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Getting a Girlfriend is NOT an Achievable Goal
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- Опубликовано: 14 авг 2024
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2:45 - "Work On Yourself"
9:47 - What are you beliefs about dating
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"Work on yourself" is the equivalent of "Have you tried turning it on and off?"
You really don't have other option aside from a force
@OP
Thank you for some laughter :)
😂
@The Sight of Sound those deep problems can be resolved by working on yourself.
@@kattodoggo3868 🤯
"if you're socially awkward just give it 5 years"
Its been 15 years bro
true bro ahhaha
if a 15-year-old is typing this, then you missed the point
When you interact with people or meet new people, have you told them you are socially awkward? Or do you keep trying not be socially awkward?
I ask because of this: let's say I'm super socially awkward and go out with the mindset of pretending that I'm great at social stuff, hoping to fake it till I make it. What the other person sees is someone who isn't very adept at the social rules and this person is trying to hide this fact. They will question "why is this person not showing me who they actually are?" and "I don't feel comfortable being open with this person, they can't even be open with themselves".
If your goal is to beat being socially awkward by skipping the step of becoming comfortable with awkward social situations, you will fail continually. There is no action or piece of knowledge that will change everything.
But if you start from a place of "I'm socially awkward and pretty bad at this stuff", you are actually being open about something personal about yourself, you are not playing a game in your mind. Truly facing what makes you uncomfortable, with the expectation to be uncomfortable, is what will teach you how to comfortably communicate with others.
15 years of what? Of not leaving the basement? Or was it 15 years of grinding, making money, getting knowledge, investing resources into yourself, into your education, into your skills and into your future? If it wasn't the latter, then you kinda should start now; you don't get younger than right now.
Be greedy for knowledge, be curious, be outgoing, plan your day, ask people to share their knowledge if you can't figure it out yourself, don't be helpless, don't strive to be helpless (e.g. "I'm just not good enough and will never be able to learn guitar" is bad coping), don't complain to people
You are just 15 chill out
The worst part about modern dating is how hard it is to just talk to a new person. Nowadays, it's often considered weird or even outright creepy to talk to someone you don't know. *_Especially_* if you're a man talking to a woman. Even if you're in the fucking club or other social setting. The only foolproof way of actually meeting people nowadays is through other people. Good luck with that once you get out of school/college.
The barrier of entry to simply meet a new person nowadays, regardless of gender, is actually fucking ridiculous. I say this as a 24 y/o. We live in a very anti-social society and it's one thing I absolutely hate about being young in this generation.
modern dating is quite literally, 100% womens fault
men bare no blame on the current problem.
lets hope the next generation of women are higher quality than genz women, genz women are completely fucked in the head, on all levels.
This is a very random thing, but you should look at the sport of armwrestling. For me it's the origin of my current friend group. It's a great way to stay in shape, and the community is great. If you find a club near you then you might have the same experience. It also gives you something else to base your manhood off of. You can have it in your head "yeah that guy has a girl, but he wouldn't beat me at armwrestling." haha
Totally agree to this and any amount of approachability is even harder because any man attractive or not just trying to start conversation is look at by the woman as the same level as the people in her dm's you also have to think about why women are so easily creeped out and why so many are just afraid of men in general social media has evidently made people more anti social as a whole. The BEST thing to do in this world is to get rid of social media until you find your woman. the best motivation is conflicting interest.
@@chimera5542 Piggybacking on this, hobbies are the key. Meeting people through a mutual interest (whatever hobby it is) is by far the best way to meet people. It has to be a hobby with a physical component though, to physically meet up. Online meetups are not the same for this.
To avoid being "that guy", do not go into that hobby with the intention to date. Do it with the intention of enjoying the hobby and meeting people.
For me, personally, it's board games. I've met so many friends and maintained friendships through that hobby, and met my long-term gf through it.
Thanks for saying that, I have been saying this for years (ESPECIALLY after corona, Corona amplified the already slow change by a factor of like x1000).
I am 25 right now and I can remember in my youth just talking to random people and even touching them was the most normal thing ever in alot of contexts. Today there is no context AT ALL where that seems normal. Where is the going to a local park or beach or whatever and bringing other people you dont know to hang out with you. I have never experienced that for so long now that not even myself but other people do that. People, me included dont even try anymore because the majority of people are WAYY less open and approachable than 10 years ago and when pretty much everybody is not approachable anymore then even the most open and social people give up in talking to new people in most contexts. This is THE biggest thing I miss in todays sociaty and when I find a place where this is different, be sure that I relocate to that place.
Half of finding a relationship that works is sheer, dumb luck. Even when you work on yourself and actively look, you have to be in the right place at the right time or you get nowhere. This is what's happened to me: it's not that I haven't found any women I like, it's that every time I've looked, the women I like are taken already. There ain't shit I can do about that, and it's incredibly demoralizing, so I try to focus on being grateful for the other good things I have in life, instead.
Facts. Every single time I find a girl I like, without fail shes already dating a guy. And its like, why even try man.
You are so right im dealing with this word for word. Work on yourself but if you aren't in the right place right time right day you get nowhere after so long it bring your spirit down. Or you meet someone who taken or they have someone like babydaddy they on/off with. I don't want to lose hope but I'm frustrated getting nowhere im tired. I'm close to giving up or putting in effort.
Totally agree. Human relationships feel more random than learning a new craft. It is true that I could do more to increase my chances, but being ghosted in dating sites does more damage to my mental state than not trying.
I'm a junior in high school right now and I've been dating my current girlfriend for a few months now. I really tried putting myself out there at the beginning of high school, and didn't have any luck with the girls at my school. I started working out, dressing better, and improving myself. Girls at my school still weren't interested me. It wasn't until I went on a field trip to a musical for my English class, where a girl from another school airdropped a bunch of people her phone number to play iMessage games, that I met my girlfriend. I randomly decided to start talking to her over text, and we continued to get closer and closer and now we have been dating for nearly 5 months. It's like, the most random way to meet, and honestly the dumbest luck, but it will come to you. Have hope, and keep improving yourself. This will happen to you too.
Fax tbh
as someone who recently got into a new relationship, i can tell you that getting a girlfriend shouldn't be your goal - it should be something that comes along as you get more familiar and comfortable with the other person. if you're comfortable with a person (and they're comfortable with you) the relationship comes almost naturally. if it's meant to be that way, you don't really need to do anything special in order to get into a relationship with that person
People who think they need a "gf" actually just wanna have sex. As soon as "that" is understood on a personal level, priorities are becoming more clear and goals are easier to achieve.
That's a really hard mentality to get around to. Especially since a lot of people try to be friends because they want a romantic relationship
@@mr.dirtydan3338 Exactly. I think there is a fine line between a friendship and a romantic relationship and it can go either way pretty fast, so it's important to state your intentions as soon as they are clear to you.
Basically what i think and i have never been in a relationship (yet)
I dont believe in modern dating
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 yeah a gf is not a prize, they're a person...I sympathize but still
As an Indian, I give 15/10 for that 'work on yourself' North Indian impression 🤣
definitely not north indian 🤣 north indians would be more along the lines of 'arey jaake baat kr warna koi aur mil jayegi' (just go and talk to her or else there are more people)
his indian accent cracked me up
Unfortunately in the USA, Asians have the lowest ranking for interracial dating preferences. I think even Japanese/Korean/Chinese is more desired than Indian.
This is unfortunate, because Asians:Indians usually have higher incomes on average than all other races.
@@capitanclassic8624 Just be white
@@capitanclassic8624 it's getting better now for east Asian men cause of kpop and anime. India men tho idk lol
There was one girl i had a huge crush on and i went to ask her out. Mind you we had dinner and talk alot to each other, then when i went to ask her she said no and was not looking for a boyfriend. I respectfully said i understand and one week later she was dating this other guy. It really crushed me and i fell into a deep depression. Its been a year and just got over her. I told myself that im done chasing her and moved on.
She lied in an attempt to salvage your feelings. Sad, but life goes on.
exact same thing happened to me and i’m a woman
@@stupid7380now kith 👩❤️💋👨
Oh same thing happen to me as well. I end up work on myself and let her go. It hurt less if you work on yourself.
🫂 I'm sorry for you man. That's gotta hurt deeply
No girlfriend is far better than a bad girlfriend. It’s easy to forget this when you go it alone for a time.
It's still better to have a choice bro, get real.
No, it's not. I'm 27 and I get rejected and laughed at by girls because I've never had a girlfriend and have no sexual experience. Therefore I never even have a chance to get a partner. I would much rather have a girlfriend for 3 weeks and have at least SOME experience instead of being alone, lonely, childless and miserable for the rest of my life.
@@FlorianHWave I would rather not date sorry
@@williamspirralafton3143 I would rather die than being lonely and miserable for the rest of my life. It's already unbearable because there is virtually zero hope of ever finding a partner who tolerates my lack of experience.
@@miapokerdealer Agreed
Dr K. Thank you. I was so close to giving up and ending my life and one day one of your videos popped up and I watched it. A little over 1.5 years later and I’m the happiest I’ve been since I was a child. My life has turned completely around and I don’t know where I’d be right now if I didn’t press on that video. Thank you
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woah. same. it started with watching interviews with streamers that hit really, really close to home at times and then I started seeing some of HG's vids like these and it honestly dragged me out of a place of nihilism and hopelessness. there were other factors but Dr. K and HG were a solid 40% of what helped me.
what was that video?
yeah, what was the video!
Iii
As a guy in his 50s who's trying to reenter dating, one big understated roadblock is the lack of a network. When I was in my 20s and my friends were in their 20s and single, everyone was looking to help their friends find a date and you went in groups, which helped people feel safer to date.
Now, most of my friends are in their 40s and 50s, have kids, have full lives, and can't offer the same support network, so you're left almost entirely without support trying to figure out what they got right long ago, and a lot of the people who are eligible have their guard up because of past relationship issues. It makes it very difficult.
I'm in a similar situation, I'm 28 years old and all my friends are married, only I'm single.
That's true, without a Network it's very difficult, I'm having to go to the beach or the mall and approach girls like in those stupid youtube videos. But recently a friend got single and he often goes with me to try to make new friends. I don't have much to add besides the classic "work on yourself", this works, but one thing that helped me a lot was pairing up with this friend, approaching people (even if it's just to make friends) is actually a lot easier with a friend on the side.
@@invernofuyu2542 28 is still incredibly young so don't stress out too much. Also people nowadays do get married later so there are still plenty of people like yourself. What about using online dating as another method to find someone? I've found both of my past and current partners online. I think the "work on yourself" mantra is still a good thing to live by though, because if you are fully invested in yourself, with or without a partner, you'd still be able to live your best life. And it usually follows that the more you enjoy your own life, the more positive energy you attract and people will be drawn to you like a magnet. I can speak from experience about this.
Wait that's a thing that happens? I'm 24 and my friends have never done this
@@djjimmaster8261 women don't like to have unwed men around their husbands.
@@djjimmaster8261 Well in pre interenet gens
It's not a goal because goals are things that can be achieved by effort and determination. The sad fact is that what you do has almost no bearing on how another person feels.
Sadly this is so true and i have come to this realisation. This isnt something i can just work towards. Im just gonna focus on my cereer choice and hey. If one comes than one comes.
Your first statement of correct, but the things you do ABSOLUTELY will affect how other people feel about you, and you can absolutely take steps to make yourself more desirable
I completely disagree. People manipulate people in love and business everyday for better or worse. It is absolutely possible to turn a no to a yes in sales and relationships. It’s actually how the world works. I’m not saying it’s easy but seduction is real, it’s part psychology, part human experience but one person can absolutely change how another person feels. It happens every day
Incorrect. Entire industries are built solely on changing what people feel. Think marketing, public speaking, political campaigning or any form of dramatic art.
Of course getting a relationship is a goal.
I mean it does to some extent. It doesn't 100% control how they feel, but obviously it has some influence.
A lot of people especially my friends don’t understand that I can only take so much rejection at a time especially when all my life has been rejection and there hasn’t been any success for me relationship wise. The thing is I’ve tried dating apps and talking to people in real life but sometimes trying and only getting rejected makes my mental health worse. I don’t know how to find the balance of getting out of my comfort zone a healthy amount and doing it so much that it’s harmful.
'Reality' won't set in. The reality is that women will keep chasing chads and chadlites. That is the reality.
Everyone can only take so much rejection. That's why the majority of men are now single and no longer interested in dating. We hit our lifetime quota, finally got the message: women find us gross, and that's never going to change. The difference between men and women is that men can withstand a non-zero amount of rejection, whereas women simply die of it
I know exactly how you feel. The heart can only break so many times.
@@Tom-vq2hw I've found out that women don't want men they want one specific man, and that man is specific to that one woman. So all the advice about doing anything is mostly for you and just baseline being a somewhat good human and overall interpersonal relationships
Easy. Value yourself. Your time by yourself. And don’t place so much weight on any rejection.
Most dating advice can be summed up as "a watched pot never boils." And, honestly, I think this is what "earns" the frustrated responses. At least for me, I didn't even care about dating until after high school. And I went through high school without talking to a girl. No one showed an interest in me, and vice versa. But in my 20s, I really wanted to get to know girls. And made an active effort in interacting. And got nowhere, as I watched most of my graduating class get married. This shit gets to you!
Step 1: be attractive
Step 2: don’t be ugly
You would have had a gf in high school and 20s if you just followed these steps 🤦♂️
@@pepegabrain2569 as much as i despise black pill, they speak alot of truth there and sometimes the truth hurts : not what people want to hear
@@pepegabrain2569
Well not everyone can be pretty for everbody now, can they?
This is the way I look at it: those people are stuck, atleast if they have kids. We get to live our lives in our 20s instead of taking care of a kid or asking the wife if we can go out with the boys. I can be spontaneous with life. We have options. Sure that feeling is there, but I dont stress about it too much.
@@IRiTCHIExx thanks man
How I did it:
I came out of something long term last year, it was crushing. After focussing on my mental health for a while I decided to get on all the dating apps. Couldnt connect with anyone. So I decided to get off the apps and meet people through a hobby/ sport that I loved. But it had to be social so I could make new friends (and with any luck some girls too). I decided to start bouldering. I hadn't been in years but my bouldering gym has such a friendly culture. On my second visit I started a chat with another climber. We got along and he ended up introducing me to another guy and a really cute girl. I really just thought she was with the guy so I didn't pry. About two weeks later I saw her climbing by herself and said g'day. I asked her where her boyfriend was and she said "what boyfriend?". After climbing together for a bit and chatting we arranged to go climbing together two days later. That turned into dinner and here we are. It was the most natural connection I've ever built and still a little unbelievable considering the dates I had online.
How the hell do you just strike up a conversation with someone? Knowing me I'd hold a conversation about bouldering and that would be it. No Space for Personal Stuff.
So to get into a relationship all you need to do is have previous long term relationships. Thank you for your input, wasn't helpful at all. It's pretty insulting that you thought that your experience of being single for less than a year was somehow relevant to this discussion.
@@pajander Him being in a previous relationship has nothing to do with the way he found a new girl. You sound bitter and resentful.
@@Muscaplays Of course it does. Having previous relationships is the strongest predictor for success in future relationships. It's just that it's completely useless advice for all the people who actually need help in this area of life. I'm guessing this dude's advice to a paraplegic would be "well, have you, like, tried walking?".
@@pajander he gave specific advice that had nothing to do with his previous relationship. How that compares to telling a paraplegic to walk is beyond me
"One night we just hooked up"...yeah, listen, that's the part we don't understand. How do you go from "oh she is cool to, oh we just hooked up and decided to stay exclusive". That makes no sense at all. That is like saying, i found this cool job as astronaut, i just applied and now i am on mars. That's not a explanation for the "how" it's just a story.
Because they don't actually want to help you.
It's jusr social skills and luck. It's not rocket science. It LITERALLY just happens. There's not really better advice than that, unless you want to try some type of machiavellian, manipulative tactics.
They are mostly either liars or they are bagging bottomfeeders. A lot of these guys literally re sleeping with 2/10 SMV chicks. These are gross & nothing to envy.
@@ArdarailThere actually is better advice than this. It isn’t “just luck”. While you can’t dictate how other people feel about you, it can be heavily influenced.
And there are a certain set of characteristics and demeanor that a man can pick up that sleeping with woman much more consistent. The men who struggle typically have some sort of road block or a set of self defeating characteristics.
The f-boy all the girls complain about isn’t just “lucky”. He just got lucky with the whole school and all the popular girls? No, he’s behaving in a certain manner.
You’re right in saying that it’s not rocket science. But you’re wrong when you say that it’s only luck and little more. And no it’s not all machivalian or manipulative tactics.
you have to be attracted to each other for intimacy to happen if (pardon the pronoun usage) she wants you and you create openings and make it clear you’re available to her she will be intimate with you
Chemicals in the body don’t lie
Be someone you would bang and keep working towards that goal and someone will try you on
The sad reality is you don't "get" a partner. Like he said it's like a loot box. You can increase your chances, but you literally never may get one. I think that's the sad part and why it makes everyone pretty sad.
Yeah. A huge portion of life is luck. Very intelligent and wise people of the past knew this. Our societys today cant believe that anymore because you know. yOu CaN dO eVerYthiNG yoU WanT iF yoU jUSt woRk hArD enOuGh!!! Mindeset - issues and such. Sure, sure. And I have to say that psychotherapy is kind of the same. No one will ever tell you that it might take a lifetime to get out of your problems. Or two. Or three. Or never ever. But thats reality for a lot of us.
@@coldshatterhand I feel like that is an unspoken truth about life is that some or lots of people can try very hard but end up living unfulfilling lives filled with loneliness abuse and rejection and very rarely will anyone really care and lots of people will laugh at someone suffering (the germans call this schadenfreude) most will laugh behind someones back later and some really evil people will do it in someones face.
Getting a girlfriend is one thing, how about getting a "quality" girlfriend, and furthermore "keeping" a girlfriend? How many of those people say "yes this worked and I got a gf" but don't tell you that it didn't last?
i spent my 20s trying to master talking to women, taking them on dates and all of that.
i've had a very successful dating life. but none of my relationships last. they're different skills for sure.
You gotta pick girls that aren't nuts, look out for dad issues.
If you're looking for a "quality" girlfriend, then you need to make yourself appealing to a woman like that. If that doesn't work, you're trying to date someone to profit from her and no woman is really into being used this way.
@@476f7474ah yes just make myself appealing why didn't we all think of that...how stupid of us
unironically, sell out and go to church lol. try and get some trad baddies to love u and god lol
The biggest problem I have with finding a girlfriend is mostly just because I live a livestyle that doesn't meet many new people, and frankly, the kind of person I'm looking for is also someone like that. Think, Hermit seeking Hermit lol. Lack of networking really hurts sometimes. It always feels skeezy just approaching random women to strike up a conversation with a goal being to find someone to date, but I'm not the kind of person that demands a lot of friendships attention outside of a small group.
There are plenty of fish in the sea, but it matters not to the man that lives in the desert.
Finding a girlfriend has always been a... conflicting motivation to every other goal I have in life. I want to do exactly what I'm doing now, but with companionship, but I seemingly can't find companionship doing what I do.
I'm feeling very depressed and lonely for 3 years now. I hate feeling like this. I hate it. I will never find a special puzzle piece in my life to spend time with and I really don't know what it means to find it. I hate big and upper ranks RUclipsrs and artist online. Look at me, I'm just a lower rank. I'm no upper rank. Sometimes I really wish to be erased from reality and the universe. Maybe that would make them happy so they can be satisfied. I'm thinking about doing it now. I have no one. Those upper ranks do but not me. I still have friends and family, but there is one special thing that i really need in my life and I really don't know what it is right now.😞
I had to screenshot this because I couldn't have said it better
You have to risk experiencing hella awkward and cringe moments through social interactions. There's just no other way around our own neuroticism. Some people don't overthink social interactions. A sense of wonder and curiosity of the bigger world as I move around in it. And the opportunities that lie to meet and be drawn to the cool people you come across. Striking up random conversations with strangers just comes naturally to me at this point. Analysis paralysis over the trials of relationship dynamics waste time from actually just experiencing them for yourself. No one comes out of them unscathed. That's the cost for the good stuff of life worth while. No one is entitled nor guaranteed to the same degrees of joy and fulfillment they can bring.
A hermit man wanting a hermit wife doesn't make sense to me, and frankly I have never heard of or seen it before unless the woman in question was 200+ pounds and living a very unhealthy lifestyle.
I am guessing your "lifestyle" is excessive gaming. Without more info, there is only so much I can say, but I can assume you likely spend most of your free time gaming to some capacity, and even a "hermit" woman likely wouldn't be too attracted to that in a man unless his lifestyle was making them rich.
You really can't achieve much without sacrifice, and in your case I assume you need to spend fewer hours inside doing leisure time, and more time outside just walking around your town/city on foot, going shopping in person (no ordering every meal/grocery), and perhaps even finding ways to help other people in person.
I apologize if I am assuming incorrectly how you live, but I am projecting a bit. I use to game 5+ hours a day after work, get fast food most days (microwave the other days), was 70 pounds overweight, did not really exercise, and it wasn't until my early 30s that I finally realized how stupid I had been. I lost the weight, got reasonably muscular/toned through mostly calisthenics at home (only had pull up and dip bars), started cooking basic stuff for myself 95% of the time, and most importantly I shaved about 3-4 hours off of my gaming time to go outside just to walk around (getting sunlight is the best way to get vitamin D which helps with just about every other vitamin being absorbed properly as well as deal with depression) and talk to random people which slowly but surely improved my near non existent social skills.
Men and women are vastly different. Even if you found a woman to game with all of the time... how long can such a relationship last? How good would that be for potential children? Would you make time for family on both sides? Would she? What example would you be setting to a person you are suppose to be leading through life? I had to answer these questions to myself, and no matter how much I thought about it; no matter how much philosophical debate I listened to or how much I wanted life to be different... the bottom line is that marriage means you have FAR less time than otherwise and countless more responsibilities. Many people get divorced because they do not accept this from the get go.
Yeah, this is my problem. I’m aroace so not necessarily looking for romance, but I do want someone who can be a consistent part of my life and I can share my hobbies, interests, etc. with.
Bad part is, I’ve never really fit in with the kind of people in my area, and I don’t really have the means to go elsewhere on a regular basis. So networking outside of college has been next to impossible…
35 and gave up on this idea of ever having a relationship after 10 years of back-to-back rejections, from 20 to 30. I'm done. I've accepted that I am not destined to be in one. Relationships are like car break-ins for me. They happen to other people
ive given up too, because i followed people's advice. ive "accepted loneliness" and worked on myself. so now i neither want or need a girlfriend. and getting a girlfriend would literally be someone taking advantage of everything ive built. why would i do that? its like the only option for men is to grow strong enough so that you can become a luxury doormat instead of a cheap doormat. f*ck all that shit. just get yourself a sugar baby and gaslight/manipulate her. this is the new meta for men. those women could be dating men their age that could really use someone who believes in them, but she wants the made-man. so get yourself a made-woman.
Great. I believe you. So where do you go from here? Maybe start with some heavy drinking, high frequency masturbation, and aggressive outbursts. When that becomes tiresome you'll have to find other ways to entertain yourself.
@AlexZeBeast yeah like gambling, drugs
@@AlexZeBeast The fact you see relationships as a form of entertainment akin to masturbation or drinking shows you have hangups of your own.
Someone giving up on love and not troubling anyone about it is a much better person than someone who claims you have to be in one because it's more entertaining than a good wank.
@@george1449
gaming
I think being in relationships help you mature and grow as a person much more than seeking therapy or supposedly trying to 'fix' yourself. With relationships you have real situations and choices you have to make; real failures and successes, thus helping you navigate future relationships better, whereas with therapy you're just hearing the same advice over and over again.
Who do you think will have an easier time getting in a relationship - a thirty year old with no relationship experience who's spent his whole life 'working on himself' or a thirty year old who started dating in high school and lived through having relationships and learnt from his mistakes?
Would you find never being in a relationship at 22 is still as bad as it would have been at 30? I am a 22 year old guy who never had a girlfriend before and it bothers me a lot. Btw is a month long enough to know whether someone is interested in me or not? I asked out my childhood friend who is 21 now turning 22 soon but she isn't that active on Instagram so even though she agreed to meet up she haven't replied yet about when we can meet. I have been chatting with this another girl on Instagram since 28th May 2023 and she is 19 now and in 1st year of college and I am in last year of college. We are in different colleges now but we used to be in the same school but didn't know each other in school. So we only have been getting to know each other for a bit over a month. Her college is very near to my home tho. We chat daily and talk about literally everything and we are both foodies too and send each other virtual hugs but there isn't any flirting in the chats yet. It looks like she still sees me as a friend. I wanna ask her out but is 1 month already long enough to know whether she is interested in me or not or does it take longer?
but your mistakes are at the cost of someone else.
And lots of times people don't learn anything from relationships and end up staying miserable in them or becoming single again only to repeat the cycle
@@manosijroy8282 Try it out, waiting will only give you regrets. 1 month would be enough to ask her out especially if you talked to each other quite often. Never being in a relationship at 22 isn't bad just less common, just be careful cause obviously you'll be inexperienced (tell that you are eventually tho)
If you never learn to be happy with yourself, you'll never be able to learn from mistakes in a relationship. Everything will be your fault because you're worthless in your eyes, but you'll never actually accept responsibility. You'll just call yourself worthless as an excuse, and every relationship will end the same, and you'll never know why until you take the time to step back and work on yourself. Looking at most pervasive problems in relationships, it all boils down to a lack of self esteem or confidence in some direction. (Clinginess, desperation, jealousy, etc)
As a guy who was alone for as long as I can remember, living in loneliness is a daily psychological struggle, I'll tell you what. Have been close to forming a romantic relationship last year, but the baggage has stopped it dead in its tracks and my insecurities destroyed any chances of having a platonic relationship on top of it. It's been somewhat of a wake-up call for me to not let those doomer thoughts to drown me, but with every failure, every moment where I feel weak, that part of me starts to push those negative thoughts out in the open again.
I feel ya
I RELATE man , my insecurities destroy everything too
Yup me too
I think the thing is, they have insecurities too, so try to be more open about that, about not only your strong side, but your weak side too. Not only it might help, because they will also open about their weak points, but if it becomes a relationship, it will surely be much stronger one
Finding a partner won't fix your mental health problems. In fact, it will most likely lead to you getting dumped.
"Working on yourself" is forever, it's not just for finding a relationship. I'm a married woman and I'm always doing it. You have to do both, working on yourself and working on your relationships.
great your right working on yourself is forever so what exactly am I'm supposed to do to get a relationship.
@@creeperkingdom3190 Make a list of your needs and wants, if you can comfortable fulfill like a good 75% and the remaining 25% isn't something that'll add unnecessary baggage on someone's life, then find someone that will compliment the positives, and maybe even fulfill some of that lack.
At the end of the day it's balancing your own needs and wants with someone else's, hopefully in a balanced manner.
@@creeperkingdom3190 I'm a pretty unusual woman. I like to actively pursue a shy boy who has a well above average IQ and a cute face. I can only advise someone similar to myself about relationships specifically, probably. My husband won me over by saying weird stuff, being shy and awkward, and talking about history and politics instead of trying to send me pictures of his pp. We each have our own path, anyone who gives cookie cutter advice on how to find love is selling you lies. We can only give generalities about how to be a healthy enough person with good enough social skills not to scare people away. The rest is unfortunately up to each of us to work out.
@@creeperkingdom3190 you're not supposed to "do" anything. You're supposed to meet people and find someone you're compatible with whose needs/wants you can meet and who will meet your needs and wants. As long as you both view each other as individuals instead of milestones or assets then you'll have a healthy relationship.
relationship is a not chore
20:22 “When you’re least expecting it is when it is most likely to happen”. I have never understood this concept and would enjoy a video on this subject.
It's based on nothing and is used largely by people that never actually struggled with dating.
@@nightfighter7452Kinda true, i was surprised that some girls i had no interest in in highschool took a liking in me. However when i don't expect things now it doesn't happen no one gives a flying fucks. Anyway it true and false depending on where you stand, and I will die on a hill for saying that those "organic relationship bonding" are real life equivalent of love stories (that girls especially have always liked when growing up by the way) that only attractive people or normies get to live.
When you are not tryharding you are having fun and are most likely to win if anxiety is your major reason for losing a game in general...overthinking, anger, yelling at teammates is all bad and you are going to lose. Some of this also applies to real life
What bothers me about this process is that for men the advice is “put constant effort into every facet of your life for half a decade and maybe, only maybe, you’ll end up in a relationship.” Whereas for women it’s literally just “download hinge or bumble”
Dude, it's not exactly easy for us women either. You're blissfully unaware of our struggles with dating because you want to date women, not other men.
You feel the same way about women as I do straight and non autistic people lol
@@eluunn "struggles"
Lmao, you don't struggle as a woman in the dating world.
@@AppleOfThineEye The lived experience of me and my friends says otherwise 🙃
@@eluunn I press X to doubt on your shared "lived experience"
🙃
19:12 "Finding a romantic partner is opening a loot box"
That explains a lot to someone that never buys them.
This is the best analogy ever, because both romantic relationships and loot boxes are absolute scams made by the burgeouisie.
😂 someone is trying to make them illegal
Like, when you go on a date you either get someone really cool, someone hyper toxic or nothing at all. That's the analogy, because lootboxes are RNG, you can get cool items or just garbage.
@@MissPopuri We need to make illegal those who want to make them illegal.
@@MrToradragon 😂 do you want a bootleg copy of Asmongold then? How much?
I grew up being told I was worthless. I was bullied, and women would look at me with utter disgust. I would be told that they were offended I had even tried. I even had experiences where the woman in question would tell me that dating me would make her feel like she failed in life, after going on to date an abusive man.
And you know what? I had been working very hard on myself. It didn't work. Only when I stopped caring, lost my brother to illness, and let myself go, and approached dating as "Whatever happens happen" mindset, did I end up finding my first real girlfriend that I would stay with forever.
I was told "You should love yourself first before seeking a relationship". Worst advice I have ever received. The success from this one relationship gave me the confidence I needed to put some things behind me. I became a good cook, got multiple promotions, became a rock for her when she needed it.
Now I realize that it wasn't because I wasn't good enough. Either thise women were not compatible with me, or they missed their chance to get a caring and devoted boyfriend.
I don't actually believe that the assessement that 5 years can just get you a girlfriend makes any sense. Sometimes, no matter how hard you work, nothing comes of it. I am 100% conscious that luck played a big role in my current relationship. I am thankfull, and while my work may have helped, dying alone was a very possible outcome. I still have male friends who suffer rejection after rejection. Yeah, sure, you should keep trying, but life isn't fair. You sometimes must fight a lot harder than most, and there is no guarantee you will succeed. But you are worth it. You owe it to yourself to keep trying. My friend sometimes rants to his friends about how tough it is to find someone despite trying so hard to grow as a person. He gets called an "incel". Instead of supportive comments, he gets beaten down. I went through that too.
Being given a chance is huge. And of course, now that I am settled, I get hit on all of the time x_x
did you build a good physique?
@@T.R.A.I.N.I.N.G. didn't need to. I found a woman that likes my intelligence.
@@Vigilanteblade what the hell
@@anima94 well, I had a French name in an English Canadian school, so I was mistreated as a result.
@@Vigilanteblade nah the what the hell was about finding a woman that's into intelligence, that's usually a neutral trait to most people
"Work on yourself", while there's many people who haven't worked on themselves a day in their life or don't meet even half the things listed at 19:48, and yet they instantly get a gf in the first 8 months of college or have all the sex in the world.
For automatic thoughts, what if they're based on constant experiences in life of let down, and it's not the situation where you're thoughts turns into your attitude and perspective, which makes a self fulfilling negative prophecy come true? The automatic thoughts are actually correctly consistently. Sure I'll stop letting my past experiences shape my behavior now, ok then, the negative shit is still happening regardless of how happy and cherry I am. Because even when people do make a post saying they have a healthy amazing relationship and start giving advice. That advice just usually ends up being "work on yourself". I even saw a comment in the video say, "a relationship won't make you auto happy, work on developing your interests, hobbies, and career". But that clearly doesn't work. I have a plenty of hobbies like art and dance, and a bright future in tech. But for example, every girl isn't interested in dance or says they'll be SOOO bad at it. And then don't give a shit about any of my hobbies or future goals.
The first sentence is also what I cant understand. Why do I need to go through difficult times to get a gf while that other random dude gets all of it doing nothing? Thats not fair.
@@thecelebrimbor6875 That's right, life ISN'T fair. And never will be, until the end of time!
@@thecelebrimbor6875
Because
A this person just had luck (but you can increase chances, but not ensure)
B this person did the work actually at some other point in their lives.
C this person was raised or grow up in away that some of these characteristic developed by ongoing.
D this person had luck with being physically attractive
So some have luck their entire life, but that are very few. for example a girl i knew, way above average family in wealth, both parents academic, beautiful. and got easily into med school where i had to work hard to get into. She got money from parents i had to work. but than her father divorced her mother, found a younger women and didnt even want to pay any more. she was cut of financially really fast, could get aid from government cause she need documents from her father. she needed to sue her father in the end lost nearly 1 years of med school and nearly had to drop out completely.
So to few everything comes with luck and naturally, most have to something very easy and something very hard, and few a fucked by life at every corner.
For me with girls, it was C, a little bit of D, and than B later in life.
As i was growing up i was neither a ladys man not alone forever guy, i had a girlfriend with 15, didnt work out after some kissing and hanging out for 6 month. Had another girlfriend with 17 for a year, she was my first real love. 3 year later i met my first wife. (So far above average, i always did sports (not gym) but cycling and swimming so was above average fitness, wasnt dumb, and was raised to be unapologetic myself. i did cool stuff like owning a motorcycle, but did uncool things like liking anime and the wrong anime. Try liking sailor moon as a 15 year old boy in the 2005. I wasnt bad ad sports but instead of woodwork and handcrafts, i did knitting, stitching and textilcrafts ("thats so gay") Not all but some girls liked that, because authenticity helps. After the marriage with my first with was good, and than became a car crash after some injuries my and carrier problems as a soldiers my wife got really depressed, my father got cancer, my mom got cancer. in my second half of med school. It took my 4 instead of 2 years completing it. After these 4 year, my wife was okay but we divorced, my father dead, my mother okay, i was burnout and had 280 pounds BMI 39, and was so angry, bitter/zynic all the time. few girls wanted to be near my, i wasnt attractive and the few that did, i pushed away. and in general i wasnt really able to talk to people. i could either just talk for 30min or not respond at all. i took 3-4 year, getting too 190 pounds BMI of 26, letting go of the anger, being able to do normal conversation again. And approaching 30 i was a doctor, i was fit and not fat, had full hair, around 6,1 wasnt and was being able to be around people with out hating them or making them hate me. And around that time another guy in my "chess" club approach me and said i have it easy. Cause i have all the things women like, and being born with it. The guy wasnt dumb but in 10 years never finish university, and was still studying. He never did sports, he was tall. in communication he never adapted to people they always had to adapt to him. He rarely gave praise, but people had to praise him for the smallest feat. Few are have all of the disadvantages like being short, with hormonal disease which keep them fat, have lost their hair in their twenties, are genetically not able to reach above 90 IQ so most can reach a certain stages where there chances are good. But have to do the work, and building on their advantages and compensating their disadvantages. (So first most go through difficult times at some point and did the work) and while life is not fair, and most just get dealt averages hands, you can either play your trump cards and avoid your defaults or cry about it and never play. The Choice is yours, and while working on yourself will be the hardest you have ever done, it will be possibly the most rewarding, just for the inside rewards/effects not even counted the outside rewards like praise, looks, relationship, work life success.
I used to struggle with anxiety when talking or trying to hit on girls I liked. I'm not telling the stupid sh*t that came out of my mouth because of this. What helped me resolve this falls under the category "working on yourself" but also going one step further by slowly but surely expanding your comfort zone.
What worked for me was concentrating solely on having small interactions with girls, random or otherwise, without (and this is super important ) any wish to proceed or escalate things. I basically removed the stakes so I can focus on improvement and not on outcome.
I started with girls that I had 0 desire to date and got to girls that at the time I thought were way out of my league. The interactions also evolved from "Hi what's the time? I forgot my phone at home." to getting bonus points for saying something witty and making them smile or maintaining a pleasnt, unintrusive eye contact longer etc.
It worked so well I took this step by step apprach in most aspects of my life and now this is how I teach my kids to start and progress in topics that seem daunting and scary.
Hope this helps someone ✌️
I like that. I won't speak on the Women's side of the matter because I'm just a guy but a lot of guys grow up not having been taught how to interact with girls without being awkward or coming across as creepy. You just have to learn it, step by step, little by little and never reject kindness and respect as you've eased into it.
When are you all gonna learn that women are nothing but wh 00 res who use you and only like you for what you have or what you look like? Every single one of them can get any guy they want and they know this. They only want tall good-looking guys with money. If that's not you, then you're screwed, and you're gonna be alone until you die, just like me.
@@as-above-so-below-Maybe this is how I grew up, but as a woman I'm afraid to talk to other women.
Unironically, these videos push me closer to giving up.
Edit: given up. Not about a girlfriend - just in general.
Yea... all we can really do is try and change things for future generations, but most men will never break free of the mentality. It isn't as easy as "focus on yourself". I already work, survive, and try to be respectful to people. No one on this planet is perfect, and everyone has flaws. If this is the return of polygamy, then it is what it is.
@@someone-ji2zb Lmao right? I'm worried about putting food on the table and lifting, not jumping through firey social hoops for some cheap head.
get off internet and go somewhere where people are, otherweise just give up
@@NewportNibbler lol 🤣🤣
Me too this videos and comments makes me feel that it's impossible not the other way around. don't they think we have tried all of that? I feel so hurt and making other having success only makes me feel worse.
Psychologist here. I completely agree with your assessment of the “therapy” space, and I’ve focused my professional development on doing both counselling AND coaching, depending on what the client needs. It’s bizarre to me that these are seen as separate things in our field. Thanks for putting out all your resources
because it’s helped me fill in the gaps of my own skill set.
Your welcome?
Most men make shitty partners so now that women can make their own money there's no incentive to stay or get into a shitty relationship
Thank you for working to take care of people, psychology might become one of the most important jobs, and I hope it will become more easily accessed in the future.
Thank you for doing what you do, you're a good person!
Today's society must be great for business.
But a psychologist can't make the work of coach? Aren't the competence of a terapist enough to be a coach?
I'm a 22-year-old with high-functioning autism. Never been intimate with anyone. I'm touchstarved all the time and it hurts.
Also, don't pretend five years isn't a long time. It absolutely is.
1 year is a long time
@@teaadvice4996 You are correct.
Hearing this gives me motivation good luck on your journey!
@@Darkinse You too, brother.
@@AppleOfThineEyeI'm only in 9th grade, so apologies if this topic is out of my depth, but I wish you the best of the best!
In the US today (2023), if you are an average looking man and don't make a lot of money, your chances of dating an attractive woman are quite slim. Dating Apps have ruined everything for the average guy. As time goes on, there will be more single people, less families and less children (which I think is a good thing). I'm glad I didn't have to deal with this dating app crap when I was young. I never would have got a date.
Probably because average looking guys think they deserve attractive- aka ‘better looking’ women. Bowl in your league and stop being an entitled prick.
I don't even want a super attractive girl, I'd be happy dating an average girl. My one standard is "don't be fat" because I'm not fat and I'm not going to let myself become fat.
Yet somehow all the people I see with families are average or below average looking dudes.
Y’all lying to yourselves.
"We've all been raised by those who praise control of population..." Red Hott Chilli Peppers.
I've known men who most people would consider "chads" struggle to find women to date, and average looking guys who haven't been single most of their adult lives. Being hot and rich helps, but it's not a prerequisite.
"What needs do you meet by sabotaging yourself" is such a great question to think about. Gotta give this one a lot of thought! Thank you so much for asking it
no its not
...but it's very hard to answer on your own. The answers are so counterintuitive and paradoxical that they may not even come to mind, especially when mental disorder skews perception. That's where therapy (also this channel) can really help.
What needs do you meet by trying and failing? Sabotage everyone, that way everyone suffers.
Self Preservation, by preventing yourself from entering destructive situations. Simple.
incoming failure gets ou to a worse place where are you at
People gamefying relationship like it's a stage you have to clear to get to the next stage is what ruins the charm of forming a relationship with other people for me, it even made me think I was aromantic even though I really do want to have a romantic relationship with someone
im also questioning whether im aromantic.
a lot of people seem to have this strong desire to be in a romantic relationship and will go out of their way to be in one (like doing dating), however i dont have a strong need or desire for a romantic relationship at all and i dont put any effort into finding one.
i do believe that a romantic relationship would probably be nice (under the circumstances that im not aromantic), however its not a something that i really care about achieving
@@TheFlyfly I’ve had these same thoughts but found that I’m just much more selective and less prone to enthusiasm about dating. Because once I met a certain person the “I would love a relationship with this person” feeling hit as I would expect it does for anything else.
So might just also be very selective about who you’d actually want a relationship with?
I've finally accepted I don't trust women, or the idea of 'love', enough to take any of them seriously. They will always be ungrateful children and liabilities to me.
It's quite extraordinary to be able to do such deep introspection, you are definitely able to provide a better romantic relationship after realising how much you actually want it. I believe in you! I actually am aromantic and it took me a long time to figure out (4+ years after a 7 year relationship, she broke up with me, soon two years since the realisation) Those 4 years caused quite a lot of mental distress as i was fighting the pressure to not be lonely and society and friends shouting at me its because I have no gf. Nah it was because I didn't know who I was, I still want to find some fwb essentially, but if romance aint your thing, you can be totally happy without it.
some people legitimately are bad at and don't enjoy trying to start new relationships of any kind but still would actually good at being a friend or partner if they could get past that nebulous initial stage of how? where? who? - for me unfortunately there is very little charm to be had in it and just accepting that I'll be uncomfortable a lot of the time until I get past that part 🙃
Why is it so hard finding a therapist like you omg ?! In a previous video you have been saying that bad therapists are the ones that don’t adapt their knowledge to you but I’ve been watching your videos for a while and you have been SPOT ON !
It’s like you know my life and how my own brain works without you ever needing to hear me talk
Thank you for this channel ! It really does make a difference and my life a lot easier ❤
I feel very similar. This channel is so different than other ones; they don't try to tell you what to do they tell you how things are according to their experience with people that have been in the same situation. I feel so much validated and also that I'm not the only one struggling with specific aspects of life.
He is literally one of the best in the world. That's not hyperbole. At all.
when i was looking i got nowhere. when i don't try i get nowhere. being myself didn't work. working on myself didn't work. 34 year old virgin. i'm done.
Dr. K is so good at putting words to things I intrinsically feel but can’t verbalize
Bro I swear every good therapist/psychiatrist/mental health specialist is like this and genuinely believe that's what makes them so important
Dr. K and all the other people making these posts
Do you mean intuitively?
@@rama-rao-y8u Read and educate yourself on different subjects and it will come naturally.
I agree, the feeling of "where is the job" is valid considering how much work some people put in. there is ego there so I just recognize it
The beginning of Dr. K's talk hits home for me to a great degree. I'm now 40, and the main focus of the vast majority of my life was working towards a relationship - someone to enjoy life with and go through all of life's tribulations with. I have also wanted a kid of my own very much for a long time. Since I was 19 that had been my primary focus.
I actually did eventually get into a few relationships, and some of them were great, and each one taught me more about myself, and others. In the end each one of them didn't work out, and then I got back into the same cycle - blaming myself, working on myself, trying to get better, checking more boxes and checking the big boxes harder.
Last year I decided to go back to college - again I'm now 40, so it's a bit later in life. Currently that is my primary focus. I still want to find someone, and I still want a child of my own to raise with my partner. I'm starting to feel like I'm dangerously close to not being able to achieve that goal because of my age, I know men can have kids much later, but I also want to be with someone around my age.
For now I'm focusing on college and I do feel great about that, but there's this despair that I won't ever achieve the goals I have worked towards for more than half my life.
I could only imagine that sinking feeling you would feel by someone in your position. It sounds like it's been a difficult journey my dear internet stranger. I, too, am in the same position but at 29 and with the same goals, but I have been reflecting on a why I want to start a family. It's funny, but the anime spy X family Helped make me think about this. Upon reflection, I have affirmed my own beliefs of why I want a family and relationship, and what I want to make out of it. I am now more determined and ready than ever haha. I truly believe there is someone out there for everyone! Keep that fire of hope burning big guy! 40 is the new 30 after all 😆
I'm in the same boat, only just turned thirty. Never had a stable relationship though, although a loving, everything bare relationship being the only thing I ever wanted from early teens. I can totally relate to the existential crisis, and hope life would surprise us all with something in the future.
Knowledge is far more pleasurable than sex, in my opinion
40 is the new 30 anyway.
Hey, thanks for sharing. Wish you the best at love and college. Women are less judgy about age of men as long as they like them, don’t see why you wouldn’t score some chick there.
ive been "working on myself" for almost 20 years with nothing to show for it that make me happy. Im a better person but that hasn't helped me almost at all in many things, especially relationships
Cant work on your face unfortunately
@@ykonratev fortunately my face is just fine, most likely unlike yours since thats a sign of projection
If working on yourself hasn't made you happy, perhaps ypu haven't been working on the right things? After all, what's really the point if you feel like that?
Sounds like you should just focus on helping others.
Help someone live the life you wish you had
I think the loss of third spaces also plays into this, We know what to do, but not any of the rest, not when, not where, not how long it will take. We need to do more than improve ourself, we need to go places we can meet people who are also looking to enter into a relationship. And we are losing those places. The places you need to go to meet these people are disappearing, and the places like bars and such aren't where people go any more, so its harder to meet people, so it takes longer.
I went 28 years without a gf. I gave up on the dating apps. I just thought I wasn't that attractive despite "working on myself" and being relatively social. One day I went to the temple fror music classes and ended up falling for the girl siting at the reception desk. She was teaching my classes and eventually I asked her out and things worked out. 3 years later we are now getting married. I wasn't looking for love and found it in a holy place...not a bar/club where I had been searching for years with no luck. My 2 cents, go out there and do social activities that help you make more friends. Keep doing it. You got this!
"once you get out of your own head" is really the key take away I think everyone should focus on.
But how?????
@@venrakdrake do
once u get off of ur own head Kreygasm
@@venrakdrake work ,doing ,move ,connect ,build ,learn ,understanding stuff..
@@venrakdrake try to talk with all kind of people just for the sake of talking with them. It helps. If you don't have any expectation or goal you can relax.
This topic brought back some stuff for me. I am a man of deep faith, and truly believe that my callin in life was to be a father. I was an athlete in college, very active socially, but after facing nothing but rejection from women my whole life, I concluded there must be something wrong with me. I had no idea what it was but women could sense it.
This was at the height of the Global War on Terror. I was deeply impacted seeing news reels of wives and children of service members at funrals. If I could prevent even one child from loosing their father I had to do it. If I couldn't be a father, I could die in one's place. That would be my contribution to society. That's how I would fulfill my calling.
I joined the Marine Corps at 27. I want to be clear that this was not a suicide mission, it was a mission to protect families. I would find a way to bring guys back to their families or die trying. When I got to the fleet met a girl who was a friend of one of my buddies. I jokingly asked if she'd marry me, just on paper, and we'd split the extra money I'd get (Don't actually do that, it's illegal). To my surprise, she asked why don't we just get married for real. We went to the courthouse a couple weeks later and did just that. 14 years and 2 kids later we're still married. Turns out God had a different plan for me.
To be clear, you should NOT do what I did. It could have ended very poorly for me. My point is if you have a higher purpose behind what you do in life, be it faith or something else, and you let that guide you, things tend to take care of themselves. Once I set out on my mission from God, without knowing it I started making all the improvements I needed to attract a woman and become a father. When I was looking for something greater than a relationship, I found one.
Find a purpose, not a woman. When you have a higher purpose, that's when you start working on yourself. That's when you stop looking. And that's when it'll happen.
And a uniform doesn't hurt.
Good luck and Godspeed.
This comment actually made me tear up. God is real and this is undeniable evidence.
Glad to hear probably the only case of a boot marrying a girl he just met and it actually working out. Semper Fidelis brother.
this resonated with me more than any other comment here, thank you
Glad you were able to find purpose and a relationship through the military. It's too bad though that the war we were fighting at the time didn't really do much to make the world safer and led to plenty of kids losing their fathers in the Middle East.
I had an incredibly poor male role model in my life and it has affected me greatly when it comes to making friends, meeting women, and having any relationship in general. I'm trying to improve myself, but it is very difficult. I'm so sick and tired of being alone.
@martintasker8530 This doesn't help me and you're clearly victim blaming. You don't know what I've been through. I can definitely blame my father for this shit he put me through. Calling me a broken victim is a shitty thing to say. You also don't know what women want, as they aren't a monolith.
Whatever. Have a nice life.
"Work on yourself" Ah yes, the ultimate, "I really have no clue, fuck off" answer all these snake oil salesmen love.
if you think that making yourself a more interesting and self reliant person doesn’t inherently make yourself more attractive, then you just don’t understand
@@datboi945 The point is rather "self improvement" is rather subjective cuz if you are "self improving" what does this mean ? It could mean " i go to the gym 4 hours everyday and i don't play video games anymore cuz video games are for losers". It could mean " i meditate and read books everyday and i go to church getting right with god and try to eat healthy" it could mean "im going out more to bars and getting shit faced drunk every night and starting to use drugs to become more socially liked by people who get drunk and do drugs cuz most people do drugs and drink and listen to -insert popular music people like-". see the term "self improvement is subjective, you could self improve by trying to become more into what everyone else likes you could spiritually self improve you could go exclusively physical and go to the gym. If youre a normal person you are always self improving you are always doing all three of these things or two of them at least the point is even if you self improve and YOU specifically think you are more interesting doesn't mean everyone else does, someone who fits your vibe will only realize this but the this is not everyone is your vibe and if u are a person who really wants a girlfriend and you gotta wait 5 years to get a gf you just quit cuz its a waste when men in 1950 could get girlfriend in a month at least then nah women aren't worth it ntm the fact people in general are deceitful and they might just want to manipulate u all and all to be a man looking for a gf its hard and almost impossible for an average man let alone a sub 5 and idc and women dont neither they might care when one day misogyny is more common place then lets say it was 20 years ago cuz like men are getting lonelier by the day and at some point they are majority gonna be more "fuck women" types and it will happen its a mathematical certainty that if something doesnt change men by and large especially young men will be more lonely and if their is more lonely men then more men will start to resent women i said this years ago and ill say it again
already tried to no avail@@datboi945
@@datboi945Ah yeah, because every girl on the planet is naturally required to throw themselves at you just because you consider yourself to have improved. I'm sure people really care about your little self-esteem reinforcement 😂😂😂
@@datboi945I'm sorry did we read the same sentence......cause you just pulled that out your butt
I feel like part of the problem is people see the advice as being "work on yourself and you will get a girlfriend" rather than "women want to date men who are healthy, confident, happy and secure, so you have to ensure you're those things before you approach dating". Because working on yourself should be done first and foremost for yourself, and not as a means to an end. It feels like people who only see value in working on themselves in terms of how it will improve their dating prospects must have pretty low self-esteem, which is ironically an area that they would also have to work on.
True but I wokmd challenge that with the fact that alot of women don't do remotely any of those self improvement things and still get into relationships quite easy. Which shows an imbalance for sure in how we view men vs women in relationships, an imbalance I wish would become more balanced in a positive way.
@@bb-3653 Are you sure about that though? I can tell you as a single woman, having both single and paired up friends, that getting in a relationship while having baggage as a woman is also very tricky. And even if you manage to get into a relationship, the baggage doesn't magically go away. Making it work requires both parties to be somewhat functional... or you can become a co-dependent and toxic couple, i guess that's also an option.
I say this without any negativity, but maybe you're only seeing women's struggles from afar. It's difficult to see people making efforts, and there is also a "The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence" effect.
It's what I chalk up to as "winning more": when your life is so good that romance falls into your circle without you aiming for it. That others fell into this earlier and easier, thus giving out short sighted romantic advice, dilutes the actual challenge in having a maintained life.
@@bb-3653 But they aren't getting into good relationships, because it's impossible to get into a good relationship if you aren't a good person to get into a relationship with.
This is the difference between wanting a relationship to prove something, or wanting the fantasy of a relationship, or just wanting to not be alone, and wanting to find someone you genuinely connect with, knowing that you're both human beings with imperfections but trying to be the best versions of yourself.
@@meko98743 yes but Dr k even argues that you shouldn't wait to be the best version of yourself in pther videos which i agree with, although it can help of course.
on the other hand it can be a toxic thing to chase that standard for yourself, as most people won't be the best version of themselves, if anything the best version of yourself will always change, if we mean to have a real sense of self worth and confidence that prevents you from being awkward and making you a better person then sure thing. But alot of people get into relationships without being that peak version of themselves and build up or improve pnce they enter it . Obvs there are issues that can prevent you from entering any relationship, if your too clingy, Insecure, etc etc. Then sure but I think the level of "best version" we think we should Try to reach is honestly unreasonable, before someone then sais "aah yes now I'm ready" alot of people cant really gauge that because even when they have those desirable traits...guess what they can still struggle.
Essepcially for men it's like the standard of self confidence isn't really for the man's sake, but moreso for the women to oggle at in her partner whilst not havjng anywhere near the same standards for herself (not saying its womans fault) . So it's a "general sense of confidence" vs a fetishized version of that confidence that alot of men struggle to keep up with, for good reason. And even if both parties should improve, socially people still expect it that men are supposed to be miles greater than the women by comparison in all these aspects, which is just unreasonable in our more progressive age. It's down to socialisation obvs, but it still sucks and it's one of the reasons relationships for men are harder, because they are expected to match hard personal standards half the time. Some of the men who struggle to get into relationships alot of the time are fine as they are, but as Dr k mentioned, still struggle because its outside of their control. (By the way this isn't a hostile message towards you or anything.)
I am legitimately on the cusp of submitting to the constant mental anguish.
Same
You will never have a girlfriend, for the rest of your life. Where do you go from there? (after heavy drinking, excessive masturbation, and angry outbursts.) Is it possible to have a powerful and fun life without it? I have no clue.
@@AlexZeBeastThis isn’t really about a girlfriend, I could care less at this point. But the the state of my life is not correlated to my mental state. Even when my life continues to improve, my mental state continues to get worse over time. Nothing I do makes it slow down or turn around. It is not related to anything I actually do, I’m just fucked.
@@bunsenn5064perhaps you need professional help and medication. Or a complete and drastic change in your life. Trying the same thing over and over and getting the same results is not helping anyone.
Go against the odds
Honestly what I’ve learned through the years of dating is to accept and move on from rejection by accepting and be comfortable with being alone. If you can do that and love yourself enough to not need someone you will come off very confident. People like confidence and that’s genuine confidence not arrogance. And in terms of being rejected or someone cancelling the date or not texting you back, the way I see it is why would you want to be with a person that doesn’t want to be with you? Does getting rejected suck, yea but in the end I want someone who likes me just as much as I like them and nothing less.
but then the problem is you dont need anyone lmfao. you dont see how this is a problem?
@@jsmith434w hahaha I see what you mean but just because you’re comfortable being alone doesn’t mean your goals suddenly change. It’s hard to love someone else when you don’t love yourself and people can see that.
When are you all gonna learn that women are nothing but wh 00 res who use you and only like you for what you have or what you look like? Every single one of them can get any guy they want and they know this. They only want tall good-looking guys with money. If that's not you, then you're screwed, and you're gonna be alone until you die, just like me.
@@jsmith434wHow is it a problem? needing anyone is a recipe for disappointment
@@clkgtr12 because the original goal was to be with someone
Stop trying to "find someone" and just try connecting with people. Any person. For any reason. Just make human connections. Make acquaintances. Strike up conversations with strangers. You can make these connections through online dating, but first you need to be able to appreciate and connect with people as they are, not who you want them to be.
This is how you build social skills, make friends, network etc... Iron out your weaknesses when the stakes are super low so that its much easier to be comfortable, competent and yourself with romantic interests. You'll be much more able to enjoy the process and find someone worth dating (as you said, when you see them as reality and not mentally going through fallout dialogue trees to get the SUCCESS prompt).
Yes! That's how I lived my life till I accidentally stumbled upon someone right and I highly recommend.
I don't really find any reason to connect with people, which I think is mainly a me thing. It's not that there aren't people to try to connect with, but I find no motivation to try and understand what they like or put out what I like for them to understand, or anything like that. Which is weird because I do have off and on thoughts about having someone that's even just there as another body in the room to feel like I'm with someone, yet I don't ever feel like translating those thoughts to action.
THIS
But why would I want to connect with people? I already have satisfying friendships and acquaintances. What I lack is a relationship. I don‘t have any reason to make friends with strangers beyond the ulterior motive of „finding someone“
Dr K. : relationship is like lootbox
me : So it's pay to win?
And you don't get anything or anything good 86% of the time.
@@badass6300 More like 99% of the time also all lott eventually ahs to be given away, its never your loot its just your time.
@@thesaddestdude3575 sounds like a charity
@@chuckyyes More like a lottery but what you win has to be given bag so it can get raffled again
Yes
Honestly, I just gave up. Im 5'6 and not attractive at all so i know women wont want to be with me. Acceptance makes it WAYYY easier
I remember liking the idea of an attractive girlfriend for sex, but not knowing what else to do with her, because I already had female friends, and platonic was the only type of friendly girl I understood.
@m2pozad Look for someone you feel you could be friends with, instead of 'merely' finding her hot. The best recipe for a solid relationship is if you have things in common in terms of personality and interests, not just finding each other attractive, because most of your time together you don't spend between the sheets.
You will learn after your first relationship with a good looking toxic girl that looks are the least important thing.
@@AEsdadsvaL25230 Fact
Wym what else would you possible do? Theres something else?
@@ykonratevRomance and sex
“You can get clinical improvements without clinical interventions” is such an excellent quote. I think this could be applied to many things in society outside the world of therapy.
Who are these people that are not able to find a girlfriend in a country where male female interaction is normal 😂.
@@debanikgoswami4834 only in collage, male wall at 25
@@debanikgoswami4834 there are few of them in such countries. However, most developed countries aren't in that category.
@@voskresenie- Seriously dating and romance is so much easier in western countries. Here in my country (India) there are schools that doesn't allow talking to girls due to which many guys growing up are very shy infront of girls . Society frowns upon talking to girls and many keep their relationship secret . I lost an opportunity with a girl as she was too worried to be seen with me😑 . Girls here are judged badly if they induldges in dating .
@@debanikgoswami4834 you're talking based on guesswork with extremely limited understanding of the circumstances, not reality. As of 2019, in India, only 26% of men aged 15-29 were single, whereas in the US, 63% of men aged 18-29 were single. If you're single in India and struggling to find a partner, you'd have no hope in the US.
What i don't like about "working on yourself" is that its so unspecific. What is the goal here? What skills do i need to develop? Where should i put my focus?
I feel like its easy to get trapped in "working on yourself" in the wrong areas.
That's what you alone have to think over and come up with. Asks your friends and family about yourself
Write down your goals in these areas and the steps you think would help you achieve them. Physical (what do you want your body to look like and be capable of), Financial (what number or assets will make you stop caring about collecting money), Career (do you want to be self employed, do you want to climb the ladder in a buisness), Knowledge (what skills or subjects do you want to be an authority in), Relationships (do you want to spend more time with family, form stronger freindships), Contribution (what cause is important to you and how would you like to contribute to that cause, this could be as simple as donating blood every few months), and Bucket List (things to do before you croak).
You also want to identify what your values are. Usually, the actions you can't stand like lying or litering or being told what to do will be how you figure that out.
You dont have to complete these to be worthy of a relationship or anything. You just have to have identified the steps and start working towards them and it will make you feel a lot better.
@@maxgucciardi4507 Yeah, I'm not sure if this exact thing here works ofc, since it would take me years to 'test' it, but I like this outline. I think it's more realistic and specific. I go back between wanting a girlfriend and not wanting one, and also wanting maybe a family and not wanting one, but my career goals, physical goals, friendship goals, and bucket list are pretty clear to me.
I realized I actually self-sabotaged all of my budding romantic relationships. When I went on dates with people, I would be hyperaware of all of the potential flaws and get tense and pushed the person away. There are a couple of cases when I found wonderful people by accident and fell in love with them naturally, but in both cases I got rejected. I guess it really is based on luck, partially.
Oh. You don't know anything
@@themodfather9382 what do I not know? Genuinely curious
@@themodfather9382nah he's right. It's 33% luck, 33% showing up, 33% being a desirable partner. A desirable person who stays at home and has no human interaction won't get in a relaitonship. A shitty person who puts themselves out there can easily end up in a relationship theough sheer luck and just being in the right place at the right time.
I think the *core* acceptance I had to realize was there are ZERO guarantees. You don’t follow a relationship plan like a recipe and eventually you WILL find a relationship. Life doesn’t work that way.
Here’s the first “secret” I had to accept: You MAY die alone and never find someone. Despite all your effort. Period. Terrifying thought. But once I started to accept that, I could let go of the all-consuming fear of loneliness and start to direct all that energy into trying to build a life of contentedness (and maybe, if I’m lucky, HAPPINESS) that is completely *independent* of some other person.
Do I want a partner? 100%. Will I find one? I hope so. But life doesn’t guarantee me *anything* but an eventual death. It doesn’t guarantee you anything, either. So stop assuming it does. Keep working on yourself, keep growing, keep hoping, keep dating (or not), keep trying. But don’t let relationships-both the pursuit of OR the fear of never attaining-consume you.
38, gay dude (Conservative too, so fuck my already LOW odds, eh? 😂), autistic, struggle to make friends, battling depression and anxiety daily, still never been in a relationship. But I’m probably the most *at peace* and content now than I’ve ever been.
i think this is the truest and most based comment on this video.
Only thing that’s guaranteed in life is death. Such a freeing thing
Real, but I’ve already let it consume me. Idk how to get out
Completely agree. That's why it's important to find joy or that underlying happiness that is independent of having a significant other. Once you have that then you are golden either way and you can just treat dating as a fun experience you can have. I find that when you aren't putting so much pressure on yourself and treat dating as trying to have a good time generally it goes better in my experience. Granted everyone's experience can vary. Also doesn't help that alot of the cliche advice is correct but at the same time not super helpful. I mean they are pointing at a hard at explain concept that can't really be put into words. It's funny when you have the light bulb moment after you get the idea and realize what people were trying to tell you but couldn't understand just from what they said. It's like the saying just be confident or be yourself. I mean it seems like and easy concept but at the same time how the heck do you just be yourself? That is an incredibly vague thing to say and not something alot of people can understand how to do same with be confident. That said both are incredibly true pieces of advice.
Man that's inspiring. Thank you, I needed to hear that. I think that's already what I've been doing subconsciously, like... I'm 25 soon to be 26, and the last time I had a meaningful relationship was 2 and half years ago, and a meaningful one that actually lasted, well that goes back to 10 years ago. Safe to say I'm not really the most experienced with dating and relationships. And these last 4 years, I think I kinda got to a point somwhere between giving up and coming to terms with the fact that I might totally be single for the rest of my life.
I'm clearly not there by choice, so sometimes loneliness and even resentment comes back to bite me, but I think I got past the the point of dwelling on it and being desperate. I still try every now and then to get closer to a girl (am straight) and see where things go, but my expectations have dropped to 0 because I just know I'm in no position to be expecting anything.
So yeah, all this to say, it feels good knowing I'm not alone and that I'm doing the right thing.
I went out and got a girlfriend. It was brutal. I felt like I was both raising a child and also answering to a parent. It was the single most draining thing I've done in 2022 and I had Covid for a whole month!
Experienced similar, unlucky.
When the girl I really cared about hurt me, I got sick 7 times last year...
Being alone isn't as bad as most people make it out to be.
Thats what a relationship is with girls that got issues. But well.. there are women out there that doesnt have that many mental issues. I said that many.. because all of them will find issues somehow. Its amazing.
But good thing is you can now days go out and having casual sex so the whole need of a relationship is not there anymore. Thank god for that. All we need now is regulated prostitution and brothels so onlyfans girls can do more in real life and that we can be more open about what talking to the rich guy on instagram actually is.
I think this community needs to hear this
@@Feber2001 - good point. I'm happier and more productive as a single person.
Yeah, a healthy relationship can only happen with healthy people (thats what you get for catching COVID)
I constantly blabber about not finding relationships, only to realise I've not taken a single step towards finding one on my own.
I don't text anyone, just wait. I find dating apps cringe and I don't do shit. Yet I constantly crib about not finding anyone.
If you're in my situation - break down what the problem is.
Fuck, I just realized I am exactly like you
personally I think the best shot we have is attending meetups or going traveling
@@nils_perahia I hate taking my own photos. I am in my opinion okay looking, picked up weight and haven't clicked a photo of mine in months. Hence the disdain to dating apps.
@@friedsugar2701 I feel that too, I hate taking pictures of myself.
I've been able to take some that I am okay with. One thing that might help it asking people you know to take pictures of you when you spend time with them.
Just go out and talk to people. It's not necessarily easy, but it really is that simple. Make human connections just for the sake of it.
The fact that it's near impossible nowadays to actually get a relationship like this is insane, and it's part of the reason I've given up completely on finding either a bf or gf. That and the fact that the few relationships I've had were almost all abusive or toxic in some way or another, and in all honesty, only contributed to my mental health issues getting worse. I just don't need something that potentially destructive in my life, it just isn't worth it to me
Theoretically, that's really easy, but a hermit lifestyle makes dating close to impossible.
Online dating is a toxic hole where you will be judged for your appearance almost every single time, asking out random people on the streets or even in social media is a creep move, and you don't want rumors to spread, and the only normal option - having a company is not available for you if you live chronically online.
@@MinorLife10for me it's really hard to make a social life because I don't really enjoy being outside. But on the other hand I would enjoy going outside when I would have a girlfriend.. I would love to have a walk, go for picknick, watch movies etc with her together
But in order to have that I need to fix my social life, so there is a contradiction. How do I find fun in outside activities, how do I find friends and all that
But I also gave up on online dating and cold approaching, it's hopeless
@@katume7156Same. I hope one day we'll all find someone
Man's struggle while dating: work hard for over a decade, achieve a perfect body and career, and maybe just maybe by sheer chance you'll get a partner
Woman's struggle while dating: weeding out the hundreds of potential partners until you find the one you're willing to settle for
It's tiring, really
Yes and don't forget the immense emotional baggage women pile up while burning themselves through these potential partners or even past relationships which didn't work out. Meanwhile men feel completely lost, hopeless and inexistent to most women.
It truly is a massive lose-lose situation..
This if you want a model. If you want the average girl, you dont need to do that much
@@george1449 Feels like you have to do a lot even for an average girl. Seems like more and more they don't want the average guy.
why are you saying all women have it easy? do you think women are born with makeup on? jesus christ dude.
@@123ili generally one gender chooses. The other must become worth choosing.
One is significantly harder than the other. Im not saying women are without their own struggles. But pretending that we both have it equally bad is just flat out idiotic at best. Dishonest at worst
I love the college analogy because people always tell you "you need good grades and you will find a job".
But actually over here absolutely no one cares about your grades. They care about qualifications.
I have good grades and many stores won't even hire me to do sales work.
What do you think about startups? Sometimes the pay is even better than big corps
thats cause you are applying for low pay jobs dumfock
@@mango-strawberry toxic work environment
@@Cobalt985 when you're starting out that doesn't matter. Early stage startups are a great place to kickstart your career.
I'm 31 and the thought it is gonna take me 5 more years to find somebody kills any motivation to keep trying.
Keep it up, bro c:
Have you watched the video ?
@@santiagoaraiza8530 Yes.
How are you gonna give up when you haven‘t even tried.
@@mastermuc0 I've been trying my whole adult life, my dude.
I'm 28 and I've never been on a date. I've tried everything. At this point, I might as well give up.
29 and same. It's over.
I am a 22 year old guy(turning 23 in just 6 days) who never had a girlfriend before but I did have my first ever date 3 months ago. She is 19(turning 20 in Feb) and we went to the mall, ate in Mcdonalds and we hugged each other and I pinched her cheeks too but 2 weeks after the date she turned out of be toxic to me and blocked me on every social media. She basically just used me for free food and taking lots of pics to post on social media. I also have a massive crush on this girl who is also 22(turning 23 next month) in a class where I go for classes for preparation of exams to get into an MBA B School as I just graduated college about 5 months ago and about to study MBA next. I like her a lot but I am usually shy near her so she is the one who initiates conversations with me. Few weeks ago, she actually said I was looking cute that day and I also said she looked cute and I pinched her cheeks too and she blushed a bit. Sadly she has several male friends which makes me afraid that she might go for them.
Almost 2 months ago, I went out with this another girl who is 23 from the same class. We roamed around the city and had lunch in a big restaurant but I was shy to ask for a hug from her but finally I pinched her cheeks too and we might go out again next month but we are just friends. I also follow several girls on Instagram who are in the same institute where I go for this classes for exam preparations and they are all within 21-25 age range and some of them followed me back and I might message them too. I also have been chatting with this another girl who is 19 now(turning 20 in April) for several months on Instagram who used to be in the same school as me but didn't know each other those days and we get along well now and have many things in common and send each other virtual hugs and we might meet up soon too especially to experiment with food as we are both foodies.
It just kind of blows. This level of self improvement shouldn’t be necessary to find a girlfriend. Back then having a girlfriend was just the default factory setting. EVERYONE was paired up. Now you have to move mountains to even have a *chance* at landing one
Not true at all. Plenty of people in the current age are also just falling into relationships with little effort. Including people who aren't necessarily good-looking or have good personalities. I see it all the time. It's more a matter of being in the right place at the right time, having friends and a social circle or interests that involve other people, and self-confidence and social skills. You don't have to become aome sort of giga chad or monk in the mountains. You simply have to be in situations where you have the opportunity to interact with potential partners, and the social skills to do so.
@@Ardarail Given that around 63% of men in the US under the age of 30 are single, I don't think that's the case. I do agree with what you say, that basic social skills, being in the right place at the right time, and that placing yourself in those situations matters, but that just doesn't seem to be sufficient.
I doubt the majority of young men are social pariahs or shut-ins, so those probably aren't the reasons for the loneliness epidemic.
Dude, I feel like Sisipyhus. It's all a colossal waste of time, energy, money, and effort.
@Ardarail There literally was a, "Don't Hug Me, I'm Scared," episode where a butterfly told a story about a scrawny, ugly person that always dreamed of finding their true love and the story ended with them eating by a fire and crying. We are also to infer that the person died alone, which is supposed to show that true love and star crossed lovers are bullshit and harmful for someone finding purpose in their life and not just of the romantic variety.
It was the default setting because women had no other choice; women literally could not survive without a man. We couldn’t open a bank account without permission from a man, we couldn’t own a credit card before 50 years ago, we weren’t allowed to vote until 104 years ago, marital rape and domestic violence were common and normalized, we were forced to be mothers whether we liked it or not, we could not obtain a good education because our assigned place at birth was at home, we’re still dealing with medical professionals dismissing our needs because we’re just being “hysterical”, we still cannot get our tubes tied without permission from a man, our rights are actively being taken away from us by men (and misogynistic women), etc.
Men have been the main characters for thousands of years and thanks to feminism, women have many more opportunities that men have already had. Women are much better off today than what our mothers and grandmothers went through, but society is still far from perfect.
It’s important to be aware of women’s history because if men just had an ounce of empathy for a woman beyond her genitals and emotional support skills, they’d be MUCH more likely to have a romantic partner (assuming of course that they’re attracted to women); along with being able to communicate your feelings in a healthy manner, not being afraid to show emotions other than anger, calling out toxic behavior from other men, etc.
Relationship standards are changing for the better-women are no longer tolerating shitty behavior from men. If anyone thinks otherwise, then they don’t care about women.
This all will feel like an attack, but it’s so important to separate your soul from your gender. Men have to realize that their gender is at fault for nearly 100% of women’s suffering throughout history, but you yourself as an individual are not.
Regarding "getting out of your head", this is very much like constantly worrying about the score during a game. If you end up focusing on a score or timer instead of playing the game as best as you can, then you no longer playing as well as you can. Thinking about the score detracts from being in the present. It's okay to be aware of the score, but putting focus onto it doesn't help.
Perfecy analogy
this needs more likes as a good analogy of a healthy attitude for dating
The thing is that we usually don't like the game, we just try to play it cause is one of the only ways
"Focus on the now instead of the future." Good to know, when I'm 50 and still single I'll remember that while killing.
I believe the score is what kids these days are calling "body count” lmao.
The reality of it is....
Not everyone is going to find someone to spend their life with. Nothing is going to change that.
Acceptance relieves the pain and allows you to find meaning in the other aspects of your life.
You can't run with no legs, but maybe you can sing like an angel instead. Find your path, not someone elses.
Thank god here we have arranged marriage . Nowadays it has became a plan b for many us .
I'm not going to leave this world as an unloved old fart, no way. I'll leave while unloved but relatively young, and that will be my last middle finger.
People: "work on yourself"
Players, cheaters or whatever: * get ahead in life anyway and get girls *
The hypocrisy of the self help dribble
@@K.Marx48😂😂😂😂males experiencing pain I love to see it
@@RazorM97 Then give up. If you don't work on yourself because "it doesn't work" then you have no options left. The day, when someone magically stands at your frontdoor and asks you if you want to be happy, will never come. If you don't work for it yourself, your only option is to give up. That's reality
This video is perfect, yes just keep working on ourselves but its never ever ever enough. Just work on yourself while nobody gives a shit how hard you worked because they never saw you do anything. The bullshit is endless, people just love to throw misdirection at others because they are all inherently trolls. People suck,
The thumbnail and title right after telling me my tinder match won't date me is really doing wonders
It took me 7 years to find a girlfriend after last breakup.
a) But first 3 years I didn't want to have a girlfriend.
b) Then for 3 years I wanted, but was afraid to do anything in this direction (besides going to therapy).
c) Once I stated to actively do something about it, it took me 4 months to find.
But! Inbetween b) and c) one lucky even happened, I randomly met a girl which liked me. She didn't want relationships, but that was a huge boost for me. A very-very painful boost, btw.
If she really liked you, she would want relationships. She just lied to you to make you feel better. I guess it worked.
@@SwordWieldingDuck you don't like anyone, but a one single person you are in relationships with?
@@alanklm yeah, that how it was before divorce.
@@SwordWieldingDuck well, looks like what you say has nothing to do with me and you are the one who is lying to yourself.
People can like several people at once, it has nothing to do with relationships. You don't even need to speak with a person to like it. It's just a feeling, a judgment.
What did you actively do in c)
My problem with the whole working on yourself thing is that I understand if I did that it would increase my chances of finding a partner I’m happy with greatly, but during that process I can’t find a way to become content and happy and not feel lonely while I wait to reach my goals in terms of improving my looks and life for a partner. Like for example I can’t find a way to go to the gym when earlier that same day I was just almost in tears thinking about how alone I am and how bad I wish I had someone special.
you can also kind of incorporate getting better into your day, at least partially. take the bike to go shopping or to work instead of the car. try to get involved with others (not just for getting a gf but in general, try to be social) e.g. take some classes, go to dance lessons, participate in sports clubs, join the local DnD offline group, or the local BDSM meetup, whatever. this will already help with lonelyness and gives you something to do. helps with social skills too. and even if you don't meet your future wife there, you possibly get friends that in turn can help to get to know other people too. before internet that was the common thing to do if you didn'T just wanted to go to the next club and try to ask out strangers on the dancefloor or at the bar.
also: what do you expect from that special someone? what is the difference between that special someone and someone that you would consider a close friend? do you have close friends? Can your close friends perhaps provide you with things that a girlfriend would? if its about intimacy and sexuality probably not, but some basic hugs? talking about your problems, sharing your emotions?
I know how you feel. Im in the same boat. The negative thoughts and loneliness is literally a crushing pain. Hindering my grat work of improvement. Like you said, its hard to go to the gym after breaking down from loneliness.
For me I use my work to distract myself. My mind can't be depressed if its too busy focusing on lifting this heavy a** weight. Or making sure I don't accidentally crush myself under the bench press. Taking pride in a good day's work also helps. Also try and find some alternatives to socialize a bit more. Joke around with the boys, try chatting casually with some female friends without the intentions of dating, or joining a social hobby. These thinks help me cope for a time. They take the pain and loneliness away for a little bit but it does always come back. Atleast this way I have the strength to face it after a brief respite.
This is a battle of attrition at the end of the day. So we must take every advantage we can get to weather the storm. I have accepted that. Its gonna take a long time to find that "special someone" as you put it. Till then I will accept any alternative, any vice, any distraction. (As long as it doesn't become self destructive). Whatever takes the edge off for a while and helps me get through the day.
I agree with the title. There's nothing you can do to get a girlfriend. Only what you can do for yourself that can make it more likely to get girlfriend. However, in no circumstance, can it be that getting a girlfriend is the goal. Not everyone will want to be WITH you just as you don't want to be WITH anyone.
How come there are people in USA where there is no societal restriction on male female interaction having problem finding a girlfriend 😂. I feel like these guys don't live a normal life .
@@debanikgoswami4834 There's a lot of reasons why someone can struggle with that. A lot times I think many people have a specific idea of things that they try to hold to which ends up f-ing themselves up. Usually built by ideas gained from other people. Other times finding a girlfriend can be hard due to girls having high standards or something. Less about them and more about the woman involved.
Sometimes people have apparently tried the "just be yourself" thing, which many have false expectations of that and end up failing, then they seek other advice which often leads them nowhere, and if they're lucky, some "casual" sex (I put casual in quotations since sex is rarely, if ever, casual). Then at some point find out that there is actual truth in the saying "just be yourself", it's just incomplete.
It's bad advice since it leaves out the part that you need express yourself and communicate with the other. Everything takes time and patience, and that is the number 1 thing all must learn. Assuming they don't instinctively know it already.
Which is why I say there is nothing you can do to get a girlfriend. There is no getting, there's just inviting and putting yourself out there. Looking at it any other way misses the point and runs the risk of objectifying the woman.
Was told to work on myself, and concentrate on my own interests. I'm now 38 and in the same position I was 5 years ago.
Alone.
My own interests are solitary activites. People say not to do things with the specific intention of finding a relationship, so I don't go out, because that would be the only reason I would.
There are occasions where I do go out, but the places I do go tend to be predominantly male, and so I can't find anyone there. I'm not interested in having a bunch of friends, just the few I do have are good enough. And when I do go out, I never meet any single women.
I don't know how long this can go on for.
Exactly they are all taken
Start practicing things that attract women.. Yeah… I know is hard (believe me, having a high IQ f me up more than anything else). I started to do sports and my world changed… It’s not easy, it takes time but its possible.
Avoid them and reject them,its the minimun they deserve
@@alas6260 Especially if they're gold diggers.
@@alas6260 This is a stupid cope lol. Men don't even have to "avoid" and "reject" women in the first place. Women aren't the pursuers; they are the pursued. I can guarantee you that every woman you "avoid" didn't even notice that you exist lol.
I'm in the "i don't deserve a girlfriend" stage of my life, and i think i might be stuck there permanently
I think we all get stuck in a rut some point in our lives, can’t say I have the solution either so all I can say is don’t give up. You have the power to shape your world, custom made for you only, keep learning.
Yep.
Me too, I switch between I want one, to I don't wanna be alone, to if I get one they'll ruin me, if I marry they'll take everything I have. I think it's trust issues and I don't trust the laws of my country which are biased towards women.
Same. But being stuck in this stage only makes me miserable. So I'm making changes which will improve my life whether I eventually get a gf or not. Better to be attractive and alone than pitiable and alone. The worst part is knowing how f-cked up most women are.
@@Red_Devil_2011 I agree. This modern dating pool is reinforced by terrible social media that we over-consume and manufacture the problem in the worse, unnecessary way possible.
I think the analogy of college opened up a very good point that probably flew over peoples heads. We do not have a definitive timeline for most things, just bc you go to college and graduate on time or quickly does not mean you will automatically have a job waiting for you, and just bc you know how many years it’s supposed take doesn’t mean that’s actually how long it’s going to take. Most of life is about being consistent, having faith, and trusting the process.
I don’t want to speak for everyone that experiences this , but in my case and I’m sure many people in this situation can agree or have experienced some of what I experienced.
You might not be very consistent when it comes to dating and meeting new people, add that on top with lack of social skills for not meeting new people, and than when you do meet someone you really like you cling and try to move it too quickly and you both get uncomfortable making yall create distance between each other. The work on yourself is supposed to help in this situation but it’s more about going into yourself and letting things flow, doing the things you want to do and doing what you believe to be right, not what your parents or friends told you is right, what YOU believe to be right, life is pretty easy if not at very least much more bearable when you do things the way you believe they should be done. If your naturally stubborn and closed off, fall into it harder and reflect that way when you do decide to correct or change the behavior it comes from within and not from peer pressure
I swore myself off of dating as whatever it was I was doing wasn’t working anyways. I spent a long time contentedly alone, with the goal of understanding myself.
Peeling back all the layers, realizing that the ways I understood myself were built on egos and method of coping learned in youth and my upbringing. Separating myself from that voice in my head telling me what I need to be or that I’m not good enough. Learning the separation between me as a person with a soul, and my biological instincts. Don’t consume sigma male content guys. Really you shouldn’t consume any of that content. You should be at peace. You should feel proud of yourself if you’ve reason to be. And if not, seek that feeling out. Change your ways so that you may be proud. Hope this helps someone as it has helped me.
Not in a relationship sense, but I can agree that learning to socialize takes YEARS. I'm just getting to a point where a date isn't anxiety inducing, and I'm very proud of myself for talking to some girls I met out and about last weekend. Just being comfortable in yourself to talk to people and deal with rejection is a BIG hurdle to jump when you've been digging yourself into a hole in front of it your entire life. Give it time. And change because you want to feel better. Not because you need people to be a certain thing in your life.
Being single is the best thing for me. Relationships are too toxic.
@@debanikgoswami4834 you havent been on a loving relationship huh
Probably the most widespread and least talked about manifestation of mental illness in modern society is social anxiety. People often claim to have this-that-or-the-other because it makes them feel unique but they just look down on people with clear and apparent social anxiety as immature and possibly dangerous. A lot of those 'creepy' guys out there wouldn't know the first thing about manipulating women. A lot of those 'awkward' and 'annoying' girls out there are just trying everything they can to not feel lonely. It's absolutely insane how many people clearly exhibit signs and symptoms of severe social anxiety and nobody wants to help them. Helping them requires encouraging them to learn to socialize and more importantly, learn to do it comfortably.
People don't realize how much more crippling that can be than most other issues because social anxiety is insanely complex and inhibitory and it can breed loneliness and immediate self doubt. Loneliness and over doing it on the self criticism part can breed anything and everything under the sun that could be absolutely detrimental both internally and externally. It can make an amazingly person become horrible or make an optimistic person become broken and downtrodden, unable to see the light that's still left in the world.
That's awesome that you're taking the steps to feel comfortable and learn social skills and not backing down because it quite literally does take YEARS to do. That makes you an amazing person in my book any day and there are plenty of others who would always concur.
Keep going and don't ever think you are too lost or too far gone in any way shape or form.
Same'ish boat. Going out and just conquering the fear of talking to women has helped me a great deam.. still never got anywhere with women though 😂
@@Dinrog This post is the key though, make friends with girls, don't go for gf status off of the bat, I've been married for 13 years and the worst thing you can do is NOT become friends first.
True.
My brother met his wife first day of college, they were the only people who thought it might not be fun to drink yourself barely conscious your first night. They didn't share any classes, and they lived a good walking distance apart on campus. But they somehow met.
Almost 9 years later, they're married. As stupid as it sounds to hear people say "love comes unexpectedly", it held true for my brother, and I've never seen him happier than with her.
He's probably super attractive
ITs pure luck, he got lucky the girl wasent a 2022 feminist, if they break up your brother has 0% chance of fidning another good women like her
@Bruno Cardoso lol, lots of assumptions being made here 🤣 also, I'm a feminist and I hate drinking and partying. I also hate the idea of hooking up with strangers for myself. However, I don't have problems with men or women who do as long as it's self and consensual. Stay bitter and resentful. I'm sure that will help lol.
@@iateyursandwiches you just proved his point. You're a feminist, and it's very rare to find a woman that isn't. That's exactly what he was saying
@@r.a1301 You being an anti-feminist might actually turn “feminist” into a problem rather than simply a position.
i dont mean to crap on anyone's parade but there is also a percentage of people that just don't get to be in a relationship. im 39 and im independent, work from home that I own, make 40k a year which is nothing to brag about but i only work 3 hours day and weekends are free of my choice. so my main goal was to have free time to enjoy my hobbies and life and not have to worry about the demand of 6 figure income and working 8 hours 7 days a week. I've had a few flings but nothing serious. and well there just came a time in my life that I was like, this just will never work. relationships are tough to build and hard to keep for a long period of time. some people are good at it, and others not so much. this was kind of long but what im trying to say is, if you are one of the few like me that don't get it. you will just have to learn to enjoy your life and find happiness in solitude. good luck to all you good people who work hard but just don't get to cross the finish line. if you felt or got some recognition from this. Give this a like so we solitude people can see we are not 100% alone!
My last relationship seemed unbreakable and close to perfect for 2 years. Then suddenly she broke up with me. :,) It's 2 years later now and I'm still just as broken. I have yet to meet someone who is able to make me feel those kinds of emotions, and I'm terrified it's not something I'll ever find again. Love sucks.
It's interesting because I've been tackling a lot of self-growth, but haven't been "successful" in finding a partner. Your video slapped me with a cold reality: my social network is one of the key factors which limits my potential. Time to reflect and try to embrace new hobbies/interests which involve group environments. I really appreciate this video, and hope others can find the light at the end of the tunnel.
Make some female friends first and hangout with them .
The problem is most women aren't into hobbies at the same rate as men because they have an easier time being in relationships. They don't have to fill up their time with hobbies or self improve too much because they get emotional fulfillment and validation easier than men. Very few men get compliments, praise, or asked out. Women got equal rights, but choose not to exercise them at the detriment to men. Women need to step up and actually behave like equals otherwise it's just a downward spiral for men's mental health and that negatively affects everyone.
When are you all gonna learn that women are nothing but wh 00 res who use you and only like you for what you have or what you look like? Every single one of them can get any guy they want and they know this. They only want tall good-looking guys with money. If that's not you, then you're screwed, and you're gonna be alone until you die, just like me.
@@D3xterJettster My personal experience is that women are in general similarly interested in hobbies & free time activities as men are. Having a relationship does not mean you don't have time for hobbies or interests, that's what having kids do to you, not specifically having a relationship.
Men & women do however happen to center around different hobbies & interests i.e. male dominated vs female dominated hobbies & interests, along with some more neutral ones I suppose.
I took up dancing, specifically adult class ballet(take a big guess whether it's female dominated or not), and I was one out of two males between both newbie, intermediate & adult courses, perhaps a 1:40 ratio male/female.
Try doing some introspection: write down your hobbies, and write down whether you think they'r male/female dominated /neutral, then make a headcount of the people you know within these hobbies & their genders, and see if that ratio matches your initial idea of where that hobby exists in the 'gendersphere'.
This might get you a better idea of why you think women don't have hobbies as often as men.
I'm 36 and haven't even been on a date. Working on myself isn't working
Are you lean and muscular? Like 13-15% body fat, good big muscular chest, good lat development, big arms and legs and broad shoulders?
Do you earn at least 50% above the average salary?
Are you bald or balding?
Are you at least average height?
Can you carry a conversation with a person, in this case a woman?
@@badass6300 bro, he's saying he hasn't been on a single date. it shouldn't be like that for him, irregardless if he's a creature (as long as he's above a 3/10).
@@mkzzzzzzzzzz1 ok. Maybe he is expectation toward women are too high for what he can offer. So many things
Try your hardest to let go of hope and do other things until the point where you can't take it anymore, also isolate yourself from your peers, chances are they can't relate to you in anyway. If your finances allow it buy an rv and live on the road, run away from the past and from people.
Don't listen to the self improvement gurus and their fans, they can't relate to you neither, chances are, you made the efforts, you did the work, and it did not work, why keep going this way? You know waiting 1 or 5 years isn't going to work either.
Do what you think makes you happy alone.
How many women have you talked to in the last month? Meeting and creating a connection with people in real life often requires persistent interaction over the course of many weeks/months. (True for romantic AND platonic relationships) I met my first girlfriend at work where we saw each other every day for many weeks and got to know each other. Sometimes you can strike it off quickly in a bar/club, but I wouldn't count on it. You can also try dating apps like bumble/hinge, get a friend to take some good pictures.
I'm tired of working on myself.
24 yo man here. I had only one relationship in life, very short one. Lately I gave up on women complitely. We men naturally, subconsciously do most of stuff for women to be good father material. But Life is much simpler and less painful when you finally break free and dont give a fucc anymore. Try it
When you mention those core beliefs, I also immediately applied it to friendships... as I usually have a "oh no, they're abandoning me because they came dislike me based no what I said" response that happens when they're busy or haven't had the time to talk to you in a bit.
Childhood issues of rejection and losing friends because of autism being my case. It's always good to challenge those beliefs
Hi fellow autism enjoyer, I'm having the exact same issue. Hope you're having a great day.
I felt quite a bit like that when I was younger because some of my friends ditched me when I was twelve and I didn't understood why. So I had a core belief that people can suddenly get bored with me and stop liking me with no warnings.
@@cepahreinholt8710wow man you just made me realize..... my original "best friend" in late elementary and middle school, around the age of 12 or 13 abandoned me. We used to walk home from school everyday for years. Sleepovers multiple times a week gaming all night. Spent so much time together.
Then one day I got out of school and he was walking way far ahead of me. Not waiting. I tried to catch up but he just walked faster. One day I did catch up and we talked a bit but got outside his house and didn't let me come over and I never was in his house again.
In retrospect he started smoking weed with thebpopular kids and thought he was too cool for me, and didn't wanna be seen with me bevause I was a bit of a nerd and also not cool with drugs. Ironically bevause I have done hundreds of different ones at this point literally.
But I just realized that's kinda where it started. I always wondered why he stopped liking me. I didn't consciously think about this too much but in retrospect it was a really big memory that made me feel like people could seem to really like me and then just disappear seemingly out of nowhere.
The technicality is that you need to find a person pleasant, in order to be able for yourself to move forward and for them to move forward as well. You can't make friend with people who makes you feel uncomfortable, or people wouldnt want to be your friend if you make them feel uncomfortable (aka the company both sides provide to each other). It's the same with romantic relationship, as they are of the same scope.
Perfectly put
I disagree, you can end up in bad or onesided friendships and romantic relationship. I have experienced suffering in both.
@@Elfyja that's why you need to find a person pleasant to be with. Here's the thing, people change, all the time. So if you find yourself pleasant around a person, you will be surprised to see that you are willing to put up with their changed personality and perspective easier than a person you found annoying, or at least not pleasant to be around.
@@lethanglong6979 would you give people a second chance if they cheated on you or scammed you, because they changed?
or does changing only apply to you as in I and other's of not a past relationship?
@@Elfyja everybody tolerat other things. Some can forgive others not, Tiere is no rule. It is a personal disition.
"Work on yourself" is a generalization. To get more specific, you should learn new things. Take dancing lessons where you can meet new people. Try group yoga classes to meet people. Join group exercise classes to meet new people. And so on and so on. (A friend of mine, did a hair dressing course, just so he could be in a class full of women)
The problem is that if i don't try to get a girlfriend i won't socialize. I don't "go out" because i don't enjoy it. I climb but most of my buddies are men and meeting their female friends requieres that a i put myself in situations i rathor not be in i.e. Partys, Concerts etc. So if I don't focus on getting in a realtionship i don't meet or talk to women. And if I do i I burn myself out so quickly that i rather just give up again. Damned if do, damned if i dont.
You dont need to party to find a relationship. In fact, the relationships you get out of the party scene are probably less likely to be successful. You can find someone through common interests: gaming, rwasing, music, and any number of other hobbies. It's simply a matter of luck and putting yourself out there in some way.
I used to be very lonely and while I'm not completely out of that hole yet, I think I have a better perspective now. I realized that I could get A girlfriend if I wanted, but would I be happy? Probably not. I realized that if I want a gf while having reasonable standards, I can't just settle for anyone. This leads me to think that if I want to solve my problem of loneliness with a GOOD relationship, the best way to do that is actually just to let it happen naturally.
It's not about "just let it happen naturally bro, that's the best way to get a girl", it's more like if you try to force a relationship, it'll most likely not be a great one
I'm proud of you for beginning to break the mindset. You give me hope for future men. It's important to not let others' opinions of you affect your self-value, because people are temporary--you're stuck with yourself for the rest of your life. A good tip when you're in a stable state of mind is to be open to some criticism (from any gender) so that you can build a better version of yourself and keep your ego in check. Best of luck to you! ;)
@@marissahicks3529 Yee thank you for the nice words :D
“When you least expect it is when it will happen”
Well let me clarify what that really means from the perspective of someone who doesnt have a social circle and doesn’t go out much.
When you are around people just hanging out and not expecting a relationship it will happen.
My first thought is- why in Gods name would you note expect something to happen if you are actually out around people and hanging out with them?
When I “least expect it” I’m sitting in my room alone playing games or watching shows. That’s my life. Maybe a “normal” Americans life is different because they do things regularly that are extremely out of the ordinary for me. Things like going to bars or clubs or a kickback at someone’s house.
I think the point is once you start improving yourself and getting yourself out there without the constant expectance of a relationship, just enjoying yourself/life etc it will eventually happen. Because that mindset and confidence will attract women.
@@BleaK1211 no. You need also a lifestyle that involves meeting a lot of new people and encourages communication with them. Otherwise, there is simply no room for anything to happen.
Dating? In this society? You're far more likely to step on a cluster of landmines than to have any luck. After my last relationship fell apart in 2018, I've committed to staying in my lane. My time, bank account, and sanity are safer and in better shape.
I've lost so much hope of getting a gf or just a life full of passion and fun that at this point all I want is to be a hermit and play my video games. Find an easy, decent paying job that can be worked from home and go full hermit. I mean even if you have a bunch of people around you, you still die alone, as in you're the only one who's gonna experience death whenever it happens, so what's the difference? All I've ever enjoyed in life is playing video games so might as well just focus on what I love.
Yep full hermit is the only viable alternative i think to not die sad
Dr. K Indian accent just made my day
Ikr 😼
best part of the video lol, we need more!
I imagine he's heard those words a lot from his elders or something 😂
It's ridiculously on point, bet he got it from his family.
Also the thing with "work on yourself" is that I took it so seriously that I drastically changed my life to the point where I started to actually really like myself as a person to the point where I stopped caring about trying to find a partner because I felt complete as a person. Now I just feel open to the idea of having a partner, but I don't actively seek it and am very happy in life overall.
EDIT: lol, somehow I ended up in a gay relationship with another dude
One thing I like about this approach, which I've also embraced over the years, is that I can decide when I'm "available." Right now, I want to continue working on myself as a single man, and I'm in no hurry to get a girlfriend or even lose my virginity for that matter. If one day I run into "the one" and I still don't feel ready, there's always the option to take the relationship slowly. I feel like the best relationships are built and not a result of happenstance, and it's not worth looking for women just to pump and dump or have one-night stands like many of my peers are trying to do.
Chosen SCIM, could you tell us how it exactly looked like? Show a comparison between your life before this change and after? I would die to know what " I drastically changed my life to the point where I started to actually really like myself as a person" means in practice.
Big thanks in advance
@@gwiazdapolarna_ Well, from a purely visually standpoint, I went from a person who lived in a messy house with all the dishes pilling up and garbage bags and laundry needing to be done to a person who lives in a clean house and doesn't have all that stuff. I was too depressed to care about cleaning up after myself, but now I very much do care. I also weigh like 20 pounds less and dress nicely. The biggest visual change I think though is that I'm seen smiling a lot now as opposed to before where... well, I guess nobody even really saw me. I actually hang out with my friends now.
@@ChosenOne41 yea same here except i do want a girlfriend eventually, physically i feel great my grades are good i won my first fight i have a part time job and good friends but cant seem to get a girlfriend
This is the goal ❤ good for you
Work on yourself all you want. There will always be someone taller, funnier, better looking, bigger, more tattoos and money, and women know this. This is coming from a guy that never played video games - I body build, train kickboxing, Boulder, hike, work in television, have my own place and car and savings. I tried dating apps and in person and it’ll never happen. You can work on yourself as much as you can and I guarantee you it will not make a difference. I’ve slept with a lot of women and am the best version of myself. You are not missing out on anything. I want to disappear into my apartment and never be seen again
Exactly
As long as women know men are expendable, there is no hope at love ever forming
My goal is to make enough money to buy prostitutes
Finally, someone that's not just another peddler of platitudes.
So it kinda worked out? I'd love to have some sort of approval from women like you had.
Nothing about kind, empathetic, nurturing, being complex and not some “outdoors guy” stereotype.
Just saying why would I want someone that views the world that way.
I'm 32 and I'm sure that there is no one for me, and through recent experience I had with two girls (not girlfriends) the confidence in me is completely gone, even if a girl will talk to me, I won't be able to distinguish anymore if she likes me or is just nice with me
So instead of continuing to chase an impossible desire, I'll focus on me, my career and motorcycle, as this is all I have
Don't provide false hope, it hurts so much, for some, there is no hope!
Exactly! Fact of the matter is, relationships are not meant for everyone. The moment you've come to terms with that, you instantly feel a lot better.
Yes, I believe you. So the only thing that remains is to find a way to enjoy your life with the fact that you will never find someone. Who knows, might be liberating to know that you have nothing to lose.
Met someone online who seemed cool the other week and we both went to an event yesterday. They turned out to be super sweet and we're absolutely going to keep dating. Everything felt super natural and not at all awkward which is the first that's ever been
POG !
Good for u
Lucky bastard
That is a chunk of great News
Don't worry, eventually they'll cheat and leave you feeling devastated for 5 years. Get rid of them before that happens. Destroy them first.
Man I’m fucking tired of watching my friends fall into actually committed relationships when they have no interest in starting a family and I’m just sidelined
So? What are you doing about it?
@@cindyl3297 same thing i always have - keep myself open, be as confident/ outgoing as can, try to meet people and talk to them see if anything clicks.
i think a lot of people talk down to themselves like they don't deserve someone and they need to "level up" to improve others peoples perception of them in order to get others approval of them.
but i think that's just overthinking it, it has to do a lot with perception and not necessarily your own perception of you but others perception of you and you can't control that which makes it so scary, what if they don't like this or that, but you don't know what they are gonna think, it might be positive or negative and to that the reality is just that no one is gonna be liked by everyone.
so what you might think is dragging you down is actually a positive to someone else, maybe you think you talk too much but maybe they like a person that talks a lot, maybe you don't talk that much at all, maybe they like that about you, you just don't know.
but really i think the most important thing to dating in general is just getting closer to other people for others to actually get a chance to get to know you, if you can do that then you've got most of dating figured out, it's mostly about making an impression on people and let them decide for themselves if they want to be around you, it's pretty much the same for making friends.
not everyone is gonna like you, but there will be people who will and that's how you find people.
but maybe some of you don't actually have that problem, maybe it's conveying more of a sexual interest without going too hard in the paint about it, well that can be quite subjective some people like a slow approach and some like that super aggressive way of basically just propositioning them right off the bat, well i think it's just about making passes, so you know how you can banter with friends and tease them about something in a playful way, well making passes on someone kinda work similar to that, you just use a more sexual language when you do it to signal that there's an interest beyond just the platonic realm.
so for example if it's just a friend who you want to call over it's "get your raggedy ass over here" but if it's someone you try to get closer to you might say something like "get your cute butt over here" and if they have any attraction towards you at all they will pick up on that and actually wonder if you think they are actually cute or you're just toying with them to which they will poke and prod you returning this sentiment escalating the situation and from there you just go back and forth til something happen or you feel comfortable to go a bit further yourself, and some people might not say anything but they might actually just put themselves just physically closer to you because they want to be talked to they just don't have the courage to say much themselves.
but in ever other case where they move away from you and tries to distance themselves from you it means that they are decidedly not interested and if they don't do anything and just ignoring it they either didn't get the signal or they simply are trying to keep the status quo as it is because they like you but only as a friend.
so that's my general breakdown of dating, if you want to have more chances with people than you would normally, you can either try to be more attractive in whatever area you think you lack or you can try to be more relateable, but attractiveness is a double edged sword in that you might become less approachable as some might feel intimidated or just feel like you are less relateable or just come across as shallow, but your own expression of yourself is what's gonna impact people the most regardless, who you simply are as a person so it's up to you how much you feel like "improving" yourself. you can literally be an ugly deadbeat loser and still find someone.
personally i just believe in the whole if you go looking you will find something eventually, it might take some time and sometimes not.
A good analogy for therapy vs you’re coaching is, therapy is constantly putting out a fire, while the coaching is getting rid of whatever keeps causing the fires in the first place
I actually disagree with working on yourself with the aim to get a relationship, just work on yourself for yourself but your 2nd mission should also be to have a friends circle for you to go do stuff with because that's the key to find a partner. You make friends, you meet friends of your friends, go to their birthday to maybe even meet the family and those are the moments where you can actually meet someone and form a bond with someone.
I agree the more people you meet and become friends with the more your social circle grows you get invited out more and increases your chances of finding someone problem is getting over the fear of socialization for many young people today