@@carnagecandycos Sure, I can, it's made a bit more difficult to see in this exact performance cause there are a few times they mess up and do a move in the wrong order but certain moves still go around the pentagram correctly so I'll focus on those. Starting at 1:20 Wiggly does an in and out arm movement, at 1:25 this dance move moves to Pokey, then to Blinky at 1:28, then to Nibbly at 1:32, then to Tinky at 1:35, then it returns to Wiggly at 1:38. Now imagine a circle connecting the five characters together and each of the five characters as points of a star inside that circle (obviously normally Pokey and Tinky would be further inward for a traditional pentagram but they're further out here so they're not blocking other characters), if you were to draw a line connecting who is doing the in and out arm movement that started at Wiggly and moving from character to character you would draw a line from the point at Wiggly to the point at Pokey then to the point at Blinky then to the point at Nibbly then to the point at Tinky then back to the point at Wiggly, and you would have drawn a pentacle inside the circle making it a pentagram. You can do this for the four other dance moves as well, and Blinky's eye framing and Pokey's left and right posing also go around in a perfect pentacle, but Nibbly's lolli licking and Tinky's squatting get sorta lost a couple times with timing mistakes.
Technically yes but not a pentagram as you're thinking. The "pentagram" with a circle is ACTUALLY a pentacle (5 sided circle) which has many meanings but a pentagram is without a circle border. The pentacle isn't a bad symbol, it's usually a protective symbol of the 5 elements (spirit, water, fire, earth, air), while the inverted pentacle (on the book, the tip of the star is at the bottom) is the "evil" but not really just the symbol of the Satanist church putting "spirit" or "god" at the bottom because they focus on human free will and doing good without expecting rewards
“We don’t give a shit about your phone” is so funny. I saw in another comment someone was like “how many times do you think people have tried to sacrifice their phones” and it cracks me up because like. You brought this on yourselves babes. I bet as soon as they got back to the Black and White it was all “well if SOME of us didn’t use social media to harvest souls -“
I just noticed that Tinky is reaching towards Peter when they realize that Peter might be sacrificed, he WANTS that because he wants Peter. I like the idea of him suggesting that to the other lords CONSISTENTLY in the Black and White. Like he just WOULD NOT SHUT UP about it and Wiggly was like 'FINE WE'LL SUGGEST THAT TO THEM FIRST AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.' Imagine how pissed he was when he didn't die lol.
Also Pete's fixation on Tinky as the lord is reaching for him, I was wondering what he was looking at in the pro shot, but having Pete already see Tinky obviously wanting him for his toy box must be absolutely terrifying
Y'know, it occurs to me each of them seems to have a Lord in Black that's interested in them specifically. Blinky really seems to enjoy watching Grace's private moments and reveling in her guilt, Tinky obviously wants Peter in order to "complete his set", and Nibbly seems to find Stephanie's soul in particular very tasty and valuable (hers and Max's). But yeah, I love the idea of them all knowing the three of them would end up summoning them and Blinky Tinky and Nibbly all being super excited for the possibility of getting what they want. Meanwhile Pokey and Wiggly are just kinda along for the ride I guess lol
@@SamMaddie2pokey and wiggly already attempted and Succeded (somewhat) in obtaining literal other worlds control so i don’t think they want much other than to be along for the ride. They chill like that
@@SamMaddie2 Ty! But also to add to your explanation I’d argue Paul was Pokeys person of interest, him (in most universes I’d guess considering Black Friday) doesn’t like musicals and i find drama to be quite popular in broadway and pokeys design seems very drama broadway like. So it fits. and i forgot her name but the cult leader woman from Black Friday would maybe be Wigglys? Can’t explain that one other than obvious reasons. Maybe not but i think it’s fun.
The way Jon delivers "WHATEVER WE WANT" in the digital ticket is so deep and visceral in my mind that I don't think comes across in the pro-shot. Sends a shiver down my spine.
@@aldendomino3523Assuming they’re forming a circle around the teens, the dance starts with Wiggly, then to Pokey, then Blinky, Nibbly and to Tinky before going back to Wiggly again. In some parts they return back to their designated dance moves and discard the pentagram pattern (mostly during “The Lords in Black, oh, the lords in black”), but for the most part amidst the verse that’s how it goes around.
Funfact: pentagrams are not inherently evil nor a demonic symbol. Usually it's a emblematic of protection, or a summoning/manifestation visual. Christians just find it offensive because they don't get it and now the general public misinterprets it, which is a shame. It's kind of a symbol that can mean many things, but not nessisarily bad ones. People also often refer to a pentacle as a pentagram, but it's a pentacle if it's a star with a circle surrounding it. Although... they have been summoned ;)
I love the idea that the Lord's in Black have a new outfit in their 'human form' depending on where they are being summoned. So they have a 'teenager look' for the high school; a 'theatre crew look' for Starlight Theatre; maybe a 'business/ coorporation look' (or 'out shopping look') for the Lakeside Mall; and a similar 'office work attire' for the CCRP office building. And then, for the Waylon Hall house, love the idea of them wearing early 1900s attire. *Lords in Black being summoned Them: oooooh, which look is it gonna be this time?! Someone who's good at costume design please get on this!
LOVE THIS Though I’ve always thought the Lords in Black take up the forms according to their summoners Like teenage summoners - teenage, youthful fashion
I can't stress enough about the choreography. For one, its already amazing, but something 90% of people didn't notice is this. Look at the dances they start off with. Every line, they swap dances. For example, the start off with their own, then Nibbly takes on Blinky's dance, while Tinky takes Nibbly's dance, and it keeps swapping around with them all and its just amazing to rewatch and see it. Its wild how good the attention to detail is. I truly appreciate starkid.
I think the digital ticket was much better in this song because it shows the sheer scale and power of the lords in black and the proshot only really did close ups and didn’t show a lot of Corey and Curt :’(
No really, though. Something about the pro-shot version really took away from how the characters all moved about on the stage!! I think its awesome they got the proshot version but i think you lose a lot of what makes these musicals special when you don't get to see all the choreography and all of the movements. It's honestly why i prefer the guy who didn't like musicals and black friday because you can see everything instead of just zooms in on characters that are talking etc etc. I'm definitely gonna go get the deluxe digital version of this on their website for this specific video to see what else I missed in this one by only watching the youtube version.
I appreciate the quality of the pro shot, but was so happy to find this one. Not just for the wide shot giving us the experience as a whole, but also with the audience reaction. That's half the theatre experience right there.
Love the detail of Steph reaching out and holding onto Peter when Tinky says he wants Peter in his toy box - such a cute action considering they're all terrified, and a good nod back to how she tried protecting Peter when Max was hunting them all. I'm genuinely obsessed with how Starkid perfects their growing feelings towards eachother, and the pain of how many times Steph tries to help/protect Peter from getting hurt only to become the one firing the gun at him...
@@3hansrchaI think it's because Pokey and Tinky both were very apparent in their nightmare time episodes, but Blinky and Nibbly only show up at the end, and the light has to be focused on the Nerds
I’m pretty sure the spotlights for Corey and Curt didn’t activate with the right timing but I’m not sure. At the very first line after they appear you can see Curt hesitating before starting Tinky’s dance and I assume it’s because his spotlight’s not on lol
@purp4168 I'd agree with the light focus thing but definitely disagree about the nightmare time spotlight points. I would argue that Blinky gets the most spotlight in his nightmare time episode of the lords in black, at least more than Tinky. Although Tinky's is more direct, he only shows up for a few moments of spotlight and the plot focuses on the time travel shenanigans otherwise. Although Blinky personally doesn't show up, the whole setting with watcher world revolves around him and practically every person in the park at some point or another acts as a possessed mouthpiece for Blinky with the purple eyes. I'd technically say that Blinky has more screentime in nmt than Pokey because Blinky's there for his entire episode, but Pokey has a full dedicated episode with a decent amount of direct appearances + tgwdlm is not stated to be but is indirectly/by extension a pokey stage show, so that's less of a hill im dying on than blinky having more screen time than tinky
Peter does have some big brother worship for Ted in Abstinence Camp. When he finds Ted's 20 year old porn mag Peter clasps it to his chest and says "He's always with me."
I adore the proshot, but one thing I think is really lost in it... is just how predatory the Lords in Black come across. The vibes are there but seeing the wider shots, the posture... idk it just has a more intense feeling here. I love this scene regardless though!
Something I feel like the studio recording/final edited version is missing music-wise is how absolutely PUNCHY that drum is. Especially in the beginning of the final refrain. It’s easy to overlook percussion and the way the drums are so LOUD and OVERBEARING in this really adds a lot to the feeling of power the lords in black hold in this whole scene
I wish the soundtrack included the laughter at the end as they leave. It just fits the song, I feel it ends so abruptly on the track and the laughter adds a nice final touch to the number.
LOSING MY MIND ABOUT THIS CHOREO, its absolutely fantastic, the 5 different same dance moves looping but all varying slightly to show each face's personality, absolutely they are siblings. Pokey's move is holding up his mask like its the skull from Hamlet, he's a musical nut. Nibbly obviously has an unsatiable hunger so its the liking of the lollipop. Wiggly waves his arms back and forth to symbolize his face tentacles. Blinky looks around of course because eyeball. I'm not 100% percent sure about Tinky but it could be he's excited to play another game or he could be like a goat getting ready to charge, those are both his things but im not sure what his moves are supposed to mean. In any case, so much thought and attention has been put into these moves, theres other things I noticed that I won't even add here like pokey using his mask when watching everyone bc he doesn't want to see everything he just wants himself. Magnificent
What stood out to me about Pokey's move is that it's the same what Paul's boss uses in "What Do You Want Paul?" when he sings "do you know what I want for myself?"
Man this show would have been awesome to see live... could you imagine watching this in basically pitch black and feeling the chorus just vibrate through you... damn...
Gota love that the brothers do eatchothers Choreo. They all start with their own move and then throughout their singing they take another brothers choreo. Lovely!
Ahh this hit so hard, I was a bit disappointed with the pro shot version because of how awesome this was when I watched it the first time. Needed more wides! Thanks for posting
Really? I don't get the appeal of this version. Is it two different performances? It has to be, this versions deliveries seem very rushed and bland, it's like they had a deadline to clear out by 9. In the pro version they land the lines better I think
@@sm79165Most of the lines in the pro version feel better, but the pro version completely misses out on the actual stage composition/positioning of the Lords My ideal version would be a wide angle filming of the pro
@@moore9793 It must be a case of preferring whatever you saw first I guess. I saw the pro version first and for me it built this sense of ambiguity of where the lords are (except Wiggly ofc) and this gave them a sense of omnipresence like you know they're in the room with you but you don't know exactly where that is or like they're here one second and then over there the next. This plays really well for demonic vibes, because the less you know the more willing you are to suspend your disbelief in magic, nothing ruins an illusion more than knowing too much and I feel like that's what they went for but no one in here seems to have understood them. When I saw this video it ruined the mystique by showing me where they stood and it was really disappointing to watch them not move from that one spot. Which brings me to what really bothers me is why have them so spaced out in the first place, maybe if they inched closer slowly and got next to them by the end of the scene it might have worked, or just put them as close as Wiggly was from the start and have them rotate in a circle while dancing, that would have solved everything edit: I watched it again and at 2:01:49 there is a wide shot showing where everyone is but it's so short and they're not that well lit so it might as well not have been included
This is really interesting because on the filmed version, they keep cutting between the Lords as they converse between themselves, hardly ever showing the trio. It works well to show that the Lords in Black simply do not care that much about the lives or anything to do with the people who summoned them - they can ignore them as much as they want, and joke about inside references like "What do you want steph?" without any fear of repercussions. But here, the cinematography is obviously just one all-encompassing shot. Instead, you get the real notion that they have surrounded the trio, and that their decision to summon them is inescapable. I am normal and sane, why do you ask?
I know I’m late but I like the concept that Peter is watching as Tinky is getting closer to him. I mean he did said early that he is going to have the whole set in his toy box. Meaning that once they start talking about sacrificing Peter, it excites Tinky because he finally gets to have another Spankofkis.
It's times like these when I prefer the digital ticket instead of the pro shot. This looks so much more horrifying than the proshot and you can see the tiny details they add! They look so surreal here especially with their choreo
Yessssss I’ve been wanting to see this again since I saw the digital ticket. Just because the choreography is so good to see all together without the close ups.
I can’t believe I just noticed this but when Stephanie, Grace and, Peter are reading from the book the background singers are encouraging them to complete the ritual by telling them what name to say next, this is more obvious when they pause before saying Wigglys name. The background singers sing the rest of the Lords In Blacks names in order but they repeat Wigglys name three times when Steph, Grace, and Peter pause.
Commenting for the algorithm in the name of our Ceaseless Watcher, Bliklotep. May their thousand eyes gaze upon this video with favor, O' ancient eldritch audience, praise be the council of the Lords in Black!
Wow, thanks for sharing this is awesome! Gives it a whole different vibe seeing it in this view. The cuts and edits were so well done for the RUclips show but this is just so wild. It’s somehow more creepy? Seeing all of them at the same time the whole time even though the zooms and edits were creepy as they were. So rad, wish I could have seen the whole show.
@@lochneassa1678double checked, you can buy a digital download of the proshot for £13, but for £17 you get that plus loads of BTS content AND it comes with the digital ticket version!!
I seem to be alone in not liking this version as much. The close ups make the scene more cramped and really ups the danger to the characters. The quick editing makes it feel like a trip and thats what makes me find the proshot more unnerving. But my main problem is only really seeing Nibbly clearly in this version, the pro shot shows the costumes and choreography so much better. But thats just my opinion and its probably not correct one lmao
I also really like the RUclips one but I love seeing the full stage, I would love a mixture of the two, with the closeups and full stage but I'm not great at editing, hopefully someone might make it!
Yes! I actually know this for a fact because Mariah confirmed it in a workshop I was a part of with Angela! her and Angela did a small Q&A at the end and that was a question asked and she answered it! (Video of the Q&A is on my channel!)
Wait I'm unsure if I'm missing something or thinking too into it but is Peter an Ophran cuz Tinky says "Oh boy, A Spankoffski. I'm going to have the whole set in my toy box!" 2:01 Meaning Tinky has his family, meaning they're dead. Sooooo.....umm is this lore.
Spoiler for Nightmare Time "Time Bastard" Ted Spankoffski is stuck forever in a repeating time loop in Tinkys toy box. Tinky is the one of the LiB who has power of time control and Ted got lost in a temporal anomaly at CCRP technical.
I'm trying to learn the choreo for high school is killing me and there's a couple parts where you can't quite see what everyone is doing. Any chance you could post that one?
Sorry I only recorded the two sections that I posted and don't have access anymore, I'm not sure but I think the digital ticket is available for purchase on the website for starkid
It was something you had to pay to access but the full official proshoot is on RUclips if you look up nerdy prudes must die on the teamstarkid RUclips channel. This is just a clip because a lot of people preferred the wide shot for this specific scene
This is such great footage! I’m curious could you out up the digital ticket version of Hatchet Town as I’m curious too see it without the cameos and Its the only other number that I believe was change during the pro shot. I understand if you can’t though!
Question, this digital versión is the same that pit on youtube but whit bigger imagine and not clear sound ? I think it coult be, but theres some parts that sound a little more differents that the RUclips version like the "his soul i wanna lick it" it sounds actually like the song on the álbum soundtrack
the digital ticket is a performance you can buy if you can't see the show in person while it's showing, that's usually filmed with one stationary camera. typically, the digital ticket is filmed on the opening weekend, i believe. it's a different performance to the one(s) in the pro-shot.
The digital ticket is the unedited non-proshot version of the show They basically just recorded the show unedited and let people buy it before the show comes out!
This version of the show matches better to the soundtrack (same hatchet town) because it’s the actual full stage show vs the proshot where it’s more then one show mixed with things filmed not live after the fact. This version is still available through purchasing the proshot. I agree that a lot of things in it do hit differently
I wish but I don't unfortunately, I just screen recorded a couple of parts of the digital ticket when I bought it. I thought this part was so good and wanted to see it again while I waited for the RUclips release and someone asked if I had it
Ladies, Gentlemen and the marvellous rainbow of gender in-between, I strongly advise you to download this video on your personnal computer, because halas, it's the fourth of that type put on YT and I guess it will be the fourth to be delete soon. I made the mistake 3 times, not a fourth time. :)
Or they can buy the digital ticket version with the proshot from starkid and have the entire unedited show? So starkid gets paid for it and knows there is an audience who does still like the live unedited shows?
Starkid themselves have mentioned this multiple times- stop sharing clips of the digital tickets. ESPECIALLY when this one is still available for purchase. You're actively taking money away from these creators who have made musical theatre as a whole more accessible for people all around the world.
@@Awelbeckk whatever opinions you have about the pro shot don’t discount the fact that the publishing of this video goes against Starkid’s explicit wishes. its disrespectful, especially when Starkid has done so much for the theatre community
@@Awelbeckkto go with what they’re saying it’s not even expensive to buy both shows together on the site. They don’t have to do anything they do like giving us digital tickets during the run or after. They could easily stop doing it all together if it gets out of hand
i love the fact that if you focus on their dances they DO actually dance in the shape of a pentagram
can you like explain? so i can see it?
@@carnagecandycos Sure, I can, it's made a bit more difficult to see in this exact performance cause there are a few times they mess up and do a move in the wrong order but certain moves still go around the pentagram correctly so I'll focus on those. Starting at 1:20 Wiggly does an in and out arm movement, at 1:25 this dance move moves to Pokey, then to Blinky at 1:28, then to Nibbly at 1:32, then to Tinky at 1:35, then it returns to Wiggly at 1:38. Now imagine a circle connecting the five characters together and each of the five characters as points of a star inside that circle (obviously normally Pokey and Tinky would be further inward for a traditional pentagram but they're further out here so they're not blocking other characters), if you were to draw a line connecting who is doing the in and out arm movement that started at Wiggly and moving from character to character you would draw a line from the point at Wiggly to the point at Pokey then to the point at Blinky then to the point at Nibbly then to the point at Tinky then back to the point at Wiggly, and you would have drawn a pentacle inside the circle making it a pentagram. You can do this for the four other dance moves as well, and Blinky's eye framing and Pokey's left and right posing also go around in a perfect pentacle, but Nibbly's lolli licking and Tinky's squatting get sorta lost a couple times with timing mistakes.
@@yerimsfangirl thanks!!!
That is genius
Technically yes but not a pentagram as you're thinking. The "pentagram" with a circle is ACTUALLY a pentacle (5 sided circle) which has many meanings but a pentagram is without a circle border. The pentacle isn't a bad symbol, it's usually a protective symbol of the 5 elements (spirit, water, fire, earth, air), while the inverted pentacle (on the book, the tip of the star is at the bottom) is the "evil" but not really just the symbol of the Satanist church putting "spirit" or "god" at the bottom because they focus on human free will and doing good without expecting rewards
“We don’t give a shit about your phone” is so funny. I saw in another comment someone was like “how many times do you think people have tried to sacrifice their phones” and it cracks me up because like. You brought this on yourselves babes. I bet as soon as they got back to the Black and White it was all “well if SOME of us didn’t use social media to harvest souls -“
I saw a theory that was like "850 times someone tried sacrificing their phones, and 849 times they said no"
@@FallofArtemis theyre all just busy so only tinky gets summoned and he just trades for their phone so he can harrass people on twitter 😭
I just noticed that Tinky is reaching towards Peter when they realize that Peter might be sacrificed, he WANTS that because he wants Peter. I like the idea of him suggesting that to the other lords CONSISTENTLY in the Black and White. Like he just WOULD NOT SHUT UP about it and Wiggly was like 'FINE WE'LL SUGGEST THAT TO THEM FIRST AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.' Imagine how pissed he was when he didn't die lol.
Also Pete's fixation on Tinky as the lord is reaching for him, I was wondering what he was looking at in the pro shot, but having Pete already see Tinky obviously wanting him for his toy box must be absolutely terrifying
Y'know, it occurs to me each of them seems to have a Lord in Black that's interested in them specifically. Blinky really seems to enjoy watching Grace's private moments and reveling in her guilt, Tinky obviously wants Peter in order to "complete his set", and Nibbly seems to find Stephanie's soul in particular very tasty and valuable (hers and Max's).
But yeah, I love the idea of them all knowing the three of them would end up summoning them and Blinky Tinky and Nibbly all being super excited for the possibility of getting what they want.
Meanwhile Pokey and Wiggly are just kinda along for the ride I guess lol
@@SamMaddie2pokey and wiggly already attempted and Succeded (somewhat) in obtaining literal other worlds control so i don’t think they want much other than to be along for the ride. They chill like that
@@ThatOneArchivist That makes sense and I like that explanation
@@SamMaddie2 Ty! But also to add to your explanation I’d argue Paul was Pokeys person of interest, him (in most universes I’d guess considering Black Friday) doesn’t like musicals and i find drama to be quite popular in broadway and pokeys design seems very drama broadway like. So it fits. and i forgot her name but the cult leader woman from Black Friday would maybe be Wigglys? Can’t explain that one other than obvious reasons. Maybe not but i think it’s fun.
Ooo its nice to see Grace physically putting Steph behind her almost during the "Stephanie has got a gun" part
Tbh It looks like shes holding out her arm so she cant reach her gun
Some other comment said that it was Angela dragging Mariah's body so the audience can see the gun
The way Jon delivers "WHATEVER WE WANT" in the digital ticket is so deep and visceral in my mind that I don't think comes across in the pro-shot. Sends a shiver down my spine.
3:16
THE DANCE MOVE OF EACH LORD IN BLACK GOES BETWEEN THEM TO DRAW A PENTAGRAM
PLUS, IN THE "WHATEVER YOU WANT" LINE THEY DO POKEY'S MOVE
I don't see it
Genius
@@aldendomino3523Assuming they’re forming a circle around the teens, the dance starts with Wiggly, then to Pokey, then Blinky, Nibbly and to Tinky before going back to Wiggly again.
In some parts they return back to their designated dance moves and discard the pentagram pattern (mostly during “The Lords in Black, oh, the lords in black”), but for the most part amidst the verse that’s how it goes around.
Funfact: pentagrams are not inherently evil nor a demonic symbol. Usually it's a emblematic of protection, or a summoning/manifestation visual. Christians just find it offensive because they don't get it and now the general public misinterprets it, which is a shame. It's kind of a symbol that can mean many things, but not nessisarily bad ones. People also often refer to a pentacle as a pentagram, but it's a pentacle if it's a star with a circle surrounding it.
Although... they have been summoned ;)
I love the idea that the Lord's in Black have a new outfit in their 'human form' depending on where they are being summoned. So they have a 'teenager look' for the high school; a 'theatre crew look' for Starlight Theatre; maybe a 'business/ coorporation look' (or 'out shopping look') for the Lakeside Mall; and a similar 'office work attire' for the CCRP office building. And then, for the Waylon Hall house, love the idea of them wearing early 1900s attire.
*Lords in Black being summoned
Them: oooooh, which look is it gonna be this time?!
Someone who's good at costume design please get on this!
Ooh I love this idea!
I like to think that in Lakeside Mall they manifest as their dolls.
LOVE THIS
Though I’ve always thought the Lords in Black take up the forms according to their summoners
Like teenage summoners - teenage, youthful fashion
@RaptrRamblings Oooooh, that's a cool idea! Would've been interesting to see how they dressed when Mayor Lauter summoned them with this theory
Woah that’s such a cool theory, hell yeah
I can't stress enough about the choreography. For one, its already amazing, but something 90% of people didn't notice is this.
Look at the dances they start off with. Every line, they swap dances. For example, the start off with their own, then Nibbly takes on Blinky's dance, while Tinky takes Nibbly's dance, and it keeps swapping around with them all and its just amazing to rewatch and see it. Its wild how good the attention to detail is.
I truly appreciate starkid.
Fun fact: if you follow the transfer of each dance, they trace the shape of a pentagram around the nerds
I think the digital ticket was much better in this song because it shows the sheer scale and power of the lords in black and the proshot only really did close ups and didn’t show a lot of Corey and Curt :’(
No really, though. Something about the pro-shot version really took away from how the characters all moved about on the stage!! I think its awesome they got the proshot version but i think you lose a lot of what makes these musicals special when you don't get to see all the choreography and all of the movements. It's honestly why i prefer the guy who didn't like musicals and black friday because you can see everything instead of just zooms in on characters that are talking etc etc. I'm definitely gonna go get the deluxe digital version of this on their website for this specific video to see what else I missed in this one by only watching the youtube version.
I appreciate the quality of the pro shot, but was so happy to find this one. Not just for the wide shot giving us the experience as a whole, but also with the audience reaction. That's half the theatre experience right there.
After watching and observing all the lords carefully…TINKY IS ABSOLUTELY UNHINGED
Tinky is the best.
Curt Mega can deliver on hamming it up
Was "Time Bastard" not enough to give that away lmao
Tinky is my favourite thanks to NPMD. I loved him in Time Bastard but something about how Curt plays him jus-
Love the detail of Steph reaching out and holding onto Peter when Tinky says he wants Peter in his toy box - such a cute action considering they're all terrified, and a good nod back to how she tried protecting Peter when Max was hunting them all.
I'm genuinely obsessed with how Starkid perfects their growing feelings towards eachother, and the pain of how many times Steph tries to help/protect Peter from getting hurt only to become the one firing the gun at him...
Whole Choreo rules even more than the close ups!
Another day another Lauren Lopez slay
I love hearing the audience reactions, especially to that first “Fwendy-wends” and the lords’ opinion on Stephanie’s phone…
I’m so happy this is on here! I wish there were more shots of Corey and Curt in the proshot :(((
I'm so sad they're literally in the dark like the entire time 😢😢😢😢
You can still get it on their site after buying the proshot
@@3hansrchaI think it's because Pokey and Tinky both were very apparent in their nightmare time episodes, but Blinky and Nibbly only show up at the end, and the light has to be focused on the Nerds
I’m pretty sure the spotlights for Corey and Curt didn’t activate with the right timing but I’m not sure. At the very first line after they appear you can see Curt hesitating before starting Tinky’s dance and I assume it’s because his spotlight’s not on lol
@purp4168 I'd agree with the light focus thing but definitely disagree about the nightmare time spotlight points. I would argue that Blinky gets the most spotlight in his nightmare time episode of the lords in black, at least more than Tinky. Although Tinky's is more direct, he only shows up for a few moments of spotlight and the plot focuses on the time travel shenanigans otherwise. Although Blinky personally doesn't show up, the whole setting with watcher world revolves around him and practically every person in the park at some point or another acts as a possessed mouthpiece for Blinky with the purple eyes. I'd technically say that Blinky has more screentime in nmt than Pokey because Blinky's there for his entire episode, but Pokey has a full dedicated episode with a decent amount of direct appearances + tgwdlm is not stated to be but is indirectly/by extension a pokey stage show, so that's less of a hill im dying on than blinky having more screen time than tinky
Breaks my heart to see how scared Pete is when Tinky singled him out, and the way he keeps looking at Tinky when Wiggly makes their demand.
That is a callback to Nightmare Time’s the Time Bastard Story. Ted Spankoffski is Pete’s Uncle.
I thought it Abstinence Camp they said Ted was Pete’s brother?
@@maelee9087 Yeah Ted is his brother, not his uncle.
But there are 20 years between them so they were never really close ...
Peter does have some big brother worship for Ted in Abstinence Camp. When he finds Ted's 20 year old porn mag Peter clasps it to his chest and says "He's always with me."
I adore the proshot, but one thing I think is really lost in it... is just how predatory the Lords in Black come across. The vibes are there but seeing the wider shots, the posture... idk it just has a more intense feeling here. I love this scene regardless though!
The pro shot feels more disorientated which fits the Lords' MO
Something I feel like the studio recording/final edited version is missing music-wise is how absolutely PUNCHY that drum is. Especially in the beginning of the final refrain. It’s easy to overlook percussion and the way the drums are so LOUD and OVERBEARING in this really adds a lot to the feeling of power the lords in black hold in this whole scene
The percussion is absolutely the heartbeat of the whole thing.
I wish the soundtrack included the laughter at the end as they leave. It just fits the song, I feel it ends so abruptly on the track and the laughter adds a nice final touch to the number.
Don’t forget the audience screaming when Wiggly says his first line. Also really adds to it
Curt is so high energy in this! Thank you for posting this I’ve been searching for it so I could see more of him and Cory!
If you purchase the proshot you can get the whole version of this show
@@akurokumelodys I didn’t realise it was still avaliable!!
@@hollywhitbread9953yep! I will always spread the word about it because I am so grateful they let us get to have it too
Terrific news. Thanks!
LOSING MY MIND ABOUT THIS CHOREO, its absolutely fantastic, the 5 different same dance moves looping but all varying slightly to show each face's personality, absolutely they are siblings. Pokey's move is holding up his mask like its the skull from Hamlet, he's a musical nut. Nibbly obviously has an unsatiable hunger so its the liking of the lollipop. Wiggly waves his arms back and forth to symbolize his face tentacles. Blinky looks around of course because eyeball. I'm not 100% percent sure about Tinky but it could be he's excited to play another game or he could be like a goat getting ready to charge, those are both his things but im not sure what his moves are supposed to mean. In any case, so much thought and attention has been put into these moves, theres other things I noticed that I won't even add here like pokey using his mask when watching everyone bc he doesn't want to see everything he just wants himself. Magnificent
What stood out to me about Pokey's move is that it's the same what Paul's boss uses in "What Do You Want Paul?" when he sings "do you know what I want for myself?"
@@ZannaTheFangirl OMG just went back and checked, incredible catch!
This may seem weird, but i think Tinky's moves are supposed to represent rewinding time??? i’m not sure though
I've watched this so many times and literally JUST caught how Stephanie grabbed onto Peter when Tinky talks about adding him to the Box. So cute!
She really did grab him and look at Tinky like "nuh-uh, he's mine"
Man this show would have been awesome to see live... could you imagine watching this in basically pitch black and feeling the chorus just vibrate through you... damn...
Gota love that the brothers do eatchothers Choreo. They all start with their own move and then throughout their singing they take another brothers choreo. Lovely!
Ahh this hit so hard, I was a bit disappointed with the pro shot version because of how awesome this was when I watched it the first time. Needed more wides! Thanks for posting
Really? I don't get the appeal of this version. Is it two different performances? It has to be, this versions deliveries seem very rushed and bland, it's like they had a deadline to clear out by 9. In the pro version they land the lines better I think
@@sm79165Most of the lines in the pro version feel better, but the pro version completely misses out on the actual stage composition/positioning of the Lords
My ideal version would be a wide angle filming of the pro
@@moore9793 It must be a case of preferring whatever you saw first I guess. I saw the pro version first and for me it built this sense of ambiguity of where the lords are (except Wiggly ofc) and this gave them a sense of omnipresence like you know they're in the room with you but you don't know exactly where that is or like they're here one second and then over there the next. This plays really well for demonic vibes, because the less you know the more willing you are to suspend your disbelief in magic, nothing ruins an illusion more than knowing too much and I feel like that's what they went for but no one in here seems to have understood them. When I saw this video it ruined the mystique by showing me where they stood and it was really disappointing to watch them not move from that one spot. Which brings me to what really bothers me is why have them so spaced out in the first place, maybe if they inched closer slowly and got next to them by the end of the scene it might have worked, or just put them as close as Wiggly was from the start and have them rotate in a circle while dancing, that would have solved everything
edit: I watched it again and at 2:01:49 there is a wide shot showing where everyone is but it's so short and they're not that well lit so it might as well not have been included
This is really interesting because on the filmed version, they keep cutting between the Lords as they converse between themselves, hardly ever showing the trio. It works well to show that the Lords in Black simply do not care that much about the lives or anything to do with the people who summoned them - they can ignore them as much as they want, and joke about inside references like "What do you want steph?" without any fear of repercussions. But here, the cinematography is obviously just one all-encompassing shot. Instead, you get the real notion that they have surrounded the trio, and that their decision to summon them is inescapable. I am normal and sane, why do you ask?
I feel like you can tell alot more that they're in a star shape here
After only hearing the pro shot and cast recording the "La-la-la-la-la" and "The lords in black ah" digital ticket sounds goofy.
Right, I was like “what is with these ‘the lords in black call us’ they sound so off”
Corey absolutely devoured that choreography, I wish he was better lit in this scene!!
More Corey is always a good thing. I've loved his performances since MAMD.
I like this version too because you can truly hear the unedited terror and everything in between and fully see everyone’s reactions it’s incredible! ❤
dude i love the footstep sounds before wiggly speaks sm. i don't know why
Aaa I’ve been trying to find a digital ticket version to learn the choreo!! Thank you so much!
no problem!
You can get the digital ticket from purchasing the proshot and bonus features
@@akurokumelodys I am quite literally broke so I can’t, I’d love to… but I genuinely can’t
Wiggog Wiggog Y'rath= Wiggly
Pikotho = Pokey
Bliklotep = Blinky
T'noy Keraxis = Tinky
Nibblelinephym = Nibbly
nibblelinephym gives me so much joy, it's such a good eldritch full name for nibbly
Pikotho is Pokey and Bliklotep is Blinky
T'noy Karaxis my beloved (I won't explain myself I questioned my sexuality enough because of them)
@@Tamora1300 Just want you to know you are seen, you are heard, and I agree.
wiggly's name just says wiggog once and pokey's is spelled pokotho
yesss it’s so cool seeing all of the choreography
because of this video i finally was able to figure out what the hell they were doing during the "stephanie has got a gun" part!! hoorayy!!
Glad I could help!
omg steph grabbing pete when tinky points him out
I know I’m late but I like the concept that Peter is watching as Tinky is getting closer to him. I mean he did said early that he is going to have the whole set in his toy box. Meaning that once they start talking about sacrificing Peter, it excites Tinky because he finally gets to have another Spankofkis.
It's times like these when I prefer the digital ticket instead of the pro shot. This looks so much more horrifying than the proshot and you can see the tiny details they add! They look so surreal here especially with their choreo
Yessssss I’ve been wanting to see this again since I saw the digital ticket. Just because the choreography is so good to see all together without the close ups.
@@IauraJ glad I could help!
I can’t believe I just noticed this but when Stephanie, Grace and, Peter are reading from the book the background singers are encouraging them to complete the ritual by telling them what name to say next, this is more obvious when they pause before saying Wigglys name. The background singers sing the rest of the Lords In Blacks names in order but they repeat Wigglys name three times when Steph, Grace, and Peter pause.
Doing the Lords’ work. Thank you!!
Now this is someone who knows how to correctly use apostrophes!
What you did there. I see it.
Curt is killing it!
I think you can hear the Lords in Black walking on stage when Pete asked if it worked 😂
I would totally make a deal with evil entities if they'd sing and dance like that.
I love how you can hear will and Bryce singing backstage in this version
I love that starkid has a free proshot, but there’s just something about the digital ticket version that makes me go FERAL
2:04 I had heard that Steph grabs Pete in this moment but it’s so great to see it!!!
Commenting for the algorithm in the name of our Ceaseless Watcher, Bliklotep. May their thousand eyes gaze upon this video with favor, O' ancient eldritch audience, praise be the council of the Lords in Black!
Wow, thanks for sharing this is awesome! Gives it a whole different vibe seeing it in this view. The cuts and edits were so well done for the RUclips show but this is just so wild. It’s somehow more creepy? Seeing all of them at the same time the whole time even though the zooms and edits were creepy as they were. So rad, wish I could have seen the whole show.
I love it when they do like a version of another's move in like star order if that makes sence
I thought this scene would be less scary filmed like this but it's actually still terrifying
oh finally! i wanted so badly to see a wider angel on this song, always sad you could only really see on Lord at a time
For anyone who has the money, please just buy the digital ticket. It's not expensive and you can support Starkid.
the digital tickets are still available?!
@@lochneassa1678 the digital ticket is a bonus feature on the website for purchase
@@lochneassa1678It’s included with the bonus features that you can buy on their website!
@@lochneassa1678double checked, you can buy a digital download of the proshot for £13, but for £17 you get that plus loads of BTS content AND it comes with the digital ticket version!!
@@lochneassa1678it comes with the offline digital download of the proshot that can be bought on the SK website
As much as I loved the professional shots of this scene, I wish they had more shots of them as a group instead of just the one.
idk why but "Don't frighten them, Pokey, you nasty boy" makes me laugh way too hard every single time.
@@Dale-ct5ru as it should! Also we both have piggie profile pictures!
@@HilaryLudkin-Finnie Yooo!
You do not understand how much I love the lords in black
I love how intense the drums are in this version
I wish Corey and Curt were lit better :(
Thanks for posting, I hoping to see more of the choreography.
the instrumental to Wiggle playing as the lords come in oh my god
RHIS. THIS IS THE VERSION THAT GOT STUCK IN MY HEAD FOR ABSOLUTE MONTHS. FOREVER AND EVER
I really wanted to see Pokey dancing more I'm happy i found this video
@@autism21918 glad I could help!
Jeff didn’t have to go so hard on this song ❤
why does tinky's human form straight up look like lorax- 😭😭
@@akshayas7275 he speaks for the trees
I seem to be alone in not liking this version as much. The close ups make the scene more cramped and really ups the danger to the characters. The quick editing makes it feel like a trip and thats what makes me find the proshot more unnerving.
But my main problem is only really seeing Nibbly clearly in this version, the pro shot shows the costumes and choreography so much better. But thats just my opinion and its probably not correct one lmao
I also really like the RUclips one but I love seeing the full stage, I would love a mixture of the two, with the closeups and full stage but I'm not great at editing, hopefully someone might make it!
I love the youtube version but wont lie, it is very cool to experience the story from part of the audience and to see the stage
THANK YOU SO MUCH YOU ARE AN ANGEL
YOU'RE WELCOME!
If someone danced and sang for me hell yeah I'd make a deal with them
i really wish i got the digital ticket!!! i need to compare the show to the proshot
You can still get it as part of the bonus features if you purchase the show from their store
Is it just Will and Bryce doing the background vocals?
I'm not actually sure
Yes! I actually know this for a fact because Mariah confirmed it in a workshop I was a part of with Angela! her and Angela did a small Q&A at the end and that was a question asked and she answered it! (Video of the Q&A is on my channel!)
@@KingQueerio lmao what a coincidence. That's really cool
shouts out to curt mega for gettin So low with it
I hope this one stays up unlike the other 2 uploads of this, especially since it seems to be the most high quality
Hopefully, I made sure to post it after the musicals on RUclips and credit Starkid so hopefully that's enough
@@HilaryLudkin-Finnie Well ... I hope you're right, but I won't hold my breath.
I will be very very happy to be proven wrong, though.
Or you can get it with a purchase of the proshot on their website and not have to worry about losing it
Wait I'm unsure if I'm missing something or thinking too into it but is Peter an Ophran cuz Tinky says "Oh boy, A Spankoffski. I'm going to have the whole set in my toy box!" 2:01 Meaning Tinky has his family, meaning they're dead. Sooooo.....umm is this lore.
Well spotted! I don't want to give away any spoilers but if you watch the nightmare times episodes you'll understand why he says that
@@HilaryLudkin-Finniespecifically Nightmare Time Season 1 Episode 2
Spoiler for Nightmare Time "Time Bastard"
Ted Spankoffski is stuck forever in a repeating time loop in Tinkys toy box. Tinky is the one of the LiB who has power of time control and Ted got lost in a temporal anomaly at CCRP technical.
If they had kingdoms to take back, who or what pushed them out?
@@somedudewatchintv5297 ooh interesting maybe they used to rule on earth before humans came along?
The lalallala is rough
Why didn't we get to see that dance move when they sing about the gun? We didn't need the close up in the pro shot of her holding the gun.
I'm trying to learn the choreo for high school is killing me and there's a couple parts where you can't quite see what everyone is doing. Any chance you could post that one?
Really sorry, I don't have that one or I would, hopefully you can find it from somewhere else
You can get the whole thing with all the songs and dances if you purchase the proshot, the whole digital ticket is a bonus feature
wow
if u still have access to the digital ticket and if u still use this account could u post bully the bully??
Sorry I only recorded the two sections that I posted and don't have access anymore, I'm not sure but I think the digital ticket is available for purchase on the website for starkid
Where do you get the digital ticket? this is incredible
It's part of the bonus features when you purchase the show from their store
@@jimmy_the_squid9456oh really?! That’s so cool!
where do u find this proshot?
It was something you had to pay to access but the full official proshoot is on RUclips if you look up nerdy prudes must die on the teamstarkid RUclips channel. This is just a clip because a lot of people preferred the wide shot for this specific scene
Wait digital tickets are a thing o.O
Yeah, usually before the RUclips release while it's performed you can buy it to see the unedited version from an audience view
Yes and it is still available as a bonus feature on the website
This is such great footage! I’m curious could you out up the digital ticket version of Hatchet Town as I’m curious too see it without the cameos and Its the only other number that I believe was change during the pro shot. I understand if you can’t though!
Really sorry but I don't have that one, I only recorded a couple of parts, hopefully someone else has it❤️
Question, this digital versión is the same that pit on youtube but whit bigger imagine and not clear sound ? I think it coult be, but theres some parts that sound a little more differents that the RUclips version like the "his soul i wanna lick it" it sounds actually like the song on the álbum soundtrack
It's just a different performance to the one on RUclips
the digital ticket is a performance you can buy if you can't see the show in person while it's showing, that's usually filmed with one stationary camera. typically, the digital ticket is filmed on the opening weekend, i believe. it's a different performance to the one(s) in the pro-shot.
The digital ticket is the unedited non-proshot version of the show
They basically just recorded the show unedited and let people buy it before the show comes out!
This version of the show matches better to the soundtrack (same hatchet town) because it’s the actual full stage show vs the proshot where it’s more then one show mixed with things filmed not live after the fact. This version is still available through purchasing the proshot. I agree that a lot of things in it do hit differently
Does this mean you also have access to Working Boys??
I wish but I don't unfortunately, I just screen recorded a couple of parts of the digital ticket when I bought it. I thought this part was so good and wanted to see it again while I waited for the RUclips release and someone asked if I had it
I am exactly the 1,000th like
Also I love NPMD sm
how am i this early damn
god bless
Ladies, Gentlemen and the marvellous rainbow of gender in-between, I strongly advise you to download this video on your personnal computer, because halas, it's the fourth of that type put on YT and I guess it will be the fourth to be delete soon.
I made the mistake 3 times, not a fourth time. :)
Or they can buy the digital ticket version with the proshot from starkid and have the entire unedited show? So starkid gets paid for it and knows there is an audience who does still like the live unedited shows?
@@akurokumelodys or it could have been added in the proshot.
If we start on what people can or could habe done, we will be here for years.
Can I ask for the digital version of Hatchet Town? i want to see what it looks like without the cameos
Really sorry, I don't have that one. I only recorded a couple of parts, hopefully someone else uploads it
ah that's alright, thanks anyway@@HilaryLudkin-Finnie
You can get it with the purchase of the proshot from starkid, the entire digital ticket is a bonus feature now
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Do you have Hatchet Town like this?
I don't, sorry
Starkid themselves have mentioned this multiple times-
stop sharing clips of the digital tickets. ESPECIALLY when this one is still available for purchase. You're actively taking money away from these creators who have made musical theatre as a whole more accessible for people all around the world.
They mishot this part in the pro-shot, this clip is just a way to show what happened during this sequence.
@@Awelbeckk whatever opinions you have about the pro shot don’t discount the fact that the publishing of this video goes against Starkid’s explicit wishes. its disrespectful, especially when Starkid has done so much for the theatre community
@@Awelbeckkto go with what they’re saying it’s not even expensive to buy both shows together on the site. They don’t have to do anything they do like giving us digital tickets during the run or after. They could easily stop doing it all together if it gets out of hand
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The official recording is on RUclips now if you want to see it, I only have a couple of clips from the digital ticket
please take this down. You have to pay for the digital ticket and posting stuff like this takes funds away from them
Yeah what he said