This makes the deacons of the deep way more cohesive in the story than what we got in the final product. My theory is that the story was getting way too busy with so many different elements so they boiled it down to the basics and jury rigged things to try and fit in, like Pontiff Sulyvahn becoming an ambitious schemer and root cause of many plot points in DS3, or the whole thing with the Serpent Angels being so subdued, or the Oceiros and the new archdragons being basically scrapped aside from secret sidequest stuff.
The main Deacon is also inside the coffin in the retail version until it actually spawns in the battle, it doesn't necessarily mean Aldrich would have spill out from there but it's still a really cool idea
Thanks for doing these videos! It's always interesting to see early designs of areas The different door placement of the chapel is interesting. It makes the semi-hidden path outside to the bottom of the area a lot more useful. One could go down there and jump into the chapel through the window and get inside earlier if you are attentive. It's a shame they didn't keep it that way
Dunno about it being Aldrich or not, but the giant slug monster definitely feels like it could be a missing enemy from DS3. The normal slug monsters are called "Little Slug of the Eclipse." The word "little" implies there'd be a bigger one, otherwise it would just be called "Slug of the Eclipse". That concept art sure looks like a design for a Great Slug of the Eclipse, lol. But wait, there's more! The Little Slugs have a cut variant called "Little Slug of etc: Mound of Hollows", which can be seen in Lance's cut DS3 enemies video. Will you look at that? It's actually a mass of bodies with the faces staring at you, that looks not all that dissimilar to our concept art here, only on a small scale. Instead of big eyes, it has big yellow pustules, so it's not an exact match, but it still has that nasty bulbous look. It's still called Little Slug, even though once the mound appears, it's actually pretty big, once again, implying there is a bigger, more messed up version of that. I was always confused why it was cut from the game, as it looked really cool and fit in with the other body horror enemy designs in the game. As I was typing this two more images popped in my head. Remember those grey sacks hanging off of trees in the Farron Keep swamp? Those things clearly look like they're of some importance, like some kind of messed up nests, but in the retail game they're completely static and do nothing. Now looking at the sketch, their shape and texture resembles the sketch image's hanging sack thing in the top right of the image. Could it have been another piece of cut content involving the eclipse slugs? Now for a complete asspull on my part. I said two images popped into my head. The first was the Farron sacks. The second was the leaked image of the original Dreg Heap with the bleeding sun and a cut monster of huge size staring at you from the distance. Everyone assumed it was "Snake Soul" the fully realised Puss of Man boss. But what if it's not him? I mean, Puss has giant hands for one, yet that dark monster is just a weird torso. And it looks as if it's head is a lot smaller, and its torso thickens unnaturally. Puss is an even tube, like a snape. It doesn't fit. You showed something that fits a lot better for our mystery clad in black. Looking at that concept art, doesn't he look a lot like the shadowy mosnter from the leak? The lack of limbs, the narrowing head and bloated curved torso. It's an almost exact match! And the sketch shows that the creature is massive in size. The only thing missing are those spikes and some drooping gunk from its mouth. The implications would be horrific, as it would be a mountain of hollows consumed into one monstrous creature. Looping back to Little Slug Mound of Hollows, maybe it got cut because the Great Slug and the slug nests were also cut along with it. The goal seems to have been to turn Little Slug into a relatively normal slug enemy, not a weird abomination made of hollows. A small thing in this idea's favor is this: Even the normal Little Slug enemy had an attack where human arms sprouted from its head, as shown off by Lance in the cut enemy video. But this was also taken out of the normal slug enemy that appears in the game! My speculation's almost certainly completely wrong, but it is interesting how well this fits with other cut content and enigmas in the game. Imagine if it turned out that shadowy silhouette from the leak was a freaking slug monster all along. Hahaha I know it's late to say this, but these videos were very insightful bruv. Great job.
@@abyss1ne17 wow I didn't know sekiro didn't. Figured people where just busy on dark souls still. Tho sekiro could be in part do to Activision's involvement.
What an amazing findings! Is there any chance that we'll see more BTTA content from the past DS games in the future? DS2 was the one part that no one has fully covered in terms of finding an unused maps.
@@abyss1ne17 Just commenting to add that I would also love to see as much changed/cut content from DS2 as well. Since it was so overhauled mid production, I can imagine there would be a lot of changes around **somewhere**
@@Red-Tower yes there are many things in ds2, but much of it is work of comparison, changed places, I would have to create a documentary to talk about ds2, this is in my plans.
@@abyss1ne17 I'm VERY excited. You've well earned yourself the sub, I'm quite the purveyor of DS cut content (and berserk stuff) and i was both impressed and intrigued by how much you managed to cover with such a simple vid.
@@formerlymax I just love berserk, I made a full size Dragon Slayer Sword, you can see it in my Elden Ring react video, I'm making ds3 have a sense of urgency and I will use every inch of berserk to make this story more cohesive. ruclips.net/video/ria2DfJbZH8/видео.html&ab_channel=Abyss1ne
Another fantastic video. I had heard from another Souls enthusiast who mentioned Yhorska being in the COTD in the cleansing Chapel, but this was the first time I've seen her in other spots throughout the place! Question regarding that concept art; is it available to find online to look at? I'd like to look at it in more detail. Or maybe if you could point me in the direction of the company that worked on these concepts? Thank you and keep up the great work!
Of Course, that is if you are talking about the image of what I think is the Sullivan Prototype (Aldrich) All of this fascinates me greatly and I'm glad you enjoyed it, should you need any more information, I'm always here if you need me. www.3dvf.com/actualite-18634-passion-republic-showreel-concept-art-2016-html/ Passion Republic 2016 ShowReel www.cgmeetup.net/home/concept-art-reel-2016-by-passion-republic/concept-art-reel-2016-by-passion-republic-13/ Img Link
@@abyss1ne17 thank you so much! That's exactly what I was referring to, the Aldrich prototype image. I knew Fromsoftware would outsource some of their art work so that is very cool. Thanks so much again!
One other caveat, it was there during the development period of the Network test, I really have no way to attest that it was always there, I would need to have a pre early version 2014 to say with 100% certainty, the Network test is full of crazy, internal pressures. Probably it existed in another map.
@@abyss1ne17 the network test which your video series is based on, is that an Alpha Network test build? Which is an earlier version of the game before the Beta Network test before release. Is that correct? I am trying to get a mental road map of how the concepts, characters, and storyline evolved over the course of development. I've seen other videos and podcasts that have discussed cut/changed content before, but it's been difficult to get an idea of what came before what.
@@davideo7286 What I use as a base is the images from The Know, conversations that I already had with some devs that answered me and most old data that exists in NT and that do not conflict with the images from The Know, if they conflict, I disregard them. I admit that it is not easy to understand, I myself have been gathering information for 2 years.
I dont know, maybe if my videos get to someone who has them and that person decides to give them to me, I wouldn't even leak the build, the only thing that interests me is getting the map files and putting them in the retail game, it's likely to have more bugs than something working in it.
Based on the info in this video, I'm assuming the Rosaria room boss fight was already cut by the time of the network test. Is it possible that the Man-Grubs labeled for a boss fight were actually supposed to be located there?
é tipo o que resta de info pra segurar posição, porque de uma versão pra outra de mapa que eles vao mudando ficam infos do que eles alteraram, antes tinha isso, eles retiraram, mas restou essa posição salva pra inimigo (id)
Two options for this, either it was a sketch from a certain stage of Lore produced in 2015, or they were actually places where dead pilgrims left a message.
50002 黒ゴースト（ボス守護者誓約(ロザリア)） Black Ghost (Boss Guardian Pledge (Rosalia)) 50001 White Ghost (Boss Guardian Pledge (Rosaria)) Yeah i found this, but it's basically HalfLight
@@abyss1ne17 So, if the Demon Prince is a re-used Crimson Bat, Midir is a re-used Mother Dragon, and Halflight is a re-used PVP boss which would have been the purpose of Rosaria's Fingers, is Gael the only boss which didn't exist in some form beforehand in the Ringed City DLC?
@@Indie-anaJones No, he exists, he is literally Knight Hodrick, that crazy spirit invader that appears several times, they just reused him, the same goes for Yorshkka / Fillianore&Yorshkka
This makes the deacons of the deep way more cohesive in the story than what we got in the final product. My theory is that the story was getting way too busy with so many different elements so they boiled it down to the basics and jury rigged things to try and fit in, like Pontiff Sulyvahn becoming an ambitious schemer and root cause of many plot points in DS3, or the whole thing with the Serpent Angels being so subdued, or the Oceiros and the new archdragons being basically scrapped aside from secret sidequest stuff.
I also find it interesting that all the Deacons are locked in the coffin room, it's very nice to imagine the innumerable plots this game could have.
@@abyss1ne17 I thought it was implied that either a god or various firelinkers were in the coffin
The main Deacon is also inside the coffin in the retail version until it actually spawns in the battle, it doesn't necessarily mean Aldrich would have spill out from there but it's still a really cool idea
Thanks for doing these videos! It's always interesting to see early designs of areas
The different door placement of the chapel is interesting.
It makes the semi-hidden path outside to the bottom of the area a lot more useful.
One could go down there and jump into the chapel through the window and get inside earlier if you are attentive.
It's a shame they didn't keep it that way
Fell the same with Yorshka Quest line
Dunno about it being Aldrich or not, but the giant slug monster definitely feels like it could be a missing enemy from DS3. The normal slug monsters are called "Little Slug of the Eclipse." The word "little" implies there'd be a bigger one, otherwise it would just be called "Slug of the Eclipse". That concept art sure looks like a design for a Great Slug of the Eclipse, lol.
But wait, there's more! The Little Slugs have a cut variant called "Little Slug of etc: Mound of Hollows", which can be seen in Lance's cut DS3 enemies video. Will you look at that? It's actually a mass of bodies with the faces staring at you, that looks not all that dissimilar to our concept art here, only on a small scale. Instead of big eyes, it has big yellow pustules, so it's not an exact match, but it still has that nasty bulbous look. It's still called Little Slug, even though once the mound appears, it's actually pretty big, once again, implying there is a bigger, more messed up version of that. I was always confused why it was cut from the game, as it looked really cool and fit in with the other body horror enemy designs in the game.
As I was typing this two more images popped in my head. Remember those grey sacks hanging off of trees in the Farron Keep swamp? Those things clearly look like they're of some importance, like some kind of messed up nests, but in the retail game they're completely static and do nothing. Now looking at the sketch, their shape and texture resembles the sketch image's hanging sack thing in the top right of the image. Could it have been another piece of cut content involving the eclipse slugs?
Now for a complete asspull on my part. I said two images popped into my head. The first was the Farron sacks. The second was the leaked image of the original Dreg Heap with the bleeding sun and a cut monster of huge size staring at you from the distance. Everyone assumed it was "Snake Soul" the fully realised Puss of Man boss. But what if it's not him? I mean, Puss has giant hands for one, yet that dark monster is just a weird torso. And it looks as if it's head is a lot smaller, and its torso thickens unnaturally. Puss is an even tube, like a snape. It doesn't fit.
You showed something that fits a lot better for our mystery clad in black. Looking at that concept art, doesn't he look a lot like the shadowy mosnter from the leak? The lack of limbs, the narrowing head and bloated curved torso. It's an almost exact match! And the sketch shows that the creature is massive in size. The only thing missing are those spikes and some drooping gunk from its mouth. The implications would be horrific, as it would be a mountain of hollows consumed into one monstrous creature. Looping back to Little Slug Mound of Hollows, maybe it got cut because the Great Slug and the slug nests were also cut along with it. The goal seems to have been to turn Little Slug into a relatively normal slug enemy, not a weird abomination made of hollows. A small thing in this idea's favor is this: Even the normal Little Slug enemy had an attack where human arms sprouted from its head, as shown off by Lance in the cut enemy video. But this was also taken out of the normal slug enemy that appears in the game!
My speculation's almost certainly completely wrong, but it is interesting how well this fits with other cut content and enigmas in the game. Imagine if it turned out that shadowy silhouette from the leak was a freaking slug monster all along. Hahaha
I know it's late to say this, but these videos were very insightful bruv. Great job.
Exquisite job as always! Bravo Abyss1ne!
Thank you >...
I just realized next year we'll probably be seeing Elden Ring Alpha diving videos.
What secrets await us then!?
Sekiro doesn't have any, Elden Ring probably won't either, they are cleaning up the games better.
@@abyss1ne17 wow I didn't know sekiro didn't.
Figured people where just busy on dark souls still.
Tho sekiro could be in part do to Activision's involvement.
@@alephnole7009 I think they had enough time to produce in peace, bandai does much more pressure
@@abyss1ne17 aged like milk.
Thank you so, so much for sharing this precious footage of the alpha version of DS3, one of my favorite games ever!
I love you for all your work
this kind of comment really makes my day, i really appreciate it, i hope soon i will have new videos to release
@@abyss1ne17 I'm looking forward to all of your content :) I follow you on Twitter as well
What an amazing findings!
Is there any chance that we'll see more BTTA content from the past DS games in the future?
DS2 was the one part that no one has fully covered in terms of finding an unused maps.
If i have an audience, yes, now that you've commented, it's a great idea.
@@abyss1ne17 Just commenting to add that I would also love to see as much changed/cut content from DS2 as well. Since it was so overhauled mid production, I can imagine there would be a lot of changes around **somewhere**
@@Red-Tower yes there are many things in ds2, but much of it is work of comparison, changed places, I would have to create a documentary to talk about ds2, this is in my plans.
You're doing great research for these, keep it up!
I hope someone like vaati doesnt steal your content or something.
Thanks, there is still a lot to show, next chapter is Irithyll.
@@abyss1ne17 I'm VERY excited. You've well earned yourself the sub, I'm quite the purveyor of DS cut content (and berserk stuff) and i was both impressed and intrigued by how much you managed to cover with such a simple vid.
@@formerlymax I just love berserk, I made a full size Dragon Slayer Sword, you can see it in my Elden Ring react video, I'm making ds3 have a sense of urgency and I will use every inch of berserk to make this story more cohesive. ruclips.net/video/ria2DfJbZH8/видео.html&ab_channel=Abyss1ne
@@abyss1ne17 I'm as excited as you are. Keep up the great work!
Another fantastic video. I had heard from another Souls enthusiast who mentioned Yhorska being in the COTD in the cleansing Chapel, but this was the first time I've seen her in other spots throughout the place!
Question regarding that concept art; is it available to find online to look at? I'd like to look at it in more detail. Or maybe if you could point me in the direction of the company that worked on these concepts?
Thank you and keep up the great work!
Of Course, that is if you are talking about the image of what I think is the Sullivan Prototype (Aldrich)
All of this fascinates me greatly and I'm glad you enjoyed it, should you need any more information, I'm always here if you need me.
www.3dvf.com/actualite-18634-passion-republic-showreel-concept-art-2016-html/
Passion Republic 2016 ShowReel
www.cgmeetup.net/home/concept-art-reel-2016-by-passion-republic/concept-art-reel-2016-by-passion-republic-13/
Img Link
@@abyss1ne17 thank you so much! That's exactly what I was referring to, the Aldrich prototype image. I knew Fromsoftware would outsource some of their art work so that is very cool.
Thanks so much again!
One other caveat, it was there during the development period of the Network test, I really have no way to attest that it was always there, I would need to have a pre early version 2014 to say with 100% certainty, the Network test is full of crazy, internal pressures. Probably it existed in another map.
@@abyss1ne17 the network test which your video series is based on, is that an Alpha Network test build? Which is an earlier version of the game before the Beta Network test before release. Is that correct?
I am trying to get a mental road map of how the concepts, characters, and storyline evolved over the course of development. I've seen other videos and podcasts that have discussed cut/changed content before, but it's been difficult to get an idea of what came before what.
@@davideo7286 What I use as a base is the images from The Know, conversations that I already had with some devs that answered me and most old data that exists in NT and that do not conflict with the images from The Know, if they conflict, I disregard them.
I admit that it is not easy to understand, I myself have been gathering information for 2 years.
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How could one get the gamescon files? I'm hopeful there's dancing Deacons 0:14
I dont know, maybe if my videos get to someone who has them and that person decides to give them to me, I wouldn't even leak the build, the only thing that interests me is getting the map files and putting them in the retail game, it's likely to have more bugs than something working in it.
@@abyss1ne17 hell yeah, hopefully
@@undeadburgler2646 Let's hope.
Based on the info in this video, I'm assuming the Rosaria room boss fight was already cut by the time of the network test. Is it possible that the Man-Grubs labeled for a boss fight were actually supposed to be located there?
O que significa um inimigo dummy? Já vi isso várias vezes mas não entendo muito bem
é tipo o que resta de info pra segurar posição, porque de uma versão pra outra de mapa que eles vao mudando ficam infos do que eles alteraram, antes tinha isso, eles retiraram, mas restou essa posição salva pra inimigo (id)
Do you know what the purpose of the epitaphs is?
Two options for this, either it was a sketch from a certain stage of Lore produced in 2015, or they were actually places where dead pilgrims left a message.
what is this music from?
Which song?
@@abyss1ne17 7:45
@@miguelruiz3078 Dance of Pales - Castlevania Symphony of the Night o/
Please, dude, use old intro. And I have heard something about PvP boss in Rosaria's bedroom.
50002
黒ゴースト（ボス守護者誓約(ロザリア)）
Black Ghost (Boss Guardian Pledge (Rosalia))
50001
White Ghost (Boss Guardian Pledge (Rosaria))
Yeah i found this, but it's basically HalfLight
I only used this intro because by chance I found this video on the internet and liked it a lot, the others will be the previous one XD
@@abyss1ne17 So, if the Demon Prince is a re-used Crimson Bat, Midir is a re-used Mother Dragon, and Halflight is a re-used PVP boss which would have been the purpose of Rosaria's Fingers, is Gael the only boss which didn't exist in some form beforehand in the Ringed City DLC?
@@Indie-anaJones No, he exists, he is literally Knight Hodrick, that crazy spirit invader that appears several times, they just reused him, the same goes for Yorshkka / Fillianore&Yorshkka
@@Indie-anaJones I heard the wolf boss in the Ariendel dlc was also a cut boss from the base game that got repurposed.