STOP Doing This BEFORE You Eat Meat (3 Life Changing Mistakes) - Doctor Reacts
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- Are there things you should STOP doing before you eat meat? 🛑 Could these things be causing you problems and getting in the way of feeling your best on a carnivore or keto diet? 😨 Watch Dr. Westman’s reaction to carnivore influencer “Steak and Butter Gal” warning about things she recommends you stop doing.
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I'm an old Carnivore at 61. Something worth remembering is "Carnivore" is eating meat and drinking water, But it creates a problem for the "Influencers" in that once said it ends the money train so "Eat meat, drink water, sprinkle a little Salt" holds no profit beyond improved health.
The best thing I’ve ever done was TURNING CARNIVORE! Im 53 but I feel like I’m 20!
Same here
Yep. Need to make more content! So... "You're doing carnivore wrong!" Or, "Why I don't eat butter" videos. I stopped watching Bella for the clickbait stuff.
spot on Max
Same here. It's all about financial gain at the moment across the world.
I really enjoy your content Doc. But have to say switching from Keto to Carnivore has been a complete game changer for me. Those last few items that I abuse are now gone (nuts, nut butters), and I do not miss the vegetables. My mild diverticulitis is now gone also. With carnivore I have zero cravings. My carb addiction is under control for the first time in my life.
Yup, me too! No cravings at all. And if I happen to eat carbs, sugar if on occasional events, the cravings come back pretty strong!
Carnivore is a ketogenic diet. It's just a specific form of it that has fewer clinical and scientific studies as of the current time. He regularly says that if it works for you, he doesn't see any reason that it would be a problem and often supports doctors who advocate for carnivore diets. He just tends toward evidence based medicine (a specific philosophy toward clinical recommendations), but does not say that carnivore is a bad idea, merely that it is less examined due to being a newer form of a traditional ketogenic diet.
You are still on a ketogenic diet. Your particular diet consists of a carnivore style. The improvement is likely because you were either having some excess carbs sneak into your diet, or you are especially sensitive to them. You lowered the amount of carbs and saw success, which is what Doctor Westman repeatedly states to do -- he's also very against nuts and nut butters, as he's seen them become an issue with cravings and hidden carbs in his clinical experience. You both agree; no need for the "But" in your second sentence.
I really struggle to cut out the nut butters and dairy. I try not to buy them but, sometimes, the craving just gets too strong.
@FC-PeakVersatility There really is nothing wrong with "dairy", it just depends on the kind. Humans have been using dairy for a bazillion years. Raw milk, pure heavy cream have great fats in them, for example. Some people do not tolerate dairy well.
@@JimWooddell some people cannot tolerate milk at all because they don't have the genetics that would enable them to handle it. Like cows don't eat meat. But that's not the point, in terms of a carnivore, ketovore, even the plain old ordinary low carb keto diet, milk is high in carbs and can actually cause weight gain.
Four years ago, at 58, I went Westman-protocol keto. I noticed differences in just days but a few months later, I was 50 lbs lighter, off all meds, joint-pain free, zero gastric issues.
I’m loving life, thanks so much Dr. Westman!
It’s key to note that S&BG never really had a weight issue. She had many other health issues (mostly inflammation based) which she resolved by going to a strict carnivore diet. So very different from those looking to lose weight. She’s trying to get ALL of her dietary calories from fat, not carbohydrates. I’m not in her specific camp, but it works for her and that’s great. Most of her information, while anecdotal, is generally good.
@wxdave5448 she did lose some weight though when she switched from vegan to carnivore. She definitely was not "fat" by today's standards. But she did lose some weight. But you're right, it was mostly health issues that she was plagued with that it helped heal.
Exactly. I think Westman is very confused by the English language. He equates carnivore to keto. He also calls his diet keto and tells people that ketosis is not a goal of his diet.
I think that's part of the confusion brought by many youtubers. Their perspective is locked in to their on personal "why." Keto and carnivore have been embraced for lots of reasons. For me, I went keto to beat diabetes, and it was "legit" keto, so it was a bit light on protein. It did its job, and I tried carnivore, but ended up high-protein, low-carb. I do like being in light ketosis, though, because I found that keto helped with my chronic pain from degenerative disc disease-to the point where I'm not always in pain anymore. It literally (and I _mean_ literally) changed my life.
Great comment. Thanks!
It works wonders for weight loss as well. Those who need to lose weight have all the other benefits as a bonus.
I cook the bacon, pour in the eggs, fat's absorbed by the eggs.
😉👌 Me too
Me 3 and only if you scramble them the eggs will absorb the fat 😋
Add 1 tablespoon of water per egg increases fluffyness!
@@edwinbickel mom taught me that many years ago! And it works!
Bacon and the grease gives me a stomachache unfortunately 😕. But all other meats are fine. So everyone is different.
To be fair, she's not recommending these to lose weight. More about "how to be a carnivore".
exactly! you cannot lose weight forever, what if you have your ideal weight.
Indeed. Many people struggle to get enough fat inside them through carnivore when they are lean body mass.
Exactly. I think Westman is very confused by the English language. He equates carnivore to keto. He also calls his diet keto and tells people that ketosis is not a goal of his diet.
@@zygzak0953 You change your eating fasting window to suit.
I have to add fat to every meal a d snack on it for my health issues. I don't need to lose weight a d it prevents cravings
I cut out eating all plants in June 2023, and went full carnivore. I completely self cured my T2D. Now, when I fry my eggs, I use 1/3 stick obf butter and pour the entire rendering on top of my eggs. I also add a double pat of butter to my coffee. I have never had, since June 2023, a single instance of nausea or bloating. I have never felt better in my life. When I fry bacon, I take the dripping bacon out of the pan, directly to my plate. I will be 81 in December.
Stopping the water immediately before, during, and immediately after the meal helped me tremendously. It seems obvious now, but it never occurred to me before I saw Bella's video.
Thanks, CarniYiayia, for summarizing an important issue about drinking water!
I noticed that, too. Since listening to my body regarding satiety and needs, I seem to actually feel whether something stands in the way of absorbing the nutients in my food the best possible way.
So how many minutes after the meal can you drink?
@@ninacuk For me, I try not to drink water at least 30 minutes before I eat and try to wait at least 30 minutes after the meal. The bigger the meal, (meaning if it's my only meal of the day) the longer I wait to drink water afterwards. It's helped me tremendously.
Eating cold beef is the only way that works for me. If it’s hot then I get bad diarrhea. Thanks to Bella for pointing this out as I feel so good eating mostly beef. Interesting that no one else ever mentions this. So grateful for this small but life changing information.
Me, too. Since childhood I feel a bit nauseous when food is hot, especially beef and fat. Chilled is delightful to my taste buds and digestive tract
Dr. Westman and Bella are literally in agreement with every one of the points presented. There’s no controversy here. Bella nailed It with her suggestions.
Bella from Poor Things?
Always the voice of reason. Great video Dr. Westman.
The recommendation of not drinking liquids during your meal is an old well known advice among Chinese culture. The water not only fills you up, but also dilutes saliva and stomach acids which impair your digestion. This can lead to indigestion and gas discomfort, and lessen nutrient absorption. Also note in other cultures, ie. the Med. they usually offer an apre-digestive following your meal to drink. Whatever you do, don't drink ice cold liquids with your meal!
Been on carnivore for 2+ years helping my recovery from terrible health problems from 7 years as a vegan. I don't have any of the ill effects of eating my meals with the extra liquid fat, I love it, as it improves each bite of meat. Flavor, texture, mouth feel. No after effects. No ill effects from eating butter either. I believe it may have some relation to how high the heat exposure to the cooking fats, if you are searing a steak, the fats may be burnt, full of bits of oxidized food material and burnt seasonings. ie. garlic, pepper, and these may be irritating the gut. These are carcinogenic.
I pour the cooking fat onto my beef, pork, lamb afterwards, whether from the pan or from drippings in an over/air fryer. If it's not burnt.
Wngimageanddesign: your username says a mouthful, but I want to thank you for your explanation, which makes a lot of sense! I will definitely try it out. If no signs of nausea or reflux, I’ll adopt your approach. Thanks!
Very wise approach.
I was at my fittest and leanest when I was doing the strictest version of Carnivore, including a bulletproof coffee in the morning.
Why did you stop?
@@clayed3311 Life. At that time I was living somewhere I had more control over my food purchases, and social life. Then I wasn't. Now I'm getting back to a mostly carnivore lifestyle again.
I know, me too! I love drinking butter lattes as I call them. I’ve never experienced any problems adding extra butter or fat to my meat. The only time I’ve ever felt sick was eating really fatty chuck roasts.
If I could afford to be on carnivore permanently, I'd still be on it.
@@tbobtbob330 It's not that expensive. I just buy minced beef, liver, occasional sausages and chicken, sometimes salmon. With no processed food and fruit/veg in the basket, my spending is very reasonable.
Westman’s fantastic. It’s great to have his veteran clinical expertise so easily accessible to inform the rest of us who are plugging away at this whole “internet keto” thing.
On keto diet six months, I feel my digestion system has been rebuilt!
High fat carnivore has been so much better for me and has helped hypothyroidism. I have to count calories and macros because I’m always starving and can overeat. I don’t have a “stop eating” signal like others do when they go on keto. I’m always starving - I can eat a pound of ribeye and be starving an hour or two later.
High fat and adding butter helps me a lot more than just plain keto did and I instantly lost a ton more weight. I’m using Dr Elizabeth brights method of high fat carnivore and Dr brownsteins high dose iodine protocol to help with thyroid problems because regular keto didn’t work beyond helping me lose some weight. As soon as I switched to high fat carnivore, I had a ton of improvement with hormones and lost more weight.
If I go below 70% fat I’m starving all the time and constantly binge eating.
How are your blood tests? Btw some comments are being deleted, as expected :))... Anyway, better check yourself before doing it for a long time
@@liviucristianionescu The more you eat in line what we evolvoed on the less you need testing..
@@liviucristianionescu high fat isn't harmful. Wat would they be testing their blood for specifically?
@@louisacapell For some people it could be... You could have a surprise... Maybe a lipid panel? Yeah, I know, cholesterol is not a concern in 2024 for the carnivore diet... Let's just say I'm not of the "lucky" ones that could benefit from this diet, but that's me... Maybe I'm in the 0.1% who knows
@@liviucristianionescu You will never know if you don't try it. Going full carnivore, after a two week to month long adjustment period, for three to six months between blood panels might tell a different tale. Find out which test results are important before you do, however. High cholesterol and ldl are not an issue. Low hdl, bad ldl particle size and trigliceride/hdl ratios are important indicators among a few others. Several doctors on RUclips have videos on the subject.
Re-use fat for cooking is fine but eating pure fat is a bit much for me. But go for it!
Have you watched chargermopar and his uses for tallow? He makes soap with it and uses the older stuff as a solvent to dissolve automotive stains and residue on his hands
did this guy not notice the girl talking has almost NO BODY FAT left? once you're thin like that, you do need to eat extra fat for energy because it has to come from somewhere. especially since most butchers trim the fat off the steaks.
she was even skinnier when she was a vegan. she switched to carnivore due to health problems caused from her lifetime of vegan diet.
@@marknasia5293she was chubby when she was vegan
Yeah, they toss aside valuable FAT so I cut my own steaks. It is easy, I just buy BULK whole 13 - 15 pound chunks of cuts I prefer like RIBEYE or STRIP, it is great! The rendered fat will cause issues if not perfectly fat adapted..after 2.5 years PLANT FREE carnatarian I know this well. I'll never pour rendered fat onto my food...it never set well with me.
There's a difference between eating food with the natural fat and drenching everything fat.
@@danielscarbrough4363 thanks for valuable info, giving me new insight!
I've been on the carnivore (lion) diet for six months. I agree with everything she said.
Me too.
Why does everyone seem to feel the need to validate what they do?
If you follow her, and do the stuff she recommends fine. Dr Westman serves the patient will literally years of experience in practice. He teaches the natural, long lived form of keto, again as he said not the internet version.
No crazy, I eat a stick of butter cold. I eat cold rendered animal fat right out of the fridge, ect.
I thrive on lamb and beef, it just suits me. Fat helps digestion. But everyone is different.
People always just make everything way more complicated than it needs to be.
i just make sure i dont go over 20 carbs a day.
Thats it.
I agree the kiss method works for me "keep it simple stupid"
its not really complicating, its optimizing, nothing wrong with that.
Nothing at all complicated about a carnivore diet. No carbs to count at all. Simple.
I just avoid carbs whenever I see it whenever I can. Not always possible.
@@graveseeker I agree!
I like brustles sprouts and greenbeans and jerkey , so I make sure I stay under 20 grams if I eat them. That's easy.
Thanks, Dr. Westman 🎉
the issues starting carnivore is the liver adjusting to the amount of bile is needed to be produced. this is common even after gall bladder removal for the liver to take time to adjust. with full carnivore the average is about 3 weeks, you get flu like symptoms, then it completely stops. Adding fat to meat isn’t common carnivore. Adding animal fat is part of carnivore. Rendered fat is the liquid cooked fat, that if you eat it on carnivore, you will get diarrhea. She was stating this is a common MISTAKE carnivore dieters make. I made this mistake myself and experienced diarrhea. I am not lactose intolerant so i include dairy in my carnivore diet. I like your channel but Steak and Butter gal is not a good example of a bad example. She is inline with Dr Ken Berry, and many others if you watch her videos in context. KETO’s down side is having to Calculate, on carnivore there is only one calculation 1 gram of protein per kg of body weight. the added butter, dairy fat, animal fat is dependent on how active of a lifestyle someone has. The reduced water intake, this is a habit change as when you reduce the indigestible plant fiber, you do not need to consume as much water not being needed to process the plant matter and being reabsorbed in the large intestine. After 3 weeks you will completely break your carbohydrate addiction, and will find that “sugar addiction” is what has you with uncontrollable hunger. Been doing full Carnivore with added Dairy 8 months now. Lost 30lbs safely and my last annual bloodwork came back excellent. no longer on BP meds, and pain meds. as far as not understanding the rendered heated liquid fat, and cold fat, cold fat prevents diarrhea, you can allow the rendered fat to cool then eat it but doesn’t make since as the rest of your meal (the meat) will also be cold, butter is a more convenient option as it is normally kept cold and can be consumed with your warm meal. i experienced diarrhea and almost stopped carnivore until i saw Steak and Butter Gal’s video about this. KETO is great if you have a tool to measure if you are in Ketosis, on carnivore you don’t have to measure. Most carnivore channels, the good one’s recommended to customize the carnivore diet to include increasing some carbs if you have an active lifestyle. I also like your channel btw. Both your channel and Steak and Butter Gal’s channel has helped me life a much healthier life. I can fit into my blue jeans from high school at 51.
Paragraphs are free, you know.
I'm carnivore for 7 months and loving it. But I don't eat nearly as much fat as some of these influencers claim you need to. By the gram I think I'm like 55% fat 45% protein something like that, maybe 60/40 tops.
I've had a life-changing improvements in my physical and mental health!
Wow thanks for sharing.. did you see results even on the first month?
Most carnivores don't really tell people how much to eat , they tell you to start with 40% fat and see how you feel ... most carnivores I personally watch only eat 60% fat
I keep a diet diary, i find it helpful. Sometimes i go back to the previous day if i feel something is off.
I am sick of internet keto (and carnivore) after watching these spaces for 7 years. Do not drink water before meals, do not eat plants (they are out to kill you), consume a diet consiating of 80% fat, and it goes on and on... I recently started gaining weight back and my blood glucose was climbing upwards (type 2 diabetic off meds for several years). I went back to simple keto - but first printed out phase 1 of your book (again), and wow! I feel 100% better. Hoping that everything else follows suit.
I agree! This video makes so much more sense.
Plants are out to kill you?
I wonder how many doctors use the expression "plants are out to kill you" ... hmm
Agree! I’m t1 d and that changes the ballgame here bc there’s NO hard and fast rules that always work (other than the basics of no sugar, processed food etc).
👍🏿awesome
It can get frustrating to hear some many different suggestions, but in the end no idea should be silenced, we are learning as we go. Don’t blindly follow suggestions immediately, take it in assess and try if it makes sense to you. I found my issue of having to mind how close I drink to my meals was solved by cutting down the size of my meal. I used to eat OMAD out of preference, only one problem, my digestive tract didn’t agree. Now I break up my meal into three meals. My body is thrilled with my decision, no more issues digesting my food.
I agree with you. We can listen to all points of view then do what works best for us.
I increased meat but for months I was getting leg cramps at night.. I added green beans, Greek yogurt and a few low carb fruit… a few walnuts.. I have not had leg cramps for a few days.. I like Dr Saladino’s changes since I exercise a lot…
Nice reminder, thank you for featuring Steak and Butter Girl.According to her previous explanations in other videos, she did the additional pure butter and fat because she was very depleated, coming out of a restrictive vegan diet. I heard from anorectic women who overcame their condition eating high fat carnivore that they, too, had a longer priming phase, just replenishing what their body had missed for so long.
When I initially started carnivore. I would often get soft stools usually around a 6 on bowel movement charts.
Increasing Salt intake would usually settle my stomach.
I make bone broth and keep the tallow for cooking, I don't use this as a "gravy" and I throw it away.
The one thing that used to guarantee diarrhoea - again I only did this at the start was MCT oil. My bowel movement would be a 7 on a chart (which is entirely liquid), would often start within 1 hour after consuming MCT oil.
I only drink water/tea/coffee when I'm thirsty, total of cups of fluid vary from day to day anywhere from 4 Up to 12 cups. Depending on weather (I live in a hot humid tropical climate). Sport etc.
I'm never thirsty after eating a steak or bone broth etc.
Steak Gal mistakes 1. Liquid fat might bother your stomach (so make scrambled eggs in the liquid fat) 2. Don't drink during meal time 3. Don't measure portions of meat.
Dr. Westman, thanks for your measured, practical suggestions. Your method of breaking down someone’s speech into segments, for analysis, is terrific. I enjoy viewing your content & will continue to subscribe to your low key style, informative broadcasts/podcasts.
As a new to low carb / carnivore life style, I do appreciate all the information.
I've been doing ketovore/carnivore way of eating 2.5 years. I've lost nearly 90 lbs without ever counting calories. I eat twice per day and stop eating at least 4 hours before bed. If I'm very thirsty & drink a lot of water, I add a little apple cider vinegar or lemon juice to the water to avoid the heartburn from drinking a large amount of water.
I see the point of using the body's fat stores for energy if weight loss is the goal, which it isn't always the case, but, as a case study where n=1, I eat my desired body weight (160 lbs) in grams of protein (160 gr.) and a like or greater quantity of fat per day. I lost 90 pounds in less than six months. I'm having trouble squaring those two circles unless the amount of fat I consume is less than that required for energy. I'm also trying to figure out the need for poisonous plant consumption when animal meat/fat provides everything necessary (I have never heard of a carnivore who has suffered from scurvy or other deficiency issue). What am I missing?
Type carnivore diet into Google and scurvy will be one of the top search results… absolutely no evidence but it tells you something about how Google and mainstream are trying to control us
No response...disappointing. 😮💨
I wonder if eating 'some' plants that contain toxins and carcinogens and, increasingly, mutagens might provide some level of protection and strengthening of the immune system? Thoughts?
Not missing anything, people don't want to commit to it due to their crippling addictions and try to find excuses, whoever says these things love adding fuel to the fire, because a true carnivore will not buy anything else other than pure raw meat, eggs(maybe not) and fats, so unlike the "internet keto" people can't sell any products, this is the equivalent weapon against it
@@graveseeker my take on this is anything that causes inflammation or damage will require the body to prioritize healing against it, thus hoarding resources that could be instead used for something else more important, rendering the body weaker against non-deliberate damage. Then again, the body may be able to eliminate those toxins out pretty quickly, but some of them get stored in the body fat or tissues, don't know if that's true 100%, but as a previously obese guy, my goal had always been the combination of optimising autophagy, reducing/eliminating fat-storing, getting more nutrients and saving money, thus making knowledge about plant toxins irrelevant, because I would already eliminate them
Thanks Dr for your professional information,!
Extra fat is supposed to be good for hormonal health for women. I sleep much better since I raised my fat intake on ketovore.
I have the same experience.
One day of keto I weighed in 7 pounds lighter. I got up twice during the night to pee.
I had done keto before with great success but went off. Since then I’ve struggled to get back on track.
Today I’m going to succeed again. It’s the only thing that works for me.
I hope you do.
Don't give up.
Good luck!
Thank you so much Dr Westman ... really value the information you bring to us, plus the way you do this. Lovely, humble way about you. Thank you.
I went carnivore after starting on Keto, mainly because it was easier. If I have a fatty cut of meat I don't usually add butter. But if I have leaner cut (I raised my own steer and then bought half a steer), I will add butter because I don't tolerate (hard to swallow) lean meat very well. I either need a gravy or butter added to it. I may add some Keto elements down the road, but will not be going back to grains. Learned the hard way it wouldn't be a good idea.
Carnivore is keto… I found it much easier too.
You’ve probably seen this before, adding raw egg yolks to your meat as a sauce. I’ve just started doing this myself and I really like it.
@@tezzanewton Thanks for the idea.
97%lean grass fed ground beef from New Zealand is tasteless and chews like ground rubber bands. Cheap 70/30 is moist and flavorful. Just my experience
@@ultmiddle4991 it’s because it’s 97% lean…
Thanks Dr. Westman!
Thank you! I was plant-based for five years. All of a sudden had a acid reflex problem. I cut out the alcohol & caffeine and it healed. Then I switched to carnivore and the acid reflux came back with a fury. I just recently started considering going keto because my thought was what if some plants actually helped the acid? What you’re saying here makes total sense to me.
How long have you been carnivore? 'Ketoflu' is a real thing.
None will help. It’s just your body is adapted to plants little more at the moment because of all the plant eating in the past. Plants are neither evolved to be your foods nor evolved to help you in any way.
That reflux is probably a result of oxalate dumping. Check out Sally K Norton for tips on how to gradually ease into carnivore without the pains and aches of oxalate dumping.
Could be low stomach acid. Try apple cider vinegar (no need for actual plants) diluted in lots of water, of course. Or betaine hcl.
@@dennisward43This is what I had to do, but only in the beginning of my journey on Carnivore. My stomach learned to sort things out over a few weeks, thankfully. Previously a Blood Type Diet adherant and supposed to be low stomach acid producer according to my blood type. Formerly plant based as well.
I am so glad I came across your channel sir...great info. We are neighbors..I am in the Raleigh area...I am excited about the fact based content you are providing. Thank you
I have no choice. I have a swallowing issue that requires me to drink water while eating meat, or face the possibility of it getting stuck in my esophagus (scarred from GERD after decades of a S.A.D.), and sending me to emergency. That's the problem with blanket statements - they don't consider individual requirements.
It's suggestions not obligations
Ofc not these two are talking about very specific diets for specific situations.
While oil and water doesn't mix well, I have the same issue. Instead of water, I use sour cream, cream cheese, butter or some kind of animal fat which soothes the food down like a sled in the snow
I'm one week in...7 days exact. 3 inches off my waist thats what I needed that tells me inflammation already leaving.🎉🙌🏽
I used to follow steak and butter gal, but realized pretty quickly. She is just not my cup of tea.
Love all the Great information that you give on each and everyone of your segments 👍🏻
Yup, Me TOO.!!!
@@aliceelborjo7074 she is very annoying!
Very very annoying
@@johnwoke2452I suggest you change your comment to very annoying “to me”. To many other people she is lovely.
I was keto for year and half, now carnivore for 4 months. The benefits on keto are supercharged for me on carnivore and I have zero reason to go back to plants.
But keto is the way to go starting out imo, I don't know how people go straight carnivore. Maybe if they are younger and healthier it works easier.
I don't get the whole cold fat argument, that's nonsense 😂
The cold fat issue, I have not watched a video yet watching it now, but I am a truck driver and most of my meals are eating cold by hand in the dark. And eating a steak cooked eight hours earlier… Is no fun I think carnivore is easier when the food is fresh, but the grease… Hard grease from the meat I eat makes my stomach hurt so I have to clean the meat really clean before I start eating it or I regret it🤣
I agree that it sounds like nonsense but the stomach isn't lying when it gets upset. No question there is an adaptation period when going to a high fat diet.
Did you have any benefits from 0 carbohydrate carnivore ..❓️
@@jamescalifornia2964 You weren't talking to me, James, but I'll give you my experiences. There was some positive, some neutral but nothing, so far, negative. I lost 90 pounds in a bit under six months. My Rosacea which has plagued me (facial) since my high schools days cleared completely. My thinning hair, growing friar's cap and receding hairline has reversed and my hair color is no longer seriously white around the fringes. my inflammatory markers, etc. are significantly reduced. On the neutral side, my lypomas (fat globules just under the skin) have not improved, the peripheral neuropathy in my toes has not improved nor have my arthritic knees gotten any less painful. The diet isn't a cure-all. Many other people do report improvement with those and many other issues notably diabetes, Chron's, IBS, allergies, etc.
This is a diet that cannot harm you in the short term (and we don't think in the long term). Document your current issues both in writing and via photos, get a baseline blood panel run, go on the diet for three to six months and then check for results including bloodwork changes.
As to carbs, if you have allergies or significant inflammation, get rid of all of them. Zero carbs. If things clear up, you can add carbs back in, one dish at a time looking for a recurrence of your symptoms. Still, try to keep carbs less than 20 grams or so a day to continue to reap the rewards.
@@jamescalifornia2964 Yep, like keto but better, whole nother level. Keto dropped my workout soreness in half, on carnivore no soreness. Don't get sunburn, or at least have no idea when I do sunburn. Spent twice the time that usually burns but nothing. Like superhuman stuff, very weird 😆
I feel better doing a little more keto. ( a small mixed salad or steamed cruciferous something). Mainly meat though. I ALSO DO BETTER taking a couple of HCI capsules with my meal. I’m blood type AB + and apparently make less stomach acid than O blood types. Btw. This is my absolute favorite keto/carnivore podcast !! Thank you Dr Eric
Hi doc! First time I have watched this girl and I think she is pretty good. I know your the expert in this but it think you need to forget about this calorie stuff that obviously is still handing around a little from your doctor training. I'm 70 and have been of keto for about 4 years. I have lost 110 pound and my health is amazingly better with a perfect blood test. I eat ALL of the fat that I have a taste for which usually includes about a half a stick to a stick of butter a day and all of the fat that comes with the meat. I love butter. I use to be constipated all the time now the fat come OUT OF ME. If it is coming out of me it is NOT being used for weight gain. Stop depriving your patients from the one GREAT thing about the keto diet. I don't believe it necessary.
I'm not going to lie Dr., you look younger and healthier in your newer videos. Glad to see it!
This doctor is greatest ❤
I added the butter to my coffee to transition to drinking it black. Now I love black plain coffee
Same, plain coffee. I've have tried adding honey 🍯, I heard pure honey is way better than sugar. Plain is actually not bad though for sure.
@@jasonhawn1908 if you believe honey is any different or better than sugar, explain how it's different or better rather than just citing such bold claims
@@dimseablue136 just Google raw honey 🍯 it says it retains more vitamins and nutrients..
@@dimseablue136 just Google raw honey 🍯 health benefits..
Its interesting. I was low carb in the late 70s using Atkins book. Then after losing weight went off the diet. I know, dumb. Decades later I was severely overweight and ill, i went low carb, started reading medical/nutritional studies, following various influencers in the nutrition field and migrated to keto. But I had problems with oxalates, and kidney stones. Finally went carnivore. This has been nearly a decade in the evolution. My personal experience has been a mix of what Dr Westman is saying, but also some of what Bella is saying. If i want to drive to therapeutic ketosis I have to lower protein by stopping before satiated, and fill in with fats be it butter, mct, or other. If I don't then gluconeogenesis will drive my blood glucose too high and I will not see ketosis at all, and will maintain high blood sugar which I do not want to do since high BG on carnivore is, in my opinion still damaging to your body even though there are some out there that think high BG on carnivore is somehow not damaging.
Bella's video is very helpful. I experienced exactly what she said.
I take heavy cream with my coffee or organic coconut cream with my coffee (very tasty), can't stand butter.
I adopt the following
BBBE (butter, beef, bacon, egg) my main source of food
Cabbage, broccoli and baby sprout are the only veg i take as the 10% plant carbo.
I apply 24-28 hours of fasting. Twice a week.
I will let myself eat whatever I want just 1 meal in a week.
Zero sugar and i take water with sea salt 2. L per day.
My life is much more simple following this routine.
I greatly enjoy your videos. I love how you softly say that she is full of poo in some of the things she claimss. You are such a diplomat. I wish that Prof. Bart would take lessons from you. You break everything down into simple English and your diplomatic repudiation of other influencers theories are top-notch.
I turned to low carbohydrate diet because my fasting blood glucose was 121. I was already at normal body size and weight for my height. I began to lose weight and did not want to, so I started added more meals and more fat to my diet to maintain weight. If you look closely at "Steak and Butter Gal", she is a small, thin person, so I am guessing she had to do the same as me. I have been low carb since Jan 1, and will have my annual 'wellness' check up in a couple of months to see if my fasting blood glucose has come down.
My non-fasting blood glucose is now 103 and my hemoglobin A1c has dropped from 5.7 to 5.3. I am on the right track.
Hi from Connecticut 🙏 Thank you for your video ❤❤
Hot tip here: Find the influencer who overcame YOUR particular issue. Not meander around trying to sort them all out.
I remember mom serving us black tea with breakfast. My siblings would drink the sweetened tea while eating. Mom would constantly tell me to drink my tea which I refused and only drank a few sips after the meal.
Doc, you are not listening to the young lady. She is suggesting it's the rendered fat causing the diarrhea. She's talking about people who pour the liquid fat over their steak.
Keto is a gateway to carnivore. For some keto is hard to sustain because the vegetables can cause cravings or actual health issues.
The vegetables can help control oxylate dumping. But aside for that they have no value. Except as a garnish.
Now you got me upset. You are still block headed doc. It's true some people can occasionally add too much fat. But don't tell people to restrict fat calories to lose weight. Weight loss should never be your goal. 5:05 And often people need to add fat to their diet. Especially women. Especially women trying to lose weight. Often their calorie intake is way too low. From years of dieting.
Why should weight loss never be your goal?
@@DianeRuotsalainen-ne8cr A better question is why should weight loss be your goal? But to answer your question, dieting to lose weight is bad for your health. Especially if you're a woman. Because nowadays a woman can never be thin enough. If you're a man you don't need to lose weight. Like I said health should be your goal. Your weight has nothing to do with your health. Obesity has no symptoms. Keto and carnivore are not weight loss diets. They have been known to cure anorexia.
Yeah. He takes a generic approach to keto. It no doubt works but there are a lot of us who are so damaged metabolically and hormonal.
Came here to say a similar thing, and as much as I enjoy Dr. Westman--he's not getting that for some of us, adding green veg is not the solution since veg is what is not helping us and in many cases, harming or hurting us, which is the reason many of us go to carnivore in the first place. I grew up on veg but they do me no favors. I would love to basically eat lots of broccoli and lettuce but they really bloat me and leave me hungry.
@beejereeno2 I think Dr Walter Voegltin perfectly summarises this in his book, 'The Stone Age Diet', wherein he points out that fermentative bacteria in the colon thrive on undigested carbohydrate and convert that to CO2 and acetic acid, irritating and causing inflammation of the colon and thus increasing bowel motions. Of course, there's the point about antinutrients, which is well-explored, but I think another perspective is useful for putting the whole picture together.
As a strictly carnivore, I eat or drink no plants. I have no issues. I do pour the grease out of the skillet on my leaf. That way I don’t get constipated. I’m living in the Philippines presently good fat meat. My ribeye is hard to come by or maybe I should say expensive. So I’m eating ground meat, beef lamb, cooking butter if I don’t pour the fat back on it, it constipates me.
Hello from Canada.
Thank you. I am llstening and taking it to heart.
Thank you for sharing this information😊
When using butter in coffee, use a hand mixer and the coffee will taste much better.
Also, i found out that by not drinking water while eating.... to just wait about 2 hrs after a meal, i no longer feel tired and sleepy after a meal. I have much more energy.
Your the first. I have a beer belly from wrong eating and little exercise, 20+ pounds to loose, my thought, lean meat, puts me into autophagy with OMAD, try IF to 48+ hours. 🎉🎉🎉
When I first started my electrolytes were so unbalanced my tongue would stick to the roof of my mouth.
I exercise a lot… I need a lot of water… I had a few days of feeling tired.. I reflected back that I hardly drank water the last few days.. I stated the day with 2 1/2 cups of water the next morning and I had better energy… so I start my day with lots of water and drink another 3-4 cups of water all day and my energy levels are better…
Before I started Keto 3 years ago I was told I had diverticulitis after a colonoscopy. It's a pain I wouldn't wish on anyone. Though completely contrary to doctor's advice, since being on Keto I've had no diverticulitis pain.
Doctors have no answers just pills to make things worse while they get paid to make you worse. I’d strongly suggest ridding your diet of all fiber. No greens. No nuts. You’ll heal in no time and perhaps you can eventually add them back if you want to feel worse again.
I had some episodes of bad stomach pain, cramping fever...my doctor thought it was IBS..... I told him I thought it was diverticulitis....had an ultrasound and that confirmed diverticulitis. One episode was so bad (as you know) I couldn't describe the pain. The crazy thing is they say it's caused by a low fibre diet......but I was eating a very high fibre diet.....then when you get it it they say too much fibre is bad and to eat a low fibre diet.......went los carb bordering on carnivore and never had another problem with it......
She is very good I follow her and has some good recipes. I will also be following Dr. Westman.
To be fair Dr Westman .. you are a practitioner of internet keto just the same as others . No one has the total answer , she may have insights to offer .
Before speaking out, please do a little research. Dr. Westman was prescribing Keto to his patients LONG before it became a thing on the internet. All he is doing here now is adding information from his many years of experience so people don't make dumb mistakes that come from some influencers.
@@carnivore_scalper I’m very well of the history and just who Dr Westman is and also admire his content .. my comment still stands ..
Exactly. I think Westman is very confused by the English language. He equates carnivore to keto. He also calls his diet keto and tells people that ketosis is not a goal of his diet.
Consuming cold butter is brought to body temperature, not room temperature.
Otherwise the "fat clogging the arteries" claim would be correct
My wife of Southeast Asian decent strongly is opposed to drinking water with meals. As far as hot or cold fat just go with what works for your body. I can eat it anyway hot, cold with or without water or a. Lot of water. The only this my stomach doesn’t agree with is a straight quantity of butter when I near that 1/4 stick amount.
In the end is always do what fit you best.
Around water, as many other things, there is always a back and forth, for me make no sense,just drink when you feel the necessity and for the ammount that you need,instead of overcomplicate things.
It happens in every sector, including gymnastics, just feel your own body,instead of follow opposite reccomendations.
Anyway the real problem is never be exposed at multiple approach but to be exposed at only the official approach, just because most people don't want to think, so they like take away any possible options, for the rest, with the usual excuse of a supposed certain safety from the ufficial expert.
Did ketogenic diet since May 2014 to January 2024. I enjoyed many benefits but quit losing weight and the rheumatoid arthritis returned.
Now carnivore for the past 9 months and my joint pain has receded since eliminating all plant derived food, particularly my morning joe 😞
After I reach my desired weight, I may reintroduce one new plant derived food at a time to test my response and eventually broaden my dietary scope. I am thinking of Eskimo Pies, first. 🙂
Concerning LMNT: 😊I just make my own using their quantities.
I have elevated RBC so I must drink water. 8 glasses is not enough. I do 12. The more I drink the more I want to drink.
Bitter food also promotes more bile production.
Thank You Dr Westman ❤
I’m having much better success this time but keeping just a few greens in some meals. I’ve cut out cheese/dairy and nuts which previously I had been adding. Without the green (not loads and not every meal) I don’t get the gastric issues
There is such a thing as common sense!!
Is that common sense saying that?
The direct source of my energy is my fat storage.
Total carnivore here at 64. I do not miss vegetables and fruits at all and feel the best I have felt in my whole life. I tend to go more towards steak and butter gal and feel she has a lot of really good pointers! The liquid fat thing is something I had never heard, but it is totally right on. I also have learned to go with what I crave. If the juice from a steak smells and looks appealing, I will pour it over the meat. Honestly, I find that anecdotal stuff on this subject is way more helpful than all of the medical mumbo jumbo. And....I am in the medical field!
If I just go by my body intuition I don’t get enough protein and later don’t feel good or start craving carbs . So I do have to track my meals. It doesn’t give me any kind of anxiety, actually the opposite since I know I’m meeting my needs.
If you "crave carbs" that's something to do with dopmaine in the brain, not the body asking for nourishment
You mention that you learned under Atkins, etc. Keep in mind that there wasn’t much clinical data for them to go on, they had to experiment to create data to learn from. I understand and respect the reticence to jump to conclusions but I just remind you that if Atkins had decided not to explore what eventually became the Atkins diet because he felt there wasn’t sufficient clinical evidence at that time, you wouldn’t have learned anything from him. I started eating butter (by itself) in the mornings due to videos by Dr. Elizabeth Bright, again being open to experimentation. The one notable effect is that it drops my blood sugar significantly. I’m one of those keto/low carb people whose A1C was rising, and though my CGM showed extremely flat lines, I constantly had numbers like 122, 115, and my A1C had got to 6.0 despite eating almost no carbs. “You were cheating!” No I wasn’t. Eating a couple squares of butter, about 20 minutes later I’d see the glucose drop 20-30 points and STAY down for at least a couple of hours. At last measurement (I’d only been using the butter for 6 weeks prior to the test) A1C was 5.7. I’m looking forward to my next test in about six months, hoping the trend continues. Because it has worked for me so far doesn’t make it a universal truth and more data is needed of course, but beware of the “I haven’t gone there before so I can’t go there” anti-exploratory stagnation which is one of the reasons medicine has been stuck for so long.
Dr Westman, I'm 70 years old, been keto carnivore for over three years, following most of your suggestions. Used to weigh 232 at 5'10" now weigh 151 and feel better than ever. Waist changed from 40" to 34". Most of my issues of Gerd, painful joints gas, bloating eczema, are just absolutely gone. Where are your thoughts on this new theory put forth about cruciferous vegetables blocking our ability to assimilate adequate Iodine from our foods, do you think we are iodine deficient here in the US. Theory put forth that in Japan they get as much as 15mg of iodine from there daily diet compared to our recommended 150 mcg.
My BS meter seems to go off when I watch her videos, unlike when I watch Shawn Baker's. There's a lot of dogma on her channel, and in much of the low-carb world. I like how you review these videos.
I'm "high-protein," low-carb, making me "not really keto" and "not really carnivore." I was keto for about three years, and beat diabetes. I tried carnivore, but I like my non-starchy veg, and I feel I benefit from it.
I never felt the need to go crazy with oils and butter, but I confess to liking a splash of olive oil on vegetables. As a rule, I like to eat the fat with the meat it comes with, and eating whole fat dairy (but not a lot of it.) I do cook my meats sous vide and pour the jus on it, considering that a win.
Eating my 73/27 ground meat cold definitely ended quick trips to the bathroom.
I think these items are very personal for her and should not be presented as a general advice. Liquid or solid fat becomes the same once ingested and most carnivores certainly eat the fat that comes with the meat. Drinking lots of water during and right after meals is a bad idea, before is not a big problem. The water will leave the stomach quickly. I always thought this to be common knowledge. At the end she becomes really irritating. Tell the viewers that they don't have to count calories, just eat till full, and leave it there. This is a personal decision, what is right for one person, may not be right for another person.
The body is able to regulate its own appetite naturally when you're not eating addictive high carb/high sugar foods and having a proper nutritious human diet. Look for "why do I crave mustard?" (I had that) "why do I crave ..." in general, when referring to any specific food other than meat, the consensus may be "a nutritional deficiency", these things just don't happen to a carnivore, 1.5 month in, I only get "hungry" I can't eat too much meat, I get full easily, my tastebuds won't just say "it's tastes too good to stop", that's just not a natural response
The concept of food "calories" didn't even appear until somewhere in mid-19th century, I don't think people had problems back then, people definitely ate instinctually, when food is so addictive nowadays no wonder people count calories, you lose track easily
In response to the commenter, Sorry but steak and butter gal is correct. Once you’re adapted to meat eating you let your own body regulate its energy needs. You can’t do that with vegetables and donuts because the body never gets satiated from them, just full up with digestive work. Water is a matter of choice, some people need to drink while eating in order to swallow, others get a tummy upset if they drink too much around meal times. Our bodies use water or pass it through depending on whether we need it or not. Everyone’s different. Water isn’t a digestible material, it’s ignored by our digestive juices so it cannot “water down’ our system. As for fats, liquid fats make some people nauseous and they do better with solid fats like cold butter. Everyone can benefit from the fat natural to the meat, however, it’s neither solid nor runny when meat is cooked, it’s Goldilocks perfect.
What she said does match my personal experience, except the cold fat part. I have not experimented with cold fat. No opinion on that. Eating too much fat does give me nausea and diarrhea. To Dr. Westman's credit, adding more fiber (veggie) does help. My guess (non-scientific) is that the extra fiber slows down the food movement through the intestine and allows more time for the intestine to re-absorb bile. This problem does go away over time.
Not everyone can do fiber/plant materials without issues, which is why many turn to carnivore after doing keto awhile.
Carnivore now for almost four years and I remember the first three months or so I had a lot of these side affects but they just stopped one day and never returned including some sensitivity to eggs and pork I drink a lot of water no issues as far as I can tell
I am finding your channel very helpful, ThankYou 🙏
15:21 A good way to listen to your body is to eat slowly. Chew each bite thoroughly, at least 30 chews (count chews in the first few weeks, after that you will do it automatically without counting). Do not take the next bite until your mouth has been emptied
I eat mainly 250g of ground beef, I make patties out of it, and after cooking them I pour over the rendered fat in the pan. I do this so I still end up eating the whole measure of ground beef, fat and all. Sometimes I stir fry cabbage and eat that along with the patties. I'm an ischemic stroke survivor BTW. No meds now on the way to full recovery. Walking 2 hours every day, lifting weights every other day.
Steak and Butter Gal is far from being low-cal in what she eats. The last time I checked I was shocked at just how much she eats !
I noticed many items in the refrigerator were not covered. Butter, tallow etc. I refuse to allow anything other than red meat uncovered in this refrigerator.
I did keto before carnivore and NO every stomach issue does not go away.
I had diarrhea on keto, it’s way better on carnivore.
Likely needed a no fiber diet like many people with digestive ailments from eating silly amounts of fiber like the dumb docs tell us. Malpractice.
I know on keto, hunger goes away, but for me the cravings have not gone away, so even though I don't track, I do eat more often then I should. I am pretty sure I am getting more calories than I need. I think stress is a big factor in this as well as years of eating the SAD and using food to replace cigarettes. I don't eat processed junk food, but occasionally I do have a keto chocolate, and each day I do eat in the morning, in the mid afternoon and a dinner meal. I usually stop eating by 7 pm and don't eat again until about 10 am. After taking a round of meloxicam for a shoulder pain, I started gaining weight again after losing a bit and since then I haven't been able to lose any more weight. Ugh.
I loved the Adkins cinnamon and apple snack bars. I wasn't even watching my diet then, those bars were just delicious. Wish they were still around.
I remember those! Why aren’t they around?
Quest bars work in a pinch or as an occasional treat. My body doesn’t love the chocolate though - lots of oxylates in cocoa.
They sure do taste amazing though. $2 a bar they ought to. Ingredients aren’t bad like atkins bars. Atkins brand is garbage. Dr. Atkins was a pioneer. A genius among special needs doctors.
@@LadyBirch They quit making them for some reason.
@@BeefNEggs057 I'm not a big fan of chocolate myself.
I have been carnivore for 16 months and I don’t miss vegetables. I don’t like vegetables and never have. I alway felt like I had to force myself to eat them drowning in all kinds of dressing.