Well done Tony! This is a great example that you can still have a great HT experience even if the placement of things are not 100% to "Dolby Spec". Need more room tours like this. Thanks for sharing.
I’ll be doing a full room tour now it’s finished as this was more of a build journey. The next one will break things down more and show the final experience
Thank you for showing that you mounted the xgimi on the ceiling. All reviews I've watched never hung it from the ceiling mount. Please make a video of you installing it hanging and what mount you used? I'm convinced the xgimi will be the next projector I purchase.
Initially I did do the review of the XHU on a stand but as it was so good, I decided to keep it and use it in this space. It's much better than some other reviewers gave it credit for but I calibrated mine manually with a sensor so the image is out of this world good.
As usual, an awesome video. Most people would be delighted to have this room as a primary setup, let-alone a secondary one. Your attention to detail is amazing mate, I suspect like many at the top of this hobby, we all have OCD….
Thanks Paul, for a non-dedicated room it's come up pretty well. I just added new speakers so the next vid on thsi room will show everything. It could easily be a dedicated room for someone no doubt!
Well done mate, great entertainment space. And great explanation. The only shock to me was that you sometimes make spur of the moment decisions 😂.. more like always. I have said it before and I will say it again, you are married to a rare gem, Mim you are amazing.
Thanks mate... I didn't show too much of the final setup in this one - more of the journey - the next one will have it all nice and cleaned up! And yes Mim is awesome for supporting what I'm trying to do, even though show knows I'm using "RUclips" as the excuse haha!
Thanks - this one was a huge job to make into a cohesive video as I had a lot of time between takes, and also converting the footage into keyframe timelapses but I think it turned out ok!
Fantastic result on the room overall Tony. I was particularly interested in your mention of ghost wire in the first video, I see you didn't need to use it after all but for my self install approach and KEF uni q Eggs hanging up on the Ceiling for atmos I think it's going to be really useful for tidying up my install! (The leftover grey paint I've got being particularly handy) Dead set some people just get so fricking pretentious about speaker placement. Many installers ie people with real world experience often recommend side surrounds slightly forward of the listening position with 7 base layer speakers. I've been doing this for 9 mths in my living room setup and as you point out Tony they sound fantastic in that spot. What I did do though was place the back surrounds slightly wider to compensate. I think a bit of symmetry is always a good thing.
Yes, the ghostwire was purchased however, I realised that you have to still plaster over it and then paint and I felt that it wasn't worth the extra effort for what is a casual space. The sleeving around the edges isnt noticeable, it just blends into the skirting boards, so I felt that would work. For a more dedicated room, I would certainly do it. Also agree with your comments about speaker placement. Of course its best to do it correctly according to spec but if you can't you compromise and be fine with it - but some people tend to think if it cant be textbook it cant be good so dont bother :) Good luck with your setup!
My settings are based on a calibration with my room and screen conditions and likely wouldn't help you very much, and could make the picture worse for you. I do get asked a lot and this has generally been the case. I am going to do a video on it now that its been in the setup for about a month so I may show the settings in there and you could try at your own risk.
The overhead speakers were done in accordance to the Dolby Atmos guide for 7.2.4 - so I can't recall exact numbers but my electricans worked out the angles and distances from the seated position. You can Google "Dolby Atmos 7.1.4 guide" and it should show you.
Thanks for watching! I'll measure it all up. The seats set around 3.5m from the screen - but could go as far back as 5m but then the side surrounds would be more like front wides haha!
Looks great - Go for the 120-inch screen. :) By the way, what are your room dimensions. I also spot a space at the back for a Mini Popcorn machine and Snack bar :)
Yes, 120: is in place now - you will see in the final room reveal coming soon! You can watch part 1 here which has all the details: ruclips.net/video/_5Ni3502Iko/видео.html
Nothing. I use the pre-outs on the back and the. Use a Y cable to duplicate the signal to the amplifier and then have each speaker terminal on the back of the speaker go to it’s own channel. Works perfectly! I use the internal amps on the A8 for overhead speakers only.
I love your new set up it looks amazing and your Krix Vortex speaker l have listened Vortex they sound great . I have graphix speaker and try to get the space for Vortex but no show. Will you use your media player as Apple tv? . You done a great job..
Thanks Gary :) Yes Vortex is great. I still have the Graphix center - awesome speaker that worked well in this space, but the Vortex is a tank! I use the Zidoo Z9X and Apple TV for media up there.
Looks amazing, but the biamp being "instantly noticible"? are you sure that maybe the biamp setting on the amp wasn't accidentally turned on (for the non-biamp test)? I'm not against biamp I just find it strange that you would report such an extreme difference
I have a pretty good ear. I also listened to the setup well before biamping so it was very noticeable to my ear. Much more detail and more oomph in the midrange.
i see, makes me wish that my KEF q950 had biamp (my former less good speakers had biamp, but they might have not been high-end enough to be noticible)@@BuildMontage
@@Niberspace it’s possible. Every speaker is different. These LCR speakers are all 3 way speakers and really benefit from a bit of juice thrown at them. Absolute tanks and very cinematic but also musical as well.
Great Job! Great review. What ceiling mount did you use for the Xgimi Horizon. Also, how are the black levels on the projector? Alot of reviews complain about low contrast
I used a spare microphone 1/4" mount which worked perfectly for me! And people's claims about the XGIMI are not something Im familiar with. Check my review on it - plenty of contrast on my unit. I calibrated with a sensor. Possibly some issues with the preset modes - but I use a sensor and got it dialled right in!
Thanks about to purchase my first projector either the xgimi horizon or Hisense C1 can you post a picture of that ceiling mount or maybe a video? Thanks
You use the pre outs on the back of the Reciever with a Y splitter to two channels on the amplifier. I keep the overhead speakers powered by the Reciever.
how are you finding the a8a sound wise? also in comparison to say the anthem mrx740 you reviewed a while back. have you tinkered with the manual PEQ's or just run YPAO and left it at that?
Love the RXA-8A, and I am also biamping with the MX-A5000 which is a tank of an amp - I have done a few YPAO but no manual PEQ of the speakers - I dont feel that I need to as the sound is great as it is - big beefy and beautiful!
Ha! This is the funny thing right... I was searching for a short 1/4" mount and could not find ANYTHING that would work even on Amazon. I was going through my drawers and found this short white mount which I think may have been for a microphone I bought years ago... And... it worked!
@@BuildMontage funny AND lucky. I’m considering a Xgimi as I have a dedicated space and currently running a 75” tv. I don’t have the budget to go for a Sony or JVC and between price and being the only longthrow with DV I’m considering a purchase.
What will you be doing for screen synced lightning on the 120"? I can't find anything for that size, and Hue's bars seem to have awkward zone issues when combining light strips.
Answered in the other video - but the fact Im using it when I have access to dozens and dozens of projectors should tell you something :) I have a link to it from Projectorscreen.com
Room looks Amazing. I'm undecided on what to use for ATMOS speakers. There seems to be a lot of debate where to place ATMOS speakers, on the wall as front and rear heights or on top in the ceiling above as you have installed. Do you have a opinion which is the correct or best lay out. I'm looking at KRIX IC-50 for in ceiling, I have Polk r700 and R400 LCR would the KRIX IC-50 blend in with the polks, Also I like to upgrade to a 3 way center speaker like the Krix - Vortex Mk2 - Centre Speaker or svs ultra center instead of the Polk L400as it's is too expensive. Would any of those options blend in ok with my R700 fronts. Cheers.
Thanks, I really love this space to chill out in on the daily! Overhead speakers tend to suffer less from requiring a consistent mattched speaker as the bed layers do, and you can't go wrong with Krix, or the IC52 speakers. The Vortex for me was a goal as I had heard it many times and also have the bigger brother Epicentrix downstairs, so really wanted to go with it and I haven't looked back. I'd go listen to one and allow that to help make your decision.
What would you like to see? Calibration videos don't really do too well on RUclips... I mean, you plug the mic in and run the calibration. The video calibration is a little more interesting but takes hours to do as well as I'm not a professional, but I know enough to be dangerous!
Thanks for sharing Tony. Your kids friends must want to always come down to your house, and I can't blame them lol. With 3 different home theater areas, I kinda want to come down too haha. Great job as always buddy.
Thanks brother, it is rather luxurious to have that many spaces.. do I need them? no, but I enjoy projects a lot. The main room is for discs and once a week type of deal, but upstairs setup is pretty much daily even if its 20 minutes before sleep. If you ever come down-under, you are more than welcome to come over!
The screen is close to 4m from the seated position. The center channel is right under it and with the dispersion of that Vortex center you get very nice positional sound from it.
Krix is a local Australian brand which I became obsessed with early on in my journey. I got the MX-10 wall of sound and then just kept expanding my collection over time. For me Krix has the best cinematic sound signature of any speaker I have listened to - there is a sparkle in the audio I just don't hear from other speakers. And no I don't think the US market is coming any time soon but I'm also not in the know!
It kinda is a "dedicated" room but its not my intention for it to be so... Not a humble brag either.. It started out super duper casual and I sorta went overboard toward the end.
Well done Tony! This is a great example that you can still have a great HT experience even if the placement of things are not 100% to "Dolby Spec". Need more room tours like this. Thanks for sharing.
I’ll be doing a full room tour now it’s finished as this was more of a build journey. The next one will break things down more and show the final experience
Thank you for showing that you mounted the xgimi on the ceiling. All reviews I've watched never hung it from the ceiling mount. Please make a video of you installing it hanging and what mount you used? I'm convinced the xgimi will be the next projector I purchase.
Initially I did do the review of the XHU on a stand but as it was so good, I decided to keep it and use it in this space. It's much better than some other reviewers gave it credit for but I calibrated mine manually with a sensor so the image is out of this world good.
Yea. I'm sure it checks the boxes of mostly all minimum requirements. And mainly the price point.
As usual, an awesome video. Most people would be delighted to have this room as a primary setup, let-alone a secondary one.
Your attention to detail is amazing mate, I suspect like many at the top of this hobby, we all have OCD….
Thanks Paul, for a non-dedicated room it's come up pretty well. I just added new speakers so the next vid on thsi room will show everything. It could easily be a dedicated room for someone no doubt!
Amazing setup buddy and the use of time lapse was an excellent choice.
Well done mate, great entertainment space. And great explanation. The only shock to me was that you sometimes make spur of the moment decisions 😂.. more like always. I have said it before and I will say it again, you are married to a rare gem, Mim you are amazing.
Thanks mate... I didn't show too much of the final setup in this one - more of the journey - the next one will have it all nice and cleaned up! And yes Mim is awesome for supporting what I'm trying to do, even though show knows I'm using "RUclips" as the excuse haha!
Hey. Tony. Love the setup
Thanks for watching :)
Looks great
Thanks!
Thank youuu very much
Impressive
Can’t wait for the ginal results
I am planning to start making my room after final result
👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks! Next vid will show more of the end result - I'm just waiting on blinds or acoustic panels - I havent decided which way to go yet!
What a major project! It turned out incredible! Pretty wild that this setup is your secondary room!
Thanks - this one was a huge job to make into a cohesive video as I had a lot of time between takes, and also converting the footage into keyframe timelapses but I think it turned out ok!
Fantastic result on the room overall Tony. I was particularly interested in your mention of ghost wire in the first video, I see you didn't need to use it after all but for my self install approach and KEF uni q Eggs hanging up on the Ceiling for atmos I think it's going to be really useful for tidying up my install! (The leftover grey paint I've got being particularly handy)
Dead set some people just get so fricking pretentious about speaker placement. Many installers ie people with real world experience often recommend side surrounds slightly forward of the listening position with 7 base layer speakers. I've been doing this for 9 mths in my living room setup and as you point out Tony they sound fantastic in that spot. What I did do though was place the back surrounds slightly wider to compensate. I think a bit of symmetry is always a good thing.
Yes, the ghostwire was purchased however, I realised that you have to still plaster over it and then paint and I felt that it wasn't worth the extra effort for what is a casual space. The sleeving around the edges isnt noticeable, it just blends into the skirting boards, so I felt that would work. For a more dedicated room, I would certainly do it. Also agree with your comments about speaker placement. Of course its best to do it correctly according to spec but if you can't you compromise and be fine with it - but some people tend to think if it cant be textbook it cant be good so dont bother :) Good luck with your setup!
Awesome work Tony! Looking forward to checking it out in person at some stage soon!
Welcome any time mate - if you come to Sydney, let me know!
Awesome Tony looks great love your videos.
Thanks for watching !
Great video again Tony, really enjoyable, now it's time to get the Apple TV home page organised, folders make it so much more friendly and tidy. 😉
My homepage is the same on all 4 of my Apple TVs 😂 besides I use voice command to open apps
I love the front wall, beautiful space brotha.
Much appreciated... pain in the rear though...
Great video Tony, can you share some of the video setting you use for the xgimi? Also what mount are you using?
My settings are based on a calibration with my room and screen conditions and likely wouldn't help you very much, and could make the picture worse for you. I do get asked a lot and this has generally been the case. I am going to do a video on it now that its been in the setup for about a month so I may show the settings in there and you could try at your own risk.
Looks great! Can you next talk about your experience with Bi-Amp speakers.
Yes definitely plan on making a video on this, and why I did it.
How far did you install the Atmos speakers from the seating area?
The overhead speakers were done in accordance to the Dolby Atmos guide for 7.2.4 - so I can't recall exact numbers but my electricans worked out the angles and distances from the seated position. You can Google "Dolby Atmos 7.1.4 guide" and it should show you.
Looks good ❤
Thanks!
Epic job Tony! Excited for the final room tour video. Curious, what is your seating distance to the screen?
Thanks for watching! I'll measure it all up. The seats set around 3.5m from the screen - but could go as far back as 5m but then the side surrounds would be more like front wides haha!
Looks great - Go for the 120-inch screen. :) By the way, what are your room dimensions. I also spot a space at the back for a Mini Popcorn machine and Snack bar :)
Yes, 120: is in place now - you will see in the final room reveal coming soon! You can watch part 1 here which has all the details: ruclips.net/video/_5Ni3502Iko/видео.html
What mode is used in the receiver to support biamping? Room looks great btw!
Nothing. I use the pre-outs on the back and the. Use a Y cable to duplicate the signal to the amplifier and then have each speaker terminal on the back of the speaker go to it’s own channel. Works perfectly! I use the internal amps on the A8 for overhead speakers only.
I love your new set up it looks amazing and your Krix Vortex speaker l have listened Vortex they sound great . I have graphix speaker and try to get the space for Vortex but no show. Will you use your media player as Apple tv? . You done a great job..
Thanks Gary :) Yes Vortex is great. I still have the Graphix center - awesome speaker that worked well in this space, but the Vortex is a tank! I use the Zidoo Z9X and Apple TV for media up there.
I just bi-amp Krix phoenix speakers and it does sound better than before thankyou.
Your next project: installing a 13 channel home theater with 4 subwoofers in the bathroom
If I want to stay married... probably not!
Looks amazing, but the biamp being "instantly noticible"? are you sure that maybe the biamp setting on the amp wasn't accidentally turned on (for the non-biamp test)? I'm not against biamp I just find it strange that you would report such an extreme difference
I have a pretty good ear. I also listened to the setup well before biamping so it was very noticeable to my ear. Much more detail and more oomph in the midrange.
i see, makes me wish that my KEF q950 had biamp (my former less good speakers had biamp, but they might have not been high-end enough to be noticible)@@BuildMontage
@@Niberspace it’s possible. Every speaker is different. These LCR speakers are all 3 way speakers and really benefit from a bit of juice thrown at them. Absolute tanks and very cinematic but also musical as well.
Great Job! Great review. What ceiling mount did you use for the Xgimi Horizon. Also, how are the black levels on the projector? Alot of reviews complain about low contrast
I used a spare microphone 1/4" mount which worked perfectly for me! And people's claims about the XGIMI are not something Im familiar with. Check my review on it - plenty of contrast on my unit. I calibrated with a sensor. Possibly some issues with the preset modes - but I use a sensor and got it dialled right in!
Thanks about to purchase my first projector either the xgimi horizon or Hisense C1 can you post a picture of that ceiling mount or maybe a video? Thanks
Looks awesome Tony, love how the wall panels turned out. Have you got a link to the ones you got?
Thanks! I actually made them myself a using dress pine and Acoustic pinboard from Bunnings.
@@BuildMontage wow great job!!!
How do you biamp your front speaker using power amp and av receiver? Whilst still using the atmos and surround?
You use the pre outs on the back of the Reciever with a Y splitter to two channels on the amplifier. I keep the overhead speakers powered by the Reciever.
how are you finding the a8a sound wise? also in comparison to say the anthem mrx740 you reviewed a while back. have you tinkered with the manual PEQ's or just run YPAO and left it at that?
Love the RXA-8A, and I am also biamping with the MX-A5000 which is a tank of an amp - I have done a few YPAO but no manual PEQ of the speakers - I dont feel that I need to as the sound is great as it is - big beefy and beautiful!
Poor Tony's daughter...her room is right next to this setup...probably never gets to sleep 🤪🤪
I have them all used to it now, I can watch and crank it middle of the night and they don't wake up!
Great set up! Thanks for sharing Tony. What mount did you use for the xgimi?
Ha! This is the funny thing right... I was searching for a short 1/4" mount and could not find ANYTHING that would work even on Amazon. I was going through my drawers and found this short white mount which I think may have been for a microphone I bought years ago... And... it worked!
@@BuildMontage funny AND lucky. I’m considering a Xgimi as I have a dedicated space and currently running a 75” tv. I don’t have the budget to go for a Sony or JVC and between price and being the only longthrow with DV I’m considering a purchase.
What will you be doing for screen synced lightning on the 120"? I can't find anything for that size, and Hue's bars seem to have awkward zone issues when combining light strips.
I now have LIFX strips around the outside of it - that's all I could manage - nothing matches that is in the size I needed.
@@BuildMontage dang. Yea i don’t see anything over 100” in length either.
Insane that this is your secondary setup, also, FIRST!
Yeah kinda wild but wouldn't have happened if I didn't do RUclips... of that I have no doubt!
Xgimi Horizon Ultra vs Formovie X5 projector? What’s your pick? Please help me make a purchase decision.
Answered in the other video - but the fact Im using it when I have access to dozens and dozens of projectors should tell you something :) I have a link to it from Projectorscreen.com
@@BuildMontage thanks!
Room looks Amazing. I'm undecided on what to use for ATMOS speakers. There seems to be a lot of debate where to place ATMOS speakers, on the wall as front and rear heights or on top in the ceiling above as you have installed. Do you have a opinion which is the correct or best lay out. I'm looking at KRIX IC-50 for in ceiling, I have Polk r700 and R400 LCR would the KRIX IC-50 blend in with the polks, Also I like to upgrade to a 3 way center speaker like the Krix - Vortex Mk2 - Centre Speaker or svs ultra center instead of the Polk L400as it's is too expensive. Would any of those options blend in ok with my R700 fronts. Cheers.
Thanks, I really love this space to chill out in on the daily! Overhead speakers tend to suffer less from requiring a consistent mattched speaker as the bed layers do, and you can't go wrong with Krix, or the IC52 speakers. The Vortex for me was a goal as I had heard it many times and also have the bigger brother Epicentrix downstairs, so really wanted to go with it and I haven't looked back. I'd go listen to one and allow that to help make your decision.
@@BuildMontage Not many places to demo here in Qld unlike in Melb and Sydney. Thanks for your time to reply
Can you do a video on the calibration of the room?
What would you like to see? Calibration videos don't really do too well on RUclips... I mean, you plug the mic in and run the calibration. The video calibration is a little more interesting but takes hours to do as well as I'm not a professional, but I know enough to be dangerous!
@@BuildMontage I'm just curious on how the room is with reflections and bass, I've got an open room and it's a real pain with alot of compromise
@@andrew1977au sure, I’ll be discussing that in the actual room tour!
Thanks for sharing Tony. Your kids friends must want to always come down to your house, and I can't blame them lol. With 3 different home theater areas, I kinda want to come down too haha. Great job as always buddy.
Thanks brother, it is rather luxurious to have that many spaces.. do I need them? no, but I enjoy projects a lot. The main room is for discs and once a week type of deal, but upstairs setup is pretty much daily even if its 20 minutes before sleep. If you ever come down-under, you are more than welcome to come over!
which beamer is better JMGO Ultra or Xgimi Ultra?
I think Im leaning more toward the XGIMI for the extra throw distance with optical zoom and also Dolby Vision.
I gotta ask, how close is the center channel to seats and how close is the screen?
The screen is close to 4m from the seated position. The center channel is right under it and with the dispersion of that Vortex center you get very nice positional sound from it.
@@BuildMontage thank you for the response. This will allowed me to push my recliner a bit closer to the tv and add another row of seating
How come you like Kris so much? It looks like SVS. WE cant get Kris in the USA. Are they comparable to SVS?
Krix is a local Australian brand which I became obsessed with early on in my journey. I got the MX-10 wall of sound and then just kept expanding my collection over time. For me Krix has the best cinematic sound signature of any speaker I have listened to - there is a sparkle in the audio I just don't hear from other speakers. And no I don't think the US market is coming any time soon but I'm also not in the know!
Svs are a great speaker in their own right, i run them atm. I am upgrading to Krix though as a step up and because they do sound fantastic!
That overhead shot that pans around @ 2:40 is dope!
Thanks mate!
lol you do know thats better then most peoples dedicated rooms 🤣🤣
It kinda is a "dedicated" room but its not my intention for it to be so... Not a humble brag either.. It started out super duper casual and I sorta went overboard toward the end.
@@BuildMontage ye they always start like that then you finish and think what the hell 😂😂 this is not what I had in mind 😜
WATCH PART ONE - ruclips.net/video/_5Ni3502Iko/видео.html
Please help learn how to afford something like this?
Everyone has different means - I just work really really hard and have multiple jobs including RUclips which funded the build.