Hi Ollie, I just wanted to say, thank you so much for these amazing videos. I’m 41 and have decided to apply to medical school. I know I’m late to the party 🤣 but after a 17-year career and 2 kids 👶🏻👶🏻 the fear of NOT going to medical school finally became bigger than the fear of actually going. It’s really daunting but your videos have given me such amazing insight. I’m planning to apply to Warwick so with any luck I will get the chance to experience it for myself. Thanks again!
Seems like a pretty protectionist move from the GMC (if even by inaction rather than direct obstruction) to address the dwindling workforce issue by making UK graduates unable to apply to training programes in the US they deem more appealing than those in the UK. They probably see no net benefit in moving on this matter either. Honestly quite a sad state of affairs and yet another example of the UK becoming more isolationist (to its own detriment).
Brexit??? Sounds rather a protectionist measure to keep the somewhat UK nationally subsidized medical education of home students 'at home'!!! Another Brexit win from the Tories😁😁😁
@@LanceCorporalEngland It's cheaper to complete med school in UK. Higher prospects in US . Some decide to leave because of the obvious ie. Higher Salaries. They sure aren't coming from EU in their droves so what is it you don't understand about it??? No different than the protocol requirements for NI. Can't have it both ways.
The medical schools council will almost certainly push for an application for accreditation. Money talks and if they do not do this, it is a death sentence to attracting any new international students. This is a huge loss of funding to them, so this should be easy to fix!
I'm a deputy rep for BMA. I will bring this issue up at the med student conference. I have contacted the GMC and this is an email I received to justify why this is the case: I can confirm that the GMC is not opposed, in principle, to seek ECFMG accreditation. However, as the cost of accreditation is substantial we, as a charity need to be able to justify our spending. As accreditation is not directly linked to UK Patient Safety or benefits UK Patients we do not believe we can justify this. We have suggested that if the UK medical schools along with the GMC wish to secure this recognition, it should be funded by the medical schools themselves, via the Medical Schools Council. We have contacted the Medical Schools Council about this and will be happy to update should we receive a response. I hope this makes the current position clear. It costs about 50-60k for accreditation and the GMC has a 140mil budget. It is ridiculous that they suggest they cannot pay. However, if you are a current med student who is planning on going to the US, make sure you apply for ECFMG accreditation by 2024 and I believe you may be fine. Please double-check. The WFME stated: If a student or graduate from a currently acceptable school applies for ECFMG Certification before 2024, they will be able to take the USMLE exams and obtain ECFMG Certification under our current rules, even if that process extends into 2024 or later. Also, the Medical Schools Council will probably pay for it - they don't want to lose international students. www.reddit.com/r/JuniorDoctorsUK/comments/wwg0nl/uk_medical_graduates_could_be_unable_to_work_in/
The GMC has no incentive to pay obviously, in fact it suits them if the UK grads are kept in the country to serve the NHS but the Medical schools council will be certainly affected considering the possible renenue loss if international students divert to somewhere else.
It’s not really about when you graduated but rather when you apply for ECFMG certification. Currently, as long as you are in an approved medical school (or a graduate from that school) you can apply for ECFMG certification and be verified
If you don't want to waste time waiting for GMC to be accredited after 2024, you can apply for ecfmg certification from now, it's easy and only costs 160usd. And according to ECFMG, if you are registered for ecfmg certification before 2024 and your school loses accreditation after 2024, you have no problem, you can still take the exams and get the certification
@@alicewang4406 it doesn't matter, once your application is accepted, you still can take the exams after 2024 and get the actual certification after completing the exams regardless of the status of your medical school by that time
Hello where does it mention you can take the exam as long as you’re registered before 2024? On the websit it mentions your school also needs to listed as current on test day “Notes tab of the World Directory listing for the student’s medical school must be listed as “Current” at the time of application for examination and on the test day.”
I’m a 5th year, graduating in 2024. What can I do to push for the GMC to take some bloody action. I’m not even looking to leave but I think trapping our graduates into this shitty system is nothing short of evil.
I got this response from the GMC so maybe put pressure on your medical school and the medical school council : I can confirm that the GMC is not opposed, in principle, to seek ECFMG (WFME) accreditation. However, as the cost of accreditation is substantial we, as a charity need to be able to justify our spending. As accreditation is not directly linked to UK Patient Safety or benefits UK Patients we do not believe we can justify this. We have suggested that if the UK medical schools along with the GMC wish to secure this recognition, it should be funded by the medical schools themselves, via the Medical Schools Council. We have contacted the Medical Schools Council about this and will be happy to update should we receive a response. I hope this makes the current position clear.
Hey Ollie I remember watching some of your videos pre interview last year, I got in and I’m starting med school in September! Thanks for being part of my journey :)
The whole system is completely nuts. The UK were saying that they would strengthen the ties with the US after Brexit, but the opposite is happening. It should be easier for UK residents to relocate to the US, especially for doctors. There are many doctors that would find better fulfillment abroad because the NHS only wastes their potential.
I doubt that Boris meant that the UK would send its medical graduates to the US and replace them with doctors from the rest of the world. That's not what the "foreigners out" crowd who voted for Brexit want either.
If we can’t go to the US there are plenty of other countries that have better pay and work life balance. All they are doing is putting foreign students off from coming here and undermining the quality of our education IMO.
@@A2Z84 Im saying that international students might be less inclined to study here if their degree isn’t recognised by the US not that they wouldn’t be allowed
Can someone expand on this? What is actually likely to happen? Will British trained Doctors actually be unable to do residency or move to the USA? Surely not; that’s absolutely ludicrous.
Students & drs can apply for ECFMG registration NOW (before the accreditation change comes into action in 2024) as those who complete verification & start the process will still be able to take the USMLEs & eventually match under the CURRENT rules. Any students coming into medicine from 2024 onwards, unfortunately they’re trapped it seems! Unless their medical school individually applies for accreditation
Was there any update to this situation? Has the GMC made an announcement regarding its intentions to pay the fee? I am a prospective medical student, looking to apply to Graduate Entry Medicine (after I secure a quick chemistry pre-req to top up an Aerospace Engineering degree), and this is a serious consideration for me as to whether to proceed with medical study in the UK. It might just be the deal breaker.
Holy crap 😲 This is unbelievable and pathetic 🌚 Many developing countries far less qualified than the uk has applied for accredition .. You just opened my eyes to this 😅
FYI: students & drs, it is in your best interest to apply for ECFMG registration NOW (before the accreditation change comes into action in 2024) as those who complete verification & start the process will still be able to take the USMLEs & eventually match under the CURRENT rules!!
I'm from sudan, and my medical school got this accreditation, it's just about paying money rather than take close views for medical school qualifications, it's so expensive to get or go through the process of accreditation.
Am I the only one triggered by the incorrect flag being used in the thumbnail for the UK? That is flag for Great Britain. Not the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Island.
You're right. He's showing the pre-1800 Union Jack, without St Patrick's Cross (the red diagonals). However, we'll be going back to that after Irish reunification, unless Scotland leaves first.
It sounds like away of keeping doctors in the UK from going aboard and keeping UK Doctors in the UK?? That's my general reading of it. Does anybody have any other ideas or am I wrong??
So effectively, what will happen is, people such as my self will go to Eastern Europe to study medicine so that I can then apply to residency in the USA. Their deliberate reluctance to register will backfire.
I wouldnt have thought this would be much of a surprise, considering the UK has a shortage of doctors. They will want to keep the doctors they have spent the time and money on within the country to work here. I am of 2 minds as to whether that is a good or a bad thing long term for everyone.
The government and the GMC know there are an increasing amount of doctors leaving for countries such as the US because of the appalling working conditions in the NHS. However, effectively trapping doctors in the UK isn’t the solution
@@tangerine2164or the feckless little self entitled turds shouldnt be so greedy, i blame education and the way things are coming to a head in uk, they will be re-educated thats the hard way or the easy way..
one you pass step one"before 2024" it doesn't matter wether your school is accrediniated or not. for those who are willing to apply for US residency, you just need to make your first step as soon as possible.
I graduated in 2019 and planning to take the step this year, will this affect me? Its so frustrating that these people would do this to essentially trap doctors
Once you pass all your step you will receive an ecfmg certificate that expires in 2024. If you match into residency, it will become permanent if not by 2024 it would not be renewed if your school is not accredited.
@@topmedicalshop @skin paul I already contact with them about the case, they told me that I only need to pass step one, and it's valid for 7 years to get full ecfmg certification, within those 7 years it doesn't matter the status of your school regarding ecfmg accreditaion.
@@anonymoususer-t7r @skin paul I already contact with them about the case, they told me that I only need to pass step one, and it's valid for 7 years to get full ecfmg certification, within those 7 years it doesn't matter the status of your school regarding ecfmg accreditaion.
@@walaaaldeenbabekir9856 Thanks for this. Also, if one pays for form 186 and get the ecfmg/USMLE ID prior to 2024 the status of your school does not matter even beyond 2024 to take the steps. I've been seeing this on various forums on Reddit by people who emailed WFME.
I think this discourages foreign students to come to UK for graduation. My son is going this year for graduation to UK, I need to really think as I do not want to limit him esp when I plan to move to US. 6:57
I am an international student who has applied for ug in uk. If I get in is it true that I can apply before 2024 so that even if the GMC doesn't register I can sit for usmle... If so could someone please share an official site link. Thank you
Out of interest, does anyone know if someone who has qualified before 2024 would need to apply for self-accreditation with the ECFMG at all to be able to take the USMLE at any stage in their career?
Yes you still need to apply for ECFMG registration before the accreditation change comes into action in 2024 as those who complete verification & start the process will still be able to take the USMLEs & eventually match under the CURRENT rules (this involves a form 186 and passport verification ~ $160)
How long after ecgfm certification do I have to give step 1? E.g. If I am first year and I register now can is there a rush for me to give usmle in a certain time period? Thanks
@@prannoysaha6157 bro where did you get this info? As per regulations if your school loses the accreditation status while you are in the process or not get accreditation after 2024 at the moment you are looking for the residency your application will be halted. Even though you have cleared both step exams. So it doesn't matter for how many years you got the certification, if your school is not listed you're going to wait for it.
Well, what about Canada, a member of the Commonwealth should be able to move here and set up shop. We're getting far too many from Middle East nations and their cultural practices don't always agree with free, open, equal Western way of living.
Hey Ollie, love you bro, but the info in this video is partially wrong. I suggest you do more research. Not going to specify because it’s a long story and I just started a night shift lol
Very happy to be corrected! Please let me know and can amend or update. I've since been contacted by a few and sounds like the MSC might be up for paying for it.
Hi , i m doing my medical school from India ( i.e - MBBS ) , and i want to pursue usmle . But due to their high cost of exam and less research opportunities in india ( and many other things which can improve my portfolio) , i want to come to uk through plab pathway and work at FY2 level for 1 yr so that i can save some money and can do other things for improving my cv . Is this is h good plan according to you ?
Still wouldn’t make a difference just because they’re then American citizens doesn’t mean their British medical degree will be recognised it’s the degree that’s the issue not the green card
Bloody good job aswell, we need them here... Well done america and thankyou...just a shame the uk youngters have no love for their ancestral home or for what their ancestors fought for, its basically on the verge of treachery and they will be judged for it..
If it makes you feel better, this has all since been updated and we can continue to emigrate as before. Judge us for treachery all you will, but until the NHS treats its staff better people will not stay.
@@OllieBurtonMed right, thats the plug after all with this thread, your a mouth piece for whats going on in uk with strikes, didnt take long to show your true colours, and you deny treachery, lets hope when a new goverment is in they realise this and self entitled jumped up little marxist like you never be allowed to work in uk healthcare sector again, good luck with merica and good bye..
I have no acute plans to leave myself and will likely remain working in the NHS, treating patients. I don't however understand how doctors going where they'll be paid more would make them Marxists - that's surely the most capitalistic thing they can do. You on the other hand seem to want the government to tell me where I can and can't work, which sounds pretty socialist to me
@@OllieBurtonMed no it wont be the goverment, it will be the people this time, sniff the breeze and hazard a guess what you sniff, you either part of the solution or part of the problem, enough said now an good day to you sir..ps and from the bottom of my heart I respect what your doing and the profession you chose into the honor and dedication into saving lives, but think if all likes of you have gone away to practice, think where and who mum will be left with to be cared for, a majority of healthcare workers who hate what we british stand for, see the problem now...
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Hi Ollie, I just wanted to say, thank you so much for these amazing videos. I’m 41 and have decided to apply to medical school. I know I’m late to the party 🤣 but after a 17-year career and 2 kids 👶🏻👶🏻 the fear of NOT going to medical school finally became bigger than the fear of actually going.
It’s really daunting but your videos have given me such amazing insight. I’m planning to apply to Warwick so with any luck I will get the chance to experience it for myself.
Thanks again!
I think is a great idea is never too late to get your medical degree .. wishing you all the best...
Thank you so much!
@@catherinesullivan1823
You welcome, I started mine a few years ago and I'm 35 will be done in 2 years , and also have a 👶...
@@drsyd3757 wow! That’s super inspiring!
Good luck Catherine, I'm 19 and hoping to apply as well.
Seems like a pretty protectionist move from the GMC (if even by inaction rather than direct obstruction) to address the dwindling workforce issue by making UK graduates unable to apply to training programes in the US they deem more appealing than those in the UK. They probably see no net benefit in moving on this matter either.
Honestly quite a sad state of affairs and yet another example of the UK becoming more isolationist (to its own detriment).
This is my feeling at present, it makes little sense for the GMC to engage with it so likely nothing will happen
Brexit???
Sounds rather a protectionist measure to keep the somewhat UK nationally subsidized medical education of home students 'at home'!!!
Another Brexit win from the Tories😁😁😁
@@gavinturner5565 how exactly are you linking this with brexit? Stop letting it live rent free in your head.
@@LanceCorporalEngland
It's cheaper to complete med school in UK.
Higher prospects in US . Some decide to leave because of the obvious ie. Higher Salaries. They sure aren't coming from EU in their droves so what is it you don't understand about it??? No different than the protocol requirements for NI. Can't have it both ways.
@@gavinturner5565 the career choices of doctors from the EU has nothing to do with the GMC not signing up to a US scheme. Give your head a shake.
The medical schools council will almost certainly push for an application for accreditation. Money talks and if they do not do this, it is a death sentence to attracting any new international students. This is a huge loss of funding to them, so this should be easy to fix!
I think it's the government 's point. Cutting funding....
I'm a deputy rep for BMA. I will bring this issue up at the med student conference. I have contacted the GMC and this is an email I received to justify why this is the case:
I can confirm that the GMC is not opposed, in principle, to seek ECFMG accreditation. However, as the cost of accreditation is substantial we, as a charity need to be able to justify our spending. As accreditation is not directly linked to UK Patient Safety or benefits UK Patients we do not believe we can justify this.
We have suggested that if the UK medical schools along with the GMC wish to secure this recognition, it should be funded by the medical schools themselves, via the Medical Schools Council. We have contacted the Medical Schools Council about this and will be happy to update should we receive a response. I hope this makes the current position clear.
It costs about 50-60k for accreditation and the GMC has a 140mil budget. It is ridiculous that they suggest they cannot pay. However, if you are a current med student who is planning on going to the US, make sure you apply for ECFMG accreditation by 2024 and I believe you may be fine. Please double-check. The WFME stated:
If a student or graduate from a currently acceptable school applies for ECFMG Certification before 2024, they will be able to take the USMLE exams and obtain ECFMG Certification under our current rules, even if that process extends into 2024 or later.
Also, the Medical Schools Council will probably pay for it - they don't want to lose international students.
www.reddit.com/r/JuniorDoctorsUK/comments/wwg0nl/uk_medical_graduates_could_be_unable_to_work_in/
Jesus Christ. The GMC has a 140m budget?! That's insanity.
The GMC has no incentive to pay obviously, in fact it suits them if the UK grads are kept in the country to serve the NHS but the Medical schools council will be certainly affected considering the possible renenue loss if international students divert to somewhere else.
Is there any way to petition the medical schools council about this?
If you graduated before 2024 can you still apply to the US? So can people who start foundation in 2023 apply to the US still with these rules
It’s not really about when you graduated but rather when you apply for ECFMG certification. Currently, as long as you are in an approved medical school (or a graduate from that school) you can apply for ECFMG certification and be verified
The issue has been solved! The ecfmg changed their requirements to accept programs accredited by the NCFMEA aswell and the UK is listed there
Sorry what does that mean? So does that mean I can get residency in the US?
@@infernalspy0176 Yes
yea
@@osamardi7836
Can you please share the link to your source?
@@AaronieroArruruerie-xr4zuIt’s Pathway 4 for ECFMG Certification.
If you don't want to waste time waiting for GMC to be accredited after 2024, you can apply for ecfmg certification from now, it's easy and only costs 160usd. And according to ECFMG, if you are registered for ecfmg certification before 2024 and your school loses accreditation after 2024, you have no problem, you can still take the exams and get the certification
Is this solution viable for current medical students? Because I can start applications but cannot obtain full certification until graduating
@@alicewang4406 it doesn't matter, once your application is accepted, you still can take the exams after 2024 and get the actual certification after completing the exams regardless of the status of your medical school by that time
Where do we apply?
Thanks, but could you share the site or source where we can see further as to where and how one might do that?
Hello where does it mention you can take the exam as long as you’re registered before 2024? On the websit it mentions your school also needs to listed as current on test day “Notes tab of the World Directory listing for the student’s medical school must be listed as “Current” at the time of application for examination and on the test day.”
I’m a 5th year, graduating in 2024. What can I do to push for the GMC to take some bloody action. I’m not even looking to leave but I think trapping our graduates into this shitty system is nothing short of evil.
I got this response from the GMC so maybe put pressure on your medical school and the medical school council :
I can confirm that the GMC is not opposed, in principle, to seek ECFMG (WFME) accreditation. However, as the cost of accreditation is substantial we, as a charity need to be able to justify our spending. As accreditation is not directly linked to UK Patient Safety or benefits UK Patients we do not believe we can justify this.
We have suggested that if the UK medical schools along with the GMC wish to secure this recognition, it should be funded by the medical schools themselves, via the Medical Schools Council. We have contacted the Medical Schools Council about this and will be happy to update should we receive a response.
I hope this makes the current position clear.
@@lexfluor The GMC are beyond a joke, if their sole purpose is to serve patients then why the fck are we funding their inflated salaries
Hey Ollie I remember watching some of your videos pre interview last year, I got in and I’m starting med school in September! Thanks for being part of my journey :)
Good luck!! You must have started by now - hope it's going well!
The whole system is completely nuts. The UK were saying that they would strengthen the ties with the US after Brexit, but the opposite is happening. It should be easier for UK residents to relocate to the US, especially for doctors. There are many doctors that would find better fulfillment abroad because the NHS only wastes their potential.
I doubt that Boris meant that the UK would send its medical graduates to the US and replace them with doctors from the rest of the world. That's not what the "foreigners out" crowd who voted for Brexit want either.
If we can’t go to the US there are plenty of other countries that have better pay and work life balance. All they are doing is putting foreign students off from coming here and undermining the quality of our education IMO.
@@A2Z84 Im saying that international students might be less inclined to study here if their degree isn’t recognised by the US not that they wouldn’t be allowed
I’m so sorry Rosie. I misread your post. I would delete that. You’re absolutely right.
Can someone expand on this? What is actually likely to happen? Will British trained Doctors actually be unable to do residency or move to the USA? Surely not; that’s absolutely ludicrous.
Students & drs can apply for ECFMG registration NOW (before the accreditation change comes into action in 2024) as those who complete verification & start the process will still be able to take the USMLEs & eventually match under the CURRENT rules. Any students coming into medicine from 2024 onwards, unfortunately they’re trapped it seems! Unless their medical school individually applies for accreditation
@@jess.olo16 what if I'm a first year medical student in 2023? As long as the process is "started" it counts?
The GMC is not your friend
Was there any update to this situation? Has the GMC made an announcement regarding its intentions to pay the fee? I am a prospective medical student, looking to apply to Graduate Entry Medicine (after I secure a quick chemistry pre-req to top up an Aerospace Engineering degree), and this is a serious consideration for me as to whether to proceed with medical study in the UK. It might just be the deal breaker.
Would love to get this question answered
To update everyone, the US fixed things on their side and UK grads don't neet to worry about anything.
Update coming soon, really need to broadcast this wonderful news. Comes with some states relaxing their need for US residency too
@@OllieBurtonMedwhat changed out of curiosity?
Thanks a lot!!! for this video I was eagerly waiting for this..!
Thanks god
The Egyptian medical schools are in the list
Why
Holy crap 😲
This is unbelievable and pathetic 🌚
Many developing countries far less qualified than the uk has applied for accredition ..
You just opened my eyes to this 😅
FYI: students & drs, it is in your best interest to apply for ECFMG registration NOW (before the accreditation change comes into action in 2024) as those who complete verification & start the process will still be able to take the USMLEs & eventually match under the CURRENT rules!!
Can this be done whilst still in medical school, or only once you e graduated?
Yes please answer this above question
@@mrgeek434 whilst you’re still in Med school. You can sign up for the ECFMG system from your 1st year.
@@gdup1728 yes you can apply whilst still in Med school!
@@jess.olo16 thank you very much! I would never have known
I'm from sudan, and my medical school got this accreditation, it's just about paying money rather than take close views for medical school qualifications, it's so expensive to get or go through the process of accreditation.
Am I the only one triggered by the incorrect flag being used in the thumbnail for the UK?
That is flag for Great Britain. Not the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Island.
You're right. He's showing the pre-1800 Union Jack, without St Patrick's Cross (the red diagonals). However, we'll be going back to that after Irish reunification, unless Scotland leaves first.
It sounds like away of keeping doctors in the UK from going aboard and keeping UK Doctors in the UK?? That's my general reading of it. Does anybody have any other ideas or am I wrong??
So effectively, what will happen is, people such as my self will go to Eastern Europe to study medicine so that I can then apply to residency in the USA.
Their deliberate reluctance to register will backfire.
Am a UK grad that did the steps and did residency training in the US glad I didn't have this headache to deal with
Hi,was it after your foundation training in the UK or immediately after med school?
Hello Ollie, just wondering if we've graduated from med school in the UK in 2022, does this still apply to me?
I wouldnt have thought this would be much of a surprise, considering the UK has a shortage of doctors. They will want to keep the doctors they have spent the time and money on within the country to work here. I am of 2 minds as to whether that is a good or a bad thing long term for everyone.
If they want their own doctors to remain in UK, they need to work better on working environment, salaries, benefits etc.
The government and the GMC know there are an increasing amount of doctors leaving for countries such as the US because of the appalling working conditions in the NHS. However, effectively trapping doctors in the UK isn’t the solution
@@tangerine2164or the feckless little self entitled turds shouldnt be so greedy, i blame education and the way things are coming to a head in uk, they will be re-educated thats the hard way or the easy way..
This is not a good thing in my opinion.
Thank you Dr osuma for saving me from this horrible experience called Genital warts I really appreciate
one you pass step one"before 2024" it doesn't matter wether your school is accrediniated or not. for those who are willing to apply for US residency, you just need to make your first step as soon as possible.
I graduated in 2019 and planning to take the step this year, will this affect me? Its so frustrating that these people would do this to essentially trap doctors
Once you pass all your step you will receive an ecfmg certificate that expires in 2024. If you match into residency, it will become permanent if not by 2024 it would not be renewed if your school is not accredited.
@@topmedicalshop @skin paul I already contact with them about the case, they told me that I only need to pass step one, and it's valid for 7 years to get full ecfmg certification, within those 7 years it doesn't matter the status of your school regarding ecfmg accreditaion.
@@anonymoususer-t7r @skin paul I already contact with them about the case, they told me that I only need to pass step one, and it's valid for 7 years to get full ecfmg certification, within those 7 years it doesn't matter the status of your school regarding ecfmg accreditaion.
@@walaaaldeenbabekir9856 Thanks for this. Also, if one pays for form 186 and get the ecfmg/USMLE ID prior to 2024 the status of your school does not matter even beyond 2024 to take the steps. I've been seeing this on various forums on Reddit by people who emailed WFME.
I think this discourages foreign students to come to UK for graduation. My son is going this year for graduation to UK, I need to really think as I do not want to limit him esp when I plan to move to US. 6:57
I tried to move to US its extremely difficult. I gave up.
What was it exactly did you find to be difficult? I've been considering it myself and the expenses are overwhelming :///
As an IMG, will I able to give the PLAB/UKMLA if I can’t give the USMLE?
Nothing changes about coming to the UK, it'll just be the PLAB or UKMLA. Unless I'm misunderstanding your question Bhargav?
I am an international student who has applied for ug in uk.
If I get in is it true that I can apply before 2024 so that even if the GMC doesn't register I can sit for usmle...
If so could someone please share an official site link.
Thank you
Out of interest, does anyone know if someone who has qualified before 2024 would need to apply for self-accreditation with the ECFMG at all to be able to take the USMLE at any stage in their career?
Yes you still need to apply for ECFMG registration before the accreditation change comes into action in 2024 as those who complete verification & start the process will still be able to take the USMLEs & eventually match under the CURRENT rules (this involves a form 186 and passport verification ~ $160)
How long after ecgfm certification do I have to give step 1? E.g. If I am first year and I register now can is there a rush for me to give usmle in a certain time period?
Thanks
Do want go USA as Doctor yes Thomas.
Do you have to just start the ECFMG application process before 2024 or actually take the step1 before 2024
You need to get into a residency program by 2024. The ecfmg certificate currently issued now is valid until 2024.
@@topmedicalshop not true, as long as you start your ECFMG application before 2024, you should be fine for 7 years.
@@prannoysaha6157 bro where did you get this info?
As per regulations if your school loses the accreditation status while you are in the process or not get accreditation after 2024 at the moment you are looking for the residency your application will be halted. Even though you have cleared both step exams.
So it doesn't matter for how many years you got the certification, if your school is not listed you're going to wait for it.
Man this is still so unclear, different sources are all saying different things..
So if graduated in 2020 I will be able to go to US later on?
Well, what about Canada, a member of the Commonwealth should be able to move here and set up shop. We're getting far too many from Middle East nations and their cultural practices don't always agree with free, open, equal Western way of living.
Hey Ollie, love you bro, but the info in this video is partially wrong. I suggest you do more research. Not going to specify because it’s a long story and I just started a night shift lol
Very happy to be corrected! Please let me know and can amend or update. I've since been contacted by a few and sounds like the MSC might be up for paying for it.
@@OllieBurtonMed I sent you a dm on instagram explaining everything. What do you mean; is the GMC going to apply for accreditation?
@@Sammy.a1287 Please do elaborate as I am a 2019 graduate planning to take the exam this year.
@@Sammy.a1287 Can you please explain in the comments
@@Sammy.a1287 any help with your explanations
Does this affect applying for residency in Canada?
Shouldn't do. That said, it's extremely difficult to get residency in Canada and will remain so for IMGs
@@OllieBurtonMed Would it be easier to specialise in the UK before seeking a job in Canada or are they equally difficult?
What about those who graduate earlier, 2023?
They have a chance to get into residency before 2024. After that they are as same as after graduated after 2024.
Hi , i m doing my medical school from India ( i.e - MBBS ) , and i want to pursue usmle . But due to their high cost of exam and less research opportunities in india ( and many other things which can improve my portfolio) , i want to come to uk through plab pathway and work at FY2 level for 1 yr so that i can save some money and can do other things for improving my cv .
Is this is h good plan according to you ?
England hard win Thomas.
woah
Hi
Ollie I will marry you, so you are covered if you need to move here to the USA.
Respectfully, 🗿
Still wouldn’t make a difference just because they’re then American citizens doesn’t mean their British medical degree will be recognised it’s the degree that’s the issue not the green card
He has a girlfriend...
Degree recognition is not sexually transmissible
wrong flag lol
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Bloody good job aswell, we need them here... Well done america and thankyou...just a shame the uk youngters have no love for their ancestral home or for what their ancestors fought for, its basically on the verge of treachery and they will be judged for it..
If it makes you feel better, this has all since been updated and we can continue to emigrate as before. Judge us for treachery all you will, but until the NHS treats its staff better people will not stay.
@@OllieBurtonMed right, thats the plug after all with this thread, your a mouth piece for whats going on in uk with strikes, didnt take long to show your true colours, and you deny treachery, lets hope when a new goverment is in they realise this and self entitled jumped up little marxist like you never be allowed to work in uk healthcare sector again, good luck with merica and good bye..
I have no acute plans to leave myself and will likely remain working in the NHS, treating patients. I don't however understand how doctors going where they'll be paid more would make them Marxists - that's surely the most capitalistic thing they can do. You on the other hand seem to want the government to tell me where I can and can't work, which sounds pretty socialist to me
@@OllieBurtonMed no it wont be the goverment, it will be the people this time, sniff the breeze and hazard a guess what you sniff, you either part of the solution or part of the problem, enough said now an good day to you sir..ps and from the bottom of my heart I respect what your doing and the profession you chose into the honor and dedication into saving lives, but think if all likes of you have gone away to practice, think where and who mum will be left with to be cared for, a majority of healthcare workers who hate what we british stand for, see the problem now...