Is Bloodbath Even Worth It? (Paladins Wild Hoard Update)

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  • Опубликовано: 24 дек 2024

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  • @CanadianWizard99
    @CanadianWizard99 10 месяцев назад +57

    I feel like bloodbath is really great on Grover, especially on. Onslaught. He’s constantly popping off extra heals

    • @landxxx1
      @landxxx1 10 месяцев назад +3

      yes agreed he best at it but cant see any other champion beyond healers who can use bloodbah , maybe Raum because he can shoot many targets at once.

    • @DerfyRed
      @DerfyRed 10 месяцев назад +2

      It’s simply a healer and tank only item, but most tanks need other items way more and late game it’s useless.

    • @johnsurgery3835
      @johnsurgery3835 10 месяцев назад

      As someone who often plays Grover I agree but just like his other problem cauterize, often it feels better to just buy Kronos and nimble and what ever defensive item is needed
      And if there is an enemy skye then you throw your peace sign up and hope the skye does not DELETE your health

    • @RandomVids0987
      @RandomVids0987 10 месяцев назад

      Raum, Khan, any that gives healing.

    • @rexpowercolt8216
      @rexpowercolt8216 10 месяцев назад +1

      Corv?

  • @StiggyAzalea
    @StiggyAzalea 10 месяцев назад +20

    The problem with making it immune to caut is that late game the item is doing more healing than most healers even if you do nerf the healing to even 100|100. Every elim is 600 health for the team no matter what. It would probably be too complicated but you could make it so only the person who has the item is immune to caut and then nerf the healing by half. Or make the person who got the kill immune. Either way works and has different benefits

  • @ishshah8695
    @ishshah8695 10 месяцев назад +19

    To me reverting back to 'affected by caut' just kills the item, since you when you are killing an enemy 90% you are in a battle with them and they have procced caut on you. And since its 300 Credits base the most likely time you will have Lv3 is late into Round 2 if you rush the item, which by then Caut is most likely at least 70% just making the item less worthwhile to use.
    I would rather the item ignore Caut and revert to scaling of something like 160/320/480 or maybe even switch it to 6/12/18% of base health which would be a max of 1035 on Yag at 5750, 846 on Inara (2nd highest health tank) at 4700, and 360 for champions with health of 2000. And being strictly base health of that champion it cannot be increased with health cards or items. Also add the feature that it cannot stack as well for obvious reasons to stop overkill non-caut heals.

  • @maragazh9993
    @maragazh9993 10 месяцев назад +3

    Chronos increases your healing without the need for a kill. Chronos increases your healing output throughout the entire game. Chronos helps with not just healing, but also whatever your other abilities do, that being survivability or mobility or damage or CC. Chronos isn't directly hurt by Cauterize.
    The only use case I see for Bloodbath is early game before Cauterize builds up, like an early-game life rip play. But, why would you grab it over Chronos when Chronos does so much more unconditionally?
    I had this whole comment written out, but it turned rambly. This is a shortened version.

  • @NoxHelios
    @NoxHelios 10 месяцев назад +3

    Funnily enough i have found myself buying sentinel for the 450 shield even if enemy don't have slows or knockbacks, specially on flanks ( caspian, zhin, koga, buck..) And i still prefer it it may not be a 900 shield but it's so much better for late game since its unaffected by caut( anti-heal), don't buy it if enemy has more than one person with wrecker it will flop hard... Bloodbath is too expansive for an item that is useless mid to late game even said supports( jenos, grover, corvus, MP pip and so on) lower it's price and make so only half of the portion is effected by caut/anti heal, don't think a 450 uncaut heal with max tier will be broken but will make the item worthwhile

  • @ivanluke3057
    @ivanluke3057 10 месяцев назад +7

    I found bloodbath to be most effective with Grover, Jenos, and Corvus (especially if your pocket buys reju). They absolutely need to reduce the price tho. You can't really rush it early cuz most supps need chronos first while the 2nd item usually for defense or morale boost. Bloodbath is only really good at lv2 and 3 and by the time you reached that point, its already late game where antiheal makes it negligible.

    • @sebastianaltamirano4991
      @sebastianaltamirano4991 10 месяцев назад

      that where hoard becomes pretty good, it lets me rush chronos and bloodbath with jenos and deal huge healing (they still need to reduce the price tho)

    • @Jeremy-yh8lv
      @Jeremy-yh8lv 10 месяцев назад +1

      Trying going chronos and hoard at the beginning of the match. If your team isn’t imbicile’s you’ll be able to max your chronos and bloodbath pretty quickly

  • @rinothy
    @rinothy 10 месяцев назад +2

    btw maelstrom grohk gets so much value out of this, i’m unironically a damage grohk main and the change post update is crazy with this item! you should give it a go if you haven’t already

  • @ashzerodude
    @ashzerodude 10 месяцев назад +1

    I've always got kill to heal on my healers, but currently I always grab it when I play dredge, or nessa when I go mines with distance increased, or grohk, etc etc. Blood bath heals you and whoever helped assist so I ~feel~ like it's really useful when I'm getting so many assists.

  • @BrambleJam
    @BrambleJam 10 месяцев назад

    That is one of the only things I like more about ow2, having a new player join when another leaves

  • @Mrowemr.pp2
    @Mrowemr.pp2 10 месяцев назад

    I main lillith and I decided to try this a while back and its insane how no-one on my team dies with the ridiculous amount of healing I can output in combination with the burst heal I get from bloodbath

  • @craigboure7607
    @craigboure7607 5 месяцев назад +1

    Does that item add to your heal stats end of game?

  • @poltergeist1554
    @poltergeist1554 10 месяцев назад +1

    Isn't the guy with the purple knife like jenos by putting a mark on someone?

    • @AndrewChicken
      @AndrewChicken  10 месяцев назад +1

      Corvus is his name, and yes!

    • @poltergeist1554
      @poltergeist1554 10 месяцев назад +1

      Tbh I'm surprised I remembered that I'm new to the game and I'm watching your videos to help get my footing

  • @Callmelilchip
    @Callmelilchip 10 месяцев назад +14

    Bloodbath + Sentinel + Raum Subjenvinte equals = Heal infinity
    Pretty much makes it so all kills heal you as long if you collect one soul and heal your team
    Only time I use Bloodbath

    • @acid7904
      @acid7904 10 месяцев назад +2

      no yeah, i had one raum who had it and i was getting insane heals from him

  • @SinnerBeta
    @SinnerBeta 10 месяцев назад

    I used the old version on Grover and Raum with global soul shard team healing, need to test this one one but I'm not sure it will be still as good on Raum now. 200+ hp true heal because someone killed someone somewhere on the map was great during a fight.

  • @awhitney3063
    @awhitney3063 10 месяцев назад +1

    I keep trying Bloodbath but it never seems to actually heal me in game. I'm not sure if it's just not enough healing to make a difference in any exchange, or if it's genuinely not working, but either way it seems like a real waste of credits. Conceptually I love the idea, but actual in game usage seems like I'm just throwing my money down a well lol.

    • @NoxHelios
      @NoxHelios 10 месяцев назад

      It's working it's just trash

  • @What-Hapen
    @What-Hapen 10 месяцев назад +1

    What if you tried bloodbath on subservience Raum?

  • @stan_carolinepolacheck
    @stan_carolinepolacheck 10 месяцев назад +1

    this item is good for almost every healer but there are some who don't benefit much form it which are basically the burst heals or the heals that don't last for long
    Pip, ying, seris and corvus, I think corvus' mark doesn't guarantee assists like jenos' mark correct me if I'm wrong tho (and I know during ying's whole ult it's good but if it's only good on an 8s ult span then it's pretty much not better than morale or chronos)
    and then the best ones to benefit from this are:
    Jenos, grover and lilith (lilith bc swarm and hex is constant healing, specially hex lasting for a long duration and she also benefits from this bc she regens her own health too)
    (Edit): Maybe buying this on seris isn't that bad.

    • @nml5317
      @nml5317 10 месяцев назад

      Ying's clones distributes heal on auto so it works on her too, and pretty easy

    • @stan_carolinepolacheck
      @stan_carolinepolacheck 10 месяцев назад

      @@nml5317 well the thing is they only heal for less than a second and you need to constantlu be healed, ying's healing is bursts except her ult so unless she shorts the enemy she wont get the effect

    • @nml5317
      @nml5317 10 месяцев назад

      @@stan_carolinepolacheck I get the heal from bloodbath enough while on LE and with the other two dmg talents even more frequently because I am healing plus shooting.
      Maybe you couldn't heal at the right timing

    • @stan_carolinepolacheck
      @stan_carolinepolacheck 10 месяцев назад

      @@nml5317 im talking about healing the allies, not yourself

    • @nml5317
      @nml5317 10 месяцев назад

      @@stan_carolinepolacheck pfft when I got heal while not killing means a teammate did it, so whenever I got bloodbathed on heal a teammate got it too
      Is it so hard to understand?
      I wonder how many assists you get in a match to not hv bloodbath works on ying?????

  • @tripleadog5868
    @tripleadog5868 10 месяцев назад

    tried it on raum and it was great, need to try it on corvas poketing a hypercarry for the super heals

  • @jacksonmallia-walker8687
    @jacksonmallia-walker8687 10 месяцев назад +2

    Wouldn't it be great on grover so that for every kill your team gets it's a giant bump in heals?

  • @zoekid6143
    @zoekid6143 10 месяцев назад

    i think it’s fine i had two matches where no one picked a healer but we all bought bloodbath by no means a substitute but it worked (always pick a healer)

  • @terzaputra3203
    @terzaputra3203 10 месяцев назад +1

    Bloodbath isn't bad at all. The problem was just how good other items in comparison. Life rip are bonkers right now while haven and Veteran is kinda mandatory to buy.

  • @djwh1te0ut68
    @djwh1te0ut68 10 месяцев назад

    I've been getting Bloodbath as my 3rd item with rei and its been fine, I know in a video you said she is a low elim healer but I think that really depends on playstyle because I average 40ish elims per match with her

    • @man275
      @man275 10 месяцев назад

      Yea you can mark enemies constantly and you should be attack a lot because of the card that reduces heal cooldown

  • @christianfuller7828
    @christianfuller7828 10 месяцев назад

    Also I feel like you should see about playing with kamivs or frostfangs

  • @ranzu3138
    @ranzu3138 10 месяцев назад +3

    I honestly prefer when individual cards, items, talents, and abilities are simple. Complexity often comes from the interaction of many simimple things.
    My point: Revert Bloodbath to Kill to Heal. Also make Sentinel only give you shields and restore Resiience.

    • @ranzu3138
      @ranzu3138 10 месяцев назад

      Maybe make Kill to Heal unaffected by cauterize only on killing blows. Or just nerf the healing.

  • @marciboyyy
    @marciboyyy 10 месяцев назад +1

    Dose anyone know if healing has diminishing Returns on it?

    • @125conman
      @125conman 10 месяцев назад

      I dont believe so. I trust Andrewchicken would of said something about it

    • @marciboyyy
      @marciboyyy 10 месяцев назад

      Thx

  • @mounlike7877
    @mounlike7877 10 месяцев назад

    Does it also work by just having The Mark From Corvus ?

  • @Jazzmofo
    @Jazzmofo 10 месяцев назад

    how havent you made a video on hoard yet?

  • @gronkmane
    @gronkmane 10 месяцев назад

    Would this be a must buy in sumos?

  • @ChaosTheStrange
    @ChaosTheStrange 10 месяцев назад +1

    4 supports with Bloodbath pocketing a single dps :eval:

    • @Steph1
      @Steph1 10 месяцев назад

      Cauterize plus low kill speed will ruin it. Probably better off to have 2 healers, 2 tanks and a flank to make the most of it

  • @Aeris_Asano
    @Aeris_Asano 4 месяца назад

    Does bloodbath count as healing? In the stats and for credits

  • @jobperey9951
    @jobperey9951 10 месяцев назад +1

    does the healing done by bloodbath count for total healing numbers?

    • @zoekid6143
      @zoekid6143 10 месяцев назад

      yeah

    • @ishshah8695
      @ishshah8695 10 месяцев назад +1

      Yep, had a Lian in a previous match that had Bloodbath and she had a number for healing done in the endscreen. Which, as Lian has no healing ability whatsoever, was definitely procced by Bloodbath.

  • @Pilques
    @Pilques 10 месяцев назад

    Get Bloodbath as a third of fourth item on: Grover, Jenos, Raum and Torvald (maybe?)

  • @johnreeves1257
    @johnreeves1257 10 месяцев назад

    Your teammate playing Torvald in that second match seemed to notice being stunned out of his ultimate. The same thing happened to me today. Isn't Torvald's ultimate supposed to be CC immune? Is this a bug?

  • @125conman
    @125conman 10 месяцев назад

    Looking forward to trying it as Grover! (not a fan of playing Jenos)

  • @oigres200
    @oigres200 10 месяцев назад

    What if the whole team gets bloodbath? Then any elimination will heal 2 players and everybody heals each other.
    Seems useful specially when there's no support in the team.

  • @Fancysnek
    @Fancysnek 10 месяцев назад

    Would blood bath be good on subservience raum?

  • @Azaism
    @Azaism 10 месяцев назад

    I'm curious to see if the item truly stacks or if we're just assuming it does. If everyone on the team has Bloodbath and all contribute to a kill, does the killer truly get 900x5 healing? In that situation, even with max caut, you would still get 450 healing. And actually, I wonder if Rejuvenate affects the Bloodbath healing you get from other players. Cause if it does, then you could get a minimum of 1530 healing.

  • @awoooga5857
    @awoooga5857 10 месяцев назад

    Since it's no longer true healing, It gets destroyed by cauterize late game, and it being tied with chronos for the most expensive item in the game doesn't help. Supports also tend to prioritize dmg reduction items, which are also expensive. Also the item is useless if your team is not getting kills.
    Imo, I think they should reduce the price.

  • @2s2bs
    @2s2bs 10 месяцев назад

    That second game was painful

  • @xzavierwaters4282
    @xzavierwaters4282 10 месяцев назад

    I thought I was the only one who ran bloodbath on subservience Raum. I get like 50,000 heal games.

  • @Kattz19
    @Kattz19 10 месяцев назад

    I'm new. When i put an orb on someone as jenos and they get a kill, do i heal them for 900 maxed out?

    • @TherealMauriceLemur
      @TherealMauriceLemur 10 месяцев назад

      No, you have to get the kill to heal your team. You get healed though if your teammates get the kill.

  • @eccentricdownfall321
    @eccentricdownfall321 10 месяцев назад

    does bloodbath stack if more than 1 player buys the item

  • @Richter8
    @Richter8 10 месяцев назад

    If my teammate buys Blood Bath and I get healed by it is that effected by Rejuvinate? Since its not technically self healing?

  • @diab-alo3108
    @diab-alo3108 10 месяцев назад

    Bloodbath is great on healers.
    Not on anything else besides possibly off tanks or some flanks. Even then there are better items.

  • @facupov
    @facupov 10 месяцев назад

    Its like they forgot that Kill to heal with Caut its useless, but also make it extra expensive lol....

  • @dearmarmarr
    @dearmarmarr 10 месяцев назад

    works great on lilith

  • @valorel1982
    @valorel1982 10 месяцев назад

    Bloodbath its realy good whit AOE champs,like Dreage, Drogoz, BK, BB, etc, etc, etc...., try it and youll see, and the stak it work very well

  • @flameHashira756
    @flameHashira756 10 месяцев назад

    Its kinda good on IO. I don't find myself needing a lot of items so Bloodbath is kinda makes the most sense unless your going a more dps focused route. I just rush hoard and bloodbath and 2 defensive items (armor plate, unbound, Sentinel specifically against ASH, veteran and nimble) Arcane warding is probably the worst item in the game i feel 🤣

  • @kevinamorimhansel2408
    @kevinamorimhansel2408 10 месяцев назад

    I find ok on io that doesn't need cronos.

  • @doges4715
    @doges4715 10 месяцев назад

    Idk i feel like bloodbath is mostly usefull on supports, giving them an extra way to heal their team. But that could just be me lol🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @douglasmaynor1420
    @douglasmaynor1420 10 месяцев назад

    It works great its just so expensive..

  • @SUPERBOSSYT
    @SUPERBOSSYT 10 месяцев назад

    i pick up bloodbath when i play a healer

  • @christianfuller7828
    @christianfuller7828 10 месяцев назад

    Bloodbath Lilith gotta be good.

  • @willtaylor1885
    @willtaylor1885 10 месяцев назад

    Ngl, casual is the new ranked mode. My team has zero team play just like this second Jenos match, and my generational losing streak continues. Imma start playing ranked just to have fun next season...

  • @serial71thriller
    @serial71thriller 10 месяцев назад

    Playstation is awful for crashes. I'm also getting horrific flickering every time the match starts.

  • @MultiSenhor
    @MultiSenhor 10 месяцев назад

    13:50 ANDREWCHICK *GAINED CREDITS* 10$?
    What?

  • @valentinafuffa535
    @valentinafuffa535 10 месяцев назад

    damn hoard credits notification is the most annoying thing i swear

  • @MrMsPaint
    @MrMsPaint 10 месяцев назад

    i think Grohk would be good with Bloodbath

  • @elxinanpwr
    @elxinanpwr 10 месяцев назад

    Bloodbath for what i get on gow it works it will be god tier on sumos fights xd

  • @yabbadabbindude
    @yabbadabbindude 10 месяцев назад

    Kill to heal was crap when it was affected by caut then they fixed it then they botched it again

  • @alexburke1720
    @alexburke1720 10 месяцев назад

    I came from warframe, im sunk!

  • @immortalkira770
    @immortalkira770 10 месяцев назад

    Really!? Guess I'm the only one who does use bloodbath😅

  • @koliber1212
    @koliber1212 10 месяцев назад

    yo

  • @RandomNPC_23
    @RandomNPC_23 10 месяцев назад

    Just reduce the price

  • @SteveDarby-uy1tq
    @SteveDarby-uy1tq 10 месяцев назад +1

    This update sucks!!! Basically a NERF Fest!!!!

    • @hey.3249
      @hey.3249 10 месяцев назад +2

      This game is all about who cry’s the most in the community gets what they want

    • @laxattack4620
      @laxattack4620 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@hey.3249Idk I've been crying about good balancing around movement and gunplay vs shields and healing, but that hasn't worked

  • @HEELEO
    @HEELEO 10 месяцев назад

    Bloodbath is good, if the one using it is good, the community however.......

  • @anatithe5358
    @anatithe5358 10 месяцев назад

    Bloodbath is a bad item, period.

  • @leandubro1885
    @leandubro1885 10 месяцев назад

    first