I have both the helikon and the miltec. They both work fine, but I noticed the coating on the inside of the miltec is thicker than the helikon. Also, the box stitching in the middle of the poncho is not taped on the helikon inside but is on the miltec. I dont know how thats gunna work.
Good review. Thank you. I'm looking for a poncho and having seen this, I'm just about to order the Mil-Tec. I'm in the UK and you're not wrong about the weather so hope it will be a sound purchase
Glad I could help. There are other Poncho Reviews on my channel. The helikon tex poncho is an excellent one as well. Thanks for the views and comments.
bought my miltec around 2016. after a few years the waterproof rubber coating wore off and started leaking, also through the seams(even though they are taped), especially around the hood. i still use it but mostly as a groundsheet. certainly not a durable product.( i am not too impressed with durability of miltec products in general) if you can, get a military surplus one.
The Helikon Tex US model Dimensions: approx. 210 x 145 cm/ 83" x 57" in Miltec Dimensions: 83" × 59" in I own both and they look the same size to me. The same size as a real US GI Issue one. And to a full grown man they are barely enough. Thats why they are considered an emergency use as a shelter or for the ultra light option. Consider a 10 x 10 foot tarp. doesn't weight much, has plenty of room and after learning different set ups can be very versatile. there are alot of options out there that don't weight much at all, look on amazon. I have one I got on there I should do a review on it.
@@charlesartificer2158 mil tec here costs 25euros(available locally), helikon 46 euros with shipping(not available locally). i used miltec for some years as a shelter (even for 6-7 day trips with lots of rain), then 8 or so years ago switched to using 10x10 tarp(ideal for hammock, too big otherwise esp. if want to be stealthy). now for non-hammock camping wanna go back to playing with poncho especially for drier seasons
Ok I got ya. If you were state side I would say look into a camo harbor freight tarp. they make one that is 5'6" x 7' 6" that translates into 167.6 x 228.6 cm. Its big without being huge and its cheap. Under 10 bucks. Here is a link to what I am talking about. They are not high quality but will keep the rain off. www.harborfreight.com/7-ft-11-inch-x-5-ft-6-inch-camouflage-tarp-46410.html
@404 The united states army issue poncho is still the best one made in my opinion. But the Helikon Tex is a close runner up. Unfortunately you cant buy a real USGI poncho easily anymore. So out of what you can buy my favorite is the Helikon tex poncho. I did a review on it.
@@punksnotdead7490 unfortunately I do not know where you can get a genuine u.s. issue Pancho or poncho liner anymore. That's kind of why I did these videos as I was comparing them to my old original one trying to find something equivalent. Best advice I have is to just look at the videos and try to make the best informed decision for yourself. The helikon-tex one is very good out of all the commercial ones I looked at. Second to that is the milltek is very very good. But weighs a little bit more if memory serves me right. As for Poncho liners that's kind of a shot in the dark I've reviewed a couple on here they're not bad they are very warm I don't know how to compare them to an original GI one though as I don't have an original GI one. I just have my memory to go at with that. I had one a long time ago but it fell apart after many years of use.
@@charlesartificer2158 Not sure if exactly the same, they do use them. Cambo pattern in german nato. As british are different. I have a couple of their things and are used in tbeir army by milltech.
I think I understand your question, so I'm going to try to answer what I think you're asking. I think you're asking if I wore my USGA Poncho and went through brush? And if that is your question the answer is yes many times it holds up very well. However anything with thorns like a wild rose bushes crabapplethorn trees stuff like that or small Honey Locust trees that have those really long thorns on it. Anything like that it's going to put a hole in a poncho your clothes anything short of body armor. I hope this answers your question and have a great Thanksgiving.
@@natureme2392 good luck, all around here the Army surplus stores don't have the usgi Pancho anymore. That was the whole purpose of me putting these videos up was trying out different brands and stuff. Have a great Thanksgiving brother.
Is there supposed to be a coating on the inside of the usgi poncho? I recently bought one at a price I couldn’t refuse but I noticed that on the inside it feels like there is no coating just the bare nylon fabric. And on the seams around and on the hood there is this yellow waxy substance that almost looks like old hot glue.
Coating on the outside, sounds like the old hot glue stuff you are seeing might be what's left of some coating. I know uv rays and time will tend to do that. Hope you didn't spend to much on it.
@@charlesartificer2158 yea thats what I was thinking it was, I’m thinking the guy I bought it from might have washed it as it appeared unused besides the oddities I saw, only payed 15$ for it so not much of a loss.
@@offtemp5733 15 not bad. I had a guy here at a gun show who wanted 60 for one with burn holes in it lol. Sadly the old gi poncho is getting to be a rare thing.
@@charlesartificer2158 yea its hard to find a good durable poncho that isn’t paper thin. I recently bought a U.S made airforce camo poncho from a surplus store for 25$. It appears to be made out of the same nylon material they coat military gortex jackets in so it appears to be pretty durable. The one downside besides the camo color is that the snaps are plastic which is a little disappointing. But If the woodland one doesn’t workout at least I have a decent backup
@@offtemp5733 true. So far the Helikon tex has been ok for me. But it feels a bit thin so I know what your talking about. Plastic snaps..... sheesh talk about stupid. But then again seems like everything is getting cheaper these days but my bills.
The original U.S. army poncho is the gold, the Helikon tex is silver and the mil tec is bronze. That's how I rank them due to a number of factors. Hope this answers your question.
Je ne suis pas sûr car je n'ai pas essayé cela avec le poncho MilTec. Il est de construction robuste et pourrait probablement être utilisé comme hamac à la rigueur. mais je n'y mettrais pas plus de 200 lb ou 91 kg. Merci pour la vue et le commentaire.
Its in one of my packs. Went out earlier this year for a few days. Poncho worked fine for a day of rain. Will probably last for many years. Thanks for the comment.
Had my Mil-Tec for years and its never failed me. That is quite impressive for British weather. 😂😂
If it stood up to British weather its a winner for sure. Thanks for the comment mate, don't leave your cake's out in the rain!
I have both the helikon and the miltec. They both work fine, but I noticed the coating on the inside of the miltec is thicker than the helikon. Also, the box stitching in the middle of the poncho is not taped on the helikon inside but is on the miltec. I dont know how thats gunna work.
Thanks for the comment and views.
This is really useful. Do you have any more experience now? I am currently struggling to decide between Helikon, Miltec and Brandit.
Do what it should. Good for this price. I use it for few years. No problems. Good review. Keep going!
It's not bad for the price, good piece of gear. Thanks for the comment and views I hope you stick around.
@@charlesartificer2158 For sure.
The new poncho looks like a good piece of gear!💖
Its not bad, thanks for the comment.
Thanks a lot for such awesome reviews of ponchos! You helped me very much
Your welcome. Thanks for the views and comment. Have a great day.
Good review. Thank you. I'm looking for a poncho and having seen this, I'm just about to order the Mil-Tec. I'm in the UK and you're not wrong about the weather so hope it will be a sound purchase
Glad I could help. There are other Poncho Reviews on my channel. The helikon tex poncho is an excellent one as well. Thanks for the views and comments.
Thanks for the comparison! Awesome video
Thanks for the view and comment
bought my miltec around 2016. after a few years the waterproof rubber coating wore off and started leaking, also through the seams(even though they are taped), especially around the hood. i still use it but mostly as a groundsheet. certainly not a durable product.( i am not too impressed with durability of miltec products in general) if you can, get a military surplus one.
Agreed, or get a helicon Tex version I have no issues with that one
@@charlesartificer2158 how is the size of helikon compared to mil-tec? is it smaller? my primary use is for shelter and mil-tec is barely enough
The Helikon Tex US model Dimensions: approx. 210 x 145 cm/ 83" x 57" in
Miltec Dimensions: 83" × 59" in
I own both and they look the same size to me. The same size as a real US GI Issue one. And to a full grown man they are barely enough. Thats why they are considered an emergency use as a shelter or for the ultra light option. Consider a 10 x 10 foot tarp. doesn't weight much, has plenty of room and after learning different set ups can be very versatile. there are alot of options out there that don't weight much at all, look on amazon. I have one I got on there I should do a review on it.
@@charlesartificer2158 mil tec here costs 25euros(available locally), helikon 46 euros with shipping(not available locally). i used miltec for some years as a shelter (even for 6-7 day trips with lots of rain), then 8 or so years ago switched to using 10x10 tarp(ideal for hammock, too big otherwise esp. if want to be stealthy). now for non-hammock camping wanna go back to playing with poncho especially for drier seasons
Ok I got ya. If you were state side I would say look into a camo harbor freight tarp. they make one that is 5'6" x 7' 6" that translates into 167.6 x 228.6 cm. Its big without being huge and its cheap. Under 10 bucks. Here is a link to what I am talking about. They are not high quality but will keep the rain off. www.harborfreight.com/7-ft-11-inch-x-5-ft-6-inch-camouflage-tarp-46410.html
Hi. Please tell me. Are usgi poncho your favorite right now? Is it better than the rest of the ponchos you've ever dealt with? Thanks!
@404 The united states army issue poncho is still the best one made in my opinion. But the Helikon Tex is a close runner up. Unfortunately you cant buy a real USGI poncho easily anymore. So out of what you can buy my favorite is the Helikon tex poncho. I did a review on it.
@@punksnotdead7490 unfortunately I do not know where you can get a genuine u.s. issue Pancho or poncho liner anymore. That's kind of why I did these videos as I was comparing them to my old original one trying to find something equivalent. Best advice I have is to just look at the videos and try to make the best informed decision for yourself. The helikon-tex one is very good out of all the commercial ones I looked at. Second to that is the milltek is very very good. But weighs a little bit more if memory serves me right. As for Poncho liners that's kind of a shot in the dark I've reviewed a couple on here they're not bad they are very warm I don't know how to compare them to an original GI one though as I don't have an original GI one. I just have my memory to go at with that. I had one a long time ago but it fell apart after many years of use.
@@punksnotdead7490 same man.. I am amazed how there is not a single GI poncho in the internet that I can find..
Milltech pocho, used by german army. Is very good. A little shorter than the usa or brittish ponchos but do the job. Cambo pattern is different.
I was not aware that the German army used the Milltech. Is it the same one commercially available? Thanks for the comment and views.
@@charlesartificer2158
Not sure if exactly the same, they do use them. Cambo pattern in german nato. As british are different. I have a couple of their things and are used in tbeir army by milltech.
Interesting thanks for the info
Thank you😺
You're welcome 😊
My has really bad smell, even it is still new and wore it just once?
Hang it up out in the sun, let it air out. I find that tends to work on new smelly gear.
Did you go across the brushes in the usgi poncho?
I think I understand your question, so I'm going to try to answer what I think you're asking. I think you're asking if I wore my USGA Poncho and went through brush? And if that is your question the answer is yes many times it holds up very well. However anything with thorns like a wild rose bushes crabapplethorn trees stuff like that or small Honey Locust trees that have those really long thorns on it. Anything like that it's going to put a hole in a poncho your clothes anything short of body armor. I hope this answers your question and have a great Thanksgiving.
@@charlesartificer2158 thank you you've understood me. I think to buy one of those ponchos
@@natureme2392 good luck, all around here the Army surplus stores don't have the usgi Pancho anymore. That was the whole purpose of me putting these videos up was trying out different brands and stuff. Have a great Thanksgiving brother.
Is there supposed to be a coating on the inside of the usgi poncho? I recently bought one at a price I couldn’t refuse but I noticed that on the inside it feels like there is no coating just the bare nylon fabric. And on the seams around and on the hood there is this yellow waxy substance that almost looks like old hot glue.
Coating on the outside, sounds like the old hot glue stuff you are seeing might be what's left of some coating. I know uv rays and time will tend to do that. Hope you didn't spend to much on it.
@@charlesartificer2158 yea thats what I was thinking it was, I’m thinking the guy I bought it from might have washed it as it appeared unused besides the oddities I saw, only payed 15$ for it so not much of a loss.
@@offtemp5733 15 not bad. I had a guy here at a gun show who wanted 60 for one with burn holes in it lol. Sadly the old gi poncho is getting to be a rare thing.
@@charlesartificer2158 yea its hard to find a good durable poncho that isn’t paper thin. I recently bought a U.S made airforce camo poncho from a surplus store for 25$. It appears to be made out of the same nylon material they coat military gortex jackets in so it appears to be pretty durable. The one downside besides the camo color is that the snaps are plastic which is a little disappointing. But If the woodland one doesn’t workout at least I have a decent backup
@@offtemp5733 true. So far the Helikon tex has been ok for me. But it feels a bit thin so I know what your talking about. Plastic snaps..... sheesh talk about stupid. But then again seems like everything is getting cheaper these days but my bills.
If this is the bronze, what is the silver?
The original U.S. army poncho is the gold, the Helikon tex is silver and the mil tec is bronze. That's how I rank them due to a number of factors. Hope this answers your question.
@@charlesartificer2158 thanks
@@BurtGummer85 no problem
I ordered one 11 months ago. I just got an email saying they are about to ship. In two weeks.
bonjour a tous , quel poids peut supporter le vrai poncho miltec quand on s'en sert de hamac ?
Je ne suis pas sûr car je n'ai pas essayé cela avec le poncho MilTec. Il est de construction robuste et pourrait probablement être utilisé comme hamac à la rigueur. mais je n'y mettrais pas plus de 200 lb ou 91 kg. Merci pour la vue et le commentaire.
How's this thing holding up
Its in one of my packs. Went out earlier this year for a few days. Poncho worked fine for a day of rain. Will probably last for many years. Thanks for the comment.
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or you can listen to me ramble on lol
"Global" is new age speak for look out its gonna suck IMEAO😂
Could be
Grommlets lol
Oh and thanks for the review, very helpful.
@@richardkent7369 no problem, thanks for the comment.
Learn metric, please 🥺
I am learning, see my current videos. Or you could learn inches 😁