Thank you very much. Was looking for how the loan was calculated and only getting the formula everywhere. But your explanation clears it out. Thank you!
What a wonderful and thoughtful explanation. You not only gave the superficial meaning but the contextual meaning by doing the heavy lifting of proving the geometry series. Super thankful.
You sir, are awesome! This is the BEST explanation I have come across! I don't know if its because loan sellers don't want to be super clear or if they just lack the math background, but I hadn't found any of their explanations to make sense. This made it crystal clear, and I feel so much safer knowing what I'm getting myself into!
I cannot give the amount of likes that I want. This video made my night after a whole day looking for explanations on how to calculate this and also how to make the table for each month. Awesome video and keep up the good work, thank you!
Love your videos! Just FYI, the dollar sign goes in front of a dollar amount e.g., $100.45 or $1M for one million dollars. The lesser used cent sign “¢” would go after the number and would be omitted in the presence of a dollar sign e.g., 99¢. Thanks for all you do!
Very nice -- a couple of nuances. The compounding period can vary. In your example interest is compounded monthly. In Canada mortgagee rates are compounded semi annually so the monthly interest rate is (1+r/2)^(2/12). Often banks actually calculate a daily interest rate. For semi annual compounding the daily rate for non leap years is (1+r/2)^(2/365) and for leap years (1+r/2)^(2/366). This allows for calculating weekly and biweekly repayments. For monthly payments the amount of interest that is applied to the principle will vary depending on the length of the month. Lastly the financial literacy of sales people and loan managers is abysmal -- just ask any of them to explain how the loan is amortized or challenge them to produce a spreadsheet that provides an amortization schedule. Come on this is high school math -- no calculus involved.
Isn't dividing the annual interest rate by 12 to get the monthly rate an approximation? Going up 12% a year is not the same as going up 1% a month. Anyone can easily see this by just inputting it into a calculator if they don't believe me. (1+.12)^1 = 1.12 =/= (1+.01)^12 = 1.1268... I know this is how most calculators work still but I wonder why this approximation is always used?
I noticed this too... I guess its just because of the en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_value_of_money If you pay your loan in the end of the year in one payment, you will have to pay more, as all the payment will be in the future, thus it cost will be more than if you paid small sum every day or every month. You are still paying bulk of the loan in the future, but few payments in first month worth much more than those in the end, so the end interest sum is lower in this case, although the "annual" interest stays the same!
The assumption r=R/12 is never used in the actual derivation so the formula still stands. And you are right, r would be the monthly interest rate that translates to the R annual rate. i.e (1+r)^12 = R.
Thanks for the derivation. But...... And this may sound like something a flat earther would ask, but it seems like interest gets figured in twice. To get the Current Payment, you take the Prevous Balance, subtract the previous payment, and add the interest paid on the previous balance. But the interest was already figured in the monthly payment. I'm just a little confused.
This video explains it better: ruclips.net/video/rtIBGhbSeBY/видео.html&ab_channel=DrBobMaths%28OnlineMathsTuition%29 Essentially the first month when you obtain the loan, you do not make any payment. The interest for the first month accrues at the end of the first month, regardless if you make the payment either at the end of the first month or the beginning of the second month. So, at the end of the first month interest was only factored in for the first month. At the end of the second month, interest was only factored in for the balance minus the first constant payment. One can argue that the constant monthly payment M already contains the interest Pnr. But at least for the first month the interest of P0r is correct. Maybe some math genius can derive a more logical formula that can save us all some interest payment.
Taking python class, already built a calculator for amortization total interest paid, but no wanted to bulid one that took into account extra principal payments and I was looking for that formula.
So he could eliminate all the internal terms of (1+r)^n. If I have 1 + A + A*A + A*A*A + A^4 + A^5, I can multiply and divide by A - 1 to get (A^6 - 1) / (A - 1), or why he subtracted equation (2) from equation (1)
Thank you very much. Was looking for how the loan was calculated and only getting the formula everywhere. But your explanation clears it out. Thank you!
Thank you very much. Was looking for how the loan was calculated and only getting the formula everywhere. But your explanation clears it out. Thank you!
What a wonderful and thoughtful explanation. You not only gave the superficial meaning but the contextual meaning by doing the heavy lifting of proving the geometry series. Super thankful.
Thanks for the comment. I appreciate it.
You sir, are awesome! This is the BEST explanation I have come across! I don't know if its because loan sellers don't want to be super clear or if they just lack the math background, but I hadn't found any of their explanations to make sense. This made it crystal clear, and I feel so much safer knowing what I'm getting myself into!
I cannot give the amount of likes that I want. This video made my night after a whole day looking for explanations on how to calculate this and also how to make the table for each month. Awesome video and keep up the good work, thank you!
Thanks for the support!
I've been looking for how this formula is determined all over the internet, and finally here it is!! Thanks for the amazing explanation.
Thank you. Very clear and useful! I wish more tutorials on the Internet were like this one!
I’m determined to understand this fully - it’s going to take more than one watch 😅 Thank you for your work
It probably took me 4-5 times
Love your videos! Just FYI, the dollar sign goes in front of a dollar amount e.g., $100.45 or $1M for one million dollars. The lesser used cent sign “¢” would go after the number and would be omitted in the presence of a dollar sign e.g., 99¢. Thanks for all you do!
Sir, you are a treasure for our society!
Great video. Clear explanation and Python demonstration on this prolonged question I have in mind. Thanks for that!
This makes so much sense. Excellent for us Mathematically oriented people.
Thanks for watching.
I’m determined to understand this fully - it’s going to take more than one watch 😅 Thank you for your workI
just one line for the video: AMAZING EXPLANATION!
Thank you
Very nice -- a couple of nuances. The compounding period can vary. In your example interest is compounded monthly. In Canada mortgagee rates are compounded semi annually so the monthly interest rate is (1+r/2)^(2/12). Often banks actually calculate a daily interest rate. For semi annual compounding the daily rate for non leap years is (1+r/2)^(2/365) and for leap years (1+r/2)^(2/366). This allows for calculating weekly and biweekly repayments. For monthly payments the amount of interest that is applied to the principle will vary depending on the length of the month. Lastly the financial literacy of sales people and loan managers is abysmal -- just ask any of them to explain how the loan is amortized or challenge them to produce a spreadsheet that provides an amortization schedule. Come on this is high school math -- no calculus involved.
thank you so much. it was really clear and useful.
Thank you for exploring your curioisty and your due dilligence! This was inisghtful :))
Thanks for sharing the python code, for python3, print() is a function so you'll have to wrap the strings in parens. Great video, thank you!
This was very helpful. Thank you!
great video, thank you
Wow! wonderfully explained. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for explaining this so well!
You're very welcome!
wonderful explanation. Thank you
Isn't dividing the annual interest rate by 12 to get the monthly rate an approximation? Going up 12% a year is not the same as going up 1% a month. Anyone can easily see this by just inputting it into a calculator if they don't believe me. (1+.12)^1 = 1.12 =/= (1+.01)^12 = 1.1268... I know this is how most calculators work still but I wonder why this approximation is always used?
I noticed this too... I guess its just because of the en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_value_of_money
If you pay your loan in the end of the year in one payment, you will have to pay more, as all the payment will be in the future, thus it cost will be more than if you paid small sum every day or every month. You are still paying bulk of the loan in the future, but few payments in first month worth much more than those in the end, so the end interest sum is lower in this case, although the "annual" interest stays the same!
The assumption r=R/12 is never used in the actual derivation so the formula still stands. And you are right, r would be the monthly interest rate that translates to the R annual rate. i.e (1+r)^12 = R.
awesome job
Thank You for the same, brilliant explanation.
Awesome!
Thanks!
Very nice work! Thanks!
Excellent derivation!
Thanks man, great explanation :)
I've actually been looking for a derivation of present value given future value, but I think I can use this as a guide for how to set it up.
Thank you... Very much appreciate. If my lecturer teach this formula, i think my financial management will get A.
Awesome Thanks for sharing, may i ask why simplify geometry part (2) - (1)?
Thanks for the derivation. But......
And this may sound like something a flat earther would ask, but it seems like interest gets figured in twice.
To get the Current Payment, you take the Prevous Balance, subtract the previous payment, and add the interest paid on the previous balance.
But the interest was already figured in the monthly payment. I'm just a little confused.
This video explains it better:
ruclips.net/video/rtIBGhbSeBY/видео.html&ab_channel=DrBobMaths%28OnlineMathsTuition%29
Essentially the first month when you obtain the loan, you do not make any payment. The interest for the first month accrues at the end of the first month, regardless if you make the payment either at the end of the first month or the beginning of the second month. So, at the end of the first month interest was only factored in for the first month. At the end of the second month, interest was only factored in for the balance minus the first constant payment.
One can argue that the constant monthly payment M already contains the interest Pnr. But at least for the first month the interest of P0r is correct. Maybe some math genius can derive a more logical formula that can save us all some interest payment.
Taking python class, already built a calculator for amortization total interest paid, but no wanted to bulid one that took into account extra principal payments and I was looking for that formula.
Awesome brother
THANK YOU FINALLY
Thanks.
I was like how the heck did my back come up with the money payment?
Great video
You got rid of the porsche? I thought you were planning on getting an R8 next?!
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Bro can you explain why p1 = p0 -M +p0*r ?
16:21 But why did you multiply X by (1+r)
So he could eliminate all the internal terms of (1+r)^n. If I have 1 + A + A*A + A*A*A + A^4 + A^5, I can multiply and divide by A - 1 to get (A^6 - 1) / (A - 1), or why he subtracted equation (2) from equation (1)
18:26 how does (1+r)X-X=rX ?
one sec
X((1+r)-1)
X(r+1-1)
X(r)
rX I see now
Well i can explain this a little more simply. Just explain what annuities are and how it's formula is derived. Done!
Clear as mud!
Is this for USA or Canada?
Thank you very much. Was looking for how the loan was calculated and only getting the formula everywhere. But your explanation clears it out. Thank you!
I’m determined to understand this fully - it’s going to take more than one watch 😅 Thank you for your work