Oh my gosh, thank you so much for having this man on here. I've never heard of him until today and now I want every single one of his books. I love this!
50:27 reminded me of this quote i once heard, "we are waiting for the point when technology overwhelms our human strength but really there's a much earlier point that it overwhelms our human weakness."
Thanks for this interview I just ordered ‘The Fathers of the Church, 3rd Edition’ nice to meet the author 1:18:41 We all read scripture within a tradition…
I read Mike Aquilina's first book, The Fathers of the Church, for a class in high school and it remains one of the best resources on the Fathers I have ever come across.
I am almost convinced that Cleopas in Luke, 24 and the other disciple... Who got a personal, ultimate Bible study with Jesus himself is the key on how the early church understood the church, the Old Testament Bible, and then the New Testament letters. Some of this understanding became sacred scripture and some became sacred tradition!
48:10 That reminds me of Covid. I went to visit my mom. Drove down the niegborhood i grew up in. And i had never seen that many people outside takimg walks
Turned this on to have something to listen to as I dragged my sleepy butt across the more frustrating parts of my med school application. Accidentally got gripped by Mike. He is so many things I have dreamed about myself over the years (about breaking free from technology, learning to internally love reading, writing books that reach people with great narrative...) Unfortunately, I am not really any of those things and am still quite addicted to tech. All that said, I love the discussion; it turned out to be one of the best I can think of. Also his name is so fitting for a lover of the Latin fathers! Pax
Hammers are cheap and they smash things well. Worked great with my smartphone - and the Laptop is unhandy enough to be but away in a drawer from time to time.
This was such a great interview! I honestly wish personally he had gone over more how the Fathers formed their reading of scripture and also the influence of the Contemporary cosmology into Interpration. Nevertheless, great interview
I attended a mini retreat a few weeks ago, where Mike went over a lot of this. But this has filled it in a little bit. Even re-listening. Example, the guardian angels for friendship. Friendship. Hmm.
Christianity Today article on Rodney Stark, “According to his research, religious groups that make it easier to join and participate will-counterintuitively-see fewer people join and participate. Those who emphasize their difference and social deviance, on the other hand, will see numbers increase.” BTW, he finished his career at Baylor University and professed his faith in Christ.
i'm sorry the fact that he started talking abt phones and how they suck us in and notifications. THEN MY PHONE VIBRATED BC IT GOT A NOTIFICATION AND I INSTANTLY WENT TO ANSWER
Please make a clip version of his comments on how Christians upset the social order around minute :36 . Awesome!!!!! I was texting all my Christian friends these fun facts. So encouraging!
Two yrs of Religion Class at School (aged 14-16) in London, U.K from 1982 to 1984 consisted of looking at Luke's Gospel, looking into CND (Campaign for nuclear disarmament) and Marriage. I don't remember anything else. A Nun taught us. She must have been a fully paid up CND member, because that was her favourite subject ! Nuclear War was everyone's big fear back then. The Headmistress was Sr Myra, who is big into Women's ordination, and campaigns for it. John Henry Westen interviewed her on this. My Mother, born in 1940, knew the Catechism at 7. She had been sent from London to Dublin, to Family, as a Baby, as kids were being evacuated from London. She returned to her (sadly) widowed Mother in London at 7. The Nuns in her School in London stood her in front of the Class and commended her (The Irish Girl) to the Class for knowing her Catechism fully. Lol.
I've always really liked Aquilina. A really great popular scholar. On TV he always seems really nice, which he is, but he is unafraid of making clear a controversial question. A really decent writer
Wonderful interview. But see: how interesting that you guys identified (correctly, I recon) some of the bad actions that came out in Church after Council Vatican II, and towards the very last minutes you got so, so close to get the REAL objectives of CVII - but not close enough! Yeah, Mike is absolutely right: we are living under a martial law to some extent, which is expressed by uniformity: on liturgy, on customs, on the central role of the Roman Pontiff. And CVII reviews this uniformity enforced since Trent, which is now dated and feel "weird", as you pointed out. The Catholic Church is indeed a "local reality that is universal", it is missionary, it is no longer on a counter-reformation crusade, and it evolves both clerics and laity. You almost nailed one of the core purposes of Pope Francis' pontificate: fight clericalism! Matt had even said: "maybe the current Holy Father wishes to get less attention" - well, yeah! That's precisely the point. You guys sensed the the Catholic Church became less "Roman" (paradoxically not ceasing to be so) but in the last minute failed to grasp the very intention of CVII on this direction. It was great to see, but a bit frustrating also.
I am a lifelong Christian but a brand-new Catholic convert. Please, please, please do not underestimate the value of walking with the Church Fathers! The joke among Protestants is "don't read the Church Fathers unless you want to convert to Catholicism." lol
One of the most interesting books I ever read, to combat the false teachings of Jehovah Witnesses, whom were targeting my son, was written by a priest. Who would've ever guessed, that? Lol.
I'm Jonah, a conservative Anglican, but not the same Jonah the conservative Anglican that commented his questions in the chat. Thank you for the answers so. I'm not sold that the Papal Bull against us is appropriate though. The argument is that we "changed the mass" but when visiting my friend's Catholic church it was nearly verbatim to my current ACNA parish service minus a few insignificantly differences in wording. My heart hurts because my parish is catholic, you are my spiritual siblings, but we can't share the table. My experiences with Anglican mass are such that unlooked for (I was a baptist) Christ met me in a literal through the Sacrament. I can't say that was invalid.
Hi Jonah, I appreciate your take. I'm in the Ordinariate so I have great love for the ACNA's Christians. I think it is a little more complicated than how you put it, unfortunately. It's not that Anglicans made changes to the Mass; that's not the argument. The argument against the validity of Anglican Eucharist, depends upon the invalidity of Anglican holy orders. And the reason that Catholics do not accept the validity of Anglican holy orders, is that Catholics believe that in order to have valid holy orders, the person who ordained you has to have been a validly consecrated bishop, who is a validly ordained priest, who is (in turn) ordaining you validly. That brings us to a question of what that validity is, vis a vis holy orders. I am gonna end up writing a book if I keep going on, but suffice it to say, it's complicated. But, I don't think any of that is really your issue. From what you've written (and you may intellectually maintain something else, but from what you have written here) you're operating as though, either the ACNA has valid Masses, or Jesus Christ is incapable of working through the ACNA. That is a false dichotomy. Just as people really and truly encounter Jesus in Baptist congregations, and then outgrow that congregation to be conformed evermore to the will of God, into say, a high church Anglo-Catholic denomination, we maintain that people can outgrow Anglicanism in the same way. We do not say that Christians who come together to worship Our Lord in denominations not our own, will have zero encounter with Him.
PS All that said, I don't want to overstate the magisterial weight of Leo XIII's bull on Anglican holy orders, if that is indeed a stumbling block to your reunion with the global historical Church.
@@claymcdermott718 Thank you for your thoughtful response. I admit I did simplify things. My original understanding was actually the correction you gave but I read elsewhere the issue wasn't one of ordination (after all the reforming bishops were ordained bishops) but of "changes to the mass" perhaps I was misinformed. Also I do hold that view of Christ meeting Christians everywhere. Part of my becoming Anglican was a recognition and emphasis on that reality in Communion. So we are very close indeed.
@@claymcdermott718 re: PS: I believe this was meant as a clarifying comment but I'm a bit confused. Are you saying that I may be overstating the weight of the bull and it shouldn't be an obstacle? Also part of the trouble is that I see myself as having reunited with the global historic Church by being Anglican. Things like the dogmatizing of the immaculate conception, a medieval formulation which I'm open to, is a tough bar of entry for many Protestants who otherwise truly love and know Christ. I can't want to be able to share the table with them as well.
I recently heard Mike speaking about the early Church, and I couldn't get enough!
I have been gorging on his video's!
I love hearing Mike talk! Always interesting. Thanks guys
Matt, you’re such a good interviewer/conversationalist. It doesn’t matter who you have on, I always enjoy it.
This was a great episode! I love how enthusiastic and joyful Mike is!
Oh my gosh, thank you so much for having this man on here. I've never heard of him until today and now I want every single one of his books. I love this!
I would feel so isolated if people like you weren't online. I may quit technology and go outside, but no one else is there.
I have been a fan of Mike Aquilina for many years. As someone who is very interested in the Church Fathers, he is my to go guy.
This is one of the best, most interesting, most helpful interviews I've heard in a long time. Thanks!
50:27 reminded me of this quote i once heard, "we are waiting for the point when technology overwhelms our human strength but really there's a much earlier point that it overwhelms our human weakness."
I have 2! Now I must get 68 more!
Thanks for this interview I just ordered ‘The Fathers of the Church, 3rd Edition’ nice to meet the author 1:18:41 We all read scripture within a tradition…
This was a great interview. Although I’m a recent convert, Mike is close to my age and I could definitely relate! Thank you!
What an interesting guest! I loved this.
Very interesting guest. Thanks, Matt
I read Mike Aquilina's first book, The Fathers of the Church, for a class in high school and it remains one of the best resources on the Fathers I have ever come across.
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Mike Aquilina! Great man! "The Fathers of the Church" is an excellent book to give out as a gift to anyone interested in the faith.
Nice to wake up in the morning and have a new PWT episode. Looking forward to this one!
I have Mike Aquilina's first book, Fathers of the Church, and am a huge fan of Mike. Excellent interview.
I am almost convinced that Cleopas in Luke, 24 and the other disciple... Who got a personal, ultimate Bible study with Jesus himself is the key on how the early church understood the church, the Old Testament Bible, and then the New Testament letters. Some of this understanding became sacred scripture and some became sacred tradition!
48:10
That reminds me of Covid.
I went to visit my mom. Drove down the niegborhood i grew up in. And i had never seen that many people outside takimg walks
Turned this on to have something to listen to as I dragged my sleepy butt across the more frustrating parts of my med school application. Accidentally got gripped by Mike. He is so many things I have dreamed about myself over the years (about breaking free from technology, learning to internally love reading, writing books that reach people with great narrative...) Unfortunately, I am not really any of those things and am still quite addicted to tech. All that said, I love the discussion; it turned out to be one of the best I can think of. Also his name is so fitting for a lover of the Latin fathers! Pax
Hammers are cheap and they smash things well. Worked great with my smartphone - and the Laptop is unhandy enough to be but away in a drawer from time to time.
Matt!!! So nice to see your handsome face!
This was such a great interview! I honestly wish personally he had gone over more how the Fathers formed their reading of scripture and also the influence of the Contemporary cosmology into Interpration. Nevertheless, great interview
I attended a mini retreat a few weeks ago, where Mike went over a lot of this. But this has filled it in a little bit. Even re-listening. Example, the guardian angels for friendship. Friendship. Hmm.
Prosit Mike, I have Maltese heritage too! God bless you!
Christianity Today article on Rodney Stark, “According to his research, religious groups that make it easier to join and participate will-counterintuitively-see fewer people join and participate. Those who emphasize their difference and social deviance, on the other hand, will see numbers increase.” BTW, he finished his career at Baylor University and professed his faith in Christ.
i'm sorry the fact that he started talking abt phones and how they suck us in and notifications. THEN MY PHONE VIBRATED BC IT GOT A NOTIFICATION AND I INSTANTLY WENT TO ANSWER
The Anglican Ordinariate is fantastic :)
Looks like Matt defied the poll saying to keep his beard for the sake of what his wife preferred--good move. Smart man.
Please make a clip version of his comments on how Christians upset the social order around minute :36 . Awesome!!!!! I was texting all my Christian friends these fun facts. So encouraging!
I've got Introduction to the Church Father's by Mike. A page or few about the father's. Great way to know the father's.
Two yrs of Religion Class at School (aged 14-16) in London, U.K from 1982 to 1984 consisted of looking at Luke's Gospel, looking into CND (Campaign for nuclear disarmament) and Marriage. I don't remember anything else. A Nun taught us. She must have been a fully paid up CND member, because that was her favourite subject ! Nuclear War was everyone's big fear back then. The Headmistress was Sr Myra, who is big into Women's ordination, and campaigns for it. John Henry Westen interviewed her on this. My Mother, born in 1940, knew the Catechism at 7. She had been sent from London to Dublin, to Family, as a Baby, as kids were being evacuated from London. She returned to her (sadly) widowed Mother in London at 7. The Nuns in her School in London stood her in front of the Class and commended her (The Irish Girl) to the Class for knowing her Catechism fully. Lol.
I've always really liked Aquilina. A really great popular scholar. On TV he always seems really nice, which he is, but he is unafraid of making clear a controversial question. A really decent writer
wonderful, learned quite a bit
Made the comment to my wife while watching this "Hmmmm... Can't remember the last time I went on Facebook or social media.
1:15:35 also known as the “flirt-to-convert” technique
Wonderful interview. But see: how interesting that you guys identified (correctly, I recon) some of the bad actions that came out in Church after Council Vatican II, and towards the very last minutes you got so, so close to get the REAL objectives of CVII - but not close enough!
Yeah, Mike is absolutely right: we are living under a martial law to some extent, which is expressed by uniformity: on liturgy, on customs, on the central role of the Roman Pontiff. And CVII reviews this uniformity enforced since Trent, which is now dated and feel "weird", as you pointed out. The Catholic Church is indeed a "local reality that is universal", it is missionary, it is no longer on a counter-reformation crusade, and it evolves both clerics and laity. You almost nailed one of the core purposes of Pope Francis' pontificate: fight clericalism! Matt had even said: "maybe the current Holy Father wishes to get less attention" - well, yeah! That's precisely the point.
You guys sensed the the Catholic Church became less "Roman" (paradoxically not ceasing to be so) but in the last minute failed to grasp the very intention of CVII on this direction. It was great to see, but a bit frustrating also.
love it
I am a lifelong Christian but a brand-new Catholic convert. Please, please, please do not underestimate the value of walking with the Church Fathers! The joke among Protestants is "don't read the Church Fathers unless you want to convert to Catholicism." lol
RIP the beard 🙏 may your memory be eternal 😢
Jeremy's razors for sure.
One of the most interesting books I ever read, to combat the false teachings of Jehovah Witnesses, whom were targeting my son, was written by a priest. Who would've ever guessed, that? Lol.
I think I read that same book about the discovery of Troy. And I wasn't a boy LOL
Wait. Omigosh... Did we go to Penn State at the same time?!
I thought people in Opus dei members kept it a secret
I'm Jonah, a conservative Anglican, but not the same Jonah the conservative Anglican that commented his questions in the chat. Thank you for the answers so. I'm not sold that the Papal Bull against us is appropriate though. The argument is that we "changed the mass" but when visiting my friend's Catholic church it was nearly verbatim to my current ACNA parish service minus a few insignificantly differences in wording. My heart hurts because my parish is catholic, you are my spiritual siblings, but we can't share the table. My experiences with Anglican mass are such that unlooked for (I was a baptist) Christ met me in a literal through the Sacrament. I can't say that was invalid.
Hi Jonah, I appreciate your take. I'm in the Ordinariate so I have great love for the ACNA's Christians. I think it is a little more complicated than how you put it, unfortunately. It's not that Anglicans made changes to the Mass; that's not the argument. The argument against the validity of Anglican Eucharist, depends upon the invalidity of Anglican holy orders. And the reason that Catholics do not accept the validity of Anglican holy orders, is that Catholics believe that in order to have valid holy orders, the person who ordained you has to have been a validly consecrated bishop, who is a validly ordained priest, who is (in turn) ordaining you validly.
That brings us to a question of what that validity is, vis a vis holy orders. I am gonna end up writing a book if I keep going on, but suffice it to say, it's complicated.
But, I don't think any of that is really your issue. From what you've written (and you may intellectually maintain something else, but from what you have written here) you're operating as though, either the ACNA has valid Masses, or Jesus Christ is incapable of working through the ACNA. That is a false dichotomy. Just as people really and truly encounter Jesus in Baptist congregations, and then outgrow that congregation to be conformed evermore to the will of God, into say, a high church Anglo-Catholic denomination, we maintain that people can outgrow Anglicanism in the same way. We do not say that Christians who come together to worship Our Lord in denominations not our own, will have zero encounter with Him.
PS All that said, I don't want to overstate the magisterial weight of Leo XIII's bull on Anglican holy orders, if that is indeed a stumbling block to your reunion with the global historical Church.
@@claymcdermott718 Thank you for your thoughtful response. I admit I did simplify things. My original understanding was actually the correction you gave but I read elsewhere the issue wasn't one of ordination (after all the reforming bishops were ordained bishops) but of "changes to the mass" perhaps I was misinformed. Also I do hold that view of Christ meeting Christians everywhere. Part of my becoming Anglican was a recognition and emphasis on that reality in Communion. So we are very close indeed.
@@claymcdermott718 re: PS: I believe this was meant as a clarifying comment but I'm a bit confused. Are you saying that I may be overstating the weight of the bull and it shouldn't be an obstacle? Also part of the trouble is that I see myself as having reunited with the global historic Church by being Anglican. Things like the dogmatizing of the immaculate conception, a medieval formulation which I'm open to, is a tough bar of entry for many Protestants who otherwise truly love and know Christ. I can't want to be able to share the table with them as well.
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