I'm just going to say thank you. This is the problem I've been having and you answered it directly. I was about to give up on my dream of having a motion sim that I built. I was about to sell one of my cars and save some money to just buy one. Bro you did me a solid and don't even know it. I will be moving ahead with my ideas of a motion sim now. Thank you!! I just need to know how to make it work.
That's fantastic Mike! Glad to help. These things are very cool.. I have been running my 3DOF for over a year now with no issues.. same motors, Arduino, IBT's and all that.. It's so cool ! Man the first time it's moving, you'll never want to stop driving!! Thanks for taking the time to comment my friend! Dave
Thanks for the comment Brother! I hope these videos are helping somebody out. I am just trying to show stuff that I found difficult to understand when I was building my 3DOF rig.. Keep it on the black stuff! DMAX
I've been saving up and buying each piece that I can afford a little at a time. I'm down to looking for a bargain on the last two parts! The motors! I got a deal on a welder, scrap metal tubing, got all of the electronics, mcu, motor controllers, psu, all the things. I'm so ready to start this project. I just interviewed with AWS today and it went well. Fingers crossed I've been laid off since march. I had been researching sim chair builds for months and came across your 3DOF build. I was thinking how bad I wanted to build one but I don't have a budget for it so I started trying to develop a minimal part count/budget 2DOF build. I was so excited to see you were already on the ball. Thanks for putting the information out there!
Oh man BD! Hope you get that AWS gig.. Yeah.. 2DOF is awesome.. In this series, I am going for pretty much the least expensive way to do it and filling in the 'grey' areas.. I researched my 3DOF build for about 4 months before 'risking' any purchases.. because I never found a real good video on 'how to do it'.. so hope this helps you out my friend! DMAX
Thanks.. I guess it looks a bit wild but you hook them up one at a time.. I'm just following along with the motion sim herd! I appreciate the comment my friend! DMAX
Niiiice. Thanks for the glimpse into your troubleshooting process when something inevitably goes wrong. That’s a true scientist right there 👍 Looking forward to the next vid!!
Thanks for the comment Denis! Yeah.. pretty close.. if I wasn't remodeling a bathroom at the same time, I would probably have this baby already done! Dave
Thanks to ur good heart for sharing this wonderful build...u r an inspiration for me n others who is having same interest to do some experiments in sim builds
Thanks for the comment Akhri! I appreciate the kind words.. I just figured I would put out some stuff to fill in the 'grey' areas when I was building my first rig.. DMAX
Well the green is a representation of the position of the motor, that position is fed back to the Arduino to tell if the motor has reached it's 'goal' yet or not. I have not had a chance to really 'tune' everything on this new style rig yet.. soon though. Thanks for watching! DMAX
Geez, the way you are going with this D Max - why just settle on the Rig itself --- you could probably build your own race-car. Well, I just saw the 'sheared bolt section" of the video, so maybe NOT!!!, hahahaha ;P
Yeah those tiny little motors are going to have their work cut out for them! the solution was to just weld the whole thing together! Thanks for takin a look my friend! DMAX
great vid easy to follow! Ive some experience as I've already built my own direct drive wheel base and wheel with buttons ect... 1 thing to note in regard to cooling I believe you will find its always more efficient to pull the heat off rather than push cool air as it just keeps heat from escaping. So. fan should be turned over! if you research you will see what I'm saying. thank you I subscribed
pretty good idea my friend! Yah I can see that working ! I always put some thought into what others have experienced so maybe I'll set up a temp probe and see what happens once I finally retire.. just to see the effect and pass along the findings.. Great comment! New video coming out tonight! Dave
Thanks for sharing all your knowledge, it's been a interesting watch from your main build to this I am thinking about building one myself with the 3dfm like your first build. I am wondering what your thoughts on using a PCV built frame to accomplish what you built. I may document it with video as well if it shows promise. I think PVC will be easier for me to work with vs metal. And it would be different at I can't find a motion PVC build anywhere
Yeah PVC might seem easier. but it flexes too much. for a static rig it would be fine. I would just make it out of metal and bolt it together if i did not have a welder. You would be much more happier. PVC.. even sch 40 will flex all over the place. DMAX
Hope everything’s ok. I’ve been looking forward to the conclusion of this series. Even if it fails, there’s still something to learn. Hope to see the conclusion soon
Thanks Rob. I have taped the next video but I had to fly out of town so I didn't have time to post it before I left. I'll have it posted sometime on Saturday. Thanks for checking up on me!! DMAX
Great video again! And yeah - I also do not like those wires with Pins - they break much to easy after beding them like just 2 times. Cheers from BAVARiA, Yours ART FLY []-)
Thanks for the comment! Yeah I ended up soldering them on my 3DOF. I probably will do that too on this 2DOF demo.. But it was pretty easy to trace down the problem. It WAS working before.. and then.. broke wire.. sigh.. Hey when you posting some stuff what are you working on? Dave
@@ARTFLY Well, are you posting some more stuff on your rig soon? Last I saw was the wind sim.. IT would be very cool if you went over the 'settings' in game dash a bit slower.. I have all the parts already soldered and ready to go. Would be cool to see a video on the settings for this. Thanks ! Dave
Morning Dave, Love your channels! I startup my own build right after I saw yours. I got stuck at wiring Ibt-2 to Arduino. I followed the same schematic as you did, and my motors doesn't seem to turn on. I used the multimeter to check IBT-2 power in (its good) but tested the terminal for M+ & M- (no reading). I am stuck for about 3 days now, could you help? thanks
Good question my friend! I would start at the basics. Do the motors run by connecting them to battery? If so, be sure your + and - batt connections are correct of the IBT-2. The motor wires going to the IBT-2 can be swapped around but batt wires cannot. I dont want to go too much further until you know the motor turns with 12V and that the batt wires are connected to IBT.. Let me know! Thanks Dave
@@DMAX_DIY HI Dave, I did the test hooking my motor directly to the 12v power supply, it turns. And my wire connected to IBT is correct connection. Very frustrated. I really appreciate your help.
@@kelvinfoo976 Ok next make sure that you can identify the com port and you can make the blink program work on the arduino. If that works, the arduino is able to communicate. If yes, then be sure to change the comm port on the SMC config file to your com port and then open up the SMC3.ino file - before loading the ino file into your arduino change it to MODE 2 (for the IBT-2) Let me know. Dave
@@DMAX_DIY hi Dave, I have done all that, my Arduino and smc are communicating properly, com port are all good and code is loaded with mode2. my green line (feedback) is not in the center of the graph. I begin to think my pot is not compatible. I use a multi turn pot and i believe you used a 180 turn hall sensor pot. I really hope this is the problem. I just ordered some from digikey today. now I hae to wait for it to arrive.
@@kelvinfoo976 Probably the pot. The hall effect pots I have been using are rock solid when they are in the 'range'. I have used like eight of them so far on different projects www.digikey.co.uk/en/products/detail/tt-electronics-bi/6127V1A180L-5FS/2620661
Hi James.. I have a lot of info in the description part of the YT page.. Here is a link to setting it all up. Basically just download the code and put it in the Arduino as shown in Episode 1 of this series. Hope that helps you out my friend! DMAX You may have to change the first line of code to "MODE2" to run the IBT-2 controllers www.xsimulator.net/community/threads/smc3-arduino-3dof-motor-driver-and-windows-utilities.4957/
where to get the that giant thing that the seat connects to the frame that moves so the seat actually can move all directions what is that part and where do u get them/
Hey.. good question.. That's a U joint from a chevy truck.. I went to the 'junkyard' and talked to the guy and bought the entire thing for $20 bucks.. I though $20 was a bit much but whatever.. I cut off the rear u joint and used it on RIG #1 and then I cut off the front u joint (that usually connects to the transmission) and am using it on this compact sim build.. So $10 bucks each.. cant break em.. pretty cheap.
Dave, big fan here, I managed to get some of the same motors you used on your Main Rig, the crab pot motors. Please can you tell me the size of the shaft you used? Did you get it off Amazon? I was initially starting the project with wiper motors but now have these. Thank you for all your help and advice
Well you will be very happy you got the bigger motors.. I will have to check on the size.. I bought some bolts down at the hardware store and a TAP. I tapped the hole using my drill, then the bolt was secured on the other side with a nut. IMPORTANT thing here.. Be sure to drill a hole for a set screw through the motor shaft and through the bolt. Those motors are powerful and will shear off a little set screw.. I'll check on the size * out of town till thursday * To get an idea, check out my first page on my x-simulator.net post.. It shows the motor, tap and bolt www.xsimulator.net/community/threads/full-frame-2-dof-traction-loss-new-build.14740/
Great Question Adrian! It's an 8x8 electrical enclosure from the LOWES store. It's grey plastic. I just traced around the 120mm fan and cut out a hole in the top for it to fit with a jigsaw. I also drilled some 3/4 inch holes in the sides to let the hot air out.. Hope that Helps! Dave
Excellent video!!! I have a question since only the engine responds to me When aligning the green line to the blue one, it only moves and the green line goes down Could you help me? I have sent you a personal email
good question my friend. i would double check the wiring on the IBT and the arduino for continuity first. if i'm reading this correctly, your motor is mounted up and the potentiometer is in line with the motor shaft.. if you twist the end of the potentiometer the green line (pot) and the blue line (motor) separate? could be that the motor power wires need to be reversed. i have a video in this series that demonstrates that - take a look and let me know. Dave
Ok.. so You probably need to 'close' SMC3' because It's taking over the comm port.. Try that, the program and your setting are already loaded into Arduino memory.. I dont even start SMC3 anymore unless I need a bump in power or something.. Just start Simtools by it self.. try it.. let me know.. Dave
I'm just going to say thank you. This is the problem I've been having and you answered it directly. I was about to give up on my dream of having a motion sim that I built. I was about to sell one of my cars and save some money to just buy one. Bro you did me a solid and don't even know it. I will be moving ahead with my ideas of a motion sim now. Thank you!! I just need to know how to make it work.
That's fantastic Mike! Glad to help. These things are very cool.. I have been running my 3DOF for over a year now with no issues.. same motors, Arduino, IBT's and all that.. It's so cool ! Man the first time it's moving, you'll never want to stop driving!! Thanks for taking the time to comment my friend! Dave
Super excited seeing this come along
Thanks my friend! It's just about ready to test out! DMAX
Awesome video my Racing Bro. Big Like and congrats on 1k . Cheers.
Thanks for the comment Brother! I hope these videos are helping somebody out. I am just trying to show stuff that I found difficult to understand when I was building my 3DOF rig.. Keep it on the black stuff! DMAX
I've been saving up and buying each piece that I can afford a little at a time. I'm down to looking for a bargain on the last two parts! The motors! I got a deal on a welder, scrap metal tubing, got all of the electronics, mcu, motor controllers, psu, all the things. I'm so ready to start this project. I just interviewed with AWS today and it went well. Fingers crossed I've been laid off since march. I had been researching sim chair builds for months and came across your 3DOF build. I was thinking how bad I wanted to build one but I don't have a budget for it so I started trying to develop a minimal part count/budget 2DOF build. I was so excited to see you were already on the ball. Thanks for putting the information out there!
Oh man BD! Hope you get that AWS gig.. Yeah.. 2DOF is awesome.. In this series, I am going for pretty much the least expensive way to do it and filling in the 'grey' areas.. I researched my 3DOF build for about 4 months before 'risking' any purchases.. because I never found a real good video on 'how to do it'.. so hope this helps you out my friend! DMAX
Thanks Dave! How are you doing now? Did that butt mover move your butt? I'm looking to buy the motors now and get starting building this thing.
Dude! You are so talented with this stuff and I love it! Great video my friend!
Thanks my friend! I appreciate you taking a look! All's well that ends well.. Thanks for the nice comment! DMAX
Seeing all the cables you connect left and right really showcase how impressive this build is and also how good you are at this 😀
Thanks.. I guess it looks a bit wild but you hook them up one at a time.. I'm just following along with the motion sim herd! I appreciate the comment my friend! DMAX
Niiiice. Thanks for the glimpse into your troubleshooting process when something inevitably goes wrong. That’s a true scientist right there 👍 Looking forward to the next vid!!
Thanks for the comment B! Troubleshooting is my middle name.. Or at least "TROUBLE" is my middle name.. DMAX
Love the videos Dave (D Max). Thank You
Thanks for the comment my friend! I'm sure it's going to help somebody out there! DMAX
I'm loving the videos and the good work. thank you (d max).
Cool Julio! I appreciate the comment! DMAX
Big D so awesome Brother so close!!
Thanks for the comment Denis! Yeah.. pretty close.. if I wasn't remodeling a bathroom at the same time, I would probably have this baby already done! Dave
Ohhh this is different but... SO COOL!
Thanks for the comment my friend! I appreciate the nice words! DMAX
You're truly a craftsman.
Thanks for the comment! Maybe I am more stubborn than crafty.. haha.. Thanks for taking a look! DMAX
Thanks to ur good heart for sharing this wonderful build...u r an inspiration for me n others who is having same interest to do some experiments in sim builds
Thanks for the comment Akhri! I appreciate the kind words.. I just figured I would put out some stuff to fill in the 'grey' areas when I was building my first rig.. DMAX
You are so clever, I would;t have the faintest idea what I am doing
Thanks for the comment my friend! Yeah about a year ago, I didn't even know motion simulators were a thing.. now, I'm in deep! DMAX
Great video 👍
Thank you Adam! I appreciate the kind words! DMAX
Excellent
Thank you my friend! DMAX
Really awesome series my friend!! Looking forward seeing it in action! :D
Thanks my friend! So am I! Pretty close now just need to find a little bit of time to finish up when I'm back at the garage.. DMAX
You are really awesome at doing what you do :D
Thanks SammieBug.. It's my free time (what there is of it...) So thought I would put this info out there for fun.. DMAX
great video friend
Thanks my friend! Just cool being able to post info.. Hope it helps somebody! DMAX
So how much of a pain was it to get to that green line? Because I assume that that green line is your optimal area
Well the green is a representation of the position of the motor, that position is fed back to the Arduino to tell if the motor has reached it's 'goal' yet or not. I have not had a chance to really 'tune' everything on this new style rig yet.. soon though. Thanks for watching! DMAX
You are so good at this, I wish I was :(
Thanks for the comment my friend! I didn't even know there were motion simulators until the Lockdown.. now I do.. and they are pretty cool! DMAX
Great video Dave this will help so many people m8!
Thanks Bandit! I appreciate the comment and hope that it does.. Dave
Damn this is great man!
Thanks Mishka! I appreciate you checking it out and that's a fantastic comment! DMAX
Geez, the way you are going with this D Max - why just settle on the Rig itself --- you could probably build your own race-car.
Well, I just saw the 'sheared bolt section" of the video, so maybe NOT!!!, hahahaha ;P
Yeah those tiny little motors are going to have their work cut out for them! the solution was to just weld the whole thing together! Thanks for takin a look my friend! DMAX
SR - I already built a few race cars.. so this is WAY Cheaper!!! hahaha
great video my friend..enjoyed watching more to come..
Thanks my friend! I nice comment! More on the way hopefully soon! DMAX
great vid easy to follow! Ive some experience as I've already built my own direct drive wheel base and wheel with buttons ect... 1 thing to note in regard to cooling I believe you will find its always more efficient to pull the heat off rather than push cool air as it just keeps heat from escaping. So. fan should be turned over! if you research you will see what I'm saying. thank you I subscribed
pretty good idea my friend! Yah I can see that working ! I always put some thought into what others have experienced so maybe I'll set up a temp probe and see what happens once I finally retire.. just to see the effect and pass along the findings.. Great comment! New video coming out tonight! Dave
You're really amazing man. Thank you this video
Thanks for the comment Chris! Hope it helps somebody out ! DMAX
Thanks for sharing all your knowledge, it's been a interesting watch from your main build to this
I am thinking about building one myself with the 3dfm like your first build. I am wondering what your thoughts on using a PCV built frame to accomplish what you built. I may document it with video as well if it shows promise.
I think PVC will be easier for me to work with vs metal. And it would be different at I can't find a motion PVC build anywhere
Yeah PVC might seem easier. but it flexes too much. for a static rig it would be fine. I would just make it out of metal and bolt it together if i did not have a welder. You would be much more happier. PVC.. even sch 40 will flex all over the place. DMAX
Hope everything’s ok. I’ve been looking forward to the conclusion of this series. Even if it fails, there’s still something to learn. Hope to see the conclusion soon
Thanks Rob. I have taped the next video but I had to fly out of town so I didn't have time to post it before I left. I'll have it posted sometime on Saturday. Thanks for checking up on me!! DMAX
Great video again!
And yeah - I also do not like those wires with Pins - they break much to easy after beding them like just 2 times.
Cheers from BAVARiA,
Yours ART FLY []-)
Thanks for the comment! Yeah I ended up soldering them on my 3DOF. I probably will do that too on this 2DOF demo.. But it was pretty easy to trace down the problem. It WAS working before.. and then.. broke wire.. sigh.. Hey when you posting some stuff what are you working on? Dave
@@DMAX_DIY you're welcome 😊 could you paraphrase your question please? I do not understand its meaning. Later, ARTi
@@ARTFLY Well, are you posting some more stuff on your rig soon? Last I saw was the wind sim.. IT would be very cool if you went over the 'settings' in game dash a bit slower.. I have all the parts already soldered and ready to go. Would be cool to see a video on the settings for this. Thanks ! Dave
@@DMAX_DIY I will - try to 😃 soon come.
@@ARTFLY Cool my friend.. I have the 'bell on' So I should get notified!
Morning Dave, Love your channels! I startup my own build right after I saw yours. I got stuck at wiring Ibt-2 to Arduino. I followed the same schematic as you did, and my motors doesn't seem to turn on. I used the multimeter to check IBT-2 power in (its good) but tested the terminal for M+ & M- (no reading). I am stuck for about 3 days now, could you help? thanks
Good question my friend! I would start at the basics. Do the motors run by connecting them to battery? If so, be sure your + and - batt connections are correct of the IBT-2. The motor wires going to the IBT-2 can be swapped around but batt wires cannot. I dont want to go too much further until you know the motor turns with 12V and that the batt wires are connected to IBT.. Let me know! Thanks Dave
@@DMAX_DIY HI Dave, I did the test hooking my motor directly to the 12v power supply, it turns. And my wire connected to IBT is correct connection. Very frustrated. I really appreciate your help.
@@kelvinfoo976 Ok next make sure that you can identify the com port and you can make the blink program work on the arduino. If that works, the arduino is able to communicate. If yes, then be sure to change the comm port on the SMC config file to your com port and then open up the SMC3.ino file - before loading the ino file into your arduino change it to MODE 2 (for the IBT-2) Let me know. Dave
@@DMAX_DIY hi Dave, I have done all that, my Arduino and smc are communicating properly, com port are all good and code is loaded with mode2. my green line (feedback) is not in the center of the graph. I begin to think my pot is not compatible. I use a multi turn pot and i believe you used a 180 turn hall sensor pot. I really hope this is the problem. I just ordered some from digikey today. now I hae to wait for it to arrive.
@@kelvinfoo976 Probably the pot. The hall effect pots I have been using are rock solid when they are in the 'range'. I have used like eight of them so far on different projects www.digikey.co.uk/en/products/detail/tt-electronics-bi/6127V1A180L-5FS/2620661
Do you have to do any coding for the Arduino or does the software program cover that ?
Hi James.. I have a lot of info in the description part of the YT page.. Here is a link to setting it all up. Basically just download the code and put it in the Arduino as shown in Episode 1 of this series. Hope that helps you out my friend! DMAX You may have to change the first line of code to "MODE2" to run the IBT-2 controllers www.xsimulator.net/community/threads/smc3-arduino-3dof-motor-driver-and-windows-utilities.4957/
great video mate
Thanks my friend! I keep trying to make some good stuff.. just like you!!! DMAX
where to get the that giant thing that the seat connects to the frame that moves so the seat actually can move all directions what is that part and where do u get them/
Hey.. good question.. That's a U joint from a chevy truck.. I went to the 'junkyard' and talked to the guy and bought the entire thing for $20 bucks.. I though $20 was a bit much but whatever.. I cut off the rear u joint and used it on RIG #1 and then I cut off the front u joint (that usually connects to the transmission) and am using it on this compact sim build.. So $10 bucks each.. cant break em.. pretty cheap.
With all those wires I want to dub thee sir doc Emmett Brown haha
Thanks for taking a look.. Yep a few wires, but they all do something! It's not too bad compared to some setups I've seen! Thanks my friend! DMAX
Dave, big fan here, I managed to get some of the same motors you used on your Main Rig, the crab pot motors. Please can you tell me the size of the shaft you used? Did you get it off Amazon? I was initially starting the project with wiper motors but now have these. Thank you for all your help and advice
Well you will be very happy you got the bigger motors.. I will have to check on the size.. I bought some bolts down at the hardware store and a TAP.
I tapped the hole using my drill, then the bolt was secured on the other side with a nut. IMPORTANT thing here.. Be sure to drill a hole for a set screw through the motor shaft and through the bolt. Those motors are powerful and will shear off a little set screw.. I'll check on the size * out of town till thursday *
To get an idea, check out my first page on my x-simulator.net post.. It shows the motor, tap and bolt www.xsimulator.net/community/threads/full-frame-2-dof-traction-loss-new-build.14740/
@@DMAX_DIY thank you always.
hello - where did you get the case from to house the arduino etc ?. thanks
Great Question Adrian! It's an 8x8 electrical enclosure from the LOWES store. It's grey plastic. I just traced around the 120mm fan and cut out a hole in the top for it to fit with a jigsaw. I also drilled some 3/4 inch holes in the sides to let the hot air out.. Hope that Helps! Dave
Great vids! ♥️♥️❤️🥰
Thanks.. More to come as time allows. DMAX
When is the next video m8?
Thanks for the question.. I'm almost done with my 'vacation' so probably Halloween! MUh ha ha! Dave
Why keep muting the audio?!? This was a great video.
nice!
Thanks for the comment my friend! DMAX
Excellent video!!!
I have a question since only the engine responds to me
When aligning the green line to the blue one, it only moves and the green line goes down
Could you help me? I have sent you a personal email
good question my friend. i would double check the wiring on the IBT and the arduino for continuity first. if i'm reading this correctly, your motor is mounted up and the potentiometer is in line with the motor shaft.. if you twist the end of the potentiometer the green line (pot) and the blue line (motor) separate? could be that the motor power wires need to be reversed. i have a video in this series that demonstrates that - take a look and let me know. Dave
I sent you a clarification to find the video is Turkish year Greetings
Thank you
Cool.. Thanks turcoyear.. Glad to have you along for the ride .. DMAX
Ok.. so You probably need to 'close' SMC3' because It's taking over the comm port.. Try that, the program and your setting are already loaded into Arduino memory.. I dont even start SMC3 anymore unless I need a bump in power or something.. Just start Simtools by it self.. try it.. let me know.. Dave