i have used single player cheats and i am still sad that single player games stopped making cheats for their games so you can make a play thru in any way you want WC3 campaign whit thousands off units dieing thru out the campaign is fun
@@tnc7399 with how minecraft keeps mods(general folder structure) and probably those were mods for the manhunt videos(to make them more watchable/expedious) I'm not gonna be too surprised if some mods were not cleanly removed. Hence why his other speedruns might have been illegitimate too.
@@dracmeister i think this was somewhat claimed to be the case by one of the devs or something of the modpacks he uses for his manhunt or other non speedrunning videos...i think it was KiraTV who made a nicely explained video on it after reaching out to Dream and trying to state things as objectively as he could
Cheating in multiplayer games is just scummy. If you want to do that in a single player game for your own enjoyment, go ahead, I’ve done that for a single player campaign of EU4 to see how a OP Switzerland with guns fights the world in 1444. Cheats are only ever ok in single player, never ever ruin other people’s games
Dream admitted after months of waiting for everyone to forget. After he basically sent harassment to the moderation team and brought a huge divide in the community. He somehow got away because of his stans. He just happened to forget about them
Last time I cheated was when I was like 13 playing Dead Island and I gave myself infinite ammo, with cheat engine. Made the game more enjoyable for me since I was too dumb to both bother with and enjoy the strategy of resource management.
The only cheats I’ve ever used were on the 2005 Battlefront 2 that were in the game’s single player. Mostly just the invincibility cheat code because that one is burned into my memory.
There is a technique of using keyboard to fire to avoid your hand "recoiling" when you press the mouse-button. Most people just train away the spasm, but some opt to use the keyboard to fire.
this is pure bs, literally every pro player in every fps game in the world uses m1 to shoot. If your problem is a twitchy hand then you need medical assistance not a spacebar rebind.
@@Real_MisterSir No shit sherlock, they're fucking PROS!! And we're not talking about parkingsons here, typically with vigorous fingermotions there's an accompanying hand motion that typically isn't detectable but in a precision situation in an FPS game...
@@eddebrock I say pros as an example because the person claiming to use spacebar is a high-rated streamer with pro-like skills, and you don't reach that level by having to use spacebar to shoot - not in a game like this. From the average player, less than 1% uses spacebar for anything other than jumping regardless of game. It's bs and if you don't understand the context then that's on you.
I'm sorry, but if your trigger finger is so weak that your hand spasms when trying to exert a FEW OUNCES of downward pressure, you need help. I have never heard such BS before in my life. Not saying it can't happen, but people pull 9+ pound triggers all the time and do so accurately with the same finger.
Here is a idea for a Nagzz react series. What if we do a segment/video where Nagzz reacts to epic/funny moments that we the community have had in games and we send them to him? Just a thought.
Tool-Assisted Speedruns are pretty interesting, though they don't typically have leaderboards of their own because it's a more collaborative than competitive hobby. Everyone's trying to find the perfect, unbeatable time and they often work together to do so. Everyone is iterating on everyone else's work, since they usually share the files publicly so others can pick it up and make improvements. And sometimes a TAS run can help improve regular speedrunners' times as they can find new shortcuts or exploits to take advantage of, so in the end, everybody wins. Unless someone lies and puts a TAS run on a non-TAS leaderboard, of course.
Getting an astrophysicist to do statistics for you is just as ridiculous as getting a group of Engineers to do your taxes, sure they can most likely do it, but it's not their specialty, they work with different fields of mathematics the majority of the time.
Don't read too much into it. Most likely just a friend/associate of his who he knows is good with math, and they happen to be an astrophysicist. You really think he went out and said "I need to hire an astrophysicist to solve this issue"? Lol of course not. It's just convenient to add to his statement to give credibility to his arguments. If he just said "I got my friend who is good with math to look into the case" that would hold far less potency than saying "I hired an astro physicist". A lot of people in the deep end of Minecraft community are scientists/physicists (just look at the SciCraft server), so the chance that Dream knows someone in the Minecraft community who happens to be an astro physicist isnt unlikely.
not if you're at minimum an average player or better. This is an issue if you have a medical condition of hand twitching, the force is so tiny that you wouldn't affect a mouse at all unless you're actively clicking with the force of a 100 spartans. Especially not a high rated pro player/streamer. No chance in hell.
11:34... i don't use "space bar" but i do use left alt as a secondary bind so i can spam the button while clicking the mouse so i can "shoot" faster...
For context for the PUBG mobile clip, some countries have a much higher mobile game market because when living wages are low, a dedicated gaming PC or console is too specialized a purchase compared to a high-end smartphone, which has much more utility per cost.
exactly this in my country too. while not everybody can get a gaming pc, a large majority can get a good enough smartphone, either to play mobile ver game with their friends or join their fav streamers
Didn’t expect to hear carlsagan42 name I always enjoy his Mario Maker videos. I forgot he talked about that before when he was talking about speed runs during one of his videos.
11:35 When you click with your mouse, you tighten your grip on the mouse, which can make aim worse. That's why osu players don't click with their mouse but click on the keyboard when aiming with mouse.
The Age of Empires cheats were god tier. I myself at the age of 7 would play legit for 45min only to type in the cheats once I reached the end game because I couldn't keep up with the AI producing so many units. Good times.
The thing about tas is they use timesaving methods that are mechanically possible aren’t possible for a human to do which is usually what gives people away
I used to use money drop, and some flying car and speed car hacks in gta online. But that's before they put a lot more fun crap in there. I also used to use my spacebar to shoot, and left mouse button to jump. it was because my aim would be more stable. Now though I just use the left mouse to shoot.
11:31 - Who uses Space Bar to shoot?! I don't, but I change my Right Button to Left ALT because I play games using my Wacom Tablet and Keyboard, so.. yeah, more accessible to me.
24:10 These runs are categorized by the version, there's no Minecraft Update that changes his cheats. No, it was one of the mods he installed, that were supposedly made to help him stream, the developer put something in to help in that direction, but that was neither part of the commission, nor was it able to affect the gameplay on a server, where he would stream his content from. His last apology explains all that, and that if he would reveal the identity of this developer, the fact he put something into the mod that was not requested for, would end his career as a software developer entirely. But of course, the anti-Dream stans don't believe that and think it was Dream with full intention of cheating, like the narrative in that video.
Even a developer that don't know anything about Minecraft code had an argument with me, accusing me of being a Dream stan. (at the time of the accusation, I was confused of what a Dream stan is) He thought the drop chances are stored in a random XML file inside the game, my reply was that it is not true, the drop chances can be modified with a data pack, even. The file paths are data/minecraft/loot_tables/gameplay/piglin_bartering and data/minecraft/loot_tables/entities/blaze. I believe that guy learned that day, if he's going to start making assumptions to a Map Builder, he's to make the research first. (the wiki explains a lot of those things alone)
About the charity event cheating, I honestly don't care if its for charity or just a regular match or whatever the fuck. There is not a blurred line with cheating. Either you are cheating, or you aren't. And willful cheating (as in discussing the plan to cheat pre-game) is just as bad as hardlock spinbotting. You're breaking the given rules intentionally to gain an unfair advantage, thus you should be banned forever. Zero sympathy, zero tolerance. Cheaters no matter the type, all need to be removed from this earth. Ban his ass forever from multiplayer games.
Honestly I installed hacks into my brain to auto kick me from the lobby whenever I'm fighting a 6 stack clan thats treating the casual lobby as their raid ground.
the funny thing about the dream run thing is that the odds are possible to get its just very unlikely i play some rng games on roblox where people have gotten 1 in a trillion odds things and the highest someone has gotten was in the sextillion range which is just they dont have luck for the rest of there life at that point XD
Single player cheats that have no effect on anyone else are the only cheats I use. And 99% of the time I am only using them in RTS games to have absolutely MASSIVE battles between myself and AI since the cheats I use also effect the bots. I find it idiotic that someone would cheat in a multiplayer game just because they suck. I'm a casual gamer. I play through the game normally and THEN and only then. Will I use cheats through other playthroughs to see what kind of shenanigans I can do Edit: I should say that the game I use cheats on the most is Star Wars: Empire at War. I just try to make my own stories by using mods and cheats. I have already beaten the base game and the expansion normally before putting mods or using cheats
In single player in the old gta, who has never spawned a tank lies. Anyone who has never once gone creative in minecraft is also lying. Sometimes if you're not in an online game, so you're playing on your own, you enjoy cheating. Not online. People go online to have fun. A hacker destroys other people's entertainment in order to "have fun". Cheating in a single player game is "just" losing a challenge against yourself, if you play a game seriously. Anyone who cheats in speedruns loses not only against themselves, but also against all people who have a legitimate speedrun.
Tbf, if you use space bar to to shoot, it makes your sim better (for some people) It’s like how some osu! mouse players use only keyboard buttons to tap to increase their acc
I used to run a COD4 server for my friends and I. The fun part of being the owner of the server is being able to specify a time when all hell can break loose. Everyone got to play with wall hacks and it got very busy trying to get it back into a normal place after someone turns on a aim assisting wall ignoring one and everyone got salty and the game went from fun to who has the best PC to compete in latency with aims
Shooting with space is actually a thing specially if you have disabilities because it doesn't throw your aim off when you flex your finger to shoot with mouse 1.
I actually did cheat in one multiplayer game, and I'll be dating myself by admitting it, but it was the UT2004 beta demo. I would never have done so were I not to have been offered by a friend at the time, but curiosity got the better of me. At first I just used brightskins (before that was invented legitimately) but I did end up using aimbot and radar a few times. Mostly on a private server with friends where I was open about it (we turned it into a game of them trying to kill me), but also once or twice in publics under an alias. Mostly because most other people I saw who used cheats were terrible at the game to the extent of seeming lobotomised, so I was curious how unfair it would be if someone half decent did so. I got it all out of my system pretty quickly. By the time the full game was released I'd already stopped using them, and I never touched any other form of cheat since. Had plenty of hackusations over the years, but ironically my limited prior experiences gave me a good idea of when other players weren't legit. The landscape and scope has completely changed nowadays though, both in terms of what's at stake, and the extent that people will go to. The cheats themselves are a lot more sophisticated now too. Despite me now being a working adult I don't even cheat in single player games anymore, I figure if I don't have the time or the inclination to achieve something then that's my problem. Besides, the sense of fulfilment you get from witnessing your own progression far outstrips any cheap thrills there might be in taking shortcuts, at least in my opinion.
Cod is such a scuffed game anyway though, several maps on my computer don't render properly allot of the time. Like cod cold wars satilite the whole mountain sometimes won't render in so you can just see through it. I can't fix it no matter what I tried I even reinstalled the game 6 times, checked for courupted files and looked up many options. Trash game just doesn't work. I know it has to happen to other players cause kill cams show the mountain and people will shoot it and follow me through to the opening.
I've played a lot of games, but the only one I've done cheats with is The Sims 😂 I don't cheat other one player games, and I would never even try to cheat during multi-player games it wouldn't be fun, and it would ruined the game itself to me.
I cheat all the time in games, offline single player ones, after I either beat it once, or if it's a bad game and I just wanna mess with it with mods on top of cheats.
The only cheats I've used were a GameShark for "Sonic Advance" that I used to get all yhe fancy chao eggs; and using an Action Replay for Pokemon Diamond to get shiny legendaries. Never cheated in Multiplayer. But always catch some accusations from salty gamers.
The Dream one had me disappointed. Genuinely thought we may have found that lucky lotto number in Dream and people might have just made a biased decision against him. People generally think extremely low, astronomical odds are just plain impossible, that they literally cannot happen. People tend to forget, that probability represents a "chance" of something happening, not a certainty of something happening or not happening. You could be that lucky, or unlucky, person who gets that manuscript of a perfectly legable copy of shakespear's fine works as written by a chimp ala random key typing. It is a possibility, no matter how improbable. Heck, the odds of us existing at all is 1 in 10^2,685,000, but we do in fact exist.
Nickeh30 did what's knows as a tactical foul in sports. It's entirely within the rules, in a sense, and something to be expected. It is pretty bad sportsmanship though, especially for a freakin' charity match.
i mean dream wasn't rising to fame through speedrunning, he was dping that too, but his content on youtube surrounds being good at the game - and the "cheats" he had were not for speedrunning but the challenges with his friends where everyone knows that they're running in the background so the content can evolve around what is happing and doesn't hit an end when the luck is too bad... so their phrasing was very off, that he had those installed was not like malicious and trying to cheat but using it to produce content better where that does not matter that he didn't turn it off before actually speedrunning is of course bad and shouldn't happen and he should have clarified that waaay earlier without all the drama (and I think he actually wanted the drama so he gets more popularity)
Here is my opinion. Using programs and bots in game constitutes as cheating. However if there are exploits that can be used by making use of existing bugs/glitches in the game I say that it does not fall under the category of cheating. I come from a generation where there was a time when multi-player games (pre-internet and very early internet) games would be released with bugs. Sometimes people made use of bugs to get the upper hand. And people just had to learn about the bugs to make use of them or to learn how to counter them. ANd funny enough back then every bug/glitch someone tried to exploit always had someone eventually finding a way to counter it. To me little things like making use of glitches in game added to the dynamics. However I can agree that people who purposely modded their PC/console and game to try to actually reprogram the game via code are dirty cheaters and deserve to get banned/have their console or PC bricked.
It's all about intention - and also the fact that multiplayer and single player cheating are two different things. So for this case, lets only talk multiplayer, as the entire point is a fair playing field. If you make use of in-game glitches and unintended behavior willfully, then you are by definition of pretty much any esports TOS a cheater. If you are able to clip through map geometry and use it to your advantage, and you actively pursue this advantage, then it is grounds for banning on par with having cheat software running your gameplay. Take Overwatch as an example: If you can place a turret inside a map geometry where it can't be destroyed, and you don't do it by sheer accident, then it is grounds for a ban on par with cheating. If people make you aware of your turret being inside map geometry and you don't destroy it yourself, you will be considered a cheater/glitch abuser. Same with CS if you can clip through a suppsed unclippable map geometry, then it is cheating. There is no grey zone here. Accidental glitch abuse is accidental and happens from time to time. Abusing glitches knowingly, is cheating.
@@Real_MisterSir Yes but you are looking at modern TOS agreements. Which I find is bullshit. When there is a glitch and clipping instead ofbanning, the devs are expected to patch it right away. In early internet days when bugs and glitches were found, server would go down and be patched. Go back a bit farther during the days of non internet usage when TOS was not a thing, you just had either wait for a version 2 of the game to come out or get around it. For instance let's take glitches that take advantage of cool down times. IN Halo there is the energy rifle that had a cool down time after firing it, but under certain circumstangces and if you could time it right (knowing how long to count, know how to watch for frames ect) you could pull off consecutive firing or at least the appearance of consecutive firing. The clipping issue you talk of shouldn't be put on the player's side. If the clipping is bad enough and plainly obvious to the player, it should be the dev's responsibility to shut down that map and patch the damn game. Maybe it's just a difference of ideas and how separated I am from the modern gamer.I remember playing CIV the original command and conquer, battlefield 1942 and the original halo. I find that modern TOS is against the player when it comes to glitches. NOw I wil agree that if someone is actively and knownllyusing glitches but using 3rd party software to assist in making use of said glitches i deserves a ban. But that's a whole different subject than just making use of a glitch with your controller. If a glitch is so game breaking to give an unfair advantage to the player, rather than deserve a ban, it should get patched. Espescially with modern day games where devs are able to apply patches at the drop of a hat. (No literally but it's 100x easier than 18 years ago). Maybe I'm just a boomer behind the times and think people bitch too much in multiplayer. I remember people didn't used to try to doxx each other if they got their ass handed to in an online match just because of salt. There is a very clear line between cheating and not cheating. But the definition and circumstances that constitutes cheating has changed over the past 20+ years in video games. I know one genere though of games that still has the attitude of "Get good or get out" motto. And that is fighting games. It's brutal. But the player HAS to learn about the game, even the flaws. And if the flaw is so bad, the dev fixes it. FPS is not the same but there was a similar motto back in the day. But yeah what do I know. I'm just an old foggy left behind in the times of change.
@@Haiyami There is no such thing as "devs are expected to patch it right away". That entirely depends on how much resources they're receiving to maintain patches and where their focus lies. The core basis is that any glitch, regardless of when it was discovered, will be considered glitch abuse (aka cheating) if you knowingly use it to gain an unfair advantage. This is nothing new, difference is just that modern games are far more complex than games 10+ years ago so it's much harder to patch out everything immediately when discovered. And you can never fully patch everything, there will always be some elements of a videogame that are inherently broken, its all about how well these glitch points are masked so they don't affect common gameplay scenarios. We also have to establish a hard line here, as the example you bring up with the cooldown timing in Halo is not the same. Glitch abuse (unless directly stated otherwise) specifically refers to abusing glitches that are uniquely available to you / situational. A weapon glitch is typically available to everyone, as everyone tend to have the ability to gain access to the same weapons. Here it instead refers to "unintended game mechanic" that is allowed until patched out - and sometimes devs accept these unintended game mechanics if they add value to the skill ceiling of the game without breaking the fundamental gameplay experience (Overwatch is a great example of this, as is bhop in CS etc). However, if there is a certain part of a map that allows you to glitch through it and shoot while invulnerable - or do something else that actively puts you at an unbalanced gameplay advantage where the enemy can't fight you fairly, that is glitch abuse. The glitch abuse prevention aspect is of course, as you say, only really a thing in more modern titles that receive online updates - whereas old titles were shipped as-is, and typically fixes to glitches would come through dlc packages instead, or direct sequels. But counter strike is still a good example where the concept of glitch abuse going against TOS has been a thing since the first games launched, and was so for most pc-based competitive online titles as well as rts games etc. It wasn't as frequently enforced back then, but thats another topic entirely.
I don't see the point in cheating in pvp. You can have fun with cheats in singleplayer or even help players in co-op vs cpu (ike the zombie survival, i enjoyed A LOT when a player spammed weapons for us to use). I'd like to see them immediately banned mid-game in pvp/competitive modes.
To be fair in the Dream case (Not a Dream Stan, i just watch some of his vids) Dream technically wasn't a Speedrunner, most of his videos were Manhunt videos where he gets hunted by some of his friends who try to kill him, while he himself tries to finish the game. He did come out and said he had a Plugin to increase the odds of multiple things so the Vids weren't him trying to get Blaze Rods and Ender Pearls for an hour. And honestly we're talking Minecraft Java-Edition here. We give Skyrim shit about being bugged but the only thing that is more bugged than Minecraft Java-Edition is Minecraft Bedrock-Edition (hence it's community given name: Minecraft Bugrock-Edition)
I think what is the more damning evidence is that he denied the claims for so long and hired an astrophysicist to prove he didn't cheat. He could easily have looked at his files to verify he did or didn't cheat and apologize to the community. His adamant refusal actually proved to be more of a solid proof of his deliberate guilt. He also submitted his run to the official speedrunner leader board, which made him subject to the speedrunner rules. The best course of action would have been to immediately admit the accident and apologize, which he had every capable chance of realizing by just checking which mods he had active. He took months to realize he had a cheat mod "accidentally" active. Either Dream is a complete idiot or he cheated and was trying to get away with it. I'll leave you to decide which is which.
Dream was definitely a speed runner, he was doing speedruns, posting them on the official speedrun website as legitimate runs, so that makes him a speedrunner. The controversy wasn’t about his Manhunt vids, although speculation came about because off the controversy, it was about him posting cheated runs as real and denying it, hiring an astrophysicist to try and prove his innocence, only to coincidentally months later find the cheats “hidden” in his files. Never found them until basically everyone already believed he was cheating then suddenly found them, makes it look like if more people believed him we wouldn’t have found out at all, very strange indeed.
11:40 - #1 - old games had less bottoms to command so you can use space instead of mouse key, today its not possible because you need space to jump or crotch depends on the player preference, modern games i play with controller and old games with mouse and keyboard
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i have used single player cheats and i am still sad that single player games stopped making cheats for their games so you can make a play thru in any way you want WC3 campaign whit thousands off units dieing thru out the campaign is fun
If you have pc learn to use cheat engine it helps
@@JDOGGOKUSSJ2 yes, especially in Plants vs Zombies
True.
Especially GTA 3D era who Always had it's Cheat Code Charm which can cause many chaotic and funs.
@@JDOGGOKUSSJ2 WeMod is good for most games. I have yet to have any problems with it, but use at your own risk.
Only cheats I use are on older games where they unlocked after you beat the game, or in saints row games cuz some are hilarious
Man Clara is such a menace, stealthily installing hax on all these poor streamers rigs
One of the reasons why I think Dream "cheating" was so big was because of the drama that came from it.
Definitely, especially the harassment of the mods and misconstruing of evidence
@@jdman2210 also months after it happened he just apparently found his mods?
@@tnc7399 with how minecraft keeps mods(general folder structure) and probably those were mods for the manhunt videos(to make them more watchable/expedious) I'm not gonna be too surprised if some mods were not cleanly removed. Hence why his other speedruns might have been illegitimate too.
@@dracmeister post 1.16 probably because he has said he hated the new nether for speedrunning.
@@dracmeister i think this was somewhat claimed to be the case by one of the devs or something of the modpacks he uses for his manhunt or other non speedrunning videos...i think it was KiraTV who made a nicely explained video on it after reaching out to Dream and trying to state things as objectively as he could
the dream cheating drama wouldn't of been so big if he just admitted to it when he was first called out, but he instead double downed for months
Cheating in multiplayer games is just scummy. If you want to do that in a single player game for your own enjoyment, go ahead, I’ve done that for a single player campaign of EU4 to see how a OP Switzerland with guns fights the world in 1444. Cheats are only ever ok in single player, never ever ruin other people’s games
UNLESS its in a private match with friends
@@karisasani7006 Depends on the cheats. Like I feel that when it gets to be a private match it’s more-so being called “modding” than cheating yk
Oddly enough, I also hit space to shoot. I can't time it right and sometimes move the mouse as I click, otherwise.
Dream admitted after months of waiting for everyone to forget. After he basically sent harassment to the moderation team and brought a huge divide in the community. He somehow got away because of his stans. He just happened to forget about them
"Mods get rid of *busdriver* please thank you" an instant ice cold response
I've cheated in single player games. But in multiplayer games, heck no, never will.
"I used the SPACEBAR to shoot." is like having a girlfriend in Canada in middle school.
it helps a lot if you gave Shakey hands or need to be accurate because pressing spacebar dose not move the mouse at all
Last time I cheated was when I was like 13 playing Dead Island and I gave myself infinite ammo, with cheat engine.
Made the game more enjoyable for me since I was too dumb to both bother with and enjoy the strategy of resource management.
The only cheats I’ve ever used were on the 2005 Battlefront 2 that were in the game’s single player. Mostly just the invincibility cheat code because that one is burned into my memory.
There is a technique of using keyboard to fire to avoid your hand "recoiling" when you press the mouse-button. Most people just train away the spasm, but some opt to use the keyboard to fire.
this is pure bs, literally every pro player in every fps game in the world uses m1 to shoot. If your problem is a twitchy hand then you need medical assistance not a spacebar rebind.
@@Real_MisterSir No shit sherlock, they're fucking PROS!!
And we're not talking about parkingsons here, typically with vigorous fingermotions there's an accompanying hand motion that typically isn't detectable but in a precision situation in an FPS game...
@@eddebrock I say pros as an example because the person claiming to use spacebar is a high-rated streamer with pro-like skills, and you don't reach that level by having to use spacebar to shoot - not in a game like this. From the average player, less than 1% uses spacebar for anything other than jumping regardless of game. It's bs and if you don't understand the context then that's on you.
I'm sorry, but if your trigger finger is so weak that your hand spasms when trying to exert a FEW OUNCES of downward pressure, you need help. I have never heard such BS before in my life.
Not saying it can't happen, but people pull 9+ pound triggers all the time and do so accurately with the same finger.
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Here is a idea for a Nagzz react series. What if we do a segment/video where Nagzz reacts to epic/funny moments that we the community have had in games and we send them to him? Just a thought.
Tool-Assisted Speedruns are pretty interesting, though they don't typically have leaderboards of their own because it's a more collaborative than competitive hobby. Everyone's trying to find the perfect, unbeatable time and they often work together to do so. Everyone is iterating on everyone else's work, since they usually share the files publicly so others can pick it up and make improvements. And sometimes a TAS run can help improve regular speedrunners' times as they can find new shortcuts or exploits to take advantage of, so in the end, everybody wins.
Unless someone lies and puts a TAS run on a non-TAS leaderboard, of course.
1:21 the _"who?"_ was perfect XD
Getting an astrophysicist to do statistics for you is just as ridiculous as getting a group of Engineers to do your taxes, sure they can most likely do it, but it's not their specialty, they work with different fields of mathematics the majority of the time.
Don't read too much into it. Most likely just a friend/associate of his who he knows is good with math, and they happen to be an astrophysicist. You really think he went out and said "I need to hire an astrophysicist to solve this issue"? Lol of course not. It's just convenient to add to his statement to give credibility to his arguments. If he just said "I got my friend who is good with math to look into the case" that would hold far less potency than saying "I hired an astro physicist". A lot of people in the deep end of Minecraft community are scientists/physicists (just look at the SciCraft server), so the chance that Dream knows someone in the Minecraft community who happens to be an astro physicist isnt unlikely.
Space bar for shooting is a thing as pushing down the MB1 apply downward foce, which make it harder to control the mouse
not if you're at minimum an average player or better. This is an issue if you have a medical condition of hand twitching, the force is so tiny that you wouldn't affect a mouse at all unless you're actively clicking with the force of a 100 spartans. Especially not a high rated pro player/streamer. No chance in hell.
The Charity one was them pretty much standing outside the bubble that shrinks and damages you so i can see why they didn't get punished
11:34... i don't use "space bar" but i do use left alt as a secondary bind so i can spam the button while clicking the mouse so i can "shoot" faster...
That sounds like multitasking.
For context for the PUBG mobile clip, some countries have a much higher mobile game market because when living wages are low, a dedicated gaming PC or console is too specialized a purchase compared to a high-end smartphone, which has much more utility per cost.
exactly this in my country too. while not everybody can get a gaming pc, a large majority can get a good enough smartphone, either to play mobile ver game with their friends or join their fav streamers
yep and considering she's Indian it makes sense, PUBG Mobile is massive in India.
15:52 Wow, she didn't even try to hide her reaction...
Ive never cheated on multiplayer, but I have cheated on a bunch of single player games
Didn’t expect to hear carlsagan42 name I always enjoy his Mario Maker videos. I forgot he talked about that before when he was talking about speed runs during one of his videos.
11:35 When you click with your mouse, you tighten your grip on the mouse, which can make aim worse.
That's why osu players don't click with their mouse but click on the keyboard when aiming with mouse.
I actualy did try using spacebar to shot in an FPS before. I personaly didn't like it but, I don't see why not do it.
I cheated in Age of Empire, the Cobra car and the baby were my favorites, and you always need a tank in the middle of the road in GTA
The Age of Empires cheats were god tier. I myself at the age of 7 would play legit for 45min only to type in the cheats once I reached the end game because I couldn't keep up with the AI producing so many units. Good times.
The cheats in Age of Mythology were pretty fun
Wait, was that the "How do you turn?" text or am I mixing up games again? I'd swear there was something for Total Annihilation: Kingdoms as well.
He need to do more of this
The thing about tas is they use timesaving methods that are mechanically possible aren’t possible for a human to do which is usually what gives people away
I've used spacebar when my mouse broke and I couldn't afford a new one
I used to use money drop, and some flying car and speed car hacks in gta online. But that's before they put a lot more fun crap in there. I also used to use my spacebar to shoot, and left mouse button to jump. it was because my aim would be more stable. Now though I just use the left mouse to shoot.
11:31 - Who uses Space Bar to shoot?!
I don't, but I change my Right Button to Left ALT because I play games using my Wacom Tablet and Keyboard, so.. yeah, more accessible to me.
TLDR; dont cheat
5:25 That comment in the original video was wrong.
The game capture doesn't capture overlays.
The screen capture does capture overlays.
I can't help but use exploits in video games once I know them, like with Skyrim, even if I start out trying not to do it
Remember when cheating meant having Big Head Mode on?
I remember running into my first scripter in LoL (I was playing ez) and holy shit that crap is infuriating
24:10 These runs are categorized by the version, there's no Minecraft Update that changes his cheats.
No, it was one of the mods he installed, that were supposedly made to help him stream, the developer put something in to help in that direction, but that was neither part of the commission, nor was it able to affect the gameplay on a server, where he would stream his content from. His last apology explains all that, and that if he would reveal the identity of this developer, the fact he put something into the mod that was not requested for, would end his career as a software developer entirely. But of course, the anti-Dream stans don't believe that and think it was Dream with full intention of cheating, like the narrative in that video.
Even a developer that don't know anything about Minecraft code had an argument with me, accusing me of being a Dream stan. (at the time of the accusation, I was confused of what a Dream stan is)
He thought the drop chances are stored in a random XML file inside the game, my reply was that it is not true, the drop chances can be modified with a data pack, even.
The file paths are data/minecraft/loot_tables/gameplay/piglin_bartering and data/minecraft/loot_tables/entities/blaze.
I believe that guy learned that day, if he's going to start making assumptions to a Map Builder, he's to make the research first. (the wiki explains a lot of those things alone)
About the charity event cheating, I honestly don't care if its for charity or just a regular match or whatever the fuck. There is not a blurred line with cheating. Either you are cheating, or you aren't. And willful cheating (as in discussing the plan to cheat pre-game) is just as bad as hardlock spinbotting. You're breaking the given rules intentionally to gain an unfair advantage, thus you should be banned forever. Zero sympathy, zero tolerance. Cheaters no matter the type, all need to be removed from this earth.
Ban his ass forever from multiplayer games.
Why are some segments cut off?
Like at the end for example
an ad happened to my screen at 13:48.
Honestly I installed hacks into my brain to auto kick me from the lobby whenever I'm fighting a 6 stack clan thats treating the casual lobby as their raid ground.
Cin is a scaly. He told me himself, this isn’t slander. Cranky can vouch.
the funny thing about the dream run thing is that the odds are possible to get its just very unlikely i play some rng games on roblox where people have gotten 1 in a trillion odds things and the highest someone has gotten was in the sextillion range which is just they dont have luck for the rest of there life at that point XD
XQCheats XQCopium XQCuses lol. Jokes aside, the schadenfreude is strong with these clips
I honestly dont understand why people use aimbot. 1- Its easy to detect and 2- you arent even playing, its the bot that aims for you. You just walk.
Clara is back at it again.
I cheated in Total War Campaigns by disabling AI cheats with mods
Single player cheats that have no effect on anyone else are the only cheats I use. And 99% of the time I am only using them in RTS games to have absolutely MASSIVE battles between myself and AI since the cheats I use also effect the bots. I find it idiotic that someone would cheat in a multiplayer game just because they suck. I'm a casual gamer. I play through the game normally and THEN and only then. Will I use cheats through other playthroughs to see what kind of shenanigans I can do
Edit: I should say that the game I use cheats on the most is Star Wars: Empire at War. I just try to make my own stories by using mods and cheats. I have already beaten the base game and the expansion normally before putting mods or using cheats
oh... no about trackmania giga cheating scandal) cant wait for it))
In single player in the old gta, who has never spawned a tank lies. Anyone who has never once gone creative in minecraft is also lying. Sometimes if you're not in an online game, so you're playing on your own, you enjoy cheating. Not online. People go online to have fun. A hacker destroys other people's entertainment in order to "have fun". Cheating in a single player game is "just" losing a challenge against yourself, if you play a game seriously. Anyone who cheats in speedruns loses not only against themselves, but also against all people who have a legitimate speedrun.
Tbf, if you use space bar to to shoot, it makes your sim better (for some people)
It’s like how some osu! mouse players use only keyboard buttons to tap to increase their acc
I used to run a COD4 server for my friends and I. The fun part of being the owner of the server is being able to specify a time when all hell can break loose. Everyone got to play with wall hacks and it got very busy trying to get it back into a normal place after someone turns on a aim assisting wall ignoring one and everyone got salty and the game went from fun to who has the best PC to compete in latency with aims
Shooting with space is actually a thing specially if you have disabilities because it doesn't throw your aim off when you flex your finger to shoot with mouse 1.
Bro I remember using cheats in spider man on ps1. Good Times
Spiderman 2: Enter: Electro... I remember unlocking all the suits and tearing through the game with invisibility, infinite web and other fun stuff.
I think cheating in other games is often neglected or ignored as an example pokemon but I won’t call out anyone cause I don’t want an argument
I cheated to... I cheated my waifu game with another waifu game
I actually did cheat in one multiplayer game, and I'll be dating myself by admitting it, but it was the UT2004 beta demo. I would never have done so were I not to have been offered by a friend at the time, but curiosity got the better of me. At first I just used brightskins (before that was invented legitimately) but I did end up using aimbot and radar a few times. Mostly on a private server with friends where I was open about it (we turned it into a game of them trying to kill me), but also once or twice in publics under an alias. Mostly because most other people I saw who used cheats were terrible at the game to the extent of seeming lobotomised, so I was curious how unfair it would be if someone half decent did so. I got it all out of my system pretty quickly.
By the time the full game was released I'd already stopped using them, and I never touched any other form of cheat since. Had plenty of hackusations over the years, but ironically my limited prior experiences gave me a good idea of when other players weren't legit. The landscape and scope has completely changed nowadays though, both in terms of what's at stake, and the extent that people will go to. The cheats themselves are a lot more sophisticated now too. Despite me now being a working adult I don't even cheat in single player games anymore, I figure if I don't have the time or the inclination to achieve something then that's my problem. Besides, the sense of fulfilment you get from witnessing your own progression far outstrips any cheap thrills there might be in taking shortcuts, at least in my opinion.
Cod is such a scuffed game anyway though, several maps on my computer don't render properly allot of the time. Like cod cold wars satilite the whole mountain sometimes won't render in so you can just see through it. I can't fix it no matter what I tried I even reinstalled the game 6 times, checked for courupted files and looked up many options. Trash game just doesn't work. I know it has to happen to other players cause kill cams show the mountain and people will shoot it and follow me through to the opening.
I love cheating speedrunners that go out of their way to cheat and only get 5th place.
Video ended a bit too abruptly
I've played a lot of games, but the only one I've done cheats with is The Sims 😂
I don't cheat other one player games, and I would never even try to cheat during multi-player games it wouldn't be fun, and it would ruined the game itself to me.
I cheat all the time in games, offline single player ones, after I either beat it once, or if it's a bad game and I just wanna mess with it with mods on top of cheats.
i cheat playing games where i remember every place i hide my thing 😂
Clara is mother of all cheaters
My streamer
Only cheats i used were singleplayer. Like GTA San Andreas.
fun fact that in cod multiplayer not the br -- cheaters still suck ...
I only cheated in single player games before online gaming. gameshark LOL
Nagzz, you ought to take a look at ScriptKids' channel. Cheaters getting retribution with absolute hilarity. You have to see it to believe it
Stardew valley I use mods to cheat like obviously I have proper games but sometimes I just want to do things differently
Heh, Cpt.Baldy.
NagU
For those people who uses spacebar to fire...
What do you use to jump then?
Mouse wheel down probably, I fire with mouse though.
@@komyuta2556
scroll down to jump!?
DAFAQ!? 😆
@@boingboingresearcherph.d.2871 That's actually a common thing people do in higher elo lobbies, in games like apex.
I don't use it for shooting, but is anyone else in spacebar-to-aim gang?
If you haven't already you should check out Karl Jobst's video about the guy that cheated for money on Clone Hero.
The only cheats I've used were a GameShark for "Sonic Advance" that I used to get all yhe fancy chao eggs; and using an Action Replay for Pokemon Diamond to get shiny legendaries. Never cheated in Multiplayer. But always catch some accusations from salty gamers.
The Dream one had me disappointed. Genuinely thought we may have found that lucky lotto number in Dream and people might have just made a biased decision against him. People generally think extremely low, astronomical odds are just plain impossible, that they literally cannot happen. People tend to forget, that probability represents a "chance" of something happening, not a certainty of something happening or not happening. You could be that lucky, or unlucky, person who gets that manuscript of a perfectly legable copy of shakespear's fine works as written by a chimp ala random key typing. It is a possibility, no matter how improbable.
Heck, the odds of us existing at all is 1 in 10^2,685,000, but we do in fact exist.
Did Claira fuck up on the editing the last bit was a harsh cut
I will cheat on single player games but multiplayer games it would ruin the game for everyone.
GODDAMN IT! CLARA STRIKES AGAIN WITH HER HACKS!!
Do cheat codes count? If not then no, I've never cheated in a game
Intentional cheats left behind by the developers? Go have a blast, mate.
Number 1:
*ProJared*
Nickeh30 did what's knows as a tactical foul in sports. It's entirely within the rules, in a sense, and something to be expected.
It is pretty bad sportsmanship though, especially for a freakin' charity match.
you ever see the video of Script Kid or whatever. he makes Bate cheat software and gets game replays of what happened in the cheater's games
i mean dream wasn't rising to fame through speedrunning, he was dping that too, but his content on youtube surrounds being good at the game - and the "cheats" he had were not for speedrunning but the challenges with his friends where everyone knows that they're running in the background so the content can evolve around what is happing and doesn't hit an end when the luck is too bad... so their phrasing was very off, that he had those installed was not like malicious and trying to cheat but using it to produce content better where that does not matter
that he didn't turn it off before actually speedrunning is of course bad and shouldn't happen and he should have clarified that waaay earlier without all the drama (and I think he actually wanted the drama so he gets more popularity)
Dream inrentionally cheated. You don't just have mods oopsie daisey'd into a fresh vanilla install, that's beyond negligence.
I have never cheated in a multi player game ever. I have cheated alot in single player games hell I cheated on rimworld just before watching this.
nice.
Here is my opinion. Using programs and bots in game constitutes as cheating. However if there are exploits that can be used by making use of existing bugs/glitches in the game I say that it does not fall under the category of cheating. I come from a generation where there was a time when multi-player games (pre-internet and very early internet) games would be released with bugs. Sometimes people made use of bugs to get the upper hand. And people just had to learn about the bugs to make use of them or to learn how to counter them. ANd funny enough back then every bug/glitch someone tried to exploit always had someone eventually finding a way to counter it. To me little things like making use of glitches in game added to the dynamics. However I can agree that people who purposely modded their PC/console and game to try to actually reprogram the game via code are dirty cheaters and deserve to get banned/have their console or PC bricked.
It's all about intention - and also the fact that multiplayer and single player cheating are two different things. So for this case, lets only talk multiplayer, as the entire point is a fair playing field.
If you make use of in-game glitches and unintended behavior willfully, then you are by definition of pretty much any esports TOS a cheater. If you are able to clip through map geometry and use it to your advantage, and you actively pursue this advantage, then it is grounds for banning on par with having cheat software running your gameplay.
Take Overwatch as an example: If you can place a turret inside a map geometry where it can't be destroyed, and you don't do it by sheer accident, then it is grounds for a ban on par with cheating. If people make you aware of your turret being inside map geometry and you don't destroy it yourself, you will be considered a cheater/glitch abuser. Same with CS if you can clip through a suppsed unclippable map geometry, then it is cheating. There is no grey zone here. Accidental glitch abuse is accidental and happens from time to time. Abusing glitches knowingly, is cheating.
@@Real_MisterSir Yes but you are looking at modern TOS agreements. Which I find is bullshit. When there is a glitch and clipping instead ofbanning, the devs are expected to patch it right away. In early internet days when bugs and glitches were found, server would go down and be patched. Go back a bit farther during the days of non internet usage when TOS was not a thing, you just had either wait for a version 2 of the game to come out or get around it. For instance let's take glitches that take advantage of cool down times. IN Halo there is the energy rifle that had a cool down time after firing it, but under certain circumstangces and if you could time it right (knowing how long to count, know how to watch for frames ect) you could pull off consecutive firing or at least the appearance of consecutive firing. The clipping issue you talk of shouldn't be put on the player's side. If the clipping is bad enough and plainly obvious to the player, it should be the dev's responsibility to shut down that map and patch the damn game. Maybe it's just a difference of ideas and how separated I am from the modern gamer.I remember playing CIV the original command and conquer, battlefield 1942 and the original halo. I find that modern TOS is against the player when it comes to glitches. NOw I wil agree that if someone is actively and knownllyusing glitches but using 3rd party software to assist in making use of said glitches i deserves a ban. But that's a whole different subject than just making use of a glitch with your controller. If a glitch is so game breaking to give an unfair advantage to the player, rather than deserve a ban, it should get patched. Espescially with modern day games where devs are able to apply patches at the drop of a hat. (No literally but it's 100x easier than 18 years ago). Maybe I'm just a boomer behind the times and think people bitch too much in multiplayer. I remember people didn't used to try to doxx each other if they got their ass handed to in an online match just because of salt. There is a very clear line between cheating and not cheating. But the definition and circumstances that constitutes cheating has changed over the past 20+ years in video games. I know one genere though of games that still has the attitude of "Get good or get out" motto. And that is fighting games. It's brutal. But the player HAS to learn about the game, even the flaws. And if the flaw is so bad, the dev fixes it. FPS is not the same but there was a similar motto back in the day. But yeah what do I know. I'm just an old foggy left behind in the times of change.
@@Haiyami There is no such thing as "devs are expected to patch it right away". That entirely depends on how much resources they're receiving to maintain patches and where their focus lies. The core basis is that any glitch, regardless of when it was discovered, will be considered glitch abuse (aka cheating) if you knowingly use it to gain an unfair advantage.
This is nothing new, difference is just that modern games are far more complex than games 10+ years ago so it's much harder to patch out everything immediately when discovered. And you can never fully patch everything, there will always be some elements of a videogame that are inherently broken, its all about how well these glitch points are masked so they don't affect common gameplay scenarios.
We also have to establish a hard line here, as the example you bring up with the cooldown timing in Halo is not the same. Glitch abuse (unless directly stated otherwise) specifically refers to abusing glitches that are uniquely available to you / situational. A weapon glitch is typically available to everyone, as everyone tend to have the ability to gain access to the same weapons. Here it instead refers to "unintended game mechanic" that is allowed until patched out - and sometimes devs accept these unintended game mechanics if they add value to the skill ceiling of the game without breaking the fundamental gameplay experience (Overwatch is a great example of this, as is bhop in CS etc).
However, if there is a certain part of a map that allows you to glitch through it and shoot while invulnerable - or do something else that actively puts you at an unbalanced gameplay advantage where the enemy can't fight you fairly, that is glitch abuse.
The glitch abuse prevention aspect is of course, as you say, only really a thing in more modern titles that receive online updates - whereas old titles were shipped as-is, and typically fixes to glitches would come through dlc packages instead, or direct sequels. But counter strike is still a good example where the concept of glitch abuse going against TOS has been a thing since the first games launched, and was so for most pc-based competitive online titles as well as rts games etc. It wasn't as frequently enforced back then, but thats another topic entirely.
I am use crack version 🤣 single player games any problem 😂,
CS 1.0? Cmon Naggz, how can you mix up 1.6 with 0?
-1000 cause you actually played 1.3 right?
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is using calculator cheating?????
I don't see the point in cheating in pvp. You can have fun with cheats in singleplayer or even help players in co-op vs cpu (ike the zombie survival, i enjoyed A LOT when a player spammed weapons for us to use). I'd like to see them immediately banned mid-game in pvp/competitive modes.
I only cheat im single player mode
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To be fair in the Dream case (Not a Dream Stan, i just watch some of his vids)
Dream technically wasn't a Speedrunner, most of his videos were Manhunt videos where he gets hunted by some of his friends who try to kill him, while he himself tries to finish the game.
He did come out and said he had a Plugin to increase the odds of multiple things so the Vids weren't him trying to get Blaze Rods and Ender Pearls for an hour.
And honestly we're talking Minecraft Java-Edition here. We give Skyrim shit about being bugged but the only thing that is more bugged than Minecraft Java-Edition is Minecraft Bedrock-Edition (hence it's community given name: Minecraft Bugrock-Edition)
I think what is the more damning evidence is that he denied the claims for so long and hired an astrophysicist to prove he didn't cheat. He could easily have looked at his files to verify he did or didn't cheat and apologize to the community. His adamant refusal actually proved to be more of a solid proof of his deliberate guilt.
He also submitted his run to the official speedrunner leader board, which made him subject to the speedrunner rules.
The best course of action would have been to immediately admit the accident and apologize, which he had every capable chance of realizing by just checking which mods he had active. He took months to realize he had a cheat mod "accidentally" active.
Either Dream is a complete idiot or he cheated and was trying to get away with it. I'll leave you to decide which is which.
Dream was definitely a speed runner, he was doing speedruns, posting them on the official speedrun website as legitimate runs, so that makes him a speedrunner. The controversy wasn’t about his Manhunt vids, although speculation came about because off the controversy, it was about him posting cheated runs as real and denying it, hiring an astrophysicist to try and prove his innocence, only to coincidentally months later find the cheats “hidden” in his files. Never found them until basically everyone already believed he was cheating then suddenly found them, makes it look like if more people believed him we wouldn’t have found out at all, very strange indeed.
11:40 - #1 - old games had less bottoms to command so you can use space instead of mouse key, today its not possible because you need space to jump or crotch depends on the player preference, modern games i play with controller and old games with mouse and keyboard
lmao