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  • Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
  • The Professor shares some of his own research in the field of self-optimized chemical reactions... Letting a computer do all the "boring" work.
    You can download the paper for free until May 31... Details at periodicvideos.blogspot.com/20...
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    Research supported by the EPSRC
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  • @RobbieFranklin
    @RobbieFranklin 11 лет назад +27

    This method really excites me. I am a Chemical Engineering and Biochemistry double major and this is right up my alley.

  • @zasgat
    @zasgat 11 лет назад +59

    i wonder how many of your videos start with the professor being exited

  • @ib9rt
    @ib9rt 13 лет назад +2

    As a chemical engineer who works with computer modelling, optimization and control I really enjoyed this video. It presses all my buttons! Good work!

  • @jjkul1
    @jjkul1 13 лет назад +2

    Dear Martyn Polyakoff,
    I haven't left a single video you have published unwatched. I think it is incredible how you have educated millions of people you don't know yet simultaneously making the world a better place. Thank you.
    I wish you further success and hope you continue on your path happily.
    Mohammed, a subscriber.

  • @zantrua
    @zantrua 9 лет назад +29

    Is this process subject to local maxima? Or does it do some random probing to limit the odds of ending up in a hole?

  • @JustToaster
    @JustToaster 13 лет назад +1

    I was at a conference in Utrecht, where the Professor talked about this research. It was really interesting, thank you for that. Congratulation on the paper!

  • @trunkszetto
    @trunkszetto 13 лет назад +1

    Brady, it's great that you're showing more of the different professors' individual research projects (first Dr. Moriarty and now this)... you should do more of these!

  • @rockerlkj
    @rockerlkj 13 лет назад +4

    "It takes the boredome out of doing chemistry"
    "Well, maybe I like the boredom of doing chemistry"

  • @BuickDoc
    @BuickDoc 12 лет назад +4

    This is my second view of this video. I know this comment comes months after the release of this video, but I feel compelled to comment! Great work! I had a similar idea years ago, but the technology was not mature then. So I did it the old-fashioned way, as you described. Boring!
    This method also has the advantage that after optimizing the conditions of the reaction, the same apparatus could be used on a preparative scale to prepare as much as you want. Throwing in the CO2 is also ingenious!

  • @AnonymousBAFERD
    @AnonymousBAFERD 13 лет назад

    this guy is brilliant... bravo to the research team and all that help put this production on. The general public finally gets to see science in action.

  • @jacoman1234567
    @jacoman1234567 13 лет назад

    He mentioned this in his lecture at a symposium in Utrecht a couple of weeks ago. HIs talk made my day, it was awesome!

  • @johnofcross
    @johnofcross 11 лет назад +2

    Love the enthusiasm coming from him. He's just excited for science!

  • @xlrv1
    @xlrv1 13 лет назад

    I love recursive processes (and your animated diagram)! But this is the first time I have seen recursion at work in chemistry. There is something beautiful about it that transcends chemistry or any particular discipline. Thank you for this!

  • @jops11
    @jops11 13 лет назад

    Man, that's a good bit of kit. Great team work and great results. Well done.

  • @shidoink
    @shidoink 13 лет назад

    i cant believe someone hasnt thought of this sooner! its really the most essential thing i can think of now that you have made it! very well done.

  • @CoyoteBuddy
    @CoyoteBuddy 13 лет назад +2

    I love the Professor's enthusiasm!

  • @harveyhandbanana
    @harveyhandbanana 13 лет назад

    the proffessor is one of those few people who i can just tell loves what he does truly and purely. good to see a person like that they're hard to come by=)

  • @BuGBurnout
    @BuGBurnout 13 лет назад +1

    Congratulations on achieving such a system! Loved it!

  • @KaWouter_
    @KaWouter_ 13 лет назад

    Beautiful explanation of the gas chromatograph. Some collegues at my school will be very glad to see this video that will help with their project.

  • @z4k4z
    @z4k4z 13 лет назад

    ...and congratulations to the team on publishing this paper.

  • @ijunkie
    @ijunkie 13 лет назад

    Your use of computer technology in the lab is astonishingly brilliant and of course its chemistry if you are advancing knowledge about matter. Chemical engineering is focused on applied chemistry in the economic world, which doesn't seem to be the primary role of universities.

  • @AraGuitar
    @AraGuitar 13 лет назад

    I love the professor's symmetrical hand movements!

  • @colourmegone
    @colourmegone 13 лет назад

    So you have discovered the power of evolution when linked to the concept of feedback. Congratulations on your publication, I hope your methods will be adopted to make all our lives better.

  • @chopperboi89
    @chopperboi89 13 лет назад +1

    Congratulations to you and your team professor! :)

  • @bigdaveoncampus
    @bigdaveoncampus 13 лет назад

    Just finished reading the paper, very informative and most of it is understandable even to an A-level student like myself. lets just hope that not long down the line the research uncovers a way of getting the E factor to 0kg, that would truly revolutionise the chemical industry as we know it.

  • @JonatanGronoset
    @JonatanGronoset 13 лет назад

    Excellent work, professor!

  • @FortOrdDirt
    @FortOrdDirt 13 лет назад

    I am so smitten with this type of science.... sometimes i wish I wasn't in the US and could visit you guys

  • @MystMagus
    @MystMagus 13 лет назад

    I'm excited too. I love to see applied solutions creating greater efficiency.

  • @DevilMaster
    @DevilMaster 13 лет назад +1

    Wow, chemistry and computer science: my two favorite sciences together!
    When I was at school, for a while I couldn't quite decide whether to specialize in one or the other; I finally decided for computer science because it's easier and cheaper to practice at home as a hobby. You can download open source SDKs for free, but you can't download chemicals for free. ;-)

  • @CrAzYcArNiE08
    @CrAzYcArNiE08 13 лет назад

    Good Honest Professor if you ask me.

  • @KajsSwedishMeatBalls
    @KajsSwedishMeatBalls 13 лет назад

    I love the professor, I want to live with him and do chemistry every day.

  • @Norfeldt
    @Norfeldt 12 лет назад +1

    I love this video so much. This is exactly how I want to do science.

  • @theangelofsin
    @theangelofsin 13 лет назад

    I'm a chemical engineering student and this just made my day!~

  • @squimball
    @squimball 13 лет назад

    Something done in 1-2 days that normally takes 80 days. Wow, a +80X boost for man-kind! Awesome stuff! Do I smell a Nobel in the professor's future? :D

  • @Muscleduck
    @Muscleduck 13 лет назад

    Great breakthrough professor!

  • @AntiProtonBoy
    @AntiProtonBoy 13 лет назад

    Congratulations to all of you for getting this paper published!

  • @Pygar2
    @Pygar2 13 лет назад

    Clever, clever... letting a computer ring the changes instead of by hand. The wonders of the Computer Age! Along with a lot of human teamwork...

  • @Danemarkofmalvern
    @Danemarkofmalvern 13 лет назад

    @periodicvideos thanks, Im planning on doing Chemistry at nottingham assuming i can get in, only doing a/s now

  • @JamBear
    @JamBear 13 лет назад

    I'm waiting for the paper to appear on web of science, it sounds like it will be a good read. Like a feedback loop for reaction conditions! Very interesting!

  • @TheFyroPyro
    @TheFyroPyro 13 лет назад

    you guys are going to get a freakin nobel prize for this!

  • @koorb
    @koorb 13 лет назад

    As he talked about how long it took to find optimal conditions the Computer Scientist in me was thinking about a Fuzzy Logic setup that would do that for him. The next step would be to use either a Neural Net setup or a Genetic Algorithm setup in combination with multiple sets of lab equipment to speedup the time it take to calculate optimal reaction conditions.

  • @mechareaper
    @mechareaper 11 лет назад +1

    Well, before a large company constructs something to do this for a given technique and for given applications, who comes up with it first? Even if the technique of self adjustment of the conditions, while certainly already available for many conditions and specific products, for the specific technique and or products, it still has to be thought of, proven by, and implemented by a researcher. Maybe he's the first for this specific process, or he's discovered some new system of optimization.

  • @tycho_m
    @tycho_m 13 лет назад

    Prof. Pol is awesome!

  • @koorb
    @koorb 13 лет назад

    It would then also be very interesting to create an knowledge database with the results of lots of reactions, that way even if you didn't know what the optimal conditions where to start with, you could tell the database for the characteristics of what you had and wanted to produce, it would then give you a suggestion on what it thinks is the best conditions.

  • @onlyKentrop
    @onlyKentrop 12 лет назад

    I think the brilliance of it isn't in the scale that you can move it up to, but coming back to the "green" side of things, you're compressing 80 or so days of experimentation down to 1 1/2 days. That's basically 78 or so days where you're not having to keep all this equipment running, possibly idling a lot of the time. You're also then saving energy on heating, lighting, etc.
    So for nothing else, you're making a massive energy saving just through making the experiment much faster.

  • @beerbellyfighter
    @beerbellyfighter 13 лет назад

    just used the same gas chromatograph machine today (we call it the russian technology). Very interesting research, maybe I will read it on science direct if I find it there. I was wandering if you had some information about micro emulsions or some interesting books that you would recommend about the matter. Keep up the good work.

  • @525047
    @525047 13 лет назад

    Again computers make us feel like we're cheating. The use of carbon dioxide as a solvent for this device could be really big. Great Job.

  • @hunterprice8145
    @hunterprice8145 13 лет назад

    I figured the world-renowned creators of Periodic Videos would have a sweet instrumentation lab. It looks just as old and dilapidated as the one we use down here in Tennessee :(
    Either way congratz on getting published!

  • @nellux
    @nellux 13 лет назад

    Finally, you suggest that the algorithms be tuned to optimized other variables, such as the E factor.
    Even more interesting, IMHO, is the fact that the whole economics of chemical production could be optimized as well. A scenario in which production costs go down, the E factor is minimized, etc. is not utopic. Medicine costs would inevitably go down, which would be a welcomed relief.
    Or combinatorial chemistry optimization leading to better drug discovery. Or....

  • @MountainStorm
    @MountainStorm 13 лет назад

    Thank you so much and congratulations!

  • @nellux
    @nellux 13 лет назад

    It would be interesting to compare the degree of optimization achieved by two different, but very similar, algorithms. The first, using the most precise physical chemistry equations known to date, against the second, using a less rigorous set of equations.
    E.g. compare the efficiency of an algorithm using a virial equation of state to one using Van der Waals' or the perfect gas law. One set of "basic" equations vs one set of "state-of-the-art" others.

  • @endospores
    @endospores 13 лет назад

    Wow you have some kind of gear in there. What make is that pump pushing the pentanol mix? Is that a waters binary pump?

  • @Desmaad
    @Desmaad 13 лет назад

    I have a friend who works at an ashphalt plant; he'd be delighted to hear about this! It would certainly speed up development! P.S. the editing was a bit sloppy, particularly the bit where the Professor waves his arm to reveal the computers processing the data; that cut was a bit premature.

  • @BuickDoc
    @BuickDoc 13 лет назад

    Good work! What do you use for software? Home grown?

  • @Danemarkofmalvern
    @Danemarkofmalvern 13 лет назад

    @Xerotaerg its ok, it is often difficult to put the correct emphasis into text

  • @pipsproductions15
    @pipsproductions15 13 лет назад

    Congrats professor

  • @tybo09
    @tybo09 13 лет назад

    @periodicvideos Absolutely! I love "gadget" videos. Even better, I love "how it works" videos about those gadgets.
    Ever think of explaining how a gas chromatograph works? It's the only piece of equipment in the lab where I work that I don't completely understand.

  • @VRJosh
    @VRJosh 12 лет назад +1

    I would have thought that large chemical companies would already have a process like this that automatically adjusts the equipment to produce the largest volume of the desired chemical as quickly as possible.

  • @Skindoggiedog
    @Skindoggiedog 13 лет назад

    Great job, guys!

  • @riveness
    @riveness 13 лет назад

    @nellux On larger scale, optimised processes are the normal. Doing it in the lab is difficult.

  • @oraz.
    @oraz. 13 лет назад

    I've seen almost all of these, but I really liked this one..
    Probably because of all the gadgets being described.

  • @z4k4z
    @z4k4z 13 лет назад

    The self-optimizing approach called to mind something that may be of interest. Since I can't post a URL in this comment, here's a quote from the Cornell Computational Synthesis Laboratory:
    "Eureqa (pronounced "eureka") is a software tool for detecting equations and hidden mathematical relationships in your data. Its goal is to identify the simplest mathematical formulas which could describe the underlying mechanisms that produced the data. Eureqa is free to download and use."

  • @unvergebeneid
    @unvergebeneid 13 лет назад

    What optimisation algorithm did you use? It looks like gradient descent or simplex to me from what I see in the video. Are chemistry problems always convex or how do you prevent getting stuck in local minima?

  • @garouHH
    @garouHH 11 лет назад

    Did you use a hillclimbing algorithm searching local maxima, assuming (probably correctly) that there is just one optimum in the search space?

  • @PrivateSlacker
    @PrivateSlacker 13 лет назад

    What use to take days by a lowly graduate student is now done in a day and a half by a machine. Even highly educated work is being automated. Progress Marches On.

  • @Barnekkid
    @Barnekkid 13 лет назад

    I'm proud of you too!

  • @klaxoncow
    @klaxoncow 13 лет назад

    An interesting concept would be a series of these machines.
    The first machine can take raw elements and create basic compounds - which then feeds into other similar machines that make ever-more complex substances. And so it continues.
    Creating a generic product-manufacturing machine - a very primitive version of Star Trek's "replicator" technology.
    You just load it up with raw elements and then tell the computer "I want aspirin" or "Tea. Earl Grey. Hot" and it's automatically created.

  • @mechareaper
    @mechareaper 11 лет назад

    Why is the instrument so dirty? I suppose when I worked with HPLC there were all sorts of leakage problems that periodically popped up, and a system pumping super-critical CO2 would have similar problems, but did no one bother to clean it up?

  • @dsgreat3
    @dsgreat3 13 лет назад

    was the software that runs all this specifically developed by Nottingham as well or is it off the shelf stuff? im a programmer and would have loved to be part of a project like this.

  • @TakronRust
    @TakronRust 13 лет назад

    What was the chemical you were synthesizing supposed to be used for?

  • @chris1232123
    @chris1232123 13 лет назад

    out of interest, how is the output from the GC quantified into a yield and then communicated back to the machine?

  • @riveness
    @riveness 13 лет назад

    @nellux Now that I have read the paper I can comment more freely. What exactly is going on was not immediately clear.
    On the paper: In the laboratory there are a lot of degress of freedom; sometimes the only constraint is money. That is why at lab scale reaction yields etc are better than at industrial scale. You get better micxing for eg and better reactions. At industrial scale the degrees of freedom are much less.

  • @SomeCrudLayingAround
    @SomeCrudLayingAround 13 лет назад

    @periodicvideos who manages the you tube channel?

  • @silentelysium
    @silentelysium 13 лет назад

    @periodicvideos Aww. The paper has restricted access =( I would have loved to read it though!

  • @wesofx8148
    @wesofx8148 11 лет назад +1

    What if you have a massive network of these rigs feeding into one another in various ways, all controlled from a single computer. Imagine the things you could do and the time-frames you could do them in.

  • @naggerkiller
    @naggerkiller 13 лет назад

    @periodicvideos are you able to post a copy of it somewhere forus to read for free?

  • @LadyTink
    @LadyTink 11 лет назад +1

    The computer run chemical reaction likely uses a variant form of evolutionary optimization.
    I mean, you vary the conditions and reward the best results...
    Evolution can do that :P

  • @Disgod12
    @Disgod12 13 лет назад

    @KlaxonCow Cool, figured there'd be a nifty name for it. Funny thing is I do actually know the term, I just forgot it when I posted the comment.

  • @BGenerous
    @BGenerous 13 лет назад

    Does the optimization technique ensure that a global optimum is found? I wish the paper wasn't behind a paywall--I'd love to see the optimization algorithms.

  • @nellux
    @nellux 13 лет назад

    @riveness that sounds more right. why is it so hard to scale down?
    What intrigues me even more is why people (see comments) are amazed by this paper. Meiz79's comment is a great example of how poorly the general public understands chemistry's place in science, its gifts to humankind.
    @Meiz79 Whatever problem you can think of can be dealt with by science.

  • @pilleyuppo23
    @pilleyuppo23 13 лет назад

    ... so the big breakthrough must then be the software you are using?

  • @chentiangemalc
    @chentiangemalc 13 лет назад

    great

  • @oBCHANo
    @oBCHANo 13 лет назад

    @CommonRaven because, that isn't boring....

  • @bemanos12345
    @bemanos12345 13 лет назад

    amazing invention! but why prof's name has an asterisk (*) in the paper?

  • @kyle3420
    @kyle3420 13 лет назад

    Are you guys using MATLAB for the program?

  • @akashashen
    @akashashen 12 лет назад

    @juanarruti Math and prep; what you've always done.

  • @Danemarkofmalvern
    @Danemarkofmalvern 13 лет назад

    are you nottingham or nottinghan trent?

  • @JesseMaurais
    @JesseMaurais 13 лет назад

    Were those diagrams made with R?

  • @rageagainstthebath
    @rageagainstthebath 13 лет назад

    whoops, editing glitch at 5:24.
    Otherwise, finally some electronics from Nottingham. :)

  • @mrericsully
    @mrericsully 13 лет назад

    Science by trial and error- I love it.

  • @TheBoyFromNorfolk
    @TheBoyFromNorfolk 13 лет назад

    Super Critical CO2 is a fascinating new branch of chemistry.
    But the practical Lab work is what I'm good at :(

  • @sethlava
    @sethlava 13 лет назад

    What is super critical?

  • @slapleatheru3
    @slapleatheru3 13 лет назад

    I swear. If you flapped your hands and arms any faster you would have been airborne. So you must have had a great discovery.

  • @mrblisterfist
    @mrblisterfist 13 лет назад

    Well done! Congats :)

  • @flooodis
    @flooodis 13 лет назад

    The setup seems pretty simple. I guess the magic is in the software?

  • @pokerpara3
    @pokerpara3 13 лет назад

    perfect "experiment" to try an evolitionary algorithm

  • @MrSuednym
    @MrSuednym 12 лет назад

    Congrats Professor! (I know I'm a bit late...)

  • @sonicase
    @sonicase 13 лет назад

    nice job :D

  • @ENr369
    @ENr369 13 лет назад

    what will us undergrads do now???

  • @TheGreatSteve
    @TheGreatSteve 11 лет назад

    Ditto.