Exactly! Why even bother installing a boiling vessel in your tank if you don't have time to brew up some nice tea? Also a faster tank might spill the tea which is a crime in the UK.
@@mirekspodmonopolowego9016 what's wrong with the rest of the Black Night? It has one of the best hard-kill APS in game that can sometimes eat darts, it has good enough pen for its tier, the armor isn't great sure but most NATO tanks have the same weak spots and it's still just as good hull down as an m1a2 or leo. Optics aren't too bad either with good thermals for gunner and commander. Or did you mean the chally 2 in general? Because then yeah I can kinda understand it, especially the ones that don't have the L27 round or the good optics.
@@RedVRCC i spaded almost every single challenger (except for 2f) and from my experience the tank was fun until things like the 2a7 were added, meanwhile the brits got the 3td that is objectively worse than other 11.7 challies. My issue with this tank is that it doesnt really have any strenghts except for the aps. It gets consistently one shotted in the mantlet which is not ideal for a tank thats supposed to play defensively. Against enemies like the abrams or leo you dont have any advantages. They are faster, have better armor and better firepower. Most kills i've gotten were due to enemies incompetence rather than my skill Edit: gun handling is also almost the worst at that br making Urban combat painful (only the type 10 has worse gun handling)
Keep in mind that the black night has 2 rounds of auto firing APS (active protection system) on the each side of turret, and it appears its doing its job causing pre-detonations of all ATGMS
bro why are you mindlessly liking posts pointing out that all ATGMs were stopped by APS? It is not a cheek test because half of your weapons didn't even touch cheeks. What was the point of typing their pen?
Yessss, but if I wanted to do a test only on the cheeks, I would take Challenger 2/3 (without APS), I mean that APS and composite armor complement each other perfectly
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Why people always complain about Challenger 2 mobility?
I think it is good because Crew can make some tea before fighting
Exactly! Why even bother installing a boiling vessel in your tank if you don't have time to brew up some nice tea? Also a faster tank might spill the tea which is a crime in the UK.
Exactly and there is a chance that you will not make it to the battlefield on time and the crew and the tank will survive
for real now, mobility is not the problem, it's literally every other aspect of this tank that sucks balls
@@mirekspodmonopolowego9016 what's wrong with the rest of the Black Night? It has one of the best hard-kill APS in game that can sometimes eat darts, it has good enough pen for its tier, the armor isn't great sure but most NATO tanks have the same weak spots and it's still just as good hull down as an m1a2 or leo. Optics aren't too bad either with good thermals for gunner and commander. Or did you mean the chally 2 in general? Because then yeah I can kinda understand it, especially the ones that don't have the L27 round or the good optics.
@@RedVRCC i spaded almost every single challenger (except for 2f) and from my experience the tank was fun until things like the 2a7 were added, meanwhile the brits got the 3td that is objectively worse than other 11.7 challies. My issue with this tank is that it doesnt really have any strenghts except for the aps. It gets consistently one shotted in the mantlet which is not ideal for a tank thats supposed to play defensively. Against enemies like the abrams or leo you dont have any advantages. They are faster, have better armor and better firepower. Most kills i've gotten were due to enemies incompetence rather than my skill
Edit: gun handling is also almost the worst at that br making Urban combat painful (only the type 10 has worse gun handling)
Keep in mind that the black night has 2 rounds of auto firing APS (active protection system) on the each side of turret, and it appears its doing its job causing pre-detonations of all ATGMS
btw, the chinese AKD-10 missile on the Z-10 has 1400mm pen if you need one level above 1200 mm
There is also the South African ZT-6 from the rooivalk helicopter, that does have more than 1200mm of pen although being 1350mm of pen
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@@SkyMaXX5 its 1200 mm in game
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The Chally 2 has some of the thiccest cheeks of all top tier MBTs.
bro why are you mindlessly liking posts pointing out that all ATGMs were stopped by APS? It is not a cheek test because half of your weapons didn't even touch cheeks. What was the point of typing their pen?
Yessss, but if I wanted to do a test only on the cheeks, I would take Challenger 2/3 (without APS), I mean that APS and composite armor complement each other perfectly
you forget about losat, losat has like 1200mm apfsds round on max range i think
Nah, it has 775mm pen at its best range (1km) further than that and it loses pen due to energy loss
@@errornamenotfound2513 ah, my bad, it's been quite some time since I've even seen losat in use
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why didn't test if missile can pen if the APS were out bruh = =
What I was thinking when it’s a cheek test not an APS test
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