Chainsaw hand sharpening, Square ground filing explained.

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  • @AvocaSingleTrack
    @AvocaSingleTrack Год назад +7

    Start at 6:39 he really shows you exactly what you need to see. Thanks Buckin Billy ! After about 20 other confusing videos, you're the only one to show me exactly what i need to see , to understand what's going on.

  • @williamholton5150
    @williamholton5150 2 года назад +4

    Classic LOL, ‘cognizant is a big word for a faller.’ Thanks for posting this Buckin. Very helpful indeed. The word and the filing technique.

  • @jamescotie7535
    @jamescotie7535 2 года назад +9

    Thank you buckin', finally the file angle shown!! Awesome video, i'm a hand filer and wanted to try square filing but couldn't find a video that started with file position! I'm going looking for a file tomorrow! Thanks for sharing your fantastic knowledge!

  • @dog-ei4bz
    @dog-ei4bz Год назад +23

    So to tell how long I have been working a saw, I am closer to 70 than 60. I have always used a round file. I have an 024 Stihl wood boss with an 18" bar. Kind of underpowered for that bar. Anyway I used files, I used stones to sharpen this saw. It cut OK after sharpening, but would dull easy after slipping on the ground a few times cutting fire wood. I watched a utube on square filing. I was going to buy the file shown in the video but got impatient. I had a harbor freight square file as part of a file kit I bought there. Maybe 10 bux. Took me about an hour to get past the round. Just tried it out. I HAVE NEVER had a saw CUT SO WELL!!!! Underpowered? NOPE. Saw kicks a## now!!

    • @peachsncream5808
      @peachsncream5808 Год назад +2

      Thanks for sharing , brother …. I use the same saw 024 it’s as you say - Under powered bot ok - I,m going to try square cut . 👣🦘

  • @Zebracat5
    @Zebracat5 5 месяцев назад +1

    Love the Video Buckin. Im new to Sqaure Filing . Thanks for teaching me about it. Looks like you went through that Log like Hot Butter. Buckin you give alot of happiness to others. Deeply appreciated.

  • @craigwilson9560
    @craigwilson9560 2 года назад +6

    Buckin Billy Ray, great close up of the square grind filing! Appreciate ya taking the time to show us round filing and now square grinding! Nice older homelite you had there!

  • @canamrider7195
    @canamrider7195 2 года назад +10

    This is the video I have been waiting for, and just in time. I bought the files a couple of years ago, and tried reprofiling some round ground chains. I wasn't all that impressed, and it was a hell of a lot of work. This winter I have been buying Oregon Sqr Ground chains to use and will be maintaining them with the files, and this video will go a good ways in helping me.

    • @stihlnz
      @stihlnz 2 года назад

      Rider, just saying BBR has 20+ years of doing it by hand ..AND he has a Simington 451C behind him ... If I didn't have a simington I'm not sure I could keep it up. There is another "God" grinder Stihl fan swisse ... he has really good camera's take a look good luck. There is a small jig that Bailey's sell for a few hundy.

    • @canamrider7195
      @canamrider7195 2 года назад +1

      @@stihlnz I can do the sqr ground filing. Not as easy as round filing, but still is not brain surgery. I just found that going from a round file to a square filing to be a bit to much work and the cutting wasn't worth the effort. I will see if the square filing from the box is any better then round ground.
      I use to use a bench mounted grinder for my round filing. Was better then nothing when I was new to chainsaws. Once I evolved to hand filing the bench grinder was sold. Never again. Not as good as a vice and a file.

    • @nikky3piece452
      @nikky3piece452 9 месяцев назад

      @stihlnz Where can a guy buy these files from?

  • @johndavid6956
    @johndavid6956 10 месяцев назад +2

    Highly impressed with that old Homelite. Im definitely a believer after watching this.

  • @Magoot2456
    @Magoot2456 11 месяцев назад

    You answered a question of mine without even having to ask it! I took my stihl 460 into the shop to have the chain sharpened (assuming they had a grinder) and got it back without checking it like an idiot! Just noticed today that now my chain is square ground AND round ground on random teeth! Super mad about it. So, you changing a round to square was a question I had :) thanks BBR

  • @dalehuston7374
    @dalehuston7374 2 года назад

    Thanks for the detailed explanation of square filing, this is the best demonstration I’ve seen! Thanks

  • @northwesternoregonoutdoora5467
    @northwesternoregonoutdoora5467 2 года назад +1

    Love your positive vibe. Thanks Buckin'.

  • @jenpsakiscousin4589
    @jenpsakiscousin4589 2 года назад +12

    I like the special files that I think valorbi makes for one of the square corner filing jigs. I think it’s the A-top.They have only 1 Bevel per edge. They work the best and give you a better view of the cut. I’ve been doing square chain for a long time and it doesn’t take that long to get good at filing them. For a while years ago the only skip chain I could get in bulk was square corner so I learned how to sharpen it.

  • @donhughesman5737
    @donhughesman5737 11 месяцев назад

    Its frisbie time!!!! ❤ thanks for sharing this gem friend. You make us all better.

  • @tdjramsey
    @tdjramsey 2 года назад +9

    Rest in Peace Robert Paxton McCulloch....February 25th 1977 the great innovator of the greatest chainsaw in the world "McCulloch" passed away.... This man created a legacy that everyone on this channel or anyone involved with a saw will recognize. God Bless us all

  • @KC-wf7qt
    @KC-wf7qt Год назад

    First time I saw you do this I tried it on my Stihl, hoo boy did it make a difference. Thanks as always billy🤙

  • @tazman-kennyfuller
    @tazman-kennyfuller 2 года назад +2

    Thank you Buckin. The top plate angle is the one that gives me fits hahahaha. Gonna stay after it though because it will help in certain falling scenarios. Love ya brother. 🌲❤🌲👊🪓

  • @moose1164
    @moose1164 2 года назад +4

    I got onto square files about a year ago. A fellow old time logger put me on them that’s been running a saw longer then I been alive and every time I grabbed one of his saws I was always amazed at how sharp his chains were. I’ve noticed though that square filing isn’t as forgiving as circle files. You can mess up your teeth quickly filing it wrong. Once you get the hang of it though I promise you won’t pick up another circle file.

  • @Italiachainsaw
    @Italiachainsaw Год назад

    you are my teacher I follow all your videos Greetings from Italy

  • @Eric-gi9kg
    @Eric-gi9kg 2 года назад

    I've only seen electric grinders doing the square cut. Not being able to buy one, but wondered if anyone did do it by hand. So THANKS for sharing this.
    Now all I need to do is find a Good Set

  • @tome.joyner887
    @tome.joyner887 2 года назад

    Power saw in your hands.....means you are feeling a little better! That makes me happy Buckin!

  • @Helga____
    @Helga____ Год назад

    Most excellent video, just found it 👌🏻💯
    These tips on filling must have helped so many people 😄

  • @ClintsHobbiesDIY
    @ClintsHobbiesDIY 2 года назад +1

    I've square filed three times.
    Swedish made files. I have two of the same.
    It's cutting better each time.
    Big learning curve for me.

  • @Keithskane
    @Keithskane 2 года назад +3

    Hope all the family is doing well. Sayin G'day from Western Australia. Keep it sharp and keep it cutting hippy logger🤘

  • @busieidgsyn4262
    @busieidgsyn4262 2 года назад +4

    Ladies, find you a man’s that loves you as much as Mr. Buckin loves a powersaw

  • @woody1755
    @woody1755 2 года назад

    You have no idea how much you have improved my sharpening skills still have a ways to go but gettin close

  • @stevetheriault4164
    @stevetheriault4164 2 года назад +1

    THE LITTLE SAW THAT COULD,, SHE SURE THROWS THE CHIPS GREAT JOB TINMAN

  • @mikefrady2378
    @mikefrady2378 2 года назад

    Buckin I just got good at sharpening my chain(thank you) now I have to get one of these new files and start over! Great video thanks

  • @MapleMonkeyHomestead
    @MapleMonkeyHomestead 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for the tips! I'm trying to get my homelite xl1 going i found in a junkyard.
    Definitely going to be giving a flat file a go after only trying to round file.
    Thanks for the great video!

  • @martinclark6952
    @martinclark6952 2 года назад

    Buckin you sure are living the life, thank you for the inspiration!

  • @danielmccraw6866
    @danielmccraw6866 2 года назад +8

    I'm interested in square filling like this now, how do I know what file to buy?... also, the way u where filing both from one side of the chain, I was doing that with a round file the other day, sure felt right for me ... can't wait to try this one out..thanks man

    • @michaelberger6255
      @michaelberger6255 2 года назад +1

      I’m also interested in it as well are there any files for a .325 chain I can’t really find one

  • @Casterman2
    @Casterman2 2 года назад

    You lifting that tree butt backed against that fence is epic. One of my faves! Love ya Buckin

  • @williamokrasinski9840
    @williamokrasinski9840 Год назад +1

    Just a POG bystander here. Thanks Billy for your long time presence on the Tube and your hours of instructions. I've only ever used a round file for more than 30 Yrs. on 3/8" Chisel chain for Fir firewood only heat. But!!! I'd like to try my (left) hand at square filing. What is the make, brand of file you use for Square filing. Stay safe. Give Glory.

  • @gerryspang5917
    @gerryspang5917 2 года назад +1

    Like the way you make the old chainsaws of days gone by cut like a knife through butter, the new saws don’t seem to be any better. Makes me wonder what you can do with the new saws. Cheers my friend.

  • @stevec8861
    @stevec8861 2 года назад +1

    Great teaching. Any amateurs try and prefer this vs. round filing? Have only done round filing to date chez moi.

  • @shawnatkinson2086
    @shawnatkinson2086 2 года назад +22

    Buckin, I have always used a round file. Can you recommend a flat/square file to buy? I would really like to try square filing. And thank you for the constant supply of falling/buckin/sharpening knowledge

    • @marcustraber
      @marcustraber 2 года назад +6

      Pferd double-bevels are my favorite because the triangle-type don't make as large of a cut. Since the triangle ones take less material they're better for field-touchup, but require more gullet maintenance.

    • @aus71383
      @aus71383 2 года назад +5

      As far as I can tell, the Vallorbe he's using in this video, and that Stihl Fan Suisse uses in his videos, isn't available in the United States. Pferd files are pretty common, they make a double bevel as well.

    • @marcustraber
      @marcustraber 2 года назад +2

      @@aus71383 In the video it’s a vallorbe. This guy is good ^^

    • @ecstans07
      @ecstans07 2 года назад +4

      Pferd are good but I find the corner starts to wear and round over pretty quickly. You’d hope a $15 file would last a little longer.

    • @marcustraber
      @marcustraber 2 года назад +1

      @@ecstans07 they’re only $15 if you buy a few dozen. I’ve been paying $20 individually!

  • @portedhead7164
    @portedhead7164 2 года назад +1

    Buckin' your optimism is very appreciated, as always. I'm concerned that that sweet little Homelite sure plugs the fan inlet quickly. I,m sure you're aware, but I apparently need to worry.

  • @Ozarktreeworks
    @Ozarktreeworks 2 года назад

    The knowledge is invaluable from this Chanel

  • @thebradleysoncatbirdhill6849
    @thebradleysoncatbirdhill6849 2 года назад +5

    Professor Buckin' Billy Ray's "Filing Friday" class! Present and ready to learn, sir!
    Beautifully demonstrated and explained. What a wonderful way to start my Friday after work.
    Love you all...❤️❤️❤️
    Lieutenant Bradley

  • @chrisbeech4280
    @chrisbeech4280 Год назад

    Been thinkin bour givin the square ground chain a try, thanx for the tips Buckin

  • @renatoferlin
    @renatoferlin Год назад

    Sei il numero 1 , top !!!!
    Un saluto from Italy

  • @edmarguilherme3705
    @edmarguilherme3705 2 года назад +1

    Excelente afiaçao parabéns.
    Qual e o modelo dessa lima que você usou?

  • @wompwomp9
    @wompwomp9 2 года назад

    Man I love that saw. I just looks handy and a pleasure to use. Love it.

  • @joebradley7317
    @joebradley7317 2 года назад +5

    Billy Ray Man, Those close ups of the blades being sharpened are bad ass. Now how many times can you sharpen a blade before it is
    considered useless ?? Love your videos brother so keep it up Friend !!!

  • @connorbarnes6956
    @connorbarnes6956 2 года назад +1

    Hey man my names connor Barnes I'm from walker county Alabama I'm 14 and I've Ben running powersaws for a few years now for extra cash during the summer and I just wanna say thanks I love your channell the quotes the learning experience I just love it it's amazing good job and keep it up I look forward to seeing your next video and if you see this wuld you give me a shout out again my name is connor Barnes anyways I love you man stay safe ✌ peace

  • @richardjennex6583
    @richardjennex6583 2 года назад +1

    Good afternoon bud hope all is well with you and your family and thank you for sharing

  • @jamesp2662
    @jamesp2662 2 года назад

    Your the man. I use a 6 side triangle. Never any dish out. Came across a old Mac belonged to my bosses grand pappy it has 404 semi chisel n half a spool of chains im so stoked. In your opinion who would be the best man to send it to to be b ported. I live in Alaska am avid on your channel watch em all. Stay happy keep the faith buddy James P In Alaska.

  • @Wanghealer
    @Wanghealer 2 года назад +1

    Nice thumbnail billy. lookin good, lookin sharp

  • @robertschaeffer5861
    @robertschaeffer5861 5 месяцев назад

    Been using sq. cut for rippin' out slabs an planks. Almost to aggressive for cross cuts. Thanks for the video.

  • @benhumpin
    @benhumpin 2 года назад

    NICE!!! Really enjoyed this one.

  • @kevinduff3797
    @kevinduff3797 2 года назад

    Ol' Myrtle coming up the driveway looks so cool!😎

  • @jonathanst.michel4935
    @jonathanst.michel4935 2 года назад

    Thanks for breaking down sharpening Barney style; I stink at sharpening. I've been using a round file for years and always felt that the blade would dull very quickly, especially when cutting oak. I'm going to find that file you were using and give that a try. Thanks

  • @brandonsholes2016
    @brandonsholes2016 2 года назад

    Be Kind Buckin Keep on Keeping on with love from MN

  • @justinweaver8787
    @justinweaver8787 2 года назад

    Very good information thank u so much for sharing ur knowledge its truly appreciated.

  • @donb8447
    @donb8447 2 года назад +1

    I took a bar vise, cut the tree dog spikes off...welded a piece of 1/8th plate to it with screw holes, it makes a big difference for bench sharpening, especially on longer bars like an MS880. :)

  • @shortfuse43
    @shortfuse43 2 года назад +6

    Very nice closeups of the filing...thanks. A question...when you are adjusting the saw while running, what screws are you usually tweaking? High, low, idle? It must be significant 'cause I see you doing it quite often to optimize the cutting action.

    • @mmmbbbccczzz
      @mmmbbbccczzz 2 года назад +1

      In the cut he's likely adjusting the H..

  • @joeb3556
    @joeb3556 Год назад

    Buckin Billy Ray I like the way you sharpening chain saw,and thank you for your advice may God bless you 🙏 ❤😅

  • @mattdanaher1977
    @mattdanaher1977 2 года назад

    Hey Buckin, need a little help. Just bought 6 axe handles from a company making axes in Maine. Brant and Cochran. I’m 61 and thought I’d try my hand at making some axes spreading some kindness and give them to deserving people. I bought a 3.5 lb head to start but I’m looking for axe heads. Anybody you use or a website I could check out. Thanks!! Maybe the Buckin army can point me in the right direction!! Love the show!!

  • @torreyintahoe
    @torreyintahoe 2 года назад

    I got a stihl 2 in 1 file and that thing works so well that I'm not screwing around with free handing anymore.

  • @danshouseofsmokeandoutdoor7119
    @danshouseofsmokeandoutdoor7119 2 года назад

    I really like to try. Some square filling. The type of trees I cut it wouldn’t be good idea. Lots of dead fallen trees. Normally use a simi chisel chain. Good video 👍🏻

  • @michaelbiggers7605
    @michaelbiggers7605 2 года назад +14

    Who makes the file you are using? Profile looks great and seems to cut very well.

    • @brentdavis4867
      @brentdavis4867 2 года назад +4

      2nd'd

    • @aus71383
      @aus71383 2 года назад +4

      It's a Vallorbe, the part number is LC10020-2279-8, they aren't available in the U.S. as far as I can tell

    • @jesusischrist1527
      @jesusischrist1527 2 года назад +2

      @@aus71383 not sure if they are sold in America or not but you can buy a stihl sharpening block and take the square files out of it and they work really good.. its just a little more expensive than buying the single round or square files by itself but you get 6 files for +/-$50 depending on where you get it ...the Ace hardware down the road from my house has a stihl department in it and even though they also sell other cheaper brands , the stihl block is the way to go as you get 1 of each size file but like i said its just a little more expensive than the off brand ones but to be honest , if you know what your doing then you can get a good sharpness off just about any file once you adjust to it and learn how to use it but anyhow thanks for the info and part number for that file , thank you i will look into trying to find one gere in Alabama 👍

    • @michaelbiggers7605
      @michaelbiggers7605 2 года назад +1

      @@aus71383 Thanks greatly for the info.

    • @michaelbiggers7605
      @michaelbiggers7605 2 года назад +2

      @@jesusischrist1527 Thanks Greatly for the info.

  • @tobyvance893
    @tobyvance893 2 года назад +1

    I always hand file and do one side at a time. It usually takes me at least 8 strokes to get an edge. But I've been wanting to do a chisel bit square file cause I don't need 2 files. I can do my cleaners with the same file

  • @Niko-po9oi
    @Niko-po9oi 11 месяцев назад

    Thanks man! Another good video

  • @andyhall3122
    @andyhall3122 2 года назад

    Thank you buckin much love my friend

  • @andrewketchum5098
    @andrewketchum5098 2 года назад +1

    Hey buckin I've never seen the flat file trick before is that founded on the edge or just straight square please let me know I'd love to try it thanks for what you do brother

  • @jamesrice7287
    @jamesrice7287 2 года назад

    Just noticed tour table bar clamp. Disregard my vice question. That thing looks awesome.

  • @mircomaker5.0.faidate7
    @mircomaker5.0.faidate7 2 года назад

    HALLO Billy, from Italia.
    You are the best !!!

    • @BuckinBillyRaySmith
      @BuckinBillyRaySmith  2 года назад

      Italy ,,, I notice my Friends are growing there ...love you thx

  • @carl4130
    @carl4130 11 месяцев назад

    Looks awesome how do you know what angle also what size of file

  • @martyrutter3630
    @martyrutter3630 2 года назад +1

    Where do you get your files from Buckin? Nice details on filing 👍👍

  • @heinzschonborn6941
    @heinzschonborn6941 2 года назад +1

    Jes..so Nice and pouerful...greit..🤩🤩🤩🤗😎😉🙂🤙🤘✊👍👌🤝🙏

  • @leontaylor3572
    @leontaylor3572 2 года назад

    what cc saws do you like the best? Loving your informative videos

  • @matstevenson5972
    @matstevenson5972 Год назад

    Hell yes bro. Great job! I do lots of different work but my favorite is cutting trees down with ropes and spikes. I talked to a few people about square files but they don't sharpen their chains. I do cuz this one time 15 years ago, the shop used a way too thin wheel and I couldn't get me file through. Then a guy said he didn't sharpen it so I could take it home and sharpen it and they wanted me to pay to rework it with correct wheel, showed me how to put my man hands on it and fix it myself and also came at me saying to never file the rakers cuz normies can't handle it. This is the most informative video the universe put in front of my eyes. Thank you sir. I'm going to find a square file and buy it

  • @abuickguy6335
    @abuickguy6335 2 года назад

    Hi Buckin', Could you give us some details on some of your favorite older saws. I've got every new saw that I've ever wanted, but I keep finding myself looking at the classics to purchase.

  • @two-strokesmoke7289
    @two-strokesmoke7289 2 года назад

    Talkingaboutgeopoliticalissueswithoutreallytalkingaboutthem,cool. Thanks for thevideo BBR.

  • @carmeloromanelli8603
    @carmeloromanelli8603 2 года назад

    Amazing!!! Awesome, how I can found that file?

  • @jasonlewis4837
    @jasonlewis4837 2 года назад +2

    What brand file is that kind sir?

  • @bharatmehta4057
    @bharatmehta4057 2 года назад +1

    Good job sir ji 👍🇮🇳

  • @briananderson7092
    @briananderson7092 2 года назад

    I love my Simington grind to much.

  • @dennismichael851
    @dennismichael851 2 года назад

    Very smooth cut nice.

  • @AlexSwan
    @AlexSwan Год назад

    What brand file is this? My Stihl triangle file looks very different. The small face is much smaller.

  • @KevinKohley
    @KevinKohley 7 месяцев назад

    I just switch by accident and love that chain, finally found a file but doesn’t sharpen the same as new, that file is exactly what I need, where can I get 1 nobody where I’m at has them?!!

  • @rickstafford5316
    @rickstafford5316 2 года назад

    Good info. Might just try it.

  • @sydneyneilson7253
    @sydneyneilson7253 Год назад

    How does a square filed chain go in dry hardwood. I’m in Australia and our red gum, ironbark, and box trees are very hard. Just wondering if this type of filing is appropriate, or if it is better suited to softwoods like pine and conifers.

  • @TM-qp3pw
    @TM-qp3pw 2 года назад

    I have been using the round file can I start using the square file on the same chain

  • @stephanlorenz9240
    @stephanlorenz9240 2 года назад +1

    Where did u bought that file , and what Kind is it ? Do you got a link for it ?

  • @JoeRainis156
    @JoeRainis156 2 года назад +3

    “Throw away them filin’ guides”

  • @theusconstitution1776
    @theusconstitution1776 2 месяца назад

    The first video of yours that I watched you talked about being a man and they adjust enjoy being a man!❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥 I understand that sentiment in the world where many are confused about that subject if you can imagine😳❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥🇺🇸🇨🇦

  • @MartinLaforce
    @MartinLaforce Месяц назад +1

    I relly want to know what file hes using

  • @alanvanclief7802
    @alanvanclief7802 10 месяцев назад

    So, which is better, square or round? I've been trying the techniques for round filing, and my firewood cutting seems better.

  • @ToastedBread12
    @ToastedBread12 2 года назад +1

    What about the new hex chain? Would love a race 💯🌲🌳

  • @Solarbor
    @Solarbor Год назад +2

    which file is this which brand?

  • @CodyClower-dx2my
    @CodyClower-dx2my Месяц назад

    Best I’ve ever seen

  • @tomcooke6670
    @tomcooke6670 2 года назад

    Could you do the same with the round file on the off side

  • @karlbuttler
    @karlbuttler Год назад

    Wow, that really cuts nice, what type of file is that? It looks like a 90 degree flat file.....k

  • @brandonjoseph6407
    @brandonjoseph6407 8 месяцев назад

    If you're filing with a flat file what if you stayed flat like you do with a round file what would it do to the chain?

  • @gregwinger6717
    @gregwinger6717 4 месяца назад

    Love the stump vice

  • @awesometopics1988
    @awesometopics1988 Год назад

    Can you tell me where to get the square file you used in this video ...thanks bucking

  • @loggerjake8506
    @loggerjake8506 2 года назад

    I have to file up on that side too. It just works for me and I don't think it matters going up on one side and down on the other. Glad to see I'm not the only one. 🙂 Love ya Buckin!

  • @patdufresne6209
    @patdufresne6209 Год назад

    Hello there, can you post the link of that square ground file that have beenn using? Just wnt to make sure, I'm using what the pros use! Thanks for the great content.

    • @briantruax1682
      @briantruax1682 Год назад

      Valorbi brand made in sweden..you can also use pfred double bevel bit file

  • @denisbertin1812
    @denisbertin1812 2 года назад +1

    Bonjour Mr,
    Tu devrais regarder la vidéo de "Stihl Fan Suisse " sur l'affutage à la lime double trapèze !!!
    Bonne journée

  • @mikehoisington6145
    @mikehoisington6145 2 года назад

    Howdy friend, this is Mike from Michigan and first of all great video thank you for it, I was just wondering if you have a link to where someone like myself could buy some of them square files which I have been bench grinding my whole life and would like to try the square file cut because as you know you are not making money with your chainsaw idle Changing out chains n the more time in the wood equals more $$ so if you could please direct me to a link that would be great my friend!
    God bless you and yours