Louis to Lestat: "pleeeeease pretty PLEASE can you turn Claudia, she's all I have left from my past and I want to fix my mistake, she can be like our daughter" 😢😔😞 Louis 2 episodes later: "YOU'RE the one who turned her, this is YOUR FAULT Lestat. How could you do this to us? Now we're gonna get caught" 😠
Suicidal people often see themselves as a "vessel of acceptance" sleepwalking through an unbearable world. Both Louis' robotic acceptance of his misery under Lestat (literally), and his desire to end it all aren't conflicting ideas if you've ever been severely depressed (I have).
I agree with your analysis 100%. It's very insightful and eloquently put. However, I didn't mean to contrast those two moments but rather Louis still wanting to commit suicide years after Lestat promised to "take away that sorrow" (which I don't think would have worked even if they had the perfect marriage because our happiness cannot be dependent on other people). If the former is what it came across as, then I'm afraid it's due to poor editing on my part.
True. I'm wondering whether Louis's memory is being manipulated in a literal sense, say by someone with mind-altering abilities, or if he's just so in denial about his own life that he has fabricated an entire story and just decided to exist in it.
I don’t want to give anything away if you haven’t read the books but hint: read the second half of Interview With a Vampire… Armand is really something else😳
I genuinely feel that's why he lost his Creole accent. I think it's on purpose... it shows mental manipulation, because when he recalls when he killed the white businessman, his accent comes back.
ahhh me too. he's the kind of insane that I find endlessly fascinating to see. the funny thing is, I've seen ppl who haven't read the books but watched the show say that Louis finally found someone who's good for him and I'm like, oh babe you have no idea what's coming
@@politemenace5781 let’s not even talk about his ‘experiments’ omg. ‘Someone who’s good for him’ lmao Armand wants bang Louis ex more, and he’s like an actual creep
I think Lestat mind screwed with Paul, which caused his suicide. I find that Paul spoke of Lestat; and he spoke to Paul without moving his lips, telling. Paul suicide was the catalyst of Louis losing his family. Which made Louis vulnerable to Lestat and kept any influences away from Louis.
@@pamelabillings4293 I agree especially with Paul being so fragile already, Lestat took advantage of that to get Louis right where he wanted him. Although I did like Paul as a character
@@pamelabillings4293Lestat did nothing to Paul. Paul was mentally I’ll and took his life because he couldn’t deal with Grace getting married. Lestat has been nothing but Kind to Louis’ family.
@PLLittleMama2007 that may be true. Lestat may or may not have had influence over Paul, which led to his death. And yes, Lestat was kind to Louis and his family to get to Louis. However, Lestat is narcissistic and toxic also. Lestat at least took advantage of Louis while Louis was vulnerable. This means Louis may not have truly understood the full scope of what he was allowing himself to be lured into. Nothing is one-sided. Although things can be lopped-sided.
🤷🏽♀..💭Well Louis didn't go back to Lestat place... After mentally stalking him, and almost driving him crazy, Lestat went and forced Louis to be with him. (0:33)
Does anyone have a theory as to why Armond lied about his age(being in his 20s) and "worshipping" Louis? (Basically, why are they lying/putting up an act?)
He said he serves a God, he never said it was Louis. We all just assumed. Armond is too strong to see Louis as his God. I think he’s referring to Lestat. Armond comes off more as Louis’ caregiver than lover.
I'm new to this book turned tv show. I saw the 1994 movie and as Louis said "dull as dishwater". This show is amazing also the fact that I love the vampire genre. My big question that fight...was it real, messed up memory or what?
I'm glad you enjoyed the show. I'm not a huge fan of the 1994 movie myself, but I've always liked it. I would have liked it more if it was as queer as it should be and Brad Pitt didn't act completely lethargic as Louis. Oh and the wigs were awful. Now for the show, I strongly believe the fight in ep. 5 did happen. We're given no reason or hint to suspect otherwise. There's certainly a small scene in which we don't know what happens because we're not shown it (because it's Claudia's POV), but I'm not sure if those few seconds could change anything. It's still a huge shift from toxicity to violence in just a few minutes. If the show tries to claim that the fight was a lie or messed up memory I will honestly stop watching it completely. I'm already disappointed with how they've handled abuse too carelessly for something that came out in 2022. It's quite a big stain on an otherwise well-written show imo, but if they tried to do refute Claudia and Louis' narration it would be unforgivable for me. Real-life victims of abuse (especially people of color) are met with disbelief when they talk about it, so the fight should be nothing but absolutely real. Having unreliable narrators in your story is one thing, but you can't really take back the big events. I honestly wish it was handled differently or not shown at all. I'm not sure what all that abuse in ep. 5 (including Claudia's assault) added to the plot, I feel like most of it was unnecessary, but I don't think they can go back on it now without making it even more problematic than it already is.
@@politemenace5781 omg...your awesome the 1994 movie lol...yes that Louis was lethargic 🤣and yeah i never knew the characters were in a relationship until now (and Anne Rice Interview). I completely agree regarding the abuse(as I grew up in a household witnessing that type of abuse myself) I guess I questioned it because of how Daniel was going back and forth and saying memory is a monster. Also lestats line as they were fighting was confusing saying he didn't want to fight anymore then throws Louis through a wall. I will also say I wish they never went there with Claudia and her assault...they could have honestly done anything else to show she was having a hard time coming of age...why use assault to "toughen her up"
@@hydrobetty5765 it makes sense that you questioned it, it's a recurring theme in the show to not take everything at face value, the first thing Daniel tells us not to do in the opening scene. I think the reason why so many people (myself included) questioned the fight is exactly because it feels out of place. What Lestat was saying to Louis during the fight was confusing to me as well, but then, thinking about it, I realised that maybe it was an attempt at victim blaming, something that an abusive, manipulative person probably would do, "look what you made me do, I don't want to be angry, you made me angry" that kind of thing. Maybe they'll revisit that part of the fight because it's the only moment that we don't know what happened. Louis said they were done but a moment later it escalated even more, so something must have happened during those few seconds that we can't see because of Claudia's limited POV. Unless they just want us to assume that Lestat lost it (again) because Louis was trying to comfort Claudia in the midst of all this? Or that Louis was lying to Claudia, trying to reassure her? I don't know. I agree with you that Claudia's storyline in episode 5 could have been literally anything else. She's a teenage vampire, a homeless black girl in the south who's probably had to dig holes in the ground to sleep in, it would have been nearly impossible for her to survive out there without her abusive father's money. They could have explored that more instead of resorting to an overdone sexist trope. And don't even get me started on the commentary of how that experience "toughened her up"... 🤬 Sorry for the long rant(s) and thank you so so much for watching and commenting 💕
Yesss I love that you pull out "It could've been raining" vs Louis confronting him at the time. ...personally I would b very tempted to add "I didn't kill Paul" to the list but 🤐
I really like this series and I’ll continue to watch but I am so mesmerized and in love with Tom cruise and brad Pitt and Antonio Banderas sexy vampires 😍😍😍😍😍
Also one I've been needing to mention somewhere that I noticed in my rewatch is that. Lestat says that once you make a vampire you cannot mind speak/read their minds anymore but when he takes Louis in his first hunt he speaks to him mentally to tell him to stop scaring their meal.I think Lestat is just playing down his powerful he is but for him I think it was more of an issue with consent with Louis,not wanting to read his mind without asking.
It wasn't about Louis not killing himself, it was about Louis still being deeply depressed and suicidal decades after Lestat promised that a life with him as vampire companions would take away his sorrow. Lestat is the liar in this case, because he sugarcoated vampirism, didn't tell Louis that he'd lose his family, and then promised him a loving marriage that turned out to be abusive. And while I don't believe that a partner can cure one's depression, said partner could at least not have traumatized Louis anew and make him even more depressed.
@polite menace 📍Louis life didn't get better with Lestat, (he said Louis could be unapologetically his self without shame, etc.) - but he gets mad that Louis doesn't want to feed on people.
Louis has always been my least favorite character, and zi read the entire series when I was a teen. Armand is mt SECOND least fave. He's truly a monster. Lestat of course is my favorite 😂
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Louis:So I can do it too?
Lestat:of course…..🙂
***20 mins later***
🗣️I HEARD YOUR HEARTS DANCING 🥲
The thing about Louis is that he’s a hypocrite (it’s hilarious)
he likes to pretend he has morals, doesn't he?
He is cute so it's okay
Like 99.999999% of humans
"But that doesn't count, it's different!" - Me defending Louis 😅
Louis to Lestat: "pleeeeease pretty PLEASE can you turn Claudia, she's all I have left from my past and I want to fix my mistake, she can be like our daughter" 😢😔😞
Louis 2 episodes later: "YOU'RE the one who turned her, this is YOUR FAULT Lestat. How could you do this to us? Now we're gonna get caught" 😠
Suicidal people often see themselves as a "vessel of acceptance" sleepwalking through an unbearable world. Both Louis' robotic acceptance of his misery under Lestat (literally), and his desire to end it all aren't conflicting ideas if you've ever been severely depressed (I have).
I agree with your analysis 100%. It's very insightful and eloquently put. However, I didn't mean to contrast those two moments but rather Louis still wanting to commit suicide years after Lestat promised to "take away that sorrow" (which I don't think would have worked even if they had the perfect marriage because our happiness cannot be dependent on other people). If the former is what it came across as, then I'm afraid it's due to poor editing on my part.
@@politemenace5781ohhh yeah I thought we were onto a new section by then
Some serious fuckery going on in this season. Makes you wonder if Louis's memory is somehow being manipulated
True. I'm wondering whether Louis's memory is being manipulated in a literal sense, say by someone with mind-altering abilities, or if he's just so in denial about his own life that he has fabricated an entire story and just decided to exist in it.
I don’t want to give anything away if you haven’t read the books but hint: read the second half of Interview With a Vampire… Armand is really something else😳
I genuinely feel that's why he lost his Creole accent. I think it's on purpose... it shows mental manipulation, because when he recalls when he killed the white businessman, his accent comes back.
@@galaxylucia1898 I bet he is 😭even Sam said “wait till you meet Armand “ I’m so ready for season 2
- I think Lestat messed with his mind from the first day they met, and that new guy is probably doing it too!
So clever!! It really points out exactly how unreliable they all are!!
Well done!!
thank you ☺️
Louis is really the only narrator, (except for Claudia’s diaries); he is an unreliable narrator.
@@icoleman150but not on purpose
The pimp slap Daniel gave him after making his Parkinson’s act up was great
Lots of ppl in the comments asking why Armand is so sketchy and I’m just waiting for the reveal of what an absolute nut job he is
ahhh me too. he's the kind of insane that I find endlessly fascinating to see. the funny thing is, I've seen ppl who haven't read the books but watched the show say that Louis finally found someone who's good for him and I'm like, oh babe you have no idea what's coming
@@politemenace5781 let’s not even talk about his ‘experiments’ omg. ‘Someone who’s good for him’ lmao Armand wants bang Louis ex more, and he’s like an actual creep
Okaaaayyy 😂😂
Louis calling him boring is wild like he’s such an interesting little whack job
@@plutopepsi578that was the drugs talking for him
Immortality doesn't cure mental illness. It makes it worse.
Addict to the ruby red. Always needing more.
SSRIs and a beach vacation is were it is at.
Well he didn’t lie Paul never saw Lestat or anyone for that matter ever again😢
I think Lestat mind screwed with Paul, which caused his suicide. I find that Paul spoke of Lestat; and he spoke to Paul without moving his lips, telling. Paul suicide was the catalyst of Louis losing his family. Which made Louis vulnerable to Lestat and kept any influences away from Louis.
@@pamelabillings4293 I agree especially with Paul being so fragile already, Lestat took advantage of that to get Louis right where he wanted him. Although I did like Paul as a character
@@danneighheart1890 Lestat explicitly states that he had nothing to do w Paul's death..Paul was mentally ill
@@pamelabillings4293Lestat did nothing to Paul. Paul was mentally I’ll and took his life because he couldn’t deal with Grace getting married. Lestat has been nothing but Kind to Louis’ family.
@PLLittleMama2007 that may be true. Lestat may or may not have had influence over Paul, which led to his death. And yes, Lestat was kind to Louis and his family to get to Louis. However, Lestat is narcissistic and toxic also. Lestat at least took advantage of Louis while Louis was vulnerable. This means Louis may not have truly understood the full scope of what he was allowing himself to be lured into. Nothing is one-sided. Although things can be lopped-sided.
🤷🏽♀..💭Well Louis didn't go back to Lestat place... After mentally stalking him, and almost driving him crazy, Lestat went and forced Louis to be with him. (0:33)
I laughed so hard!! Nice job
thank you! glad you had a laugh 💕
That ofcourse always took me out 😂
Lmao while shaking his head
Does anyone have a theory as to why Armond lied about his age(being in his 20s) and "worshipping" Louis? (Basically, why are they lying/putting up an act?)
Boredom? Fear? Hiding from Lestat?
He said he serves a God, he never said it was Louis. We all just assumed. Armond is too strong to see Louis as his God. I think he’s referring to Lestat. Armond comes off more as Louis’ caregiver than lover.
They are all psychopaths. Not necessarily a truthful bunch
I'm new to this book turned tv show. I saw the 1994 movie and as Louis said "dull as dishwater". This show is amazing also the fact that I love the vampire genre. My big question that fight...was it real, messed up memory or what?
I'm glad you enjoyed the show. I'm not a huge fan of the 1994 movie myself, but I've always liked it. I would have liked it more if it was as queer as it should be and Brad Pitt didn't act completely lethargic as Louis. Oh and the wigs were awful.
Now for the show, I strongly believe the fight in ep. 5 did happen. We're given no reason or hint to suspect otherwise. There's certainly a small scene in which we don't know what happens because we're not shown it (because it's Claudia's POV), but I'm not sure if those few seconds could change anything. It's still a huge shift from toxicity to violence in just a few minutes.
If the show tries to claim that the fight was a lie or messed up memory I will honestly stop watching it completely. I'm already disappointed with how they've handled abuse too carelessly for something that came out in 2022. It's quite a big stain on an otherwise well-written show imo, but if they tried to do refute Claudia and Louis' narration it would be unforgivable for me. Real-life victims of abuse (especially people of color) are met with disbelief when they talk about it, so the fight should be nothing but absolutely real. Having unreliable narrators in your story is one thing, but you can't really take back the big events. I honestly wish it was handled differently or not shown at all. I'm not sure what all that abuse in ep. 5 (including Claudia's assault) added to the plot, I feel like most of it was unnecessary, but I don't think they can go back on it now without making it even more problematic than it already is.
@@politemenace5781 omg...your awesome the 1994 movie lol...yes that Louis was lethargic 🤣and yeah i never knew the characters were in a relationship until now (and Anne Rice Interview).
I completely agree regarding the abuse(as I grew up in a household witnessing that type of abuse myself) I guess I questioned it because of how Daniel was going back and forth and saying memory is a monster. Also lestats line as they were fighting was confusing saying he didn't want to fight anymore then throws Louis through a wall. I will also say I wish they never went there with Claudia and her assault...they could have honestly done anything else to show she was having a hard time coming of age...why use assault to "toughen her up"
@@hydrobetty5765 it makes sense that you questioned it, it's a recurring theme in the show to not take everything at face value, the first thing Daniel tells us not to do in the opening scene. I think the reason why so many people (myself included) questioned the fight is exactly because it feels out of place. What Lestat was saying to Louis during the fight was confusing to me as well, but then, thinking about it, I realised that maybe it was an attempt at victim blaming, something that an abusive, manipulative person probably would do, "look what you made me do, I don't want to be angry, you made me angry" that kind of thing.
Maybe they'll revisit that part of the fight because it's the only moment that we don't know what happened. Louis said they were done but a moment later it escalated even more, so something must have happened during those few seconds that we can't see because of Claudia's limited POV. Unless they just want us to assume that Lestat lost it (again) because Louis was trying to comfort Claudia in the midst of all this? Or that Louis was lying to Claudia, trying to reassure her? I don't know.
I agree with you that Claudia's storyline in episode 5 could have been literally anything else. She's a teenage vampire, a homeless black girl in the south who's probably had to dig holes in the ground to sleep in, it would have been nearly impossible for her to survive out there without her abusive father's money. They could have explored that more instead of resorting to an overdone sexist trope. And don't even get me started on the commentary of how that experience "toughened her up"... 🤬
Sorry for the long rant(s) and thank you so so much for watching and commenting 💕
See cuz i love the 1994 movie 😭
@@politemenace5781I think you need to go back and rewatch it, there was a reason for all of it and it was just good acting
This was excellent!!!!💯💯💯
The one louis lies to most is himself self victimizing but also constant pushing blame
This is PERFECT.
Thank you 😊 💕
Yesss I love that you pull out "It could've been raining" vs Louis confronting him at the time.
...personally I would b very tempted to add "I didn't kill Paul" to the list but 🤐
Lest at laid the pipe
I wonder when Rashid will turn Daniel...
Now probably. Daniel is terminally ill, I don't think Armand would let him die
I really like this series and I’ll continue to watch but I am so mesmerized and in love with Tom cruise and brad Pitt and Antonio Banderas sexy vampires 😍😍😍😍😍
Also one I've been needing to mention somewhere that I noticed in my rewatch is that.
Lestat says that once you make a vampire you cannot mind speak/read their minds anymore but when he takes Louis in his first hunt he speaks to him mentally to tell him to stop scaring their meal.I think Lestat is just playing down his powerful he is but for him I think it was more of an issue with consent with Louis,not wanting to read his mind without asking.
Is always thought that was just a plot hole lol
Love louis my hypocrite king 😍❤
In Louie’s defense that one time he said PAUL wouldn’t see Lestat 😂
this was funny
thank you 😊 the original idea was to make a light-hearted video but then some of the heavy stuff got in and well... I'm glad it's still fun to watch
What was the lie about Louis not killing himself when Claudia left?
It wasn't about Louis not killing himself, it was about Louis still being deeply depressed and suicidal decades after Lestat promised that a life with him as vampire companions would take away his sorrow. Lestat is the liar in this case, because he sugarcoated vampirism, didn't tell Louis that he'd lose his family, and then promised him a loving marriage that turned out to be abusive. And while I don't believe that a partner can cure one's depression, said partner could at least not have traumatized Louis anew and make him even more depressed.
@polite menace 📍Louis life didn't get better with Lestat, (he said Louis could be unapologetically his self without shame, etc.) - but he gets mad that Louis doesn't want to feed on people.
@@andreabrantley6951 😂 Lestat is a brat but Louis is problematic too. They are both toxic haha your comment made me laugh
@Fabienne François-Auguste 😏; They might both be toxic but Lestat stalked Louis, then forced him into a relationship.
You are snarky, Polite Menace. And I think I love you.
thank you! I think I love you too 💕
@@politemenace5781 🥰
Dead 🤣
Louis has always been my least favorite character, and zi read the entire series when I was a teen. Armand is mt SECOND least fave. He's truly a monster. Lestat of course is my favorite 😂
v vampires are just as messy as humans