I mean, in their first hundred episodes they did episodes on gamifying education, piracy, supreme court law, Japanese vs. Western culture, Anonymous, being a producer, the Uncanny Valley, The Singularity, Technobabble in Sci-Fi, SOPA and PIPA, Spectrum Crunch, Politics... The channel was "here's whatever James Portnow has been obsessing over this week" for a pretty long time. It's always been broadly multidisciplinary as a result. If anything, they've tightened up their focus on game design in the past years by breaking up their other content into Extra History, Extra Politics, Extra Sci-Fi, etc.
0:00 Intro 1:41 1) Establish Your Guiding Principles 2:29 2) Make Your Tools Open-ended 3:11 3) Bury Synergies for People to Discover 4:12 4) Favor Basics Over Specifics 4:53 5) Identify Your Limitations 5:41 6) Quantify Your End Goal 7:09 Ads
I would think so. Consider the "Limitations" points - SMM showcased levels that got a lot of mileage out of a limited array of options. Those grew over time, incorporating elements that hadn't been in the original games for the earlier generations (i.e. doors in SMB style, new foes that weren't invented but had been "de-made"), but even then, there are still a limited number of options and the game lets player make great use out of them. Look at synchronized levels as an example, where the elements form a Rube Goldberg-esque show for the player as they coast along.
I spend a lot of time dealing with/thinking about development tools which are dev-facing, and the player might not actually ever see for themselves (game engines/IDEs, editors like Tiled, etc) and a lot of this applies there too. Development tools are the sort of thing that you don't think much about until you're faced with using badly-designed ones that end up costing you a lot of time, and a simple set of tools that you can use to create a lot of different types of content > a ton of highly specific tools with their own workflow and learning curve.
When I was playing Magic the Gathering house rules with a friend of mine at college. He asked me to test a swamp deck he was playing with. So I found that one of his spell cards would allow his poison touch creature to hit twice in the same turn. Once I discovered this the game was over in about 10 turns as he desperately tried to use his regular deck to get that thing off the field. It's like the reason Black Lotus was taken out of Magic the Gathering official tournament it created synergies with other game pieces that were never intended
I just graduated with my own made Design Tool, could've used this information earlier xD But, incidentally used most of these design principles, so thanks for the confirmation ;)
My greatest demand from my design tool is "be a competent word processor." "Being a decent grid" is a close second. Fortunately, the combination of graph paper and a stick of graphite fits those requirements perfectly.
Given 5th edition of "The world's most popular roleplaying game" even has a rule that prevents the barbarian from spellcasting while enraged, I almost feel like this was just a bit of a stab in their direction. It brings me joy to imagine it would be, at any rate.
This truly was enlightening and well-timed. I was just considering such a 'creative toolset' for players of my project this morning. Now I have the tools and tips to flesh it out and structure the toolset correctly. - Jamie
“…even if you assume no one’s going to cross-class a wizard and a barbarian because of how non-optimal it is…” Well… about that…. *points to Pathfinder’s Bloodrager class* (I know it’s more barbarian and sorcerer, but my point stands)
Pole arm master, WarCaster, Evocation wizard You can cast fireball at anyone who enters your area of control With a certain interpretation of the rules, it's a way to cast 2 spells with a casting time of one action within one round
I have watched your videos for several years. I absolutely adore that you never, never bring politics into your videos. I conclude that you must be a good person. I salute you, you lucky bastard! (Which means, I wish I was a better person. Hmm, maybe tomorrow.)
Don't be rediculus. I main the Wizard Barbarian. Otherwise how would I cast fist? After all ranged foes target spell slingers so it is worth combining the ability to take alot of damage with the ability to deal alot of damage with fire.
Look at what you want to get from the game. Personal interactions with the other people, an interactive story game, or just a way to disconnect from reality for a little bit. For me, running my games online works out best as it gives me access to a more diverse pool of players to match the style of game I want to run. If you want a more in-person experience, check with your local gaming or comic stores (if near a city or sizable community). Local stores often have leads to groups or may even have an area set up for organized play.
Kinda laughing right now because I did play a cross-class barbarian/warlock once. His rage powers came from a fiendish bargain he'd struck, and his spells gave him a handful of low-level but effective self-buffs and utility effects.
Ah, yes the good old tradition of complaining about how the current expansion ruined everything. Man, TBC really sucked, until WotlK came around, that sucked so much more! The nostalgia! By that standard WotlK really was the best/worst Addon so far, as it had the most people i know selling their accounts in frustration.
It really depends on if you want to build it room by room or the entire thing at once. If you just keep it in sections you need considerably less than if you want to fill an entire room with Ravenloft's entire floorplan.
Fun fact: a game programmer can also apply some of these principles to the development of a dev tool for artists, designers and testers.
Oh, right.
This channel was for video games once.
I mean, in their first hundred episodes they did episodes on gamifying education, piracy, supreme court law, Japanese vs. Western culture, Anonymous, being a producer, the Uncanny Valley, The Singularity, Technobabble in Sci-Fi, SOPA and PIPA, Spectrum Crunch, Politics...
The channel was "here's whatever James Portnow has been obsessing over this week" for a pretty long time. It's always been broadly multidisciplinary as a result. If anything, they've tightened up their focus on game design in the past years by breaking up their other content into Extra History, Extra Politics, Extra Sci-Fi, etc.
That transition to a hello fresh ad was truly spectacular
0:00 Intro
1:41 1) Establish Your Guiding Principles
2:29 2) Make Your Tools Open-ended
3:11 3) Bury Synergies for People to Discover
4:12 4) Favor Basics Over Specifics
4:53 5) Identify Your Limitations
5:41 6) Quantify Your End Goal
7:09 Ads
Would these principles also apply to video games with user generated content like Super Mario Maker, for example?
Amogus
I would think so. Consider the "Limitations" points - SMM showcased levels that got a lot of mileage out of a limited array of options. Those grew over time, incorporating elements that hadn't been in the original games for the earlier generations (i.e. doors in SMB style, new foes that weren't invented but had been "de-made"), but even then, there are still a limited number of options and the game lets player make great use out of them. Look at synchronized levels as an example, where the elements form a Rube Goldberg-esque show for the player as they coast along.
Absolutely! It also goes for productive tools for other creatives, things like Photoshop
"How am i supposed to feed 100 vampires?"
DoomGuy: *Loads shotgun with malicious intent.* Feed them lead.
Don't you mean silver?
@@ghyslainabel That's werewolves. I suppose fleshette shells count are tiny stakes, right?
@@PlebNC don't need stakes if you decapitate
@@tassadar7945 If there's enough fleshettes in the shell, you can do both at the same time.
I spend a lot of time dealing with/thinking about development tools which are dev-facing, and the player might not actually ever see for themselves (game engines/IDEs, editors like Tiled, etc) and a lot of this applies there too. Development tools are the sort of thing that you don't think much about until you're faced with using badly-designed ones that end up costing you a lot of time, and a simple set of tools that you can use to create a lot of different types of content > a ton of highly specific tools with their own workflow and learning curve.
Unity in particular has an... interesting relationship with these concepts :p
@Kazumaf stupid spam bot.
All you really need is a text editor and a quick reference guide. "LDA 0x0F" "LDB 0x02" "SUB B,A"...
No one's going to cross class wizard and barbarian...
3.5 Rage Mage had entered the chat. Because yes, it exists.
Who can forget the absolutely legendary MUSCLE WIZARD! He only casts one spell: PUNCH!
(He knows more, but why overcomplicate it?)
@@Zanarthis I thought his spell was "FIST!".
@@Archgeek0 depends on who you ask, but either way works.
I cast FIST!
Because why wouldn't it exist?
Note to self: never buy a hammer designed by CR.
9 minute Dwarven forge ad... still, as always, solid info
Feels like it. Good advice though.
Right... No one can share tips for creativity without people thinking it's for the money. Great.
3:02 I. CAST. FIST.
That is funny to me.
Now I want to play dnd :(
Ah well, I'll just build campaigns and environments on talespire.
*is doing that exact thing right now*
*has been caught*
*hisses and scuttles away*
7:17 “Looks like my neck is saved again!”
...what neck?
When I was playing Magic the Gathering house rules with a friend of mine at college. He asked me to test a swamp deck he was playing with. So I found that one of his spell cards would allow his poison touch creature to hit twice in the same turn. Once I discovered this the game was over in about 10 turns as he desperately tried to use his regular deck to get that thing off the field.
It's like the reason Black Lotus was taken out of Magic the Gathering official tournament it created synergies with other game pieces that were never intended
That Bloody Tears rendition is pretty good. Where'd you guys find it?
I love Nate's "design", it's cool to see diversity in fashion styles too! You can be a functioning adult and still dress fun it's great ✨
I just graduated with my own made Design Tool, could've used this information earlier xD But, incidentally used most of these design principles, so thanks for the confirmation ;)
thx for making your cast so diverse i feel seen and heard
My greatest demand from my design tool is "be a competent word processor." "Being a decent grid" is a close second. Fortunately, the combination of graph paper and a stick of graphite fits those requirements perfectly.
The Bridge of Valoria is feeling very called out at 4:21
Two of my favorite worlds collided... Extra Credits and Dwarven Forge! These tools, and they are tools, are wonderful things.
Given 5th edition of "The world's most popular roleplaying game" even has a rule that prevents the barbarian from spellcasting while enraged, I almost feel like this was just a bit of a stab in their direction. It brings me joy to imagine it would be, at any rate.
4:10
This one goes out to my Italian friend out there...
"Ma te piace er pesce sur-gelato?"
3:00 "Muscle Wizard Cast "PUNCH!!".
This truly was enlightening and well-timed. I was just considering such a 'creative toolset' for players of my project this morning. Now I have the tools and tips to flesh it out and structure the toolset correctly.
- Jamie
I think the Eden Editor in Arma 3 is a perfect example of helping gamers make there own experience
This is also valid for those of us who make their own terrain. **waves at spiders living in the pile of terrain used exactly one time**
Being flexible with what you make so that people can apply it to their unique settings is the best mentality to have here.
Thank you for the video.
Great video! I also loved the Castelvania music at the end :)
Thanks for the video, pretty stellar like always
Now *_this_* is good
“…even if you assume no one’s going to cross-class a wizard and a barbarian because of how non-optimal it is…”
Well… about that….
*points to Pathfinder’s Bloodrager class*
(I know it’s more barbarian and sorcerer, but my point stands)
Wow, serious shade for the Bridge of Valor....
Great job though, really enjoyed seeing beloved Dwarven Forge sculpts come to cartoonish life!
Now I want a swol wizard t-shirt.
that was a nice sponsor sketch lol
Well dang… now I have to build a Wizard Barbarian
Pole arm master, WarCaster, Evocation wizard
You can cast fireball at anyone who enters your area of control
With a certain interpretation of the rules, it's a way to cast 2 spells with a casting time of one action within one round
@@loganvanderwier8866 Cool
I have watched your videos for several years. I absolutely adore that you never, never bring politics into your videos. I conclude that you must be a good person. I salute you, you lucky bastard! (Which means, I wish I was a better person. Hmm, maybe tomorrow.)
good transition to that promo, good job
ok but that barbarian wizard was kinda cute tho
Don't be rediculus. I main the Wizard Barbarian. Otherwise how would I cast fist? After all ranged foes target spell slingers so it is worth combining the ability to take alot of damage with the ability to deal alot of damage with fire.
Monk
Interesting stuff! I didn't realize EC was a gamer!
The wizard-barbarian reminds me of uncle Ihro
I want to point out Pathfinder 2e for their superb character creation. You can literally be a barbarian wizard or wizard barbarian and it works!
Came here from Dwarven Forge and now I want a SawHammer to with my AxeShotgun.
there are giant googly eyes on his toaster at 7:37
So strange and sad that of all things LEGO seems to have forgotten these principles.
Matt is a DM? *gulp*
Context: I’m in the middle of my first ever campaign and I’m having a ball!
We have a ton of fun in Matt's Campaigns. He really sets the stage for it all!
This is very interesting
Lego as an example.
This also applies to engineering tools, educational technology, home decoration.
It's a room full of vampires!
"Does it look wet?" -Extra Credits
I've always wanted to play d&d.
PANR has tuned in.
@Kazumaf maybe?
There needs to be more mushrooms.
hmmmm... honestly out of curiosity what is that number at the end?
What about creating levels? Not rpg
I hope that everyone has a blessed day and no matter what always remember to smile because you guys are Awesome and are Legends 💙
Ngl kinda jealous I’ve been wanting to do a tabletop rpg for awhile but can’t find anyone to do a game with
Try searching in some subreddits or discord server
If you're fine with online play, try the roll20 forums
Look at what you want to get from the game. Personal interactions with the other people, an interactive story game, or just a way to disconnect from reality for a little bit.
For me, running my games online works out best as it gives me access to a more diverse pool of players to match the style of game I want to run.
If you want a more in-person experience, check with your local gaming or comic stores (if near a city or sizable community). Local stores often have leads to groups or may even have an area set up for organized play.
Thanks guys I’ll definitely give those a try
To r/rpgdesign with you!
So HOW MUCH is Castle Ravenloft with Dwarven Forge?
Kinda laughing right now because I did play a cross-class barbarian/warlock once. His rage powers came from a fiendish bargain he'd struck, and his spells gave him a handful of low-level but effective self-buffs and utility effects.
Ohoho
Please do fire fighting in Britain
Who else wants to send this to World of Warcraft?
Ah, yes the good old tradition of complaining about how the current expansion ruined everything. Man, TBC really sucked, until WotlK came around, that sucked so much more!
The nostalgia! By that standard WotlK really was the best/worst Addon so far, as it had the most people i know selling their accounts in frustration.
Please talk about Half-Life and Doom
Ok
That ad tho
pretty good video
Compared to other settings, Castle Ravenloft is not that big
Okay has anyone ran the numbers and totaled what it would cost to do Castle Ravenloft?
well above 3000§. Just estimating, but dwarven forge is very pricey.
It really depends on if you want to build it room by room or the entire thing at once. If you just keep it in sections you need considerably less than if you want to fill an entire room with Ravenloft's entire floorplan.
Yo
Fun fact: White chocolate is chocolate
Me in the middle of a Mr. Beast video (it appeared on notifications)
This is way too trippy for me
ok
This channel basically died when the original team members left
How about choosing and sticking to one sponsor AD! Instead of making 9 minute video consisting of 7 minute AD followed by 2 minute AD =(
Hello Fresh delivers blood?
early gang
@Kazumaf sus
This is just a 9 minute long dwarven forge ad where you say that design tools need to be tools for design.
With i was frist
The designing process is designed by a designer using tools designed to design things...
Too many layers...
WISH i was frist :(
:(
Downvoted for the sponsor - hugely wasteful with loads of extra packaging, and all the ads ever show are meat dishes.