Got the tall grey Modem/Router in December. Got as high as 310 download, but I average between 275 and 290 in my third floor apartment in the city. About 21 upload. I'm very happy with it.
My old Cube died on me Monday. Verizon sent me a new one. Customer service said the one they're sending me is better. I did some research from the receipt they sent me, and it's the same as the one in this video. FedEx delivered it today. I'll hook it up when I get home from work. It definitely has more options than my old device.
did you have to adjust any settings ? mine shows up tuesday and i get pretty good signal with my normal 5g on my phone so im expecting this to do just fine but really wanting the 275 average download for games lol im tired of hotspot speeds
I just received and set up the ASK Model. I kept my existing router because it had all my settings and port forwarding set up, so I set it up for PassThrough. The light turns green for PassThrough. I didn’t want to spend any time setting the ASK up. I bought the Plus plan and I get about 300 mbs down and 50 up. Overall, Im pleased, especially with the savings. $45 instead of $99 with my cable company. If you have a security system and central station, you must cut the firewall to minimum or it will not communicate.
I received the new Verizon router about 3 months ago. I ended up opening it up and adding external antennas to the router. I'm not sure if I connected the external antenna to the right ports. I tried them all in different orders until I got the best signal. I was getting 20 to 30 up speed now I get 250 to 300 pretty consistently. I am excited to see what you find out when opening the router up. I did not find a SIM card inside. Also, there are little torx screws on the bottom that you need a long skinny torx screwdriver for. Good luck!
I only have a 2 x 2 antenna and found these ports give me the best signal. It bounces between 1 bar and 2 on the front display. The little torx screws are hard to see. Do not take the Phillips screws out. You will also need 4 little tab holders you need to use to hold them open so you can slide the top up and off
Great to hear! We'd love to see a couple photos or even a short video of how you did it. I know you won't take it apart again just to help us, but if you have any media you could link to, that would be amazing. :)
Hey Nate, After using Wireshark and logging into the Unify UDM SE via ssh and viewing the ports I discover DHCP v6 is broken. I configure the Cr200a gateway for stateless mode for IPV6 and then into passthru mode. I then set the UDM internet port to single network and slack for IPv6. This should work for Ask, ARC ect. Hope this helps those that don't want to double nat ipV4. Other than Verizon enablig DHCP V6 and giving us a /56 "i would not hold my breath" this should work with other devices llike OPsense or other routers that allow these setting. Spent a day figurung this out. Cheers
Please let me know when you do a disassembly and if external antenna can be hooked up to it, right now my speeds are very slow. Thank for the great videos!
Thanks Nater..I live in the Atlanta suburbs and ONLY have ATT 25mbs available where I live.. no cable.. no fiber.. I am weighing which 4/5G services I will get. This video is a great start to my search
@@NaterTater Oh, I have a landline otion. ATT 25mbs for 80 a mont. Too high of a price fopr something that goes out several times a year and has taken up to a week to repair. I went with the Verizon plan. 180mbs with stock router and antennas.. Thanks Nate
I have had the ASK model gateway for about a year now. Sometimes it drops connection or the speeds just drops. Usually it’s the full 300/20. The other day I finally got Verizon to send this newer WNC gateway. Is there any reason to keep the older ASK model over this new one?
@@NaterTater gotcha. Well after the 15 hour tech support nightmare they just put me through over their unreliable service (im in a rural area im less than half mile from tower with clear line of sight, I have 5G UW service on my cell, almost everyone around has Charter Cable Internet or Starlink) i finally got them to cancel my service. I was transferred 38 times over that period. Speeds were great when it worked, but it was extremely unreliable especially given I was the only one on the tower using their home service. They offered this modem over the one i have now which is the smaller cube, but said it would take two weeks to get to me and they weren't willing to expedite OR allow me to go to a Verizon store to swap equipment. I've been a cellular customer for 16 years, but after the hell they put me through we may be looking for a new provider.
I have the bigger device on my left your right. I turned off the WiFi on it and put it in my window used as a modem and then I have a sun visor which reflects and blocks the cell signal from coming in to my room and it reflects to get a bigger signal. I get 300 Mbps down and 20-40 Mbps upload. I also have a load balancer which combines a second WAN. second WAN is Fiber 200/200 Mbps and combined I get 500/240-250 Mbps. I am impressed!
@@NaterTater they told me in the store I could get 600 down easy but I haven't seen that! I don't think they knew what they were talking about, its easy to say something than to prove it. that's why I came here!
Will this be for people who get a top tier plan or depending where you live? I also have the arc version of the modem with the e-sim will it be better to get a signal booster or external antenna for me. I live in rural area and the tower shows that it’s in the next town over from what Verizon app showed and also the website showed.
Hey does your service billing start when you active uour gateway or when you order it? I have other internet paid til the end of the month activating verzion gateway when the current other 1 ends.
I have Verizon gateway business. Would you suggest taking the sim out and placing it in an invisagig? How would I best connect my Verizon gateway to use together with my Starlink as a fail safe?
I would probably use the Verizoj gateway and plug it and the starlink into a router designed for multi-WAN. Here's how I combine 6+ WAN together on a single router: ruclips.net/video/FugYABcOkTE/видео.html
Thanks for this video, I do not have the new gateway, I have the ASK, and I haven't gone into the settings for like a year, the firmware has been updated and this is what it looks/functions like now, minus the extra features of the new gateway. ...I've had the t-mo and Verizon, and was using the t-mo primarily because Verizon didn't have 5G yet here and so I set it up my router in bridge mode with the V unit, long story short, and now that I'm getting consistent results with the Verizon HI I've unplugged the t-mo and want to go all out with the Verizon gateway, I am a little confused best way to set it up with the new firmware so that the router is doing as much work as possible to keep the gateway doing the least it needs to do to keep it running smooth (and cool), I have the wifi turned off, and the radios turned off. Now I have the ip for the router and, as I said, it's in bridge mode, so, I'm trying to think how to best to set it all up, you mentioned the new DMZ settings, and I'm just a bit overloaded after watching the go through of all the settings. (I tried watching the how to set up a router vid, but, since the firmware is nothing like that anymore, I got slightly confused what to do). ...I'm about to rewatch the router vid, but, any tips would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for the update nate! Do you think its worth contacting verizon for an upgrade to the new unit using LTE? My area doesn't have 5G but the verizon rep got me hooked up on the 5G plan.
Hi Nate, I have the NCM1100E Verizon Internet Gateway for Business and it comes with 4 paddle antennas. I can't find anywhere in the documentation that explicitly says that the paddle antennas are for Wifi or for 5G cellular. I want to connect a waveform external antenna for 5G but I don't know if i can connect it directly to those ports or if I need to do that internally.
Hi Nate I read that the default IoT network on some Verizon routers on this SSID have full access to your network. Basically only useful for grouping up your devices in the dashboard, it doesnt acuallly seperate the less secure IoT devices from your primary network. Is this the case with this new router too?
www.verizon.com/support/knowledge-base-303332/ it appears so. I handle my device with my own wifi mesh setup so I don't use Verizon's. However most home routers have the option for "AP isolation" which puts a firewall up between the IoT network and your main network.
@NaterTater it seems like the same thing as the one that you reviewed here, except the ports are all on the back of the unit instead of the bottom which is nice since it's easier to plug into.
@Nater Tater - great info. I just ordered V Home Plus. Yesterday I received the older cube in your vide. I would have thought V would send me the new/latest CR200A gateway you demo'd (better WiFi as I have a big 3600 sq foot/2 story home.) Q: Did you say the new one gateway is limited to 100 down and 10 up - load speeds vs the white cube 300 down and 20 up and above? I know with the Home "Plus" they quoted me and I purchased (more expensive Service w Plus) 300 down loads / 20 up - were quoted min here in Central Texas. Thank you? (Was wondering if they are dumping the older versions now till all old stock is depleted)? "I don't go to Verizon and expect to receive an older phone shipped , when I make a purchase".
All the carriers offer multiple gateways and you often dont get to pick. The plan you are on is what affects your speed, the gray and white gateways can get the same speed.
Does the Guest Network limit the connected users speed? I don't see a QoS setting either, does this mean the guest does not use QoS? Reason I ask is i'm troubleshooting a Packet Loss and Latency issue and wanting to know if the moving the other devices to the guest may help if I move them to the guest.
I haven't seen that but I do use my own tp-link omada setup (ruclips.net/video/34NZwJh4N84/видео.html) and it certainly has those capabilities. Have you confirmed that the packet loss is in your wifi/LAN and not your cellular/ WAN?
@@NaterTater I had them replace the 5G router. I don't know if its my network or the cellular network. They did replace my cube with the newer model even though I do not have the Hi-band. I get 300Mb D own and 40 Up all day long. Even when I'm seeing the Packet Loss and Latency issues when gaming. I know its not my hardwired laptop because it didn't occur when i connected to my phone hot spot and tested. I know I can shut down my wifi network and test the cellular network while gaming. That will be my next test i guess. But, it still could be the cellular network.
I activated in December and they sent me the arc, there was no option for the new grey one even though I activated with the highest tier plan. I was hoping they would change it to the grey one even though at activation it showed the arc. It’s weird that on the website it lists this new grey one as being mmwave capable but the fcc docs and others have reported it doesn’t actually switch over to mmwave. At least the free wifi extender they offered and sent has wifi 6 since it’s the same extender they use for fios.
@@NaterTater can’t find the specific link right now but in the comparisons page on Verizon it specifically said the WNC-CR200A was capable of mmwave. They sent me the ARC but since I’m paying for the higher tier service I ordered their $400 router wifi extender for free at no extra cost that has wifi 6E. Still bummed I didn’t get the grey gateway though as it’s what’s pictured all over their home page.
@@NaterTateryeah their extender honestly sucks as an extender, it takes too long to switch over. Luckily it’s technically just a router so I got around it with IP pass through and using it as the main wifi router.
I guess i found the network mode LTE B1 (FDD 2100MHz now. SO you helped me make faster from say 20 MBPS to 60MBPS down and up now almost balance in a LTE B1 (FDD 2100MHz band. I appreciate you NaterTater!! a lot., I got a lot more on your table!! so Thank you!!! Fresh from the Philippines here.
@@NaterTater yeaaah!! haha. I've done it while inside my room coz mine is the wireless type. Doing it without Antena, in my room, where I usually get 14 to 20 mbps, then made it to 50 mbps after the modification of the MTU. Guess what after I put it in the stronger spot in my house, it gave me to up to, 70+ mbps. Amazing.
I have fiber internet and the Verizon 5G home internet. I get 200/200 Mbps with my fiber and 100/20 Mbps with 5G. The verizon device is in my window. (I combined the too with a load balancer and get 300/220 Mbps with it all combined! Pretty amazing if I say so, I am impressed!
Thanks Nate for all your hard work. I have a camera system that needs a static ip to view away from home. How would I be able to access my cameras when I switch to either of the Verizon cubes? Currently I have DSL and I am going to switch to Verizon. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!
@NaterTater yes. I was asking if you knew the process for enabling the new device. Just call vzw and tell them I have a new device and to enable it, or can you do it yourself?
I just received the new 200a, haven't installed yet, but can you use a Eero 6+ mesh system? Not sure if I need this but I have a large 2 story house (3000 sq ft)?
Does the new Gateway just have better wider coverage? My dad has the older cube one, but he only gets like 30-40 mbps download. I am not sure if that will be the highest based on where his house is (location-wise) no good cell service in general.
Oh boo!!. Are there different cell phone towers.. one used for cell service and one used for their WIFI? I was told that they needed to have new ones for the home internet service. I guess the real question is, if you have bad cell phone service in your area, will that mean you will have bad cell phone service for home internet? @@NaterTater
@@NaterTater Awesome--thank you very much. The service in my TMO home internet gateway has gotten bad. They seemed to have tuned the local network and I get very slow service even with the Waveforms.
@bobpacheco5052 sorry to hear it took a turn for the worse. Could just be tower congestion if lots of others got tmo as well. Verizon is better at not being slowed due to congestion but they do hard throttle the base plan.
I have this gateway from Verizon and am using my own router. Is using ip passthrough my best way of doing this? The gateway seems to lose internet about once a week using ip passthrough and needs rebooted.
Hello Nate, I currently have the VZ Gateway WNC-CR200A. I have my google router plugged in the LAN2 port. I turned on the IP PassThru option and is working well. However, I want to change it back and use the Gateway box as the router and take out the google router. Could you please tell me what steps I need to do? Thanks in advance.
We have the "ASK" model and we troubles connecting to 5g out here sometimes despite getting -92 on 4g. We had a lot better luck with the "ARC" model staying on 5g but haven't tried this new "WNC" model yet. Has anyone else had similar results with the other two or have any better luck with this new one not falling off 5g?
I finally got the new Verizon gateway and it's getting 300mbps down and everything is fine. My question is: Fiber with 1GB-2GB will be available in our area within the next couple of weeks and wondering if I would see that much difference getting the Fiber over the Verizon gateway?
can you do a tutorial on how to make this a modem , I'm getting 50mbps on the actual verizon router. So went to buy a netgear router Nighthawk and i wanna make the verizon one as a modem and hopefully that will help me with the speed. I kinda already set it up but i feel like i did it wrong bc i just connectted it and it gets the same 48mbps
how do I get into the admin GUI, all my browsers give me "we could not verify the certificate: reason = untrusted" i dont get the advanced option to bypass
in your windows settings go to "network & internet > Wi-Fi > *your_t-mobile_wifi" and then change it from a "public network" to a "private network". That should fix that firewall issue.
If you have a grandfather home internet plan don't cancel it because the new plans are hard capped at 100 (5g home) and 300 (home plus) amd you can't get it back
Oh boy. I just called about something and they pretty smooth guy set me up with the new box, haven’t even set it up yet and “saved me a little money.” I didn’t think of the plan being swapped. I’m in Arizona and as I recall I’m on a 2 year not a 10 year lock but I’m sure i’ll find out in time.
I have the white box. I just had Verizon send me a WiFi extender but I was wondering how i can boost the connection to receive better speeds. The fastest it has gone was about 150mbps and that was when I was in the same room with the cube and not in the back room in my house. How can I boost my cube speed? What device will I need if the extender doesn’t help? Would appreciate a response, thank you.
I am located in Las Vegas and I previously had the ASK gateway and was getting 250+ mbps. I cancelled service and then signed up again later and was issued the WNC-200A gateway and my speeds are now about 100-110 mbps even though I'm on the same 5G Home Plus plan that claims speeds up to 300 Mbps. Is there any way to fix this? I was very surprised that the superior gateway gets way slower speeds than the "inferior" ASK gateway.
@@OfficalDirectBasketball depends on your needs. Here's ones I have reviewed. 5G Cellular Router Modem Gateways - Tested and Reviewed: ruclips.net/p/PL8d9FovK2dNS2ihT56gySpU49V4kRHn_U
why are people wanting to add the mimo antaneas when verizon hard caps the boxes? am i missing something here? what if you are getting the 300 down and 20 up from the box itself?
Awe man, I wouldn't mind getting that grey box but we moved locations and according to the Verizon site, our new address doesn't qualify for the 5g wifi. Ironically, I'm still using our 5g wifi router and it gets a better signal than where we were before. I'm wondering how to get my hands on this without having to speak to a rep and they find out we aren't in the previous location and shut down the internet access....lol.
I just tried getting the Grey tower, they told me I only qualify for the white cube and there was no way of getting the grey one. It goes off a system that tells them which one to give to us depending on our location. So maybe telling them a different address might work…
I also couldn’t get the FIOS 5G at my location, I did some research and found a post on Reddit someone used a random address, closest to them that gets this service and it worked. I tried it and worked like a charm 👍🏼. Verizon gave me a choice of in store pick up and delivery. (I picked in store pick up) They even let me choose a delivery address. Hope that helps! 😊
I got a question anywhere I put the box I always get 1 bar for internet do you know the reason why??? I tried to move it to a different window it still does not work.. does the amount people connected mess it up…
lots of factors play into the signal strength. Try placing the unit outside to see if your house construction/siding/windows degrades the signal. Try many different spots and place it where it gets the best signal.
I had the small cube and now the tower one and just recently theyve been jist dropping signal and jave no connection. Idk how to fix this and verizon is not help
Anyone seeing any issues with the distance of their antenna causing signal degradation for the modem itself? I've read that the closer the device (shortest cable) to the antenna, the better. Whats the average fall off of signal after a certain point, does anyone know?
ip passthrough just seems to be non functional. trying to mate up the ASK-NCM1100/Netgear AX3000 router and it's just not working at all. probably going to be required to set it up manually....
so, I'm trying to set up my own router to do the DHCP and I am having Double NAT issue. In this video you skipped the DNS Server settings. But, anyway, so after watching the using your own router with Verizon HI video, which had the old firmware, I turned off the DHCP server by going to network connections/network server/settings/ and IP Address Distribution, changed from DHCP to disable and that isn't enough, I still have double NAT error on my router. I have it set to a static IP and have DMZ set to the router for 4 & 6. What am I missing? The gateway says it's in "Bridge" mode. I did not change the IP Passthrough, it is not turned on, this is the only thing I can think of. (wifi and radios are turned off already in the gateway.) ...wait, do I need to change the wired connection to the router from LAN port 2 on the gateway? I'm going to try that.
OK, lots going on here. First, it sounds like you might have DNS and DHCP/NAT mixed up somewhat. If the V gateway has DHCP enabled then that is a NAT layer. But if you don't have DHCP enabled then your router won't get an IP address and you'll have to assign one. Or you can use thr V gateway ip passthrough. But...what is your objective?
@@NaterTater I’m trying to use the gateway as a modem and use the router as a router, take as much load off the gateway as possible. Also can’t have a guest WiFi network with my router in bridge mode. …so is ip pass through ok now? I don’t want to use that if it’s still having issues, but, if it’s no longer having issues is that the way to go?
…I was really just trying to follow your use your own router video but the firmware is very different now. (The firmware on my ASK gateway is the same as you go through in this video)
@benji888578 i have heard of intermittent issues with IPPT so I havent gone back to it. I prefer DMZ. Turn off dhcp on the v gateway and set its and you routers WAN IP address on the same subnet. Ie 192.168.0.xxx and make your router dhcp address range something different like 192.168.1.xxx
I recently moved and at my old place of living I had got 200-300 down 20-30 up but after moving not even 10 minutes of driving away, my speeds went to 20-30 down and 1-3 up. We called them and they sent us a new box but it’s basically the same, any help?
I bought one from someone for $20 but how do I transfer my service plan onto the new one? I'm not sure if you mentioned it in the video cus I didn't watch the whole thing
Yes factory default on ubiqui Factory default on new Verizon box Note when I plug Verizon into computer directly it works fine, seems conflicting ip issue
Are you plugging into the WAN port on the ubiqui? You can change the ip address of the ubiqui to be different than 192.168.1.1 that the Verizon is. See ruclips.net/video/GKbBI38MML8/видео.html
99% of this is Greek to me, need a trusted person to setup this internet up anymore. Currently on fiber but it’s gotten stupid expensive so we just got one of these but I’m clueless on most all of this setup.
@ashleywynn4923 for the most part getting verizon 5G home is plug n play setup for most users. You'd likely just want to change the wifi name/password to match your current one so all your current devices automatically connect to verizon.
this guy is not sponsored by Verizon nor gets any form of payment from Verizon. In fact this guy pays verizon $140/mo for two 5G home plus plans. If you have a contact to help this guy get paid by Verizon please let him know! 😁😎
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Got the tall grey Modem/Router in December. Got as high as 310 download, but I average between 275 and 290 in my third floor apartment in the city. About 21 upload. I'm very happy with it.
nice speeds!
My old Cube died on me Monday. Verizon sent me a new one. Customer service said the one they're sending me is better. I did some research from the receipt they sent me, and it's the same as the one in this video. FedEx delivered it today. I'll hook it up when I get home from work. It definitely has more options than my old device.
@@tommyjamesandtheshondells4095 how’s the new one?
did you have to adjust any settings ? mine shows up tuesday and i get pretty good signal with my normal 5g on my phone so im expecting this to do just fine but really wanting the 275 average download for games lol im tired of hotspot speeds
Bro i get 16.2?
I just received and set up the ASK Model. I kept my existing router because it had all my settings and port forwarding set up, so I set it up for PassThrough. The light turns green for PassThrough. I didn’t want to spend any time setting the ASK up. I bought the Plus plan and I get about 300 mbs down and 50 up. Overall, Im pleased, especially with the savings. $45 instead of $99 with my cable company. If you have a security system and central station, you must cut the firewall to minimum or it will not communicate.
Sounds like you had a good handle on what to do! Great job.
@@NaterTater please share your ebay source for buying older and faster Verizon 5G home internet lines and gateways?
@@tmdllc no specific source
I received the new Verizon router about 3 months ago. I ended up opening it up and adding external antennas to the router. I'm not sure if I connected the external antenna to the right ports. I tried them all in different orders until I got the best signal. I was getting 20 to 30 up speed now I get 250 to 300 pretty consistently. I am excited to see what you find out when opening the router up. I did not find a SIM card inside. Also, there are little torx screws on the bottom that you need a long skinny torx screwdriver for. Good luck!
Thanks! Appears it must be eSIM then. 😔
Do you mind sharing the order of the connections? I just got mine and want to connect the external antenna.
Could you share the location of those screws? I’ve been so frustrated with trying to get it apart
I only have a 2 x 2 antenna and found these ports give me the best signal. It bounces between 1 bar and 2 on the front display.
The little torx screws are hard to see. Do not take the Phillips screws out. You will also need 4 little tab holders you need to use to hold them open so you can slide the top up and off
Great to hear! We'd love to see a couple photos or even a short video of how you did it. I know you won't take it apart again just to help us, but if you have any media you could link to, that would be amazing. :)
Hey Nate, After using Wireshark and logging into the Unify UDM SE via ssh and viewing the ports I discover DHCP v6 is broken. I configure the Cr200a gateway for stateless mode for IPV6 and then into passthru mode. I then set the UDM internet port to single network and slack for IPv6. This should work for Ask, ARC ect. Hope this helps those that don't want to double nat ipV4. Other than Verizon enablig DHCP V6 and giving us a /56 "i would not hold my breath" this should work with other devices llike OPsense or other routers that allow these setting. Spent a day figurung this out.
Cheers
Thanks!
Please let me know when you do a disassembly and if external antenna can be hooked up to it, right now my speeds are very slow. Thank for the great videos!
Great video! Thanks! Good premiere 🎉
Thanks!
Thank you so much for this tutorial. I have been trying to figure out how to separate 2.4 ghs to get my security cameras to work for 2 days!
Thanks Nater..I live in the Atlanta suburbs and ONLY have ATT 25mbs available where I live.. no cable.. no fiber.. I am weighing which 4/5G services I will get. This video is a great start to my search
Same here. I’ve been using T-Mobile for over a year up in Bartow County. Works great 99% of the time. 200 down, 10 up is typical.
It's a great option for those without hardline ISP availability.
@@hugh2994 Nice:).
@@NaterTater Oh, I have a landline otion. ATT 25mbs for 80 a mont. Too high of a price fopr something that goes out several times a year and has taken up to a week to repair. I went with the Verizon plan. 180mbs with stock router and antennas.. Thanks Nate
I have Cox in Fl, 65 down 8 up. $130 a month, I’ll be switching
What about adding external antennas ?
I have had the ASK model gateway for about a year now. Sometimes it drops connection or the speeds just drops. Usually it’s the full 300/20. The other day I finally got Verizon to send this newer WNC gateway. Is there any reason to keep the older ASK model over this new one?
The ASK cube (not ARC cube) has a physical SIM. Otherwise thr WNC is better.
@@NaterTater but WHY is the WNC better...?
@@BackwoodsTinkerer better modem/internal antennas and wifi
@@NaterTater gotcha. Well after the 15 hour tech support nightmare they just put me through over their unreliable service (im in a rural area im less than half mile from tower with clear line of sight, I have 5G UW service on my cell, almost everyone around has Charter Cable Internet or Starlink) i finally got them to cancel my service. I was transferred 38 times over that period. Speeds were great when it worked, but it was extremely unreliable especially given I was the only one on the tower using their home service. They offered this modem over the one i have now which is the smaller cube, but said it would take two weeks to get to me and they weren't willing to expedite OR allow me to go to a Verizon store to swap equipment. I've been a cellular customer for 16 years, but after the hell they put me through we may be looking for a new provider.
I have the bigger device on my left your right. I turned off the WiFi on it and put it in my window used as a modem and then I have a sun visor which reflects and blocks the cell signal from coming in to my room and it reflects to get a bigger signal. I get 300 Mbps down and 20-40 Mbps upload. I also have a load balancer which combines a second WAN. second WAN is Fiber 200/200 Mbps and combined I get 500/240-250 Mbps. I am impressed!
Very good. Verizon is throttled at 300/20Mbps.
@@NaterTater they told me in the store I could get 600 down easy but I haven't seen that! I don't think they knew what they were talking about, its easy to say something than to prove it. that's why I came here!
Im here because I just ordered. But I subscribed because your username is great 😂 like the sense of humor
@@Emancipatriot 😄
Will this be for people who get a top tier plan or depending where you live?
I also have the arc version of the modem with the e-sim will it be better to get a signal booster or external antenna for me. I live in rural area and the tower shows that it’s in the next town over from what Verizon app showed and also the website showed.
An external antenna will help more than a booster. The gateway selected is a combo of availability and the service you have at the address.
Hey does your service billing start when you active uour gateway or when you order it? I have other internet paid til the end of the month activating verzion gateway when the current other 1 ends.
I think they automatically activate it when its shipping.
Would you have the DMZ and ip pass through both on?
@killswitch2011 both of these verizon gateways have the option of it. You wouldnt/cant have both dmz and ippt active at the same time.
I have Verizon gateway business. Would you suggest taking the sim out and placing it in an invisagig? How would I best connect my Verizon gateway to use together with my Starlink as a fail safe?
I would probably use the Verizoj gateway and plug it and the starlink into a router designed for multi-WAN. Here's how I combine 6+ WAN together on a single router: ruclips.net/video/FugYABcOkTE/видео.html
Is the newer one worth upgrading to?
I dont think they offer that.
Thanks for this video, I do not have the new gateway, I have the ASK, and I haven't gone into the settings for like a year, the firmware has been updated and this is what it looks/functions like now, minus the extra features of the new gateway. ...I've had the t-mo and Verizon, and was using the t-mo primarily because Verizon didn't have 5G yet here and so I set it up my router in bridge mode with the V unit, long story short, and now that I'm getting consistent results with the Verizon HI I've unplugged the t-mo and want to go all out with the Verizon gateway, I am a little confused best way to set it up with the new firmware so that the router is doing as much work as possible to keep the gateway doing the least it needs to do to keep it running smooth (and cool), I have the wifi turned off, and the radios turned off. Now I have the ip for the router and, as I said, it's in bridge mode, so, I'm trying to think how to best to set it all up, you mentioned the new DMZ settings, and I'm just a bit overloaded after watching the go through of all the settings. (I tried watching the how to set up a router vid, but, since the firmware is nothing like that anymore, I got slightly confused what to do). ...I'm about to rewatch the router vid, but, any tips would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for the update nate! Do you think its worth contacting verizon for an upgrade to the new unit using LTE? My area doesn't have 5G but the verizon rep got me hooked up on the 5G plan.
I don't.
Another insightful video Nate! I am hoping you might plan to shoot a video tutorial on how to connect this gateway to MIMO antennas. Thanks anyway!
I plan to!
@@NaterTater have you made the video yet on how to hook up mimo 4x4 antenna to this model?
Hi Nate, I have the NCM1100E Verizon Internet Gateway for Business and it comes with 4 paddle antennas. I can't find anywhere in the documentation that explicitly says that the paddle antennas are for Wifi or for 5G cellular. I want to connect a waveform external antenna for 5G but I don't know if i can connect it directly to those ports or if I need to do that internally.
Hi Nate I read that the default IoT network on some Verizon routers on this SSID have full access to your network. Basically only useful for grouping up your devices in the dashboard, it doesnt acuallly seperate the less secure IoT devices from your primary network. Is this the case with this new router too?
www.verizon.com/support/knowledge-base-303332/ it appears so. I handle my device with my own wifi mesh setup so I don't use Verizon's. However most home routers have the option for "AP isolation" which puts a firewall up between the IoT network and your main network.
When looking at Verizon home internet, it shows in my cart that gateway model ASK-NCM1100 would be shipped, could you do a review on that one?
@@JeshMoer yes that's the brand new one. I don't have my hands on that yet!
@NaterTater well i decided to put an order in for it, so we'll see how it is!
@@JeshMoer great, let me know
@NaterTater it seems like the same thing as the one that you reviewed here, except the ports are all on the back of the unit instead of the bottom which is nice since it's easier to plug into.
Hi Nate, great videos. Can you please post video on opening up WNC-CR200A to install Waveform QuadPro? Thanks!
I need to do that!
Looks like a genuine improvement for advanced users overall. Any VLAN options?
Not fully but there is guest/iot wifi with isolation
@Nater Tater - great info. I just ordered V Home Plus. Yesterday I received the older cube in your vide. I would have thought V would send me the new/latest CR200A gateway you demo'd (better WiFi as I have a big 3600 sq foot/2 story home.) Q: Did you say the new one gateway is limited to 100 down and 10 up - load speeds vs the white cube 300 down and 20 up and above? I know with the Home "Plus" they quoted me and I purchased (more expensive Service w Plus) 300 down loads / 20 up - were quoted min here in Central Texas. Thank you? (Was wondering if they are dumping the older versions now till all old stock is depleted)? "I don't go to Verizon and expect to receive an older phone shipped , when I make a purchase".
All the carriers offer multiple gateways and you often dont get to pick. The plan you are on is what affects your speed, the gray and white gateways can get the same speed.
Where is the Cellular Metrics like T-Mobile has where I can see what tower I’m on or see my SINR, Etc?
Have you done a video after opening the new gateway? Physical SIM in it?
everything has an E sim these days
Not really....TMHI uses a physical SIM
Does the Guest Network limit the connected users speed? I don't see a QoS setting either, does this mean the guest does not use QoS? Reason I ask is i'm troubleshooting a Packet Loss and Latency issue and wanting to know if the moving the other devices to the guest may help if I move them to the guest.
I haven't seen that but I do use my own tp-link omada setup (ruclips.net/video/34NZwJh4N84/видео.html) and it certainly has those capabilities. Have you confirmed that the packet loss is in your wifi/LAN and not your cellular/ WAN?
@@NaterTater I had them replace the 5G router. I don't know if its my network or the cellular network. They did replace my cube with the newer model even though I do not have the Hi-band. I get 300Mb D own and 40 Up all day long. Even when I'm seeing the Packet Loss and Latency issues when gaming. I know its not my hardwired laptop because it didn't occur when i connected to my phone hot spot and tested. I know I can shut down my wifi network and test the cellular network while gaming. That will be my next test i guess. But, it still could be the cellular network.
Good video Nate. Thank you so much appreciate it!
You're welcome!
@@NaterTater looking forward to part two 😁
I activated in December and they sent me the arc, there was no option for the new grey one even though I activated with the highest tier plan. I was hoping they would change it to the grey one even though at activation it showed the arc. It’s weird that on the website it lists this new grey one as being mmwave capable but the fcc docs and others have reported it doesn’t actually switch over to mmwave. At least the free wifi extender they offered and sent has wifi 6 since it’s the same extender they use for fios.
does it say mmwave capable or 5G UWB capable? because they bundled c-band under their 5G UWB marketing now.
@@NaterTater can’t find the specific link right now but in the comparisons page on Verizon it specifically said the WNC-CR200A was capable of mmwave. They sent me the ARC but since I’m paying for the higher tier service I ordered their $400 router wifi extender for free at no extra cost that has wifi 6E. Still bummed I didn’t get the grey gateway though as it’s what’s pictured all over their home page.
@Blu3ManiC it is frusting with all the ISP's how you can't pick your gateway easily
@@NaterTateryeah their extender honestly sucks as an extender, it takes too long to switch over. Luckily it’s technically just a router so I got around it with IP pass through and using it as the main wifi router.
I guess i found the network mode LTE B1 (FDD 2100MHz now. SO you helped me make faster from say 20 MBPS to 60MBPS down and up now almost balance in a LTE B1 (FDD 2100MHz band. I appreciate you NaterTater!! a lot., I got a lot more on your table!! so Thank you!!! Fresh from the Philippines here.
Good to hear!
@@NaterTater yeaaah!! haha. I've done it while inside my room coz mine is the wireless type. Doing it without Antena, in my room, where I usually get 14 to 20 mbps, then made it to 50 mbps after the modification of the MTU. Guess what after I put it in the stronger spot in my house, it gave me to up to, 70+ mbps. Amazing.
I have fiber internet and the Verizon 5G home internet. I get 200/200 Mbps with my fiber and 100/20 Mbps with 5G. The verizon device is in my window. (I combined the too with a load balancer and get 300/220 Mbps with it all combined! Pretty amazing if I say so, I am impressed!
That’s really cool that you’ve got it all running together!
Thanks Nate for all your hard work.
I have a camera system that needs a static ip to view away from home. How would I be able to access my cameras when I switch to either of the Verizon cubes? Currently I have DSL and I am going to switch to Verizon.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!!
@@gonefshn4031 you should be able to use a DDNS service to get a public facing static address.
@@NaterTater Thanks Nate
Great review...anxiously waiting to see if it's esim or physical. Keep us updated. Thanks!
Will do
did you ever check the sim? @@NaterTater
Do you know what the process is to upgrade yourself from old esim gateway to this new one?
Thanks
It's eSIM as well
@NaterTater yes. I was asking if you knew the process for enabling the new device. Just call vzw and tell them I have a new device and to enable it, or can you do it yourself?
@@_willalexander.88 i'm not aware of a process there. They lock down your sim now if its in a new IMEI
Just got it and its working great so far and no issues. Does anyone know if inclement weather will effect signal and connection?
it should not have a noticeable impact
Did you ever figure out whether there is a physical SIM (pSIM) inside the CR200A unit? Otherwise, great presentation!
I will once I tear it apart. Signs point towards eSIM
Do you know if T-Mobile has a new tall one like this for the small business customers (but with a display and of course their software) ….
I'm not aware but I do know they offer more options for the business plan. Often not for free through, monthly fee.
If I'm on band 66 and have just a 2x2 MIMO antenna, what ports do I need to connect to?
I just received the new 200a, haven't installed yet, but can you use a Eero 6+ mesh system? Not sure if I need this but I have a large 2 story house (3000 sq ft)?
you can but 3k sq ft might be ok with just the gateway
It's been a while since I've used PFsense but that interface reminds of it.
ThankYou For This Informative Educate. Sooo, Stay Tuned.
I have the older cube model. How do I get the latest model WNC-CR200A?
you typically cant trade in unless yours is broken.
Does the new Gateway just have better wider coverage? My dad has the older cube one, but he only gets like 30-40 mbps download. I am not sure if that will be the highest based on where his house is (location-wise) no good cell service in general.
Correct the main difference is better wifi but I'm not sure it'll get better cell signal/speed than the cube.
Oh boo!!. Are there different cell phone towers.. one used for cell service and one used for their WIFI? I was told that they needed to have new ones for the home internet service. I guess the real question is, if you have bad cell phone service in your area, will that mean you will have bad cell phone service for home internet? @@NaterTater
Would it be possible to do a video on how to connect the Waveform 4x4 MIMO antennas to the Verizon 5G Home Internet GW.?
Yes, here is the Arc cube: ruclips.net/video/x7TPU6dah7c/видео.html
@@NaterTater Awesome--thank you very much. The service in my TMO home internet gateway has gotten bad. They seemed to have tuned the local network and I get very slow service even with the Waveforms.
@bobpacheco5052 sorry to hear it took a turn for the worse. Could just be tower congestion if lots of others got tmo as well. Verizon is better at not being slowed due to congestion but they do hard throttle the base plan.
@@NaterTater do you know when VZW starts to throttle the base plan.? I need to figure out which plan to buy. Very much appreciated.
@@bobpacheco5052 the current 5G Home plan hard throttles at 100/10 Mbps all the time.
I have this gateway from Verizon and am using my own router. Is using ip passthrough my best way of doing this? The gateway seems to lose internet about once a week using ip passthrough and needs rebooted.
As mentioned, I prefer DMZ over IPPT. I've had too many issues with IPPT on verizon. ruclips.net/video/GKbBI38MML8/видео.html
Hello Nate, I currently have the VZ Gateway WNC-CR200A. I have my google router plugged in the LAN2 port. I turned on the IP PassThru option and is working well. However, I want to change it back and use the Gateway box as the router and take out the google router. Could you please tell me what steps I need to do? Thanks in advance.
The easiest is press and hold the reset button on the VZ gateway.
@@NaterTater That's what I was thinking. Can I then connect to LAN PORT if I want to view the settings.
Thanks again for sharing your vast knowledge.
@williamkluge1149 yes you can
Thanks again!
Is it geofenced? Or can i use it on my boat
@@michaeljones7947 they haven't enforced the location for what I have seen.
We have the "ASK" model and we troubles connecting to 5g out here sometimes despite getting -92 on 4g. We had a lot better luck with the "ARC" model staying on 5g but haven't tried this new "WNC" model yet. Has anyone else had similar results with the other two or have any better luck with this new one not falling off 5g?
I finally got the new Verizon gateway and it's getting 300mbps down and everything is fine.
My question is: Fiber with 1GB-2GB will be available in our area within the next couple of weeks and wondering if I would see that much difference getting the Fiber over the Verizon gateway?
I personally would prefer fiber but truthfully i'd still keep verizon as a backup WAN.
can you do a tutorial on how to make this a modem , I'm getting 50mbps on the actual verizon router. So went to buy a netgear router Nighthawk and i wanna make the verizon one as a modem and hopefully that will help me with the speed. I kinda already set it up but i feel like i did it wrong bc i just connectted it and it gets the same 48mbps
Adding a router will not speed up the WAN, it can only help LAN.
Hello, does this have public ipv4 or ipv6？ Basicaly, im wondering if i could access my NAS from external network. thx
Yes
I'm going to buy this interesting in external atentas for this new box
I plan to add them
how do I get into the admin GUI, all my browsers give me "we could not verify the certificate: reason = untrusted" i dont get the advanced option to bypass
in your windows settings go to "network & internet > Wi-Fi > *your_t-mobile_wifi" and then change it from a "public network" to a "private network". That should fix that firewall issue.
Just set mines up yesterday why did they send they cube,when they have this new one out.
They can send any of them. Is it 4G or a 5G plan?
Will this gateway still receive automatic firmware updates in IP pass through mode ?
Yes
So if I get VZ to send me the newer box any idea if I'll keep my grandfathered faster 300mbps speed.on the value plan?
I wouldnt hold my breath. If you dare make sure you triple confirm it will be grandfathered because that would stink to lose.
@@NaterTater for sure!
If you have a grandfather home internet plan don't cancel it because the new plans are hard capped at 100 (5g home) and 300 (home plus) amd you can't get it back
Oh boy. I just called about something and they pretty smooth guy set me up with the new box, haven’t even set it up yet and “saved me a little money.” I didn’t think of the plan being swapped. I’m in Arizona and as I recall I’m on a 2 year not a 10 year lock but I’m sure i’ll find out in time.
@terraplane7655 same thing happened to me.....
I’ve been lied to 4 times! They told they don’t have 2 different types of devices! I just set up my 2nd “cube” today! So much buffering still!
☹
I have the white box. I just had Verizon send me a WiFi extender but I was wondering how i can boost the connection to receive better speeds. The fastest it has gone was about 150mbps and that was when I was in the same room with the cube and not in the back room in my house. How can I boost my cube speed? What device will I need if the extender doesn’t help? Would appreciate a response, thank you.
@@nicholascurry5085 did you find an answer.? My cube is getting really slow
do they come with an external Antenna jack? No? Ok then
Can you shut off the wifi router and use an existing router and mesh system via eithernet cable so you don't have more interference?
@@thattechguyreview yes
Were you able to confirm this is esim? I imagine everything going forward will be, unfortunately.
yes
I am located in Las Vegas and I previously had the ASK gateway and was getting 250+ mbps. I cancelled service and then signed up again later and was issued the WNC-200A gateway and my speeds are now about 100-110 mbps even though I'm on the same 5G Home Plus plan that claims speeds up to 300 Mbps. Is there any way to fix this? I was very surprised that the superior gateway gets way slower speeds than the "inferior" ASK gateway.
5G Home base plan is now throttled at 100Mbps download.
But I have the Plus plan, not the base plan..
Will my straight talk 5g gateway sim card work for the verizon WNC-CR200A?
No since its eSIM
@NaterTater whats the best 5g gateway i can upgrade to?
@@OfficalDirectBasketball depends on your needs. Here's ones I have reviewed. 5G Cellular Router Modem Gateways - Tested and Reviewed: ruclips.net/p/PL8d9FovK2dNS2ihT56gySpU49V4kRHn_U
Greate review
I only get about 16.2 mbps on download, and also for some reason our router wont get over two bars of signal.
Try locating the gateway in other parts of the house to get better signal and speed.
why are people wanting to add the mimo antaneas when verizon hard caps the boxes? am i missing something here? what if you are getting the 300 down and 20 up from the box itself?
Correct, the antenna would be for those that don't get to the throttle.
Can you change the DNS?
see 16:00 I personally use my own wifi router setup and set a customer DNS on that for my needs.
Can an external router be used?
Yes. same theory as with the other verizon gateway (interface has changed): ruclips.net/video/GKbBI38MML8/видео.html
Awe man, I wouldn't mind getting that grey box but we moved locations and according to the Verizon site, our new address doesn't qualify for the 5g wifi. Ironically, I'm still using our 5g wifi router and it gets a better signal than where we were before. I'm wondering how to get my hands on this without having to speak to a rep and they find out we aren't in the previous location and shut down the internet access....lol.
I just tried getting the Grey tower, they told me I only qualify for the white cube and there was no way of getting the grey one. It goes off a system that tells them which one to give to us depending on our location. So maybe telling them a different address might work…
I also couldn’t get the FIOS 5G at my location, I did some research and found a post on Reddit someone used a random address, closest to them that gets this service and it worked. I tried it and worked like a charm 👍🏼. Verizon gave me a choice of in store pick up and delivery. (I picked in store pick up) They even let me choose a delivery address. Hope that helps! 😊
I just got Verizon box
WiFi works on plus plan 300 speeds
But when I plug in a ubiqui it’s says no ip address ??
Is this a new "factory default" ubiqui? With no settings changed?
A few things in my house says it requires 2 G's in order to hook up to your internet. HOW DO I GET PASS THIS
@@r9674800 this has 2.4ghz wifi. ruclips.net/video/fhm37-1Dieg/видео.html
Can you put a micro SIM card in it?
No
If I buy it unlocked will it work for a tmobile 5G hotspot sim card?
@@hftowers no
how do you port forward for PS5?
See the webui advanced setting i show towards the end of the video
I got a question anywhere I put the box I always get 1 bar for internet do you know the reason why??? I tried to move it to a different window it still does not work.. does the amount people connected mess it up…
lots of factors play into the signal strength. Try placing the unit outside to see if your house construction/siding/windows degrades the signal. Try many different spots and place it where it gets the best signal.
will this be ideal for XBOX gaming?
Not ideal but can work
I had the small cube and now the tower one and just recently theyve been jist dropping signal and jave no connection. Idk how to fix this and verizon is not help
I only get 10mbps upload and the ethernet plugged into my xbox and i still get 80ms latency and lags a lot
that can be a downside of cellular
I just got home 5G small crude a few months ago why they give me an old one.
@@xgamerzweekly2785 luck of the draw
Anyone seeing any issues with the distance of their antenna causing signal degradation for the modem itself? I've read that the closer the device (shortest cable) to the antenna, the better.
Whats the average fall off of signal after a certain point, does anyone know?
Yes, it varies by type of cable and what band (freq) signal. I go through that in this video: ruclips.net/video/Dndcn4a8N2w/видео.html
ip passthrough just seems to be non functional. trying to mate up the ASK-NCM1100/Netgear AX3000 router and it's just not working at all. probably going to be required to set it up manually....
Has anyone been recently experiencing issues with the old gateway version?
My old ARC was super fast at first. Now I get lagging on my TV and computer.
we need the new video on how to disassemble the new router
Yes, I just need the time! It will be coming.
hi !! It worked for me i had mine down to 1420
but still i cant find ways to increase my Upload.
What is your upload?
it only runs from 3 to 4 mbps but if I change the bandwidth to the LTE B40 (TDD 2300MHz) its gonna do it atleast balance in a lower speed.@@NaterTater
wondering what's gonna happen if I change it to mor than 1500
@@NaterTater
@@rexryanmosquera6617 it seems like you are referring to MTU packet size?
yes Sir. And i will calibrate it when I have time. to the higher MTU without a fragmentation of the data. @@NaterTater
When can Verizon customers get this new Gateway box?
Its been available for months but you typically cant request a specific gateway.
@@NaterTaterI just called. They are sending me newest one
There is no Wifi signal bars on mine, but everything works just fine....🤔
The gray tower? Or white cube?
@@NaterTater Gray Tower WNC-CR200A
I just got mine but why they gave us the old ones :/
they still work!
@@NaterTater but the new one is better right?
No it's slower
so, I'm trying to set up my own router to do the DHCP and I am having Double NAT issue. In this video you skipped the DNS Server settings. But, anyway, so after watching the using your own router with Verizon HI video, which had the old firmware, I turned off the DHCP server by going to network connections/network server/settings/ and IP Address Distribution, changed from DHCP to disable and that isn't enough, I still have double NAT error on my router. I have it set to a static IP and have DMZ set to the router for 4 & 6. What am I missing? The gateway says it's in "Bridge" mode. I did not change the IP Passthrough, it is not turned on, this is the only thing I can think of. (wifi and radios are turned off already in the gateway.) ...wait, do I need to change the wired connection to the router from LAN port 2 on the gateway? I'm going to try that.
nope, still have a double NAT error
OK, lots going on here. First, it sounds like you might have DNS and DHCP/NAT mixed up somewhat. If the V gateway has DHCP enabled then that is a NAT layer. But if you don't have DHCP enabled then your router won't get an IP address and you'll have to assign one. Or you can use thr V gateway ip passthrough. But...what is your objective?
@@NaterTater I’m trying to use the gateway as a modem and use the router as a router, take as much load off the gateway as possible. Also can’t have a guest WiFi network with my router in bridge mode. …so is ip pass through ok now? I don’t want to use that if it’s still having issues, but, if it’s no longer having issues is that the way to go?
…I was really just trying to follow your use your own router video but the firmware is very different now. (The firmware on my ASK gateway is the same as you go through in this video)
@benji888578 i have heard of intermittent issues with IPPT so I havent gone back to it. I prefer DMZ. Turn off dhcp on the v gateway and set its and you routers WAN IP address on the same subnet. Ie 192.168.0.xxx and make your router dhcp address range something different like 192.168.1.xxx
I recently moved and at my old place of living I had got 200-300 down 20-30 up but after moving not even 10 minutes of driving away, my speeds went to 20-30 down and 1-3 up. We called them and they sent us a new box but it’s basically the same, any help?
Add an antenna
@@NaterTaterdo you have any reccomendations?
@@pure6666 of course! ruclips.net/video/RFZBbSg_pzE/видео.html
how do I get mines replaced
You can try going to a store
I bought one from someone for $20 but how do I transfer my service plan onto the new one? I'm not sure if you mentioned it in the video cus I didn't watch the whole thing
@itzdcx7991 you can't really unless you somehow convince verizon to swap the IMEI on your plan to the one your bought (unlikely).
@@NaterTater dang
Yes factory default on ubiqui
Factory default on new Verizon box
Note when I plug Verizon into computer directly it works fine, seems conflicting ip issue
Are you plugging into the WAN port on the ubiqui? You can change the ip address of the ubiqui to be different than 192.168.1.1 that the Verizon is. See ruclips.net/video/GKbBI38MML8/видео.html
Very cool
99% of this is Greek to me, need a trusted person to setup this internet up anymore. Currently on fiber but it’s gotten stupid expensive so we just got one of these but I’m clueless on most all of this setup.
@ashleywynn4923 for the most part getting verizon 5G home is plug n play setup for most users. You'd likely just want to change the wifi name/password to match your current one so all your current devices automatically connect to verizon.
Ugh. This scared me awake
Forgot I left this tab open, so it started playing on it's own 😁
@evilvet 😂 nothing scarier than thinking Nater Tater is in your home in the morning!
The ghz settings aren’t automatic? Eww
@@GamesforYouandBoo what do you mean?
Is this guy sponsered by Verizon? Or is it a genuine review
this guy is not sponsored by Verizon nor gets any form of payment from Verizon. In fact this guy pays verizon $140/mo for two 5G home plus plans. If you have a contact to help this guy get paid by Verizon please let him know! 😁😎
How do I get Verizon to send me the new gray cube?
Your best bet is to go into a corporate store and see if they have one in stock.
Awesome thank you!
with the thumbs up it looks like you are saying the older one is the new one. Dude. Seriously.
🤷♂️