxers like cyclo is a passive approach to treat pain.
If the pain is caused by muscle tension then yes. Muscle relaxants can even be used for certain types of headaches. Especially ones that involve tension in the neck. The headache is typically caused by muscle tension. So muscle relaxants usually do well to diminish the headache's effects
I can tell when the pain is building and not responding to stretches/exercises. I take Flexural in a low dose to help with sleep for a couple of days. If not enough, I’ll see the chiropractor. Twice I had to go to emergency because the spasms/pain was dangerously ramping up my blood pressure.
I take flexerile too ,,when im in extreme pain...so long as its managed well...if I take too much it makes me hot and I can't wake up..so I split up my pill
@@annafantastic1115 I have a really low dose. 30mg. I can max it to 3 doses per day. I’ve only had to do that three times (incl. the 2 times I went to emergency.) Usually the 30mg. before bed will get me to sleep. I rarely need to stay on Flexural for more than a few days. The chiropractor will do deep massages and careful adjustments when I need them.
Mistyped. 10mg with a daily maximum of 30 mg.
CRPS FM hEDS POP TOS scoliosis cervical spinal fusion chemo damage etc... I have to use methocarbamol and diazepam or I wouldn’t be able to move.
Same here. With my hEDS, Dercum's Disease, Degenerative Discs, etc... That sounds like a good combo. I'm on Cyclobenzaprime and Alprazolam. But your combo would work better for me.
It did stop my Trigeminal Neuralgia pain over any of my painkillers
Glad to hear it!
Which muscles relaxer helped you and what dose?
Muscle relaxers make my pain worse. I was taking it for chronic leg spasms and severe leg cramps and RLS. The pain is so bad my legs actually jerk up off of the bed, and my feet turn in. It lasts for 10-12 hours, constant agony.
Baclofen helps my emotional and physical pain to a point....coming out of a rough patch, so using daily....
i have severe pain and panic attacks off flexitil i need it to live basically
I’ve used both Baclofen and Flexoril neither worked for my terrible mid back muscle spasms, any other meds that may work, at the end of my rope.
How are you now?
Yes I agree with you. My only desires is to get as much therapy as possible but the public aid insurance only pays and approves limited physical therapy sessions and I hate muscle relaxers because they give me a head ache and feeling hanged over.
Explaining what drugs do to us is a super righteous goal - especially for us Americans! 👍
“ cyclobenzlatrine”🙂- Brad
I like the name Psycho Ben-Zaprine
What about those whom have chronic pain? I have been in PT for 5+ years (I’m only allowed to see 3 pts in the state). I can not get pain meds, my body declines, I have been prescribed Flexeril for years, it still helps. Most get a sprain I have to push through it. You should have mentioned the “hangover” from flexeril in the morning after.
I have just been finally diagnosed for with Fibromyalgia!
I AM ALWAYS IN EXTREME PAIN!
Any good recommendations?!
I’ve done physical therapy, yoga, acupuncture, chiropractor, tens unit, massage, kinesiotherapy, meds, creams, decompression, ice, heat, foam rolling, shoe insoles, diet, hyperbaric oxygen, epidural. I don’t have nerve problems so they won’t do surgery. And none of that stuff works. I don’t know what to do. It’s causing my mental health to plummet.
they have no idea why im having bladder pain. so he prescribed muscle relaxer. seems to help a little.
Thanks for sharing
I have 3 years muscle spasm in my neck and back. Help pls. Pls
Very heLpful. I exercise daily but have herniated disc and now pinched nerve in neck.I do PT but its not working. My sciatic leg getting worse so I take forceful 2 or 3 times a week. I don't want to but the pain is severe
So sorry to hear that. Sounds like you need to go to a PT in person with all your things together so they can monitor it!
@@BobandBrad yes just started yesterday
The only thing muscle relaxers ever did for me was to tranquilize me. They didn't do a d*** thing for my muscles.
Me to, I took one for my first time at 31 years old two days ago and let me tell u I popped it and within 30 mins to a hour I was walking into the hallway and passed out my brother picked me up and I was out for hours then woke up like wtf and I'm a high cannabis consumer so this shi right here is no joke I have the 10 mg cycleobenzapr
I agree , it seems as though they made the muscles in more pain, I haven’t felt comfortable ever since the injection of Toradol, I’m being waken up out my sleep early morning trying to massage the pain away but it doesn’t help at all. It’s going on two weeks now. I believe I just only need a strong pain medication
@@kandicewright-lm8ym Toradol isn't a muscle relaxer. It's a NSAID
I get tingling up my neck which depending on how I move my head, makes me a little light headed. I do have tight muscles along my upper shoulders. Also a knot (like a ball), in my left shoulder that when I move my head at a upward angle from left , there's a shooting sharp stabbing pain that travels from the knot, up my neck , to my forehead giving me a 20 sec head rush or migraine. This is all due to my job which is repetitive motion and I'm in one spot all day. It's cause I don't move that much so my muscle tighten up. Couple of times I moved too soon and I hear a crunch noise. Kinda like I released the tightness in my neck. I do feel a little bit better afterwards that's how I know that's the problem.
Did you take this muscle relaxer..? And does it help with your migraine
I have the exact same thing, is it still a problem for you?
Anti-inflammatories and muscle relaxers are not suppose to be used long term! Long term use causes major damage to organs and muscles can waste. 5 -7 days he says and he is right! Not long term!
Definitely I know a lot of people who have fatty liver from otc medicine alone in their 40s
@@supersaiyanzero386 which otc meds Can cause fatty liver?
my doc prescibed me 20 days
It helps my cluster headaches.
Great stuff, especially this week when I was prescribed a muscle relaxer and physical therapy.
Oh sorry maybe I missed this if you are on muscle relaxers because of pain for example from fibromyalgia, and you have a physical job does the med make you more prone to injury. I know you said it spasms as a over protection from an injury, but for instance I'm not sure I hurt myself. Maybe I just over did it.. with fibromyalgia sometimes it doesn't take much.
I'm learning that does any muscle relaxer interacts with antiviral called sarcover. It can lower the blood pressure
If you notice they never addressed the question of pain. Because muscle relaxers do NOTHING for pain. Zero.
I agree
Agreed.
He did say they are only a "band-aid" for pain.
Superior to the PT and Rx is trigger point release technique with acupuncture!
My Muscle Relaxers helps relax tone in my hand. I take the muscle relaxer only at night, because it will put you to sleep. Daytime, I don't because it turns into a disaster.
I have spinal nerve damage from pilonidal sinus disease .
Somas were the only thing that would actually relax my muscles. I have tried them all nothing helps.
They work good until the.sleepiness kicks in.which I don't like.take care
This is the case with me as well.
Great talk guys, some good info as always.
Doc is muscle relaxers good for muscle sprain/strain?
Thank you
Thank you so much for this information
I have nystagmus and Zanaflex is so helpful for the pain it causes. It’s also nice for when my legs are sore after seizures and such.
I’m taking Flexeril currently 3 times a day 5mg for sciatica (I’m using a walker and can’t stand at all.)
It helps a little bit, but I definitely sleep constantly. I’m 35 weeks pregnant with my 3rd baby.
I’m miserable 😩
😘be well
just remember what ever you take so does your baby
So sorry. I hope you can feel better.
Oh my goodness. I'm so sorry you're having to go through this especially while pregnant. I'm going to pray for you right now and for your baby too 💕🕊😊
I’m so sorry to hear that you’re going through this while pregnant. I feel your pain and you are not alone. I am having a severe sciatica flare up due to a herniated disc and started taking Flexeril 3 days ago to help me sleep through the night. I’m also using a walker and I’m only 37 years old. I’m way too young to be having these issues yet here we are. I will pray that we both get some relief soon and can sleep through the night.
Damn, I’ve been taking Tizanadine for years. 😥
Love yall dudes. Great information all in all.
Thank you!
I'm on zanaflex tizandine for years now but I also have OSTEPETROSIS a one out of 500,000 people have it. I'm that one. Muscles ache especially in my back n neck. Yes bad car wrecks too. Plz pry God/JESUS will heal me soon n SUPERNATURALLY I've laid on heating pads alot just to get off it n it starts back. I have herniated disc also. Lordy I wish I could get some of y'alls massage therapy.
PS my bone marrow disease is going to turn into bone cancer signs are already started. I need a bone marrow and FAST ! I need a great healthy person to donate for me. They say it could help my pain n my life span. My bones stay fractured alot n breakeasy.
I also find Trihexyphenidyl an effective antispasmodic.
Are there any situations where a chiropractor should be consulted before a physical therapist?
I love my chiropractor! A chiropractor can get you back in alignment when/if your back "goes out" and a physical therapist can teach you stretching and muscle strengthening to KEEP you in alignment. You could have weak abdominal muscles, for example, that could be stressing your back muscles. The important thing I tell people is to find a "straight" chiropractor, in other words, one that doesn't twist your back to align it... that is hard on the discs.
I've been suffering with leg spasms, cramps and RLS for 14 years. Nothing works.
I have Trigeminal Neuralgia I had a side effects from carbamazepine that definitely worked for it. I now take baclofen that seems to be helping so far. Crossing my fingers. Trigeminal neuralgia for those who don’t know use to be caused the suicide disease back in the day. In the face and head.
Trigeminal Not caused suicide disease but called the suicide disease.
Muscle relaxants are such a misnomer.... they just depress your central nervous system, instead of directly relaxing the muscle
I definitely think that’s true for most of them, especially flexaril. However, I’m pretty sure that soma is a true muscle relaxant. Fact check that though, don’t take my word on it.
Those of us allergic to aspirin (and therefore all inflammatories) we have no choice. Tylenol or muscle relaxers.
I thought I was the only one allergic to aspirin and all inflammatory drugs. It does suck.
Me too
Thank you for this information 🙏 😊!!!! It is needed for so many.
Please go into more detail regarding Baclofen. It would be appreciated.
Ok so I have scoliosis, and the doctor gave me cyclobenzaprine twice. And it doesn’t seem to be numbing my spine I just feel a lil sleepy. But I had got an OxyContin from a good friend, and it numb my back.
I really feel like im out of options, im waiting to get a scheduled date for my orthopedic so they can check my back and im thinking ima have to get surgery. My pain is out of this work I never felt nun like this. I literally lay and bed all day and feel a lil hopeless cus I can’t do anything. But like I said oxy’s worked. Should ask my doctor for the oxy’s ?
Can u take muscle relaxing medicin only when really needed like one or 3 pills pr Month and still feel the releve?
So not Daily use.
Does anyone get tightness back of neck on side upper facial area when chewing food ? And what's the cause tight bend feeling
Well tinadizine 4mg makes me sleepy and go to sleep sometimes . I mean it works for me.
I just got some for a spine strain i'm not havin spasms but they do burn. I'm kinda scared to take them.
Diazepam works for hiatus hernia and muscle pain, my nerve pain and bowel pains I’ve still undiagnosed. Quality over quantity bc I’m ready for revenge for the torture I’ve endured for 7 years in the UK.
Excellent video...thanks for the great information!
Does 5 m of valium help get thru Stretches. My PT lady said i needed to take it to help me relax. I just had bicept surgery 6 wks ago with frozen shoulder.
Thank you
Whenever I take a muscle relaxer I seem to get depressed
Could very well be. Whenever I take them, they put me to sleep.
Thanks so much
People are going to avoid back surgery as last resort. I would do pt, then drugs or both before ever going into surgery.
I’m on muscle relaxers for a pinched nerve in my neck with pain shooting down my shoulder . The pain is worse lol
My problem…did it work?
@@trulyrblessed yes but the meds are strong . I continue to stay active the symptoms go away while on the meds but I am now off them and have lesser intense episodes . I am trying cold plunges and neck adjustments next. Something’s has got to give
@@ebsrok6681 did you have any side effects from the meds ? I’ve just been prescribed a steroid and muscle relaxer. I haven’t had any relief from the steroids but it’s only been a week. I’m about to start the muscle relaxers and I have a appointment for a massage. I have the same pain as you. It’s so painful especially the arm and fingers. Praying we both find relief soon.
20 20 20 4 hours to gooo
“..it doesn’t make sense.”
I agree.
Is mydocalm used for mussle rotator cuff damage?
The intro had me dying
Will it make you pass out
Im currently taking cyclobenzaprine my back still hurts bros 😢
We are very sorry to hear that. Have you tried therapy exercises?
Brad sounds exactly like norm macdonald ngl lol 😂
If I drink too much alcohol I get muscle cramps so bad I can’t stand.
I'd stop drinking must be agony
Alcohol dehydrates your body and dehydration definitely causes muscle cramps. It may have something to do with the potassium, calcium, sodium and magnesium balance in your body as well.
12:12 what a cut💀
I love the jingle
Diazepam also addictive
Dang you guys got a lot of subscribers 💯
My kids and I sing your theme song!
Video and audio out of sync?
Oxytocin is the only thing that works for me
This is a great guest. Very informative.