www.angelartschool.com Michael John Angel from Angel Academy of Art, Florence, describes the history and course of training involved in becoming a traditional realist painter.
I just wondered what was the evidence for Nineteenth Century ateliers devoting so much time to the still life? Is this a more recent phenomenon, or one with historical precedence? If someone could site an actual source that would be great because I'm not currently aware of it. With all the atelier art schools that have emerged in the last fifteen years, the weakness appears to be that people become very proficient at painting objects or single figure studies of the nude, rather than narrative. In the Carracci Academy students - I believe of all levels - had competitions based on inventing depictions of narrative. One of the Carracci would choose a passage from a vernacular edition of Ovid. I went to a similar kinds of school for 4 years - much the same problem in a way. Or a tendency to revert to Modernist trends when my fellow pupils didn't know what to do with the figure, even though they had done numerous ten day oil paintings from life. If I was starting a school like this, I'd scrap still life, getting everyone's skill up on the figure and integrate narrative invention into the syllabus. Painting from finished drawings as much as from life. Close to daily pen and ink compositions from one's own invention and mandatory reading of Alberti's 'On Painting', Leonardo's notebooks on historical painting, Ludovico Dolce's 'Dialogue', Reynolds' 'Discourses' and Felibien's 'Conferences.' In all these texts rigorous technique had the aim of conveying the 'istoria' - that is the collective narratives and histories of culture. We need to be aiming for paintings that are 'cinematic', rather than a mere visual formalism. Historically classical painting was defined by the ability to convey the 'affetti' not a stationary looking figure or a vase on a podium. You'll find none of the later in the above texts.
Hi, don't suppose you have any advice for a guy who's training himself? I did the bargue, and have casts. I'm planning to do more painting of life models. I kinda thing I know what you mean, although not having attended an atelier myself. I get the sense that there's a lot of realism thought but no story or life. The paintings seem very cold and lifeless to me but very real looking indeed. What would you recommend to me in the way training and progress , if you were in my shoes? Thanks
every single bit of student's art they show is of better quality than that of every single art teacher i've ever had....how good do you have to be to do this this course??? is bordering on the ridiculous :O
Is that one of your students Jason Shutzman at 4:27. DId he do this painting of himself? Very impressive. I was one of his close friends growing up and I just booked a trip to Florence for a few days at the end of summer. So excited to see the city that inspires such great artists. Aloha from Hawaii!
michaelangelo, raphael and leonardo did not attend in this kind of school maybe they have attend apprenticeship but they flourished and doing great by their own!
What an excellent series. Very enjoyable and informative
Ah, how I wish I could go to Florence to study there!
This academy is extraordinary art school like the Odd Nerdrum academy and The Saint Petersburg art academy in Russia. Congratulations maestro Angel.
Super no perder el art verdadero por el cual muchos lo vimos y nos llevo a intentar. El oficio gracias
Really enjoyed that, thanks
Super work of art from you keep it
Awesome!
I just wondered what was the evidence for Nineteenth Century ateliers devoting so much time to the still life? Is this a more recent phenomenon, or one with historical precedence? If someone could site an actual source that would be great because I'm not currently aware of it.
With all the atelier art schools that have emerged in the last fifteen years, the weakness appears to be that people become very proficient at painting objects or single figure studies of the nude, rather than narrative. In the Carracci Academy students - I believe of all levels - had competitions based on inventing depictions of narrative. One of the Carracci would choose a passage from a vernacular edition of Ovid.
I went to a similar kinds of school for 4 years - much the same problem in a way. Or a tendency to revert to Modernist trends when my fellow pupils didn't know what to do with the figure, even though they had done numerous ten day oil paintings from life.
If I was starting a school like this, I'd scrap still life, getting everyone's skill up on the figure and integrate narrative invention into the syllabus. Painting from finished drawings as much as from life. Close to daily pen and ink compositions from one's own invention and mandatory reading of Alberti's 'On Painting', Leonardo's notebooks on historical painting, Ludovico Dolce's 'Dialogue', Reynolds' 'Discourses' and Felibien's 'Conferences.' In all these texts rigorous technique had the aim of conveying the 'istoria' - that is the collective narratives and histories of culture. We need to be aiming for paintings that are 'cinematic', rather than a mere visual formalism. Historically classical painting was defined by the ability to convey the 'affetti' not a stationary looking figure or a vase on a podium. You'll find none of the later in the above texts.
Hi, don't suppose you have any advice for a guy who's training himself? I did the bargue, and have casts. I'm planning to do more painting of life models. I kinda thing I know what you mean, although not having attended an atelier myself. I get the sense that there's a lot of realism thought but no story or life. The paintings seem very cold and lifeless to me but very real looking indeed. What would you recommend to me in the way training and progress , if you were in my shoes? Thanks
Can you teach me?
every single bit of student's art they show is of better quality than that of every single art teacher i've ever had....how good do you have to be to do this this course??? is bordering on the ridiculous :O
4:52, wow and I thought that was the mode and not the painting! It's just like a photograph!
I want to prepare there
Is that one of your students Jason Shutzman at 4:27. DId he do this painting of himself? Very impressive. I was one of his close friends growing up and I just booked a trip to Florence for a few days at the end of summer. So excited to see the city that inspires such great artists. Aloha from Hawaii!
michaelangelo, raphael and leonardo did not attend in this kind of school maybe they have attend apprenticeship but they flourished and doing great by their own!
Leonardo worked in Verrochio's workshop, where he learned everything he knew. It was like an Academy for him :)
i will rob 10 banks to enroll ti this school! lol
Me too
I GIVE UP..MUSIC SO SO ANNOYING!!!!